Don't make stuff up (23 October 2024)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Whip, whoop whip. That's the sound of us whipping the
Australians twenty eight eighteen in the Constellation Cup going good wow,
goodness me. So I'll keep you updated with that. That's
four point thirty six left in the second so I'm
all on it. I'm Johnny on the spot with that one.
So I've got the TV up there in the screen.
I'll keep you updated with that too. A couple of
things from me before I crack into what I'm talking

(00:34):
about tonight. This will come as a surprise to some
of you. Oh, it might have be come as a
surprise to me. I think that act or David Seymour
might have got it kind of right with the school lunches. Yeah,
I think that might work. These school lunch has been

(00:57):
around for three or four years now and it's been
a complicated process with providers and people been happy with
the meals and meals that children are eat and YadA yadia.
So that seems to be a good process they have
gone through with the provider. They have found not everywhere

(01:20):
there be some people doing meaningful work and good community programs.
They could be kind of charities and stuff like that
providing meals, but certainly around the country in some of
the places it's been hard to get the right providers
to provide the meals. And I'm talking about the bottom
of the countries. That seems to be a good thing.
And it looks like the meals that the kids would
like to eat. And of course over time they could

(01:42):
develop on that and they could make them in fact,
perhaps ones that are slightly more nutritious. But yeah, I
think it's an interesting messaging of that scheme. So there
we go with that one. That's the school meals. The
other thing I want to tell you too, I don't
want to tell you I'm not one of these great
people that sits on the radio and says great prophecies

(02:06):
from them out that this is going to happen or
that's going to happen, because that's not my style. And yeah,
sometimes people do a lot of that. Then when they
actually that, when it doesn't come true, what they say,
well they've moved on, haven't they. So anyway, But doing
some reading last night and some subsequent thinking, this is

(02:29):
my comment on the American election. I think Trump will win.
And the reason I say that is because of the
number of undecided voters. And you've got two candidates that
are so different that I don't think anyone really could
be undecided. So I suspect the undecided voters are people

(02:54):
that will vote for Trump, but they want to do
that covertly and they wouldn't feel comfortable answering a poll
about that. So I think the undecided will go Trump's
way and Trump will win. That it's in two weeks time,
So I'm not saying that's prediction. I'm not saying that's
why I want to happen. I'm saying that's why I
think is going to happen. If that doesn't happen, I'd

(03:16):
be fine with that. By the way, I saw Barack
Obama and Marshall and Eminem on the stage today with
the campaign look pretty exciting. Guess a lot of people
would have looked at that and what a ticket that
would have been old Eminem and Barack Obama, because Eminem
was great on stage. But that's not the way it's
going to be. And of course Barack Obama's had his

(03:37):
two terms. I forget the law that means you're restricted
to two, but that's the way it happens. Anyway. Welcome
to the show, Marcus till midnight. I hope it's good
where you are. Ten past eight are thirty twenty two Australia.
Catching up? What did pique my interest today? Tonight? Today?
Something I haven't discussed on the show, But there isn't

(04:01):
There is an auction, by the way, I'm never quite
sure whether to say auction or auction. Remember I first
moved south and said auction. People said it was a mispronunciation,
auction to auction. Anyway, there is an auction of Star Wars. Sorry,
there is a terrible mistake. There is an auction of
Star Trek memorabilia that's going under the hammer, and it

(04:27):
involves Captain Kirk's mustard colored skivy and all sorts of
other special props from the TV show, and including Yes
Shatner's and William Shatner, Captain James T. Kirk's phaser and communicator.

(04:50):
The Trekkies will know what they're about. So yeah, there's
some of the clothing and some of the stuff. In fact,
there's Scott He's read tunic. There's McCoy's spacesuit. There's Shatner's
yellow tunic. Yeah Shatner.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Ah God.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Anyway, of course Spock that came up on the chase,
didn't it. He's not Vulcan, he's half Vulcan. Have I
got that one right? I think that's what the question
I saw that Sunrip might have been on the chase anyway,
and of course he's a fictional carrotter. Anyway, So the
auction is coming up for Star Trek Star Trek memorabilia,

(05:29):
and one of the most important options has ever been
of this. So yes, mixed human, human and vulcan. And
what's good is the auction is called bid Long and Prosper,
which I thought is quite a good name for the auction.
So anyway, but we're not going to talk about Star Trek,
that's not my wish. But what I wouldn't mind talking

(05:50):
about tonight, and it's a slightly out there question for you,
what is it that you own that is special, unique, famous,
touched with history. What's the thing you've got in your garage,

(06:10):
in your house and your cabinet above where you keep
the hard liquor, that is something that is your prized possession,
that is a treasured artifact from sport from history, from
your family, from TV, from showbiz, from anything like that.

(06:31):
Be really curious to know what it is. I'm sure
every family's got something you're not quite sure why you've
got it, but it's one of those things if the
house was on fire, you'd keep, and it's one of
those things that's probably a talking point in your family.
I don't know what it is, but the topic's curious
for me in two reasons. I'm curious to know what

(06:53):
you've got, and I also find it fascinating to think what.
I find it fascinating to know what people find fascinating.
So yeah, might be a nineteen ninety five Worries Jersey,
it might be a menu off the Titanic. It might
be a bit of a flagpole from the Far North

(07:17):
that was chopped down. Just curious to know what you've got.
I don't know what I would ring up and say,
although there's probably four or five things that perhaps I
might ring up and say, So, what have you got?
We can disguise your voice? Well why would we? I mean,
unless you've got something incredibly valuable and don't want to

(07:38):
but we won't tell people where you live. But what
have you got? What have you got that's of interest, memorabilia,
historical artifact, something that's just you got there on one
of your shelves or in your garage that's incredibly important.
Might be a vehicle, might be a bottle of Clayton's,

(08:03):
who knows, but I'm curious to hear from you. I'd
rather you then texted, because I like the voices. Very
curious to know about this ever, think about it. Who
someone said what they've got as their soul, but they're
spelt soul s O L E. I don't know what

(08:24):
the thing that I would have would be. It might
be a Lifeboy off the Gothic. It might be a
Rodimu spiral compass. It might be a cookie beer watch, can'
it's Marcus, welcome, good evening greetings. Hang on, I can.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Hey Marcus here, but good things?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can Can you hear me right loud and clear? Thank
you for asking? Terribly good phone line?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Thank you sweet?

Speaker 6 (08:56):
It doesn't it kind of half applies to what you're asking. Yeah,
there's nothing support memorability or anything like that. But I've
got one thing of my dad's, who passed away about
ten years ago, and that's his his wedding ring.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Wow, about fifty years old. And yeah, that's the only
thing I've got of his. So, yeah, that's that's pretty
boy special to me.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Can you wear Can you wear it?

Speaker 6 (09:23):
I did wear it until the jeweler said to me
it's it's it's cracked, and it's it's if you keep
wearing it, it's it's probably gonna not last. So it's
it's on a necklace I've got now.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
All the time, they're still kind of wearing it that
and fact looks better. I think that looks great on
that And did he give it to you? Was it
like was it like that?

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Uh no, okay, no, he.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Yeah, it was one of the one thing I got
out of his belongings.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, it's kind of the most important things that's touched
to me. I mean it's there the whole time from him.
He wore it the whole time obviously.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Nice to hear from you. Can't thank you. I love
how he said, could you hear me now? And there's
a big truck who honking? Did you hear that? Kate
at s Marcus? Welcome, good evening, Thank you, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Thanks Kate good.

Speaker 10 (10:14):
I'm just letting you know a bit of my memorabilia.
I've bought it over from England with me when we
immigrated in seventy four. And it's a piece of Alvin
Stardle suit that are ripped off at a concert in
Sheffield and I've still got it.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
How big a piece is it?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (10:31):
It's about six inches long. It's one of his tastles,
his black tassels that he used to hang off the sleeves.
We need to hold his arm up with his microphone
and his hands singing cucka choo.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
My cucka chew. Do you have you framed it? Or
is it just dusty and the drawer or weird?

Speaker 8 (10:51):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (10:51):
No?

Speaker 10 (10:51):
No, it's sitting in a tin with my autograph album.
You know that he had been hours at school in
England and old photos and the first decimal coins from
England in a plastic box, you know, just things you collect. Wow, yeah,
that's very special. I was only about twelve.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was going to think, and it must have been
tough for you to what what year was that that
you you came here in seventy four? What year did
you grab that?

Speaker 10 (11:20):
I was about twelve. It was about seventy two, okay,
nineteen seventy three or something like that. Yeah, and a
colcert in Sheffield.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, where I'm going with us, Kate, as there you
are as a twelve year old in Sheffield, you have
got Alvin stardust Tehsel. You're right there where it's happening.
And then you're forced to move to New Zealand. That
must have been a struggle.

Speaker 10 (11:39):
Well, no, it was. It was a wonderful experience, very
exciting and yeah I was Yeah, last seventeenth of October.
This month I celebrated fifty.

Speaker 9 (11:50):
Years in New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (11:51):
So wow, yeah, mental but yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Good is mental? Is he still alive Alvin start us?

Speaker 11 (11:58):
No, I know he.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
Died of prostate cancer quite some time ago, which was
a bit sad, but yeah, a.

Speaker 12 (12:05):
Bit of a hope.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's a great story, Kate. It's a great story to
get us going. Thank you so much for that. Some
great texts, a lot of stuff that people brought back
from war. And I'll just read this text because this
is quite a moving text. Marcus Lush Pepper and salt
Shakers from the hospital ship though Wanganella. That my beloved
mother Daphne, who nursed in Egypt during the World War two,
returned to New Zealand not expected to live, weighing four

(12:28):
and a half stone with aerobic dysentery caused by flies
in the food. Wow. I don't think I was aware
that the Waganella was across there as the hospital ship
with Kiwi female nurses. So that's of interest to me.
Cam Marcus, welcome, good evening man, Good thanks Cam.

Speaker 13 (12:49):
I was just ringing up regarding like this stuff that
we've inherited. Yeah, and we call it tanna yep in
New Zealand yep. And yeah, there's been so much stuff
that that that we've received for our families, right down

(13:14):
to the point where there's old greenstone that they used
to use for digging up gardens and stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wow, okay with what with a wooden handle?

Speaker 13 (13:27):
Yeah, and you can tell us. And then there's other
ones that were used for carving out canoes and stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Sure, and the green and the greenstone dsers too, are
they for the canoes?

Speaker 14 (13:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (13:42):
And there's a little bit of reading in the wa okay.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, so you got them on have you got them
in the house, have you?

Speaker 13 (13:51):
Yeah, it's just something that you get handed down.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, And I guess that's kind of what we're talking
about tonight too. Can what people got handed down to
Thanks for that, keep it going. Oh eight one hundred
and eighty twenty five past eight. I'm just talking about Waganolla.
During World War Two, the Woganella was confitted to Serve
and Australia as an Australian hospital ship between forty one
and forty six carried wounded and sick evacuees for the
Middle East, New Guinea Solomon Borneo on the South Pacific.

(14:20):
That'll put her where she needs to be. We don't
know how many crew would have been on her as
a hospital ship. I think the Waganella ended up in
Deep Cove, didn't it as a accommodation for those people
working on the Manapuri Harbor scheme? dB Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (14:38):
Lines a little bit essarif, but I like it. I've
got one of the three horizontal sextants that were used
to survey Willington Harbor.

Speaker 16 (14:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now, I didn't know there was such a thing as
a horizontal sextant. We've seen those people like Captain Bligh
looking at the sun to get a reading, and that
seems to I presume that's a verticals extant.

Speaker 15 (14:59):
Yes, and my one. The horizontal one is not quite
as accurate because it didn't need to be and it
has three legs, so it can be placed on a
horizontal surface and it measures angles between points.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, it doesn't include that it doesn't
use the sun.

