Full Show Podcast: 25 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.
Or it's Ryan Bridge on hither du for see Ellen
Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talks.
They'd be good.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Afternoon. It is seven after four, coming up on the
show the Stadium showdown fizzles outs. We'll look at the
employment confidence dat out today. Basically it's down, but the
weare is interesting. We'll keep you across the quake in
the South Islands. Plus what is the most successful long
term investment asset class? Do you think we'll answer that question?

(00:34):
After five Murray Olds in Australia and we're in London before.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Seven, Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's been two months now since the PM amputated Health
from Shane Vetti's list of ministerial jobs. In Comes the younger, smoother,
more direct, Simeon Brown. He got the job after the
polling numbers showed basically health was becoming a problem for
the government. It is still a big problem for the government.
Health is the second biggest worry for voters and older voters.

(01:04):
This is interesting. Older voters more worried about the state
of the health system and the most recent IPSOS survey
than the one before it. So the government had to act,
It had to do something, and it has. The health
budget now the biggest it's ever been national spending more
than Labour promised to it the last election. Since Simeon

(01:24):
took over, he's made and sold a compromise on Dunedin Hospital,
remember that debarcle. He's also announced ten thousand extra surgeries
will be performed by June. Ordinarily that would be excellent
and most welcome news, but today we've had senior doctors
complaining in the media about the fact that it's private

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hospitals will that will deliver the extra surgeries, not public ones.
One of these doctors is based in Northland. He said
it undermines the public system to have the private system
pecking up the public's slack. The surgeries will cost fifty
million dollars. Fifty million dollars for ten thousand surgeries. The

(02:07):
doctors reckon we could get more surgeries done in the
public system if the money was directed there. Here is
the problem with this argument and why nobody will be listening.
The very reason these patients are being seen to privately
is because they have been waiting for too long on

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the public list. Think of Grandma and her hip, or
the cataracts or the knee operation, whatever take you pack.
The doctors may well be right that it would cost
less to do more through health end Z, but the
fact is no one will care. Nobody who has been
waiting for years on a public list is going to

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complain that they went to Mercy Ascot for a new knee.
Nobody whose mum or dad, or sister or brother got
their operations sorded will care who did it, where the
doctor was from, whether they were paid publicly or privately.
If there's capacity in the private system, why not use it?
And this is why sime and Brown was brought in

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to bring down surgical wait times and guess what he liked.
Most voters don't care how the job gets done, Ryan Bridge,
And after four news talks there'd be nine ninety two
the numbered text. Healthy in Z speaking of have apologized
after an eleven year old girl was mistakenly admitted to
a mental health facility in the White Cuddo. The girl

(03:32):
was misidentified as a twenty year old woman who was
subsequently handcuffed by police and reportedly injected with antipsychotic drugs.
The eleven year old girl is both autistic and doesn't speak.
Kath Cronin is the TOFUTO Order for Healthy in zed
Deputy chief Executive. She's with me now, Hi, Kath, Oh,

(03:52):
good afternoon, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I know you want to apologize, so let's let's do
that quickly first.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Look, that's really important, so thank you for giving me
the time to do that. So I really do extend
my real apology to this girl and her family. This
has been traumatic for them and we're very sorry. We're
just going to continue to keep giving them all the
ongoing and kids care and support that they need.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Fair enough, So police hand you a girl who's eleven
and you admit her as a twenty year old woman.
How does that work?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
We need to really understand what's happened here, and I've
got to wait for the review to get down into
the absolute detail of what's happened. So we're going to
go step by step with clinical experts and our external
reviewers in with us to understand what did happen on
that over that Saturday.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
So you haven't yet asked the y Cato Health Center
or the Henry Bennett Center or the ED. You haven't
yet asked them how they identified this individual.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
We need to wait for the review. Look, it's really
important for me and my role to make sure I've
got facts, there's information around, but I need to give
the team and everyone else time to look into this
with the detail it deserves.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, but it's a simple question. Have you asked them
how they identified this person or not?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yes, I've asked them that and we're starting to work
our way through it.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
What did they respond with?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
They're responding with that. We're looking at our policies. We've
got policies and we need to go through those to
understand that the teams follow them on the day, and
that's what I've commissioned this review to do. We've escalated
it and usually our reviews can take some time. We're
going to have literinary report, you know, within the week.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Kath. I'm not asking what the policies and the processes are.
I'm asking what was done. They've told you what their
response was, why won't you tell us?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
No, they haven't got the details of that response yet,
So again, I'm going to wait on that review and
make sure when I do come and discuss with full
permission of the girl's family about what issues we can discuss. Well,
then I'll have facts to share with you.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Was she injected with hallo paradol, the antipsychotic drug.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
She look said, this is a privacy issue. The family
have asked us specifically not to share any details, and
so I'm going to stay with that at the moment.
We need to wait for the review.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Are there any long term health consequences for her from
this happening.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
We're following up with the family and the girl regularly
there and then we'll wait for anything else that will
come from the review, from any medication or treatment that
was done in that period of time.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
When somebody turns up at ed and let's say police
bring them, as was the case here, generally, what is
the policy. Do you check ID, do you try and identify,
particularly if there's a mental health then they turn up
in handcuffs, or do you just take the police's word
for it.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Look, I think that's a fair question to ask, and
you know, I've been talking with Acting District Commander Scott
Gemmel today where both both of our agencies need to
take carriage this of this and look into it with
some details. So that's that's what we we're outsitt of
at the moment.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Why did it take you two weeks to tell the minister.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Look, I think you know with the benefit of hindsight
that you know someone like they often has. I think
we could have done things very differently. We have followed
some processes and we're looking at why that notification didn't
go to the minister until just recently.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
All right, Kathie, leave it there. Thank you very much
for your time. That's cath Cronin to funt to order,
Deputy Chief Executive. Time is fourteen after four Bryan Bridge.
This is developing news. The National Emergency Management Agency has
issued a new warning after that big earthquake in the
South Island this afternoon. It's expected that New Zealand coastal
areas will experience strong and unusual currents and unpredictable surges

(07:57):
at the shore following a magnitude six point eight earthquake
near Southland this afternoon. Strong currents and surges can injure
and drown people. There is a danger to swimmers, surfers,
people fishing, and anyone in or near the water close
to shore. People in or near the sea in the
following areas should move out of the water, off beaches,

(08:20):
and shore areas and away from harbors, marinas, rivers and
estuaries areas under threat. This is according to the National
Emergency Management Agency, the west coast of the South Island
from Milford Sound to just south of Milford Sound. This
is a message from the National Emergency Management Agency, just

(08:42):
a warning that there are dangers to swimmers, surfers, people fishing,
and anyone in or near the water close to shore
after a six point eight earthquake near the Southland this afternoon.
We'll have more information on this after the break. It's
called a pass four.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's the Heather du Busiel and Drive Show podcast on
iHeartRadio powered by News TALKSZB This talks it B.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's eighteen minutes after four. Just a bit of a
heads up really from the National Emergency Management Agency. This
after a six point eight earthquake near south of this afternoon.
Basically the warning is get out of the water, don't
go near the water if you're near Milford Sound to
south to poigisappoint. This is south of Milford Sound. After

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the six point eight quake that was a near Southland.
It's strong and unusual currents they're expecting there and danger
to swimmers, surfers, people fishing, anyone in or near the
water or close to the shore. So if you do
happen to be around that area and close to the
water at the moment, then the advice is to not be.
It's just gone nineteen minutes after four Brian Bridge, Darcy

(09:48):
was Sport Darcy. Good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
They're tolf down south and look to myself, who's going
to be in the sea now down man? It's actually
hold on, it's Southland, plenty.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of probably a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Look after yourselves out there, full show.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Hey Whites are going to the Food of World Cup.
But it's quite an expanded field, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Well, not as big as the one hundredth anniversary, it's
gonna be even more. It's small guns. We've talked about
this before and we'll talk about it tonight with Darren
Bazy's going to join us on the show. The head
coach or the gaffer, the manager of the All Whites.
Getting there is one thing. Getting out of your group.
That's the new demand because previously getting there was tough.

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Yet to go through playoffs into continental playoffs, it was hard.
That's why I've only done twice when I say we.
I mean then he said on football teams, I had
nothing to do with it. But now with an easier
path because of direct qualification for Oceania, it's fairly simple.
You just have to beat the other Oceania teams.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Which we've done with.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Relative ease, although first fifty five off and it's yesterday,
it was a bit sketchy bit anyway or sixty minutes.
So now it's a case of getting to the finals
and actually getting out of the group playing game to
the next round of thirty two. So that's got to
be the news to be as well, and of course
it's not. That's going to be very difficult to a
World Cup.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Ended Rugby says no to the NZACT Day Test.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
And rightly so, because the idea is they wanted to
expand the idea instead of having two tests series, having
a three test series. So it happens every year, so
we've got to plead some cup maybe on the line
all the time. But when push comes to shove, it
would have fallen right in the middle of Super Rugby
Pacific season and INSI. I went, yeah, and I get that,

(11:28):
because what would happen is you basically have to take
all the All Blacks of import out of these Super
Rugby teams for a couple of weeks to the middle
of the Super season. It's hard enough as it is
when you hear this compulsory restaurantation with the All Blacks,
that's kind of devastated. The quality of Super rugby in
year has gone by. This time around is very much

(11:49):
a case by case, a player by player basis, Hey
is that guy exhausted, is a bit broken? What are
we going to do? So they're not taking all of
the best players from his ZWN point of view out
of Super Rugby and as a direct result getting a
much better product. I mean, you're getting their rest in
rotation because a lot of the beginning.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, can you've seen that. You've seen that on the field,
don't you? Darcy? Thank You'll see you tonight.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Thank you. Darren Bazy joining US tonight's talk about.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Sports talk host seven o'clock Tonight News Talks. He'd be
twenty one minutes after four, now, Ryan, even a chimpanzee
could work out. This girl was not twenty bloody disgusting.
This is healthy and Z I don't know. It's a
busy ed. The police come in with a with a
young person and say this is the mental health patient.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Do you question it?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You know, is that where this went wrong? Twenty one
after four news talks, he'd be.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Moving the big stories of the d forward. It's Ryan
Bridge on Heather Duper see Allen Drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
They'd be twenty four minutes after four great to have
your company this afternoon. A westpacx Employment Confidence Index numbers
for marchar in and the result is not great. Down
three point three points to eighty eight point three. Remember,
anything less than one hundred is negative. And this is
going and asking households, asking people, asking us how we

