Full Show Podcast: 20 November 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like
no one else.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey, good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Coming up today, Erica Stanford on whether she's going to
ban the smart watches and schools as well. Andrew Little
on whether he will scrap the Golden Mile project in
Wellington all together. And David Seymour on why he thinks
Winston's getting ready to switch to labor.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Heather Duplicy Ellen, Okay, I've.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Got a possibly controversial view on standing up at a concert.
So I went to Metallica last night, which, by the way,
was great, and I shouldn't have bagged them as much
as I did on the show yesterday. We were in
the stands, we had some seats. There was a guy
who was a couple of rows in front of us,
and the minute that Metallica started, this guy was up
on his feet. Everybody was sitting that he was up
on his feet. He had both hands in the air,

(00:51):
he was pulling the horns, he was banging his head,
he was playing the air guitar, he was singing all
the lyrics. He was just having the best night of
his life, and him having a good tie was actually
so much fun to watch. It actually made the rest
of us have a better time as well. But the
people behind him didn't love it, so they started to
throw cans at him, and the cans were hitting him
in the back and he just ignored them. And then
a couple of ladies actually like clambered over their seats

(01:14):
whacked him on the back, told him to sit down.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
He ignored all of this, and at this point a guy.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
This has been going on for a couple of minutes,
and a guy just had enough and he got out
of his seat way behind us, walked down, leaned across
the whole bunch of chairs, gone into a verbal altercation
with the headbanger, told him off, actually tried to drag
him down into his seat physically, and this went on
until the guy finally gave up and.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Just sat down.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
But he couldn't help himself because he was having the
best night of his life. So every time another song started,
old Mate was back up on his feet, double horning
at it again, going for a few bars on the
air guitar, and then remembering he was supposed to sit down.
This carried on for a whole bunch of songs until
he eventually kind of took himself off to the side
and crammed himself into the stairwell so that he was

(01:57):
able to carry on thrashing away without de disturbing all
of the nanas behind him.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
But you could see it wasn't as.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Much fun because it was a much more cramp space
that he was having to push himself into.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Anyway, here's my take on it.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
If you are at a concert, you should be able
to stand up and have the best time of your life,
even if you have paid for a seated ticket, And
if you are behind someone who wants to get up
and dance, you are just going to, I'm sorry, have
to get up as well. It is not okay to
ask somebody at a concert to sit down the entire time.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's music.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's not a movie, and it's a mesal concert. It's
not the symphony orchestra. For God's sake. I'm with the
metal head at the gig last night. He paid good
money to have a good time. If having a good
time for him means standing up with the double horns
and the ear guitar and the head banging and all
that stuff, do it either, dup se allen.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Go on there nine two nine two. That's the text number.
Standard text fees apply.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Brace yourself because we're going from one controversial thing to
the other. We're about to talk about the F word, fluoride.
I know you've got someone in your life who this
is going to freak out. There is a long term
US study which has been published that shows that fluoridated
water does not negatively impact your brain. The researchers followed
a cohort of people who were in high school in
nineteen eighty all the way through to their sixties. Those

(03:16):
who had grown up with fluoridated water did not have
more cognitive decline than the others. Doctor Justin Waller is
a practicing dentist and with us. Now, Hi, Justin got
a right, So the settles it right, It's not bad
for your brains drink the fluoridated water.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's great.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
It's good news.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Oh okay, yes, so it does settle it is It
is not bad for your brain.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
It is not bad for your brain whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
No, but doesn't. And it's good for your cheese yep, obviously.
But doesn't settle it justin because.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Well, you know, well, that is the thing. Someone will
come up with something fluoride is blamed for absolutely everything.
Would probably blame fluoride for mullet haircuts and not getting
the lotto numbers right if they could. But at the

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end of the day, fluoride is very highly researched and
in every endeavor is to make sure that we understand
fully how it operates.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Listen, I've grown up in a family where my mum
used to buy me Did you ever get those when
you were those little white pills that were without fluoride
pills and they were supposed to make your teeth stronger. Yes,
and yes, So I have been munching fluoride my entire life,
which probably explains a lot about me to the anti
fluorid brigade. So I have, and this is without a
word of a lie, even in my forties. I have

(04:36):
no idea what the what is their problem with fluoride?

Speaker 5 (04:40):
It is it's a political philosophy. It's it's nothing to
do with the fluoride per se is a group of
people who do not like to be dictated to by
somebody somebody else, particularly governments or health authorities.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I mean, do they think it's affecting their brains.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Oh, definitely. This was an argument that was put up
at the appeal against the Hamilton City Council fluoridating the
water supply. There was a tribunal and this information was
put in front of that about some spurious information or
data that came out of China and Iran that suggested
that this was the case. But it's not the case.

(05:20):
And you know, this has been put to bed, the
cognitive of a climb and fluoridation has been put to bed.
But there'll be something else will come up. I mean,
you can be guaranteed there'll.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Be something else.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Oh, shifting of the goalposts.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, just the continuation of a pushback and without people
actually saying that they don't like it, because that's the
political ideology. They try and invent scientific reasons for saying
that we shouldn't have fluoridation.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Okay, now, question for you, why do we need it
in our water though, if we've already got it in
our toothpaste?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Because some people don't brush their teeth. Okay, that's the
plain and simple. Some people don't brush their teeth as
well as they should. They you know, it's either in
frequent or it's too quick, and it's because it's it's
simple and easy. It is as I said, there's no

(06:13):
negative health impacts to you at all, but it is
going to protect you from dental de kay, So why wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
You Okay, listen while I've got you ten months old baby,
time to start brushing teeth.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Absolutely, get them familiar with the toothbrush. Stick the toothbrush
in their mouths, but you shouldn't let them, you know,
play with the toothpaste and gobble toothpaste. Well not really,
I mean, babies like some things, but I don't think.
I mean, but Brussels sprouts are probably better than toothpaste.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Well you know that one did just gobble down the toothpaste. Actually, listen,
Justin thanks very much appreciated. Dr Justin Wall practicing dentists. Actually, incidentally,
it's not that hard to brush the teeth of a
ten month old day.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't know if you found this.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
If you've got two kids, but the first one bloody
hard to get them to do it, But the second one,
they say the first on doing it, so they want
to do it too, So breeze, shove the toothbrush and
they go for it. Heather who sits down at a
Metallica concert?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Glenn. I mean that is a good question, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Who sits down at a metallic The people behind old mate,
the head thrasher, really wanted.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
To sit down and sort of like this.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, like that that was they were going nothing else matters, yay,
you know, clapping along like a bunch of nanas. Trump
has signed the bill to release the Epstein files. This
happened a couple of hours ago, and now it happened
about two thirty this afternoon. That now means that they
will be released within the next thirty days.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
So follow your timeline on this.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
What's what's in the next thirty what's in about thirty
five thirty six days Christmas? So if there was something
dodgy in there, it's a perfect time to release it,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Quarter past four?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's the Heather Duper See allan Drive full show.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Podcast on iHeartRadio powered by news Talk Zepp.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Heather, you are so wrong. As seat is a seat,
It's not a place to stand up.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
What if the person behind you, who would be would
expect to be able to see and enjoy the show
was crippled. I mean, there is a question about how
that person got into the seats right at the top
of Eden.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
But but anyway, let's.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Just say for the purposes of the story, somebody's crippled
or it had a stroke and couldn't stand up.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
David, thank you for that text. Eighteen past four sport with.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
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Speaker 3 (08:22):
Darcy Waldegrave sports stook Hoosters here Hello Darce?

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Why ah?

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Yeah wrong, Mike, you go get I turned the other
one on over there? What I'm doing all over the show?
It's getting close to the weekend.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Great to be here.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
I am over eighteen, so I'm allowed to beat responsibly
with the tab. I was bit successfully. It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm so looking forward to the day when you come
in here and you go, that's it. I have one
big If you win anything, can you please tell us?

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Well?

Speaker 7 (08:54):
I receeven League Multi down last week as random games,
and I thought that one of them was the game
on Sunday, but it wasn't. It's Auckland FC. You were
playing on Sunday, So Walkland FC b Brisbane on Sunday. Yeah,
I won twenty five dollars. They always say don't bet

(09:16):
what you can't afford to lose.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I've got I've got no.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Money, okay, I've got had a little tiny ten so
I know everything else. I bet last week though nothing
came through. Oh I got I've got one for you
this time around. It's probably the most insane bet ever.
But there's value here, right right. Listen to me like
a bookie. There's value here. There's a big fight going
on a cutter this weekend. There's UFC Sarah kan Is

(09:44):
taking on Hooker, the Hangman, Dan Hooker. Now he's the challenger.
Iman will be the number one contender should he go
through and win this against Torporea, who's got the title,
and you've got the hangman coming in now. Dan Hooker's
paying four dollars fifty, So that's that's pretty outside. So
you say favoritism lies with the Armenian at a dollar twenty.

(10:07):
But the beauty of violence is that you.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Just don't know one lick.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
It's all over, yep, all over now on the ground,
Dan hook is not great. He's getting better at grappling.
He's a striker and he's a number he really is.
He's insane. I don't quite know where he comes from,
but all he wants to do is beat people up.
So he's in the right job, which is good. But
he's got a good stand up game. He's got a
good punch. So maybe early on in the piece he

(10:35):
catches Arman and it's all over. It's four dollars fifty.
So there you go, so five dollars on that five dollars.
I'm wanting to win my twenty five. I win my
twenty five, and I think that'll come through just before
this fight starts, and I'll put all my okay eighteen
bit responsibly because we're.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Doing a lot of controversial stuff today. Controversial.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Take here we go, that's very controversial. Really, the silver
Ferns are better off without Dame The.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Silver Ferns are better off away from New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Well, or maybe they're better off without Dame Knowles. Look
at what is happening. They are doing really well.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
They won the Tiny Jamison, they almost won the Constant almost.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
With England.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
Uhhh.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
They did lose a game though.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
But they won the series.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
Yes that they did to the victor the Spoils. And
because and Jerry Rink's done a really really good jobs
being thrown in there, parachuted in at the last moment,
and she's done an exceptional job. I can't help but
think the players away from the Goldfish Bowl are really
enjoying actually playing netball again and not being I don't

(11:43):
know the players. I know a lot of them to
talk to individually. I'm not allowed their phone numbers, understandably,
but I know the media lady really well known carry
for years and years and years, and I just get
the sense of relief when I talk to them. It's like,
we're out of that mess. We're not going to be
dealing with the CEO. We'll not be deivle this that
we're not being dragged into it. We're actually here to
do what we do best, which is we're a black

(12:05):
dress and she'd netpole around. He look, he may well
be right, but I suppose Nol's looking at this going
she's probably ringing up the yet right now, going.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Now, Mavericks, have you got job?

Speaker 7 (12:16):
And yeah, I don't. We will me come back.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
But that is over.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
That Northern Hemisphere is over, and the All Blacks will
be over on Sunday morning, and I think we're all
pretty pleased about that. That's the last sod of dirt.
It's the lid of the All Blacks coffin for the year,
another very underwhelming year.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Thank you, this is a fair point. Actually, thank you Darcy.
We might have to go through some erasors stats in
a minute. Darcy water Grave Sports Store, Coast Back at
seven for twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
We've got a fairy deal to new ships when they
arrive in twenty nine. They're bigger than we currently have.
Whinston Peters stitched together the deilies with us. What are
the learnings out of this in government for curing services
going forward.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Well, look, we've got so many examples Transmission Galief, who
were to walk with every contract blew out massively and
there were huge delays. We can't afford to have that
sort of behavior from central government.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Some of the.