Speaker 15 (15:18):
No, so it just doesn't have the filters.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
So it's is it like a spirit level? You just
get it on the level and then you can then
you can measure the angle like a protector, is that right?
Or a compass? I forget which less.

Speaker 15 (15:34):
It didn't actually have to bevel because your two cider
guys objects would be at sea level yep or there
or thereabouts.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Ye, it's a good point.

Speaker 15 (15:44):
Yeah, brought off the harb please excuse me? Please does
punch for that?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
And I'm thinking it's something that's sort of waists tight?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's hard to find one an image of one.

Speaker 15 (15:58):
Well, it looks exactly like a normal sex that you
could use it vertically because it doesn't have the shades.
You'd end up blinding yourself with the SunShot. Yes, But
other that it looks identical to a standard sex. Also
has three screw and legs.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, two or three?

Speaker 8 (16:23):
Three?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (16:25):
Obviously we have had a bit of fun with that bit.
Hard to survey anything these days. Who's got GPS? Turn
up on deck with a sext and people laugh at
you and.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
You tune up somewhere on land. People we ask you
stupid questions, wouldn't they like, have you found? What are
you looking for? Et cetera, et cetera. And it's providence
is good.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (16:48):
I brought it from the harbor board and with the
instructions from the then harbor master that you will look
after this, won't.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
You, okay? And so it was. It wasn't the initial survey,
but it was a survey of Wellington Harbor. Is that right?

Speaker 5 (17:04):
There was?

Speaker 15 (17:04):
There was three of them, just three sextons and they
must have The way I got it figured is they
would best so they could correct each other for each other. Yep,
And three different people do the survey. Excuse me and
the battle you know, but it asn't a cartographer or

(17:24):
a hydrographer actually bag on those measurements.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's a good story, d B. Thank you, nice to
hear from me. Just coming up towards the news, let
me just look at the netball eleven ahead news in
twenty thirty seven, Australia twenty six, Sundra Ats Marcus, Good
evening and welcome.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Oh good evening, Marcus. I can't match your previous call.
That was fantastic. I've got a few things. One that
might not be very kosher is a real fox fair
with the head and the pause and even the little claws.

(18:03):
And I know, and that's from Nuet Sushi. My grandmother
wore it and it was the height of fashion and
it's now ninety four years old.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Or they might come back. In defession, I think it's unlikely,
but you never know.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
Unlikely, unlikely because it's real fair and the foxes. I've
got an affinity with foxes. I love them. But anyway,
that's one thing.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Do you look after it?

Speaker 7 (18:36):
And oh yes, yes, definitely. I used to have it
draped over an arm chier, but it got in the
way and wore a little bit. So now it sits
on my bed.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Infinity for foxes. I don't think I have a deed
one on the bed. Ah, but you don't know. But
I'm not going I just love them.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
I just love them, and it's behind and everything.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Oh no, I know about that, but it's a dead
little fox isn't it. But it might be your spirit animal. Sober,
I've got to run for headlines. But nice to hear
from you. Think I stay there. You got another couple
of other stuff things. Don't you don't want to short
change hold They will come back to you. Don't go anyway, Sober,
are you bag to you? You got your fox? Your
stole a stolen stole? Is it a stole? It's a stole.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
It's it's a stole.

Speaker 17 (19:34):
Really.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
It went around the shoulders and the little head was
at the back of on your back, and the paws
and that came around over your shoulders and hung down
the front. So yeah, it was the high succession. And
one of the other things I was going to mention

(19:56):
an older friend, I won't say elderly, an older friend
is giving me back a sundial and it was one
of my fathers. I know you love them, and it
was one of my father's and she said it should
be with you. So that was really nice.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And your father, your father was a sundial maker, is
that right?

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yes, well he brought the men, I brought the man
from oversea.

Speaker 18 (20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Yeah, he was really into copper work. But he had
a fascination with fun sundials as well. So and that's
normal on Raquino actually is bringing it back to me.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Oh that's good. Look good to talk about sundals too,
So I a better move on. But nice to hear
from you. Thank you. Twenty eight away from nine. Of
course troubled sundal is not good with daylight savings. Well
they'll be good for you though, Karen. Karen doesn't do
daylight savings. How Karen's going. The treasures you've got in
your house, the memorability of the things, you think, well,

(21:08):
actually that's a little bit special. Or someone said this
is interesting enough to on those horizontal sextants, sext and
a sextance in a cemetery, aren't they Someone has says,
Marcus need to set up all three to try position.
That's my opinion. That makes sense too. So you put

(21:29):
those three things in three different points and then measure
of the distance as well, measure one of the distances.
Once you've got one of the distances in two of
the angles, you'd be good to go, would you.

Speaker 19 (21:38):
I don't know, you.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Better Pythagoras or something in there. Clear it's Marcus. Good
evening and welcome.

Speaker 20 (21:45):
Hello, Marcus. Well, I've got in my possession a bottle
of Crevasia brandy and I've had it. I've had it
in my cupboard for fifty years and it's eighteen seventy two.
What it's got a cork in it, and on the
cork it's got eighteen seventy two wow in the old

(22:10):
fashioned bottle. Yes, it's been laying down for all those
years and it's still in perfect condition.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Have you got a plan?

Speaker 20 (22:20):
Have I got a plan for it?

Speaker 14 (22:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Okay? What's tell me? What is it called?

Speaker 20 (22:26):
Did you say Cavassier Cavasia brandy. They still make it today?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And how did you? How did you come upon it?

Speaker 20 (22:35):
I went to England in nineteen seventy six and I
visited some friends and he didn't know what to do
with it. So I bought it off him for twenty
five pounds.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And where had he got it from?

Speaker 20 (22:50):
I bought it from England and it's in my glory
box at home.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh never go okay, okay, But but the person you
bought it off they had because they haven't had it
from that. They had it.

Speaker 20 (23:01):
They had it, They had it, but they didn't know
what to do with it. An elderly couple. Well, and
I've tried to sell it, but because I'm nearly ninety
and I sort of don't know what to do with it.
And it's never been opened.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So what year is it?

Speaker 20 (23:24):
Eighteen seventy two. It's one hundred and fifty years old.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Do you know what them would be?

Speaker 20 (23:37):
No, I have looked it up at some of them.
It's in the thousands. But if you look up eighteen
seventy two, you know. Yeah, so I wouldn't want that much,
but yes, so, but it's still I never take it
out of the glory box. Only when i'm showing somebody,

(23:59):
which isn't very often.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, And I'll be curious though if it's still good
to drink, but I presume I can.

Speaker 20 (24:04):
Last time it would be okay, it's got no sentiment
or anything in it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Brilliant. Oh well, good luck with that, clear and thank you,
Brandy Courvoissier. Of course, I guess I are your prize possession.
The thing that you've got in your house that is
the most interesting thing that's in your house. Oh, while
you're there, Bill, coming to mcgarrette and look at this,
that's the sort of thing. Well, what are you go
there there old blowy. Well, this opened the box. This

(24:31):
in here is one of the first I don't know
what the interesting thing is. It could be one of
the original nurse's uniforms from Shortland Street. It could be
a prototype for the Hamilton Jet. It could be one
of the storyboards from the Simpsons. It could be the
pen that was used to sign the piece accord. But

(24:53):
who knows, you know, Yeah, I have even looked at
the text a part of that one text about the
Waganella or a wang an Alla, the hospital ship. I
haven't really been aware of New Zealand women serving as
nurses in the military on hospital ships. That's some sort
of avenue. I haven't really gone down because they must

(25:15):
have had an extraordinary story to tell. She came back
to just four and a half stone with Sultan pepper shakers.
The only thing I know about hospital ships in recent
times is when they remember when they had the plague
in New York. I put that huge hospital ship into
Manhattan to treat the COVID people. Then they didn't need it.
It's remarkable looking building, ship building, shielding, good evening, faulty,

(25:36):
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 14 (25:38):
Evening, mogus. I mean, You've got a very interesting subject tonight,
and I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
God's that's important. Faulty. If you enjoyed, I enjoy it.

Speaker 14 (25:51):
Fair comment.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
What do you think that? What do you think that
bottle of brandy would be worth?

Speaker 13 (25:57):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (25:59):
I had a second adsp for three years and two
she said it about a fitboard room to me. She
already had me thinking the figures.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You know, really, where was your second hand shop? Faulty,
ky dirty old dinner Kay?

Speaker 14 (26:15):
Yeah, back in nineteen ninety bugers.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Are you look any much railway stuff? Did you deal
with cups?

Speaker 8 (26:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (26:24):
Yeah, but you got a big variety there because it's
a big rural area that any of it supplies to that.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I was thinking, what's your what's your what's your prize position?
From all your years the antique trade? Their faulty?

Speaker 14 (26:37):
Well, it didn't actually come from there. It came during
the cyclone up on the market beach. I remember speaking
to you when I was trapped up there and I
found a relic on the beach that, Yeah, I have
no way I'll sell it. It's a once in a
lifetime it's a it's a spine off the rudder of
federal steamer. I've found out where were where it came

(26:58):
from and and it went down in eighteen eighty seven
on the Marker Beach, and I've got it. It's about
three point six meters long and ways about tennred and
sixty kilos.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
What was the name of the pedal steamer PS?

Speaker 14 (27:15):
Tongue? It was the supply ship that used to do
hard to enter rivers around New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (27:27):
I did.

Speaker 14 (27:28):
I found out some history on it, and it used
to be down the West coast.

Speaker 21 (27:32):
It had come up.

Speaker 14 (27:33):
It was everywhere is this tonguello or MS his no
PS which is pedal steamer?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Okay? I thought that dark vessels for New Zealand. But
one of the ships that went right around the sub
Antarctic islands I've got a book on was a pedal
steamer because I always they always struck me as been terrible,
kind of terrible looking vessels.

Speaker 14 (27:59):
The Mahaga River is the fastest playing river in New Zealand.
You can cheap me on that. I think I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I thought it was the Gray River, but you might
be right anyway.

Speaker 14 (28:10):
And the bar it's like the Wirral River. You can't
get sets into you wouldn't get it in with a
propeller driven boat. And I actually found a photo back
in those days when it used to access the river
mouse and supply the people there in eighteen eighty seven,
and it was last seen breaking up on the beach

(28:31):
at two o'clock in the morning on the twenty fifth
of August eighteen eighty seven. Was the no loss of loaf. Wow, yeah,
and I reckon it was a pretty well known vessel.
And man, the spine of it that I've got, Marcus
has got twenty mill rods of brass through it where

(28:52):
the rest of the roads are broken off, and coppernails,
square nails, copper heating. Nobody alive would have seen one,
and I feel so I nearly swore then, but so
Brooman probably still have found it.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
But what word we going to We're going to do
an F word? No, I was gonna say bloody okay, yeah,
because that's yeah, that would fit. I thought the F
word would be an escalator would be slowly too much
that was required nice to talk forty fifty to forty
two New Zealand up over Australia. I can't find the
name of that pedal Steamer. I'll keep looking for it, though,
but I can see it. I can visualize the picture

(29:34):
the cover of the book. That's about that's that's about it.
So I can see that in my mind, the image. Craig,
Good evening and welcome evening.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
How's it going this evening?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Good? Thank you, Craig.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I've got three things I've got when I was working
for Tisco many years ago. I've got a TV three
watch or brand you in the box? What what?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Don't make stuff up?

Speaker 5 (29:57):
No, I'm not making stuff up.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
What really?

Speaker 8 (30:05):
Yep?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yep. We've got given them by our boss Artisica. We're
working years ago doing installations back and I was going
back when I was about seventeen eighteen.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Wow, and what's what's on the front of it.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
It's just got like the little TV three logo on it,
and it's like a black strap band on it.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I've never seen one, Okay, I remember.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I should take a photo and seeing the three key email.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
But what brand is it?