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feel about our job prospects, about you know, job opportunities,
about how much we expect to be paid. And we're
all feeling just a little bit bleaker than we were
in the previous quarter. In fact, we're down low where
we were during their COVID lockdown. That's how we're feeling
at the moment, well, at least up until March. Interesting though,

(13:27):
confidence was down in four out of eleven regions, but
the rest were actually either neutral or good. Auckland was down,
which obviously swings the results. Canterbury was down, but not
christ Church. It was outside of christ Church. It was
regional Canterbury, if you like. And they think that's probably

(13:48):
to do with the Smithfield Meat processing closure in Timaru.
But on the whole, looking at the whole country and
looking at the numbers from Westpac today, you would rather
be living in a rural farming area than you would
anywhere else in New Zealand at the moment. The economy
is just stronger there. Twenty six minutes after four really

(14:11):
interesting euthanasia numbers out of the Netherlands because we followed,
you know, obviously we changed our laws here and liberalized
and I personally agree with it. I think it should
be your decision. It's your life. If you are nearing
the end of it and you are in a whole
lot of pain, why shouldn't you have the choice. But
some interesting numbers, and their system over there is way

(14:33):
more liberal than ours, but people are trying to liberalize
ours even more. These numbers might be a warning. I'll
get to those a little bit later on. We'll look
at the electric boundary changes. Bad news for you, Greg O'Connor,
labor MP of o'hardo. You pretty much the only one
I think who's going to be in real trouble after
the changes that have been outs today and Eden Park,

(14:56):
the Auckland Stadium. Does anyone care? Does anyone really care
anymore because nothing's going to change. We've had We've had
the council gotta hype this up yesterday, didn't I something chronic? Today?
The leaddown the lead balloon from council officials. We'll have
the details from them.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Five News said, recamping the day's big news and making

(15:41):
tomorrow's headlines. It's Ryan Bridge on hither do for see
Ellen drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected news
talks that'd.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Be you.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Ye cold die weathered five.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
Fine, good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
That is twenty five away from five year old news talks.
They'd be After five we're going to look at the
stadium showdown in Auckland. We're also going to look at
the employment numbers out which aren't great. This is our
expectations of employment in New zealem we'll look at that
at ten past five. And the weird unusual asset classes
that you can invest in and probably should invest in,
like lego, wine and whiskey and how much better they

(16:31):
are performing for you than the stock market. We'll look
at that too, just if you're just joining us. There
is a bit of a warning from NIMA, which is
the National Emergency Management Agency. They've issued it in the
last half hour. It is a warning after this big earthquake,
six point out earthquake near south of this afternoon that
if you are on or near the coast around Milford Sound,

(16:52):
to stay out of the water, stay away from marinas
and rivers and estuaries. The danger to swimmers surface people
pushing anyone in an in or close to the water
or the shore can be injured, can people can drown
from events like this, So do take care and take
caution near Milford Sound this afternoon, twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
You'd have seen this today, but it just does not
get any less shocking. The US government officials accidentally including
a journalist in a private group chat where they discussed
plans to attack the Hooties and Yemen. The White House
confirming that the messages to the journalists saw the journalists
saw included information about the timing and the targets of
bombing attacks. They were authentic. Pete Higgsith, he's the Defense Secretary.

(17:40):
He's been asked about how this happened. He initially avoided
the question.

Speaker 9 (17:44):
You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so called
journalists who's made a profession of pedaling hoax his time
and time again.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Then when he asked where the question was asked again,
he just denied everything.

Speaker 9 (18:00):
Was texting war plans and that's all I have to
say about that.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
At the end end of the press conference, that was it.
The Australian federal government is making its budget announcement at
nine thirty this evening. You don't have to stay up
late for it, though heaps of the stuff in the
budget has already been late, so Murray Olds will be
able to give us the details shortly. Elbow is getting
this budget right, he says, it's been like trying to

(18:24):
land a seven four seven on a helicopter pad.

Speaker 10 (18:27):
Trying to get that inflation level down whilst making sure
we maintain employment, increase wages and defend people's living stand.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Finally, this afternoon, please this geese.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
They're trying to murder me.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
You have to watch white loaders to get that reference.
Former White Loaders star Jennifer Coolidge says the show has
been a big help to her love life. Collidge won
two Emmys and a Golden Globe for her work on
the show's first two seasons. She says that even though
her character Tanya was a complete weirdo Q, guys are
approaching her much more often than they were before she

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did the show.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
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Speaker 2 (19:14):
It is twenty two minutes away from five Murray Old's
Australia corresponds here Murray, good afternoon, Yeah, hi there here
you going good? Thank you? What's in the budget?

Speaker 11 (19:23):
Well, it's what we don't know. I suppose it will
be the most intriguing thing tonight. It's Jim Charmer's fourth
budget the opposition. Nice line from the opposition. It's a plan,
the opposition says, for the next five weeks, not the
next five years. And the five weeks reference of course,
until the next election. This is a budget the government
really didn't want. If it wasn't for cyclone, Alfred, I

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suspect very much that we'd already been in full campaign
mode because Anthony Albineze would have pulled the trigger already,
he couldn't because of the cyclone's impact on southeast Queensland
and northern New South Wales. So this is what we're
left with. And we know it's going to be about
cost of living. We already know, for example, there's going

(20:06):
to be one hundred and fifty bucks back and energy
payment to everybody is not means tested everyone in Australia,
so James Packer will get it, along with someone who's
homeless and unemployed. They'll all get a one hundred and
fifty dollar energy rebate. You're going to have massive spending

(20:26):
on health, on Medicare, supporting medicare, creating more payment free
visits to doctors. And basically there's so much uncertainty surrounding
his budget because what's going to happen in terms of
any new tariffs that might be applied against say pharmaceuticals

(20:47):
or Australian beef or other exports that Australia makes into
the United States. We simply don't know. There's so many
things that are up in the air, and it depends
entirely with Donald Trump's next move is in terms of tariffs.
So look it's a budget for the here and now.
It's a budget to get us to an election in

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the next few weeks. Peter Dutton has his budget reply
speech on Thursday. But I've read it at least one
analysis over here the last forty eight hours. There's a suggestion,
God help us, that Anthony Elberonezi will go to the
Governor General on Thursday this week and call the election
to take any wind out of Dutton's sales on Thursday

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night when he stands up in the Parliament to deliver
his budget reply. Look, that may just be complete hyperbole.
I don't know I've read it. I'm just putting it
out there. I haven't heard it from anyone. I don't
even know. I don't even remember. Actually, I had to
be honest where I read it. There might be some
evil conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Great to know your chicking the facts for us, Murray.

Speaker 11 (21:53):
Oh my facts sacred? You know that?

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Look at Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Facs Hey, Queensland. What's happening with the stadium? They've been
protests reviewed, even you know your premier is what's the deal?

Speaker 11 (22:05):
Well, I'll give you two figures. It was one thousand,
three hundred and forty three days ago. That Brisbane was
awarded the Games. There are now two thousand, six hundred
and seventy seven days out from the opening ceremony. They've
wasted an awful amount of time, but we finally do
have what the brand new government's landed on, and that

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is for those who know Brisbane, it's a beautifully laid
out city based around the Brisbane River and right there
at the northern edge of the CBD there's a glorious
bit of parkland right that's going to be the home
of the brand new Olympic Stadium. Locals are furious, well,
you know the locals who loved that bit of parkland.
They say it's the lungs of the city. But it's

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also an absolute primo venue for a brand new, multi
billion dollar Olympic stadium. They were looking at the Gabba.
The game has been around i think since eighteen nineties,
the eighteen nineties, but it's run down and clapped out.
It's also used for cricket of course, for cricket tests
and for Australian rules footy through the winter, so that's
been scrubbed. It's going to be a brand new pool

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and a brand new suburb that's going to be created
a bit like Sydney did twenty five years ago. They
built a brand new pool to accommodate twenty five to
thirty thousand spectators for the Olympic Games. That it was
scaled right back after the Games. That's going to happen
in Brisbane, and also a brand new suburb to house
all the athletes. That happened in Sydney, it's going to

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happen in Brisbane as well. Expect some more announcements in
the days they had and a whole lot more protest.
That's all I can say.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Fascinating. At least I've made a decision. Murray, Thank you. Murray.
Old's our Australia Correspondence with all the facts this afternoon,
seventeen away from five Ryan Bridge after five, we're going
to talk about our battle for a stadium, a national
stadium in Auckland, and it's just had a major roadblock.
That roadblock being Auckland Council's senior staff who've come out
and said it is not worth. We don't have enough

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public money to pump into a revamped Eden Park, and
we don't have enough public money to do the fancy
waterfront show stopper Pandy Dropper Stadium that everyone's talking about
that's getting people excited down there on the waterfront. So
basically we don't have enough money to do anything that.
Comparing us to Brisbane, at least they have an event

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that they're working up to. You know, they have seven
years now to get this thing done. At least there's
a timeline. We don't even have a timeline. We've basically
got nothing. But we'll talk about that after five News
Talks THEREB. Barri Soper next.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
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Speaker 2 (24:34):
News Talks Thereb. It is fourteen minutes away from five.
Barris soapis here. Hey Barry, good afternoon, right, good afternoon
to you. Now the boundary changes have been redrawn. The
big loser, but I'm.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Not so sure. Actually, right, don't you reckon Ahu does go,
there's no doubt about that. But essentially the Representation Commission
looks at numbers and electorates and Wellington's been fairly stagnant
when it comes to population. Really, if there was going
to be a new electorate or one taken away, I'm sorry,

(25:09):
it would have been here on Auckland. But they've resisted
that at the moment. But by creating two new electorates
in the Wellington region, Kenna, Peru and Kapati, they'll be
called they remove as you say, Ohru, Manna and Altaki.
Now the Wellington Electric of RONGATAI will absorb parts of

(25:30):
Wellington Central, including the suburbs of Mount Cork and Brooklyn.
Now they would be more sympathetic to the Greens. I
would imagine constituents in that area. And when you look
at Wellington Central, it would then take in parts of
a Harriu, including the more wealthy Wadestown, Nio and Kindala.