Speaker 10 (13:10):
Politicians need to get out of down way and get
the right smart experience, business people, experienced chase people. They
might know something, but what they're talking about that we're
going to far more that in the future rather than
this cost plus blowout and massive expensive and gintal taxpayer.

Speaker 9 (13:23):
Back tomorrow at six am. The Mike Hosking breakfast with
Avida News Talk ZB.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Heather
duper Cy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage like
no one else News talk z'b.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Hey, just in case you're thinking, m I'd love to
do a Torri Fano and move to Australia. They had
three drive by shootings at Sydney last night, So Murray
Old's is going to talk us through that shortly, just
you can to reassess your life choices four to twenty six.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Gettloaded us.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
By the way, though, Winston is already today promising that
he's going to repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill, which he
helped past two days ago.

Speaker 11 (14:01):
We did our best to neutralize its adversity effects and
we will campaign in the next election to repeal it.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
So like, just so you understand how it works when
you're in government. When you're in government like Winston is,
and they pass a government bill, it got past because
Winston voted for it. So two days ago Winston voted
for it, and today he's telling radio wats here that
he's going to repeal it. It's like a make work scheme,
isn't it. It's like one of those ones where you
take the rock to the top of the hill and
then you bring that then you say to everybody, vote

(14:31):
for me, and I'll bring the rock back down again.
Just keep doing that, have worked for life. Now, why
do you think Winston possibly wants to do this? David's
got a theory.

Speaker 12 (14:39):
Well, it's pretty worrying because that's Labour's position. It sounds
like he's getting ready to go with Labor again.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Doesn't it? Just doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Just now, if you've been following what's going on with
Labour's coalition partners, you probably come to the realization Labor
doesn't get into government with the current coalition partners.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
But what if Labor gets into government with wh Winston.
Winston's done, He's done it before. He's ruled out Chippy.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
But don't believe that for a second. He'll go there
as quick as a flash if he has to. Anyway,
we'll talk to Barry Sober about that when he's with us.
Short leaves with us in about twenty minutes time. And
then also, David Seymour, it's going to be with us
after half past Never a dull day with Winston, and
is it hither I completely agree with you on standing
in concerts. It's a key we thing to sit down
the entire time. In America, they stand in the baseball

(15:24):
games for hours and hours, and once the front does it,
everyone accepts that Howard is is how it is and
follows the lead.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Thank you, Jordan.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
News is next, hard questions, strong opinion.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
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Tanda Power of satellite Mobile news Talk said, be so.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Tend seven true nobody.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Okay, Erica Stanford's going to be with us after five o'clock.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now, this is all account of the e R O
which has come out today showing that it's no surprise
at all. But the ban on the phones in the
schools is in fact lifting academic achievement.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
That doesn't go far.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Enough though for the er What they now want is
bans on other devices, wearable devices like smart watches, because
the kids are still mucking around with those, aren't They're
still getting distracted by those and accessing their phones via them.
And also a ban on social media that can be
access via laptops and stuff like that. Whether that's even possible,
whether Eric is even considering it, will have a chat
to her when she's with us. Just after five barrisopers

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of us in ten minutes, twenty four away from five.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's the world wires on youth talks. It'd be drive.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
So Donald Trump has now signed the bill ordering the
release of the Epstein files. The files now have to
be made public within thirty days. A Democrat senator says,
the Trump administration could still try to find a way
around this.

Speaker 13 (16:46):
He will use any little small piece of language from
this text. He will try to stretch any type of
less set of intent. She'll try to basically break any
norm to protect himself and his rich buddies.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Bombs have been falling on western Ukraine. At least twenty
six people have died in Russian strikes. Here's President Zelenski.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
This is a bloody war.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
We have to constantly defend ourselves from these strikes in Ukraine.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
We're looking to and of course providing Ukraine with necessary
missiles air defense.

Speaker 14 (17:16):
This is a challenge, it's not easy, but we do
everything for this.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
And finally, you know the gold toilet. You've been following this.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
The gold toilet has sold at auction for twenty one
million New Zealand dollars. Now this is the second gold
toilet that was created by the artist Maritzio Katalan. The
first one was famously stolen from Blenham Palace in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Toilet number two actually only got one.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Bid when it went under the hammer in New York,
so the buyer might have been able to, you know,
had that thought about it, get it for a few
million cheaper than they actually did.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
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Speaker 15 (17:53):
Murray old Ossie correspondents with us A mus very good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Okay, so it's just a couple of weeks, is it,
and face he's going to start kicking the kids off.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
Well a little bit longer.

Speaker 16 (18:04):
But in fact, the tenth of December is the date
that this ban on under sixteen's using social media comes
into force in Australia, first country in the world to
do this. But what the big you know, the big
social media giant MATA has done is send out a
warning letter, if you like, a warning email to all

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the kids who are on these platforms. In a fortnight,
we're going to start turning off your accounts, so you
either have to download or delete or you're going to
lose the data.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
Now.

Speaker 16 (18:37):
If the children want to dispute this, they have to
have facial scans or prove that they're actually sixteen or over.
Now Matters told the federal government hundreds of thousands of
accounts will be removed by December the tenth. Almost every
single matter platform Heather's covered. The only exception appears to
be Messenger, but things like Facebook, Insta, threads, TikTok, Snapchat, YouTube,

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raddit kick, the list goes on. All of these are
going to be banned to under sixteens, along with lots
of warning messages. Account Holders also being urged to provide
contact details. I mean, this is a commercial opportunity here.
Don't forget kids. When you turn sixteen, come back, give
us some contact details and we'll be in touch as
soon as you turned sixteen.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, that's a fair point that you make this. What's
going on?

Speaker 16 (19:20):
See how it works?

Speaker 17 (19:21):
Well?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Do you are you a douter?

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Well?

Speaker 16 (19:25):
I just want to know how on earth it's going
to be policed. I mean a mums and dad's going
to do it. They've had a pretty poor job up
to now. Mums and Dad's going to be at this
or the lawses.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Please, is that going to work?

Speaker 16 (19:36):
Let's have to wait and see.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
I mean, Australia is the guinea pig here.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Well, I mean, look, does it have to work one
hundred percent beautifully perfectly for it to work?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Now?

Speaker 10 (19:45):
I get that.

Speaker 16 (19:46):
I mean, you know the perfect count's down in the.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Way of the good right exactly?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yes, you see how it goes.

Speaker 16 (19:51):
I'm a skeptic, but I'm not the only one too.
But let's see.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean, because think about it like this, smuz right,
we ban kids under the age of eighteen from buying fags.
Sometimes kids we'll manage to get the hands on fags,
and but for that we don't go all better if
that ban, then we still think it's worth the band, right,
because we.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Still think it's so true.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, so I think no, I mean, I think it
is fair to have some questions about this.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
But I just wonder if we're getting tripped up a
little bit, as you say, worrying about the perfect when
we can just try the good.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Listen, tell me what's going on with these drive bys?
Do we know what's going on here?

Speaker 8 (20:21):
What was another?

Speaker 18 (20:22):
Well?

Speaker 16 (20:23):
Last night in Sydney Southwest Sydney, there were three in
four hours, two homes and a business were shot up,
but luckily no one hurt. In one of the home shootings,
there was only one bullet. Five I say only one bullet.
I mean they're not trying hard enough. Police now investigating
whether they are linked. There were two cars set alight
in the wake of these three shootings. Now, police set

(20:44):
up earlier this year a special task force because basically
they've lost candle the number of shootings.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
This year alone.

Speaker 16 (20:51):
It's the underworld fighting each other over the drug trade.
Extremely lucrative as you might expect in the city of
five and a half six million people. People using Persian
rugs and a lot of money to be made when
you sell and distribute them. So police, you know, they
say they've got a handle on it, but gee wears
last night three and four hours certainly doesn't seem so.

(21:12):
The poor buggers who were copying the bullets.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Master, did you just say persian rugs?

Speaker 16 (21:17):
Oh, I'm sorry, I may have done.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I mean drugs, Sorry, persian drugs. I thought, geez, the
Persian I reckon. I've got a couple under the basement,
minded to whip them out, all right?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Buzz thanks, I really, really appreciated Murray Old's Australia, corresponding, Hey,
do you know what this is fascinating? I caught up
with somebody last week for a coffee and they were
telling me that, and they showed me on the on
the Australian news media.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Some of the stuff that's going on with the fire
bombings and stuff has actually got to do with siggi's.
So there's such a massive siggy.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Black market in Australia. They're actually the gangs are actually
fighting to control the siggi's. How mental is that?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Nineteen away from five?

Speaker 10 (21:56):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Du for see Ellen?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, the my.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Twelve year old has recently started self harming at the
suggestion of one of her online friends. We managed to
track back all the conversations she's had with the friends
for the last four months. They were innocent and happy
until this person came along with their determination to turn
her into a very unhappy girl, which she clearly now is.
As far as I'm concerned, they cannot ban enough.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Thanks Lucy.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Now, the last Maori MP who hasn't spoken has now
broken her silence. This is hanaud ARFITTI might be Clark,
who's the youngest one you know, the one in the
Maori Party, the one who's stood up and started the
hucker and tore up the bill. She's actually remarkably mature
about what's going on in the party at the moment.
She says, both those involved on both sides of this

(22:38):
argument have been wrong. She says, sometimes I've wanted to
give them all a hug and are hiding. At the
same time, she seems to be refusing to pick sides
here between the leadership and between the.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Two who have been kicked out.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
She says she actually does have confidence in the leadership,
and then she says, we're coming to a real tough
time where it's coming up to Christmas and people are
thinking about food, and people are thinking about grocery prices
and thinking about gas prices, and.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
This is definitely not what we need. And never a
truer word has been spoken.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
She's called a huei for her electorate to take place
in a couple of weeks time, and she's going to
put it to them to decide what to do. She says,
at this huei in two weeks, Hodaki waikattl will determine
my future in politics, whether I'm still the right voice
and whether this is still the right party and movement
for them.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Now, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
I might not agree with her politics, but it is very,
very hard not to be impressed with her maturity, because
it must be incredibly easy, it must be incredibly tempting
to pick sides here and go along with something. But
she is not picking sides. She's seeing it for what
it is, that both sides are behaving badly, and putting
it to the very people who put her there to
decide her future. I think well done. Hannah Afati. Barry
Soaper's next seventeen Away from five.

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Speaker 3 (23:48):
Here the Persian rugs is Cockney slang for drugs. Thank you. Fourteen.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I'm quite happy I didn't know that beforehand. Fourteen Away
from five Barry Soaper, Senior Political Correspondence with Us Have
Barry Good Afternoon. Audrey Young's piece No I Haven't Okay.
Audrey Young's piece title Bishop has a target on his
back and she's basically written a piece where she reckons
the reason that labor's going at him. Over that cycle
and walking Bridge and his part of the world News

(24:12):
is because he's the guy most likely to roll Chris Lucksen.

Speaker 19 (24:16):
Interesting, that, isn't it. Unfortunately now I normally do read ordery,
but I haven't today. But look, the thing is, when
you've got a party polling like National has, and you've
got twenty first term backbenches in that party out of
forty eight MPs, you know you're going to be looking

(24:36):
at that polling and you're going to be saying, well,
can we last? Can we hold up the vote? And
at the moment they would the answer to that would
be no. But that's not to say that Chris Lucksen
is going.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
To be rolled.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
What are you hearing? Well, so I'm hearing that he is.

