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W four WN Radio. Are youready to take a journey. Let's connect
with the healers of the world.It's that time. It's time for the
Language of Healing on W four WNRadio and Talk for TV. Now,
here's your host, doctor Nicole Forton. Well, it's actually not doctor Nicole
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Forton, as you cannot tell,but this is the co host, the
pipe man, and I think theCole Forton is coming right now. She
was like seconds off, I justtold them I'm not you okay, So
now you can take over. Canyou hear us, doctor Nicole? Uh
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oh, she can't hear us,rebel. Can you help her through that?
See? Doctor Nicole Forton is currentlyat a very cool conference. Oh
sure, she interrupts me to speak. I'm told to speak, she just
interrupts me. I was just tellingthem, you're doing this great conference,
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and we couldn't hear you because youknow, you had your mic muted because
of the conference, so they couldn'thear you, or something like that.
And I also told him in thebeginning's show when it says, and here's
your host, doctor Nicole Fort,and I said, and this is not
doctor Nicole Fort, as if youcan't tell, this is the co host
pipe man. And then and thenyou kind of arrived, you know,
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like, I think you did iton purpose. I think you wanted to
see what would happen if I wasleft to my own devices. Well,
I mean, I think you knowquite well what you're doing. I'm thankful
to have you here. It wasa happy surprise, I guess, you
know what. Honestly, I thoughtlike I got my timing all wrong.
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I'm in another universe here. Youknow, when you're in a conference or
workshop or you know, like timeis just different. You're in a learning
realm and it depends on who youare. Okay, speaking of the still
thing, there's those of us thatare very good at being still, so
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yes, they lose themselves in thetime. And then there's other people that
are sitting still at a conference,looking at your watch every ten seconds to
see if that session's over yet sothey can go out and do whatever they're
going to do. Right, Yes, Well, I'm a little bit of
both people. I was looking andthen suddenly I'm here. But I'm here,
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how are you well? I alwaysfind interesting, or did find interesting
when I was part of that group. I don't not part of the group
anymore, so I can't do speakon it. But every health and wellness
event I ever did, there weremore people outside smoking than any other event
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I ever did, and it alwaysneeds to blow my mind. I'm like,
here, we are a health andwellness conference, and people are sneaking
outside to have a cigarette, includingme. Right, you know smoking can
be good for your brain. Ithink it helps it, Like I mean,
I don't know. There's the prosand cons of everything there, but
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it is an interesting not saying thatjust because you're in health and wellness that
you're a perfect individual either. Youknow. That's what blows my mind too.
How many Yeah, that's what blowsmy mind. Too. How made
doctors and nurses smoke knowing how itis and then they lecture you and then
they go outside and have a cigarette. Oh yeah. Working in the hospitals
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in China, okay, you getlike it was every twenty forty minutes,
the doctor's like, Kate, gottago. He like takes his jacket off
and just gets out. I don'teven know if they go outside. They
just step outside of the room andthen they're back. But they're smoking everywhere
in China. So well, ifyou're like in the middle of a procedure,
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they just stop to have a cigarette, no, mate, till the
procedure's over. That's a good question. I don't actually know about the surgeons.
I imagine they're not doing that.But there's the perk of being a
surgeon. Okay, you work aregular job, you're lucky if you get
two breaks a day where you canhave a cigarette. But if you're a
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surgeon, you're just like they nurse, just clip clamp this here, keep
it clamped. I'll be right back, yeah, or they get the clamps
to like you know, the nursesnow the designated you know, distributor of
the puffs. Well, yeah,while they're clamping. The nurse is like
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giving them the cigarette the puff phoneon they're clamping. Yeah, exactly,
you don't need for that, rightas a doctor ever dropped a cigarette butt
inside and then so the person backup, because there's things like that have
happened, Actually not cigarette butts,but there's been stuff that's been like they
seal the body back up and there'ssomething in there, whether it be yeah,
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a bug or you know, aforcep FORCEP instrument. Yeah, yeah,
I've actually seen chip. If you'rethat type of person that thinks that's
what they do, like well,while you're posting on your h chipped phone
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that they need to put chip inyou, but they don't because you're chipping
yourself. But so let's talk aboutwhat's really going on today. What is
this still point thing? Okay,so this's a few there's a few reasons
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or what still point means to me? We're just talking. Like I said,
I'm kind of on my early lunchbreak from a course that I'm taking,
so and it's around work that's calledcraniosacral manipulation. So it's like we're
feeling the movement of the bone structure. So there it's like it is a
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term, a technical term. Whatare you doing while you were saying that?
