February 26, 2025 • 33 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast for Thursday 27th of February 2025, Retailers don't seem to be onboard with the Government's proposed changes to citizens arrests, Retail NZ Chief Executive Carolyn Young tells Andrew Dickens why.
International tourism expenditure has returned to pre-Covid levels.
Former Defence Minister Andrew Little analyses Foreign Minister Winston Peter's visit to China to meet their Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens on
early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
use talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Good morning to you, Welcome to the program. Thank you
for choosing us today. Over the next sixty minutes, international
tourist spending has returned to pre COVID levels, but tourism
domestically has dipped. This is according to the latest figures
out of Stats New Zealand. And we're going to talk
to the tourism industry next when Simpeter's has met with
high ranking officials in China. So what is in play?
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Andrew Little will be talking to us in ten minutes
time to Matatini has going off and Nicola Willis thinks
it could go global. So how successful has this Kappahaka
festival been? And the power of citizens arrest is not
going down as well as expected with retail, so what
are they worried about. We'll talk about this just before six.
We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand and around
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the world. We're going to America today and news as
it breaks. Plus you can say whatever you like about
whatever you want by giving me a text. The number
is ninety two ninety two or small charge applies. If
you want to write me a longer epistle, you can
send me an email. Dickens at news talk zeb dot
co dot nz. It's eight after.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Five the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's Thursday, the twenty seventh of February. Ukraine's President Voladimiya
Zelensky has confirmed the United States has given no security
guarantees yet in the proposed mineral deals. Zelensky heads to
the White House this week. He's expected to sign the deal,
but he says it's more of a framework.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I really asked for at least an understanding that we
see this as far of future security guarantees. Therefore, even
in the framework agreement, I really wanted at least a
sentence to appear the guarantees of Ukraine's security, and the
government officials briefed me it has appeared.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Meanwhile, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has rejected calls for
European peacekeepers to be deployed on Ukrainian soil under the
terms of any peace deal to end the war, and
that you know, might just be a deal breaker. BP
has announced it's going to cut its renewable energy investments
and instead focus on increasing oil and gas production. The
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move has been announced after pressure from some investors unhappy
that its profits and share price have been lower than
its rivals. To Australia, where a top radio presenter has
left nationwide radio station Triple M after making comments about
the country's women's football team they called the Matilda's. Marty
Schergeld said on air the players reminded him of Year
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ten girls. It implied that their matches were boring.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
These comments reflect offensive and outdated ideas about women's football.
They are degrading and demeaning to every woman and girl
who wants to be treated as an equal participant in
society and in sport.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And finally, Donald Trump has shared his vision for the
future of the Gaza Strip in an AI video. It
includes skyscrapers, golden statues of Trump, and dollar bills raining
down upon the children there. And this is the jingle
he used, shame Right, Golden Future, Life the Diner to one. Okay,
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it is ten out to five.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property Search Simple,
Youth Talk said.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Be here's a truism about being a human. Human civilization
is built on energy. The taming of fire and then
the development of controlled energy release is what pushed on
our progress since the Stone Age when they first set
up a fire and roasted a wilderbeast. Food and water
are important, but without energy, we can't sustain the incredible
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human population growth of the last two hundred years and
the cities we have built. So with everything that's going
on around us in New Zealand and our day to
day chatter, it's important to remember that we sit in
an ongoing and long lasting energy crisis. So we know
that eighty five percent of our energy comes from renewables
that's fired on by wind and water, and that's unreliable. Yesterday,
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Meridian Energy announced a one hundred and twenty one million
dollar loss caused by last winter's power shortages caused by
empty hydro lakes, and in announcing the result, the CEO
said the company took a hit for New Zealand to
keep us powered up so we can keep making some money.
That's why Genesis Energy announced last week they're importing a
(04:33):
million tons of coal as backup. Today, farmers are being
worn that a late summer drought is imminent. Yes, it's
rained this summer, but the wind has blown drying out
the country. You can see it in your lawn and
Tahlanaki seminars are already being held to prepare farmers for
what has been called a one and fifty year event.
So it's dry, and it's continuing to be dry, and
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so the chances of another power crisis this winter are
very high. So for any green minded folk out there,
I need to tell you that the possibility of reducing
our dependence on fossil fuel is a fantasy. Until humankind
invents an energy source that is independent of the rain
and the wind and the sun, we will be constrained
in our ability to grow, no matter what we say
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about productivity or economic growth. And can I just say
that is not pessimism, that is the reality of where
we are twelve after five. I've been loathed to criticize
the school lunch program, but come on, Lincoln Heights has
had but a chicken for eleven days out of seventeen.
Just imagine it, not but a chicken again. It was
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day nine a Pitipit lunches for Massy Primary School in
West Aukland yesterday, So in an ideal world, we wouldn't
need school lunches. But this is not an ideal world.
School lunches are a staple in England. They were developed
in post war austerity, when basic nutrition was poor the
kids had to be fed. The fact that we believed
we need school lunches in the first place was evidence
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of how far we've slipped in terms of caring for
our kids. For whatever reason, we've ended out with people
who can have kids but can't afford to feed them.
So school lunches became a thing. And then David Seymour
thought he could make them better by making them cheaper
by centralizing the production. Can I just note the irony
of that centralizing of production is a bit of a
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socialist thing, but it came from David Seymour. But he
promised that his school lunch program would be as good
and probably better. Well it isn't. And that's it. Five
point thirteen. So the tourists are back, good news, but
do they come with a headache. We're going to talk
about the tourism numbers that are starting to pick up
again with a tourism holding CEO grant website. He's with
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us in just a few moments time here on News
Talks AB Andrew.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Dickens on early edition with one roof to make your
Property search simple Youth Talk.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Zib it is sixteen minutes up to five and finally
some good news for the tourism sector. The tourists are
back and they're spending the big BIS. New data shows
that international tourism expenditure was up fifty nine point nine percent.
They spent sixteen point nine billion dollars in New Zealand.
To give you some sort of comparison, in twenty nineteen,
it was seventeen point two billion, so it's pretty much
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back there. The numbers are promising and Tourism Holding CEO
Grant Webster joins me. Now, good morning to your grants.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So finally it's happened. What's causing the increase?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Ah, this was the way it's going to happen. You know,
it's in our DNA on a global basis that we
want to get out and about and visit the world.
So people look at the opportunity and New Zealand to
an attractive destination. So that coming.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So why is domestic tourism down?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh, that's that's just a somewhat be the economy, but
it's the growth and outbound as well. So just like
people want to come here, is the number of New
Zealanders want to get back out overseas. So that's understandable.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So how is the tourism industry reacting because there's a
surge of people.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, look, I mean there's something like a fifteen percent
increase in the number of tourism businesses in that satellite
account information that came out yesterday as well. That's great.
So we're actually attracting more employment. People are seeing as
an opportunity to start their own business, and so I
think the industry is responding really really well. It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Okay. Now, Queenstown civic officials were in the news yesterday.
They're unhappy that the country has moved from high wealth tourists,
which was the labor thing, to what seems to be
mass tourism. Anyone who wants to come here, come on,
everyone must go. They say that approach is unsustainable without
a big infrastructure spend. Do they have a point.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I think that it's a very small point that's relative
to a few locations at a very short time of
the year. Now, the reality is New Zealand's expensive. You know,
our total visitor numbers haven't got back to pre COVID,
but as you said in your opening, we're very close
to total spend, so we're in a spen of destination.
