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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are you ready to take a journey. Let's connect with
the humers of the world. It's that time. It's time
for the Language of Healing on W four WN Radio
and Talk for TV. Now here's your host, doctor Nicole Fort.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello, everybody, welcome to another episode on the Language of Healing.
This episode is Paracardium Happy Hour. So before I get
into that, let's say hello to Dean.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Dean, all right, I was confused for a second. I
thought maybe I was doctor Nicole Fort.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Why what Well, because it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Announced us and we both came on, you didn't say
you were doctor Nicole Fort, and so I kind of
feared maybe I'm doctor Nicole Forton.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, I mean I don't think that's.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, So then you're definitely the doctor, Okay. I just
want to make sure everybody watching knows who you are.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Okay, thanks, I don't know. I mean, your name could
be Nicole. I mean it's possible. What if it was
your real name?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do we what if it was the Nick and Nicky Show.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, that's totally possible too.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There's another there's a new show on. That's a new show,
ide the Nick and Nicky Show, Nick Nicky. That's not
good idea. Never mind, Let's do this show instead.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I like this show.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
This is a much better show for us right now.
The language of healing. Like it?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It sounds remind Yeah it does. What was that movie
A Little Nikky with Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny. He was the Devil's Sun. Yeah,
and he had that weird Flock of Seagulls hairdo.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah exactly, I know, one of the Flock.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Of Seagulls, because Rebel is one of those weirdos that
likes bands like Flock of Seagulls and Culture Club and
and all those bands.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That I mean, epic hair, they're just that's.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Not epic hair. It's dumb hair, okay. And somebody that
has blue hair and different color hairs at times, and
that's just dumb hair. Okay, just say it.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Okay, is the blue in your hair your ear?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's gone, it's gone. Okay, it faded, So it faded
back to my natural color.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Right, Okay, that's that's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
All right. Natural Rebel's sitting there itching to say something,
but now she lost her opportunity.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Opportunities are never lost. I'm just saying, but no, I'm
just sit here and enjoying the show.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, you do that.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, So today's today's a bit of a party, party vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well that's why I'm like this because it's like happy hour.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah so I so I cruised up to Happy Hour
listening to a song that really pumps me up.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
And you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Take a guess what that would be.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, it would be a Rush song for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, Rush number one, two or three.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Canadians only think there's like one band that ever lived,
and it was Rush. Actually there's a few of them,
but they all Why is it all Canadian rock bands
only consist of three members? It's like every just about
every one of them.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I mean it's like a lot of chefs in
the in the kitchen, you know, maybe like a trio
has a good cohesive vibe. You know, you do see
the odd you know couple, I guess, or bigger bands.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You would, you would definitely know more more than I would,
even if they're Canadian beauty ah yes, beauty a all right, anyways,
let's talk about my hot okay, yes, yeah, okay, there's
so there's so many aspects to the heart, I know. Okay,
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one thing I know, I have a lot of thoughts
about this, so I'm going to try and keep it
as clear and less tangenty and so then you keep
me on track, okay, because this is a big topic. Okay. Well,
if the heart was like a player in you know,
a character in the big game of life, it would
be it's like the pace pacemaker, right, it's the beat.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's say pacemaker, because that's what happens when your heart's damaged.
You get a pacement. Yeah that's maybe that's the bad
choice of words, okay from somebody I had two heart attacks,
Please don't mention tase maker.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
All right, Yeah, well, I mean it's yes, I understand that, but.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Baker.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's like the cadence keeper. How about that?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, I'm good with that. Cadence That means absolutely nothing
to me, so I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay. Yeah, you know what cadence means like a certain
like like rhythm. You know, it's like keep on beat.