Okay, yeah, so we're feelingfor like what they call the flexion
and extension of it's the movement ofthe bones, the motility and stillness still
point is is one of those movementsas well. So it's just but you
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know, really, I was feelinga bit tired this week and I've been
doing a lot of movement. There'sbeen a lot of action. It's like
there's a lot of expansion, eventhe springtime, the longer daylight. We're
stretching into summer, and I feltjust a little tired, like I wanted
a bit of a pause, likea little break, but not to just
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stop everything, just like a youknow, there's the I think naturally with
Can you show that description to usagain please? Yeah, this is like
a deflating like spand and contract.It's a natural movement of life. So
stillness or the pause, I think, is like a valuable piece of the
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puzzle. What does stillness mean toyou? You know it's by you and
that we're having this now because somebodyasked me something yesterday. Just yes,
there's so ironic, you know,they're a heel or they're a sound healer,
and you know, asking about certainthings, it was that, you
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know, that typical answer of somebodythat is a healer sometimes where it was
like what was the question? Ithink of? The question was like what
do you do to relax? Andmy answer to that was wouldn't the first
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question be do you need to relax? See? And my point there is
is I think different things are beneficialfor different people for different reasons. So
you know, for some people.As an example, one of my things
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I said back was, for instance, I do yoga because I know it's
good for me and it's good exercise. Do I do yoga to relax like
most people think it's relaxing. Idon't think yoga's relaxing to me at all
in the least bit. The wholetime I'm doing it, I'm watching my
watch, I'm hoping that the hour'sover or whatever. The whole time I'm
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doing it, I'm feeling like,you know, bored, And the whole
time i'm doing it also is andhere's a perfect example of then your mind
really starts raying wild. So merelaxing would be keeping my mind busy,
not still because when my mind isstill, that's not relaxing at all,
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because some of the things you thinkabout are what stress you out. So
like if I'm stressed out and Ineed a pause a still. To me,
a still or a pause is tobury myself into something so that my
focus is thoroughly on that that Idon't I don't think about the other things
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that need me to relax. Youknow, if that makes sense to you.
It's funny you're making expressions about theyoga, and I mean that's probably
surprising to a lot of people,but I think different people are different ways.
Now do I still do it soI still believe in it, Yes,
but not for the same reasons,not for relax Even meditation for me
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is not relaxing. Now let merephrase that. There are times that is
depending on what it is. Likeif I get pissed off at somebody,
I will walk away and I willdo my own form of meditation to relax,
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and that kind of relaxing, liketo come off the heated moment.
That does work for me. Butif you ask me to sit in a
room for an hour and just meditate, you might need a straight jacket for
me because it would It would driveme nuts, you know, and it
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would be like the longest hour ever. Does that mean I don't believe in
meditation? I absolutely, one hundredpercent do believe in meditation. And here
brings me to another point. So, you know, the younger generation nowadays,
like when I was younger, ifyou need to relax, somebody would
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tell you to relax, but thenthey would give you things to do to
relax. But it's like just relax. You tell the younger generation that and
they lose their marbles. Man,you can't just relax, Okay. So
somebody very near and dear to methat was studying for yoga instruction and to
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be a certified yoga instructor said thatexact comment to me, And my exact
answer was, isn't that the wholepoint of all the meditation and yoga that
you're training for? Isn't that?So you have coping skills to relax?
And I think the younger generation doesn'tthink that way, whereas I do think
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that way. I think there arethings to do to relax, and one
of the things to do relax isto do a pause. Yeah, that's
correct, because while see in myI wouldn't say by definition that meditation equals
relaxation. I wouldn't say that's thepurpose of it. In my not the
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purpose, but it is one reasonlike a like a maybe, yeah,
it's maybe what people like think aboutwhat you know, it does have a
benefit of it. But I believethat the purpose of that or taking the
pause or like you say, youactually prefer to focus on something else it's
about is a form of a pause. It's about Yeah, it's about taking
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your attention off of something that maybeyou were like fixated on or really focused
on and giving it. It's likewhen an athlete trains for a marathon,
they're not just running, they're crosstraining, like they're training and you know,
cycling or waits or swimming or something, because you have to give your
body a bit of a like Idon't know, diversity or you have to
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see well that's why to challenge itin other ways, Well, see,
that's why I mean a pause tome, like people are thinking of pause
means they have to stop everything they'redoing and just sit there or whatever.
