Auckland won't be scrapping its green food scrap bins any time soon.
Whanganui District Council is dropping its kerbside service to save a 1.5 percent rate increase.
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown believes Auckland could do the same.
It costs much more to offset carbon with food waste bins - than the carbon credits system.
Auckland Council Waste Solutions general manager Justine Haves says the service reduces landfill waste.
"We regularly hear from communities that they don't want more landfills, so in order to achieve that, we need to achieve waste minimisation."
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text
fees apply. Now, remember how I told you yesterday about
those little green bins in Auckland and how expensive they are. Well,
it came up this morning when Simeon Brown was talking
to Mike Hoskang the.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It of the green bin which is saving rackpads two
or three percent on their own rates. Auckland Council could
do the same, Wayne Brown could do the same. You
could remove the requirement for that green bin and save
Auckland as two percent on their rates.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now, what I told you yesterday is that it's been
estimated that for every ton of carbon that these little
green bins save in Auckland, it's costing Auckland is one thousand,
four hundred and forty dollars. Now you could just buy
a ton of carbon from the carbon auction for fifty dollars.
Justine has is the general manager of Waste Solutions at
Auckland Council.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hey, Justin, Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, thanks for joining us. Is that true? Is it
costing more than fourteen hundred dollars per ton per carbon
ton saved?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That is the current cost from a carbon perspectives, But really, really,
important to note that there's significant other benefits in terms
of waste minimization for the services.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
What are the other benefits?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So reducing waste to landfill is absolutely critical in terms
of our waste minimization obligation.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Why does that ma sujusting because this is all but
this is all stuff that will just break down in
the landfill. Food.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, there's a significant cost to landfills, environmental, economic, the
cost of communities. So we regularly hear from communities that
they don't want more landfills. So in order to achieve that,
we need to achieve waste minimization.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, what are the other benefits?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So the other benefits are repurposing and organic waste so
we can use the waste material from food scraps to
create things like energy fertilizers. So it's beneficial in terms
of a circular economy rather than just having to deal
with the byproduct.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, now, okay, so per carbon ton saved, you're paying
fourteen hundred bucks, but you could literally just by a
unit of the carbon auction for fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, So that's why it's mist leading to just focus
on the carbon impact. As I say, there's multiple other
benefits for the service. It's also really important to note
that we are looking to grow participation in the service,
so that current cost per ton is based on our
current participation. But we are very interested in supporting Aucklanders
(02:27):
to participate in the service. Cost so per ton can reduce.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, I see, so the more of us doing it,
the more it will reduce if the numbers. But here's
the problem with it, right, You're not going to be
able to bring the price down very much because if
twice as many of us do it as are doing
it now, we will only half that cost. It will
still cost us seven hundred and twenty dollars per carbon ton,
won't it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's true. But again there's multiple benefits to the service,
and it's part of our integrated service.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And Justine, if every single Aucklander did it, it's still
going to us about five hundred bucks per carbon ton,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So yes, there's still a cost to the service. This
doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like a good idea, like for a value for money,
which I feel like that's important to rate payers right now.
Value for money. This is a crap deal, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So there's a reason why it's a region wide service
and again we are trying to support Aucklanders to participate
so that we can achieve the overall benefits of the service. Okay,
so carbon reduction is one of those benefits.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How much is this costing me?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Me?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like as in one household, how much does it cost?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
The cost is just over seventy dollars and as part
of your targeted rates, so it's approximately two dollars a week.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay. Now the government, I know the Labor government made
this mandatory, but this government has said it's not mandatory anymore.