We're already getting high value tourists. That's who comes. People
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who sort of masterism go to different destinations that are
a lot cheaper. So we're alway getting high value tourists.
And we've got plenty of infrastructure throughout the country that
can sustain really good growth for a number of years
to come. So maybe there's some places at peak times
of the year that need some support and that will come.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That'll come, okay, So what is the industry doing to
support this trend of improvement continuing? And how do you
feel about everyone must go?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So look, it's great to have any kind of campaign
that's going to support the winter tourism business, and that's
what that campaign's targeting. Australia's coming here over the next
short period. We've been breafed of a good event strategy
for some time, so we haven't had any big events
since over winter, since the FIFA World Cup, so I
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think that's all goods let's go the tagline. Some people
love it, some people don't by to buy the pointers.
We're out there and we're asking for business, and so
I think the industry's in behind touris in New Zealand
and wants to see them do well.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Grab we episode. I thank you for your time today.
Granted is the CEO of Tourism Holdings. G has just
sent me a text and said down in hockey Ticket
at the moment, working man, the places going off people everywhere.
All motels are full and have been all weakened by
the way. The weather's been really great on the West
coast as well. So this is good news. Are the
texts that have arrived. Oh, for goodness sake, we had
sandwiches every day in our school lunches for years, made
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by our mother. Beggars can't be choosers. And that's a
comment I guess about the eleven days of butter chicken
in a row? And when does this restraining law come
into effect? This is the citizens arresting. It will help
supermarkets a lot. Thank you Sarah for your text. We're
going to talk about this just before six o'clock because
retailers are not as happy as you might expect. But
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next China, Winston is there, he's been talking to high
ranking officials. So what's on the table and what are
the risks? Andrew Little is joining us next The.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
News This Morning and the In Depth Analysis Early edition
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Speaker 3 (11:08):
Said, be hey, it's five twenty two. So Winston Peter's
met with China's Foreign minister overnight as those warships in
closer to Australia. They're well into Australia's Exclusive Economic zone
at this point. But New Zealanders and Australians are like
hopeful that Winston has had some words with Chinese officials.
But to give us some sort of insight about what's
happening at that level, I'm joined by former Defense Minister
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Andrew Little from the Labor Party.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Hello Andrew, good morning.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
So what are the rules around being in an exclusive
economic zone?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Well, as long as they as long as you're in
international waters and you obeying the rules under the United
Nation's Convention on the Law of the Sea, then that's
all fine. They and that's what China is doing. But
there's no question why they are down here and they're
live firing, and all the rest of it is they
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are projecting and making it very care to Australia and
New Zealand and no doubt the rest of the pacifics
that they are capable of doing this, that they have
vessels that can come the far and this is about
projecting their military strength that they have at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Power projection. This is true. How close can the steps
get before they've overstepped.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Once around then the twelve mile zone of twelve miles
or four Then at that point it's expected that there
would be permission and that would be that would be
properly notified in a way That hasn't happened so far.
But at the moment, every indication is that they are
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observing the law of the sea. And all we can
already do is observe at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Okay, So, Wissa Peter's met with Wang Yi, who's China's
foreign minister, last night. We've all seen the releases. You've
been a defense minister. Can you read between the lines
and tell us how successful that meeting was or not.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Yeah, I saw the statement they've released and they've reported
those recorded the issues that were raised. That's the way
these things happen, that the statements tend to be pretty
bland and very polite and all the rest of it.
But I think we can be assured that the issues
were raised, and I expect that mister Peters, as a
long serving foreign minister, done it many times, and who
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knows when he would have been pretty forceful I expect
and his representations about that. The way you deal with China,
to make your point is, you know, what you say
behind closed doors in the room is one thing. The
way you talk about what you said afterwards is a
different thing. That's just the way you keep face with China.
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That has more of an impact than sort that the
megaphone diplomacy that we've seen in another case, Well, you're.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Talking about megaphone diplomacy. Acting Prime Minister David Seymour yesterday
had some fairly harsh words for China, and there is
there really a risk in using strong language and domestic
media to define our position, just trying to really take offense.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
I mean, China will understand that, you know, politicians of
whatever country, but here in your zin need to speak
to a domestic audience and we'll say those things. I think, however,
they will also expect that when there is a bilateral
dialogue such as the one that Features has been in,
that issues will be raised and it's that's the forum
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to have the argument about it. And I think the
I mean, I think the other thing about dealing with
China is understanding that the relationship with China is multi dimensional.
So there is you know, there's the trade relationship, which
is really positive, but there's also what they do and
how they relate to other countries, particularly in our region,
so that isn't protected positive and that's that's we We
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just have to navigate that style of relationship with China.
But having having the dialogue is important. Raising INFUSA is important,
but China will understand that politicians have to speak to
a domestic audience as well.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Hekay, Andrew Little and I thank you so much for
your expertise. Andrew is the former Defense Minister and has
talked to China before. And it's now five twenty six.
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Ryan Bridge. Thank you for choosing us. It is five
twenty eight. So the power of citizens arrest was all
the talk yesterday and I think we all agree that
poor old dairy owners and small retailers who watch rat
bags nicking their stuff need the ability to be able
to detain the thieves. But the announcement came without many details.
The Justice Minister, Paul Goldsworth says the changes will expand
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a person's ability to detain someone committing a crime to
any time of the day and over any stolen goods.
So what we've got at the moment citizens arrest can
be made right now, but it can't be made outside
the hours of nine pm to six am unless the
goods being stolen are worth at least one thousand dollars.
And you can make your citizens arrest, but you need
to know your law. You need to know whether the
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crime committed is going to attract a custody or sentence
more than three years, and you need to know the
legal definition of reasonable. So when appearing on Ryan Bridges
Show last night, the Minister stammered and under and art
and then stressed it's only a proposal, and he seemed
vague on the rules of engagement, which is what we
all wanted and that is critical information. In other interviews yesterday,
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the minister also said the courts will provide guidance as
to the boundaries of the law. So in other words,
he's saying, have a crack and if it all goes
horribly wrong and the shopkeeper ends out in court, well
we'll figure out the rules better. No wonder. Many in
retail say it will change nothing. It is a big
risk taking on a criminal. You'll probably discover they're much
more at home with violence than you are. Already, though,
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we've seen shopkeepers defend their shop from robbers with softball
bats and not get into trouble. So does it really help.
We will see when it's written. And at the very least,
I'd like to see a good robust law that enables
shopkeepers to be able to stop customers leaving shops with
stuff in their bag. You may remember the well known
criminal Goalri's garment got away with refusing a bag check.
I hope that sort of thing stops. But so far
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the citizens arrest law is I hate to say it,
here comes that phrase. It's a bit of an announcement
of an announcement and it needs a lot more work.
Andrew Dickens, So another artist has canceled their tours in
museum will tell you more about that. I'm I want
to talk to you about Tamatatini. We're going to America.
A bit later on a group of civil servants are
rebelling against Elon Musk And before six we'll talk to
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retail about the wall.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property
Search and symbol You talk SI me one got see
one more time?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Idol?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How if I was taken hold?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh, good morning to you, Welcome back to the program.