A pause to me is a breakin the routine. That pause doesn't have
to mean meditation or doing nothing orseeing so and That's why I brought it
up, because other people would belike me and listen to this, yeah,
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and the first thing they would thinkof pause, I don't have time
to pause or you know, Ican't pause or drive me nuts. And
that's why I brought that up,because that's not what pause means, at
least I don't think so. Pausemeans a break in a routine or a
break in what's going on to takea pause to, you know, like
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not get stressed out, or notmake mistakes or not do certain things,
and even then making a decision,sometimes you just gotta sit back and pause
before making that decision, you know, and work your mind off of it
for a bit and come back toit with like a fresh perspective. Correct,
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That's what I mean by that.It's like sometimes that's what's needed,
or removing yourself from a situation,okay, And some people can't handle it,
like me. As an example,yesterday, I had a scenario where
I had to walk away from asituation. And my walking away from that
situation is my idea of pause,okay, because being in the situation is
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only getting your heart rate going faster, stressing you out more, getting you
angry or getting you depressed or whateverit does to you. That removing your
self from the situation, which isa pause, allows you to chill out
and come back. I even saywith you know, social media, okay,
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I or any type of communication bysay social media, because people are
so reactive in social media that ifsomebody says something, they just immediately respond.
When it comes to emails, textmessages, social media postings. I
never immediately respond to those situations.I will sit back, take a pause,
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wait a while, wait till myemotion are not part of it,
and then come back to it,you know, And and then you can
respond in a less reactionary way anda more of a proactive way of expressing
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yourself opposed to expressing yourself based onreacting to somebody else mm hmmm, or
like yeah, I love that becausethat's like the real power of a pause,
you know, or that embracing abit of a because I think another
word for pause or still this islike it's it's transition. It's it's from
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one phase to the next. It'slike inhale exhale, there's you know,
it's we're always in flux, constantlyfluctuating. So these pauses are like little
mini transitions or allow us. Andthen when we're when we encounter a situation
that creates like triggers us, thatis a moment where we can step back
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and either react maybe from the past, like that's coming from our past conditioning
or a behavior or some kind ofbelief structure, you know that creates this
reaction in us, and the pauseallows maybe potentially for a space to choose
a different way, and I thinkthat's what guides us or another yeah,
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solution, because we won't take thatpause. You only see one solution when
you take the pause, then there'smultiple options of a solution. Yeah,
And we can be so ingrained,you know, when it comes to the
our neural pathways, our behaviors,and our actions, they're such deeply entrenched,
you know they can because we doit over and over and over again.
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It can be hard to get outof that like a rut, like
literally if we're always taking the samechannel, and that's you know, it
takes time to forge a new pathway. So I don't know, I know
we might counter situations like that andbe around people that are in it too
well, even in business and sales, Okay, like for people that like,
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I'm a business person, so Idon't believe in all this stuff.
Well, that's a bunch of whoybecause perfect example, salespeople, there's two
things that salespeople are trained about thatdirectly have to do with the pause.
One thing salespeople are trained about isthat there's no such thing as the be
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back bus, you know, thepeople that say I'll be back or call
me back or any of those things, because what that person is doing is
creating a pause, not for necessarilypositive purposes, but instead of saying no
or yes or something that gives thesalesperson a tool, they're putting a pause
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on it so that they don't haveto do it, okay, and they
don't have to say no to salespersonthe other side, say that again,
like being stuck in the pause,you know, like never really moving.
Yeah. And then the other thingis is we teach as salespeople, teach
salespeople the pregnant pause, which isbasically like if you close a deal,
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you know, they're taught the firstperson that speak loses. So the salesperson
takes a pause and doesn't say anything, and there's a lot of power in
that pause. The pregnant pause isvery powerful, especially if you're just communicating
with people, and when people likeyou ever notice you're communicating with people,
and there'll be a pause before theysay, that's the pregnant pause, and
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that pregnant pause actually, you know, in some ways makes people then comfortable.