It's a steady beat. So it's like it's consistency.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's it's like the rhythm in my heart. You know
that song?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, what is that? Well, not off the top of
my head. You have to sing it maybe a little.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Closer to Yeah, it has to do with what you're
talking about today, my heart.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, how many songs are about the heart? Let's just
say that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, far too many? Yes, and you feel my heart.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And you feel, well, I'm closer to the heart? Am I? Closer?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
They're either closer to hard or closer in another way
that the Trent Residor would tell you about.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh yeah, okay, okay, what would that be?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh okay, that's not for this show.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh I see okay, okay, never mind.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Has to do with an animal and closer.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And stop it. You're supposed to keep her on track?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, any any any songs that resonate with you Rebel
around the heart.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, no, not, I mean almost everything eighties I guess.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Oh yeah, she's into all those uh.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Total eclipse of the heart.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So yeah, okay, this is this is a karaoke party.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Now there it is. Okay, what other songs? Okay, that's
a good one though, Okay, what songs involve the heart?
Let's name for the language of healing. The top five
songs that have to do with the heart.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Okay, Well, I would obviously pitch it in like Closer
to the Heart Rush.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Okay, So we'll do like you do on those game shows. Okay,
so we'll put that up there. We don't know if
it's one or five, and we'll all determine, so we'll
all pick ones to go up there. Okay, so Rebel,
who's your pick?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Oh goodness, give me a moment to think about that.
Songs about the hearts.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
She's gonna say, kick start my heart.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh yeah, nice, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
But that's well, I guess that's it's not exactly it's
a definitely Motley Krue.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But yeah about the heart?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
How about heart Shaped Box? Nirvana? Is that Nirvana?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, that's Nirvana? But that I don't think that's her jam.
Her jam is like the hair metal bands, like all
the ones that look weird and don't play very well.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Stop it?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
How about my ache? Breaky Heart?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
There you go, a break breaky heart?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Why are you putting words in her mouth? Maybe she
wants to depend.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
No, I'm just okay, I'll be quiet.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Okay. Is that your song? Rebel? Is that your song?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I will go with Billy Ray Cyrus' Achi breaky Heart?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay. And so first, before we finish this, can you
tell us what this all has to do with this
Perry Como thing.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I don't think it's Perkay Como. Is Perry Carter?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I know Perry Cardium. Okay, Perry Parry's okay, we're gonna
get serious for a second. Parry, Yes, let's do This
is a Latin term for around.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It also happened to be my dad was one of
the old school ten Men. Did you ever watch that
movie ten Men? They're the luminium signing salesman that would
come to your house and okay, and so they all
used to hang out at this place called and this
bike shop type place in the morning. That's where everybody
would meet and bullshit before they went out on their
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sales calls and there was I'll never forget it. Dude
was in his nineties, still going walking knocking on doors
to pitch people alumim signing his name was old man Perry.
So maybe this has to do with him because.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
He got around. That's oh, that's fine, they're around, you
know if it depends on how they spell Perry.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Okay, all right, so that's the Perry. That's the that's
the winkle part. It's periwinkle, right, No, it's Perry.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Cardium. Come on, Cardium is the heart.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So the cardio is the heart.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, cardiac muscle, you know, cardiac cardium. It's a heart.