The man mumbling the song is a man known as Drake.
Drake is the guy accused of being a pedophile by
Kendrick Lamar in a big hit single and also at
the Super Bowl. Drake is due to hold back to
back shows at Spark Arena in Uklands Saturday March fifteenth
and Sunday March sixteenth. Drake has told fans, oh, I
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can't make it. I've got a scheduling conflict. Two weeks
out from the concert. People have booked tickets from all
around New Zealand to fly and planes to get up
to this concert. People in Auckland have bought very expensive
tickets as well. They're waiting for it. This is becoming
a little bit too familiar. But at the same time
this is all on Drake. Drake hates New Zealand. There
(18:30):
I said it, hey and more entertainment news. All online
tickets for the final day of Tamatatini Festival have sold out.
There will be no gate sales available. This is the
big kapahaka thing happening in Taiwanaki. The bowl of Brooklyn's
and New Plymouth, where the festival is being held, holds
fifteen thousand people. It is full. You can still see
it on TV, Mardi TV and TV and Z two
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and online MARLDI plus and TV and Z plus and
around the country. The festival is bringing ewe together in
the hometowns. Nati Fatu is hosting fan zones in Auckland,
dudes and performances and you can watch the event on
a big screen. This thing is going off right absolutely
fall on Saturday. I don't know if you've ever been
to it, to Matatini. I've been to one. It's astounding.
Nikola Wurs went to this one and came out raving
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about the whole thing and said this thing should go global.
So make it one of your resolutions in the future.
When to Matatini comes near, you have a crack and
well done to the organizers. It is our twenty two
to six dickades around the country. We go Callen Procter
joins us Fromdunedin. How THEO callum warning Andrew. So the
trial continues for our fourteen year old accused of murder.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Ye look, this trial began yesterday here in Dunedin's High Court.
Sixteen year old and Nardie maclan McLaren tanner excuse me,
died of a single stab wound at the Great King
Street bus hub here last May. The boy accused Whati's
thirteen at the time. He's fourteen. Now He's pleaded not
guilty to his murder. He says he was acting in
self defense so used today on the first day of
(19:56):
the Crown prosecutors says that McLaren Tannah told the boy
to pull his socks down and made a derogatory remark
while walking past them. He says the boy pulled the finger,
yelled back and then swung a kitchen knife at McLaren Taner.
A CCTV footage of the stabbing was shown to the
jury yesterday. The trials set down for.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Three weeks horrific. How's your weather?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
It's mostly fine in twenty one today thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Calum Claire Sherwood from Christiach Hello, Hello, you can get
back into the Christchurch Cathedral.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
Yes again, Andrew Look, Cantabrian's will have the opportunity to
spend some time within our cathedral, despite of course, the
restoration works officially at a standstill. News talk s head
Beacon today reveal the Reinstatement Group has been issued another
certificate of public use.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
For this year.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
That will mean that they can continue to host some
short term visits inside the building, which is now stabilized.
These visits will be under a very strict health and
safety management plan that includes some public tours that they're
planning as part of our Open christ Church Festival which
happens here in May. Chairman of the RST Statement Group,
Mark Stewart has also said that the keeping restoration funding
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conversations alive with various different parties despite a reduction to
one point eight full time equivalent staff.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now, if you're out and about today, how's the weather,
I'm a bit cloudy around here.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Easterly is developing a high of twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And I thank you, Max told, joins us from Wellington, halimex,
good morning. Bus fares are on the rise. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Bus rides in the city could be about to get
more expensive, particularly at off peak times, quite significantly as well.
The Regional Council today to decide whether to take off
peak adult fairs from two dollars twenty two to three
dollars seventeen around the city, boosting child fairs by forty
three percent as well in off peak times to a
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dollar sixty a. Peak fairs also expected to rise by
but not by nearly as much. We're talking cents rather
than dollars. Why inflation cost pressures the usual from Metlink,
Regional Council's Transports Thomas Nash, also blaming reduced government funding.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Sah, that's a big word. How's you wear that? Four letters?
Speaker 10 (22:10):
But mostly fine after a cloudy starts some scattered drizzle
further north. Mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Never read about who, joins us from Walkanhella. Never our readings.
So which councilors are going for reelection and who aren't?
Speaker 11 (22:23):
Yes, let's talk about local elections.
Speaker 12 (22:24):
So what we do know?
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Andrew five Auckland councilors they're going to be running in
this year's local elections. One is ruled out running others.
They're keeping pretty tight lived about it. So news talks,
he'd be asked every sitting counselor what are your plans?
What are you going to do this year?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So what we do know?
Speaker 11 (22:39):
Morris Williamson, Julie Ferry, Andy Baker, Shane Henderson can turn
it now.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
They're all having a go.
Speaker 11 (22:45):
Angela Dalton, she's the only counselor who was ruled out
run Mike Lee Desley Simpson there yet to make a decision,
and as we well know, faux ward counselor that's Karen Leone.
She's focusing all her efforts. This is on her mirror run.
So the remaining councilors they didn't respond before deadline.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Right now, how's the weather?
Speaker 11 (23:05):
The weather well partly cloudy, isolated, Charles clearing becoming fine,
another muggy one twenty five the high and.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
No thank you, I thank you. It is now eighteen
minutes to six. Were off to America in just a
few moments time with our correspondent Mitch here's the story
out of America. They saw a bruise on Donald Trump's
hand and everyone said, ah, he might be unwell. Was
it an IV mark? This was all noticed during a
recent meeting with Emmanuel Macron, the French President. The White
House though, has said it's a result of handshaking, and
(23:33):
as spokespeople have taken on his habit of aggrandizing, and
they claim that President Trump has shaken more hands than
any other president in history, and that's probably true. So
Mitch mccanner's next, as we talk America here on News
Talks here b it's seventeen to.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Six international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So I think it's probably true that President Trump has
shaken more hands than any other president in history in
that period of time, that initial time. Now the Texas
says President Trump has probably signed more documents than any
other president, and that might be true as well. Let's
go to America. Mitch McCann, good morning to you. Andrew,
Good morning, how are you good. We have a group
of civil servants who are rebelling against Elon Musk and Doge. Yeah,
(24:16):
that's right.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
Elon Musk this morning is actually joining Donald Trump and
the White House Cabinet for the first photo op of
the year. That's despite Elon Musk not even being a
member of the cabinet. And it comes and been more
scrutiny over his role in the government and this Department
of Government Efficiency known as DOGE. Now, this is the
group spearheading the mass layoffs of tens of thousands of
(24:38):
government workers. Now twenty one government workers, mostly IT and
computer specialists have now resigned in protest started their jobs
were folded into the department. They'll pin this open letter
refusing to quote use the technical expertise to compromise core
government systems and jepandize American sensitive data. And right down
(24:59):
here in the US, a huge amount of scrutiny being
leveled at Elon Musk over what role he's actually playing
in the government, how much sensitive data he has access to,
and whether or not all these layoffs are actually justified.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
All right, have we got measles in Texas?
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Yeah, that's right. This is the first death being reported
now after an outbreak of measles that started late last
month in rural Texas. The outbreak in West Texas has
grown to one hundred and twenty four cases across nine counties,
and there are nine cases in New Mexico as well.