In other ways, it causes themto say or do things that maybe
they wouldn't have done if there wasno pause, good or bad? Yeah?
Absolutely? Can I drink on theshow? Is that okay? Yeah?
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Of course, help yourself. Youwant some snacks? I mean it's
lunchtime here. I would like somesnacks. But do you like how I
matched my shirt to the background.Yeah, it's a great color. Yeah,
it just like like on the mountain. Yeah, you are the mountain.
You I am mountain, right,Rebel? I am the mountain right.
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Oh my goodness, hey, Rebel, I never got to say hello
to you before he welcome. Whatdo you? What do you pause about?
Rebel? The things do you do? I knew she was gonna say
that. I was going to saybefore she answered, I was gonna say
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anytime ask her to do a test, she pauses and doesn't react, so
that you know, you know,right, right, rebel, I take
a moment to process exactly what you'reasking for in a time limit that you're
asking it to be done, tosee if I'm capable or wanting to do
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it. Yeah. So for rebel, her pauses are always to think of
a way that she's not capable todo it, that is, not to
get out of it. Like Ireally like that, rebel. Most of
the time, it's a yes anyway, but I like to make sure that
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it's available for space on the plate, you know. Yeah, it's a
really wise and honest like response tothat, because you know, some people
can ask you things and you mightsay yes immediately without really considering it,
and then that's how you get moreon your plate, or that's how you
maybe you sign up for something that'soutside of your wheelhouse, or you can
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ask for help or yeah, Ireally, oh yes, that's it.
Used to be yes all the time, no matter what, even you know,
even if I was uncomfortable doing it. I used to do it.
But then as I learned, Igrew a little bit. I didn't grow
up, never will, but Igrew a little bit and understood that it's
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okay to say no, you knowwhat I want you to save all that
too for tomorrow for the adventures ofpipe Man. During the segment that we
talk about relationships all right, becauseyou know you might you might have to
implement that with some of the youknow, the people around you. I
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won't mention who. Yeah, well, I mean that's a good point too.
Maybe you could talk a little ifyou have some ideas around the power
of the pause and in relationships,you know, here's a proble a moment.
Yeah, here's a perfect thing.In relationships and not necessarily romantic,
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any type of relationship, the pauseallows you to learn somebody because when you're
like getting to know people, sometimesyou're so people are so busy talking that
they're not listening. So they wantthe person to know everything they're all about
and know how to be with them, but maybe they're not listening how to
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be with the other person, Andso that pause gives a chance to actually
hear what the other person is expressing, saying, and even if they're not
saying it. Like how many timesin relationships do people say they said something
and the other person says, no, you didn't, Because sometimes the person
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may have said something and the otherperson wasn't paying attention, or the other
person was too busy speaking to hearit, or sometimes because you don't have
that pause, you don't really understandwhat somebody is saying saying again, going
back to that reactionary thing, ifsomebody in a relationship says something to you,
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I think the pause is very necessarybefore you respond, because how many
times do we respond to the wrongstatement. But yeah, pause allows you
to get info. Go ahead,Rebel then goes back to somebody can say
something, but how you interpret whatthey say? If you don't, well,
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that's why I say it. Pausedoesn't say it. No, But
if you if the person says somethingand someone pauses, they should turn around
and say, did you understand whatI said? Sometimes no, maybe they're
just pausing to process it, andmaybe instead of assuming what you said,
understand what they said. I dothat all the time because there's a lot
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of times theirs first reaction when somebodysays something is usually the wrong reaction because
it's based on what you were interpretingthem to say. So if you take
a pause, you might not interpretit from your point of view. You
might interpret it from their point ofview and get exactly the message they were
trying to give you. Yeah,maybe there's extra information there too that needs
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a little time to percolate out.And I like that rebel when you yeah,
did you understand what I mean bythat? Or what I meant by
that? Or what do you thinkI meant by that? Well, it
is true a lot of times peoplewill say something, and especially Southern people
will say something and someone might notunderstand what we're trying to get across.