(25:53):
Now I wouldn't imagine that they won't be as sympathetic
to the Greens. So the loser in all of this
be Tamitha Paul of the prisons being full of impoverished
people and not violent people, and a visitor to the
convicted killer Dean Wickliffe saying that he should get out
before he dies of his Honger strike. So she's got

(26:16):
the Wellington Central electorate with six thousand and six thousand majority.
Now I think she will be more concerned about these
boundaries than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I agree with you, but she will the Greens I
think will keep her high on the list knowing that yes, indeed.
And then Greg O'Connor is obviously he's the electorate only
they're not going to put him homeless, so he's the
one that's out of a job.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
That's actually a very good point the public. They can
make submissions now until basically written, until the twenty seventh
of April, and then counter objections and finally will see
the final boundaries on the eighth of August.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
There's what's the Green's dirty word?

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Oh my goodness me and I was listening to Parliament
again today. I think we all know what it is,
and it's called profit. The Greens were once again showing
their economic knowledge when it came to questioning the Prime
Minister in the House today. First it was the co
Leader Chloe Swarbrick having a go at the government for
its drive to encourage foreign investment to this country. Clearly,

(27:23):
there's a dirty word in the Greens vocabulary. Like I said,
it is profit. It seems these investors should come to
New Zealand because they love the country and they should
treat us as a charity. Haven't listened to Swarbrick's line
of questioning.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
To the companies that the Prime Minister is asking to
build our schools, roads and hospitals want to make a profit.

Speaker 12 (27:45):
That they may well do, and I would hope they
would want to see a return. But what I'm excited
about is that there is massive interest from investors who
want to build public infrastructure in New Zealand, and the
benefits to New Zealanders economically, socially and environmentally are profound.

Speaker 13 (27:59):
Will that the private companies make through his governments intended
public private.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Partnerships stay in altero in New Zealand or go offshore.

Speaker 12 (28:09):
Well, again, our focus is on attracting investment to New
Zealand so we can get public infrastructure built.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
It's about economics. But later in questions to luxon the
other co leader of the Greens marvel with Davidson, she
was again using that dirty word when it came to
the public health system, which you mentioned in your editorial,
using private hospitals to reduce waiting lists, which they've been
doing now in this country for many years. You could

(28:37):
be forgiven for lux And pulling out his hair if
he had any to pull out, but this was his
rationale against Davidson when it came to farming out work
to the private sector.

Speaker 12 (28:49):
You're lying on a bed looking up at a selling
You're less hung up as to whether it's been done
in a public system or a private system. You just
want relief done as quickly as possible.

Speaker 14 (28:57):
Does he think New Zealanders will be happy to know
that our collective resources are being spent on helping private
companies make profit of healthcare.

Speaker 12 (29:09):
I think when New Zealanders are facing a massive witless
for elective surgeries and getting access to first specialist appointments,
what they want is a government that's focused on patients
and outcomes for patients.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Yeah, well, i'd say here here to that. I mean, honestly,
profit is clearly not expected by the Greens on anything.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, Berry, I don't know if I can handle these
sessions any longer. If you keep coming in here and
bringing us grabs from Parliament like that, I don't know
how much longer we can do this. It just, I mean,
it will put us in hospital if we keep listening
to it.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
The mind boggles, doesn't it know?

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Really, When you listen to the logic behind some of
these questions, you think, hang on, is this person in
the same country as us.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Are they on the same wavelength.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
The answer is they're in the same country but on
the same way length.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Barry Soper, senior political correspondent at news Coalk zed be
great to have you. As always, it is nine minutes
away from five.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, some mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 15 (30:13):
Desire mister joint us, tell me how you can have
a wind farm? The wind farm was rejected under the
previous government's fast train it right, So how is it
you can't have a renewable facility under fast say?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
What do you need to do well?

Speaker 16 (30:25):
First of all, that's under Parker's old fast track provisions.
That was insanely stupid. What we've got under our fast
tracked legislations. Our priority is on economic growth.

Speaker 15 (30:33):
But then you've got these issues. For example, a council
stopping the clock on building is one. How much resistance
are you facing from people who will use every mechanism
possible to stall you, slow you and run their own agenda.

Speaker 16 (30:45):
We're pretty clear eight about it, which is that we're
facing a massive culture in New Zealander.

Speaker 15 (30:49):
No back tomorrow at six am. The mic asking breakfast
with the rain drover of the laugh News talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Five away from five. Somebody has said, did Barry just
use the word logic and greens in the same sentence.
There is no logic to any of their brains. I
would like to think. I would like to think that
there is. I'd like to think that there is a
nice middle ground where you can kumbai our on a
whole bunch of stuff, including health. But I just don't
think we're anywhere near close to it at this point.

(31:16):
Another is Ryan, have you been to fullsythe bar or
to the cake Tin? Both dumps? They're both dumps. Give
me Eden Park any day. I can drive and walk
in ten minutes to the ground. I have zero desire
to go to the city where the homeless and scumbags
are living. Leave it to the leafy suburb of Mount
Eden right by Auntie Helen. Okay, quite a firm view

(31:39):
on where the stadium should be. We'll talk about that
after five o'clock. Watch out this week for the government's announcement.
Remember we spoke to Nichola Willis last night about this.
The government is going to make an announcement on the
supermarket crackdown. They're going to try and open up Cabinets
made a decision. Nichola Willis told us that last night
they're going to try and open up and attract a
new large supermarket player to set up shop here in

(32:02):
New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (32:03):
There are real barriers to a large scale new entrant
and the point is that it's good having a niche
grocery provider open, but unless you get someone who's opening
up multiple stores, it's hard to get that competition impact.
So that's something I've been engaging with a range of
smaller players and that's something I've identified and it's clear

(32:25):
to me that the government will need to take further
action in this space. Cabinet has made some decisions here
and we will be making announcements in the next week.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
There you go. So that was last night. Keep your
eye up for an announcement on that this week. The
big question for the government is how when super markets
are so profitable right now, if you were an international player,
you'd be looking at this market surely saying I want
to get in there. If you're going to make it
less profitable, who's going to want to come here then? Anyway,
we look at the stadium and we'll look at employment

(32:56):
after fight.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
So questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust

(33:32):
for the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy Allen
Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
That'd be good evening at a seven, half to five.
I'll look at the employment numbers in just a second
right now, though, the stadium showdown for our national Stadium
in Auckland. Auckland Council staff have been looking into this.
Do you jazz up Eden Park? Do you go for
the glitzy new waterfront stadium with a fifty thousand capacity?
Which one are you going to go for? The council

(34:00):
staff have come back and said basically neither. Neither proponent
has demonstrated that their proposal is feasible without significant public funding.
Now the council will vote on this on Thursday. This
on the same day Brisbane announces a sixty thousand capacity
brand spanking News stadium that will open for the Olympics
in twenty thirty two. Shane Henderson is with me tonight.

(34:21):
He's the Auckland Counselor and chair of the Stadium working Group.
Good evening, John, how's it going good? Thank you?

Speaker 10 (34:27):
So?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Is that about right? The staff have said neither is
going to work financially.

Speaker 17 (34:35):
Yes, staff have said there's issues with both proposals, particularly
financially what the key Park proposal is also kind of
further difficulties around kind of the technicality of what they're
trying to do down there. So yeah, both bids have
some issues exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So what was the point in getting council staff to
look at them in the first place.

Speaker 17 (34:54):
Well, I think we've got to get the people in
the room that can kick the tires on the finances
and every other kind of aspect of it to give
us that advice that's come back and advanced Thursday and
it said, look, they're both fighting to a draw. Well,
I think, honestly, Ukland is one a bit more certainty
than that, and I think it's still open to us
to endorse one of the two options.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
So what do you expect will happen on Thursday That
there'll be a stay of proceedings, you know, let's pause
until we can get more information.

Speaker 17 (35:21):
I think that's an option, is to stay the proceedings
and let it sort of set for a bit and
get more and so and let teams work on it.
But another option, honestly is to put on the table
one of the two options and get counselors to vote
on it, and if it does pass, then we've got
some certainty for Aucklanders and the team that is successful
can go ahead and work on those issues.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Anyway, which one would you vote for?

Speaker 17 (35:42):
Look, honestly, I'm leading towards eden Park two point one.
At the stage we can stage that development so that
it can the risk is a bit more manageable and honestly,
looking at the report and the advice, they've got a
few less issues of the two.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But here's the thing with eden Park that's going to
cost tax payers. They want to hunt million dollars to
jazz it up. You know. Yeah, that's all very well
and good for you to vote for, but what about
the rest of the country. I'm going to be happy
with that.

Speaker 17 (36:10):
Yeah, I can understand that. And look, as part of
our process is Augland Council. We've been very clear that
ratepayers money is not in the equation and so they
need to knock on some doors themselves, even Parker choosing
to knock on the government store. And I'd suggest that
if any kind of private funding they can attract would
be very appropriate as well, we don't know what the
outside is from the government, all.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Right, Shane, thanks very much for being with me. Shane Henderson,
who is the chair of the Stadium Working Group organd counselor.
It is ten auf to five people around the country
feeling pretty pessimistic about their chances of getting a job.
The wes Pac McDermot Miller Employment Confidence Index, which is
where you go out and ask people how are you
feeling about your job prospects, it's dropped to eighty eight
point three. That is the lowest level since September twenty twenty,

(36:53):
which was after the lockdowns, So that's not a great
stat Michael Gordon's Westpac senior Econosty's with me. Now, Hi, Michael,
good afternoon. Why are things looking so Why are people
feeling so grim?