And we found this interesting. One of the counties with
eighty cases has one of the highest rates of school
(25:35):
age children who have opted outs of one of the
required vaccines. So a story to watch there in Texas.
And just some breaking news I'm seeing now, Andrew. This
US Russia meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin is
reportedly going to take place on the twenty seventh or
in the coming days in Istanbul. So that's somebody keep
(25:57):
an eye in as well, these negotiations to see how
this peace steal is going to happen in Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Great stuff mentioned, and I thank you so much at
stan Bull consent to Nople. This song just just leaped
into my head. Further US news, by the way, President
Trump has announced a gold card visa program. Sound familiar.
You'll get your gold card visa if you willing to
pay about five million dollars. He said, anyone can go
for it. As long as they're wealthy, they're going to
be welcomed. He was asked about Russian oligarchs, he said,
(26:24):
I know some very nice ones. It is twelve to
six Andrew Dickens, all Right, the big story yesterday was
the announcement of citizens arrests, and we thought retailers would
love them, but a lot of retailers came out and
they did not seem to be on board with the
government's proposed changes to the citizen arrest laws. You can
still do it now, but it's pretty pretty difficult. And
now the new proposal is to allow citizens to intervene
(26:46):
and stop any crimes act offense at any time of
the day and allowing them to detain alleged offenders and
to use restraints. So retailers that came out yesterday and
they we're concerned that this will end up actually increasing
crime and putting staff at risk. As I'm joined now
by Retail New Zealand chief executive Carolyn Young.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Hello, Carolyn, Well, Emma, how are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'm very well. What's your problem with it?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Look, the challenge with this is that retailers are not
trained to deal with law enforcement issues, which is what
we're talking about. When you've most well, any training that
you never see around retail from specialist training providers are
always talking about how you remain calm. You don't. You
(27:30):
don't engage in with inwardly with the alleged defenders in
your store. You don't physically engage with them. You keep
a safe distance. You try and get nails the store
as soon as possible. What retailers want to be able
to do is to be able to legally be able
to ask to get the stop back. All of our
members have told us they don't want to be able
(27:51):
to do that in a physical way. They want to
be able to get people out of their premises and
they want to be able to trespass them with the
law that's got some teeth in it, so that they
be able to return to their store again and create harm.
Actually physically engaging with something, it's not something that retailers do.
You know, it's an extremely dangerous thing. You don't know.
Is somebody on medication? Are they on drugs? Do they
(28:14):
have a hidden weapon. A lot of retail workers are
quite young. You know a lot of people that work
on shop floors. Many of us have had our first
jobs in retail. You don't have the life experience or
the knowledge around how you want to engage in that
sort of space, and we fear that it will create
a situation where if an offender thinks that they might
(28:36):
be a physically approached and restraint, that they will come
and armed with more expansive weapons. We'll see more knives
or their guns, all of those sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
But this is really actually I caught it an announcement
of an announcement, because this is an announcement of a proposal.
It was there needed to be a lot more clarification
about what is meant by detaining and what is meant
by using restraints, in fact, what is meant by the
entire law. So obviously it's going to Select Committee. Obviously
it's going to be debated, So you're going to have
the opportunity to go there and eyeball Justice Minister Paul
Goldsmith and make these changes, aren't you.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
We'll certainly be making a strong submission about this, and
we know that in legislation and case or already there's
you know, it's already defined what reasonable force looks like.
And when you're talking about restraints, we know that they're
talking about mechanical restraints, so you're talking about handcuffs and
or something like cable ties and things like that. So
(29:33):
you know, we know a lot about what they're already
talking about, and you know, retail just isn't set up
to be detaining offenders in store.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, and one of the parties that came out and
weren't full bore into it was supermarkets, which we everyone
was a bit surprised at because we've all seen people
waltz out of supermarkets with stuff. But as they said,
they've already got their security guards, they've already got all
the same concerns that you have about the whole process.
So you know, the point is, shouldn't retailers be working
(30:06):
together to actually sort themselves out without the help of
the government.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
So we are absolutely working together around what we need
to do to prevent retail crime, and our focus is
on prevention and keeping people safe. Every business has to
comply to the health and safety regulations, and if you're
putting staff potentially in harm's way by having to engage
with an alleged defender in store, then you're not going
to be able to comply with health and safety regulation.
(30:30):
So you're going to be in lots of trouble with
the Labor Department. So, you know, preventive measures like facial
recognition technology where you can. You're identifying prior offenders in
your store and ensuring that they don't come in store.
Really ways to keep staff and customers safe. We know
that in retail and specifically if you're thinking about social markets,
(30:52):
between thirty five and fifty percenters offenders are recipibus offenders,
so they're coming back time and time again. Facial recognition
and stop them coming in the door. So the goose
of technology moving forward, it's really important.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Carolyn, I thank you so much. Carolyn Young is the
Retail New Zealand chief executive and yes she does have
a mandate to speak on behalf of retailers. And a
textas says, the minister clearly said yesterday the citizen arrest
law was for dairy owners. Yes, but there was no
detail on how it would actually work. And he said that,
he said we're about to talk about this, so we're
talking about it. It is now seven minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and one Room to make your property search simple. News talks,
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Speaker 3 (31:33):
Five to six. Thank you for a text. Ninety two
ninety two small charge applies. Steve says, these new self
defense laws are great. This retail spokesperson is being hysterical.
Most shop listeners can be detained. I've seen it. I've
detained them myself. I'm trained in jiu jitsu and I
don't have a problem doing it. Well done, Steve, and
you're right you can make a citizen's arrest right now.
But it's legally fraught. And of course I'm glad that
(31:54):
you know that about the laws because as I understand
it as a proposal and the laws are well long
way from being fine. Eyes mean, while Liam Lawson's driving
quite fast. Make yeah it's spun, but most of them
have Antonelli. Interestingly enough, and there's the name you want
to watch this year. He's posted the fastest time so far.
The big news is they had a power cut so
(32:15):
they got an extended period of time. This is day
one to BEF one testing. So Aston Martin's got problems.
Lewis had some problems, but he seems he's got all
of tomorrow. He's going to be in the cow all
of tomorrow, so to get some laps. He's there or
there about. But that Antonelli feller, you know, they were
talking about him actually getting up into the big ranks
before Liam last year. So you know, this is all
(32:35):
very interesting. Hey, and the Herald reckons that the Warriors
are going to come second to last.
Speaker 13 (32:41):
The well, that's the Morning Herald in Sydney and they've
got them with seven wins for the whole season and
they've gone through it's worth reading in the sense they've
gone through each and every round and said here is
where we're going to lose and why we're going to lose.
And so basically what they're saying is we know better
now than we were last year.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm sorry, no, no, no.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
The good news is they're.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Wrong because it's our year. Because it is our year.
Speaker 13 (33:08):
And funnily enough, we've got Andrew Webster on the program
in Vegas after eight o'clock this morning, who I'm pretty
sure is going to confirm indeed, why aren't you there?
Speaker 10 (33:16):
It is our year?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know what?
Speaker 13 (33:19):
Well, one, because I've got a job, but team more importantly,
I think it's a distraction.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I wouldn't I will ask you for Vegas, baby. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
There's a lot If you're a young Warrior, you know
you're concentrating on the game, are you're having a good time?