It means the heart pertains to the heart. So it's
the The pericardium is exactly that. It's a layer around
the heart.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
So I have a I have a question. Then, Okay,
if you have cardiac disease M and you shouldn't drink alcohol,
that means you can't drink alcohol during a perio cardium
happy hour.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well, I yeah, I would say you get your source
of momentum another way.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And so my song is you Feel My Heart because
I can totally relate to the lyrics in that song,
and one of the lyrics in that song is like
one of the most brilliant lyrics I think ever, just
even if it's not something you relate to, it's built
brilliant lyrics just because of what it says, and that
is I can't drown my demons. They know how to swim.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
M yeah, yeah, that's a really good one, because you gotta, likee.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Know how to swim, but they might not be able
to go a bullet or a sword.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Sword. Do you walk around in Louisiana with your sword? Somebody?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
But some people sammaraized known to walk around with machetes
in the swamp, just.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Saying say that you wonder why, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Swamp samuraiz sam sam.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I never they think they're pirates, but they're too poor
to get a boat out in the ocean, so they
just go in.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And they got that piros. Okay, don't even play. They
got the pi rows in the swamp and they're doing good.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
What's a pierro?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
A flat boat?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Sorry, what's a flat boat?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I thought she was talking about the perryocardium.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, I know, I supposed to.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
No, I gotta say it wrong every single time. For
the whole show because that way, it gives you an
opportunity to teach people what it is.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Right, what was the first one with Perry condo or something?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, the Perry Como.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Perry Okay, gosh, yeah, no, but.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
She knows what it is like. She may look like
she's twelve, but she does. She does have some miles
on it.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'll take it. That's so funny. Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
She does to look at day over eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well you're yeah, let me tell you how the secrets
how you better keep tuning into the language of feeling
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dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean yeah, because look at her like she's like
one hundred and fifty seven years old, and she looks
like she's twenty eight, right.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Wow, Okay, well I was. I would say maybe twenty
one twenty two. I would not say eighty eight or
one hundred and three whatever you keep saying.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
He is I get twenty one twenty two. She thinks
you look twenty one twenty two. You're gonna get carded girl.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah? Oh, I get carted a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I got parted for cigarettes until I was forty.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Like I think when I turned forty one, they're like, Okay,
we don't need to card anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah your past, we'll past the age.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh yeah. Well when I was in my thirties, one
day I shaved off my facial hair. Oh yeah, my
kids got scared. Yeah, never saw me without facial hair.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, that perry cardium.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, because it hurt their heart that I shaved.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Back a little fright, It gave them a little.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Terry como wasn't fully developed yet to protect their heart.
I use I use my perry como as a shield.
Is it kind of feel Is it kind of like
a shield? Does it shield your emotional trauma?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It does? It's definitely okay, like all right, you ready
for this?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes? Serious?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Ready, okay, okay, so let's look at the heart again. Okay.
The heart as like the king, the queen, the emperor,
empress of the body, you know, and the pericardium or
the heart protector is that's the emperor's guard. It's the
first line of defense. Nothing gets to the heart without
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first coming through the car you know.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So like like a guard like the British Empire, not
like the Secret Service, right.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this well, I mean it depends
on the state of ballot with fingers that didn't resist
that actually, you know, yeah, because i've you know, just
on that note. I mean it was a little embarrassing,
I believe because this is like top level and it
was a little bit of a fail. Yes, So it's
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a little bit of support.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So that if you if your your peri como is
no good, yeah, that that might be not healthy for
your heart, right.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, it can definitely lead to extra It prevents attack
from external pathogenic factors, external factors from the outside. So
if the pericardium or the heart's guard is not on point,
it can penetrate and then that cuts deep. I mean,
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the heart is like the cadence keeper.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And so why why is the okay, let's try it, right,
have cardium?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Mm hmmm, right, perry cardium?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Who's here?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Cardium?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Who's here? Okay, so mister Perry cardium? Okay, yeah, Why.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Why does it have to be a mister? Hold on?
Why can't a female?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, I would classify it as a female.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But okay, so missus is it miss missus or.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Miss she prefers not to say?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Okay, so good answer, rebel.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, so we'll just say they Okay, were.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
You going there?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
No? No, she her, Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I say that because there's there's there's yin, and there's young,
there's like, you know, the polaric, masculine, feminine, and every
organ has a pair, and you know some are masculine feminine.
It's it is.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Okay, okay, So is the perry como.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Cardium?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Is that nice?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Is that female or male? In your opinion?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay? Opinion?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
By that definition of what you were saying before.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You know, it's all relative, And I'll tell you why,
because in relationship, it's all in relation to what you're
comparing it to.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
If I were to say what my view point would be,
is the heart is the female?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's the male protecting the heart. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I was just going to that point because in that perspective,
I would say that it is the masculine contained heart. However,
I would say overall, but in a grander, broader, more
deeper scheme that maybe, you know, it would take a
lot to dive into. Actually we can go no, no, no, no,
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I think we need to save that for another time.
But in every organ has as a pair, you know,
So yeah, there's anyways, let's save that for another time.