Speaker 18 (37:04):
Well, I think it's the reality of jobs are still
pretty hard to come by. We hear from certainly from
businesses that while they're some of them are having trouble
fillings more specialist roles, but they're tending to find that
there's generally a lot of people available, and some of
them also finding themselves a bit overstaffed having held on
to people through the downturn, So there's just not a

(37:27):
lot being advertised at the moment, and that's rarely been
the biggest driver of that perception that things are pretty
tough in the jobs market at the moment.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Depends where you live, though, doesn't it. I mean, you
look at some of the regions and actually things are
looking quite good.

Speaker 18 (37:43):
It varies a bit, I think, probably more so in
terms of earnings and the job opportunities is what's coming
through in our survey. Whither I will obviously the exceptions.
I think there's been stories about quite a bit of
activity around recent and parts of the West Coast as well,
But generally we sort of found that there's sort of
a bit more variation in It's sort of more the

(38:07):
farming areas where they're seeing some pretty decent gains from
high dairy and beef prices. Is not necessarily flowing out
into spending in the wider regions yet, but certainly those
more directly linked to it are finding things a bit
better than those of us in the cities.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Michael, When is it going to get worse? When does
it end? And and you know, when does the confidence return?

Speaker 18 (38:32):
The labor market tends to be one of the slower
things to turn with the cycle. So even if you
consider those GDP figures we had last week, so we've
got some growth out of it, it's probably the underlying pictures.
It's not really out stripping population growth at the moment.
So it'll take a bit more than what we've seen

(38:52):
to date to sort of really actually be able to
start to generate some jobs. And and as a result
of that, we're expecting the unemployment rate is going to
go a bit higher this year before it peaks. We're
not talking, you know, peak, really high peaks compared to
what we've seen in some past cycles, but you know,
undoubtedly it's you know, it's quite a bit different from
where we were a couple of years ago when there

(39:13):
was very you know, we're all very low rates of unemployment.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
All right, Michael, thanks so much for your analysis. Michael Gordon,
Westpac Senior Economists, twelve minutes after five. Coming up in
a few moments, we're going to talk to somebody who's
been studying investment trends, returns on investments for some pretty
weird alternative assets. But it's fascinating because they're looking at
you know, your stop, your traditional your stock market your property.

(39:38):
What are your average earnings per year versus some more
obscure investments like wine, like whiskey, even lego. That'll be
interesting chat coming away in just a few minutes very quickly.
Some stats on euthanasia from the Netherlands. Because the reason
this is significant is because we passed euthanasia legislation in

(39:58):
New Zealand to dying and it's to help those who
are at the end of their life. We now have
people pushing to expand the scope and the definition so
that more people can have access to that, and it's
all based on the system from the Netherlands. Now, the
Netherlands have just released some stats. In the past year,
euthanasia was up ten percent, which is unusual because it's

(40:23):
not new there. It's the oldest and broader system in
the world. Deaths have gone from nine thousand to ten thousand,
which is significant. Doctors are worried specifically about psychiatric illness,
mental illness and dementia. That number increased from one hundred
and thirty eight in twenty twenty three to two hundred

(40:43):
and nineteen in twenty twenty four. So some are saying, well,
this is natural as you get aging population but others
are saying, this is why you shouldn't include mental illness,
things like dementia and your definitions, because you start to
open up four people to you know, to end their
lives legally and with the assistance of a doctor, when

(41:08):
that is not exactly what you want when you're setting
the legislation out in the first place, and certainly not
what people intended. Fourteen after five Newstalk SVB News Talks
HEB Seventeen minutes after five, somebody has texted to say
how much are the Ossie's going to spend on this
new stadium in Brisbane. I can tell you that they
have revealed today. This is the stadium they've announced today

(41:28):
that is sixty thousand capacity that will be open in
time for the twenty thirty two Olympics. Three point eight
billion Australian dollars for a sixty thousand capacity. Seventeen after
five new research shows that you might be better off
investing your money into Whiskey and Lego rather than the
share market. Whiskey came out on top with an average

(41:50):
annual return of seventeen point five two percent over ten years,
while more traditional investing into the S and B five hundred,
for example, return just twelve percent a year over a
long period. Gertja and verdict is the University of Auckland
finance lecture. Who's been looking into this is with me now,
good evening, Thank you for having me. How realistic is

(42:10):
that making lots of money off Lego?

Speaker 8 (42:14):
Well, it's not really that realistic in terms of percentage
is amazing, but we're talking about actual small amounts of money.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
How much have you found people are investing in stuff
like lego or whiskey.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
More than than you would think. So Lego is slowly
building up, but the drinkable so wine and whiskey, especially
since the pandemic has increased significantly.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Give us the numbers. What what is you know? The
top three owners.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
So in terms of actual percentage, like whiskey is by
far number one. Then we have baseball cards, which also
has as a very nice return than we are at
wine and Lego.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So baseball cards, let's peck them out. So between nineteen
eighty seven and twenty twenty three they posted an every
annual return of thirteen percent a year, which is incorrect
more than the S and P five hundred return per
year over twenty years. That's correct, yes, And I mean,
what is this research telling us we should go and

(43:15):
pile our money there.

Speaker 8 (43:17):
No, definitely not. What this research shows is that there
is value in adding an additional component to your traditional
portfolio of stocks and bonds, because having something real, something tangible,
is worth something, and it can produce a very nice
additional return on top of your normal portfolio.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Do you have any little extra or alternative investments yourself.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
So, I'm myself a wine expert. I do research on
wine as well, so I have a small proportion of
my portfolio dedicated to wine, and I'm also consulted for
wine investment funds, which I do not disclose in the book.
So all the examples in the book are not something
I'm affiliated with.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Ah, so are the funds that will manage your money
for you and invest in alternative assets like this, because
I mean, for your average punter, learning about baseball cards
or lego or whatever it might be, you know, quite
a time consuming thing to do.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
So that's something we actually show in the book. So
you have a direct investment where you can actually go
and buy your lego set, but we also offer a
lot of indirect options as well. So Art for instance,
there's growing platforms online where it can buy a small
piece of art but also wine. As I mentioned the
wine investment funds Whiskey similar issue, similar thing. You have

(44:44):
whiskey investment funds as well. So there are indirect options
which we clearly show what the benefits are also what
the disadvantages are.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Within the book, Dan give us you a hot tip
on wine. What should we be buying?

Speaker 8 (44:58):
So Australian w is actually pretty pretty good at the moment.
So think about your pen Falls for instance. That is
something that there's growing interest across the world. People are
moving away from your traditional Bordeaux French style line and
moving more into this Californian, Australia and Argentinian wines.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Hard thing about that, and you mentioned pen Folds is
actually keeping it and not drinking it exactly.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
There's a small imsen consumption and investment.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
This certainly is gets you on, thank you for your time.
Getsion verdict who's University of Auckland finance lecturer, and the
verdict is out. Basically, your wine collection is worth something.
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Speaker 1 (46:40):
Satellite Informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on
Hither duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand. Let's get
connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
The'd be by twenty five on news talks. There'd be
great to have your company this evening. So the Representation
Commission has come out with their decision today and welling
Toon is losing an electorate. O'hariu will be gone, Mana
and Autucky electorates will also be gone, but more moved
and renamed than anything else. Ohariu is the one that's

(47:13):
really gone. They had to delete one from the North
Island due to the population changes. Basically, there are quotas
that must be met in order to have a certain
number of electorates, and there are fewer people living in
the Lower North Island of New Zealand and you've got
to keep things equal. The Lower North Island population is

(47:34):
below the target quota, which is actually true of Auckland
as well. But what they've done is taken into account
population growth projected population growth. So while Wellington is below
quota and Auckland is below quota, they've gone well Auckland
is going to increase, whereas Wellington's population is expected to decrease.
So lots of movement on the boundaries, too many to list.

(47:56):
But the wain thing you need to take away from
today is that a har Au is gone and that
means that Greg O'Connor, Labor MP is gone. Why because
he went electorate only. Remember last time, last election he
said he would quit if he didn't hold onto his
electorate seat. Now the seat is gone. Therefore, ipso facto,

(48:21):
so is Greg O'Connor. Ryan Bridge past past, goodbye Greg O'Connor.
Good evening twenty seven After five news talks EB A
lot of key was working. How would Greg be? Probably
close to maybe over seventy A lot of people working
over the age of sixty five? News stats for you
after six?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh aren't you on? Need you old girl?

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Lead?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
It is beautiful season. Oh on the iHeart app. And
in your car on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge
on Heather Duplicy Allen Drive with one New Zealand. Let's
get connected news talks, they'd be coming myself, Joy tell me.

Speaker 16 (49:12):
Every week fifty gone tells.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Twenty five away from sexier on news talks, there'd be
after sex We're gonna look at those who are over
the age of sixty five and still working. Guess how
many people over ninety are still working in New Zealand.
Twelve hundred Pretty impressive right now. Earlier, just well, just
before news I said, how old was Greg O'Connor and
postured that perhaps he was over the age of seventy. Well,
he's sixty six years of age, Ryan, I reckon greg o'

(49:44):
connor would be sixty seven, Simon, you were close. Another says, Hi,
this is for Greg O'Connor. How's the Johnsonville Mall redevelopment progressing?
If for anyone who knows anything about Johnsonville Johnsonville Mall, well,
the reason you don't is because we don't go there.
There's nothing to The redevelopment has been in the works
for possibly death. In fact, I think since the eighties,

(50:07):
since the thing has been going. So there you go,
Ohari you the electric no more? And Greg O'Connor, well,
no he's not no more, but his time as the
MP is no more. Twenty four minutes away from six Cranbridge,
event promoter Brent Eenkles has made a suggestion for how
to avoid another Juicy Fest De Barkle They to catch

(50:29):
you up on this. The promoter of the Juicy Fests
and Timeless Summer events have gone bust. It's looking like
people who bought their tickets to those events won't be
able to get refunds because the money's well, it's all gone.
Brent Eckles of Eckles Entertainment spoke to Matt and Tyler
on ZB afternoons. He says ticketing companies should be forced

(50:50):
to hold on to all the ticket money until after
an event has actually happened.