Speaker 19 (24:54):
Well, there's certainly talk in the National Party at the
moment about Chris Luckson's leadership, and who knows, it may
come to a debate in caucus next Tuesday when they
meet in Wellington. But the views that I've had they vary.
They vary from his leadership being untenable which is one

(25:14):
description that was given to me, to the detractors being
steered down if it did come to that debate in caucus.
So I think my view is that this party would
be ridiculous to ditch Chris Luxen as their leader at
the moment, because you've got look at the opposition benures

(25:38):
and you see the Moldy Party have fallen apart and
they nowhere near back together again. Yet you see the
Greens talking about revoking licensing permits for offshore oil and whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
It is, and you're still a path to victory for
Labor with Winston.

Speaker 19 (25:58):
Well, well no, I can't for the life of me
see Winston voting with Labor again. I think he realizes
the mistake that he made, you know, the last time
he did that with just and Dern. But my view
is that, you know, if if there was to be
a change, you've only got to think back to Jenny

(26:20):
Shipley rolling Jim Bolger about a year out from the
election and what happened to the National Party. Then you
could say an I could say that wasn't going, you know,
because it would have been their fourth term, so she
was ready to go anyway, and she was up against
Tallan Clark who had done her time, and yeah, well

(26:42):
that's right. But there is there's a lot of talk,
let's put it that way, a lot of talk within
parliamentary circles and outside as well within the business.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Okay, let me what's happening on Tuesday.

Speaker 19 (26:54):
Well, this, the fact that we're airing this now tends
to call discussion about the leadership, and no doubt there
will be more discussion on this, and come Tuesday, who knows,
they may have out of a showdown.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
So I'm hearing that National Party MPs are very unhappy
with Chris Luxon. I'm hearing that there is now some
talk about who could be a potential replacement, but the
replacements don't have the numbers just yet.

Speaker 19 (27:20):
That's Chris Bishop we're talking about here.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
He will be the most likely and he doesn't have
the numbers just yet. Is that what you're hearing?

Speaker 19 (27:26):
That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 19 (27:28):
And the other thing that you've got to convince, of course,
is David Seymour and Winston Peters. If they, for example,
went against any change in leadership at the top of
the National Party which would weaken their chances of getting back,
then it wouldn't happen at all because the coalition would
simply fall apart.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Okay, do you accept, though being the cheerleader for Chris Luxon,
that you are there a cheerleader for Chris Luckxon that.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
He does need to lift his game. Well, no, I
think he's doing a good job.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Well.

Speaker 19 (27:59):
No, the thing is, Heather, if you look at what
they're what they've been confronted with when they took over
the Treasury benches, no one is going to look glowing
coming into a government like that. So I think you'll
find and as I've said on this program before, and
I'm not cheerleading for Chris, well, yes you have, and

(28:22):
because I don't cheer lead for any particular politician, but
certainly not Chris Luxen. But I think you'll find when
things start turning around next year, as they're showing signs
of doing now, then it'll be a very different piece.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Hey, should we talk about the Transport Minister, Well, we
have been views on the electric vehicles, Well he was.

Speaker 19 (28:44):
He acknowledges fully the clean car changes to the legislation.
They were passed through Parliament today, So Chris Bishop freely
acknowledges the bottom fell out of the electric car market
after the government made these changes. Bishop flagged away criticism
from the Greens Julianne Jener, who says the scheme benefited

(29:05):
the wealthy who were able to go out and buy
electric cars at the experiense of mother.

Speaker 20 (29:10):
That's christ Bishop was saying that farmers and tradees who
were stung with a ute tax in order to transfer
the money to largely middle and upper income consumers who
wanted to go out and buy a tesla.

Speaker 17 (29:25):
That regressive, inequitable, stupid scheme this government did away with.

Speaker 11 (29:33):
Does his government have an active policy to transition its
own fleet by prioritizing the purchase of electric vehicles and if.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Not, why not?

Speaker 17 (29:41):
The government's focus is not on transitioning its own fleet
to electric vehicles. This government's focus, as that member should know,
is on cost effective solutions and value for money.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
There you go ruined my day. I forgot about Julianne
and my day is.

Speaker 19 (30:01):
That's what I'm very head insult to injury.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I appreciate a very so for senior political correspondent eight
away from five hither barriers dreaming Winston is going back
to labor. National is doomed with their voter base if
they don't replace Luxeon with Bishop. Winston won't want Bishop
because he will be cast into the shade. That's actually
a fair point. Well, I mean all of that is
a fair point. I do believe that Winston's not stupid.
He knows that his best leverage is when he can
go with both sides, so get ready for that. Also,

(30:27):
nobody in the coalition, like Winston and David Seymour, will
not want a change of leadership with National because let's
be frank about it, right, Luxon is and I really
like the guy.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
He's a nice guy.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
He's not very good at the job, is he. And
because he's not very good at the job, the National
Party voters going down, isn't it. When it goes down,
it also bleeds.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yes, some of it bleeds to Labor, but some of
it bleeds to the Act Party and some of it
bleeds to the New Zealand First Party. And look at
our New Zealand First is doing in the bowls. They'll
be stoked.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Both of them will be like, absolutely, you should keep
luxon because it keeps their voter up.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
This is what Audrey's written.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
It was perhaps no coincidence that the target of Labour's
attacks this week in a full court Press was Chris Bishop,
the National Minister considered one of the strongest contenders for
leadership should Luxeen's leadership fail. The most interesting thing about
the c Grade scandalet was that Labour decided to run
the risk of looking opposed to a popular and long
awaited project in Malling in order to discredit Bishop on
fairly flimsy grounds. Now, I think you know Audrey's right

(31:24):
about most things. So Audrey's bang on Chris Bishop is
the guy. If it happens he actually happens to be
with us after six o'clock on roads of national significance,
So a might am I just throw him a question
or two on that? And then David Seymour on the
business about Winston potentially going with Labor. He's with us
after half past five. Wellington, jeez, it's good days for
it like Wellington. Do you look out the window and

(31:44):
think sunny days?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Because you must be like Tori's out toys. Even off
to Melbourne now and now the good news is the
Golden Mile has been paused. Now the Golden Mile, because
that's going to just be a blight on the city.
The Golden Mile was supposed to cost seventy eight million
dollars back in twenty twenty. It will not surprise you
at all to find out it's blown out again today
to two hundred and twenty million, so from about eighty

(32:06):
mili to says what it's it's tripled, is tripled, from
eighty mil to twenty to twenty. Anyway, they voted to
pause it. Pause comes before a cut.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
So we'll talk to the new.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Mayor Andrew a little about that very shortly just after
five and see if that is on the cards.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Erica Stanford's next news talks b.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
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Speaker 6 (32:31):
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Speaker 2 (32:35):
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Speaker 1 (33:01):
The truant to ask the questions, get the answers, find
the sack and give the analysis. Here the duplicy ell
and drive with one New Zealand and the power of
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Speaker 3 (33:13):
That'd be good afternoon. Surprise, surprise.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
The cell phone ban in our school is a success
and Education Review Office report shows the ban has improved
academic achievement and reduced bullying, and the er now wants
the government to go further and ban even more devices.
Erica Stanford is the Education Minister. High Erica, Hello, hi you,
I'm well thank you. Would you consider banning the wearables
like the smart watchers.

Speaker 18 (33:36):
We're certainly going to take Erro's recommendations into account and
I'll get the ministry it could be some advice, but
I certainly think we probably do need to go further.
But that'll obviously be a decision I need to take
to Cabinet, but I'll certainly look at it now.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
One of the other things they also want you to
limit is access to social media, because of course the
kids are still able to get through it through the laptops.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Can you actually practically do that?

Speaker 18 (33:59):
There is a way that we can. It's not a
complete solution, but the Network for Learning that part of
they're a Crown agency who provide internet to schools, can
restrict and limit what you can see on the schools
network and they are able to disable access to social media.

Speaker 21 (34:17):
Now.

Speaker 18 (34:17):
I think about sixty percent of schools already do it voluntarily.
There's about forty percent who don't. And I'm just working
with n forour our on whether or not we can
go further with a band from the school network of
social media. There's a few fishalts in there.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I've got to look at though, like what.

Speaker 18 (34:32):
Well, like the fact you've got things like YouTube, and
how would we deal with that In the fact that
actually for the moment teachers are on the network, and
teachers may be accessing Facebook during the day, and so
that would mean they would have lost access. So there's
a few little things I just have to think about.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Okay, now, the ero says the problem with the phones
the ban is still in some cases the parents are
the problem because they are resisting the ban.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Is that what you're finding.

Speaker 18 (34:56):
Well, I was a little bit surprised to hear it.
But then when I think about my own behavior, sometimes
not so. You know, occasionally I will text Alex or
Holly at school and say, and how did your results go?
And then I've got to stop doing that. And actually, parents,
we all as a collective need to stop distracting our
kids during the day. And you know, even I looked

(35:17):
at that and thought, you know what, even I do
that occasionally and I need to stop doing it. And
I think all parents need to probably take that on board.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, okay, listen, I see you've also got a bill
that's going to stop schools opting out of international maths
and reading tests.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
What's going on here.

Speaker 18 (35:31):
It's really important that we have data over time, that
consistent data over time that shows our performance. We really
have nothing else. PISA which is the one we do
at age fifteen that does the basics, and we've got
Pearls and Terms which do reading, writing and maths and
science at a younger age. Are the only longitudinal studies

(35:51):
we have to show our own performance over time. Yes,
it does rank us with other countries. I'm less concerned
about rankings. I'm more concerned about our own performance over time.
If you look at PISA at age fifteen, our students
today are about a year between a year and a
half and two years behind where they were in two
thousand and three when this started. So it's really important
that schools partake in the assessments. A lot of them

(36:14):
are refusing it, which means it falls on the same
schools year after year, which means the data is not
as valid lately as it should be. And so just
saying to school's hey, when you're asked, you need to
partake in it. It's really important for the health of
the system, so I know where to put resource and
we know how to make good policy decisions.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Erica, thanks very much, as always, Erica stand for the
Education Minister. Ten past five, Heather Duper c Alen Wellington.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
City Council has voted to Pau's work on the Golden
Mile project. Yesterday, the cost blew out even further. It's
now estimated to cost two hundred and twenty million dollars.
That's almost triple what it was originally supposed to cost.
Andrew Little is the mayor of Wellington High Andrew h
chances that you're going to scrap this all together.

Speaker 22 (36:54):
Look, I don't know, we need to look at the
cost of it. The reality is right now, the Welling
City Council cannot take on any more cost or any
more debt because of the cost plots we've had in
other projects. The reality is, Look, there are some good
things about the Golden Mile, but there may well be
alternatives that we should be exploring. So for me, it's
about focusing on what the objectives are. But what I'm

(37:16):
very clear about is that we cannot commit Willingtonians to
cost increases that simply we cannot bear.

Speaker 23 (37:22):
Right now, what's caused this particular blowout, Look, I think
as they've been dealing with a contractor, they found that
the costs that were specified what four years ago are
no longer realistic.

Speaker 22 (37:35):
That's not a surprise. But I think, like all these things.
You know, you get down to the detail planning, things
turn up and it just costs more. And the problem
with God is that even though the government had agreed
at that time to fund fifty one percent of it,
they kept the dollar amount at that rate, at the
twenty twenty one to the level. So any increase in
cost is entirely force on Willington rate payers and that's

(37:58):
what's making it just too.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
Much for us.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Right, So it's not like they've gone underground and they've
found all of a sudden there are pipes that need
to be fixed or some additional cost.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
It is just it is just inflation.

Speaker 22 (38:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, during the pipes underground was already affected.
Then okay, that was that a twenty million dollars part
of the project. I mean the questions of course with
a that's to realistic cost now as well. But the
reality is this is this is just inflation and doing
what the plan said, you know, people wanted done.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Andrew, is it possible to get out of these contracts
without just you know, all kinds of ridiculous stuff like
break fees and sun costs and stuff like that.