It's a great question though, and it doesn't really matter
right now.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That could show because I know this is like your
favorite thing to talk about, so we want to talk
about it a lot one of them, and I want
to know why it's one of your favorite things to
talk about, because.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's mysterious and it's not really well talked about or
even put a lot of tension towards. You know. We
look at our major organs like the heart, the lungs,
your spleen, stomach, your coal, and your liver, you know,
but the the pericardium is your It's like the little pixie,
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you know. I don't know, it's like a little magical
component of the body that's in acupuncture world at least,
because we deal with the characteristics of each organ, and
the pericardium can really transform a lot of things. And
I'm all about transformation because people generally, people come to
see me when they're not feeling well or there's something
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a little bit off, you know, and it's like you
go to the doctors and they do blood tests and
nothing shows up. It's, oh, your blood work's fine, but
you're like I seriously don't feel well, So how does
that make sense? So Eastern medicine, Chinese medace and can
offer a perspective that is a bit maybe even pre
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before that shows up in your blood work. You know,
there's because there's the physical realm, there's also the energetic realm,
the emotional realm, like the mental realm, and they all have.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
A role in our.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Complete holistic well being. And these are often like we
can talk about we could do a whole episode on
chi another time, but in the in the basic what's
important to know about chi Sometimes I don't know if
you're familiar with with that principle or you know, some
other terms could be like the prana or the life force,
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like vital energy is energy, Yeah, it's energy. Yeah yeah,
So so if you think about energy, it can be
in that form. It can be like material or immaterial,
you know, from from the ether into something material. It's
all different states of matter, right, So yeah, this is
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where now I get like all like rabbit Holy Blues track.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Rabbit hole do it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, well, this this I find is very interesting because
she in the Chinese character, in the ancient ancient Chinese,
maybe even the modern character it represents two symbols, and
one of those symbols on the bottom is uh, the
character for rice, like edible rice.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And then.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I would say it's I would say it's.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
White rice.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Because they'd remove the husks. I honestly, I know that
there's some bad wraps around, like white rice and stuff,
but you know, traditionally the white rice has really been it.
They removed the husks and anyways, That's what I don't know,
is that a to me, yellow rice is just like
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rice cooked with chicken broth or something.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think Rebel might know what that is.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yellow rice. It's just has a flavor to it. I
think she's closer to being right about it's cooked in
chicken broth or something. It's cooking a broth or something
to give it a different, slightly different flavor.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's awful, yeah, I mean it's tasty.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
And thank you for those words from our rice. Now
onto the show.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, okay, so thank you for that interjection. Okay. So
the character is rice on the bottom and then steam
on the top, So she means it can be as
material as rice or as immaterial as steam, and then
everything in between. It's really it's the transformation of it.
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So when we're talking about physical ailments, for by the
time it shows up on your record or something recognizable
in the physical realm that has gone through the energetic
emotional like spirit realms. So and that's all cheap. So
you know, tapping into the pericardium is like is like
as a magical it's the fairy grand grandmother, you know,
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like really it's it's a little I don't know why
I envision it as a character that's like a little
fairy just hippi, yeah, exactly, a little tinker Bell just
like adds a little bit of a sparkle, and it's
it's so if the heart is all about joy and
you know purpose, it's passion. The reason I also chose
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it for this week is because it's summertime and it's
related to the fire element, and the heart is the
fire element, and tied with that is the per cardium.
The fire is a very powerful element and holds a
lot of transformational power because it's like whatever you put
into the fire burns, turns to ash and then goes
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back into the earth to be com regenerated.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
So which is true, which is why like in California
they do those controlled burns because not only does it
protect it from like burning everything, but it actually fertilizes
the land and this stuff grows back even more plush.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, here, this is a good opportunity, rebel. If you
can pop in that first. Okay, let's do. If you
can pop in the five elements the other one please?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Okay, Oh, it's a it's a JPEG or something that
looks you.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, you mean it's a PNG. Oh, K, jpeg would
be white. Looks like it's upside down too. It kind
of looks like it might you know, the fire should
be at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, why do you say what do you say that for?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Because if you flipped it upside down, it's a pentagram
and then the fire represents hell.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay, you know what. You're not wrong, It's like and
see there is the dynamic, the duality of life right there,
because you can it depends on which way you're looking
at it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, exactly, And that's why you know it is everything's
how you look at things. And so that's why it's
important for people to explain stuff like this because if
they just look at it, they're going to form their
own assumption. Like that was my first thing I went to.