Speaker 5 (30:38):
I don't know. I've never taken any other box.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'd love to see an image of it.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
And then the other two things I've got from a
friend of mine and lives in the Abra in America.
I've got two bits of things on all from a
limit of plaque. Any ideas what they might be?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Two things on a commemorative plaque from America?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Are they two things on two different plaques?

Speaker 8 (31:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, two different things?

Speaker 21 (31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I thought you might want to guess it was.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
All No, no, no, I want to guess that's that's
that's am I guessing? So you got two parks from America? Right?

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeap?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is one to do with nine to eleven?

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Is it is it? Is it a part of the
site or what is it?

Speaker 5 (31:18):
It's a bit of a metal that was a covered
on clark with the time and date of the event
and all that and a lot of nice bit of
I know what's on temper It is probably seed or something.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
I'd say, how big is the chunk? And it's a
bit of the Twin Towns, is it?

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah? It's probably about the size of say Rubik's cube,
just a small little people of that.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Great thing to say, I love my Rubik's Cube. Yeah.
So how did you come up? How did you come
across it?

Speaker 5 (31:47):
A a friend of mine and a cousin of mine
works and lives in America, and he's a one of
the virus responders. But he did respond to that one,
but he saw it as an auction coming up, so
he bought it for me because he thought it might
be quite interesting. And yeah, it's quite good. And the
other one of God is a small little chunk of
the Challengespace shuttle Goodness that was up for option as well,

(32:12):
and he got there. He said that he gathers me
because I like a little memorial things. It's quite interesting.
It's quite good to look at them. People go, what's there?
And you can explain it to them.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
They're like, man, it's quite I wish you'd done the
competition with that one. Also, So your twin tower souvenir,
it's not it's not a sculpture of the twin towers
made out of it's a bit of the mangled metal,
is it.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
It's just a bit of the R s JA or
whatever it was from the building here.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
So did someone commercially start making those or did.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Your the guys that was demolishing or they did a
few few of them and did them as a just
on a pluque or whatever, and they sold them in
an auction and the money went to help the some
of the families who had accidents in the in the
short ving like some of the responders who he had

(33:05):
dread bridges went to their families.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Wow, m can you see the picture of that in
as well?

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Yeah, I'll do it again to work tomorrow. I can
see all three through you. But yeah, it's interesting. When
people come around, they go, what's that? You explain them
like really.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yep, Oh, it sounds like a pretty interesting place to visit.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well I've been to the ground zero over there, head
look at them, mymora and that's really let's bread taken
as well.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
There's a big chunk of it in christ Church. Okay, yeah,
there's a big chunk of RSJ that's tangled at a
monument to the firefighters. I think. Now, I don't know
the story about that. I don't know if it's related
to the christ Church quake, but you got me thinking
about that.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Now, Well, maybe some of their responders went over there
to help and they came and brought it back as
like a memento or something.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
It might have been something to do with the christ
Church quake as well, that they had sort of reciprocated thing.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Oh to look into that one.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, it's I can tell you about it now. Actually
I can google that up. I always remember looking and
I always get a surprised when I see it. I'm
just looking at the I'm just looking at the list
of all the memorials and Christ Church. Of course, now
I'm not going to find it. A tribute to firefighters

(34:31):
after the nine to eleven disaster, the City of New
York gifted steel from the New York Trade Center for
the creation of this artwork. Graham Bennett's Tribute to Firefighters
honests acknowledges firefighters. Well, why the sculptures based on the
angels created by the firefighters ladder.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
O.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Christ Church is one of the christ which is one
of the few places around the world gifted steel from
the World Trade Center. To be fair, and I'm normally
pretty good on these things, I just thought it was
a bit of steel as it was found. I didn't
realize that it was supposed to look like angels. And
that's not my style to criticize piece of art, but yeah,
I didn't know it was that. I didn't realize it

(35:11):
was representative represent and I think it's quite a good
sculpture too. How big is your chunk.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
It's probably about the size of rubus.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's what you said, They didn't you, Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Yeah, it's not not I guess it was. It was
far too big, too expensive to get it here anywhere
from away from America.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
It does look slightly like angels.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
But I'm going to go to Crosses the next month,
so I might go and have a look at it.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
And I was not.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Going to have a look anyway. You remember the people anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's not that you can strap your watch on and
go to TV three anymore, is it. I suppose you
could have been downed by the Americans.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah, you know how long it will last?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
For what bit of the space shuttle is it?

Speaker 5 (36:03):
I have no idea. It's just a bit of a
man called meta aluminium and stuff. It's all sort of
charred and bent, and it's probably only about the slaves
of like a cigarette box as a matchbox. Yes, so
I don't really know what part of the thing was for.
I suppose if I took an expert, they probably wouldn't know.
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
When are we going to get your shots tomorrow?

Speaker 14 (36:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:28):
I've taken them tonight and then I'll go into work tomorrow.
And I'm an ins at home the moment, so I'll
send them into you tomorrow morning and you could get
them buy your show tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Good Man, Craig, hold your horse will be with you soon.
I can't kind of seend the images of a nine
to eleven. I can see a lot of ones that
I can't visualize it. Marcus, my father in law served
in the New Zealand Defense Forces. Sixteen Field is an
artillery gunman that went into being in stores while saving
serving in Vietnam nineteen sixty six or sixty eight. While

(37:00):
he was in the storem he would cut deals and
send alcohol back to New Zealand and artillery shells. To
come across one that was vodka. We cracked the lid.
By god, it blew the socks off us, and when
we took a sip, we decided to make lemon cello
out of it. To say, it took a wee wile
to finish. It was so potent. Speaking of white Oh,

(37:21):
the local rag the White our Stars closed a few
months back, has been saved by the local EWE and
we'll launch the first reissue tomorrow. Good Luck wide Oler,
Yeah back at you, Marcus. Message for the Armado, grandparents,
Larry and the garage safe and well off to sleep.
Just to take this one person back anyway we are
talking about we are talking about famous special artifacts you

(37:45):
got in your house. Get in touch, Marcus till midnight,
eight hundred and eighty nine. Text Jim Good, evening.

Speaker 8 (37:53):
Welcome Jim Marcus. It's super Jim.

Speaker 21 (37:57):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Thank you, uber, Jim Good.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
My prize possession is my tie collections of very crump books.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Wow, here we go. Put I'll put both I'll put
both headphones on for that.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
Okay, all first editions. And I've also got a number
of books written by his why his father that was
written by the first Gears talking or Dear Culling team

(38:32):
that Barry worked with when he was a kid. So yeah,
I just ye, he was a very special man. A
lot of people don't like him, but I.

Speaker 21 (38:42):
Thought he was a really cool guy.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
And now I think I think, I think too that
his wife, one of his wife's, has just died. Flordcock,
Is that right?

Speaker 8 (38:52):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yes, she died last week. There was some obits about
her today I was reading, so okay, no, no, what
was her name? That's hang I might have got her
name wrong. Yes, it was Flordcock Robin.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
He had about four or five So there was a
couple that wrote books.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, she was a poet. Her name was Fleur Adcock
and she was a poet that was mainly living in
the UK. She fled after the marriage broke up, and
she came back and fought a bit. But yeah, she
was married to him from sixty two to sixty three
before she married Alice to Campbell. I think.

Speaker 8 (39:27):
Yeah, Well Flir was with him when he was in
in Australia catching crocodiles. Okay, so it was pretty amazing
why and interesting thing with his books. Never any swearing,
so there's not one swear where many of his books.

(39:47):
And never any sex believable or not. Yeah, so good stories,
good reading.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Just yeah, you've got the complete set, have you everything?

Speaker 8 (40:04):
Everything he wrote and they're all first editions, some of
them are signed, and yeah, that's my prize possession. It
took me years to collect them all and with a
bit of swapping and skullduggery to get first editions.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yes, because they all had that. They all had those
quite distinctive sort of drawn sort of sixties looking covers,
didn't they.

Speaker 8 (40:27):
Yes, yes they did, and the the artist and the
publisher It was the same right the way through. I
think it was read from memory with the publishers and
the artist. That name escapes me. But he did the
covers of the books and also the illustrations of the books.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Okay, And then I remember interviewing him later on in life.
I forget where we went on. There was in the
South Island, Havelock. He was doing kids books about the
pungu of People. Did you do you have those at
all as well?

Speaker 8 (41:00):
Yes, yep, yep, the Windy pter uh, the there's about
four that he did anyway, Yes, I've got all those,
and I think this is Windy Flax and the pung
of People.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 8 (41:17):
I think that's the title of the first one. And
you've got there's a little wee tiny book, which is
the Songs of a Drifter.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yes, we wrote part of them.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
And yeah, it's just an amazing collection. And most of
the books I've read numerous times because yeah, I get
a throw out of them. They're just cool, cool stories
that we don't see anymore.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
How long did it take you to gather them?

Speaker 8 (41:48):
Are probably over ten year period, I guess This is
a little segue from my story. Is my fascination with
them started. I don't know if you remember that he
had this adventure. Was a group of kids on down

(42:09):
on the errands? Yeah, well I was supposed to. I
was supposed to go on there from but I got second.
So yeah, a good friend of mine was on it,
he wasn't. And Joe or yeah, so always admired the men.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Were they people? Were they people from the school? From school?
Those five? Because five children drowned, didn't they like Matahina?

Speaker 21 (42:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (42:35):
Was it five or four?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Five? It says, I'm wiki.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
Yeah, okay, No, it wasn't a school.

Speaker 21 (42:44):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
But they were they free? They were people you knew?

Speaker 11 (42:50):
Were they?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
The one was yeah, okay you said that.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
Yeah, that's back in the early sixties.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Once you'd collected them all, was there a feeling of
what do I do now that you've got everything? Did
you feel empty once you had them all because your
mission was over?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
No?

Speaker 8 (43:08):
Because it's just something that very dear to me.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
I mean, there's the probably.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
There's no value with them apart from the fact that
I love them, And yeah, I just enjoy reading and
enjoy having them.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And yeah, it's good. Yeah, no, good on you, and
I find that for every interesting, Jim, So thanks for
coming through with that. That's brilliant, brilliant. About time we
had on Marty back on the radio too. He was
always good on the mid dawned Marty Crump the Sun Nicola.
It's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Thank you, Nicholas.

Speaker 9 (43:45):
Now that's really interesting because I am reading very crumped
The Adventures of Sam Cash. Oh really well yeah, yeah,
so that was a very good.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
And why are you Why are you reading that?

Speaker 9 (44:02):
Well, I've picked it up at the op shot for
three bats.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, with no shore, and I sold a ton. I
mean there are some of the biggest selling books he's
ever been in the country. So you do see him.

Speaker 9 (44:10):
Around absolutely hilarious. Great, okay, yeah, but my tongue, as
I call it, Ye, I have a very special I've
sort of got a medal from my great grandfather.

Speaker 16 (44:30):
I've got it.

Speaker 9 (44:31):
I'm sitting here looking at it and it is a
silver I think it was on a fob change and
it says it's presented by APU for having one to
first in a second.

Speaker 11 (44:50):
On May the.

Speaker 9 (44:51):
Eighteenth, eighteen ninety four, taste piece, honest toil. So that
was a brass band type song.

Speaker 17 (45:02):
Oh yeah, so what.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Was the medal? Well, the middle for that, they'd want
a brass band competition. Have I got that right?

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (45:10):
Yeah, I think so. And it's all been formulated and
it's all handmade.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
When they are connections with the past, don't they see
why they call them tongue and stuff when you're going
to hold something like that with that direct connection to
the person that it was a part of.

Speaker 9 (45:27):
Yeah, and it's got to stamp on there saying it
is a silver piece, so it's pretty special for me.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Has it got a hole on it? Can you wear it?

Speaker 13 (45:39):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (45:40):
Yes, definitely yes?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Do you do you wear it? Do you wear it?

Speaker 9 (45:45):
I haven't. I have done, but I haven't recently, but
I'm going to do it now.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Good on you. How far through the book are you?