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Okay, so now you put thespecific of Southern people that maybe Southern people
should speak English better. I'm justspeaking, but other people don't always understand
what we're saying or exactly, whichmeans you're not speaking the same language as
all those other people. No,we all name English. It's just a
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matter of intention. Actually, Ihave to disagree with that. I have
a disagree with that because listen,I could have a conversation with Nicole who's
from Canada and speaks English, andshe may not understand certain things, or
I may not understand certain things thatI'm glad you brought that up, because
that's a very important topic. Withere's a pause to understand people, because
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no, not all English is thesame language. Not everything you know just
like, as an example, smallexample, you guys in the South say
bless your heart. People in theNorth don't say that, So we have
our own assumption of what you meanwhen you say that, and you have
your own exactly exactly. It isan insult, so that's what I'm talking
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about, but that's not what itmeans in the English language. You guys
put your own meaning to it.Well, if you look saying bless your
heart is better than saying God,I'd like to bitch slap you right now
and see, but that's your opinion. In my opinion, no, it'd
be better off if you just saidwhat you meant so that people could work
things out. Because when you tellpeople stuff like that, they think that
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they're doing the right thing and theythink that they should keep doing that thing
that's making you not comfortable. Okay, if you want to have comfortable relationships,
I think that the communication is keyand proper communication. So if you're
saying bless your as an example,since you use and we use that example,
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if you say bless your heart tosomebody that doesn't know what you guys
are meaning, which there's a lotof people that don't. Okay, they're
gonna think, Oh, what asweet person. This person cares so much
about me. So whatever they didto cause you to say, bless your
heart, they're going to keep doingbecause they think it works. It's kind
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of like, and I hate tobring it up in this show, so
I'm not bringing it up in abad way. The idea of a fake
orgasm, Like that's the dumbest thingever invented, because all you're doing is
causing somebody to keep doing the samething that doesn't work. Okay, Yeah,
so there needs to be a pause. There needs to be a pause
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for people to understand what you're reallysaying. And so in the same token,
if somebody wants to say because they'rea Yankee and they just want to
say straight out f you want,I want to you know, punch you
in the face. At least youknow what they feel and maybe you can
have an open discussion to find outwhy why both of you are feeling that
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way and rectify it. You can'trectify it by sugarcoating it. Yeah,
it gets more to the core,to the heart of it. I think
a pause does reflect like allow spacefor that to get a bit closer or
more curious. But I mean,hm, it's hard. So it can
be hard sometimes to put like allof that into wards and you need the
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space. Well that's what you need, and you need the pause talking about
the reaction and what she said,like the pause was so you don't bitch
slap them in the face. Isbasically you find another solution, right exactly.
Yeah, or maybe that is thesolution. I don't know. I
mean there's like different scenarios. Maybebless your heart is the pause. Yeah,
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maybe hate Yeah, that's right,and gives the Yankee enough time to
tell them what they really think.I don't remember any Yankees running from southerns
just saying oh yeah, that's foranother time in another place. Okay,
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you beautiful people in Canada, youthink we're the United States of America.
Here you have proof right right here. And now we speak different languages.
Yes, well we speak different languages. We have different upbringings. I mean,
in all reality, Okay, Isay it all the time. When
somebody says, oh they're uneducated orthey're ignorant because somebody thinks differently, I
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always say, maybe they just werebrought up in different places. You had
different upbringing in you had different friendsthan you had different experiences than you You
could give a whole laundry list,okay. And so in rebels case,
she has the lifelong experience of beinga Southerner. So those things that are
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normal to Southerners and normal communication,that that's what you're brought up with.
Me as a Yankee, I maylook at some of that stuff as being
ridiculous or not agree with that.That doesn't mean I'm right and they're wrong.
It means we had different influences inour life and different things are going
on, and I think both areright. There is no wrong, you
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know, if you're not purposely tryingto hurt people, there is no wrong,
which is why you need a pause. So people of different backgrounds,
different influences, different environmental factors cancommunicate and understand each other because if there's
no pause and they communicate in theirown way, I think that's what causes
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a division. I think maybe,you know, since we were talking about
the United States of America, maybeif the whole country just took a pause,
maybe they might see some other thingsthat are going on opposed to what
they think is going on. AndI don't mean that conspiracy wise. I
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mean the fact of you know,maybe you would understand what the other side
thinks a certain way, or whythey do certain things, or maybe you
would just understand that maybe we shouldn'thave two sides, and maybe they're all
on the same team, mean thepoliticians, and it ain't ours, and
maybe we should combine forces together andbecome a united front. And I think
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that only happens from a pause.And sometimes a pause is as example,
a civil war. I think acivil war in this country was a pause.