Why don't you opt out of it to save money
for us?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So the decision to proceive with for food script service
was made over a long period of time. Was first
adopted in our twenty twelve waste management minimization plan. So
there's been a lot of public consultation on this topic
to get to the decision to introduce the service. The
service would require a decision to exit the service from
(04:17):
our governing body, and as part of that advice, we
would need to help them understand what the cost of
removing the service would be.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I mean, when you say cost, you're obviously not
talking about money, are you?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I know the implications of withdrawing the service, Justine, of
which there would be multiple Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Justine, thank you. I really appreciate your time. Justine Haes,
the general manager of Waste Solutions at Aukland Council.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
For more from Heather Duplissy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text
fees apply. Now, remember how I told you yesterday about
those little green bins in Auckland and how expensive they are. Well,
it came up this morning when Simeon Brown was talking
to Mike Hoskang the.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It of the green bin which is saving rackpads two
or three percent on their own rates. Auckland Council could
do the same, Wayne Brown could do the same. You
could remove the requirement for that green bin and save
Auckland as two percent on their rates.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now, what I told you yesterday is that it's been
estimated that for every ton of carbon that these little
green bins save in Auckland, it's costing Auckland is one thousand,
four hundred and forty dollars. Now you could just buy
a ton of carbon from the carbon auction for fifty dollars.
Justine has is the general manager of Waste Solutions at
Auckland Council.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hey, Justin, Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, thanks for joining us. Is that true? Is it
costing more than fourteen hundred dollars per ton per carbon
ton saved?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That is the current cost from a carbon perspectives, But really, really,
important to note that there's significant other benefits in terms
of waste minimization for the services.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
What are the other benefits?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So reducing waste to landfill is absolutely critical in terms
of our waste minimization obligation.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Why does that ma sujusting because this is all but
this is all stuff that will just break down in
the landfill. Food.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, there's a significant cost to landfills, environmental, economic, the
cost of communities. So we regularly hear from communities that
they don't want more landfills. So in order to achieve that,
we need to achieve waste minimization.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, what are the other benefits?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So the other benefits are repurposing and organic waste so
we can use the waste material from food scraps to
create things like energy fertilizers. So it's beneficial in terms
of a circular economy rather than just having to deal
with the byproduct.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, now, okay, so per carbon ton saved, you're paying
fourteen hundred bucks, but you could literally just by a
unit of the carbon auction for fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, So that's why it's mist leading to just focus
on the carbon impact. As I say, there's multiple other
benefits for the service. It's also really important to note
that we are looking to grow participation in the service,
so that current cost per ton is based on our
current participation. But we are very interested in supporting Aucklanders
(02:27):
to participate in the service. Cost so per ton can reduce.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, I see, so the more of us doing it,
the more it will reduce if the numbers. But here's
the problem with it, right, You're not going to be
able to bring the price down very much because if
twice as many of us do it as are doing
it now, we will only half that cost. It will
still cost us seven hundred and twenty dollars per carbon ton,
won't it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's true. But again there's multiple benefits to the service,
and it's part of our integrated service.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And Justine, if every single Aucklander did it, it's still
going to us about five hundred bucks per carbon ton,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So yes, there's still a cost to the service. This
doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like a good idea, like for a value for money,
which I feel like that's important to rate payers right now.
Value for money. This is a crap deal, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So there's a reason why it's a region wide service
and again we are trying to support Aucklanders to participate
so that we can achieve the overall benefits of the service. Okay,
so carbon reduction is one of those benefits.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How much is this costing me?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Me?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like as in one household, how much does it cost?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
The cost is just over seventy dollars and as part
of your targeted rates, so it's approximately two dollars a week.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay. Now the government, I know the Labor government made
this mandatory, but this government has said it's not mandatory anymore.
Why don't you opt out of it to save money
for us?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So the decision to proceive with for food script service
was made over a long period of time. Was first
adopted in our twenty twelve waste management minimization plan. So
there's been a lot of public consultation on this topic
to get to the decision to introduce the service. The
service would require a decision to exit the service from
(04:17):
our governing body, and as part of that advice, we
would need to help them understand what the cost of
removing the service would be.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I mean, when you say cost, you're obviously not
talking about money, are you?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I know the implications of withdrawing the service, Justine, of
which there would be multiple Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Justine, thank you. I really appreciate your time. Justine Haes,
the general manager of Waste Solutions at Aukland Council.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
For more from Heather Duplissy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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