Speaker 18 (50:54):
The only effect would be that the punter is protected
and if things go wrong and do go wrong and
go wrong for there as well. But you know that
the money, the ticket money goes straight back to the
ticket buyer as the very person you do it for
show is canceled.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
So how would this work with smaller productions? Owen Evans
is an event promoter managing director of Low Fire Productions.
Hello Owen, good, but how are you good? Thank you?
So how does it normally work if it's particularly a
smaller event. Would you hold on to the money and
till the event or do you need to spend it? First?

Speaker 19 (51:33):
Look that this is very nuanced. We've been on both sides.
We're dealing with an industry with a massive lack of
integrity a lot of the time. So whereas I don't
have the answer, but I will say the sides that
we are. We if the ticketing company held onto the

(51:54):
ticketing money until after the event, we wouldn't be able
to throw events. We we rely on early bird ticketing
and ticketing systems to get cash flow and so that
we can throw events. Now where of the size where
we that where how we work is we will we
will throw four or five smaller gigs a year, club

(52:15):
gigs to get money in the bank, and then we'll
take a risk on a festival and usually most of
the time festivals lose money. We do it for the
love and the passion. It's just the size we are.
We're also we'relso housing techno in a country that predominantly
predominantly loves drum and bass, so we're always up against it.
But if we didn't have that cash flow, we wouldn't

(52:36):
be able to to run. Basically, so you.

Speaker 20 (52:39):
Would kill You would kill a lot of.

Speaker 19 (52:43):
Small time promoters like myself if you went down that track.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
What's the reason gigs are normally canceled? Is it? Is
it usually because the artist pulls out, or you know,
because they often give the excuse, you know, un forseen
circumstances or whatever. What's the real reason it stopped?

Speaker 20 (53:01):
Well, I.

Speaker 8 (53:04):
Don't know.

Speaker 19 (53:06):
For us, the only the only time we struggled to
pay people was either a knock on effect from from
not being paid by other people or things like the
floods and COVID and we we had to we had
to dig into our own pockets to pay that or
I think with the I think with COVID we had

(53:26):
to do a couple more gigs to get the money
and to pay the past bills. But yeah, if if
if an act cancels, we're so far we're so far
away from everything that, like, if an act cancels, you
can't just replace it with another DJ or act because
we don't have that level of quality and pull in

(53:48):
the z We have acts that are amazing, But if
you have an act that pulls ten thousand people and
then they pull out, like you can't replace theme like
she had or something and expected to work like.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Answer, So the tyranny of distance. Owen, I appreciate you
coming on the show mate, thanks for your time. Yeah, no,
it's thanks boy, cheers Owen. It's on Evans. He's an
event promoter, pushing back a little bit at this idea
that you should get all big festivals, small festivals, any
size festival to hold onto all the ticket money until
the event has actually been held to avoid another juicy

(54:23):
fest twenty to six.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the ones
with local and global reach.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
On the Huddle tonight, Ali Jones, red pr good evening,
Ali Gooday?

Speaker 21 (54:35):
How are you right?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Good? Thank you? And Nick leggets with us to Infrastructure
New Zealand. Hey Nick, Hello, So how do we feel
about taxpayer funding for a revamped A bit of lipstick
on Eden part to the tune of one hundred million dollars.
This is what they have proposed. Auckland councils get to decide.
They're going to decide on Thursday. Ali, how do you feel?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Well?

Speaker 21 (54:58):
Look, I'm stoked about our what do you call it? Stadium?
Thank you?

Speaker 22 (55:03):
That's the word I'm looking for, which is due to
open next year. And I think one of the things
that a number of people have been saying for a
while is, because of course these things always create conversations
and arguments and disagreements, is that it's never going to
get any cheaper, right, So whatever the decision is, I
think it needs to be made. One of the things
that I've noticed is reading up a bit about this,
because you know, I don't really care about what's.

Speaker 21 (55:24):
Built in Auckland.

Speaker 22 (55:25):
Ryan, is that the transport is a real issue here,
and you tell me this, but apparently there are limited
transport options and limited by the Kingsland station. I do
know where that is and I have used it, and
I would have thought that a stadium in the middle
of the city is the way to go. Isn't that
going to bring in many economic benefits?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, although we do have the supposedly we do have
the City rail Link coming which should help, which should
help with that situation. But the other issue here is
the one hundred million dollars from the government that they're
one that.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
Yeah, well, I mean these things are expensive. I agree
with Ali though that make a decision and get it going.
But I do care about what goes on in Auckland.
That's such a massive part of our economy and a
massive part of our country. So they do need to
get this right. And also I think being connected to
public transport and other transport. You know, you think about

(56:24):
connection to the shore, new connection hopefully to the North Shore,
another harbor bridge option or tunnel, and also, as you say,
the City rail link. It's really important. This is central
It's also really important that we don't just see it
as a stadium in isolation. What can go around it?
Places for people to work, places for people to shop,

(56:47):
places for people to live. We've got to stop thinking
about these things as sort of singular pieces of infrastructure.
It's about what can you grow around it? And yeah, look,
I'm city center all the way, and we've got to
build the sort of connections that we need so people
can get to it and get around it.

Speaker 22 (57:06):
You are so right, though, Nick, about changing the mindset
about it just being a stadium. That was a big
part of what we did in christ Church. So you know,
we didn't even use the words stadium. We used the
phrase multi use arena or multi use stadium. And now
they're calling it a multi functional arena. And you're absolutely right.
It cannot be a place that you know, lights up

(57:28):
when there's an event and then dies when there's nothing happening.

Speaker 21 (57:31):
That's just not the way.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Hey, I've seem to remember a figure of about six
hundred million dollars for Takaha. Is that on budget? And
how far far how far away is it from opening?

Speaker 21 (57:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (57:43):
On budget on time, six hundred and eighty three million
all up, and that was with government contribution as well.
So the council put four hundred and fifty three in
and government put in two hundred and thirty and that
came from a number of different funds and things.

Speaker 21 (57:56):
After the earthquakes. They started building it in.

Speaker 22 (57:58):
April twenty twenty two and on track to be open
in April twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
That sounds like a steal to me right now. I'm
just reading about in Brisbane they've announced today their Olympic
Stadium opening twenty thirty two. The cost is three point
eight billion Australian for a sixty thousand capacity.

Speaker 22 (58:16):
But twenty twenty two it started, and you know how
construction costs have gone up, so you know, with those
sorts of figures, it's not unreasonable to expect that kind
of cost.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, good point, Ellie Jones read pr Nick leg Get
back in just a few moments and we're going to
pick Allie's brain about some quite controversial comments on disability
car parks.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Find you all, what of a kind news talk, said b
Allie Jones and Nick Leggett on the huddle tonight. Nick,
you were obviously former mayor of Puttydor and some big
boundary electric boundary changes have taken place which will affect Mana,
which is where Pottydor is. Give people a sense of
what the change means for you know you your average voter.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Well, yes, I mean Mana was formed in nineteen ninety
six when MMP came on the scene, and it was
great because we finally had an electorate that covered the
whole of put It to a city which is now
a city of approaching sixty thousand people, not insignificant, and
actually I think it helped bring the city together because

(59:22):
Mana will put It is very diverse, lots of different
socioeconomic groups, lots of different cultural and ethnic groups, and
I think we've been more together as a result of
having one electra. So I'm not wrapped at this. It
takes us back to first pass the post days when
the northern part of the city went up to Carpody.

(59:43):
Carpety Coast has its own electric now with this new
bit of putt It and obviously the Orhardi electorate really
gets sort of split three three ways. But it goes
to south, it goes to Welling and Central and then
quite a big bit goes into Mana. So look, I've
got no problem with unifying North Wellington and put it on.

(01:00:03):
I mean, I'm a big fan of amalgamation in the region.
We only need one council here, so you know, perhaps
that might bring things along there. But yeah, so sad
for me, but I sort of understand. You know, Wellington
in the region is not growing like other parts of
the country, so we've lost an electric seat. That's the
consequence people. When you don't grow your population and you

(01:00:23):
don't grow your economy and you don't get it together
as a region, you lose stuff. And we've got to
do better there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Ellie, I want to talk to you about the disability
car parks thing. So is how's your week been.

Speaker 21 (01:00:40):
It's been challenging. Thanks for asking.

Speaker 22 (01:00:42):
My god, the pearl necklace clutching and outcry was just extraordinary, Ryan,
I don't know what you understood from from what was reported.
Why was it even a story? What I said was,
does anyone ever see these five or so car parks
mobility car parks Roliston av in christ Church? Does anyone
ever see them used? Because you know I'm down there

(01:01:05):
a bit. I cycle down there just quietly and go
to the Loomier Cinema and the Art Center and the gardens,
and I never or very very rarely see any vehicle
in there at all. So I just posted it. Does
anyone ever see it? It's crazy if they're not used. Well,
I've been told to resign. My behavior is appalling. I've
been despicable, behaved in an entitled and privileged way. And

(01:01:28):
the echo chamber pylon was what you'd expect on something
like Facebook. So what I did was engage with everyone.
I don't do the post and ghost thing. So I
engaged and I repeated back what people were accusing me of.
So are you saying that elective members should not ask questions.

Speaker 21 (01:01:45):
About et cetera?

Speaker 18 (01:01:46):
Set?

Speaker 8 (01:01:47):
Do you know?

Speaker 21 (01:01:47):
I had people just not even bother responding.

Speaker 22 (01:01:50):
So they have a poke, they have a go, and
then they just don't engage, and it's just cowardly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Really, did you get an answer to your question? Did?

