Sharren Haskel: Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister defends Benjamin Netanyahu's actions over Gaza

Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister's steadfast in condemning Prime Minister Luxon for saying her leader, Benjamin Netanyahu, has lost the plot over Gaza. 

Chris Luxon made the comment yesterday and says he's voicing a global sentiment.

Sharren Haskel posted saying New Zealand's worst enemies are cats and possums, so it can't understand the threat from Hamas.

Today, she says she stands with Netanyahu on Gaza - and it's the UN that's failed. 

"And no matter how much we've been trying to work together, the Secretary General of the UN will turn it into a political issue."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A member of the Israeli government, has hit back at
Chris lux and the Prime Minister after his comments on
the war in Gaza yesterday. I think lettin Yahoo has
gone way too far. I think he has lost the plot.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Israel's Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sharon Haskell, fired back,
claiming New Zealand's biggest threat to life with possums and
cats and she's with us right now, hash Sharon.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I had a good morning, good morning to you.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now, Sharon, You've got a point there. But Chris Luckson
also has a point, doesn't he. I mean, you guys
have lost the plot with what's going on in Gaza.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Wellk First of all, I stand by Prime Minister Inannaw
and his actions. Every single thing that he did in
the last two years. The sole purpose of it was
to defend our people, our country and our children. The
reality here is very tough, and the Middle East is
a very very tough neighborhood as well, with many changes,

(00:55):
and we're facing death called tourist organization she hardest who
not just committed the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust,
but they continue to reiterate and say over and over
again that whenever they'll have the chance, they'll create, and
they'll do the massacre, the raping, the burning alive, over

(01:16):
and over again. I think it's just natural that any
country will try and defend the country. We cannot live
beside a Nazi defficult and so look, it's been very
difficult to combat them, and obviously the situation is far
more complex because they hold hostages, and that makes it

(01:38):
far more difficult for us.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, I mean, but this is where the plot has
been lost. Your defense of Israel and your attempts to
get the hostages back have now resulted in children starving
to death. That is unacceptable.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, you know, I dispute the fact that you put
the responsibility for the humanitarian crist on Istram.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You are respon.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
No, Well, the first.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
One that is responsible for the humanitarian crisis is a
terrorist organization from US since the beginning, was given free access,
was looting them, was taxing them, was benefiting from it.
We've been trying to work with the international community for
almost two years now begging them to stop using genra

(02:28):
As has been using this organization as their own in
the facilities, the logistics, and so hold on the first
responsibility is not to take this as a political case,
but as a professional humanitarian case.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And if the United Nation would have said.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
The proper agencies here to the gazen strip that are capable,
that haves the logistics, the expertise to deal in crisis,
in a humanitarian crisis like the World Food Organization.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Newly SEF and World Health Organization, instead.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Of just handing it out from us, this would have
looked very much differently. We have been trying to work
and their mission has been failing since day one, and
no matter how much we've been trying to work together,
Secretary General of UN Goo Terrish, have turned it into
a political issue.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I understand your frustration. I understand your frustration with the UN,
but is an argument about aid which aida organization is
handing out aid really worth having when there are children
who are dying as a result of a lack of aid.
Surely the solution here is simply just let me finish.
Because surely the solution here is just to through whichever

(03:46):
aid organization just flood the area with aid. That way
Hamas loses control of it and the kids get fed.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, that's the problem that I think you don't really
understand because they were handing out to be distributed by
a terrorist or organization that threw the control over the
food and the shelter. In the medicine, we're controlling the population.
When we tried to build a second channel, the Americans
were putting a new aid organization to funnel more aid

(04:16):
because that system was failing. What did Hamas do?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
They created chaos.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
They declared that anyone that would go and collect free
food directly to Savinia will be called a traitor, and
in Gaza, traitors are executed. They put a bounty on
the head of the humanitarian workers to create chaos in
those distributions.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Do you understand that? Do you understand the international argument
here that if you flood the area with aid, harmasa's
control over aid and therefore over the population is loosened
and the kids get fed and Harmussas no longer relevant
because there's just so much aid.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
If only if many organizations are the one who are
going to distribute it. If you look on the last
cease fire when Gazza was fielded with humanitarian aid, you
saw that Tramas was pocketing millions of dollars. It was
the first time since the seventh of October that Tramas
was able to pay one hundred percent of all the

(05:15):
salaries of all the terrorists and was the first time
it was able to recruit new terrorists to fight and
kill israbbies and so that had become tuicidal. You need
to understand that the situation is much more complex than
the blood eye balls and the propaganda that TRAUMS is spreading,
where most of the media is taking almost all the

(05:37):
information straight from the mouth piece.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Of Ramas and is buying into this story. Again, I
don't understand this situation is fun.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I understand you're saying, Sharon, listen, are you guys in
the government aware of just how upset the international community
is about what they are seeing and how out of
step you guys are with the rest of us now?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I think that many in the international community are very
much concentrating on the process.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Another result, I think when.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
A trump of ded children.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well on a contrary because if that was the aim
of some of the leadership, then they weren't destroy the
delicate negotiation that were going on for almost a month
during the times where we were making so many concessions
towards commasive demands. When we were negotiating and Israel agreed

(06:35):
three times for a ceasefire and commases refused. And while
we were negotiating, some of these leadership like Macron and others,
many claims who who tough in commacids position during the
negotiations and completely obliterating any kind of chance for a

(06:57):
c spare.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
So, if you're concentrating their children and if you want
a ceasefire, then you do what you know Trump did
in the beginning, put enough pressure on commands so that
they will be forced to.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Agree to a cease fire that will release the hostages
that are being starved to death, being abused, being tortured,
and on the under hand, elevate and give a cease
fire for the Palestinian, give an opportunity to bring in eight.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
That's what the responsible thing to do is when I see.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm sorry we've got I really appreciate your points and
I don't mean to cut you off, but we are
really short on time. Sharon, thank you so much for
taking the time to talk to us. Mate that Sharon
has school is rarely Deputy Minister of Foreign Afairs. For
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