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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk Z'B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right now another another bruiser your bruiser film major?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
No, no, no, oh?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
In your earlier days?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh mate, No, not really no, I just play around
with cars and stuff and.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, really get into it. Were you at Cliff
Richard last night?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
No? I didn't. I saw. I saw in the paper
he was here with Priscilla Presley.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well they happened to meet up. Interesting photo. There's a photo.
I don't know who took it, but it's been in
the news. And she she got a glass of wine
on the table and it looks like he's holding onto
a candle and I just hope you didn't lift it
up and try and drink it with Cliffridchi behold a
wax down the front of his shirt. I noticed the
weird things.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You're not wrong. I can't argue with you, John.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We're speaking of weird things. This idea of some sort
of tidal barrier on the estuary. We'll get to that,
but first up, people have been getting in touch saying
what the hell's happening with Maidstone Road and Glandovey Road.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What can you tell us right, I can tell what
I can tell you that the the Glendovery Road, sorry
Maidstone Road, has come a long way from all the
way down by the by the university. It's a relief
for the intensification that's going on out there. The pipe
was being overloaded, the sewer pipes has a new sewer
pipe being put in the contract. I actually rung him
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last night because I drove through there. I said, what
the hell are you doing? He is three months ahead,
so he's going to be definitely finished by Christmas. But
the burg issue at the moment, as people drive past,
I'll see a big hole in the middle of one
Murray Road and that's the sort of structure that will
direct the thurd either down the old pipe or down
the new pipe. And why is that a problem? It
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was not a problem. It's just you can't. If you're
digging your trench, you dig it, you lay the pipe
and you finished. But when you've got to put a
structure somewhere, that does take a lot longer. Right, So
it is very upheaval off traffic. But he will be
finished by Christmas.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So if people think that was bad, there's there's more
to come.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Igether there's a new no no and there is a
contract out and I don't I've got no idea who's
got it, But I do know that Wireki Road is
going to be just letting people know, a nightmare for
probably a year next year to fix old decayed sewer
pipes in WI roads. So I've got to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So what sort of distance you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
From you know where Arangy Road went across. There's just
recently they've done some work there from there all the
way up to Graham's Road. So when does essa I'd
imagine it's going to start the probably February March somewhere
there and there's about a year of it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Do the locals there know about it?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Hearing here first brilliant one and one in stakeholder engagement's
got no. I'm sure how people have been out there
that we start working no this is and all that
sort of thing. But it needs to be done because
there's so much storm water groundwater leaking into the circus
of pipes and knacket All.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Right, okay, speaking of things being done up, and I'll
get to about part of key Key all the exit.
I'm just wondering what the hell's happening there? What's happening
with the chellice?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Right? The chellice. I've walked past it the other day
and this we got all this scaffolding around it and
then it's done up like it's going to be there
for the next five years, and oh my god, what's
going on here? The reason for it is we've backed
off on the on the timing through the winter. It's
now going.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
To get that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
All the little bits have been taken off and they've
been taken away, they've all been recoated that, but the
main bit has got to be sand blasted or prepared
and stuff like that. And the last thing we want
to do is have sand blasty dust with god knows
what and it's sprang round all over the place. So
it was that was That's the main thing that's happening,
and it will be finished in the first quarter of
next year.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What's it going to mean for the cost?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think it's all part I'm not sure what it's
all part of that far too much cost that was
there to start with.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, how much does it costing? Remind me four.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Hundred you're the woman the bill. The number that we
were talking about was about four hundred and I'm not
sure they looked at doing things a bit differently, but
that were Ferrari that come up with it being four
hundred right at.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
The start, But you haven't managed to get it below that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't know. I don't know the stuff's been working, because.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Would have thought dragging it out over summer would increase them.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Ah. I think it just sat there with no bits
bolted to it for quite some time. And now they're
into it at about.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The thing on the Northern Motorway, the fan fare, Yeah,
that's going to that's going to need a similar piece
of work.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I was talking to you before the next cab off
the rank one day, and I'm not sure when will
be that fanfair thing that we got gifted by someone
because they probably woke up with the fact on how
much it's actually going to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Cost it it was a gift little lumber.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, well that's right. You look at it and I
drive past it and a lot of the spinny things
might not be spinning, and that's that's going to be
a nightmare. So looking after these things is bloody expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So will each of those have to be taken off
like they've done with the Jealice.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I'm sure it's
going to be.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Expensive, all right, part of key order. What's happening that
the new pool and then it was handed over to
the council at the very last minute and the council
has been brick age. But when the opening is going
to be well, what's what's the secrecy? Is there something that?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Something? Is there?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Something quite right?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
There's definitely nothing wrong. Our staff are in there fitting
it out now because there's a lot of stuff that
has to have in high performance sports in there. There's
there's all sorts of Canary netballer and getting their stuff ready.
We've got two hundred staff. They're going to go in there.
I went to and I think, I'm not sure when
I'm doing it, But I went to the council put
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out the thing to see year seven and eight students
who wanted to be yes, that's right. And I went
over there the other day and they were over the moon.
