July 29, 2024 • 8 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Child Fund CEO Josie Pagani and Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The Greens have raised a few eyebrows over their decision to give Darleen Tana 21 days to resign from Parliament before they vote to invoke the waka-jumping legislation. Do they need to take quicker action?
A man in brightly coloured budgie smugglers became an unlikely hero at the Olympics after he dove in to retrieve an American swimmer’s cap. What do we make of this?
The Government's hotly-anticipated tax cuts are set to kick in this Wednesday - how excited are we? How necessary are these?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Today on the Huddle, Josie Pigani, CEO at child vand
and Trish Sarson who is Sheerson willis pr Hello people, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And all female huddle Andrew so apologize for.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Man except for me? I oh, you want me to
apologize for being a man. I'm going to talk about
budget spokelers later, but that look, we have to start
with the big story of the day, which continues to
be the big story of the day and I don't
know why, and it's driving everybody completely potty and bananas.
And this is the continuing saga of Darlene Tanner and
the absence of like a jumping by the Greens, and
of course the PACIFICA leadership, who I don't know. Let
(00:42):
this start with you, Josie, did the PACIFICA leadership actually
did more damage to the Greens than Darlene Tanner?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Possibly?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I mean, I think what this shows you is that
the Greens have taken so long on this, I mean
five months initially to do the report. We're all over it.
But it's not just Darlene Tano who's doing work it's
the Greens, the whole party. You know, I was just
completely dominating their entire year, and so there's been no
benefits to the delay for all these reasons about you know,
(01:11):
due process and so on, and and so I think
they've sort of they've they've made this problem worse for themselves.
Now you've got the PACIFICA Group coming out, you're right,
And I think what this shows is that, you know,
you've got the PACIFICA Group saying they feel unsafe because
of the you know, the white members of the Green
Party and so on, and because the Greens have this
(01:31):
kind of democracy of views, all views are treated equally,
they've got no language to push back on the identity
politics when it comes to something like you know, there's
a right and a wrong, and so they kind of
get they get paralyzed, and they're just stuck in this
sort of you know, there are no good ideas or
bad ideas.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Or they're stuck in most they're stuck in no person's land.
Efficient Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Just be one other thing very quickly add And you
know Fesso Colin, who was a colleague of mine through
the Labor Party days, and I do remember him saying,
you know, I need we're going to teach, We're going
to show the Greens that the cool kids are not
in the CBD, They're not in Central England, They're out
in South Side, They're out in South Ekland. So there
is a problem there, I think in the Green Party.
(02:18):
And it's a bit more substantive.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You were with her visa on the day and you
work with him, and there they are going, well, here's
the thing, Tricia. Almost everybody who's rational to say, well,
tell those guys to shut up and just get rid
of the woman.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Well, I think you know, one thing this is showing
is what the Green Party have lost in not having
James Shaw as their co leader. It also demonstrates their
inability to take action at speed. So when it comes
to climate action, I would say good luck everybody. You know,
(02:53):
they secretly stripped Darling Tana of her portfolios in early February.
They are not now going to vote on whether to
start the process to kick her out of the party
until one September. As Josie said, that is seven months
just to reach an inconclusive consensus, a conclusive consensus on
decisions over one MP. But what it has provided us
(03:17):
with is a whole new word salad on the political menu,
just to give you a flavor. We've got my pronouns,
are they them? So I'm never alone. We've had a
lot of holding space, we had a lot of lived experience.
We've over the weekend, we've had inflamed and weaponized and
also added to that, we've had power based on the
(03:38):
assumed rightness of whiteness. So to Josie's point, it is
no wonder that they are bogged down in identity politics
because they just aren't able to talk straight.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No kidding, processive. Thank you so beautify, said so Josie McGarty.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Exceptional market
for every Property, with.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Tris Sesson and jose Pegany. Now we'll get to the Olympics.
And here's a story you may or may not know about.
There was a considerable excitement in the newsroom over a
knight and shining budgie smugglers at the Olympic pool over
the course of this morning. Turns out a female swimmer
lost her cap in the pool in an official volunteered
to retrieve it. So he strode proudly in front of
the crowds magnificently, I would even posit to say, and
(04:24):
the TV cameras, of course were there. He was resplendent
and the most magnificent pair of florally patterned budgy smugglers,
not high cut, can I add? There were trunk style right.