There's people nowadays that are calling foranother civil war? Why are they
calling for that? My best browof life, who passed away in September,
he used to say, and hewas definitely very much a liberal,
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and he used to say in thevery end, he was like, screw
it, just you know, destroyedthe whole place and start over. And
what he really meant by that therewas a metaphor he actually believed there should
be a civil war because we're sodivided and so broken in so many ways
right now that maybe that's the pausewe need. But we didn't learn from
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other ones. The only time everybodyever bands together is a tragedy like nine
to less or a common enemy.They did not care what was somebody.
You don't care what you were.If you were trying to get out of
there, somebody was gonna give youa help in hand. And everybody seemed
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to care at that point. Butthe rest of the time we never learn
if there's no tragedy that everybody cangroup together to the one, cause we
all still go back to the differenttragedy doesn't work either. Because we had
nine to eleven and it lasted afew months until weeks went back to normal,
That's what I'm saying. It waslike also COVID it was like that
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too, like the lockdown stuff.Oh yeah, two weeks everyone was like,
yeah, helping hands and then theywere all like avoiding each other and
it's going on that, you know, it's so funny. I was watching
at Tony Robbins video this morning.I was absolutely in shock because I am
absolutely in shock and a lot ofpeople that were my mentors all my life
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that they had such a I didn'trealize they had such extreme values because we
didn't really show it, and nowpeople are showing it. But his guest
said something about Tony was talking aboutsome saying and goes, you know who
said that? And I forget whatthe exact sentence was. They said Hitler,
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and oh, look she's a ghostnow, rebel. She took a
pause from the show. We wereannoying her, and she took a pause
from that. I've got a specialsurprise for us who We'll hold one second
for that out outfit, I said, and then we'll introduce the special surprise.
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And there she is. But yeah, I was so shocked. I
was so shocked because I was watchingthis thing and his guest said something when
he said Hitler, and then hisguest was like, you mean like doctor
Fauci, So they compared doctor Faucito Hitler, and whether true not true.
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I mean, that stuff is gettingridiculous, and that's why we're divided,
and that's why we need a pause, because we don't need to keep
camering on stuff and nobody really knowsand stuff like and then Tony Robbin's surprising
to me, like, oh,I agree with you one hundred percent,
brother. I've never heard him getpolitical Tony Robbins in forty years of listening
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to him. So we've become toa point now that even the solid citizens
that are preaching, you know,good things, are now preaching bad things
because we're so this is why weneed to pause so that everybody can regroup
and go back to be in humanbeings instead of a political party, because
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every everybody's a political party now,They're not a human being, They're not
anything else. It's and it's notthe United just the United States, It's
everywhere you guys have in Canada.It's happening in Europe and Australia. When
I was in Bali, I wastalking to Australians and they're like, yeah,
we're following your lead. Now thewhole world is following this lead of
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division, hating each other, youknow, being nasty each other. I
had somebody comment on one of myinterviews with a legendary drummer that was so
nasty that I respond back, I'mlike, I don't get the hate.
What's the what's with the hate?Like, so what you know, if
you don't agree with something, Ihave to hate on somebody. That's why
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we need a big pause in thewhole world. We need a big pause
so we can all get some sanityback, because I think we've gone a
little nutso and this is way beyondwhat we were talking out before, meaning
if we had a little bit ofa pause. Maybe we could all the
whole world, you could unite andwe could have things like dare I say
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it, global peace or something likethat. You know, maybe if we
sat down with each other and hadconversations. That's what I learned in Denmark.
I went to Denmark, went andthere were eight of us in a
room, all different religions, alldifferent political beliefs, all different countries.
And the one thing that was wonderfulabout it is nobody argued, nobody attacked.
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We all just had different opinions thathad a conversation learn from each other.