I said to the I said them, I saw sat
down in front of them and I said, oh, the principal, Jenny,
she's she's a bit scared to tell you this. And
I've been asked to come and tell you that, you know,
there were four four schools that ent A whole lot
of schools entered and four schools have gotten and I
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got some very bad news for you. And I said,
you're not fourth your first Well you should say look
at it and around load the place. So that's some
time in the next couple of weeks. I'm not quite
sure when, because they're going to have there will be
about one hundred and forty kids there to do it
a soft start to know how the changing rooms work,
to not just to sort of get a bit of
a feel. But I don't know that next week.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Because you've got the Special Olympics coming up.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Correct next week is when the date will be told
for the opening. It's definitely before Christmas. It may be
after the Special Olympics, or.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It may be before and I don't know you mean
the terms of public access, but it'll be open for
the Special Olympics.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's got to be open for the specialist. It will be. Yes,
you're definitely yes, there's nothing there's nothing broken, there's nothing
not works, not thinking no no no no.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
No no no no no reassurance absolutely all. Sweet, Yep,
you're just being a bit cagy.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No, no, no, I'm not not good.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm just double checking this or this housing intensification business. Yes,
why are you so excited about it? When we had
Business New Zealand yesterday saying if we're going to remain viable,
we have to have twice as many people living in
New Zealand. So aren't you somewhat narrow in your views?
So thinking you've got your housing intensification sorted for the
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next thirty years and an actual fat you've got no idea?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, no, no, We've got every idea that the government said,
if you can prove to us you can fit seventy
thousand people in the next citing all.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
To the point maybe the government has got no idea.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh no, I don't think so. We were one of
the only cities that's pushed back and said we're not
happy with an Auckland and a Wellington situation being rammed
down our throat, and the government listened to us. We
work with them and we've identified areas that are going
to be intensified. Another one that's floating around is very
soon Apollo Stadium won't be there. So that's one that
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I reckon should be marked for intensification. It wasn't part
of the sixty thousand, but places areas like this will
come up from time to time and say, right, that's
common sense, that that's intensified. So people can jump on
a bustingerer off in the town.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
All right, okay, let's get into this tidal barrier thing. Now,
what can you what on earth were you thinking? Well,
what are you still thinking? I mean, can you explain
in and you'll be great at this in laypersons terms,
what you're proposing here and why? Well, so this is
on the oven heathcut Estuary. Yes, well, first of what
was the problem.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
The problem is we have we've got sea level rise
quietly just creeping up behind us. That's happening, whether you're
like it or not. Vast areas of that part of
town have actually sunk up to a meter in Bexley
and stuff like that. Places that we're getting and undated
once every year or so. We're then going to get
it copped all the time we've put it. It'll help
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the Heathkeet River and the Avon River. We spent a
couple hundred million dollars putting great big ponds up the
top of the heath get River which stops the water
getting in. That's good, We got that sorted. But as
far as the bottom end with in the estuary where
the water is coming in higher and higher with the
with sea level rise, if we can put that barrier
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in and just it might only be shut on every
full moon or when there's a king tie, just to
stop the reef at that particular time. The other good
thing about it is that it can be built with
cycling and walking across it. And now if you're riding
your bike down to some of it down the coastal
pathway and you think, oh, I might go across here
and go up to Brighton. Have ten percent of the
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people do that? Brighton's going to be a lot busier.
And the other thing is it just if people are
driving into Brighton on the left hand side of the road,
just before you get to the Pages Road bridge, you'll
see a whole lot of stop banks, not not a lot.
It's only four hundred meters of them, but they cost
one million dollars for every one hundred meters. And if
we have this tidal barrage thing and we won't need
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as many height in this march.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, but what about the fact that in twenty fifteen
there was an estimate done. Because this is not a
brand new idea, and back in twenty fifteen they said
they said it would cost four hundred and thirty million.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's not something That's all I'm saying is let's float
it out there and see. Because of sea level rise
is going to happen. It will cost a lot of money.
It's something that will be in the long term plan.
It might be fifteen years before it happens. But if
we don't look ahead of the situation, we might be
caught short.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What is it you quoted in the news saying people
go on to this, They say, Phil wats your legacy projects?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Is that what you're talking about? People say this, and
I and when I was asked in pay for your day, said, oh,
I suppose you will say this is a legacy project.
It's not. I just want to look at common sense
things that might help fix big problems coming to christ
Teach in the future. So down at very high tides,
right down at the lower reaches of the heath get
and lower reaches of the avon, and nine times out
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of ten when there's an extremely high tide, it's peddling
down with rain that makes it even worse, so we
can control that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So is this something that people are complaining about and
calling for or you just thought of it?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
No, No, I saw it. I was going through some
stuff that council had done years ago. It was twenty
fifteen when it was drawn up, and I thought, ah,
this could be a good this could be good. So
let's just have a look at it and get a
little bit more information on it. So one thing, I'll
tell you one thing. We had some people come in
the other day about like Forsyth, the flooding at Little River,
and they've come up with an idea to have a
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couple of pipes that go, a mechanical idea to get
some pipes to so they can control the level of
the lake so it doesn't cause so much grief going forward.
And that's what made me think, Oh, I wonder about this.
So I put it in tital barriage and behold this
pipe out all right. So ten years ago they thought
would be four hundred and thirty million. Where would the
money come from. It'll have to, it'll have to. That's right. Here,
we go selves keeping rates there. Everyone wants to keep
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rates down and here he is going to blow out
four hundred and fifty five hundred million ago were more
than teen years ago, it was four hundred and thirty coming.
Where will it come from? Let's just go through the
process and see what it is. If it takes ten years,
twenty years, so be it. But I'm not it's not
going to start next week.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You wouldn't be knocking on the door of the government
asking for money.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
You could do. It could be a city deal thing.
If it keeps the if it keeps the water, if
it solves a problem for the whole city like flooding.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What are other councilors think about it?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I only threw it at them the other day so
that they're in the dark as much at you, because
this is one of the films wee brain waves at
three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Can you text me at three am when you got
these ideas and pure for what you wish for?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I can give you some very honest feedback. Nice to
see a film.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Good on Man's see you later.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
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