I'm like, oh, it's something satanic. Well, you know, I
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don't know what that says about related.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, exactly, your thoughts are probably related to what you're
surrounding yourself with. So here's a new perspective.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I bet I know what rebels sees though, But go ahead,
what that No, we're not going to bring up what
rebels And then tomorrow to my show we'll talk.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
About Yeah, okay, but what I wanted to but I
wanted to show you here, how's that from the fire
into the earth. You know, that's where so it's like
a new psych that's at the top. To me, it
should be at the top because it's kind of like
the it's the rebirth of everything, the fresh start, completion,
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and then you go into the earth. It's like the
regenerating of the soil, and then into the you can't
see it. It's not we'll we'll figure that out for
next time, because we could do a whole show on
this too. But then the next one is the matter.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I have a way to figure it out. I think
it's not that.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I'm okay, well you go on talk Yeah what I
what I what I was just meaning about that is
it's like part of in the transformational scheme, we can
get stuck in matters of the heart and as as
a regular staple character in our body as the emperor,
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you know, it's kind of important to have that functioning well.
So it regulates your emotions, your emotional stability, and I
mean obviously the circulation. So whatever oxygen and blood's going
into all your cells, that's important to keep function on.
So the okay, maybe that works a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Oh wow, they can see it by the way. I
mean it's a little better with the white background, I guess,
but they can see.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, okay, okay, that's good because the bell, Yeah, the
bell now looks like it makes sense. It's metal and
then water and wood. Okay, so we need to move
through all of these phases. And then often when disease
comes we get it's when we're stuck in one of
these phases. So and then I mean, we can just
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play with this so in so many ways, like do
you see how the water has that arrow up to
the fire, Like water controls fire, right, as you can
imagine if you doubse the fire, it will extinguish.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So well, not always though, right, Well, I think if
you have enough.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Always Well, no, there's certain type of fires were and
then there's people out there and volcanoes.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Okay, so tell me more about that.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I think like an oil fire, you can't throw water
on that.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It'll actually make it worse, right.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes, okay, in that regard. So there's other elements to
the fire. But if we're just talking about a fire
by wood.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Well there you go. That's where the wood guy comes
into play.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Okay, Okay. I don't know if this was helpful or
more confusing at the end.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
All no, I figured it out though. Now put it
back up, rebel. Okay, So the water and the wood,
like the water leads to the wood, leads to the fire,
and then the fire leads to the earth. Yeah. And then.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And then you're wait a minute, if you were following
Pipeman's uh description, it would be switched for fire and water.
The fire gets to the wood, the water puts it out,
it goes back to the earth, and then it can
be turned to metal.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah. But that's the opposite way of the arrows rebel.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, but that is a way that it goes sometimes
in dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
To seriously explain that. Then, so you have the arrows
going one way, going the one way, and then what
mean going the other way? But you're right, there's arrows.
I didn't realize that pentagram was arrows.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah. Yeah, because there's the generation cycle there generate each other.
That's the outer circle. And then there's the controlling cycle
where they where that's the pentagram where they then and
then but they can go reverse direction, and that's like
this the ructive cycle.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
The fire could go to the metal. The metal absorbs
the heat and then the water cools down the metal.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well here look at this the fire.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, the fire can melt metal. It controls metal. You
can you can forge metal, right. The metal controls wood.
You can chop wood with an axe with metal, you know,
and the wood can overgrow earth. The wood can can
consume the soil. Right, and then if you all have
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too much earth water Yeah, well that's well, I mean
the water is the rutal life. So when in doubt,
ump in the jump in the water.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm down with that. You had me jump in the.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Water, yeah, or jump in the lake. I want to
jump in the lake.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But canals that will leave that to rebel.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Isn't that where like the alligators live or canals? Did
I miss something?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yes, that's where they live.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, I know what.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
She's in Louisiana. There's lots of alligators, and you know
that's what's in the canals. Because she's from Louisiana, she's
not afraid that she loves swimming in the canals, just
like these Florida.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Swim in canals. First of all, canals are waste water here.
