The Huddle: Should people be allowed to stand up at concerts?

Tonight on The Huddle, Phil O'Reilly from Iron Duke Partners and Jack Tame from ZB's Saturday Mornings and Q&A joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more! 

NZ First is looking to repeal the Regulatory Standards Act ahead of the election. ACT's David Seymour isn't thrilled - what do we make of this? What's Winston's plan here?

The Government has officially recognised feral cats as pests and added them to the Predator Free 2050 list. Do we think this is a good idea? What are the risks here? 

New research shows the ban on phones in schools is working - but the ERO recommends the Government can go further. Do we need social media restrictions next?

Heather was at last night's Metallica concert and she saw a fan in the stands rocking out - before he was encouraged to sit down. Heather says fans should be able to stand and move at concerts if you want - do we agree?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
He didn't want to say it again, so this is
what he said earlier.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, it's pretty worrying because that's Labour's position.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
It sounds like he's getting ready to go with Labor again.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, on the huddle with us this evening Pillow Riley Iron,
Duke Partner's Jack Tame, host to Q and A and
Saturday Mornings Hire you too, here.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
You are, we're calling this Metallica voice?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Is that what we're calling?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm not even that cool. This is Lenny Kravitz's voice
still from Saturday night. I couldn't even sing a Metallica.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Made two like global superstars in the spaces and I.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Have a ten month old. I mean, like, what is life?
But you know, I was just no singing a Metallica
last night. But there's nothing to sing along with because
it's just but weird, isn't it? Phil?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Did you get a bruce from the head binging?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, I listened. The bosses are listening. I had to.
I was behaving myself. I had one beer, I had
a burger. I sat in silence. I didn't move. I
tried to preserve my right. So there we go. Now
we will talk about Metallica those I've got to talk
to you guys about it in a minute, but quickly, Phil,
I want to know what's going on here. Do you
believe the theory that Winston's prepared to go with Labor again?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
No, what Winston's trying to do is maximize his votes here.
So they're already in full election vote. Shane Jones is
running around the country talking at what he sells that
I've got pays the displasement fully sold out to original meetings.
They are absolutely setting out their stare. They're early out
of the blocks on the selection stuff. And so really
what Winston's doing is increasing the potential for his votes here, hoping.
I guess that there might be a Luxe and lead

(01:33):
government with just him and Luxon in it him and
then that's in it with ACT on the side. Maybe
that's his dream. I'm a bit with Barry Saber. I
think necessarily go as far as Berry, but I think
it's pretty unlikely he'll go with Labor, because you know,
he's planted himself into a bit of a corner here
and he really doesn't like what they did to him
over had Poor Poor and all the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, what do you reckon, Jack Well?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I would never say never for anything when it comes
to win, never rule them out of anything. But I
do think if you consider his comments today and you
put them alongside those comments from last week that he
made about National you know, I think it's perfectly reasonable
to look at New Zealand First right now and think
that they're trying to give themselves maximum agency when it

(02:16):
comes to coalition negotiations at the end of next year.
You know, you think about the last coalition negotiations. Everyone
seems to think that New Zealand First and acted very
well out of it, and that maybe Nationals.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Didn't do so well.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
If they go into the negotiations and everyone automatically assumes
that it's going to be a repeat of the three
parties in government, well it doesn't really give New Zealand
First many chips. But if there's a sintilla a possibility
that they might go with Labor, if they just entertain
the idea in public, then maybe it means they'll get
a few more of their policies through.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah. Maybe so at fairpoint, Okay, now the feral cats
thing has just happened, Phil, how do you feel about it?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, I'm concerned about I'm concerned about Fluffy. Fluffy will
be some cats who's got out of Missus Miggans's house
and tim in some sort of in some modern day
Tarzan or elephant hunter shoots the poor little bigger or
poisons or something. That's going to be the challenge I
think them. And you've got to argue. I don't think
you can argue that feral cats out in the wild

(03:14):
are a good idea, and I kind of support the
idea that you did do something about them, but not Fluffy.
And that's going to be the challenge of because Fluffy
interacts with the ferruals of course, Oh.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, Fluffy. Fluffy is going to be mates with the
ferrual's Jack And this is this is exactly what I
think is going to happen. It's going to be absolutely
fine until somebody shoots an someone's companion cat on the
head exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, yeah, that's definitely to be a very bad day,
isn't it, to say the least. I mean, I have
you know, I think there are many many responsible cat
owners out there I hate how cats kill native birds.
I think it's actually overdue move to put them on
the period of free list. Fit the feral cats on
the PERIADI free list. I'm really pleased have done this. Yeah,
I suppose the proof of the puddings in the eating.