Speaker 22 (38:34):
Well, no contracts have been signed, so there's no exit
cost to there's no contract to get out of, so
there's no exit cost. What we have got is an
agreement with Wakakatai New Zealand Transport Agency on doing that project,
and it's if we change into on VET. I mean
obviously we lose funding, but we also lose may kind

(38:55):
of good will or good faith about entering into the
next contract and we actually need to maintain that relates
with MTTA. We've got some big projects scheduled for Wellington
now too and we need to maintain that relationship. So
a lot of boards that were juggling in the air.
But the bottom line is Wellingtonians can't take on any

(39:15):
more cost and we've got to get it right, the
right result for Wellington.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Right, Andrew, Thank you as always Andrew Little, Mayor of Wellington.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Heather Duplessy Ellen, this is going to cause trouble.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
The government has just announced that they will add feral
cats to the list the Predator Free twenty to fifty
hit list. So the list of animals that you're allowed
to kill, you're allowed to well, when I say you,
I don't mean go out. I don't mean to go
and get a garn and shoot a cat. It's not
what I mean legal, This is not this is not
a good idea.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
But you know, the people who go out and.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Kill the pests, they are allowed to kill the ferrets
and the weasels, and the rats and the possums and
the stoats and now the feral cats. And you can see, yeah,
someone's pet cat is going to get killed in it anyway.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
So that's just happened.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
So hang on to tech because we're going to get
you somebody up who can talk to us about that,
just really quickly.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
That will happen. Next, more bad news for the coppers.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Remember that thing about the one hundred and twenty police
officers that were busted possibly faking the breath tests, and
a number of them, apparently a small number of them
have now been stood down from their duties because they
have been busted doing some other stuff as well. Police
are not going to say how many officers, and they're
not going to say what they've also been busted doing.
But yeah, it's obviously ramped up, like they had a

(40:27):
look at the one thing that they were busted doing and.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Then same thing.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
You know, it's just like this happens from time to time.
You have a look, and then you go, oh, it's
not just the one thing, is it, Johnny, that you've
been up to. Anyway, keep an eye on that because
the numbers will come out at some stage. Fourteen past five. Hey,
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(41:12):
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Speaker 3 (41:14):
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Speaker 4 (41:15):
The blade battery has a range of four hundred and
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Speaker 2 (41:44):
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Speaker 3 (41:47):
Right, eighteen past five, Here we go. It's all on
with the feral cats.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
They're now officially recognized as a pest by the government
and they're being added to the Predator Free twenty fifty
hit list. Apparently we could have anywhere upwards of two
point four mission feral cats around the country. The chief
executive of Predator Free New Zealand Trust, Jesse Morgan, is
with us on this.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Hello, Jesse, surely hear this. This was the right call.
This is overdue, isn't it.

Speaker 24 (42:11):
This is so so overdue. We've been campaigning on this
for quite a long time, so we're really excited to
see it finally coming to reality.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
When does it they say this now, but when does
it actually like, when do you actually get your hands
on you know, the cats.

Speaker 24 (42:24):
Has the cats? I'm actually not sure on that detail.
I'm not sure if they added immediately or in the
strategy review, which is due to be released in March
next year, so I think it will be won't be
official toll March.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Okay, now, Jesse, this this is going to cause trouble,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
No?

Speaker 6 (42:45):
I don't think it is.

Speaker 24 (42:46):
I think the public perceptions have rarely changed around feral cats,
and I think New Zealanders ready for this and have
actually been calling out for it, So I don't think
it's going to cause any issue at all.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Cats are really Oh no, you don't have to convince me.
I know the bad guys. But how do you trap
a feral cat?

Speaker 24 (43:05):
How do you trap it? Most of the time, well,
there's multiple ways. You Either, if you're trapping in areas
where there might be companion cats, you use a live
catch a trap so the cat is caught, is alive.
You can scan it to check if it's a feral
cat or an owned cat, and then you can dispatch
of it normally by fire.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
See a million ways that somebody's pet is going to
get calls in this, and then there's going to be
a drama and some old bit he's going to be
in the local rag complaining about her pet cat being killed.

Speaker 24 (43:32):
Don't you think we No, Well, we can't afford for
that to happen, you know, like we need to maintain
social license here, so there will be I think there
will need to be changes around what we do with
our owned companion cats. And if we have compulsory microachure
I think for those cats, then we can easily identify
what's a owned cat and what is an unowned cat.

(43:55):
And that's the change we need in terms of a
policy change.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Who does the killing, by the way, like is it
normal punters, can we help you out or is it
designated people?

Speaker 24 (44:05):
I mean a lot of farmers already control feral cats
on their farms, and a number of community groups around
the country. It tends to be done in remote areas
where there's no there's no companion cats and there's just
no reason for any cats to be in those areas,
So that's where it tends to be done. Yeah, but

(44:27):
you know, I'm sure if you want to get involved,
there's plenty of groups.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
This is how it gets wild because next minute I'm
trapping cats and it's my neighbor's companion cat doing what
we no, No, we don't want that at all. Jesse,
Thanks very much appreciated. Jesse Morgan, Chief executive of Predator
Free New Zealand Trust. Do you think do we not
call them pets anymore? Are they not pet cats anymore?
Are we we're going full noise companion cat?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I really hope not. There's something about it. There's just
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
It's just a pet, isn't It's not a companion. Stop
getting weird about your cat. Five to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
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Speaker 4 (45:10):
They'd be here the interview that cat Champagne lady from
the Housewives show. She's going to be going mental right now.
I think a lot of people are going to be
going mental right now.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Five twenty four.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Now, Look, it's not every day I say this, but
I think Labor's got a point. And the point is
specifically about the road cone tip line, and the point
is that we're wasting money on it because we are.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
The latest figures show that.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Only seven point five percent of the sites that authorities
visited after someone complain via the road cone tip line
actually ended up having road cones removed. Basically, only seven
and a half percent actually had too many road cones.
The remainder ninety two point five percent of the sites
had the right number of road cones.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Now, this will not surprise you at all.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
If you've already been following the road cone saga, you'll
have reached the same conclusion that I already have, which
is the problem is not that people lay out too
many road cones. The problem is that the rules force
them to lay out too many road cones. If you
do not change the rules, there is no point in
having a road cone tip line. And although the rules
have changed and some councils are adopting them, I'm yet
to be convinced that the new rules will lead to

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a dramatic reduction in the number of cones being laid out.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
There was a situation at Kindy. What a line.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
There was a situation at Kindy this week, or rather
outside Kindy this week. The guys were doing work on
the road outside right all they wanted to do was
to lift the manhole cover in the middle of the
street and flush the pipes. It was a water care job,
and all they needed was one truck with about twenty
cones around the truck, and then the two or three
blokes that they required to do the work and pull

(46:36):
in the hoses and whatever whatever.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
That was all they needed, right, one.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Truck, twenty cones, two or three blokes, because no one
was going fast on the road. It's a cold de
sack with a candy in it. But instead, even though
it's a cold de sack with a candy, and everybody
drives it about twenty k's an hour, they used six
hundred thousand cones and created six different lanes, and they
had lollipop people all over the street, and they've blocked
all the parks until one of the teachers came and
told them to give them back a car park as
they needed it. Right, they were treating it like it

(47:01):
was State Highway one, because of course they were, because
the rules.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Require them to do that.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Unless you change those rules, the road cone tip line
is nothing more than a stunt that has already at
last count, cost us more than one hundred thousand dollars,
and I would not be surprised if it was close to.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Double that now if you went to count it again.

Speaker 14 (47:17):
So scrap it.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
The road cone tip line is actually nothing more than
a waste.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Of money, Heather dupuy Ellen, Lord.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
I'm telling you this is this cat thing is going
to turn into a thing. Heather.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
You need to keep your cat on your property and
it will not get shot. It's pretty simple, Karen. I
don't even have a cat anymore, but and I'm copying it, Hither.
I'm a responsible owner. If someone kills my cat, there's
going to be utu Heather. That was totally out of
order on the feral cats. Jesse was abhorrent in her communication.
Was it the bit where she said that it was

(47:49):
going to be sorted out with a firearm? Was that
the bit that upset you?

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Heather?

Speaker 4 (47:54):
You are going to be an old biddy one day
too that some would say, I already am, Heather. Is
this an Undy's Undies toll tog scenario we're in Google
Google Maps.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Does a domestic cat become a feral cat? There's your
problem right there.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Graham's hit the nail on the head because you're gonna have,
You're gonna have what do you call cats nowadays?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
What is a good cat name? Do we have cats?

Speaker 12 (48:12):
Mittens?

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Thank you you got Mittens. Mittens is on your property, right,
Mittens is on your property.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
It's fine.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
But then Mittens goes to Ant's house and Ants goes, oh,
look that's a feral cat.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
You know what I mean? Like we get this is drama,
drama what you'd never kill a cat? Whatever you should.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
The day's newsmakers talk to Heather first, Heather Duplice Ellen
Drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite
Mobile newsg said, be.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Right, the huddle standing by. We have fellow Riley and
Jack Tame with us this evening, and after six we're
going to talk to Chris Bishop. Now Christmaship.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
We have a speech yesterday which kind of went unnoticed
by a lot of people, in which he talked about
the roads of national significance and how bloody hard it's
going to be to actually build these roads because we
just don't have enough money, Like we'd have to pay
so much in road taxes, as in petrol taxes in
order to fund them. Tolls would not cover them. We
don't have enough cars paying tolls. PPP's sure helps, but

(49:17):
it just delays the cost. So anyway, we're going to
talk to him about you know what he's planning to
do here. If you can't build them all right now,
what are you going to do about it? He's with
us after six right now, it's twenty four away from
six now to the coalition. Winston Peters has done a
bit of a funny thing. He told Watier News today
that he plans to repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill.

Speaker 11 (49:34):
We did our best to neutralize its adversity effects and
we will campaign in the next election to repeal it.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Okay, but what's odd about it is that the bill
that he wants to repeal only passed two days ago,
and he actually voted to pass it. David Seymour is
the leader of the AX Party. Hi, David, Hey, Okay,
what's going on here? Did he want something included in
the bill or excluded in the bill that he didn't
get that's was the to go sour on it.

Speaker 15 (50:02):
No, We've worked pretty hard to try and find out
exactly what the objections are, and we're being prepared to
make changes. I thought some of them are actually positive
and we included them, and then we passed the bill
because it's government policy. But I mean more fundamentally, this
country is tied up in red tape. We are poorer
than we would otherwise be. People have their lives destroyed

(50:24):
by stupid rules, such as a woman I wrote about
in the post yesterday. She lost her life savings to
silly earthquake rules that should have been properly vetted before
they were made. The Regulatory Standards Bill is designed to
fix that the same way that the Reserve Bank Act
fixed out a control inflation and the Public Finance Act
fixed out a control debt back in the day. Now

(50:46):
you know that's the objective here. It's quite serious stuff.
And yeah, people want to play politics. I mean it's
not even election he yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I mean, do you think that's what's going on.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
He's passed it, happily pasted it, and now he sees
an opportunity to play politic.

Speaker 15 (51:01):
Yeah, okay, I don't know. I mean, you know where
actors at the moment is that we're basically been given
a job by the voters and the taxpayers at the
last election, and I'd like to think that we're doing it.
I mean, the most important thing the government's done today,
in my humble opinion, is announced that you're going to
be able to bring in groceries labeled in select foreign

(51:23):
countries using QR codes to add New Zealand additional information. Now,
if that stops you having to put silly stickers on
foreign goods as you sometimes see in the International Aisle,
it means you can get a wider range of groceries
into New Zealand. It might actually improve the prices we
paid by increasing competition. That's the kind of thing we're doing.
May not set the world on fire, but it might

(51:44):
actually make a difference.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Do you think the theory that you've expressed earlier today
is that you think that Winston Peters is preparing to
potentially go with labor after the election.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Do you really believe that, Well, you.