That's a pause. And now youcan introduce our guests. Now that
I got up my soapbox. Well, hi, I'm Melanie. Hi,
Hi. I agree with you.We need to start talking at a grassroots
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level to our neighbors, like andnot like, and have the pause of
political whatever, but actually talk tothem as humans one on one, because
you know what, we break downall those barriers and we actually talk to
them as human to human with thatcompassion and you know, unconditional love for
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humans as opposed to and the keyboardwarriors and all of that. So let's
yeah, we need to do thatmore. Yeah, and you weren't here
before. But basically this related tothe fact of, like, even if
you get an argument with your friend, family member, or whatever, sometimes
you just need a pause. AndI was saying about experience I had yesterday
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where I walked away, and thatwalking away wasn't leaving, it was taking
a pause, removing myself from thesituation clear in my head, so I
can go back and thinks freshly.Because when you're not in that pause,
you say and do things that arereactionary, you know, opposed to maybe
even what you really believe or evenwhat you you know. Sometimes in those
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situations, I find even myself doingthings that are uncharacteristic to me, which
is why you need a pause.So you could just go back to being
you, yeah, and take afew breaths. And we're not in that
I mean, we live in sympatheticright, we don't live in our parasympathetic
and especially in the global situation thatwe're in right now, I'm talking globally,
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like you just work that. Yeah, that pause is so important to
not do a fight flight right orfreeze, like just to like gather your
senses and like chill. And Idon't know if you guys talked about cancel,
but like, you don't have tolike write off all your friends because
you disagree on something. H like, no, we did not talk about
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that, and that one bothers melike too, well, how about this?
Okay. I don't know if youfemales experience it, but me as
a male going on online dating sites, it is it actually makes me like
so turned off that almost every womanthe first line of their profile is their
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political belief Like if you're a Trumper, swipe left, if you're if you're
a brandon guy, swipe left,And like, why should that be the
first thing in your profile? Like, especially I grew up in time you
don't talk politics or religion, Andyes, in relationship it would be important
to be on the same page.I don't think that page needs to be
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the cover of the book, okay, And that that's the point, that's
what and that's all they make.That's the important thing. Maybe find out
why somebody is. That's something Ialways say, find out why they are
because there's multiple reasons. As anexample, one of my brothers voted for
Trump both times, not because helikes Trump, not because he dislikes anybody
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else, but because he's in thefinancial business, and if Biden became president,
they were they said they were goingto enact a certain law that would
affect his business he's been in forforty years, where his income would drop
in half immediately. So somebody likethat, of course, is going to
vote for the opposing party, notfor any other reason. But the livelihood
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of themselves and their family, youknow, doesn't mean they believe in those
things. And I think that's whatwe need to find out. It's not
important either finding out the surface stuff, find out why somebody believes what they
believe. No matter what it is. It doesn't have to do with politics.
I can have to do with anything, because everybody has, as I
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said before, different upbringings, differentgeographical locations, different influences and friends,
family, environmental factors that form theirbeliefs that maybe are not necessarily what you
think. We've made it so black. No matter what you believe in,
it has to be extreme this wayor extreme that way. It doesn't matter
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what it is. It's like ifsomebody said in social media, the whole
social media argument, this is anorange, Well, actually it's not an
orange. It's this and blah,blah. That's where we need to pause.
That we need to pause to understandeach other and understand why we're saying
the things we do, believe thethings we do, and maybe we'll get
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a different perspective. I've even hadthe luck of, and I'll say luck,
I'm a Jew, had the luckof having a conversation with neo Nazi
and finding out why he hated meso much without knowing me. And that
was very educational because what I foundout is it was just his upbringing where
he was. The people who surroundedwith that fed him with a whole bunch
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of stuff that he never experienced aJew in his life, so he had
nothing that could say, no,that's not true. And then when and
this sounds, but it is true, when he noticed I didn't have horns
coming out of my head, itmade him question and like, because that
is one of the things that neoNazis are taught, stuff like that because
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they're secluded in their own little areas. Sometimes that it's very believable, you
know, you know, just likeyou say things about people from other countries.