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
It has anyone's right? So what is it?

Speaker 21 (01:02:01):
And it was great? And it was great.

Speaker 22 (01:02:02):
The answer was yes. So I had one person come
on and say no, I'd never seen anyone in them,
And then I had about half a dozen to eight
come on and say yes I use them, or yes,
my husband and I use them when we go to
the gardens. Another woman said yes, and we need more
at the hospital because I can never find one there.
And so it was actually a really good conversation on

(01:02:25):
my page until we got these bloody pearl necklace handbag clutching,
you know, outraged people just turning it into a political
storm that it didn't need to. So, yes, it was useful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I think, Look, I'm with you, Nick. I don't know
about you, but I'm with Ali. You should be able
to ask questions like that. You know, it doesn't matter
how controversial it might seem. You need to be able
to ask some basic questions about whether a city is
functioning well or not.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
I'm completely with Elie the job of an elected representative.
We want to ask more questions in this country. There's
too much head nodding. Now. I don't know whether what
the answer to Ali's question is. It doesn't matter. The
principle is that you're elected to ask questions on half
of your community, and there's no You shouldn't assume any

(01:03:17):
agenda from a question. You should just take it at face.
Value and answer it. So Alie, congratulations. We need more
people like you in public office and all power to you.

Speaker 21 (01:03:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
There you go, Eli, how's that? Does that made the word.

Speaker 21 (01:03:33):
I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to run from there now.
Thanks Nate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
That's awesome, all right, Ellie Jones, Red pre Nick leg
get Infrastructure New Zealand on the Huddle tonight. Thanks guys.
I've got an update on how many people in New
Zealand over the age of sixty five are still working,
and an update on the story that we spoke about yesterday,
the rabbit Os speaking of older workers, the rabbit Os
mascot who is eighty years old who legly punched a

(01:04:01):
child at one of their games. He's issued a statement,
so we'll update you on that one too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
News TALKSB. It is five minutes away from six. So
the South Sydney mascot, this is the rabbit Oz the
NRAL team. The South Sydney mascot has apologized. He's eighty
one years old. His name's Charlie Galico. He's apologized for
pushing a child during an NRL match against the Cronella Sharks.

(01:04:35):
Reggie the Rabbit for those who know NRL, he's the
mascot Ready the Rabbit, So there's an eighty one year
old man inside the rabbit costume, and there was video
of him moving through the player's tunnel at the Shark
Stadium during the recent match pushing a child. Now he's
issued an apology and said I'd like to apologize to
young Benji and his parents. My actions were wrong. I

(01:04:57):
should never have pushed Benji or any child for that matter,
the way that I did on Saturday. I hope they
can forgive me and accept my apology. I love this club,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Anthony Albanezy got involved.
It was all hullabaloo, and he's apologized and I think
it all as well. I don't even think he has
to hang up his bunny costume. I think he's staying
on now. Meghan and we will talk about people over

(01:05:21):
the age of sixty five working totally unrelated. They're not
all violent after six o'clock. Meghan Markle speaking of people
who shouldn't be working because it's just infuriating. She's launched
a website today selling some design bits that she is
wearing in her latest TV show for Netflix. If you've
seen it, it's horrendous. One of the items a pair

(01:05:44):
of brown leather slip on sandals, retail for five hundred
and ninety five pounds pounds. How relatable. And the website's
name I wrote it down. The website's name.

Speaker 23 (01:05:58):
Is look come on right, our listeners all tea ply
wanting to go there and buy all this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Stuff in the website if you're interested. She's told her
two point six million Instagram followers, so if you're one
of them, you'll know. But the name was something like
the Duchess of Sussex, you know, using that name, and
I just thought, oh, how techy, how techy to be
selling a six hundred pound pair of sandals using the

(01:06:22):
Royal mona.

Speaker 23 (01:06:23):
If you're going to sell them for that much, Ryan,
you probably want them people to know that there are
duchesses sandals.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
That's right, That is a good point. Otherwise, what's the point,
you know? Warehouse sandals three to six.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
The keeping track of where the money is flowing. The
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Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Six on newstalks B brad Olsen coming very shortly on
the cherry export boom that we're experiencing. Jamie McKay joins
us in Endebrady in the UK, where the labor government
is reportedly apparently eyeing up cuts to the school lunch program.
Quite ironic right now. Data shows that kiwis continue to
work well past the age of retirement sixty five in

(01:07:17):
New Zealand. This is stats in z Data out today
Reports says two hundred thousand senior citizens are still in
the workforce. More interestingly, twelve hundred people still working hard
today are in their nineties. Martin Hawes is a financial
advisor and author of Retirement Ready. He's with me tonight, Hi, Martin, Yeah, Hi,

(01:07:40):
they're Ryan. That's wonderful actually to hear twelve hundred ninety
plus year olds in the workforce.

Speaker 24 (01:07:47):
Yes, yes, it is. I'm you know, I'm not sure.
They won't be working full time. They won't do six
hours a week or forty hours a week. You know,
a lot of them will probably be professionals who you know,
they toddle back into the office, you know, once a
week or so to have a look and act as
a consultants or something to the firm. Some of them

(01:08:08):
will be self employed, They'll be doing clerical work. That
could be the odd taxi driver, but not terribly many
of them. I wouldn't think, yeah, but I think it's wonderful. Actually,
the whole trend of people working after a time and
age is absolutely huge. The figure I really like to

(01:08:29):
look at is that in nineteen eighty seven, thirteen percent
of people aged sixty five to sixty nine were working.
In twenty twenty four, that figure had jumped from thirteen
percent to forty eight percent, So almost the majority of
sixty five to sixty nine year olds are working in
so called retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Question is why. I mean, obviously there's health will have
improved and access to medical care, ETCeteras improved, but people
working because they have to, well, because they want to
keep contributing.

Speaker 24 (01:09:02):
I think there's the four main reasons, and the first
one is, as you say, it's the money. A lot
of people need the money. It's probably the majority. I
think I have seen a figure on that at some stage,
but not a recent one. And you know, the extra
was a little bit of money for say, you know,
fifteen or twenty hours a week or something like that
makes a really big difference to the lifestyle of retirement.

(01:09:24):
Sometimes it's the only person who can do the job.
You know. So Madge has done the books for a
company for ages. She knows how it's done, and everybody
wants around saying, god, Madge doesn't look retire, and so
she feels pressure and she carries on doing it. Sometimes
it's owning a business like you know, farmers and and

(01:09:47):
lots of other small businesses. But also and I fit
into this category because I'm seventy two and I'm still working.
It's simply what they do.

Speaker 18 (01:09:56):
You know.

Speaker 24 (01:09:56):
I get up in the morning and I like to
look at what's going on the markets overseas. I like
to look at what the geopolitic, the geopolitical stuff has
been going down it. You know, it's a lot of
other stuff that I like to do, But I like
I've always liked my work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
And the routine of it as well. People often talk
about the routine of it. One of the interesting numbers
to come out of this is over sixty fives. There
are actually a lot of machinery operators ten percent of
those working over sixty five machinery operators. I don't imagine
this is hugely labor intensive stuff, although we're not really sure,
but do you think what do you think is behind that?

(01:10:35):
Is that because perhaps they're the only ones left to
know how to operate the machine.

Speaker 24 (01:10:40):
I did runder that when I read it, and then
somebody else said that they may be managing the people
who are actually managing running the machines. So they may
not be hands on or you know, they may not
have an apron on to use the building term, but
they may be managing somebody else to do it and

(01:11:01):
help them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah. Interesting, Martin, keep up the good work at seventy two,
you're going strong. Martin Haw's financial advisor and author of
Retirement Ready. Talking about these stats from stats n Z,
Daryl says, I'm fifty eight. I will not retire at
sixty five. I feel like if I do, I will die.
A lot of people say that the day you stop
work is the day you die. You know, you you

(01:11:24):
got to keep going and it keeps you going as well.
Nine the number to text brad Olsen, no stopping him.
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They're very small, but very valuable to our fruit production
export industry. I'm talking about cherries this evening. This season,

(01:12:56):
we exported five million kilos of cherries. That's up thirty
three percent on last year. Significant brad Olsen is the
inmplemtric's principal economisties with me to night break, good evening,
good evening. So cherries, cherries everywhere where are we sending them?

Speaker 25 (01:13:11):
Well, the bulk of the cherries that we're exporting are
heading off to particular Asia. The likes of Taiwan was
the biggest market, but Asia in general was taking well
over ninety five percent of what we send out. That's
usual and sort of not too much of a shift there,
But what was interesting was where some of those other
smaller countries, but we're taking some bigger cherry exports this year.

(01:13:34):
In particular, the US are seeing quite a big increase
relatively speaking on what they normally take, but also the
Middle East normally taking just about no cherries, but this
year a bit of a bulk up in the likes
of the United Arab Emirates, and Saudi Arabia, those sort
of areas, you know, do start to show that those
trade deals that we've got going throughout the rest of

(01:13:54):
the world are starting to work. There's a bit more
profile for New Zealand exports to get out and about what's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Of money we're getting. Are we getting top dollar?

Speaker 25 (01:14:03):
Well, I would have thought so at the moment. I
mean the fact that we were able to see cherry
volumes go up thirty three percent to over five million
kilograms and prices actually stayed at the high levels that
they had been for the first time. Over the twelve
months to February twenty twenty five, our cherry exports made
US one hundred and twenty four million, first time it's
made over one hundred mili. Now that doesn't sound like much,

(01:14:25):
but these are some pretty high value products that we're
able to send overseas. They're obviously quite seasonal, but it
shows that when we can bulk up our exports by
a third in a year and the price doesn't really change,
in fact, it slightly goes up, there's some healthy demand
for New Zealand fruit overseas.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Does this I mean when you start to see prices
high like this you see volumes starting to increase, you
see new markets opening up. Does that mean we will
see more production or are we at peak cherry production here?
What is the situation?