It's not something you swim in. If you want to
swim in something, go swim in the lake. Go swimming up.
Buy you. Don't swim in a swamp.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And a buy you and a buy you that is
a swamp.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
No, No, there's a difference.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
What's the difference between bayou and swa.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Water difference between brackish water and others and others.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Brackish water means like not moving.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
No, brackish is both fresh and salt water. Oh, it's
like that. It's like it's like, okay, So, if you
were to have a political line, the salt water is
the right, the uh, fresh water is the left, and
the brackish water is the middle.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Okay, And what does that look like when they get
close to each other.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, there is a difference, there is a line. Usually
if they get close to each other, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And then they have like this current sometimes against each other.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So that would be like one side could be like
the heart and the other side could be the pericardium.
And they they they create like a buffer. It's like
a fluid, lubricating buffer zone. Where really.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Tried to hold that in? I really did.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Okay, go ahead, Oh, I'm just trying to look at that,
like that would be a good description of how the
pericardium would look, I think, because it's like attached, it's connected,
but it's separate, and it's like it lubricates the surface.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
It would look like a lubricated alligator, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I have no idea what that looks like if I
imagined it would be.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, I'm sorry, folks, I lost I lost it.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Okay, but that is a serious function, okay, of the paracardium.
What you want, like you want like a dry heart?
You want do you want to dry immovable?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You want something a bit like fluid and flexible And.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, no, anytime my heart has been flexible, it has
not worked out for me.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Okay, so then you know what, Yeah, I think that
that's that's a good point because there's that social connection
with the heart and the para cardium. It's what you know,
connects us to other people. It's a social because I
call it like the para cardian happy hour is because
it's actually quite a social time. And okay, we'll talk
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about this another time, but just little snippet. We have
a circadian rhythm. I don't know if you know that,
but the circadian rhythm is like a you know, a
biological process that happens on a twenty four hour cycle
and so it regulates your whole body systems. But in
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Chinese medicine we also have the same thing, the body clock.
So every two hours it's shifting into a different organ
system or different different energy. So the pericardium governs seven
to nine pm. And this is usually when people are
after dinner, people are relaxing, and you know, it should
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be light hearted and it's very important at this time
to be doing something that nurtures your spirit or that
makes you feel light hearted and you know, brings you joy. Damit,
I can see you, okay. So because if you don't
enjoy this time, then it leads to restlessness and bad sleeping.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I was just enlightened. Actually I get it now because
after dinner, when I go around to everybody, I like
scream in their face, like no wonder they are so
upset at me. They're trying to relax their Perry Como.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I'm miss where that was what
you do to people after dinner time? What what for? Well,
you know, if you're coming from from the underworld, you're
wreaking havoc, that's maybe that is maybe your joy. So yeah,
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it's a little it sounds dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think it's from coming out of the fire. It's
where it's coming from. You know. That's interesting though, going
back to what I asked in the beginning though, like, so,
the way I look at what you're describing for us
laming people that aren't like experts like you, I know.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I hope I'm not losing everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
No you're not, because I'm telling them about Perry Como. Okay,
and so.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
And you obviously have a deep understanding.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, No, the way I picture it is, like I
said in the beginning, it's like this protector of the heart.
So depending on what you put into your body or
how you handle your body as how that Perry Como
is going to protect your heart because you know it
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can change form almost depending on your emotions, your physical,
your mental. And I think that's why it's so important
to have strong mental positivity and viewpoints, because I think
stress and negativity, well yeah, the things that caused you
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to stress and negativity, they you can't control them, okay,
but you can't control your attitude towards them. And the
attitude that you create is what's going to help your
Perry Como to protect your heart. The whole world is good.
(38:21):
Now there's gonna be a TikTok about the Perry Como.