And so that would be a real thing for a coach.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
He's with this after a very good stuff. My name
is Andrew Dickons like to thank I might producer ken
Zy and they set up staff. He worked late last
night and I'll be back again tomorrow and have yourself
a great day.
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
Good morning to you, Welcome to the program. Thank you
for choosing us today. Over the next sixty minutes, international
tourist spending has returned to pre COVID levels, but tourism
domestically has dipped. This is according to the latest figures
out of Stats New Zealand. And we're going to talk
to the tourism industry next when Simpeter's has met with
high ranking officials in China. So what is in play?
(00:34):
Andrew Little will be talking to us in ten minutes
time to Matatini has going off and Nicola Willis thinks
it could go global. So how successful has this Kappahaka
festival been? And the power of citizens arrest is not
going down as well as expected with retail, so what
are they worried about. We'll talk about this just before six.
We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand and around
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the world. We're going to America today and news as
it breaks. Plus you can say whatever you like about
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Speaker 1 (01:12):
Five the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's Thursday, the twenty seventh of February. Ukraine's President Voladimiya
Zelensky has confirmed the United States has given no security
guarantees yet in the proposed mineral deals. Zelensky heads to
the White House this week. He's expected to sign the deal,
but he says it's more of a framework.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I really asked for at least an understanding that we
see this as far of future security guarantees. Therefore, even
in the framework agreement, I really wanted at least a
sentence to appear the guarantees of Ukraine's security, and the
government officials briefed me it has appeared.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Meanwhile, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has rejected calls for
European peacekeepers to be deployed on Ukrainian soil under the
terms of any peace deal to end the war, and
that you know, might just be a deal breaker. BP
has announced it's going to cut its renewable energy investments
and instead focus on increasing oil and gas production. The
(02:16):
move has been announced after pressure from some investors unhappy
that its profits and share price have been lower than
its rivals. To Australia, where a top radio presenter has
left nationwide radio station Triple M after making comments about
the country's women's football team they called the Matilda's. Marty
Schergeld said on air the players reminded him of Year
(02:36):
ten girls. It implied that their matches were boring.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
These comments reflect offensive and outdated ideas about women's football.
They are degrading and demeaning to every woman and girl
who wants to be treated as an equal participant in
society and in sport.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And finally, Donald Trump has shared his vision for the
future of the Gaza Strip in an AI video. It
includes skyscrapers, golden statues of Trump, and dollar bills raining
down upon the children there. And this is the jingle
he used, shame Right, Golden Future, Life the Diner to one. Okay,
(03:17):
it is ten out to five.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
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Youth Talk said.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Be here's a truism about being a human. Human civilization
is built on energy. The taming of fire and then
the development of controlled energy release is what pushed on
our progress since the Stone Age when they first set
up a fire and roasted a wilderbeast. Food and water
are important, but without energy, we can't sustain the incredible
(03:50):
human population growth of the last two hundred years and
the cities we have built. So with everything that's going
on around us in New Zealand and our day to
day chatter, it's important to remember that we sit in
an ongoing and long lasting energy crisis. So we know
that eighty five percent of our energy comes from renewables
that's fired on by wind and water, and that's unreliable. Yesterday,
(04:12):
Meridian Energy announced a one hundred and twenty one million
dollar loss caused by last winter's power shortages caused by
empty hydro lakes, and in announcing the result, the CEO
said the company took a hit for New Zealand to
keep us powered up so we can keep making some money.
That's why Genesis Energy announced last week they're importing a
(04:33):
million tons of coal as backup. Today, farmers are being
worn that a late summer drought is imminent. Yes, it's
rained this summer, but the wind has blown drying out
the country. You can see it in your lawn and
Tahlanaki seminars are already being held to prepare farmers for
what has been called a one and fifty year event.
So it's dry, and it's continuing to be dry, and
(04:55):
so the chances of another power crisis this winter are
very high. So for any green minded folk out there,
I need to tell you that the possibility of reducing
our dependence on fossil fuel is a fantasy. Until humankind
invents an energy source that is independent of the rain
and the wind and the sun, we will be constrained
in our ability to grow, no matter what we say
(05:17):
about productivity or economic growth. And can I just say
that is not pessimism, that is the reality of where
we are twelve after five. I've been loathed to criticize
the school lunch program, but come on, Lincoln Heights has
had but a chicken for eleven days out of seventeen.
Just imagine it, not but a chicken again. It was
(05:41):
day nine a Pitipit lunches for Massy Primary School in
West Aukland yesterday, So in an ideal world, we wouldn't
need school lunches. But this is not an ideal world.
School lunches are a staple in England. They were developed
in post war austerity, when basic nutrition was poor the
kids had to be fed. The fact that we believed
we need school lunches in the first place was evidence
(06:02):
of how far we've slipped in terms of caring for
our kids. For whatever reason, we've ended out with people
who can have kids but can't afford to feed them.
So school lunches became a thing. And then David Seymour
thought he could make them better by making them cheaper
by centralizing the production. Can I just note the irony
of that centralizing of production is a bit of a
(06:25):
socialist thing, but it came from David Seymour. But he
promised that his school lunch program would be as good
and probably better. Well it isn't. And that's it. Five
point thirteen. So the tourists are back, good news, but
do they come with a headache. We're going to talk
about the tourism numbers that are starting to pick up
again with a tourism holding CEO grant website. He's with
(06:48):
us in just a few moments time here on News
Talks AB Andrew.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Dickens on early edition with one roof to make your
Property search simple Youth Talk.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Zib it is sixteen minutes up to five and finally
some good news for the tourism sector. The tourists are
back and they're spending the big BIS. New data shows
that international tourism expenditure was up fifty nine point nine percent.
They spent sixteen point nine billion dollars in New Zealand.
To give you some sort of comparison, in twenty nineteen,
it was seventeen point two billion, so it's pretty much
(07:18):
back there. The numbers are promising and Tourism Holding CEO
Grant Webster joins me. Now, good morning to your grants.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So finally it's happened. What's causing the increase?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Ah, this was the way it's going to happen. You know,
it's in our DNA on a global basis that we
want to get out and about and visit the world.
So people look at the opportunity and New Zealand to
an attractive destination. So that coming.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So why is domestic tourism down?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh, that's that's just a somewhat be the economy, but
it's the growth and outbound as well. So just like
people want to come here, is the number of New
Zealanders want to get back out overseas. So that's understandable.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So how is the tourism industry reacting because there's a
surge of people.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, look, I mean there's something like a fifteen percent
increase in the number of tourism businesses in that satellite
account information that came out yesterday as well. That's great.
So we're actually attracting more employment. People are seeing as
an opportunity to start their own business, and so I
think the industry is responding really really well. It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Okay. Now, Queenstown civic officials were in the news yesterday.
They're unhappy that the country has moved from high wealth tourists,
which was the labor thing, to what seems to be
mass tourism. Anyone who wants to come here, come on,
everyone must go. They say that approach is unsustainable without
a big infrastructure spend. Do they have a point.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I think that it's a very small point that's relative
to a few locations at a very short time of
the year. Now, the reality is New Zealand's expensive. You know,
our total visitor numbers haven't got back to pre COVID,
but as you said in your opening, we're very close
to total spend, so we're in a spen of destination.
We're already getting high value tourists. That's who comes. People
(09:04):
who sort of masterism go to different destinations that are
a lot cheaper. So we're alway getting high value tourists.