Speaker 15 (51:56):
Know that's the arm chair political commentators view, is that
the position that he's expressed is you know, precisely the
labor position. So you could speculate that. But I mean again,
you know you've called me a policy nerd, and I
wear it proudly, Heather. I'm not really so much into
politic sas policy, and what we're trying to do is

(52:19):
just make sure the policy settings are right so people
can get on in this country. I mean, last night
we passed legislation through Parliament that will fundamentally change the
way early childhood centers are regulated because I've been fed
up with red.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I want to talk about your theory about Winston going
with labor. How do you rate the chances of it?

Speaker 15 (52:42):
Well, he's done it before, and a lot of what
this government is doing is fixing.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
It's very sober wrong because I think he's wrong.

Speaker 15 (52:52):
Well, he would have been wrong if he had said
it in twenty seventeen, as we know, to our great
cost of about one hundred billion dollar. So you know
that it has happened before. And my message is that
the party will be campaigning to keep the government because
you see the other guys. If they get in a
lot of people will just be gone. And a guy
said it to me today. I said, mate, I'll probably

(53:14):
be on the seat next to you. And at the
same time, we need to make it better because while
I think the government has done a pretty good job
in very tough circumstances, the reason I'm in the act
Party is I always think that we need a bit
more ambition on the policy front.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
All right, David, thank you very much, appreciated David Syboard
leader of the Act Party.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
The huddle with New Zealand, Southby's International Realty a name
you can trust locally and globally.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
He didn't want to say it again, so this is
what he said earlier.

Speaker 12 (53:43):
Well, it's pretty worrying because that's Labour's position. It sounds
like he's getting ready to go with Labor again.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Yeah, on the huddle with us this evening pillow, Riley Iron,
Duke Partner's Jack Tame, host to Q and A and
Saturday Mornings.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Are you too?

Speaker 8 (53:55):
Are we're calling this Metallica voice?

Speaker 10 (53:57):
Is that what we're calling him?

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Nate, I'm not even that cool.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
This is Lenny Kravitz's voice still from Saturday Night. I
couldn't even sing at Metallica.

Speaker 25 (54:08):
Made two like global superstars in the spaces and I have.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
A ten month old. I mean, like, what what is life?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
But you know, I was just no singing a Metallica
last night. But there's nothing to sing along with because
it's just a bit weird, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
Phil?

Speaker 8 (54:20):
Did you get a bruce from their head banging?

Speaker 6 (54:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
I listened the bosses are listening. I had to.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I was behaving myself. I had one beer, I had
a burger. I sat in silence.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I didn't move. I tried to preserve my throat.

Speaker 7 (54:34):
So there we go.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Now we will talk about Metallica those I've got to
talk to you guys about it in a minute, but quickly, Phil,
I want to know what's going on here. Do you
believe the theory that Winston's prepared to go with labor again.

Speaker 8 (54:45):
No, what Winston's trying to do is maximize as votes here.
So they're already in full election by Shane Jones is
running around the country talking at what he says that
I've got the displays and fully sold out to original meetings.
They're absolutely setting out their store. They're early out of
the blocks on the silic some stuff. And so really
what Winston's doing is increasing the potential for his boks here, hoping.
I guess that there might be a Luxe and lead

(55:08):
government was just him and lux and in it him
and announcement with ACT on the side. Maybe that's his dream.
I'm a bit with Arry Soaper. I think don't necessarily
go as far as Berry, but I think it's pretty
unlikely he'll go as Labor because you know, he's planting
himself into a bit of a corner here and he
really doesn't like what they did to him over poor
Poor and all the rest.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, what do you reckon, Jack?

Speaker 8 (55:28):
Well?

Speaker 25 (55:29):
I would never say never for anything when it comes
to Winston. I never ruled them out of anything. But
I do think if you consider his comments today and
you put them alongside those comments from last week that
he made about National Life, you know, I think it's
perfectly reasonable to look at News gild First right now
and think that they're trying to give themselves maximum agency

(55:50):
when it comes to coalition negotiations at the end of
next year. You know, you think about the last coalition negotiations.
You were one seem to think that New Zealand first
and acted very well out of it, and that maybe
now didn't do so well. If they go into the
negotiations and everyone automatically assumes that it's going to be
a repeat of the three parties and government, well it
doesn't really give you in the first many chips. But
if there's a sintilla of a possibility that they might

(56:14):
go with Labor, if they just entertain the idea in public.
Then maybe it means they'll get a few more of
their policies through.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah, maybe so a fair point.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Okay, Now the feral cats thing has just happened, Phil,
how do you feel about it?

Speaker 8 (56:26):
Well, I'm concerned about I'm concerned about Fluffy. Fluffy will
be some cats who's got out of Missus Miggans's house
and Timaru and some sort of in some modern day
Tarzan or elephant hunter shoots the poor little bigger or
poisonserr or something. That's going to be the challenge I
think him. And you've got to argue. I don't think
you're can argue that feral cats out in the wild

(56:49):
are a good idea, and I kind of support the
idea that you need to do something about them, but
not Fluffy. And that's going to be the challenge of
because Fluffy interacts with the federals of course.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Oh yeah, Fluffy.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Fluffy is going to be mates the feral's jack and
this is this is exactly what I think is going
to happen. It's going to be absolutely fine until somebody
shoots a night someone's companion cat.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
On the head.

Speaker 25 (57:09):
Oh, Jeffrey, Well yeah, that's that's gonna be a very
bad day, isn't it, to say the least. I mean,
I have you know, I think there are many many
responsible cat owners out there. I hate how cats kill
native birds. I think it's actually overdue move to put
them on the period of free list. Fit the feral
cats on the period to free list. So I'm really
pleased have done this. Yeah, I suppose the proof of

(57:30):
the puddings in the eating. We have to wait and
see actually how they target these feral cats. And when
you come to those like urban rural boundaries and some
of those kind of bluerry areas about where poison should
and shouldn't be dropped, that's where it could get a
bit sticky.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
It's going to get very sticky. Hey guys, we'll take
a break. Come back to you shortly sixteen away from
six the.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
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Speaker 4 (57:52):
Thirteen away from Sexy Back with a Huddle, Jack Tayman,
Pillow Riley Listen.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Jack.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
I was quite surprised to hear from the er today
that part of the problem with the ban, which is
working quite well, but part of the problem is parents
who are resisting it.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Were you surprised by that?

Speaker 18 (58:06):
Ah?

Speaker 25 (58:06):
No, honestly, I'm not. Parents are the worst sometimes, Honestly,
parents can be the absolute worst. They love putting like
all of the results of all of their bad parenting
decisions and bad parenting moves. They think often lies at
the responsibility of someone else. But no, I thought the
report told us largely what we already knew. Actually that,
of course, banning kids from using their cell phones during

(58:29):
the school day makes sense. I just think it's madness
that anyone opposed us. I never understood at the time.
We remember Label was opposed it when National First first
went to the.

Speaker 17 (58:38):
Election with it.

Speaker 25 (58:38):
I just think it makes total sense. And you know,
the real question is whether the success of this will
increase support for a social media ban.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I think it will. I think it will.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I think it will actually feil because I think it
proves that you can take it something away and you
go back to the good old days in some way,
and it kind of lifts achievement and focus.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
What do you think?

Speaker 8 (58:59):
Yeah, I think that's right. And when I'm absolutely convinced
that we need to we need to do something about
social media, you should or young young people, and I
think banning it's a good idea myself. Australia's has done it.
Australia is just in the process of doing it now,
so we'll have an opportunity to have a look at
what impact it has because people say it can't literally
be done well, it's ever looks you, let's ever asked.
So I think the way that overcomes some of the parents'

(59:20):
concerns or some of the parents kind of lack of
understanding of this is actually to put the tools in
the hands of the teachers. Parents listen a lot to teachers, right,
So if the government says, but parents, you should just
get with the program, that won't work. You need to
let teachers talk to parents to say, here's what's actually happening.
A little Johnny's going much better. You should not help
givem the phone. And I think they'll trust that kind
of advice from teachers. So's to make sure that teachers

(59:42):
themselves get ahead of us and start explaining why it's
a good idea, because I think they I think they
agree it is.

Speaker 25 (59:47):
I mean sometimes the thing the parents seem to say
is that they want to be able to contact your
kid during the day. But I mean, we all went
to school at a time before everyone had itself phone,
and we start. If you need your kid, you call
the office.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
It's not that hard, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Right, and you actually, yeah, you don't need to have
your lunch delivered. If you forgot your lunch, sometimes you
can just go hungry and learn about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Okay, here's the thing like we did. Okay, here it
makes you resilient. Okay, here's the thing. So I went
to Metallica last night, guys, and there was this bogan
in front of me. Bless it. There's actually more of
a metal head than a bogan.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
And the minute that they started, he got up in
a seat and he was double horning with his hands
and he was playing the eir guitar and everybody around
him hated it, and they threw cans at him and
they made him sit down while he was having the
best night of his life. My take watching that Jack
is that he paid good money for that seat, and
if he wants to stand and boggie, he should be allowed.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
What do you think a hundred Metallica if you were going.

Speaker 25 (01:00:41):
For a nice night in with a philharmonic, it would
be a different story, it's Metallica. The thing that's most
horrifying to me from that story here there is that
everyone around him wasn't standing up and getting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Into it as well.

Speaker 25 (01:00:52):
Do you really go to Metallica to sit down on
your butt and be quiet?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Yes? People did, so many people did. Phil you shocked
by this as well, but it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Must have been the ones heavily on drugs. Anyway, below,
I was a Chuck of krn Confort, great singer, much
better than Metallica the Auckland at the Civic Theater a
few months ago. Thing happened Chuck A Khan, one of
the great soul singers and one of the great singers
of all the time, of course, much better than Metallica.
But at the same thing happened. As soon as she
came out, everybody just got up out of their seats,
and so did I. I mean, because that's what everybody

(01:01:23):
else is doing, and you can get into the swing
of and that's cool fun. You know, it's a text point.
You're not going to do that if it's Mozart concert
because everybody will be snoring. You want to be for
these kinds of concerts where energetic, just get with the program.
Stand up. It's good fun and you can even if
you can dance, you can sway. I had a bit
of a sway to chuck a Khan. I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I'm in a visual image of this, and it is
it's just a thing in my head, right.

Speaker 15 (01:01:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
And once you're once you've once you've thought of it,
you can't get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
No, And I mean like yeah. And also because you're
a very tall man, so the swaying would have been
everybody would a spot.

Speaker 8 (01:01:56):
Yeah, tell you what that is one thing a lot
of notice of that people can't see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
But here we go, here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
Yep.

Speaker 17 (01:02:04):
Is that it for you?

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
Is that I'm swaying. You can't see me doing this
when I'm actually swaying as we speak.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I'm every woman.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Did you feel like that, Phil when you were standing
up there, when you're like, I am every woman?

Speaker 8 (01:02:16):
Exactly right, That's exactly what I felt like. I can't
sing quite as well as to no, none of us.
I'll be with you with that.

Speaker 19 (01:02:23):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
I have to ask you this, though, Jack, because I've
got a lot of texts from people who said, if
you want to sit down, you buy a seat.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
If you want to stand and go into the moshpit
or the ga.

Speaker 25 (01:02:34):
Honestly, if you want to sit down, don't go Metallica.
That's just where I said. I think it's it is
so artist dependent. I just I was flying back to
walking from Wellington yesterday. The entire plane but me was
headed to the Metallica concert. The vibes are amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Wrong with where were you going?