Speaker 9 (45:54):
I am up to page yeah, my page thirty one.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
It's not signed or a first edition or anything.

Speaker 8 (46:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I should have asked James about that or Jim about that.
I'd be curious enough if it was. If he's got
any first editions or signed books, I'd also be curious
to know. And maybe that's something Marty could do what
happened to all his because I was just reading a
book about a American dealer. Sometimes. Now, if you get
all the if you get all sort of a writer's
manuscripts and stuff like that, you know there's a big

(46:31):
there's a big industry and selling all those off to museums.
Alvin Stardust cheapest creepers, fans having the tassel from Alvin Stardust.
I don't even know how his song went. Get in
touch by names, Marcus, we're talking about the memorability or
the things that you have. Get in touch. If you've

(46:52):
got something to say about that, Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, nineteen ninety detext ellen, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 17 (47:04):
Oh good even here's something you're part of the world.
From Bluff Back in the nineteen twenties, a brand new
cargo ship, the Cononey, was on a delivery voyage to
New Zealand. Then she hit the rocks on the back
of Bluff Hole and sank. Now the harden master at
the time salvage two big grass portholes and dead lights

(47:26):
and clipped them as a souvenir. In nineteen twenty nine
he put them into the foundations of a new house
he was having built. And they're still on the foundation.
They're still on the foundations of our house today.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
So were they put in the foundations in a decorative way?

Speaker 17 (47:48):
No, we just set under the foundations. Just you know,
in the old day, the builders building your own home
would often put grass bricks into the glass bricks into
the foundations. Well, these are they're probably sixteen interest in
diameter and the original heavy brass portholes with the big

(48:12):
brass headlights behind them, and he sent them into a foundation.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Okay, so you can so you can see them?

Speaker 17 (48:22):
What hell you?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I can't mean, I understand, Okay, I understand now. So
it's done. It's done decreatively, and it's done for effect.
And it looks good, does it.

Speaker 17 (48:31):
Yes, The slush for thee the slush for the concrete foundations,
and it's just part of the foundations. Two big brass
headlights and portholes.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
And you've always you've never thought to liberate them. That's
where you think they need to be.

Speaker 17 (48:47):
Well, first, hardener Bolt the bookbok House is a hard and
master and he has sold it to the next to
another half master. And they'll say in nineteen twenty nine,
so they're ninety five years old. And wouldn't dream of
They're integral part of the foundation, wouldn't I wouldn't dream

(49:07):
of removing them and reinforcing it. That would take too
much from the house.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
And did you always know what they were? Even even
what we hi?

Speaker 17 (49:18):
Yes? Were you were the were you the the bloke
we bought it from? The the hard Master told us
where they came from and what they were. And the
original owner's daughter came and visited us some years ago
and they brought that brought their quad, a lot of
memories to her.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Heavy to carry over the hill. Yeah, what might have
brought them by boat? I suppose to you not necessarily
come by?

Speaker 17 (49:46):
Yeah, they would have put they would have put another
you know, put a launch alongside them and removed them
and then carry them back to bluff here.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
And it's got no mark, it doesn't it's hasn't got
Kennedy on them, has it. It's that's just that's not
marked on them at all. There's there's no numbers or
anything on.

Speaker 17 (50:05):
Them, nothing like that. They built a brand new ship
and they don't expect they don't expect us going to
hit the in before even makes us here the first
Land four was crashing out of the rocks the back
of Bluff film.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Okay, well, it's funny you've rung Allen because I just
and this might sound like a just in case, I
don't you see you in the street. But I was
at the cafe today and I bought a copy of
the Bluff History Group's newsletter.

Speaker 17 (50:40):
Jan cropped them up today, and I was.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Very pleased to see a shot of the camp Store
and the Gillen Stalks. I've never seen pictures of those before.
I always have people talking about the camp Store and
Gillan Store, but I've never ever seen an image, so
I was very excited to see that. So I thought
that was brilliant.

Speaker 17 (50:59):
So all these small towns have their own bit of
history and notable families, and of course the sars are
we stores go. He had read a super market's killed
all the little knock bars and stores, and yeah, we
get a lot of pleasure out of you of putting

(51:20):
those things together, and I.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Pleasure reading it. Thank you so very much. Jallen, Oh
eight hundred and eighty twenty three past nine, Get in touch,
Marcus till twelve. Yeah, I just remember what Alvin Stardust
sung to pretend you're happy when you're blue. It isn't
very hard to do, that's right, Britain. You I won't
sing always get complaints. Marcus f Yi won one Berry

(51:43):
Crump book Pooha Road is quite rare, with only eleven
hundred ever printed originally. I have several first editions. Steve,
Thank you Steve. That's different from Jim who's got all
the books. Oh, eight hundred eighty Tanny nine to nine
to de text title twelve. Tony Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 12 (51:59):
You, Marcus.

Speaker 21 (52:00):
How out here this evening?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Good? Thank you, Tony. How are you going?

Speaker 14 (52:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (52:05):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 12 (52:06):
I'm the keeper of some of the family history and
one of the things that I have which is quite
interesting to us is my great grandfather's medal from the war.
And he served, he said, in nineteen oh one, so
towards the end of the war. And it's just got

(52:27):
the list of the places that he served at Lang's Neck, Transval,
Orange Free State, and Cape Colony with a medal of
Queen Victoria on it. And yeah, he was from Partier
at the time and served in the Mounted the Mounted Rifles.
And I guess you had to pay your own way

(52:48):
to get to South Africa as well.

Speaker 8 (52:51):
So well.

Speaker 12 (52:53):
Quite interesting is that he never claimed the medal, so
we got it actually sometime later. So I don't know
why I didn't claim it, but it just went unclaimed
until it came into our family's possitionion.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So you could go if you could afford to go.
That's why with the Boer War, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (53:15):
Yeah, you had to You had to provide your horse
and the rifle and then pay your way to get over.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
There and people.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Which is kind of interesting because six and a half
he was actually.

Speaker 12 (53:26):
Yeah, and he was actually a convicted felon. He had
spent the previous eighteen months in prison for breaking and entering.
So I don't even know how he was his journey.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
This is a good story. This is like join the
French Foreign Legion to kind of wipe out the deeds
of your past. Wow.

Speaker 12 (53:43):
Yeah, so exactly. So he was born in kai Ewi,
which is just a little settlement kind of.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
In Manu.

Speaker 18 (53:53):
Yes, his dad was a swindler, kind artist, kind of
a small petty criminal and he was raised with that.

Speaker 12 (54:06):
Kind of thinking. And yeah, I guess tried to turn
things around. By going off to war. But he did
come back in one piece.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So it's not the metal that's fascinating against the story
of his life, ay and what the jail he served.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
In and he was he was sentenced in New Plymouth.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
District Court okay and probably okay, so he gets out
at what age?

Speaker 12 (54:35):
So he was sentenced in eighteen ninety nine and then
for eighteen months and so rightly when he got out
he went and I actually have his paperwork right in
front of me. I can tell you that he went,
he served, when he served. When he volunteered, he was
twenty one years and five months old.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Okay, and he he purchased a horsory head a horse.

Speaker 14 (55:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (55:01):
So that's another interesting thing in the family that we
can trace all horses that they that they trained.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Hang on going back to how can you do that?

Speaker 12 (55:13):
Horses were worth money, so you could you could trace
the lineage and so we can trace lineage back to
horses in England and some of them ended up like
at Santa Clarita, not Santa Clarita, Santa whatever, the racecourses
in l a and different parts of the UK where
they trained race horses. And then my family and Taranaki

(55:34):
trained horses as well. My dad was a jockey for
a little bit and whatnot. So yeah, so he got money.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
So he got a horse from his family and then
took that to South Africa to go in the Boer War.

Speaker 12 (55:48):
Yep, yep, he was a stock rider.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Were they called the rough riders? If I got that right,
that was the that was the ken tag on. So
then he comes back from the war because not many
Kiwi's died. I think a couple of hundred died from
the six five hundred in that conflict. That's a good
story because I'm I'm not even quite sure if they're
on the right side. Were they well as a matter

(56:17):
of perspective exactly, I'm just putting it out there. Okay,
So he comes back and was he a changed man
and turned his life around and he continued to be
a crop.

Speaker 12 (56:25):
Well, he settled down and Partier, found a wife and
that's where my grandmother was born in Partier. And the
rest they say is history.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Did he have a truck, did he a trade or
did he go farming or.

Speaker 12 (56:41):
He stayed in the kind of yeah, the stock kind
of industry, farming in a bit of an avid gardener.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Okay, Well, and there's some terrible story about the horses,
isn't there They shoot them all before they came back.
Is that what they did?

Speaker 12 (56:56):
Oh gosh, I haven't looked at it that much.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Okay, to go home and google.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I've got something in the back of my memory that
seems to something about the horses. Because, yeah, that's incredible,
And that's your great grandfather.

Speaker 12 (57:11):
A yeah, great grandfather, Samuel was his name.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And how about the fact that he didn't want the medal,
but you went and got the medal? Do you think
that is the right thing to have done.

Speaker 12 (57:23):
I mean, I don't know who got it.

Speaker 21 (57:25):
I wasn't the one who got it.

Speaker 13 (57:26):
It just ended up in.

Speaker 12 (57:27):
A box of things like things from aunties and articles
and whatnot. And when they're getting rid of the fingers,
I'm like, no, I'll take that.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And okay, I thought you must Okay, I thought you
were saying you must have gone to the medal commission
and got the medal himself, but he didn't want to,
but someone else in the family subsequently applied for the medal. Yes, correct,
How fascinating. I can't even imagine what vessels you could take?
All those because I must have taken six and a
half thousand horses over there.

Speaker 12 (57:56):
A lot of horses, a lot of food.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Huge amount of horses. I should read about that. It's
extremely interesting, Tony. Thank you for that, Thank you for
all of it. Well, that's all good in it. Get
in touch with your texts and your calls. Marcus. My
best treasure as a seventeen centimeter long, one kilogram ivory
tooth that my late father retrieved from a dead sperm
whale found floating in the Atlantic Ocean ages ago. Marcus,

(58:23):
have my father's caterpillar badge. This is given to people
who jumped out of a plane during World War Two.
It represents the silk from the caterpillar. Yeah, what is
the most interesting. We're talking about artifacts only because I
was talking looking at that Star Trek auction. There is
a Star Trek auction that you can you can bid
for some of the original costumes from Star Trek. Do

(58:47):
you call them costumes? Suppose you call them costumes. There's
more than two hundred rare Star Trek props to go
under the hammer, including it says Captain Kirk's iconic tunic.
I wouldn't call it a tunic, would you? What was
the definition of a tunic? Yeah, that's in the headline.

(59:11):
The headline writers have written that among the items on
offer Captain James Kirk's iconic yellow tunic, I'd call it
a skivvy. It's no different from what the Wiggles have,
is it? But I think it's a tunic. A tunic's
more short sleeve, doesn't it. I wouldn't call it a tunic,

(59:33):
but maybe that's what they referred to it in the show.
I tell you her No trekies. It's gonna be a
multi day auction. It's called bidlong and prosper. Among the
items off for Captain James T. Kirk's iconic yellow tunic
and Starfleet trousers which you're expected to reach one hundred
and eight thousand dollars auction, and the phaser and communicator.