And we've got plenty of infrastructure throughout the country that
can sustain really good growth for a number of years
to come. So maybe there's some places at peak times
of the year that need some support and that will come.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That'll come, okay, So what is the industry doing to
support this trend of improvement continuing? And how do you
feel about everyone must go?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So look, it's great to have any kind of campaign
that's going to support the winter tourism business, and that's
what that campaign's targeting. Australia's coming here over the next
short period. We've been breafed of a good event strategy
for some time, so we haven't had any big events
since over winter, since the FIFA World Cup, so I
(09:55):
think that's all goods let's go the tagline. Some people
love it, some people don't by to buy the pointers.
We're out there and we're asking for business, and so
I think the industry's in behind touris in New Zealand
and wants to see them do well.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Grab we episode. I thank you for your time today.
Granted is the CEO of Tourism Holdings. G has just
sent me a text and said down in hockey Ticket
at the moment, working man, the places going off people everywhere.
All motels are full and have been all weakened by
the way. The weather's been really great on the West
coast as well. So this is good news. Are the
texts that have arrived. Oh, for goodness sake, we had
sandwiches every day in our school lunches for years, made
(10:30):
by our mother. Beggars can't be choosers. And that's a
comment I guess about the eleven days of butter chicken
in a row? And when does this restraining law come
into effect? This is the citizens arresting. It will help
supermarkets a lot. Thank you Sarah for your text. We're
going to talk about this just before six o'clock because
retailers are not as happy as you might expect. But
(10:50):
next China, Winston is there, he's been talking to high
ranking officials. So what's on the table and what are
the risks? Andrew Little is joining us next The.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
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Speaker 3 (11:08):
Said, be hey, it's five twenty two. So Winston Peter's
met with China's Foreign minister overnight as those warships in
closer to Australia. They're well into Australia's Exclusive Economic zone
at this point. But New Zealanders and Australians are like
hopeful that Winston has had some words with Chinese officials.
But to give us some sort of insight about what's
happening at that level, I'm joined by former Defense Minister
(11:30):
Andrew Little from the Labor Party.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Hello Andrew, good morning.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
So what are the rules around being in an exclusive
economic zone?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Well, as long as they as long as you're in
international waters and you obeying the rules under the United
Nation's Convention on the Law of the Sea, then that's
all fine. They and that's what China is doing. But
there's no question why they are down here and they're
live firing, and all the rest of it is they
(12:01):
are projecting and making it very care to Australia and
New Zealand and no doubt the rest of the pacifics
that they are capable of doing this, that they have
vessels that can come the far and this is about
projecting their military strength that they have at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Power projection. This is true. How close can the steps
get before they've overstepped.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Once around then the twelve mile zone of twelve miles
or four Then at that point it's expected that there
would be permission and that would be that would be
properly notified in a way That hasn't happened so far.
But at the moment, every indication is that they are
(12:42):
observing the law of the sea. And all we can
already do is observe at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Okay, So, Wissa Peter's met with Wang Yi, who's China's
foreign minister, last night. We've all seen the releases. You've
been a defense minister. Can you read between the lines
and tell us how successful that meeting was or not.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Yeah, I saw the statement they've released and they've reported
those recorded the issues that were raised. That's the way
these things happen, that the statements tend to be pretty
bland and very polite and all the rest of it.
But I think we can be assured that the issues
were raised, and I expect that mister Peters, as a
long serving foreign minister, done it many times, and who
(13:25):
knows when he would have been pretty forceful I expect
and his representations about that. The way you deal with China,
to make your point is, you know, what you say
behind closed doors in the room is one thing. The
way you talk about what you said afterwards is a
different thing. That's just the way you keep face with China.
(13:47):
That has more of an impact than sort that the
megaphone diplomacy that we've seen in another case, Well, you're.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Talking about megaphone diplomacy. Acting Prime Minister David Seymour yesterday
had some fairly harsh words for China, and there is
there really a risk in using strong language and domestic
media to define our position, just trying to really take offense.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
I mean, China will understand that, you know, politicians of
whatever country, but here in your zin need to speak
to a domestic audience and we'll say those things. I think, however,
they will also expect that when there is a bilateral
dialogue such as the one that Features has been in,
that issues will be raised and it's that's the forum
(14:27):
to have the argument about it. And I think the
I mean, I think the other thing about dealing with
China is understanding that the relationship with China is multi dimensional.
So there is you know, there's the trade relationship, which
is really positive, but there's also what they do and
how they relate to other countries, particularly in our region,
so that isn't protected positive and that's that's we We
(14:50):
just have to navigate that style of relationship with China.
But having having the dialogue is important. Raising INFUSA is important,
but China will understand that politicians have to speak to
a domestic audience as well.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Hekay, Andrew Little and I thank you so much for
your expertise. Andrew is the former Defense Minister and has
talked to China before. And it's now five twenty six.
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Ryan Bridge. Thank you for choosing us. It is five
twenty eight. So the power of citizens arrest was all
the talk yesterday and I think we all agree that
poor old dairy owners and small retailers who watch rat
bags nicking their stuff need the ability to be able
to detain the thieves. But the announcement came without many details.
The Justice Minister, Paul Goldsworth says the changes will expand
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a person's ability to detain someone committing a crime to
any time of the day and over any stolen goods.
So what we've got at the moment citizens arrest can
be made right now, but it can't be made outside
the hours of nine pm to six am unless the
goods being stolen are worth at least one thousand dollars.
And you can make your citizens arrest, but you need
to know your law. You need to know whether the
(15:57):
crime committed is going to attract a custody or sentence
more than three years, and you need to know the
legal definition of reasonable. So when appearing on Ryan Bridges
Show last night, the Minister stammered and under and art
and then stressed it's only a proposal, and he seemed
vague on the rules of engagement, which is what we
all wanted and that is critical information. In other interviews yesterday,
(16:18):
the minister also said the courts will provide guidance as
to the boundaries of the law. So in other words,
he's saying, have a crack and if it all goes
horribly wrong and the shopkeeper ends out in court, well
we'll figure out the rules better. No wonder. Many in
retail say it will change nothing. It is a big
risk taking on a criminal. You'll probably discover they're much
more at home with violence than you are. Already, though,
(16:40):
we've seen shopkeepers defend their shop from robbers with softball
bats and not get into trouble. So does it really help.
We will see when it's written. And at the very least,
I'd like to see a good robust law that enables
shopkeepers to be able to stop customers leaving shops with
stuff in their bag. You may remember the well known
criminal Goalri's garment got away with refusing a bag check.
I hope that sort of thing stops. But so far
(17:01):
the citizens arrest law is I hate to say it,
here comes that phrase. It's a bit of an announcement
of an announcement and it needs a lot more work.
Andrew Dickens, So another artist has canceled their tours in
museum will tell you more about that. I'm I want
to talk to you about Tamatatini. We're going to America.
A bit later on a group of civil servants are
rebelling against Elon Musk And before six we'll talk to
(17:24):
retail about the wall.
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The first word on the News of the Day Early
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Oh, good morning to you, Welcome back to the program.
The man mumbling the song is a man known as Drake.