He then executed a perfect dive into the pool, straight
to the pool's floor, retrieved the cap, exited the pool
with the plumb to great applause. Obviously a swimmer, though
the paunch suggests that he was well retired. So the
(04:45):
talk is now obviously about the togs, particularly amongst younger
stuff in the newsroom, particularly about women who say, ooh
what was that about? They were tittering and ghoring. So
my question is Trish budgie smugglers your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, it certainly was a confident pant and you've described
it beautifully Andrew over the radio. But in terms of
what Euros normally strut around in Don's laplage at the beach,
these were less budgy smugglers in my view, and more
of what I would term a modesty pant. But the
question for me is who wears these just on the
(05:24):
off chance they'll need to strip down to receive retrieve
a swim cap.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Retired officials who used to be professional swimmers. I guess,
Josephe your thoughts on the budgie smuggler.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, I lived in Paris for three years and my
husband used to go to the pool take the kids
of the pool, and my husband got basically got chucked
out of the pool for not wearing budgie smugglers because
it's actually almost illegal in France not to wear budget smugglers.
Because they think that we think the board shorts are
better and clean it. They think that that I guess
you're meating two potatoes is going to be flapping around
(05:54):
in their board shorts, so they say you actually cannot
go to the pool. I don't know what to still saying.
This is in twenty seven, that you could not go
to the pool unless you're in budget smugglers, and you know,
my husband would agree with me that was not a
necessarily pretty sight.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
All right, there's enough of that. Tax cuts are coming
this week and I've got the finance minister after six o'clock.
How excited are you for your tax cut? Trish? What
do you think about them? You will you even notice them.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Trish, Well, I'm not really thinking of them from a
personal perspective, and I don't think any many people probably are.
But I think more importantly from a political perspective. For
the government, this is all part of them being able
to demonstrate to New Zealanders that they are doing something
(06:42):
about the cost of living, and this is the government's
way of being able to have people feel that directly
in their wallets. But don't forget the big burst of
under the saddle and under the government and everyone else's
saddles is still actually interest rates and those increases for families,
and the demand that's putting on household budgets is absolutely enormous.
(07:04):
So yes that the Finance Minister will be very pleased
that these are now coming into effect and putting a
few dollars back, but she will also be looking across
the road at the Reserve Bank governor, hoping that sooner
rather than later. I'm sure he also does his bit
with interest rates.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, this was the budge smuggler of tax cuts. Really.
I mean, it's basically the equivalent of a packet of
Huggies for most families. But that's something that's something that
people think it's nothing, will feel free to donate it
to charities like ChildFund. But I still think, Andrew, you
look at this, I think there's what fourteen billion dollars
in tax cuts over four years. I think at the
(07:43):
same time DAT is going to go up by thirty
two billion dollars. That's government debt. So, in other words,
this tax cut is still being paid by debt. And
if it's being paid by debt, all you're doing is
making sure that people are going to have to pay
more tax in the future, and that will probably be
me and you, let alone everybody else who's younger than us.
So it's not really a tax cut, and it's not
doing anything about productivity and growing the economy. You know,
(08:06):
it's a bit of a damp squid. It's a budge smuggler.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Thank you so much, Josie, and thank you so much, Trish.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Today on the Huddle, Josie Pigani, CEO at child vand
and Trish Sarson who is Sheerson willis pr Hello people, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And all female huddle Andrew so apologize for.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Man except for me? I oh, you want me to
apologize for being a man. I'm going to talk about
budget spokelers later, but that look, we have to start
with the big story of the day, which continues to
be the big story of the day and I don't
know why, and it's driving everybody completely potty and bananas.
And this is the continuing saga of Darlene Tanner and
the absence of like a jumping by the Greens, and
of course the PACIFICA leadership, who I don't know. Let
(00:42):
this start with you, Josie, did the PACIFICA leadership actually
did more damage to the Greens than Darlene Tanner?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Possibly?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I mean, I think what this shows you is that
the Greens have taken so long on this, I mean
five months initially to do the report. We're all over it.
But it's not just Darlene Tano who's doing work it's
the Greens, the whole party. You know, I was just
completely dominating their entire year, and so there's been no
benefits to the delay for all these reasons about you know,
(01:11):
due process and so on, and and so I think
they've sort of they've they've made this problem worse for themselves.
Now you've got the PACIFICA Group coming out, you're right,
And I think what this shows is that, you know,
you've got the PACIFICA Group saying they feel unsafe because
of the you know, the white members of the Green
Party and so on, and because the Greens have this
(01:31):
kind of democracy of views, all views are treated equally,
they've got no language to push back on the identity
politics when it comes to something like you know, there's
a right and a wrong, and so they kind of
get they get paralyzed, and they're just stuck in this
sort of you know, there are no good ideas or
bad ideas.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Or they're stuck in most they're stuck in no person's land.
Efficient Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Just be one other thing very quickly add And you
know Fesso Colin, who was a colleague of mine through
the Labor Party days, and I do remember him saying,
you know, I need we're going to teach, We're going
to show the Greens that the cool kids are not
in the CBD, They're not in Central England, They're out
in South Side, They're out in South Ekland. So there
is a problem there, I think in the Green Party.