(59:57):
I don't know what a phase it does, although clearly
it's not a working model. It's pretend. But we're talking
what interesting artifacts from history or for the entertainment world
do you have in your possession? What are your tree
And they've been very interesting, Alan with his foundations, brilliant,

(01:00:19):
Tony with his medal. I like what was interesting about
Tony's call right. I don't know what the talkback term
for this is, but his call got progressively more and
more interesting. I don't know what the phaser in Star
Trek does. Does that actually? Do you use that to
transport people? Someone could text me through that I might

(01:00:42):
be a weapon. I don't love Star Trek only because
you're not going to bed missavings on the tunic in
terrible condition. Good evening, Billets, Marcus, Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
You know I've got a couple of items. One of
them is the original umpire's chair from Wilding Park, the
tennis go there in christ Church. It's it's like a
huge tractor seat on a pole and it has half
a dozen lugs on with the hare to sort of

(01:01:17):
climb up, you know, you'd have to be a bit
of an acrobat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
It doesn't sound that good. Does sound more like something
you'd seen in a circus, doesn't it? Because they're only
quite grand things. The umpire year Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yeah. And the other thing I've got as a as
an old copper cauldron. I was told it was made
at Birmingham in the late eighteen hundreds. It's at way
sixty eight kg. It solid cover and I've recently found
a maker's mark on it, and I'm I'm offering one

(01:01:50):
hundred dollars to anybody that can give any information on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Okay, let's just part that for a sick I'm still
on Wilding Park, right, that's still sorry, that still exists
as a big tennis place in christ Chair that's correct,
named after named after the great tennis player something Wilding,
right obviously. Yeah, that's a year and it's right close
to the red zoned area of Christchurch and it beck's

(01:02:15):
almost right onto that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Yes, is it Wooden Road or Gloucester Street?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I think it might be the road and there seems
to be one. It seems about twenty courts there and
some undercover. So how did you come across the chair?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
The chapter was working here at the time. They dismantled everything,
and it was it was being thrown out great and
and he retreated and I got a lot of him.
And I've had it for I've had it for a
few years. But I wasn't going to put it in
my garden, but I think it would be a bit
of a waste.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
But what I love about it as far as an artifact,
it's totally useless isn't It's not much you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
It is yeah. Yeah, I mean if you put it
in the yard and the kids started climbing up and
it's it's bloody dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, and you need you need because presip it's got
about two feet go but out below the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Is that right? I would say it would have been. Yeah. Yeah,
it's the pole on it's probably it's as thick as yarn.
But the lights to climb up it, you know, e's
a side. It's that you're sort of you're sort of
climbing straight up, you know, vertical whatever it is. And
then then you've got to get your bum onto the seat.

(01:03:25):
Once you got up there, you wouldn't want to leave
because getting down is probably just as hard as getting up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I've never really known what a lag is, but I
I'm look better.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
It's like it's just like you know, I suppose it
be Aiden's food. He's sick. Pipe sticking out the end.
You just sort of climb up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Okay, now your copper. You've got a copper and then
it's the copper cauldron.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
It sits on a tripod and it tilts and it's
got a huge lip on it. And also got to handle.
So so you imagine it's sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Chocolate. Yeah, okay, I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Yeah, yeah, chocolate, chocolate. The thing that I was told now, now,
the brand of the mark I've found on it is
see why one for one three four. Now I can't
trace that anywhere in any of the library Why one four? Yeah,
see why one for one three four? And I've looked

(01:04:29):
at all these books that have got all the maker's
marks for copper and brass, and you know, all these
gold and different things, and so I can't find this one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Hundred bucks. If your crack the cane, one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Bucks for information, yep, yep, any information on this hundred bucks.
I actually put it on trade me a couple of
years ago because I had to get rid of it.
My wife didn't want it hanging around anymore. And it
actually sold for five thousand dollars, but unfortunately the fellow

(01:05:01):
who board it had somebody's account to try and pay
for it. So I get emails from from everybody who
trade me and the fellow who tried to buy the
people who owned the account. And after that I put
it back on and somebody offered me four thousand dollars
and I turned it down, so I think if I

(01:05:24):
think I could, if I could find the history of it,
it's probably worth you know, it's probably two three times
that amount.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
We'll see what we can do. Bill, thank you so
much for coming through. Night Away from ten. Laurie Marcus welcome,
good evening here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Hi Marcus. Yeah, hey, I have got a collection of
historic survey instruments, but one of the ones that I
quite enjoy is the heliograph, which we use for signaling.
The one I've got is a remnant from Landon Survey

(01:06:01):
dated nineteen and one model and survey as used them
for obviously when they're doing triangulation long distance. You could
seend somebody up a hell with a mirror and pointed
at where the field light was and they could see through,
you know, up to up to one hundred and fifty

(01:06:21):
k if you wanted to, but sometimes less, and you
could transfer messages with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Them through Morse code.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Glorry yeah, Morse code yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
To live.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
So that's hello. That graph is the sun. So so
someone's on your mountain right and you've got a mirror,
and you got the curviture of the earth. You get
one fifty miles did you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Say, Well, you had to be to get that distance. Obviously,
you had to be in elevated points. I think the
record was over and and when they were hunting down
Geronimo eighteen eighties, I think they got pretty close to
two hundred miles from one high mountain. They didn't test anyway,

(01:07:04):
obviously Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
So how do you get how do you aim it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
You just go back and forward it? Do you the
sweeps until because you can't see that length until you
get a reflection.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
No, you've got an aiming point. This little little arm
you put out in front and you stand, say where
the sun's coming from, look into the mirror and look
through the sight which you can put it onto a peak,
and then you manipulate the mirror flash until it's shining
on that site. Okay, yeah, and you can use it

(01:07:37):
either with two mirrors. You can do it with the
sun in the other direction. They sit on a tripod,
so you'd need.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
To know the angle in another distance to work out
their distance.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Is that right?

Speaker 10 (01:07:48):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
No, you don't know. You just visually it's yeah, it's
you probably have to see a picture of them. It's
quite interesting because I can see what I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I can see a picture of them, but are you
measuring distance or angles with them?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
We don't actually measure out the person at the other
end with a field light would be met ring the
angle through that mirror that that doesn't actually measure. That
makes sense, but but but it has the applications, you
know when you're talking about the Boer War. They were
used by the British military, you know, in the colonial times,
particularly bore Wars, you know, especially the seas Siege of

(01:08:24):
Mafficking and Relief of Ladysmith, all those major battles where
the communications were with that, and the British certainly up
in India they had a whole network of helio stations
leading right up to the Kaiber Pass up in Afghanistan.
But the good thing about it, there's a net quite
active Facebook group I'm part of. It's called the brit

(01:08:48):
British Heliograph Club, and they are actually but most of
them are based in California, or lot of them are,
and they go out periodically around different peaks and mirrors.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Do you do you do it?

Speaker 19 (01:09:03):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I haven't got anybody to scind to mirror out here, Honestly,
I think you'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Well received if you got onto the Bowing and went
across to Los Angeles. I think they love you. We
got we've got Larry from New Zealand, British. It's a
British made heliograph, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Yeah, well the mirriators, I mean that's a British one
and the Americans did copy them because you're just just.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Hang on the Larry, because I got got on the
news and they've got some more interest in you. I'll
read frantically about heliographs during the news because that's a
new thing. Back to you, Larry with your heliograph, So
we were what are you gonna do with that? Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
No, I keep it all. When the neutron bomb goes
off and that short of communications it could come in useful.
But there's quite or two key New Zealanders around that
have actually bought them. Than some stage you might get
around to having a reenactment some place, but just an

(01:10:06):
nice they've got a real steampunk look about them. But
the history that goes with them because on the Facebook
there's one some of those guys they really do research
and they get to give you copies of the messages
that you know relayed you know, relating to Geronimo or
or great sieges of the Kiver Pass and uh, it

(01:10:30):
goes back even I think the time of you know,
Rudyard Kipling was kicking around. There was one sort of
homesick British officer was sending a message back to his base.
Uh and and he had a commanding officer. It was
a bit of a red bag and he didn't realize
he was looking in on the message coming in, but

(01:10:52):
he said tosspect saying that keep making certain that that
barstard doesn't get anywhere near my wife.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Okay, wow, okay, Now I think people and you did
it with big collections of surveying stuff. That the sort
of stuff that people be writing too, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's probably a few round I haven't
struck many were sort of focusing on the helios. At
present it was mainly you know, would be the ex
government guys would have had them. But when the New
Zealand Army had a lot of them as well, and
they were used you know through the First World War,
even at Gallipoli from signaling from the shore out to

(01:11:29):
the ships. They could send messages. They didn't send messages
back by Helio because the Turks could have read them.
But the yeah, they are still we were still using
them on triangulation probably up until the late nineteen eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
You used them and your surveying days you used them yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Oh yeah, know when I first first that up, you know,
used to be given a pack and sent after some
mountain somewhere and told to shine the mirror at where
the the odd light was going to be and stay
there until it's done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Yes, okay, nice to talk to you, Laurie. Thank you,
thanks holding on to ten past ten. By the way.
As far as what was the guy with the medal
from the bar walk called then Tony, I think there
was only one horse that came home. Major was the
only New Zealand horse to serve in South Africa and
return home. He belonged to Lieutenant Robert Colin to the

(01:12:27):
fourth contingent after Collins was rooted. Majors serve with the
number of men before coming to the position of Lieutenant
Colonel Rossa Porter Major Djil Obviously they have a good
trypleit in action. Porter took him to London, where he
went there as a command of his encronation contingent men
and horse then returned to New Zealand. So there we
go free fascinating. Because their lives depend on their mounts,

(01:12:50):
many soldiers formed strong emotional bonds with their horses and
found it hard to part with them. At the end
of the men's period of service, their horses were passed
on to the replacement contingent. Just one came back. The
bitter history that you own kind of what we talking
about tonight, Sean Mark is welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:13:09):
But I've got a tip of a county tree. It's
over two thousand years old and it came from a
log out there mal Far where the waters have preserved it.
And there's another log lying in the water itself and
it's thirty feet across and even bigger than that. No, Malfa, Mala,

(01:13:35):
there's a county log complete the stump of a tree
that was found when they were building the power station
and pure clay, and that has been carbon dated at
forty thousand years old. Wow, And they haven't decided what

(01:13:56):
to do with it yet. But the stump itself would
make an excellent memorial to something like Coupeie arrive in
New Zealand. Yeah, it goes back a very very long way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
So you've got you've got a log. You've got a
log yourself, have you?

Speaker 16 (01:14:19):
No, I've only got a chip off the log two
thousand years old.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Is it a big chip?

Speaker 8 (01:14:27):
Yep?

Speaker 16 (01:14:27):
It's in now six inches long and about six inches widen,
about nine inches long.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Okay, I've forgotten that to powers. So that's a geothermal
power station?

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
Is it?

Speaker 10 (01:14:38):
Does it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Does it generate much power?

Speaker 16 (01:14:41):
Yep? When the last big power track came down, the
generated power for Northland.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Oh when they cut that, when they when they choughed
down the pylon, it.

Speaker 16 (01:14:54):
Was super team in quite handy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Okay, appreciate that, Sean, thank you for coming through. I've
got announcement with a Loto one two. An Auckland powerboard
player wins thirty million dollars thirty point two. The dream
has become reality for a lucky powerball player from Auckland
after winning thirty point two million with Powerball First Division
today's Loto draw. The winning ticket was sold in Albany

(01:15:20):
Central Superret in Auckland. The prize is made up for
thirty million from Powerball and two one thousand from lot
of First Division. So there you go. Albany Central Superret
I like it when it's sold by a shop one
twenty Dairy Flat Highway, Albany. It's a fairy, humble looking shop,

(01:15:41):
real humble, humble, mumble. What a humble looking shop that is?
Have you seen it?

Speaker 15 (01:15:46):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (01:15:48):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
God, to look at that? That's like that is like
the world's smallest looking dairy. There is an Albany Village Dental,
then Liquor Spot Albany and then Albany Central. It's a
tiny little shop. Wow. Wow, I can't see gumble machine outside.

(01:16:12):
You in the right place. I'm on Google Maps. I
am at a different end now I can't see gumble
on machine.

Speaker 8 (01:16:18):
Where is it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I'm on street View. Dan's on just images. Oh you
know it's all changed since that's gone to the gumbeles,
gone tidied absence. Then, and what about the second photo?
Someone's actually taking a shot with ice cream on top
of the fridge. That's it to sticker love to run
a dairy? Are you again?