Now I'm just saying, I think the Hawk to a
Girl is going to do a Perry Como video.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Hey, she was at the Stampede this year. She made
a special, a special debut.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
There was Oh well, if you're going to bring that up.
She was on the it was on the news yesterday.
She was at some festival announcing jelly roll and it
was dead silence. Oh yeah her, Well no, no, they're
saying it's over. She's had her fifteen minutes over. That's
(39:01):
what they're saying. No, there's only so far a hawk
till it can go right.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, see, you know it was. It was lighthearted
fun and then we moved on. It's just like you know,
there was a little fire sizzle and then now it
gets recycled into the cycle back.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Show me that again. That was pretty cool. That explains
it to me right there. Okay, he does that. When
she does that, how do you explain what she's doing?
And then I'll tell you how I explain it. We
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can't hear you, rebel.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
She's fluttering her fingers through the air. It makes it
look to be a very relaxing focal point of maybe
a meditation.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
All right, well you is that is that close to
what you were doing? Nicole?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, I would say it's kind of close. I want
to hear what you have to say and then I'll.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Tell you I have I think she was like playing
a spell on me, so I would stop calling it.
Perry Como.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, you both are not wrong. Yeah, that's how you
transmute energy. You know it's energy, you just play with it.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well that's the chee right there.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, So you know, I think a good okay, so, yeah,
the cheat we should give some kind of takeaway.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Listen, well, why don't we give people, give them like
at least one good practice that they could do that
would have the best benefit on their peri como and
their heart.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, okay, so if it's about mastering, okay, so let
me just say about the perry Como.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I got you saying I'm also doing in case that
AI doesn't like us talking about you know who? So
you know, yes, no, but.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Perry Como, didn't you just you know, no.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, not perry Como against.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I understand that. But see what what if AI is
not as intelligent as you think it is and it
catches that instead.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well it might, but let's let Nicole continue because she
has something very important to say and I want to
hear it well, and.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
A lot of important things to say. And then my
squirrel brain just gets lost.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It's okay, I'm rolling you back in right now. Come on,
I know, okay, you were telling you were telling us
about the perry Como. You actually yeah, what's like.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
I think, you know, if we if we're looking at
it like a like the support structure of the physical heart,
it's also your support system, you know, for your for
your heart. So excuse me, you know, I know, I know,
it's about your unseen allies, you know, like maybe something
you don't often consider. So it's a new perspective on
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support system and a big theme for right now because
you know a lot of people. I mean, this was
years ago where loneliness was like the number one, you
know problem for people, because there's a bit of a disconnect,
like we are social beings, you know, in some in
a in a very primal sense, we've always had the
community or support system, and so if you don't feel
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like that you.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Can for yourself.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, I mean just in general, there's studies and maybe
you're perfect. Obviously I know.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
The support system. I don't have the community. It's just me.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Okay, well then maybe you have a very healthy for
you pipe man. Yeah, I mean maybe that's also why
you've had two heart attacks. Like that's a lot of
pressure and burden, you know, in a way, like that's
a lot of support that you've had to throwing it
out there. I mean, it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You may be right, but I think that there's something
related to the fact that I'm divorced twice and had
two heart attacks, right, Well, that's that they're running high
parallel there.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, were they? Like do they coincide at the same time.