(03:56):
We have to wait and see actually how they target
these feral cats. And when you to those like urban
rural boundaries and some of those kind of bluerry areas
about where poison should and shouldn't be dropped, That's where
it could get a bit sticky.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's going to get very sticky. Hey guys, we'll take
a break. Come back to you shortly.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
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Speaker 2 (04:16):
Brand thirteen away from Sexy Back with a Huddle, Jack
Tayman Pillow Riley Listen, Jack. I was quite surprised to
hear from the er today that part of the problem
with the phone band, which is working quite well, but
part of the problem is parents who are resisting it.
Were you surprised by that?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Ah, No, honestly I'm not.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Parents are the worst.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Sometimes, I must say, parents can be the absolute worst.
They love putting all of the results of all of
their bad parenting decisions and bad parenting moves. They think
often lies at the responsibility of someone else. But no,
I thought the report told us largely what we already knew.
Actually that, of course, banning kids from using their cell
phones during the school day makes sense. I just think

(04:56):
it's madness that anyone opposed us. I never understood at
the time. We remember Labor was opposed when National First
First went to the election with it. I just think
it makes total sense. And you know, the real question
is whether the success of this will increase support for
a social media ban.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think it will. I think it will. I think
it will actually fail because I think it proves that
you can take something away and you go back to
the good old days in some way, and it kind
of lifts achievement and focus.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
What do you think, Yeah, I think that's right. I mean,
I'm absolutely convinced that we need to we need to
do something about social media usage or young people, and
I think banning it's a good idea myself. Australia's has
done it. Australia is just in the process of doing
it now, so we'll have an opportunity to have a
look at what impact it has, because people say it
can't literally be done well, it's ever oxy shell, let's
ever asked. So I think the way that overcomes some

(05:44):
of the parents' concerns or some of the parents kind
of lack of understanding of this is actually to put
the tools in the hands of the teachers. Parents listen
a lot to teachers, right, So if the government says,
but parents, you should just get with the program, that
won't work. You need to let teachers talk to parents
to say, here's what's actually happening. The litle Johnny's going
much better. You should not hit give them the phone,
and I think they'll trust that kind of advice from teacher.

(06:05):
So to make sure that teachers themselves get ahead of
this and start explaining why it's a good idea, because
I think I think they agree it is.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah. I mean sometimes the thing the parents seem to
say is that they want to be able to contact
the kid during the day. But I mean, we all
went to school at a time before everyone had his sved.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
And we died.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
If you need your kid, you call the office.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
It's not that hard, exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Right, and you actually you don't need to have your
lunch delivered. If you forgot your lunch, sometimes you can
just go hungry and learn about it.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, here's the thing, like we did. Okay, here it
makes you resilient. Okay, here's the thing. So I went
to Metallica last night, guys, and there was this bogan
in front of me. Bless it was. There's actually more
of a metal head than a bogan. And the minute
that they started, he got up in a seat and
he was double horning with his hands and he was
playing the ear guitar and everybody around him hated it,
and they threw cans at him and they made him

(06:53):
sit down while he was having the best night of
his life. My take watching that Jack is that he
paid good money for that seat, and if he wants
to a stand and boggie, he should be allowed.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
What do you think a hundred percent Metallica? If you
go for a nice night in with a Philharmonic, it
would be a different story. It's Metallica. The thing that's
so horrifying to me from that story here there is
that everyone around him wasn't standing up and getting into
it as well. Do you really go to Metallica to
sit down on your butt and be quiet.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes people did, so many people did. Phil Are you
shocked by this as well?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
But it must have been the ones heavily on drugs. Anyway,
below was I was a chuck of Karen Confort, great singer,
much better than Metallica the Auckland at the Civic Theater
a few months ago, the same thing happened Chuck A Khan,
one of the great sole singers and one of the
great singers of water time, of course, much better than Metallica.
But the same thing happened. As soon as she got
came out, everybody just got up out of their seats,

(07:46):
and so did I. I mean, because that's what everybody
else was doing, and you can get into the swing
of that. That's cool fun. You know, it was a
chext one. You're not going to do that if it's
Mozart concert because everybody will be snoring. You want to
be for these kinds of concerts where it's energetic. Just
get with the program, stand up. It's good, fine and
you can even if you can dance, you can sway.
I had a bit of a sway to check you can.
I can't that I'm getting.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
A visual image of this, and it is just it's
just a thing in my head, right.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah. And once you once you're once you thought of it,
you can't get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
No, And I mean like yeah. And also because you're
a very tall man, so the swaying would have been
everybody would have sport.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, that is one thing. I take a lot of
notice of that because people can't see.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But here we.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Go, here we go. Yep.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Is that it for you?

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Is that I'm swaying if you can't see me doing
this when I'm as she's swaying as we speak, I'm
every woman.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Did you feel like that, Phil when you were standing
up there, when you're like, I am every woman?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
That's exactly right. That's exactly what I felt like. I
can't sing quite as well as you.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
No, none of us with you that. I have to
ask you this though, Jack, because I've got a lot
of texts from people who said, if you want to
sit down, you buy a seat. If you want to
stand and go into the moshpit or the g.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
A, if you want to sit down, don't go Metallica.
That's just where I say. I think it's it is
so artist dependent. I just I was flying back to
walking from Wellington yesterday. The entire plane but me was
headed to the Metallica concert. The vibes are amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Where were you going?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Well, I'm just I'm more of a system of a
down kind of guy. Like if I'm going to go Meddle,
I'm going to go metal metal, you know, yeah, I'm
going to go like real political metal, you know, real deep. Anyway,
I and I just I just can't imagine going to
a concert like that and then just putting my feet up.
It just it feels like that the total wrong vibe
to bring to what is an epic event.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, okay, listen, Phil, next time you go to a
cool gig like Chucker, can you let us know so
we can all come with you.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Not that you prepared to stand up.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm standing up and I'm tiktoking you, and that TikTok
is going to pay for my ticket once people start
watching you. Swaying guys, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Look after yourself, Jack time and fellow Riley a huddle
this evening.

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