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
More cigarettes? Is it fresh fruit? There's the onions and
the bananas. It's got everything. Does it say that they
sell nonny? I think they might have a bit point
eighty m we'd you see that? Which photo? Oh, you're
on street view. I think we're out on street View
fifteen past ten. It's kind of yeah, it's kind of

(01:17:08):
close to the Albany Village Hall. I'm not saying why
we go there, but it's not far it's not far
from there, if you know what I'm saying. I'm just
looking at it now. Actually I can't see Dan reckons.
There's a machine that does bitcoin, but I can't see
a money machine outside it. Oh yeah, it's got one

(01:17:29):
of those bitcoin ATMs. Maybe they bought their lotter with bitcoin. Jay,
look at all that. Eh, Oh, here we go. He's
an interesting Texas guy has won the Internet tonight. Scott
is his name? Marcus Hi Marcus. I have two former

(01:17:52):
nineteen eighties Auckland bendy busses Ensid Bus scrapt All buses.
They retired so competitors couldn't use them. My manus was
to preserve one for nostalgia. Once they got permission to
purchase purchase one Enzid buses. Yes, I may need another
in case I even needed any parts. Scott Scott has
two bendy busses. I've a middle belonging to the grandfather

(01:18:16):
of Sir Lawrence of Arabia from the eighth century Indian War,
some Lawrence descendants came to Nina end up in Green Lane, Auckland. Marcus.
I have a Monarchy boulder. It's about the size of
an outdoor bowl. My mother took it from the beach
over one hundred years ago. I use it for a
door stop. It's really precious to me, as I don't

(01:18:38):
have much she had. I tell you what, I'm a
great one to say things with great kind of conviction,
but I'll tell you what. The Monarchy boulders never disappoint
every time I go there. I don't know what happened
to There was some sort of terrorist trap. There was
a souvenir shop and a cafe. I think they've changed hands.
But every time you go down to the boulders, everyone

(01:19:01):
is happy. And who doesn't want to take a photo
of themselves been by a boulder and there's a new
one being berthed out of the water.

Speaker 8 (01:19:10):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Love I like it's almost not too commercialized anyway. That's
just me. That's my Mornarchy boulder.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Rave.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Marcus. The dairy flat superrette that sold the winning lotto
ticket tonight also sold a forty four million dollar ticket
a few years ago. Can we fact check that? Because
that seems wrong because I would think the way I work,
if there is a lucky Lotto shop, I'd avoid that
because I'd think the chances are they won't sell another one.

(01:19:45):
But that's amazing. If that's true, chuse to be oh yes, like,
oh yes, No, I think the other one was dairy
flat Food Mart. I think it's a different place. I'll
fact check that dairy flat Food Mart. I wonder how
much they'll give the owners. Dan, if you want thirty

(01:20:07):
million and I wouldn't even notice start, how much would
you give the shop? I'm thinking quite a lot. If
I've got thirty million, I'm giving them one hundred grand?
Is that all dances?

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Good? Answer after that was a lot. I don't want
to sound like I'm reckless with my money. Would you
give them a million? Because people mustn't because otherwise you'd
hear it. Otherwise I'd sell the dairies Dan's giving them
between Dan's giving them between half a million and mild
depends how it's what they've been like, Oh, goody blewy,
how's it go?

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
A lotoing in from Oh yeah, here you go, say
well numbers, that's right, markers here. Yeah, I don't know,
would you give them a million dan saying if it's
been decades it's of the same dairy and there are
always the ones that's selling Melatto tickets. But I reckon
probably people get overwhelmed because you never hear about people
giving the dairy a whole lot of money because they're

(01:21:02):
all buying it online. Oh yeah, no, yeah, the Dairy
flat Food Mart is somewhere different. The Dairy flat Food
Mart is well along from It's about another ten k's
along from Albany. It's the same road admitted, but that's
the way by out by snow Planet and Falloons Stock Foods.

(01:21:28):
Actually where is that? Oh it's off the motorways, off
the normal I don't even think you'd go past that anymore.
Which it's in the back of beyond because the north
Western motorways kind of bypassed it. Interesting dairy flat Food mat.
It's got a turnstyle, a spinny thing you go in anyway,
It's unfortunate Google map shop for them because it's got

(01:21:49):
the thunderbox portaloo cleaner in the photo. Also, Oh, it's
interesting how much money you give the lot of sellers, Marcus,
don't the dairies get a sizable commission if they sell
a winning ticket selling? I don't know that Dan's googling that, Marcus.

(01:22:10):
I've promised my local k dairy on Keeper Road five
percent of the winnings life changing for our wonderful local
business owners one point seven if i'd won tonight. Jk
Ork Well, it's easy to say that, but do you
do it? I suppose you have to if you've told them, Marcus.
I think that lot of shop is the same shop
that told the forty four million ticket about seven eight

(01:22:30):
years ago. I got my ticket from that shop on
that particular draw, didn't win. No, I've checked those. One
is opposite the church in Albany. One is near the
old gas station on the Old North Road, about seven
k's away from the other one. I've checked them both.
One's called the Dairy Flat Food Mart and the other
one is Albany Central superret. I think that might be

(01:22:53):
something different. Yeah, that's the one. That's the two of them.
Of course, I've exhausted myself back to the topic it
What are you saying, Dan, Yeah, that's it. They get
seven percent commissioned all sales. We don't get that money
if they've won, and that would break no bonus. I
don't think on sales, not winnings. Marcus. We have a

(01:23:13):
World War One German iron cross that was brought back
by by great uncle. We use our imagination as to
how he got it, but it's certainly humbling to hold it.
Marcus is a FORMO lotto manager. I can confirm the
retail out o. It does not get any bonus money
or a part of a big one. And I ought
to make some minimal commission on a sale, and when
I had a rude lot of customer, I reminded myself

(01:23:35):
seven cents in every dollar. I have the diaries from
my grandfather, who was an engineer in the r NZA
from the Second World wore diary entries, what they ate, did,
places they visited, and the planes he worked on. Interesting,
Tracy Marcus, I was giving a piece of the Berlin
Wolf from a friend who was there at the time.
It came down quite special as we are going there
next year. Mark, what about the guy with the bendy bus.

(01:23:58):
So the most interesting thing you own and it's gone
well to keep that going. Let me just what's wrong
with my seat? I feel my seats had better days, Marcus.
I've a crib board that my dad's Second World War
soldier made out of a perspex window screen of a
shot down German plane. That is excellent. A crib board

(01:24:21):
from the perspex windows screen of a shot down German plane.
That's as good as the guy we spoke to one
other time that had a colander made from a German helmet.
Remember that guy, Marcus. Not significant to a lot of people. Well,
that's right, it's about significant to you. Not significant to
a lot of people. But I'm an F one fan.

(01:24:43):
My friend brought me back a nut from the barrier
of the Monaco F one track. He was there on
a holiday. There are a place in the barriers. He
nicked the nut for me. Chairs, Ollie and.

Speaker 22 (01:24:54):
Huber Eats will be expanding into twelve new locations across
the country, focusing on regional centers from next month. That's
food delivery will be available in smaller towns like Tolpor, Levin.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
And and just picking up hang on, hang on, yep, yep.
What was that story that Uber.

Speaker 22 (01:25:12):
Eats will be expanding into smaller centers like Torpor, living
In and Waka.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
That's same thing about in Vacago.

Speaker 22 (01:25:22):
It didn't. I don't have Invacago on my little list
here because I don't have the full list in front
of me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
But it may do we have delivered USI or something?

Speaker 22 (01:25:30):
Oh okay, I mean I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
I mean, you know where we would? Yeah, but so
you think.

Speaker 22 (01:25:33):
Uber Eats would be a positive for your for your town?

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
No, well we're where would you get the food from?

Speaker 22 (01:25:41):
Well, this is true. Is you need restaurants that are
Uber EAT's exit empire.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Yeah, and I mean it's a lot of licensing trust restaurant.
I mean yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:25:51):
Often the restaurants don't like it either, do they be?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Oh I don't know. They get forty percent. Yeah, so
perhaps it's it's not on the list, Tony.

Speaker 22 (01:25:59):
Not not that I can see.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
No, Dan's told me.

Speaker 22 (01:26:02):
Okay it's not. Well, thank you, Dan, the font of
all knowledge has spoken.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Yeah, blend him is wow. Yeah, but we don't have uber.

Speaker 22 (01:26:09):
Either, Okay. Well that how do you get home from
a night out?

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Well you get a taxi. It's a pretty old schooler.

Speaker 22 (01:26:18):
It is very old school.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
I don't know why they don't just open them up,
because sure it wouldn't be much for them to They
just have to open up the app. Because your drivers
are all voluntary, aren't they. They just come in there
and do that.

Speaker 22 (01:26:29):
As far as I know, Yeah, there they are contractors.
Yeah so yeah, yeah, Okay, thank you. If I interrupted
you to know, I was just going to give the
netball score in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Did win that game?

Speaker 22 (01:26:38):
Sixty three fifty two?

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Okay, brilliant, Thanks so much for that. I'll read you
the full uber eat story. Auber Rets announced it will
begin delivering Hungry Malburian's their favorite takeaways from next month.
Blendon was named one of the twelve notications and the
press Lelys uber Eat said theseunications will bring the number
of news in towns to twenty nine. Uber Eats is
always looking to bring more kiwis and more places the
convenience of our service and to support local businesses. Uber

(01:27:02):
Eat will be opening in Topour, Martha and Levin for Tiawamutu,
Hawa in the North Island, Timudu, Ashburton, Wamodu and Waacara
in the South Island. The service will also begin operating
in Paraparaumu and Fieldings. It looks to expand its coverage
near Winnington and Pami. Yes. I was reading today that
in the Cargol the portion of money spent the downturn

(01:27:27):
in the food sector is greater anywhere else in the country,
so which I thought was interesting. So they're feeling it hard,
your South and the hardest hit region and hospitality downturns.
That might be why uber eats aren't coming. It doesn't
matter to me. I'm at work. I'm not going to

(01:27:48):
start ordering food at work because then you mess up
the desk and basically everything's about two minute walk. I
get out of the news and get back in time.
You got old Thai tires, a TI tie across the road.
It's pretty good. I wish I had some rage things
to tell you about some of the things I wish
i'd bought but hadn't purchased. Anyway, that's kind of a
bit of a water Hazel. It's Marcus. Good evening, and wah,

(01:28:09):
were welcome to your high Hazel.

Speaker 23 (01:28:12):
Good evening to you too. My husband, my late husband,
was a clock collector and he I have sixty clocks
for here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Wow.

Speaker 23 (01:28:27):
And he has a German prisoner of war alarm clock.
Goodness black, it's black, but I also we traveled down
the South Island in nineteen seventy four. We slept in
our Holden station wagon and tows the trailer and we

(01:28:54):
had a roof rack. Anyway, we went to Queenstown and
we went on the un floor. That was wonderful, beautiful
meals they served there, and it was so reasonable. But
on the way back I was walking up the Wolf
and I founded that they were repairing the Wolf and

(01:29:16):
I founded nail that they had extracted. It would have
been about seven inches long. It's black, it's slightly bent
from the repairs of the Queenstown.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
What a great thing to have.

Speaker 23 (01:29:33):
I treasure it. It's in my tonic cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
What a great thing to have.

Speaker 23 (01:29:39):
Yes, well, I wrote a diary of my out trip
down the South Island.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Are the unslaw is always God? What a fantastic thing
that is.

Speaker 23 (01:29:52):
It was so reasonable. My diary is downstairs, so I
can't tell you. But the food, well, back in nineteen
seventy four things were a lot cheaper there.

Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Yeah. And also Queenstown was a lot different too, wasn't it.

Speaker 23 (01:30:11):
Oh, it was rutful in years.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Can I just ask you about the German prisoner of
war alarm clock? Is that something that is issued to
prisoners of war so they can wake up in time.

