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November 16, 2025 2 mins

The All Blacks are doing their best to overcome major disappointment and spark up for their final test of the year.

The team arrived in Cardiff from London via bus for the 13th and final match - with a number of changes expected in the side to face the Welsh.

Cam Roigard and Beauden Barrett are unlikely to play, although would have expected bench roles at most.

Sportstalk host Jason Pine explained further - and unpacked whether Razor should be worried. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jason pines with us. Hey Jason, Hey, Ryan, So what
do you reckon Raiser. We're two year point now of
his coaching tenure.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, as of the text you're getting, the ones I
got on Weekend Sport were very measured yesterday. Yes, you
can probably imagine in reaction to what happened at Twickenham.
You're right, two years and they're not gonna let him go.
They're not gonna sack them unless they were to lose
to Wales. I think we might have a different conversation
if they lost to Wales. But I think we all
need to accept that that Scott Robertson has taken the

(00:29):
your Blackston and to the next World Cup. But I
think what we all need to see and what should
be asked of Robertson is what is the plan to
get us there in good shape? Because I just don't
feel as though there's been enough improvement or any improvement
really from the team that he took charge of at
the start of twenty twenty four, and it's hard to
feel confident about the next Rugby World Cup off the

(00:50):
backdrop of not just yesterday, but losses to Argentina, to
South Africa and other sort of inconsistent performances even when
the All Blacks have one test. So look, the rugby public,
I think is right to want to know what the
plan is, and yeah, he's got a couple of years
to sort out exactly what that is, and I guess
sell it to.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Us well and hopefully it'll turn itself around. Now, Silver
Ferns England, so the one now in the series? Can
they finish it off with a wind?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Do we think you think so, wouldn't you? Yeah? The
crazier this is the schoorelines were identical in the first
two tests, sixty one to fifty eight to New Zealand
in the first one, sixty one fifty eight to England
in the second. So it demonstrates how close these two are.
The rankings for what they're worth. New Zealand a second
in the world, England are fourth, but we're playing in England,
so I guess the home advantage brings it back a

(01:38):
little bit. It feels to me as though this is
the end of a very long and exhausting off court
year for the Silver Ferns. It would be nice, wouldn't
it to think that they could finish it on the
court with a victory. So what's that Thursday morning up
in Manchester. Let's hope they can finish on a high
and go into Commonwealth Games year with a blow momentum.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
It's funny because we've got the All Blacks and they
have one bad test and everyone's like, ah, sack the
coach and then the and netball. The coach situation obviously
quite fluid, and yet they've been doing quite well all
things considered.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Odd, isn't it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It does the coach really matter? Hey, appreciate your time.
Jason Pine from News talksb Sport.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
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