Speaker 25 (01:14:56):
I don't necessarily think we're at peak production, but I mean,
of course it's a pretty big jump. You wouldn't be
expecting to see the same thing again next year. This year,
of course, seem to be better growing conditions a bit,
a bit later than usual, and of course there's always
those worries around frosts and hail and similar so we
can never sort of bank on it being great always
production wise. But I think given the fact that we've

(01:15:19):
got this continual focus on trying to grow exports, the
fact that at the moment the numbers are sitting in
a good position, there's clearly demand out there. Will continue
to try and supply not only the likes of cherries
and all of the other good stuff that we send
out Kiwi fruits, apples and the like, but also be
looking at where are there new opportunities to send different
types of fruit. There's clearly demand, so we should be

(01:15:41):
making sure that we're on the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Table absolutely, Brad, thank you for that. Brad Olson. Inf
Metric Principal Economist on cherries of all things, doing quite well,
Thank you very much. Eighteen minutes after six. So many
texts from people who are over the age of sixty
five and just loving work, loving life. Peter quite confident,
I actually feel of it. So for peace as friends, Peter,
go easy on them, he says. I'm seventy four next month.

(01:16:05):
I love working. I noticed that my peers who retired
some years ago are losing their intellect and are lacking
in sharp thinking and are slowly becoming far less interesting.
I love my mind being challenged, being asked to speak
at conferences, etcetera, etcetera. Peter, good for you, but just
you know, hang in there for your mates, all right,

(01:16:26):
don't ditch them dust yet. Nineteen after six Jamie McKay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Next the Rural Report with MSD Animal Health Home of
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Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
It is twenty one after six on Newstalks. Here b
Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country is with me tonight. Hi,
Jamie get a Ryan, how yeah, very well, thank you.
Now be ready to be nimble. That's the message to
the primary exporters from the International Trade Expert former Special
Trade Envoy Mike Peterson.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Yeah, Yeah, walks both farmers well. And Mike knows the
thing or two about trade, as you said, former New
Zealand Special Agricultural tradeing boy, former chair of Beef and
Lamb New Zealand, current chair of Scales, one of our
biggest horticulture companies, and he said, we're basically we're going
to have to tread warily between our two biggest markets
now the China or China and the US, and we

(01:17:21):
need to try and keep a foot in both camps. Interestingly,
in an interview I was reading from Mike, he said,
on the domestic front, while many farmers feel they have
a farmer friendly government and they certainly have ryan compared
to what those poor buggers in the UK are facing
under SECAA. Starmer, He's saying that the government has a

(01:17:43):
big picture agenda as well. But when it comes to
that big picture agenda, I meeting Paris Climate Climate accord agreements.
Not everyone in the government, it seems, agrees with that
big picture, especially the likes of Winston and even David
Seymour's the jury's how to weave it on that one.

(01:18:05):
So Mike Peterson saying farmers might like the government, but
they might like, might not like some of their actions
around climate change targets. But he's saying it's nothing that
science and innovation can't take care of. Many people would
argue maybe that's not the case. But anyhow, someone's and
upwards for the primary sector. And as I said after

(01:18:28):
speaking to my UK farm and correspondent today in the
UK Rhyme where they had another massive farmer protest, we've
got it good in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah, particularly with the government and regulation. As you mentioned,
Jamie zespri is claiming a world first. What's this about.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Yeah, this is quite a cool story. We came or
came across today or was it yesterday, the only fruit
company in the world that will shortly have all its
products sewn with home else sold should I say, with
home compostible labels? You know when you're eating your Kiwi
fruit gold and I've got those annoying plastic little labels

(01:19:06):
where they're going to be a thing of the past.
They're going to be all compostible, which will be great,
and it's going to be on all fruit grown in
New Zealand or offshore. Remember that Zestbury's making a real
play for all year round supply by having growers in
the Northern hemisphere as well. A lot of these European
nations are demanding fully compostible fruit stickers, and I think

(01:19:29):
it's a really good thing. So there's a bit of
a challenge with these. There's three parts to them, the top,
the face, top, and the actual label itself. They've all
got to be compostible. They've got about a stick to
a hairy surface, especially when it comes to green kyw fruit.
The labels need to cope and cool stores and out
on the market floor where it might be a wee

(01:19:50):
bit warmer, and more importantly, obviously they need to break
down in the compost heap. So there we go. Well done, Zesprey.
They're world leaders and a lot of and I guess
they can add compostible stickers to that list.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
This sounds good, Jamie, good on them. Thank you for that,
Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country. Here on News Talks.
There beats twenty five minutes after six and bred. Now
Rachel Reeves. Who's she who holds the purse strings over
in the UK, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. She's going
to deliver her spring statement to the House of commons.
It shouldn't be Thursday our time, and usually you would

(01:20:26):
think boring her cares. But she's going to take the
knife to the public service because she has to, because
she's got to balance the books. Rumors are she might
even acts, and this is a labor politician, remember of
a labor government. She might even acts their free school
lunch program, the universality of that. So at the moment,

(01:20:47):
it's the school lunch is are means tested for anyone
who's at secondary school, but for basically the equivalent of
the first three years of primary school. Everyone gets free
universe all lunch on the taxpayer. And there's been some
reporting that that might change, and Rachel Reeves is sort

(01:21:08):
of putting out fires left, right and center. So we'll
have to wait and see what she says in his speech.
But it's just interesting looking at the British system. So
in the UK free but only if you receive, if
your family receives certain benefits, so as opposed to a
New Zealand where we say if one student at the

(01:21:28):
school gets it, the whole school gets it because otherwise,
you know, you stigmatize that student. That was the argument
that was made. Whereas in the UK. That's not how
it works in the UK. You only qualify if your
family gets certain benefits from the government and it's targeted
at those kids, regardless of who around them is eating it.

(01:21:51):
Twenty seven after six News Talks ZB will be in
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Think it is twenty five away from seven your own
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this week. What exactly will it entail? What will it
make for the British government, their labor government and their
cuts to the public service. We'll look at that just
before seven. We're over in the UK right now, though,
a new report into women working in the tech sector

(01:23:12):
has set off a few alarm bells. The advocacy group
Tech Beyond Gender surveyed two hundred female workers tech workers.
It found more than half have considered leaving their current
positions and over a third of thought about quitting the
sector altogether. Mina Setsh Kumar from Tech Beyond Gender is

(01:23:32):
with me to explain this finding. Mina, good evening to you.
Thanks for being with.

Speaker 26 (01:23:37):
Me, Good evening, Thanks for the time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
So you've done these interviews, there's some quite some quite
radical claims being made here. Tell me how you've come
to the conclusion. You know, half of the people you've
interviewed have considered quitting. Do you know? Whine?

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:23:58):
Cool? So let me just correction here. This report we
surveyed women and gender divers professionals working in New Zealand
tech sector. I think it is gener frustration and a
feeling of hopelessness for these people working in tech sector
where more than forty persons have experienced gender based microaggressions

(01:24:22):
in their workplaces, and more than seventy seventy percentage have
reported no training or to create awareness regarding microaggressions have
been provided in their workplaces. And besides that, more than
seventy percentage of them are dissatisfied with paid transparency and
more than half of them feel that they're not being

(01:24:43):
paid fair, with disparities particularly affecting technical and migrant professionals.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
What do you consider a microaggression? Forty percent say that
they've had gender based microaggressions committed against them. What is that?

Speaker 20 (01:25:00):
So?

Speaker 26 (01:25:00):
Microaggressions are subtle, often unintentional comments or behaviors or actions
that communicate bias or stereotype towards a person or a group.
So this is particularly targeted towards marginalized or minority background.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
So I'm sorry, sorry just one. You said that it's
unintentional aggressions and yet it's targeted. How can it be both?

Speaker 26 (01:25:31):
Well, because this is because of the stereotypes that are
so ingrained in our society. There are certain systemic issues
that we have really not addressed. So it's easy to
just assume in a meeting that a woman would probably
be there to take notes or be a people manager,

(01:25:53):
and not see a woman as a front end developer
or a solution architect or a technical lead. So that's
what I meant, because it is very unintentional because we
are so ingrained in those stereotypes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Right, But what can you give us an example of
what a microaggression is?

Speaker 26 (01:26:14):
So being interrupted in meetings or having ideas appropriated, or
facing some dismissive comments, or like just having some remarks
such as, oh, you're surprisingly technical, or even saying, uh,
well you're too aggressive if being assertive as a woman's right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
But these things will happen to men too, I mean,
you know if so if if somebody, if a manager
interrupts a man, is that a microaggression?

Speaker 10 (01:26:49):
No?

Speaker 26 (01:26:50):
Possibly, I'm not saying that men do not have any
issues as such. Probably they do face issues.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
But then isn't it Isn't that the point though, that
that if you know are there are good managers and
there are bad managers. It doesn't necessarily mean just because
somebody interrupts you that they are sexist or that they're
doing it because you're you're a woman.

Speaker 26 (01:27:12):
But certain systemic barriers make all of these behaviors very
pronounced for women and gender divers professionals. So because of
the stereotypes that are so ingrained in US, we just
assume certain things and just talk about it without really

(01:27:33):
thinking about it. So, for instance, if I'm in a
meeting and if I'm actually providing a technical input this
way along with few other men in my team, that
message that I would convey will hold value if it
comes if it is backed by another man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Okay MANA, thank you very much for explaining this to us.
I really appreciate it. MENA statisticoma from the Tech Beyond Gender,
which is an advocacy group for women in tech. I mean,
what do you say. I just think the whole, the
whole I've read, I've read the release from this group.

(01:28:12):
I just think it sounds like absolute. But yes, half
have considered quitting. Go and ask any worker anywhere, and
half of them will tell you they have considered quitting
their job. It doesn't matter what gender they are, who
their bosses. Half don't believe they're being paid very well.
Go and ask any worker, doesn't matter what gender they are,
and they'll tell you that they're not being paid very well.