Speaker 23 (01:30:28):
I don't know, because he was given it by a
man that owed him some money. My husband was in business.

Speaker 11 (01:30:37):
And the man.

Speaker 23 (01:30:40):
Probably didn't have a great deal of money that he
needed something repaired, and it was part of the payment.
Like sometimes we were paid by sheep. Somebody paid us

(01:31:03):
with a sheep and they must have chased it around
the Piman ex farm girl chase it round around the
Patican with an old ram and it's tasted like sheep. Yeah, okay,
it was disgusting. We did we faid it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Well.

Speaker 23 (01:31:20):
I'll tell you something that's unusual. I lived in the
king Country and we used to travel over with a
chili bin. We'd contact the butcher there at to Ringy
and he would save us the shanks of the lambs

(01:31:40):
lamb shanks, and we would get a whole chili bin
of she lamb shanks for our Samese cat sixty cents.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 23 (01:31:56):
Now I can't now, I can't afford to buy them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
To eat to eat my silk your lang chapter, so
have the behaze. Look, I appreciate you with it. I'
see if I can find more about the Some military
people know more about the alarm clocks. I don't know
much about those. I don't know whether they'd give people
alarm clocks, what the use of alarm clocks would be,
where they'd make alarm clocks. So if someone's got some
information about that, I'd find that fascinating. So get in touch,

(01:32:21):
Marcus Till twelve oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.
The interesting thing in your possession, the thing that you're
own that is fascinating. What is that thing? And keep
it going because we've got some good calls. I'd like
some more marks. Have a miniature cricket bat signed by
Lance Ken's. My father had it signed when watching us

(01:32:43):
in and play at the Basin Reserves. I've got a
piece of the balloon that took Felix about Gardner into
space for the highest three four parachute jump. Also two
human scales that my dad had in his dental surgery.
Granddad acquired a China four piece tea set in a

(01:33:06):
hollow during World War Two, carried it back to Auck
to England and a pack now now cabin and the
White Rapper only broke one cut Bruce Good Evening Lynnet's
Marcus Welcome Hyland.

Speaker 11 (01:33:21):
Hi Marcus. Yes, my story is that my husband was
a captain and was in Wellington and was sent up
to Featherston to put down me or help bring law
and order into the Japanese Brisoners of War camp in Featherston.
And while he was there, they carved him a dressed

(01:33:45):
cane out of a railway sleeper and that's the memento
that we've got, and it had his name carved in
it in Japanese as well as the top end of
the cane.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Has a.

Speaker 11 (01:33:59):
Lion carved on it and its legs and even carved
under it's belly in that. So you've got the four
separate legs on the top of the dress cane. And
there's a photograph of it with the how it came
about done by my husband in the private museum in Featherston.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Now, look, I spent a bit of time in Featherston
from time to time and I've been to where that
site is. So this is this is your father or
grant your.

Speaker 19 (01:34:35):
It was.

Speaker 11 (01:34:36):
My husband passed on now and the dress cane is
now with his son.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Okay, so it was your husband it was your husband
that went up there.

Speaker 11 (01:34:47):
Yes, he went up there as a captain. Then later
on the Japanese actually told him he was going overseas
before he was even told by the powers that be
in the army.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
And was it.

Speaker 11 (01:35:07):
Fitzterrib Or the chap who was in Egypt and was
in charge of the New Zealand forces going overseas and
he had to relinquish his captaincy and to travel over
to Egypt. And then he went from Alexandra to Brindisi

(01:35:31):
in the transport as a lieutenant. He got back to
lieutenant in the.

Speaker 17 (01:35:38):
Hows of be.

Speaker 11 (01:35:39):
Yeah, but that breastcane is now with his son, So why.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Would have they given that to him because they respected
him so much?

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Is that right?

Speaker 11 (01:35:50):
I suspect that could have been something that happened or
the way they commanded them or treated them in quelling
the riots, you know, getting getting them back into some
semblance of order or something. He never spoke of it.
The only time that he really spoke of it is
when he did this citation and put it in these

(01:36:15):
because the Featherstone Museum, private museum, they wanted it the
original and we were warned that effort went into the
private museum. It became part of their estates.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:36:30):
So that's why we did a framed up picture and
photographed it and presented it to them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Thanks for coming through them. That's very interesting. I find
that great. Yeah, it does say from an article it
says through the war the prisoner's made would work to
trade with the guards. The objects challenged the mainstream narrative
of the Chemp's history. Everyone knows about the instant of
the violence, but these artworks show there was a relationship

(01:37:00):
between the prisoners and the guards. Hi Bennett's Marcus welcome,
going good Ben, Thank you.

Speaker 21 (01:37:09):
Got a some parts from lancasterbomba that my grandfather was
the tail gunner and was shot down over Belgium in
World War Two, And the good people of Lead in
Belgium dug it up and gave my family some parts
of it and invited them all over for a ceremony

(01:37:33):
there about. It would be about twenty years ago now,
so it was pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
A lot of questions from me, where was it.

Speaker 21 (01:37:42):
Lead in Belgium?

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
So it was our Laster bomber in the Ras, Sure
it was was your Was he killed in that?

Speaker 21 (01:37:51):
No, he was the only survivor.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
He was a tail gunner.

Speaker 17 (01:37:54):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
Yes, so they tread roll.

Speaker 21 (01:37:59):
It was a good good time for the family to
head over there and enjoy it at a hospitality.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Yeah, and so they just happened. I mean they'd already.
So the plane crashed, right, and your your grandfather survived
and was rescued from there. Was occupied It wasn't occupied territory,
is that right?

Speaker 21 (01:38:21):
He was No, he was rounded up and taken to
a president of War camp.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Okay, yeah, there's a.

Speaker 21 (01:38:27):
Group or there's a lot of failures there that people
dig up planes like that and uh and do a
fair bit of research. That's a pretty amazing process.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
And so Ben, what have the plane been hidden after
everything else happened in the war? Would to just be
in a forest? Does you know any of the thing
about the circumstances of it?

Speaker 21 (01:38:50):
Not that too muchful. I think they had to dig
it up so excavated.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah, and what did they get is it?

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
What part is in your possession?

Speaker 21 (01:39:01):
Yeah? So I think I think it's like a car writer,
some sort of priming device from them from the minor
and all different, but to the family, like pretty much
they were given as much as they could carry and
get back on the plane.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
And I see they could put they could pick, so
they could pick what they wanted.

Speaker 21 (01:39:16):
Yeah, pretty much. That was pretty interesting. And my brother
decided he was going to bring some ammunition back, but
then he got to the and decided that was it
wasn't such a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
And was your great did your grant Was he still
alive to go back to the ceremony.

Speaker 21 (01:39:33):
He died of Leakemia, Yeah, maybe so he didn't make it,
but my parents, his children made it over there, so
it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
So I haven't heard of a story like that before.
Did you say that happens quite often?

Speaker 21 (01:39:52):
The people digging the digging the planes up here that
are a fairly enthusiastic bunch. And what's the surprising thing
for our family as how well they thought of of
us going from the other side of the world to
defend defend their country, and absolutely they they were so Yeah,
basically the mayor how to welcome them with open arms,

(01:40:16):
and yeah, they were literally treated like royalty.

Speaker 23 (01:40:18):
It was.

Speaker 21 (01:40:18):
It was amazing, so pretty nasty and hang on.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
You're not off the hockey. It was it shot down
by another plane or was it shot down by ground
to wear.

Speaker 21 (01:40:28):
You are too much? Okay, two generations remote.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Yeah, where I'm thinking is because he wanted have survived
a plane crashing. Is he parachuted out? Is that right?
And could you parachute out of the rear the rear gunners?

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:40:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's what I believe happened. And
he had hid in the house and some people had
hit him for some time, but then eventually was rounded up.
And Okay, and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
You believe he did parachute down.

Speaker 21 (01:40:55):
I think so, I assume. So, yeah, I don't think
inside the plane.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
So no, And if he's the only survivor I got,
because well he's I guess it is vulnerable to impegt
from crashing. But yeah, okay, that makes sense. So we've
been so to pep you with questions. It's a really
good story. I'm fascinated by that. PA's got the articles
about that. I wouldn't mind reading about that, just because yeah,
I don't know how those if everyone died, they're not
going to have there's not going to be people alive

(01:41:20):
to land it, are there?

Speaker 13 (01:41:23):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Okay, someone might have some more information that would be
of interest. Surely it's Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:41:28):
Hello, Yes, good evening, Marcus join your show immensely this evening.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Good thank you, that's the plan. Great liking that. Thank
you for saying that.

Speaker 19 (01:41:37):
I have a Tacker Mimi guitar and I won it
about ten years ago and it's been personally signed by
Tony Williams, Dennis Marsh, Suzanne Prentiss, Ray Columbus and Jade Hurley. Wow,

(01:41:59):
it's absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Where'd you want it?

Speaker 19 (01:42:03):
I won it on a two z B composition.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Goodness? How long ago?

Speaker 19 (01:42:12):
About ten years?

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Well, and I'll tell you something. I saw a shot
of photo in one of the women's magazines of Ray
Wolfe talking about his time in play school. He looks fantastic.
He looks like he's still in extremely good spirits.

Speaker 19 (01:42:27):
Oh, well, well, how I won it?

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
Was?

Speaker 19 (01:42:29):
I was driving home one night in two TB were
doing your talk back on what kind.

Speaker 8 (01:42:36):
Of music did you grow up with?

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
And who was the host?

Speaker 22 (01:42:41):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:42:42):
Goodness me, it was a Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Was it Jim Sutton?

Speaker 8 (01:42:47):
An Iranian?

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Was it Jim Sutton?

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:42:52):
Could well have been year about ten years ago?

Speaker 16 (01:42:56):
Oh? Yeah, wouldn't he?

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
Oh it might be?

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Bruce Russell historic, was it, Bruce Russell?

Speaker 19 (01:43:03):
I can't remember? Okay, question you know what music did
we grow up with? And I rang in and said, look,
we didn't have music as such. We were all musical
in our family, and we'd pick up the guitar and
the ukulele and play the spoons and.

Speaker 15 (01:43:18):
We would have a real jam party.

Speaker 19 (01:43:21):
And your name went into a lucky drawer.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Brilliant. It's a good story, shirty, Thank you so much
for that. For goodness sake, what next? Oh eight hundred?
You know the rest? It's seven past ten. How are you?
What's happening? My name's Marcus. Good evening. I've enjoyed tonight
and muchly much muchly well, I'll tell you what. One
thing that's happened for me tonight is the first time
ever in my broadcasting career I've worn the wrong clothes

(01:43:52):
and sitting on the seat it's given me. It's a
comic coad story. I don't actually fully know what's happened.
It's a patent fabric and on the leather chair, it's
pushed through my imprints on my legs. It's weird. But
on what that's about? Marcus, my best friend and I
cared for an elderly couple of England the eighties. He

(01:44:14):
was King George's personal stamp collector. He gave us an
opened envelope that he received an unopened and opened envelope
that he received from the King of Romania in the
nineteen thirties in his handwriting and with the Royal rack
seal tucked away every so often we take a look
at it. That's what we want. Marcus have a bondside
tree that was planted by my grandmother and we think

(01:44:34):
it's approximately ninety years old. Vicky, will you take care
of that? Marcus. First time I've listened to you, I
had an interesting experience in the Greek Islands as a
younger guy. It's interesting because related to your troops in
World War two or our troops in World War two.
Not if you get a guy that listens for the
first time and then texts, is it a guy? I

(01:44:55):
don't know? But look that we're talking about interesting things
that you own. What's the interesting memory or interesting bit
of history you have. I'm talking about the Star Trek auction.
They're auctioning off the Star Trek Tunics, which I think
is are skivvy from Captain Kirk and the half vulcan guy.