Drake is the guy accused of being a pedophile by
Kendrick Lamar in a big hit single and also at
the Super Bowl. Drake is due to hold back to
back shows at Spark Arena in Uklands Saturday March fifteenth
and Sunday March sixteenth. Drake has told fans, oh, I
(18:08):
can't make it. I've got a scheduling conflict. Two weeks
out from the concert. People have booked tickets from all
around New Zealand to fly and planes to get up
to this concert. People in Auckland have bought very expensive
tickets as well. They're waiting for it. This is becoming
a little bit too familiar. But at the same time
this is all on Drake. Drake hates New Zealand. There
(18:30):
I said it, hey and more entertainment news. All online
tickets for the final day of Tamatatini Festival have sold out.
There will be no gate sales available. This is the
big kapahaka thing happening in Taiwanaki. The bowl of Brooklyn's
and New Plymouth, where the festival is being held, holds
fifteen thousand people. It is full. You can still see
it on TV, Mardi TV and TV and Z two
(18:51):
and online MARLDI plus and TV and Z plus and
around the country. The festival is bringing ewe together in
the hometowns. Nati Fatu is hosting fan zones in Auckland,
dudes and performances and you can watch the event on
a big screen. This thing is going off right absolutely
fall on Saturday. I don't know if you've ever been
to it, to Matatini. I've been to one. It's astounding.
Nikola Wurs went to this one and came out raving
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about the whole thing and said this thing should go global.
So make it one of your resolutions in the future.
When to Matatini comes near, you have a crack and
well done to the organizers. It is our twenty two
to six dickades around the country. We go Callen Procter
joins us Fromdunedin. How THEO callum warning Andrew. So the
trial continues for our fourteen year old accused of murder.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Ye look, this trial began yesterday here in Dunedin's High Court.
Sixteen year old and Nardie maclan McLaren tanner excuse me,
died of a single stab wound at the Great King
Street bus hub here last May. The boy accused Whati's
thirteen at the time. He's fourteen. Now He's pleaded not
guilty to his murder. He says he was acting in
self defense so used today on the first day of
(19:56):
the Crown prosecutors says that McLaren Tannah told the boy
to pull his socks down and made a derogatory remark
while walking past them. He says the boy pulled the finger,
yelled back and then swung a kitchen knife at McLaren Taner.
A CCTV footage of the stabbing was shown to the
jury yesterday. The trials set down for.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Three weeks horrific. How's your weather?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
It's mostly fine in twenty one today thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Calum Claire Sherwood from Christiach Hello, Hello, you can get
back into the Christchurch Cathedral.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
Yes again, Andrew Look, Cantabrian's will have the opportunity to
spend some time within our cathedral, despite of course, the
restoration works officially at a standstill. News talk s head
Beacon today reveal the Reinstatement Group has been issued another
certificate of public use.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
For this year.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
That will mean that they can continue to host some
short term visits inside the building, which is now stabilized.
These visits will be under a very strict health and
safety management plan that includes some public tours that they're
planning as part of our Open christ Church Festival which
happens here in May. Chairman of the RST Statement Group,
Mark Stewart has also said that the keeping restoration funding
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conversations alive with various different parties despite a reduction to
one point eight full time equivalent staff.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now, if you're out and about today, how's the weather,
I'm a bit cloudy around here.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Easterly is developing a high of twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And I thank you, Max told, joins us from Wellington, halimex,
good morning. Bus fares are on the rise. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Bus rides in the city could be about to get
more expensive, particularly at off peak times, quite significantly as well.
The Regional Council today to decide whether to take off
peak adult fairs from two dollars twenty two to three
dollars seventeen around the city, boosting child fairs by forty
three percent as well in off peak times to a
(21:47):
dollar sixty a. Peak fairs also expected to rise by
but not by nearly as much. We're talking cents rather
than dollars. Why inflation cost pressures the usual from Metlink,
Regional Council's Transports Thomas Nash, also blaming reduced government funding.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Sah, that's a big word. How's you wear that? Four letters?
Speaker 10 (22:10):
But mostly fine after a cloudy starts some scattered drizzle
further north. Mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Never read about who, joins us from Walkanhella. Never our readings.
So which councilors are going for reelection and who aren't?
Speaker 11 (22:23):
Yes, let's talk about local elections.
Speaker 12 (22:24):
So what we do know?
Speaker 11 (22:25):
Andrew five Auckland councilors they're going to be running in
this year's local elections. One is ruled out running others.
They're keeping pretty tight lived about it. So news talks,
he'd be asked every sitting counselor what are your plans?
What are you going to do this year?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So what we do know?
Speaker 11 (22:39):
Morris Williamson, Julie Ferry, Andy Baker, Shane Henderson can turn
it now.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
They're all having a go.
Speaker 11 (22:45):
Angela Dalton, she's the only counselor who was ruled out
run Mike Lee Desley Simpson there yet to make a decision,
and as we well know, faux ward counselor that's Karen Leone.
She's focusing all her efforts. This is on her mirror run.
So the remaining councilors they didn't respond before deadline.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Right now, how's the weather?
Speaker 11 (23:05):
The weather well partly cloudy, isolated, Charles clearing becoming fine,
another muggy one twenty five the high and.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
No thank you, I thank you. It is now eighteen
minutes to six. Were off to America in just a
few moments time with our correspondent Mitch here's the story
out of America. They saw a bruise on Donald Trump's
hand and everyone said, ah, he might be unwell. Was
it an IV mark? This was all noticed during a
recent meeting with Emmanuel Macron, the French President. The White
House though, has said it's a result of handshaking, and
(23:33):
as spokespeople have taken on his habit of aggrandizing, and
they claim that President Trump has shaken more hands than
any other president in history, and that's probably true. So
Mitch mccanner's next, as we talk America here on News
Talks here b it's seventeen to.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Six international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So I think it's probably true that President Trump has
shaken more hands than any other president in history in
that period of time, that initial time. Now the Texas
says President Trump has probably signed more documents than any
other president, and that might be true as well. Let's
go to America. Mitch McCann, good morning to you. Andrew,
Good morning, how are you good. We have a group
of civil servants who are rebelling against Elon Musk and Doge. Yeah,
(24:16):
that's right.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
Elon Musk this morning is actually joining Donald Trump and
the White House Cabinet for the first photo op of
the year. That's despite Elon Musk not even being a
member of the cabinet. And it comes and been more
scrutiny over his role in the government and this Department
of Government Efficiency known as DOGE. Now, this is the
group spearheading the mass layoffs of tens of thousands of
(24:38):
government workers. Now twenty one government workers, mostly IT and
computer specialists have now resigned in protest started their jobs
were folded into the department. They'll pin this open letter
refusing to quote use the technical expertise to compromise core
government systems and jepandize American sensitive data. And right down
(24:59):
here in the US, a huge amount of scrutiny being
leveled at Elon Musk over what role he's actually playing
in the government, how much sensitive data he has access to,
and whether or not all these layoffs are actually justified.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
All right, have we got measles in Texas?
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Yeah, that's right. This is the first death being reported
now after an outbreak of measles that started late last
month in rural Texas. The outbreak in West Texas has
grown to one hundred and twenty four cases across nine counties,
and there are nine cases in New Mexico as well.
And we found this interesting. One of the counties with
eighty cases has one of the highest rates of school
(25:35):
age children who have opted outs of one of the
required vaccines. So a story to watch there in Texas.