I've had that experience as an American. When I started to travel,
I was like, what was everybodytalking about. I'm not experiencing what they
said, and a lot of whatwas said is like, who, don't
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go anywhere out there in the world. It's dangerous. Nobody's like the United
States and America and blah blah blahblah blah blah blah. And you know,
great country, but so is Canada, so is every country in Europe,
you know, in their own way, and we just need to learn
about each other and take a pause. Yeah, you want to add,
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well, we had the same thingwhen we went to China. Yeah,
we were just talking about talking aboutthis and how still to this day people
are absolutely scared to go to China, all of it. And it's because
no one does. And when theygo, they're blown away at how awesome
and like humans, the essential,the essence of humans, we're all the
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same. We actually all want exactlythe same thing globally, but unfortunately we
get politics and religion in there,and it just tears those beautiful human walls.
Like I guess it creates human wallsinstead of like it's like the masks.
That's like the Wizard of Oz,like the yeah, granted, the
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motive, you know, like it'slike, yeah, I was just going
to say, you were talking,and it's like everybody has to find out
what someone's motivation is or what theirmotive is where they're coming from, like
what is it that they want?And maybe moving forward, it's like,
oh, yeah, we actually havea lot of similarities. Maybe we can
strive towards something more cohesive like that. Still different and diverse, that's fine
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because because also we have different likeyou know, from the South to the
north, Like even within the US, of course it's different and we have
different attitudes because we're different environments exposedto different things. It's like Northern Southern
India are very different places. Likeone is like in your face, like
right there, Well you either doyou probably won't go back because it's intense.
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But they're they've invaded time and timeagain. You know, it's like
they're used to that. But SouthernIndia is like chill, laid back,
they've never been invaded, like justcomparatively and definitely works that one example.
Yeah, but like look at NorthKorea and South Korea. North Korea Korea
too, same thing. Did Icut you off or did I cut somebody
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off off? But we only havefour minutes lest yeah, I know what
a like what a cluster? Thisone? Sorry is Well, it's perfectly
imperfect, just like life. Andthat's the thing that's like. Also,
the language of healing is healing isnot a uniform journey. Time is not
a uniform thing. Relationships are notuniform. They take work and effort and
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curiosity and pauses and questions and explorationsand what else compassion, understanding, unconditional
love. Well, we went backto that motive and talking about that motive
thing before. Okay, so whatis the motive when somebody says something to
you, like I think people don'tthink of that. They don't think of,
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like, what is that person's motiveto try to convince you to believe
what they believe? And maybe it'sa good motive. I'm not saying it
as to be a bad motive,but unless you take that pause to kind
of figure out what their motive is, you can't really analyze it the proper
way, you know, just likewe were talking about, Okay, what's
the motive of making people think that, you know, you shouldn't go to
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China, or you shouldn't go Europe, or you know, there's a reason
for that what's the motive for anything, you know, anything that's going on
politically, what's the motive. Themotive to me politically right now is to
keep people divided so the powers thatbe on the same team that's not mine
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can get things done, you know. And what would be the motive of
us taking a pause, not listeningto these people and banding together. I
think it would make a better worldfor the old human race, because we
are one race, one people,the human race, and all this stuff
with male against female, straight againstnot straight, black versus white, Hispanic
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verse American. You could go onand on with the list of the separation
that we're being fed these days.If we just paused, maybe we would
see we all believe the same andwe, like you said, go back
to what you said, we allwant the same thing generally, and all
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we are doing by not pausing isnot getting what we want. If we
pause, and we can all learnfrom each other, understand each other,
love each other, and create theworld that we want instead of the world
they're creating for us. You're here, wow, yep, and that's changing
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there now, Nicole. You haveto wrap up the show, Okay.
I was just thinking back to themountains. You you are the mountain.
You know, you're like blending inwith the mountain. We are all the
same, just different hues. Youryellow worker alongs amongst the the backdrop.
Amazing. Sorry, I have thesun shining on me over the mountaintop.
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That's what created this color. Yeah, looks great. I don't know what
else to add. I mean,that's great. Just be kind, spread
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need to leave because you don't haveto go home, but you can't stay
here. We're done, so whydon't you give the last words? Nicole?
All right, thanks so much forjoining and we'll see you next week.
Thanks for Melanie. Oh yeah,do you want to leave your contact
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See I had to correct that becauseI heard the other so in case others.
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Don't connect with me because not somuch. But these two women,
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incredible at rolling the outro. That'swhat she's incredible at. I know it's
probably that time now, Okay,thanks so much for tuning in everybody.
Look forward to seeing you next time. Wow. What a show today,
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