(01:45:18):
Of course Spock's not a vulcan, he's half vulcan, half
human that came up in the chase. So what is
the interesting thing that you own? Good evening and welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 24 (01:45:31):
Guess I've got a photo of my father and he
was in the Merchant Navy in the war, the British
Merchant Navy, and I've got a photo of from even
a beer with Hitler. Would you like to hear the
story of how it came about?

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
What do you think I think I'd be fascinated.

Speaker 24 (01:45:53):
Okay, it was in the time of the war when
the North Sea was situated with his U boat with
the radar, first radar, and he was thinking every ship
that tried to cross it, whether it be passenger or cargo, whatever,

(01:46:13):
And so they decided they had to sort this out.
So thirteen merchant ships left London and they traveled out
on the tides and the currents was not using no engines,
just whistle, and they surrounded the boat at first dawn.
They sunk it well. All the Germans were in the

(01:46:37):
water and they fished them all out and took the
wet uniforms, gave them hot showers and food and blankets,
and launded the uniforms and gave them back to them,
and Hitler had come out to the boat to negotiate
their release.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
And in.

Speaker 24 (01:47:04):
The photo there's all the Germans sitting on one side
of the table and these Celtic merchantmen sitting on the
other side, looking very proud, and Hitler's sitting at the
fir end of the table looking pretty stupid. But he
really wanted to know how they did it, how did
they do it, And they just had the pleasure of

(01:47:26):
explaining to him that they had knowledge of, you know,
the skies and the currents and everything that he would
never have because he set his mind another way. And yeah,
so I've actually got the photo of.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
That event, and Hitler's in the photo with your father correct.

Speaker 24 (01:47:52):
Wow, yeah, it's deteriorating. So I've got to get it
to a photographer who can bring the photo up again
and redo it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
And how did your father get the photo?

Speaker 24 (01:48:12):
There were photos being taken of the event, and they
gave them in the photos, each each man in the
boat a photo.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
So he came out for the serama. It was cut
some sort of okay, they came out to negotiate.

Speaker 24 (01:48:27):
Yeah. Yeah, So it was a table they set up
on the gent and the Germans sitting down one side
and you know, in their freshly launded uniform, happy and comfortable,
wealthy and looked after. And Gadd told us that if
it hadn't been the other way around, the U boat
that was thinking chips was just shooting everyone in the water,

(01:48:50):
but they pulled them out because they don't believe in
killing people.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
You've got to look after that photo.

Speaker 24 (01:48:59):
Yeah, yes, I am. I gat it with my life.
There was the tidal waves coming and the first thing
I do is take the photos.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Let's have It's not a title wife coming in, but
thank you. Nice to talk and are it's Marcus hello?

Speaker 14 (01:49:12):
Right.

Speaker 25 (01:49:13):
The most interesting thing that I own is a lady's
shoulder bag. I have a bunch of American in laws.
Some of them are good people, some of them are
not so good. One of the not so good ones
finished up in prison for life in the Angolda State Penitentiary,
which is the same penitentiary that they made that movie

(01:49:36):
dead Man Walking. And while he was in there, because
he's so gifted artistically, he made me this handbag, and
I have no idea why he made it for me.

Speaker 23 (01:49:48):
He couldn't stand me.

Speaker 25 (01:49:51):
And it's very interesting. It's made out of their skin.
It's black their skin on the inside, and it's creamy
colored skin on the outside, and it's painted with American
Indian motifs. It's very very interesting. I think I've had
an awful lot of trouble keeping it because people want.

Speaker 7 (01:50:10):
To steal it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
What year was it made?

Speaker 7 (01:50:14):
Annah about thirty years ago?

Speaker 25 (01:50:20):
And he was so talented that when Hannah Barbara the
cartoon people in Californias, they had a competition. Enter the
competition with your artwork. So he entered the competition and
they wrote there and said, oh, we'd like to offer
you a contract in California in our studio. And he

(01:50:41):
had to write back and say, I'm very sorry, I've
already got a contract with the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
So his relationship to you was brother in law.

Speaker 8 (01:50:52):
So you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Married brother in law, you married his brother.

Speaker 25 (01:50:57):
Yes, he was an office and a gentleman in the
United States Navy. I didn't know he hadn't. I didn't
I was going to finish up within.

Speaker 7 (01:51:07):
Walls like that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
How many times did you meet him.

Speaker 25 (01:51:12):
Well, I met him before he committed the armed robbery
and was sent to prison for life. So I met
him about four or five times. The most interesting time
I meet him was Willian. I was coming home from
work and coming up the driveway and he came racing
out the back door, down the driveway, out along the road,

(01:51:33):
leapt into his car and took off with my father
in law behind him, with the garden trying to kill him.
And that was when we found out that in the
back door of the house we were living it they
had bulletproof glass.

Speaker 7 (01:51:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Did you visit him in Angola?

Speaker 6 (01:51:51):
Yes?

Speaker 25 (01:51:53):
I didn't really know the movie dead Man Walking. We
just happened to go off to the movies and that
none got in her car and drove down this road
and I thought that looks fairy FuMB me and there
I was, Oh my god, that vang Rola been there done?

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
That is he still there? Orld he die in carto
or to get released.

Speaker 25 (01:52:15):
No, he was sentenced to twenty years. Sorry, that's wrong.
He was sentenced to life because of the armed robbery.
But they changed the law and they called it a
twenty twenty law. From memory, this is going back thirty
years or something. And if somebody had been in prison

(01:52:36):
for twenty years and their sentence was longer than twenty
years and they hadn't been in trouble in the prison
for twenty years, they were entitled to parole. So he
got parole and then he just vanished into the wilds
of Louisiana. And there are some very wild places in Louisiana.
I was kind of shocked at how remote.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Yeah, I saw that naked and fraid last night they
were locked in the middle of that and the Louisiana
swamped tod look at pin trouble. So yes, So you
haven't heard from them again.

Speaker 25 (01:53:10):
No, I haven't heard from them again. But I keep
this bad because I think it's just amazing. The bag
itself is amazing, and people it catches people are people's eyes.
But when I tell them the story, I think a
lot of them don't really believe it. I mean, it's
just a story to them, you know, do they Is.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
There a leather factory of Angola prisoner or they do
it and they sells allowed craft stuff.

Speaker 25 (01:53:33):
They are allowed to buy craft stuff with the money
that they make. But it's only the prison. The prisoners
have divided into two lots. There's the baddies and then
there's the ones that don't get into trouble. And they're
called trustees. And at the prison every year or every
six months, they have a fair where the trustees are

(01:53:56):
allowed to go and sell whatever they make. So there's people.
There's the most amazing paintings would work. They're the work furniture.
It's just amazing what they can make. Some of them
are so talented, but they're so scary at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Like my brother in law, And what's the image on it?
You say it's American Indian?

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 25 (01:54:19):
Yes, it's got American it's the stylized version of an
American eagle.

Speaker 7 (01:54:28):
But it's very.

Speaker 11 (01:54:31):
Not flowing.

Speaker 25 (01:54:32):
It's very the lines are very straight and the cross
and it's in black and white and blue, which is
the American Indian colors. From what I can understand.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Did you think them?

Speaker 20 (01:54:45):
Of course?

Speaker 24 (01:54:46):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Does it sailor that's made in Gola Prison.

Speaker 25 (01:54:53):
No, it doesn't say, but it's not my name.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
That's got my name on it. Yeah, Well, I guess
if you've got I guess if you're doing twenty years,
you probably run out of friends. To make stuff for,
so only you just walk through work through your family.
I don't want to belittle you, but the fact he
didn't like you probably doesn't really met it, because I mean,
you're going to make something for someone, don't you.

Speaker 17 (01:55:13):
Well.

Speaker 25 (01:55:14):
Of course I was one of the few family members
that actually answered the phone when he rang, and if
he had something to say with one of the family members,
I would actually pass on with the John. Mind you,
I wasn't popular when I first danced the phone because
this automat has always said, if you accept the call

(01:55:34):
from Angola Penitentiary, you know this person is calling, hold
the line for and I thought they said forty five seconds,
but it said press number one for four to five seconds,
and of course by holding her for forty five seconds,
I cut him off. So I was not popular for
a few years about that. But eventually I think he

(01:55:56):
realized that I was reliable, even if.

Speaker 7 (01:55:59):
He didn't like me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Six three hundred prisoners.

Speaker 7 (01:56:05):
Huge place.

Speaker 25 (01:56:06):
Isn't that huge and the symmetry of even Burger, it's massive.
They must have had tens of thousands of prisoners die
there over the years. Wow, And of course they've got
the death row.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
The still yeah, did you get walked past death row?

Speaker 25 (01:56:26):
No, you can't get anywhere there that no surprises.

Speaker 7 (01:56:29):
No, No, they're right.

Speaker 25 (01:56:31):
They're very, very isolated.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
Right on the other end, are you still married to
his brother?

Speaker 25 (01:56:38):
I'm a widow now, but I you know, And of
course I spottled back to New Zealand as fast as
I could.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
So haven't tried to google search this guy that gave
you the bag?

Speaker 25 (01:56:51):
Well there would be no point because none of them
were very into anything, right we are, you know, the
Internet and Google and faceboot.

Speaker 7 (01:57:05):
And Twitter and all that.

Speaker 25 (01:57:06):
No, they never did anything like that. I mean their
life was getting into their truck, going down to the
localized house.

Speaker 5 (01:57:13):
What do you call it?

Speaker 7 (01:57:14):
Bar saloon?

Speaker 25 (01:57:16):
You know, different lifestyle guns churned the back eye.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
You got a winner, they didn't you.

Speaker 25 (01:57:23):
I was lucky with my husband, but the in laws
scary wow, because I got a terrible shock. I was
going when I first went to the States, I was
going to live like they lived in Hollywood's you know,
the flash cars, the beautiful clothes, the lovely houses. I
didn't expect to end up like the Beverly Hills boys

(01:57:45):
before they found oil.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Who'd you meet the guy.

Speaker 20 (01:57:50):
In about Fort.

Speaker 25 (01:57:51):
Street seven down downtown.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
I love the Fort Street.

Speaker 7 (01:57:57):
It's long gone longer.

Speaker 8 (01:58:00):
Wow.

Speaker 25 (01:58:01):
And then we went across to the Debrett Hotel and
a whole bit group of us and keep the bar
open at the Debrett's Hotel all night.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
What is this like nineteen ninety or something?

Speaker 16 (01:58:13):
Oh?

Speaker 25 (01:58:13):
When did the more finished?

Speaker 7 (01:58:19):
All time?

Speaker 25 (01:58:20):
So the bag fascinates me, and it's got a history
and very few people believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Did you say it's a shoulder shoulder bag? A, yeah,
it's a shoulder bag.

Speaker 25 (01:58:30):
It's got this very long strap on it and the
buckle and the buckle on the long strap and the
buckle on the front of the bag is sterling silver,
and it's got stealing silver conch conscious of that, you know,
the Mexican style conscious the round ones that they leave

(01:58:51):
the laces through. They're all stealing silver. So it must
have cost him a bag to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
It's quite a nice story, Annah, Okay, I mean, don't
you think he's looking for redemption? He's not a good guy.
Knows that. Who's he doing? He's making you a bag?
But he had hundreds of hours gone into it.

Speaker 25 (01:59:08):
Yes, and apparently even some of the warden from the
prison wanted to buy it off them, and he said,
no is sending it to us. So yeah, you know,
even the most scary bad people have got good points.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
And will you visited him at Angola?

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Were you through the glass?

Speaker 8 (01:59:30):
No? No?

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:59:31):
And because he was a trustee, it was in an
open visiting area.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
Oh that's good, so it wasn't it. Yeah, okay, I
was curious about that. And it's been a really good story.
I love that. I wouldn't mind seeing a bag photo
of the bag just been you and me for your
email at me because I just it was such a
good story. But if you know, that's fine also too.
Marcus at News Talks, he'd be dot co, dot and z.

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