Speaker 25 (01:02:51):
Well, I'm just I'm more of a system of a
down kind of guy. Like if I'm going to go mettle,
I'm going to go metal metal, you know, Yeah, I'm
going to go like real political all, you know, real deep. Anyway,
I and I I just can't imagine going to a
confident like that and then just putting my feet up.
It just it feels like that the total wrong vibe
to bring to what is an epic event.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yeah, okay, listen, Phil, next time you go to a
cool gig like Chucker, can you let us know so
we can.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
All come with you?

Speaker 8 (01:03:19):
Not much you prepared the stands up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
I'm standing up and I'm tiktoking you, and that TikTok
is going to pay for my ticket once people start
watching you swaying guys, thank you so much. I appreciate it,
look after yourself, Jack Time and fillow Riley a huddle.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
You will have seen in video results today that has
given people some confident. Yesterday people lost confidence in the
AI because of the anthropic thing and all the sharing
of the money and stuff, and you know, maybe it's
an AI bubble. Today people feel a bit more confident
and video's results came out. Sam Dicky is going to
be with us after half past six and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
We'll have a chat to him about that. Thank god.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Somebody said this, Heather, what a fast MMP can be
high ranking government minister. This is Winston votes for a
policy and then two seconds later he decides he's going
to campaign on repealing it. What a waste of everyone's
time and money. It's pointless. Do we need first past
the post? I don't want first past the post, but
I agree with MJW on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
That one, which is Winston.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
You are wasting my money and my time if you're
going to vote for something and then two days later
decide you don't want and you're going to campaign. What's
I mean? Come on, man, we've got we've got haven't
We got big problems in this country were can actually
be dealing with? Listen so I on Metallica, far away
from sex on Metallica. I need to apologize to all
the Metallica fans for yesterday bagging Metallica, because look, that

(01:04:45):
was that actually was a really impressive gig.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
They were great, right and and solely because when you
see them out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
There doing their thing, and the little fingers going across
the fret boards or the guitars, and you know, old
Mate doing his drumming like that is some That is
some actual talent and hard work that has on into
being able to play those instruments to the level that
they do. It was a really really good show that
they put on. I actually think, having watched it on
stage now, I think I could probably go and listen
to for Whom the Bell Tolls and like not hate

(01:05:11):
it like I hated it the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
I could probably missus it. Which one's this one? Well,
this is Master of Puppets, just crank it up, quickly answered.
It's a lot better alive than when you're having to
listen to it like this, which is really good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
And the other thing that surprised me, and I don't
know why it surprised me, was when they came out
there were normal people like I was expecting, like really
weird metal heads because.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
I don't actually know matell I all care about them.
They can't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
They were just a bunch of dads on They're like
four sixty one year old dads anyway, and shout out
to ed at Park because I arrived there straight from
work and I was hungry and I bought a burger
and their burgers at Eden Part were better than what
I bought at the Oasis Gag in Melbourne. So well
done you okay, Chris Bishop's next, What's up down?

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Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
The big business questions on the Business Hour with the
head the dupic Allen and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Your futures have good hands used talk z B even.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
In coming up for the next hour, Sam Dickey on
the AI Bubble after half passed, Jamie MacKaye on ZESPRI
looking good again and Ander Brady will do the UK
for you. Seven past six now the Transport Minister has
outlined a real problem for the Roads of National Significance
program we might not have the money for it. In
a speech to the Future Roads Conference yesterday, Chris Bisher
pointed out that the National Land Transport Fund is massively oversubscribed.

(01:06:38):
That's what we normally used to pay for roads PPPs. Yeah,
sure they help, but they just delay the bill rather
than paying for it. And we do not have a
big enough population for tolls to fund projects by themselves.
So let's talk to Chris Bishop about this.

Speaker 17 (01:06:49):
High Bish, Good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
So what are you saying here that we are not
going to get all the Roads of National Significance or
we're just going to have to wait longer for them.

Speaker 17 (01:06:58):
I'm just trying to do a bit of ex spectation management.
You know, the Roads of National Significance that the government's
going to deliver are popular, and they are you know,
big investments in the future of New Zealand. From a
growth point of view, from freight, from getting around. All
of those things are true and they're right. I'm just
simply making the point that they're expensive, that there are
trade offs with other priorities, and that they can't all

(01:07:19):
be delivered at once. So I'm just trying to do
a bit of expectation management. This is about a long
term pipeline, Okay. I just don't want people to think that,
you know, there's going to be like fifteen big major
roads all built at the same time around the country,
all at the same time. That's not going to happen.
To be honest, our construction market can't cope with that anyway, right.
We just literally do not have the workers, all the
capacity to do that, and it will drive up inflation

(01:07:40):
even if we did. So, I'm just saying it's about
a long term pipeline over many, many years to get
these roads.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
It's long term.

Speaker 17 (01:07:48):
Well, we're going to set out, you know, soon a
bit of a sequence and a bit of a pipeline
over the next fifteen to twenty years around not just
the roads of national significance, but also some of the
other important projects like the Northwest Busway for example, an
Auckland Airport to Botany bus way. There's the whole range
of other projects that we need to get it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
So are you saying that all of the roads of
national significance that we are expecting will get started within
the next fifteen to twenty years.

Speaker 17 (01:08:16):
You'll I won't want to give you that commitment today,
but you will see a bit of a plan and
a sequence and a pipeline over the next twenty years.
As to the projects we want to build, I'm just
simply making the point. But they're committed to these projects.
They are really important.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
We will get on.

Speaker 17 (01:08:31):
We will get on with them, but they can't all
be done at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Should we expect, though, that some of them will not
be started within the twenty year period, No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 17 (01:08:39):
That wouldn't be my expectation. My expectations would be that
they will start in the twenty years, but they can't
all be you know, they can't all be delivered. I mean,
the problem be if we don't have the capacity to
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
The problem being, of course, that anything that you guys
don't get started in your time in office may never
get started because the next lock don't love roads, right,
That's the reality.

Speaker 17 (01:09:00):
All of that is a very strong driver for people
to Party vote National to make sure we get on
with building the infrastructure that DELA needs for the future.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
That is that is realistic, right, Anything that does that,
That is why we are fixated on getting you guys
to get spades in the ground, because the next lot
may never do it if you don't do it.

Speaker 17 (01:09:17):
Yeah, and ultimately they'll have to account for themselves as
to all of that. We can set out our policies
and our intentions, and we're working as quickly as possible
to get started on these projects because they are really
important for his land. We're just to turn that we
don't start a construction on the Hawks Bakes Pressway just
last week and that's underway now, the four landing of
seven kilometers of that very congested section of the road,
and will be more next year.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Is it not realistic to simply raise the tolls just
just make it more expensive to drive on the new roads?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:09:45):
So what's one of the points I made in the
speech it gave you today or day before, which is that,
you know, one of the one of the things people
do need to think about is if we delivered all
of the seventeen roads that we want to deliver, that
if that would that would be paid for, could be
paid for by forty nine cents per lead increase in
fuel tax. Now, there's probably a bunch of people listening

(01:10:06):
going well, bugg of that. I don't want to fifty cent.
You know, a leader increase in fuel texs are paying
off as it is. But that's kind of my point, right,
is that roads do actually ultimately have to be paid for,
and they paid for through petrol tax.

Speaker 8 (01:10:18):
YEP.

Speaker 17 (01:10:19):
Tolls are a thing, and obviously they help, but you know,
will people really pay twenty five bucks to drive on
a new road. I'd say probably not. Feat they probably
just take the alternative route. So that's just something to
my point. I'm just trying to get expectations set a bit.
That's all.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Listen, do you think the Prime Minister is doing a
good job.

Speaker 17 (01:10:38):
Yes, I think he's doing an excellent job and difficult circumstances,
I think he's doing a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Good job, so he should keep the job.

Speaker 17 (01:10:44):
Yeah, he's doing a good job. We're obviously in a
difficult economic environment and the government's working as hard as
we can to turn the corner on that and we've
got some green shoots of change coming through and I
think next year will be better than this year. But
you know, clearly it's a difficult time for everybody, and
it's a difficul geopolitical environment as well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Have you read Audrey's piece today.

Speaker 17 (01:11:04):
No, I haven't read Audrey's piece. I'm sure you're about
to tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I am, and I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Audrey's piece says that you are getting targeted by labor.
You have a target on your back because you were
the most likely person to take over from Chris Luxen.

Speaker 17 (01:11:18):
Oh that's interesting. I think they're just having a go
at me because they've got nothing else to go on
the government, and they've dreamed up some you know, tim
pop little story about you know, making sure that the
you know, the government delivers for the people, the good
people of the Hut South.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Hey, listen, scale of one to ten. How disappointed are
you that you weren't at Metallica last night.

Speaker 17 (01:11:40):
Or ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Yeah, but it's what happens.

Speaker 17 (01:11:43):
Sad, but well it's a sad but true reality. Do
you see what I did there?

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Yeah? No, I don't know any Metallica songs. Bish.

Speaker 17 (01:11:50):
Oh, well, nothing else matters other than I've got the parliament.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 17 (01:11:56):
It's just down here right in the lightning at Parliament.
So it's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
You're so lame. Hey, thank you overy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Laugh?

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Lord?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Bish?

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Thank you very much, Chris Biship, Transport Minister, Transport minister
metal head, not rolling Chris Luckson apparently thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Past six, Heather Duplessy Allen got some.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Numbers for you on how low the dollar is. Yeah,
you're not imagining it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
So it's been a one percent fall I think in
the day leading up to this morning it was sitting
around for phy six US and so whatever. I'll check
it for you in a second again seven month low
against the US dollar, near thirteen year low, against the
Australian currency, at thirteen year low, against the British pound
at thirteen year low, against the Chinese one, the trade
weighted keiwek.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Touching a five year low. Not imagining it. Fourteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
my Heart Radio powered by news dog ZEBBI, crunching the
numbers and getting the results. That's Heather Duplessy Allen on
the Business Hour with MAS Motor Vehicle Insurance.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Your futures in good hands US talk ZBI.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Yeah, I check the dollar.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
You're still sitting at fifty six against the US start
of the day there kind had a bit of a
dip in the middle of the day bounce back up
seventeen passix Jamie McKay Country Hosters with us Elo Jamie.

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
Gooda heather and that fifty six cent dollars obviously helping
exporters in this country, including Zespre.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
How's the forecast looking for them?