(02:18):
And it's a bit more substantive.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You were with her visa on the day and you
work with him, and there they are going, well, here's
the thing, Tricia. Almost everybody who's rational to say, well,
tell those guys to shut up and just get rid
of the woman.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Well, I think you know, one thing this is showing
is what the Green Party have lost in not having
James Shaw as their co leader. It also demonstrates their
inability to take action at speed. So when it comes
to climate action, I would say good luck everybody. You know,
(02:53):
they secretly stripped Darling Tana of her portfolios in early February.
They are not now going to vote on whether to
start the process to kick her out of the party
until one September. As Josie said, that is seven months
just to reach an inconclusive consensus, a conclusive consensus on
decisions over one MP. But what it has provided us
(03:17):
with is a whole new word salad on the political menu,
just to give you a flavor. We've got my pronouns,
are they them? So I'm never alone. We've had a
lot of holding space, we had a lot of lived experience.
We've over the weekend, we've had inflamed and weaponized and
also added to that, we've had power based on the
(03:38):
assumed rightness of whiteness. So to Josie's point, it is
no wonder that they are bogged down in identity politics
because they just aren't able to talk straight.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No kidding, processive. Thank you so beautify, said so Josie McGarty.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Exceptional market
for every Property, with.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Tris Sesson and jose Pegany. Now we'll get to the Olympics.
And here's a story you may or may not know about.
There was a considerable excitement in the newsroom over a
knight and shining budgie smugglers at the Olympic pool over
the course of this morning. Turns out a female swimmer
lost her cap in the pool in an official volunteered
to retrieve it. So he strode proudly in front of
the crowds magnificently, I would even posit to say, and
(04:24):
the TV cameras, of course were there. He was resplendent
and the most magnificent pair of florally patterned budgy smugglers,
not high cut, can I add? There were trunk style right.
He then executed a perfect dive into the pool, straight
to the pool's floor, retrieved the cap, exited the pool
with the plumb to great applause. Obviously a swimmer, though
the paunch suggests that he was well retired. So the
(04:45):
talk is now obviously about the togs, particularly amongst younger
stuff in the newsroom, particularly about women who say, ooh
what was that about? They were tittering and ghoring. So
my question is Trish budgie smugglers your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, it certainly was a confident pant and you've described
it beautifully Andrew over the radio. But in terms of
what Euros normally strut around in Don's laplage at the beach,
these were less budgy smugglers in my view, and more
of what I would term a modesty pant. But the
question for me is who wears these just on the
(05:24):
off chance they'll need to strip down to receive retrieve
a swim cap.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Retired officials who used to be professional swimmers. I guess,
Josephe your thoughts on the budgie smuggler.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, I lived in Paris for three years and my
husband used to go to the pool take the kids
of the pool, and my husband got basically got chucked
out of the pool for not wearing budgie smugglers because
it's actually almost illegal in France not to wear budget smugglers.
Because they think that we think the board shorts are
better and clean it. They think that that I guess
you're meating two potatoes is going to be flapping around
(05:54):
in their board shorts, so they say you actually cannot
go to the pool. I don't know what to still saying.
This is in twenty seven, that you could not go
to the pool unless you're in budget smugglers, and you know,
my husband would agree with me that was not a
necessarily pretty sight.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
All right, there's enough of that. Tax cuts are coming
this week and I've got the finance minister after six o'clock.
How excited are you for your tax cut? Trish? What
do you think about them? You will you even notice them.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Trish, Well, I'm not really thinking of them from a
personal perspective, and I don't think any many people probably are.
But I think more importantly from a political perspective. For
the government, this is all part of them being able
to demonstrate to New Zealanders that they are doing something
(06:42):
about the cost of living, and this is the government's
way of being able to have people feel that directly
in their wallets. But don't forget the big burst of
under the saddle and under the government and everyone else's
saddles is still actually interest rates and those increases for families,
and the demand that's putting on household budgets is absolutely enormous.
(07:04):
So yes that the Finance Minister will be very pleased
that these are now coming into effect and putting a
few dollars back, but she will also be looking across
the road at the Reserve Bank governor, hoping that sooner
rather than later. I'm sure he also does his bit
with interest rates.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, this was the budge smuggler of tax cuts. Really.
I mean, it's basically the equivalent of a packet of
Huggies for most families. But that's something that's something that
people think it's nothing, will feel free to donate it
to charities like ChildFund. But I still think, Andrew, you
look at this, I think there's what fourteen billion dollars
in tax cuts over four years. I think at the
(07:43):
same time DAT is going to go up by thirty
two billion dollars. That's government debt. So, in other words,
this tax cut is still being paid by debt. And
if it's being paid by debt, all you're doing is
making sure that people are going to have to pay
more tax in the future, and that will probably be
me and you, let alone everybody else who's younger than us.
So it's not really a tax cut, and it's not
doing anything about productivity and growing the economy. You know,
(08:06):
it's a bit of a damp squid. It's a budge smuggler.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Thank you so much, Josie, and thank you so much, Trish.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
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