I always find this kind of thing very fascinating. The emotions,
emotions can be.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
The heart attacks were way later after I okay after
like I had this major fight with Thanos and then
the world ended and I came up like a phoenix
through the rubble. Uh huh, and that's when I had
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the heart attacks.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Does that sound like some sort of Justice League movie
or something. Me, I don't know, kind of sounds familiar.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Well, yeah, yeah, because somebody had to save the world,
it might as well have been me.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
You know. I mean I think that's what's cool about
movies because they they actually do relate to many real
life experiences given symbolism. You know.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
You know what's cool about my mic is so I
just coughed and nobody knew it because I just turned Yeah,
I turned my mic off and put the mic right
in my face and coughed, so you can't see me
coughing or hear me coughing.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Wow, but that's gross microphone Later, how do you disinfect
that thing?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well, it's my own part and yeah, you my own. Okay,
so I just swallow it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I thought that was a special new feature of Hey
this Mike drowns out cough sounds.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Well, no, it's called a cough button. Yeah, they've had
cough button. Literally, it's called a cough button since like
the beginning of Radio.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, I needed that for when I needed to clear
my throat.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, so I'll say that's the benefit of hiding your
face with Mike. You can do all that stuff. It's
all kinds of things I can do.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
But in reality, those heart attacks probably came from the
sales of the group ons. We have five minutes left
to get to every point.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
There's no there's no group bonds on this episode. And seriously, though,
doctor Nicole, I think this is something we should have
a part do.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, you know one hundred, We're gonna have like a
part two, three, four, five.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
But I mean even next week, because this was okay,
so we'll make it's like the happy hour and next
week is the is like the appetizer or main course.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
The presentation, because like this is where it gets together
and you know we ja.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
You said it was happy hours. So I drank a
bottle of tequila before the show to make sure I
was ready for a happy hour. Okay, so next week
it'll be different.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, all right, we can do that. I think that's
still relevant. Maybe just.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Us the strongest point of this show. Okay, we had
the laughs already, so that that's taking care We played,
that's taking care of We had a happy hour. That
bottle's empty. Now tell us about the pericardium.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Now you want me to be serious? Okay, what I
was going with though, I think that Okay, three main
things that I think are relatable. Okay, it's your support system,
your on your unseen allies will say your and your
and your guard. So it provides the oxygen and the
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blood flow and the openness that your heart needs. So
you know, you can also you can imagine that your
you know your heart's open and and you can say
that to yourself mentally. But you know, maybe there's a
little constriction, a little more constriction. So I would say
that to the way the quickest way to get into
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the pericardium is is not so much physical. It's more
emotional and and thought provoking questions. So think about your
support system, like in what ways do I feel supported?
Or in what ways do I not How do I
feel about my boundaries? You know? Are they are they healthy?
Are they are they laxed? Do I feel like I'm
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just like my heart's on the on the floor, like
you know, it's not supported and it just you know,
getting crushed out there in this hard world. We need
a little shield or even some skills. It's like training
your your guards, you know, little emotional strength there. Yeah,
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so what other questions? I had some questions I wrote down. Oh,
it's particularly around like joy. And I remember once this
is kind of like a sad story in a way,
because I was working with someone who was doing body
talk like on me, you know, and she asked me,
like what makes you happy? And I couldn't even think
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of something that made me happy. It made me cry,
you know. It was like so so how and it
was like how do I not know? How could I
not connect with something that makes me happy?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
So I think that that's that's an example of a
disconnect between My.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Answer would have been perichom, go ahead, of.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Course, who would be thanks for bringing the light? Okay? Oh.
My favorite thing about the Periccardian is that it acts
like the court gesture. It's like the comedian, so it
brings a lightness to you know, maybe some of the
bitterness of life, like a good comedian. It will it
will lay out the facts, but you.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
And we're going to have to continue this next week
to okay, but what you're basically saying is I am
a Paracardian.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I agree, yeah, yeah, I am the Empress. I'm the Empress,
and you are the Empress's guard.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
There you go. I'm just the I'm the parent.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
For your service and.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Thank you for the Language of Healing once again, and
we're going to do more of this next week as
we're on every on W four WN Radio, W four
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which could be another time somewhere in the world. So
(50:15):
wherever you are, it's at the time of wherever you're
supposed to.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Be, it's happy hour.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Somewhere, it's happy hour. It's two o'clock somewhere, and that's
going to be at the Language of Healing this week
and every week where we're going to talk about Perry
Combo for the next fifty two weeks. Not really, folks,
not really, folks. We're going to talk about Lawrence Welk
next week so no, we are going to we are
(50:43):
going to talk about affairs of the heart. We're going
to talk about protecting the heart, and we're going to
talk about heartbreak achy breaky heart. And now we have
to go because we went over our time. Thanks a lot,
pipe man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Thanks, yeah, thanks for tuning in and joining us. Keep
smiling everybody, and we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Wow. What a show today, And the journey does not
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