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
Well, they've just released their November forecast, and the per
tray returns for all fruit groups from the latest forecast
are up from the August one look at and these
are telephone book numbers sort of at a per hectare level.
Record returns in our forecast for all fruit groups of

(01:13:49):
zespri or keyw fruit. For example, A heck there and
you need to own one of these heather of some
gold will return you somewhere between one hundred and seventy
nine and a hunt and eighty six thousand dollars for heviia.
That's a fantastic return. I caught up with the chief
executive of Zesbury, Jason to Break in Japan early today

(01:14:10):
on my show. So Zesbury's got a record crop of
two hundred and fifteen million trays. They've found a home
for it right around the world. They've got really strong
demand in Europe and North America and North America even
better now that Trump's dropped as tariffs. They've also had
a favorable exchange rate, as we mentioned, fifty six US

(01:14:31):
since and Zesbury will release its final forecast for the
twenty five twenty six season in February. But look like
a lot of the primary sector, it's an industry on
a high at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Yeah, what's going on with the dairy farmers.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Well, it's interesting because we know we're hearing record returns
for Zesbury or for Kiwi Fruit red meats at an
all time high. Dairy the jury's out because you know
what happens when the price gets as high as it
has ten bucks and more, the tap gets turned on

(01:15:08):
right around the world. And even Kiwi farmers themselves are guilty,
and I don't blame them at all. So, you know,
like dairy farmings like paint by numbers in some ways,
you put stuff in the front end of a cow
and out the back end or near the back end,
comes to milk. So when you've got a ten dollar payout,
you can afford to supplementary feed them. And farmers did

(01:15:32):
go chasing the high payout at the end of last
season and that's almost working against them now. So what
we've seen with the GDT auction last night or on
Tuesday night, should I say seventh consecutive drop, we're at
a new fifteen month low. ASB senior economist Chris Tennant
Brown said, the early signs were that milk production would

(01:15:54):
be very strong this season. They opened ASB with a
very I guess conservative at the time forecast of nine
to seventy five. Fonterra, as far as I know, is
still sticking at a ten bucks. But look the way
it's going at the moment, whether weather providing that ten
dollars is certainly under threat. So Fonterra will come out

(01:16:16):
in early December, I think it's December the fifth, and
they will have a look at that milk forecast price
for the twenty five twenty sixth season, the futures market,
interestingly is at nine dollars sixty two, and perhaps more worryingly,
although it's a long time out and we've got a
lot of water to go under the bridge before then,
twenty six to twenty seven season is at eight dollars

(01:16:37):
ninety three, and I can speak for dairy farmers on
this one. Ten bucks was a great price. Nine to
fifty is still a good price. When you start getting
under nine bucks. Bearing in mind dairy and Zed said
the cost of production something like eight dollars sixty, it
becomes a wee bit more marginal.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Jamie, thank you very much. Good to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
And when I was going to say, we'll talk to
you again on Thursday, but it is Thursday, isn't it.
Jamie McKay, host of the Country twenty past six.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
The Rural Report on Heather do drive.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
That's what happens when you missed two days out of
your weekend. Really, it really messes with you, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
It's not it's not a pleasant thing. Now, Heather got
the six. Have a listen to what Bush said. That's
not what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
He skipped around it, which is a fair point because
what I'd said is he's not going to roll luxon,
but he didn't actually say he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Going to roll luxe in.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
But then I didn't actually ask him that did I said,
is luck and good at his job? And he said, yeah,
it's difficult. He's good at his job. And I said
should he keep his job? And he was like, he's
good at his job.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
He totally dodged that question. But then but then the
problem was I couldn't. I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
I just could not focus on that because all I
could focus on was this. Now, we're just not going
to talk to the man anymore because he like you've
heard it twice. Now, you know that's enough, isn't it.
He he has he's still I mean, he may still
have designs on being the Prime Minister, and if he does,
he absolutely does not need to be tormented by this.

(01:18:04):
Just well, now, Cooperative Bank switch subjects on entirely Cooperative Bank.
Can I just draw your attention to this? Cooperative Bank
reckons it's the only bank to have passed on all
of the OCR cuts.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
It reckons that since the time their reserve.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Banks started cutting the OCR, which it's cut three hundred
basis points, Cooperative has passed on to its customers three
hundred and ten basis points. It reckons the other major
banks have only passed on about two hundred and fifty
five to two hundred and seventy five. And it reckons
if the other major banks had done what it had done,
kiwis would be saving about one hundred million dollars plus
every single year in unnecessary interest that we're paying. Obviously,

(01:18:41):
the big bank's not going to take this. They've got
their version of what's going on. They say, well, they're
not passing on all of the cuts because they didn't
pass on all of the hikes, so they don't have
to pass on all of the cuts.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
But whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
All I would say about this is you can shop around.
If you feel like you're paying too much, go and
have a look at Cooperative Bank because it looks like
a really decent offering six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Whether it's made crow micro or just plain economics, it's
all on the Business hour with they had the duper
c Allen and mass motor vehicle insurance, Your futures in
good hands us talks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
That'd be by the way, I'd I'd meant to mention
earlier because I said a couple of hours ago that
I would talk about the bad stat for Raiser. The
bad stat for Raiser is that this year is the
All Blacks worst year on record for how much they
have lost their matches by. So if you if you
add up the three the three big losses is a
total of fifty three points, so they're lost to South Africa.

(01:19:32):
Remember the forty three to ten Shoka, they lost by
a margin of thirty three points. Then they lost by
a margin this weekend of fourteen points to England, and
then when they lost to Argentina, they lost by a
margin of six points. Add them all up as fifty
three points.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
That even beats Fozzy's worst, which was back in twenty
twenty two, he lost by a margin of forty four points,
six to twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 19 (01:19:55):
Bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
It's beginning to look a lot like megmus It's like
Meghan Markel, obviously Duchess of Sussex. She's just debuted the
first look at her upcoming Christmas special show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
The thing is called With Love Meghan, and this is
the Christmas version.

Speaker 24 (01:20:15):
Left the festivities commence and embrace the special touches that
bring you joy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Should we see if this works? There we go?

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Now, how do you think they filmed that? Did they
film that last Christmas? Or did they just fake it
Christmas for it?

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Anyway, So she says she's giving people an inside look,
an exclusive look into how she and the Duke and
Archie and little bit Lilabit celebrate Christmas and alongside some
of her very special guests and friends like Naomi Osucka
and that a bunch of people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
You've never heard of before.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
The drama though, is that a lot of people think
Meghan is being a bit shady, as in like she's
throwing shade because she posted the trailer just minutes before
William and Kate had the red carpet at the Annual
Royal Variety performance. So obviously, even if it was a coincidence,
people think it was planned.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Don't they now?

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
If you are, for reasons best known to yourself, chomping
at the bit to see how the Markels celebrate the holidays.
The special edition of With Love Meghan will drop on
Netflix December third. The Daily Mail in the UK ask
people do you like seeing Meghan and Harry share their
holiday traditions and six percent said yes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
And ninety four percent said no.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
So I don't know how that's going to go for Netflix,
but probably not that well. Sam Dick is with us
next on AI and Nvidia's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Results, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour,
we hand the duper c Allen and Mass motor vehicle insurance,
your futures in good hands.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Used talks'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
What I say, knew what there was an hour and
a half ago. I said, keep an eye out for it,
because we'll get the numbers. And sure enough, we've got
the numbers. It's six police staff who've been stood down.
Three of them are actually under criminal investigation. The cops
are saying the six in total have been stood down
a being investigated for serious matters ranging from potentially accessing

(01:22:20):
objectionable material through to accessing inappropriate material, while also subject
to separate misconduct matters, but in the old Gemick skimming problem.
By the looks of things, twenty four away from seven now,
the AI bubble may not be popping anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
If you have a look at what's just happened to Nvidia.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
The latest quarterly results smashed expectations off the back of
fierce demand for its chips to power the AI. It
recorded a revenue of a tick over fifty seven billion
US dollars. It's a twenty two percent jump from the
previous quarter. And Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us.
Hello Sam, Hello, Heava, Now what did you make of
this result? And what did we learn about the broad
health of AI as a result of it.

Speaker 21 (01:22:56):
Yeah, I mean you said it was another stonking result
from the biggest company on Earth. So revenue and earnings,
we already saw pretty lofty or inflated expectations, but they
beat expectations by about three percent for the quarter, and
critically they guided forecast revenue and profit to beat the
expectations by even more, about four to five percent. So,

(01:23:16):
as you said, there was fairly palpable fear for the
last i'd say probably ten trading sessions in the market
that the AI bubble was bursting. And this has at
the very least temporarily calmed the market. So we saw
that play out after market in videos, yeares jump five percent,
and any stock it even smells like it is exposed
to AI, they rarely pretty hard. So Applied micro Devices, Oracle, Broadcom, Google, Amazon, Meta,

(01:23:39):
Microsoft all up two to four percent after ours.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Did it calm fears of the bursting of the AI bubble?

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:23:46):
I think it has at least temporarily. So you know,
every time he reports, Jensen is getting more and more
granular with his with his guidance and his forecast. He's
now sort of forecasting half a trillion dollars of revenue
to be shipped over the next sort of fourteen months,
and that's getting quite specific, and he as good a
line of sight on that. So I do think this
was a critical result, and for now fears are calmed.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Okay, now I want to talk about something else as well,
which is the US consumer. Tell me what you make
of the health of the US consumer. If you look
through the eyes of home Depot, target, you know that
kind of.

Speaker 21 (01:24:18):
Thing definitely a vastly different story for the all important
US consumer. So those companies were generally all incrementally more cautious.
So home Depot think of minor tenor Bunnings on steroids,
and one of the biggest retailers in the US said,
consumer uncertainty and continued pressure and housing are disproportionately impacting

(01:24:39):
home improvement demand. And importantly, while it had been primarily
the lowering consumer that was hurting hither you and I
have talked about that, that is now spreading to the
middle income consumer target the massive general merchandise. I said,
consumers are continuing to trade down and he cheekily equipped
about Christmas. He said people will prioritize what goes under

(01:25:00):
the tree rather than spinning unnecessarily on what goes on
the tree, and Low's competes with Home Depot. While feeling
it a little less said, visibility remains poor.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
What does this all mean for investors?

Speaker 7 (01:25:12):
Do you think?

Speaker 21 (01:25:14):
I think it really shines a clear spotlight on the
extraordinary two speed economy in the US AI and all
spinning related to AI and everything else. So it's a
reminder that a couple of handfuls of AI winners in
the S and P five hundred since chat GPT was
launched in November twenty twenty two, like the start of
the modern AI bonanza, those stocks have driven seventy five

(01:25:37):
percent of the gains, and the S and P five
hundred eighty percent of the growth and earnings and ninety
percent of the growth and capital expenditure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
And outside of that, the.

Speaker 21 (01:25:43):
Economy remains or visibility on the economy remains very very poor.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Hey, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Sam has always appreciated and we'll talk to you again
soon that Sam Dicky official funds coming up to twenty
one away from seven yea the duplan Heather, what a
load of rubbish by Chris Bishop, Get on with it.
We Party voted national last time it's from Dennis obviously
wants a road. Heither listening to Chris Bishop on the roads,
it sounds like Northland are about to get screwed over again. Probably,
I mean probably it's the easiest one, right because you can,

(01:26:12):
I mean think like a politician. If you've only got
so much dough to build on, to throw around at
roads and build so many roads, you're going to go
for the roads that are going to get you the
most votes.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
And that's not going to be Northland, do is it?

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
This is ridiculous, and this is getting more and more ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
There is a piece in the New York Times today
about a company called Rennie. I think that's how you
pronounce it, maybe Reenie, who knows This company is advertising
skincare stuff online and face masks online to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Three year odds.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
And then there's pictures of a company that you've got
pictures of preschoolers with little face masks on to gel
up their skin and make it all beautiful. That is ridiculous,
because have you ever seen anybody with more flawless skin
than a preschooler? Like their skin is beautiful already, you
don't have to do anything with it. But apparently like
it sounds like it's a reasonably lucrative mark because there
are I mean, we've heard about this with the preteens,

(01:27:03):
wrote the preteens are loving that store, and what's that
makeup store called on?

Speaker 12 (01:27:10):
I was supposed to know what the makeup story is?

Speaker 8 (01:27:12):
Cooled?

Speaker 12 (01:27:12):
I just realized I have the skin of a three
year old in here. The skin, the skin needs all
the face lights that you can get, and it's not
getting them.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Oh talk about not the target audience. It's Mecca, isn't
it the one that's on on the Ponsonby Road. Mecca,
That's what it's.