(01:28:35):
Go and ask how many have had microaggressions and then
define it as loosely as that, and half will have
said that they've had microaggressions. Nineteen to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Croaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge
with the business hour and mass insurance and investments. Grew
your wealth, protect your future. The news dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
That'd be six thing away from seven on news Talk ZB.
We'll get to some of your texts. On micro aggressions
and the like in just a few moments. Would you
never thought you'd say on radio? But here we are
in the Brady is our UK correspondent. He's with us
right now in the good evening to.

Speaker 20 (01:29:14):
You, hey, Ryan, lovely to speak to you again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Now. The boss of Heathrow is going to face a
parliament next week over the fire FIESCO. What are we expecting?

Speaker 20 (01:29:26):
Well, I think they're going to turn their verbal fire
on him because people are very angry about what happened
on Friday. Now. Thomas Woldby is the Chief Executive Heathrow Airport.
He's quick to point out that it is not the
airport's fault that there was a fire at an electricity
substation on Thursday night, but a lot has emerged since.

(01:29:46):
So he took the decision that his deputy would work
through the night and that he, the CEO, would go
home sleep and then wake up refreshed for the task
on Friday of making the decisions that would all get
the airport open again to the traveling public on Saturday.
A lot of people are saying, why didn't you just
work on How could you sleep? The Transport Minister here,

(01:30:09):
Hidi Alexander. She's even come out on radio and said,
I wouldn't be able to sleep if that had happened
in my job and I was dealing with the closure
of the biggest airport in Europe and the busiest I
would not be able to sleep. So I think he
can expect a few verbal bullets next week. He's under pressure,
but it has just shown up the chronic problems we

(01:30:31):
have deep in our infrastructure in the UK. That a
fire at a substation a few miles away knocks out
an airport with three hundred thousand passengers going through it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Goodness may well, we'll look forward to that little inquiry.
Kese Thamas is he wants to fix every pothole in Britain.

Speaker 20 (01:30:50):
Yes, and I think it was John Lennon who sang
that there were four thousand potholes in Blackburn, Lancashire. That
was in the sixties. Well, I think he'd be under
a state making the task at hand now, because in
all honesty, I run a lot, as you know, Ryan,
I now run cross country mostly because the danger of
twisting an ankle or worse, because of the pothole situation here.

(01:31:13):
It is so bad now. Kre Starmer has given a
radio interview. He actually said, at this moment in time,
as I'm speaking, someone will be driving over a pothole.
He used the figure seven hundred million, not dollars in
terms of fixing the problems. Seven hundred million potholes is
what the Prime Minister believes there are to be fixed

(01:31:34):
in the UK. So he was challenged on how he's
going to do this, and he used the phrase AI
and tech eight times and the presenter said, well, just
explain how that works, and he goes, look very simple.
He said, each time the Council fills in a pothole,
they'll go online, they'll update it, they'll get some more
money and it can go fill another one. So that's

(01:31:54):
where we are right now, seven hundred million potholes in
the UK, according to Kure Starmer.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Goodness man, I don't how much AI's got to do
with fixing it, but that's interesting, right putting it.

Speaker 20 (01:32:05):
Men with shovels and gravel, Ryan, that's what exactly not AI.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Yeah, Hey, very quickly, Rachel rees. She is going to
address Parliament this week, the House of Commons. Do we
know whether they're going to cut the universal school lunches?
Have you heard anything about that or is that all
just scuttle back rumor.

Speaker 20 (01:32:23):
I think everything's being cut. I think Britain is heading
back to austerity. There is no money. Not only is
she getting rid of the school lunches for really kind
of disadvantaged, vulnerable kids. Fifty thousand civil servants are going
to lose their jobs. I think Britain is heading back
into a decade of austerity. There is no money left here,
there is no growth and we are where we are finally.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Connor McGregor wants to run for president of Ireland.

Speaker 20 (01:32:51):
Yeah, watch this one, it's going to be interesting. He's
making a lot of noise online for anyone who doesn't
know who Connor McGregor is. He is an extremely wealthy
and successful cage fighter from that UFC brand in America.
He is Irish. He's Dublin through and through. He has
a really bad reputation amongst a lot of people in Ireland.

(01:33:12):
There was a civil case brought against him in court
last year for sexual assault by a woman, which he lost.
There was a previous conviction for punching an elderly man
in a pub. Yeah, he's been speaking out about immigration
and a lot of illegal immigrants coming into Ireland. He
is getting some support on the far right of the

(01:33:33):
political spectrum in Ireland. But the problem he has in
terms of becoming president you need twenty elected representatives to
come out and say they back you. He's not going
to get twenty. In fact, I would go so far
as to say if I ran against him, I from
County Wexford as a journalist, I would get twenty people
to back me and he would get zero. And I'm

(01:33:54):
not being big headed here, I'm just stating facts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Right, Thig So much for that. In the Radio UK
Correspondent for those who needed help with this, including kir Starmer,
one of our lovely listeners said, it's very simple, Ryan Ai.
When it comes to Pothole's eagles, Ash felt intelligence, So
that'll just sort the whole thing out. Eleven minutes away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
These talks b eight minutes away from seven News, Tob
Roberts says, I live rually. I'm still trying to move
on from AI being artificial insemination, which is you know
that is on a farm, what you would refer to it.
As we were just talking about AI a moment ago
with in the Brady out of the UK. We were
also discussing just before we get I'll play you some

(01:34:58):
audio very quickly, very shortly, rather from Andrew Bailey who
was talking in Parliament today. He's back from his big adventure.
But we were talking earlier about women in the tech
sector and this report that came out today saying that
you know, women are so unhappy in the tech sector
and there's a survey that shows that half are thinking
about leaving their jobs, and they were linking this to

(01:35:19):
the treatment of women in the tech sector. All that
sort of stuff and microaggressions came up. Well, we've had
quite a bit of feedback about this. Ryan, you're a dinosaur.
Your mind was made up before the micro aggression. Woman
began speaking. If you think women are treated equally in
New Zealand's workplace, you are willfully ignorant. They're different things,

(01:35:41):
aren't they Do I think women are treated equally in
the workplace. Well, look, I don't know. I don't know
because I'm not a woman. But if I look at
all the workplaces I've worked in, and I've been serious here,
probably eighty percent of my bosses have been women. Most
of my college have been women. Women are over represented

(01:36:02):
in my industry more more often than not, the person
sitting next to me is a woman, and I've never
seen them treated differently or worse than anyone else. We're
all treated equally. Shite, you know, so so personally, have
I seen it?

Speaker 16 (01:36:20):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Does that mean it doesn't exist?

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Do I think the microaggression thing is a bit of BS. Yes,
I think it's BS. I think I think if you
want to feel something, if you want to, you know,
have a problem, you will have a problem. And yeah,
I don't know. I see surveys like this and I just.

Speaker 23 (01:36:40):
Yeah, I mean, look at the egalitarian set up on
our show, Ryan, Right, there's two of us here who
are men and one who's a woman. You've got a
mic in front of you. You can talk into that.
I've got one in front of me. I can talk
into that. And Laura's got one that she Oh, oh no,
Laura doesn't have a Mic.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
It's the thing though, here's the thing about Laura. I've
tried to talk to Laura on here and she refuses
typical female fashion and then she'll go. Then she'll go
fill in a form, she'll do a survey and it'll
be my fault. Hey, Andrew Bailey, Andrew Bailey speaking, I mean, look,

(01:37:18):
the world isn't fair because Andrew Bailey has got a
job nationally and p. Andrew Bailey was back in Parliament today.
He's just back from Mount Everest, where he fled after
resigning from his portfolios, but he wasn't keen to talk
about the trip. How was your trip to Mount Everett?
Well it was a good trip.

Speaker 18 (01:37:34):
Yeah, quite difficult, but so.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Did you when you went to base camp?

Speaker 9 (01:37:38):
How how did you go?

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
I went to base camp?

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Did you feel it was a weave and appropriate to
take a long break after you know what had happened.

Speaker 19 (01:37:46):
I made a decision to resign.

Speaker 10 (01:37:50):
That wasn't an easy decision but took its emotional total
and I wanted some time out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
He was then pressed on whether he still wants to
be in Parliament at all.

Speaker 12 (01:37:58):
Well, I think all the mp for poorbot ketto represented
the people there for eleven years.

Speaker 20 (01:38:04):
Are you committing to your run again?

Speaker 25 (01:38:05):
That's set I locked cash, I've just come back. I'm
glad to be here right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Bailey resigned last month after complaints had been overbearing and
put his hand on the arm of a staffer, a
male staff shoul Dad, but he says there was no
malice in that.

Speaker 10 (01:38:23):
I don't want to get into the details of all
that other than the fact is that that's what occurred.

Speaker 20 (01:38:28):
Was there in terms of when you put it in
put your.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Hand on their upper arm, was it like a grab
or did you take them or what was the nature
of that? It was just putting my hand on it
on his upper arm.

Speaker 12 (01:38:39):
I didn't It wasn't done with any malice, Thomas.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
It is what it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Is well, and it was what it was. I think
that's probably the end of Andrew Bailey, not in terms
of career, but just in terms of that story. You
know it's over, isn't it. He's been to Everest and back,
He's done his penance. It's four minutes away from seven.
You're on news Talks, Laura. You want to say anything
before we go? No, of course, not typical. Thanks as

(01:39:06):
what are we going out? To tonight swhere.

Speaker 23 (01:39:07):
I picked this before we started talking about gen direquity,
but we're going to quickly talk about a female pioneer
of rock and roll. Sister Rosetta Tharp was an inspiration
to people like Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard and
they are Amazon, sorry, Amazon MGM, are going to make
a movie about her, starring Lizzo. Lizzo is going to
be picking up an electric guitar and playing sister Rosetta Tharp.

(01:39:28):
So we're gonna go out with good as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
By Lizzo, brilliant. Have a great evening everybody, especially to
our women listening. Nothing aggressive about this tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
And check maby, how.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
Mabby?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
How are you fellow?

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
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