And just some breaking news I'm seeing now, Andrew. This
US Russia meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin is
reportedly going to take place on the twenty seventh or
in the coming days in Istanbul. So that's somebody keep
(25:57):
an eye in as well, these negotiations to see how
this peace steal is going to happen in Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Great stuff mentioned, and I thank you so much at
stan Bull consent to Nople. This song just just leaped
into my head. Further US news, by the way, President
Trump has announced a gold card visa program. Sound familiar.
You'll get your gold card visa if you willing to
pay about five million dollars. He said, anyone can go
for it. As long as they're wealthy, they're going to
be welcomed. He was asked about Russian oligarchs, he said,
(26:24):
I know some very nice ones. It is twelve to
six Andrew Dickens, all Right, the big story yesterday was
the announcement of citizens arrests, and we thought retailers would
love them, but a lot of retailers came out and
they did not seem to be on board with the
government's proposed changes to the citizen arrest laws. You can
still do it now, but it's pretty pretty difficult. And
now the new proposal is to allow citizens to intervene
(26:46):
and stop any crimes act offense at any time of
the day and allowing them to detain alleged offenders and
to use restraints. So retailers that came out yesterday and
they we're concerned that this will end up actually increasing
crime and putting staff at risk. As I'm joined now
by Retail New Zealand chief executive Carolyn Young.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Hello, Carolyn, Well, Emma, how are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I'm very well. What's your problem with it?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Look, the challenge with this is that retailers are not
trained to deal with law enforcement issues, which is what
we're talking about. When you've most well, any training that
you never see around retail from specialist training providers are
always talking about how you remain calm. You don't. You
(27:30):
don't engage in with inwardly with the alleged defenders in
your store. You don't physically engage with them. You keep
a safe distance. You try and get nails the store
as soon as possible. What retailers want to be able
to do is to be able to legally be able
to ask to get the stop back. All of our
members have told us they don't want to be able
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to do that in a physical way. They want to
be able to get people out of their premises and
they want to be able to trespass them with the
law that's got some teeth in it, so that they
be able to return to their store again and create harm.
Actually physically engaging with something, it's not something that retailers do.
You know, it's an extremely dangerous thing. You don't know.
Is somebody on medication? Are they on drugs? Do they
(28:14):
have a hidden weapon. A lot of retail workers are
quite young. You know a lot of people that work
on shop floors. Many of us have had our first
jobs in retail. You don't have the life experience or
the knowledge around how you want to engage in that
sort of space, and we fear that it will create
a situation where if an offender thinks that they might
(28:36):
be a physically approached and restraint, that they will come
and armed with more expansive weapons. We'll see more knives
or their guns, all of those sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
But this is really actually I caught it an announcement
of an announcement, because this is an announcement of a proposal.
It was there needed to be a lot more clarification
about what is meant by detaining and what is meant
by using restraints, in fact, what is meant by the
entire law. So obviously it's going to Select Committee. Obviously
it's going to be debated, So you're going to have
the opportunity to go there and eyeball Justice Minister Paul
Goldsmith and make these changes, aren't you.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
We'll certainly be making a strong submission about this, and
we know that in legislation and case or already there's
you know, it's already defined what reasonable force looks like.
And when you're talking about restraints, we know that they're
talking about mechanical restraints, so you're talking about handcuffs and
or something like cable ties and things like that. So
(29:33):
you know, we know a lot about what they're already
talking about, and you know, retail just isn't set up
to be detaining offenders in store.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, and one of the parties that came out and
weren't full bore into it was supermarkets, which we everyone
was a bit surprised at because we've all seen people
waltz out of supermarkets with stuff. But as they said,
they've already got their security guards, they've already got all
the same concerns that you have about the whole process.
So you know, the point is, shouldn't retailers be working
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together to actually sort themselves out without the help of
the government.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
So we are absolutely working together around what we need
to do to prevent retail crime, and our focus is
on prevention and keeping people safe. Every business has to
comply to the health and safety regulations, and if you're
putting staff potentially in harm's way by having to engage
with an alleged defender in store, then you're not going
to be able to comply with health and safety regulation.
(30:30):
So you're going to be in lots of trouble with
the Labor Department. So, you know, preventive measures like facial
recognition technology where you can. You're identifying prior offenders in
your store and ensuring that they don't come in store.
Really ways to keep staff and customers safe. We know
that in retail and specifically if you're thinking about social markets,
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between thirty five and fifty percenters offenders are recipibus offenders,
so they're coming back time and time again. Facial recognition
and stop them coming in the door. So the goose
of technology moving forward, it's really important.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Carolyn, I thank you so much. Carolyn Young is the
Retail New Zealand chief executive and yes she does have
a mandate to speak on behalf of retailers. And a
textas says, the minister clearly said yesterday the citizen arrest
law was for dairy owners. Yes, but there was no
detail on how it would actually work. And he said that,
he said we're about to talk about this, so we're
talking about it. It is now seven minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and one Room to make your property search simple. News talks,
it'd be.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Five to six. Thank you for a text. Ninety two
ninety two small charge applies. Steve says, these new self
defense laws are great. This retail spokesperson is being hysterical.
Most shop listeners can be detained. I've seen it. I've
detained them myself. I'm trained in jiu jitsu and I
don't have a problem doing it. Well done, Steve, and
you're right you can make a citizen's arrest right now.
But it's legally fraught. And of course I'm glad that
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you know that about the laws because as I understand
it as a proposal and the laws are well long
way from being fine. Eyes mean, while Liam Lawson's driving
quite fast. Make yeah it's spun, but most of them
have Antonelli. Interestingly enough, and there's the name you want
to watch this year. He's posted the fastest time so far.
The big news is they had a power cut so
(32:15):
they got an extended period of time. This is day
one to BEF one testing. So Aston Martin's got problems.
Lewis had some problems, but he seems he's got all
of tomorrow. He's going to be in the cow all
of tomorrow, so to get some laps. He's there or
there about. But that Antonelli feller, you know, they were
talking about him actually getting up into the big ranks
before Liam last year. So you know, this is all
(32:35):
very interesting. Hey, and the Herald reckons that the Warriors
are going to come second to last.
Speaker 13 (32:41):
The well, that's the Morning Herald in Sydney and they've
got them with seven wins for the whole season and
they've gone through it's worth reading in the sense they've
gone through each and every round and said here is
where we're going to lose and why we're going to lose.
And so basically what they're saying is we know better
now than we were last year.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm sorry, no, no, no.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
The good news is they're.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Wrong because it's our year. Because it is our year.
Speaker 13 (33:08):
And funnily enough, we've got Andrew Webster on the program
in Vegas after eight o'clock this morning, who I'm pretty
sure is going to confirm indeed, why aren't you there?
Speaker 10 (33:16):
It is our year?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know what?
Speaker 13 (33:19):
Well, one, because I've got a job, but team more importantly,
I think it's a distraction.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I wouldn't I will ask you for Vegas, baby. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
There's a lot If you're a young Warrior, you know
you're concentrating on the game, are you're having a good time?
And so that would be a real thing for a coach.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
He's with this after a very good stuff. My name
is Andrew Dickons like to thank I might producer ken
Zy and they set up staff. He worked late last
night and I'll be back again tomorrow and have yourself
a great day.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
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