Speaker 12 (01:27:26):
There's one on Queen's Street North in Central All.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Yeah, that one as well.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
When we went to Melbourne, my friend is obsessed with it.
It is the biggest apparently it's the biggest mecha in
the world or the Southern Hemisphere was something aware to go. Honestly,
I hate it every minute of as what am I
doing in this place? I went and sat with the
husbands who are all sitting around this place sounding feeling miserable. Anyway,
if you go into a meccha, you will just see
all of these little kids, like little girls who do
not need makeup, but they are a lucrative market. And

(01:27:51):
now that they're tapping into the preteens where sorry, the preschoolers,
which is nuts. Apparently in the States, households who have
age between seven and twelve, right, think about how small
that is. Seven and twelve spent close to two point
five billion dollars on skincare, presumably for the kids last year.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
That's nut.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
So now I'm going to call out some bad advice
when I see bad advice. There is a piece online
telling you how to make small talk at Christmas parties,
because of course the Christmas parties are coming up soon,
and a lot of people freak out about it. I
mean a lot of people think, like lord to, I
want to go to the Christmas party and bump into
the CEO and have to make small talk and know
something about him and I don't know anything about him,
And how am I going to get through?

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
And am I going to get fired? Or am I
going to get a pay rise based on this small talk?

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
So this piece online is giving you some advice on
the small talk, and some of this stuff is reasonable.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
It's like, ask people where they're from, where do they live,
do they have kids?

Speaker 8 (01:28:41):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
That kind of thing like that. People love talking about themselves,
so off they go and you can get to know
genuinely get to know them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
But then this comedian his name is Sam Smith. He
warms up audiences for like seven days and stuff like that. Right,
so he knows how to like a fluffer person, make
a person feel good. Has advice for how to do
small talk was to just randomly like, You'll be like,
how you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Going, Michael? Where do you live?

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Yeah, alleslie? If that's near one? Hunger, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (01:29:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Do you gotta be yank?

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Oh? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Then his advice is just to randomly be like can
I would you rather? Michael? Would you rather? And this
is what he said, You need to ask if you
had to murder someone, would you rather murder? And then
give them two options?

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
And is that not the worst piece of advice you've
ever heard about small talk? Like, imagine if you're standing
at a Christmas cocktail party and the accountant comes up
to you and is like, blah blah blahh Hey, here's
one for you. If you had to murder someone, would
you rather murder the CEO or the chief audio officer?
I mean, at that point I would be like, oh,

(01:29:45):
dear God, I think I'd be calling security, wouldn't you.
I would certainly not want to talk to that person anyway.
That's bad advice. So just if you see this article,
just go like this through that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Nope, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
How to get out of conversations though good advice. Okay,
what you do is you say you need a drink.
That's always the go to one. The trouble is, if
you've just got a fresh drink, you can't use that
one unless you want to get very drunk. You probably
don't want to use that. You could do one where
you say, oh, I really need to go to the bathroom,
excuse me, and that's okay as well. You can fake
a phone call, but that's dicey because if you fake

(01:30:17):
a phone call and then a real phone call comes in,
you're gonna get busted. So whatever you do, you know,
like you just be aware that there are some pitfalls.
But then Sam Smith strikes again. He strikes again, and
he said, if they do not take your verbal que
and they keep talking, just tell them you have diarrhea.
And there is no way anybody's going to keep you
around after that. Once again questionable, questionable advice sixteen away

(01:30:42):
from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
If it's to do with.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Money, it matters to you. The Business Hour with Heather
Dupericy Allen and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your futures in
good hands US talks.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
That'd be just a quick update on Turners, because we
love turners on this program. Turners the car people, you
know with the Tina from two. They've posted a record
first half result. Net profit is in a twenty two million.
This is versus like nineteen and a half last time.
Revenue is two hundred and nineteen million or thereabouts. Also
up they reckon their margins are up on owned stock
and financing because they do the financing as well. Financing

(01:31:17):
is the biggest growth engine for the business. Eighteen percent
year on year profit growth there thirteen away from seven.
Right now in end of Brady a UK correspondence with
us elo ender, Heather, how are you very well?

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Thank You've got a Russian ship near you, have you?

Speaker 14 (01:31:31):
Yes, just outside the UK waters off the coast of Scotland.
It's called the Yantar and this ship basically sails around
European waters observing and monitoring cables undersea cables. It is
not there to send Christmas cards. It is not there
for the good of anyone in the United Kingdom or

(01:31:51):
Western Europe. It's a Russian spyship. This story takes a twist, however,
because the UK Defense Secretary John Healy has held a
special press conference. He's come out and said that the
ORIF pilots were flying overhead recently observing just keeping an
eye on what the Russians are doing, basically, and they
were subjected to laser beams being directed at them from

(01:32:14):
this Russian ship, the Antar. So the UK government has
had enough. Heally has come out and said, look directly
to Vladimir Putin in this news conference, we see you,
we see what you were doing, and if that ship
moves into UK waters, we will be there in seconds.
So it's getting very very interesting that the Russians have

(01:32:34):
the cheek.

Speaker 6 (01:32:34):
To do this.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Yeah, it really is now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
I Meanwhile, though, domestic matters, so the Labor and psrick
and they've got the numbers to roll so Kia.

Speaker 14 (01:32:43):
Yes, this is a group on the left of the
Labor Party called the Tribune Group, and they clearly feel
that the time has come to get rid of Keir Starmer.
Now they need eighty members of Parliament, eighty elected Labor
MPs to oust a sitting Labor minister. And there's been
a lot of speculation lately about Will west streeting the

(01:33:04):
Health Secretary, move will Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Manchester,
try and get back into Parliament to get Starmar out,
and this group suddenly out of nowhere, have let it
be known that guess what, guys, we've got the numbers.

Speaker 8 (01:33:17):
Now.

Speaker 14 (01:33:18):
I think nothing's going to happen before Christmas, but clearly
plans are a foot, and I say plans plural inside
the Labor Party to get Starmar out. We've got local
elections coming.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Up in May.

Speaker 14 (01:33:31):
Do they wait until a disastrous set of local elections
and reform and Nigel Faras smashing the polls and winning,
or did they move beforehand. It's fascinating to see what's
going to happen next.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
But if they've got the numbers, why don't they move immediately?

Speaker 14 (01:33:46):
Because I think some of them want Andy Burnham, the
Mayor of Manchester, to be the next Prime Minister and
he can't do that because he's not a member of Parliament.
So to get burn him in, they've got to get
someone to put their hand up and say yeah, you
can have my seat. And basically Turkeys are not going
to vote for Christmas. I can't see any MP suddenly
turning around saying yeah, you can have my seat.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Cheeze. Well that's a really convoluted plan, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
In that?

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
I mean, like if you've got the numbers, but you're
waiting for somebody to basically fall on this sword to
let Andy, and then Andy has to be ready for it.
I mean that could take quite some time, couldn't it,
by which time we freetings.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
In Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:34:23):
Look, when you talk about plans and labor people, they
waited fourteen years to get into government and quite clearly
there was no plan. That's what we're seeing. I mean,
there's no communication. Starmer was described to me by someone
very senior in Westminster last week as a dud and
I just think they're really really struggling. But clearly moves

(01:34:44):
are afoot.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
Yeah, okay, that's interesting. Now listen what's going on with
the wistin shops in London.

Speaker 14 (01:34:51):
So there's a big fear over the reporting and the
narrative around crime in London and phone snatching and that
if you come in for a day to do your
Christmas shopping, if you come in from the countryside in
the home counties, you get to train in big family traditions.
You know, everyone goes to London shopping in the West End,
Regent Street, Oxford Street, Bond Street. You know, there is

(01:35:12):
a lot of crime in London, but a lot of
the businesses feel that it's being overhyped and the end
result is families are staying away. So the head that
off six hundred businesses have got together. Clearly the police
are super stretched anyway, but these six hundred businesses have
got together and said, right, we'll fund our own private
security patrols to keep the area safe. So that's where

(01:35:34):
we're at in London. The police are so stretched that
shops are clubbing together to pay private security. And that
stories out there today and they hope that families will
see this and think, actually, you know what, it is
safe to go into London.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
Jees, that's a pretty die. You've been talking about this
for a very long time. Into I appreciate it. Into
Brady UK Correspondent. It's eid away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
It's the Hither Duplas Alan Drive Full Show podcast on right,
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Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Hither. I'm just back from London and it is shite.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
I sort of I don't mind hearing this, by the way,
because I feel like so many of us are my
little brothers like this. When I say little, I mean
he's a fully grown man, but he, you know, always
little to the big sister. But lots of youngish people
are like this. They're like, I just want to move
to London and have a great life. I want to
move to Sydney and have a great life. So I'm
just going to tell you all the bad things happening
in those parts of the world so that you can
understand it's not all roses out there. Five away from

(01:36:32):
seven now I'm speaking of which I need to talk
about Tory Tory Fano because Tory is moving to Melbourne
as well, because you know, and we did talk about
this yesterday because she said she was going to do it,
but she didn't give her reasons yesterday and today she
has given her.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Reasons, and there are three reasons. Some of it is worked.
She says, there are very limited roles that align with
her experience in governance, leadership and politics. In New Zealand.
Second reason is she loves Melbourne. But the third reason
is the abuse.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
She says the intensity of political life in New Zealand
has become increasingly personal. Now, I am not going to
condone abuse, right, I mean, and I don't know where
Tory sits on the scale of abuse to criticism, right,
I think I think Tory has been criticized very heavily,
quite rightly. And look, maybe she looks at that and
she thinks that's abuse, and I don't think it's abuse.

(01:37:19):
Abuse is not okay. Criticism is okay, lots of criticism
when Tory's way, I'm okay with criticism. However, she cannot
complain about it being overly personal because it was Tory
who made it personal in the first place, wasn't it.
And Tory told us about her ADHD. Tory told us
about her alcoholism. Tory told us she's just volunteered, that

(01:37:39):
she was having to sell the car to pay the bills. Right,
if you make it personal, you cannot complain if it
is personal. But anyway, Tory is often I will share
the best of luck over in Melbourne. I'll find some
bad stuff going on in Melbourne. Tell you all about
it in a minute.

Speaker 12 (01:37:52):
Murder on the Dance stor by Sophiella speaks to the
class out tonight. News this out today that she is
coming to New Zealand. She'll be playing two shows. On
February the third shall be playing at the way cut
Ole Regional Theatre in Hamilton, and on February the fourth
shall be playing at James Hay Theater in christ Church.
If you want to go to that. The I believe
our sister stations Zidim has some tickets that they're giving away,

(01:38:13):
so he to their social media pages. But not right
now because sports talks about the staff. O.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Hey listen, I mean we have to talk about the
weird thing here. Why are you playing Hamilton and not
all clans?

Speaker 6 (01:38:22):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:38:22):
And I was looking at this, so why kind of
origional theater is just opening next year? It's brand new
in Hamilton. It's about thirteen hundred seats in the auditorium,
so I don't know how much it can feel, probably
more than that. So that's about the size of Spark Arena.
Hamilton's growing, you mean thirteen thousand, thirteen thousand, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Yes, it's going to say geez, that's a small concert Sophie,
what happened? Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:38:41):
Did I mean thirteen hundred? Anyway? Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
That's weird. It's weird. It's a can you do some research?

Speaker 12 (01:38:47):
Anscart it is thirteen hundred?

Speaker 8 (01:38:48):
Never mind?

Speaker 12 (01:38:48):
Okay, yeah, we don't Yeah, no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Is it thirteen hundred not thirteen thousand?

Speaker 23 (01:38:52):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:38:52):
Yeah, I lift a zero off.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
That's so bad. You are going to have to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
I want research on this ants for tomorrow, and I
want to understand what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Why is she gone to Hamilton or Auckland strange? Are
you okay with that? Are you okay with that? Issuing
of instruction to you?

Speaker 8 (01:39:06):
Yees?

Speaker 10 (01:39:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:39:07):
I can run of find it, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Okay. He's going to come back with facts on Sophie.
See you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
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