Savea shouldbethe captain (17 November 2025)

Marcus talks about the asbestos sand in schools and early childhood centres, the lame TV lotto draw, and then Lois rings to talk the rugby.....

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.
That'd be Greating's good evening, and welcome on him as Marcus.
I hope it's good with you. Are seven past eight.
A little bit to talk about tonight, A little bit
a lot, I mean sometimes lots of little times. A
little to lot. First up, best stressed. I bought Loto
on Saturday. I spent twenty four dollars and I don't

(00:27):
know what I got. Well, it was for POWERB all right.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
But I.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Explained to the children what was happening. We're not really
a lotto family, and I said, look, I said, I said,
we'll be lett. You know, if we win this, our
lives will change a great deal. I read them the
Riot Act and said be prepared because things could change dramatically.
And I keen to watch the live presentation on TV one.

(00:56):
I think there was eight o'clock Act thirty. Can I
just say what a downy presentation that was. This would
be one of the most watched shows there's ever been.
There were that many people the ever fifty five years,
I've never seen such an unimpressive lotto drawer. It was
like it was one of the most. I thought there'd
be some ras mataires and the CEO of Lotto and
sort of a funny oatmeal looking jacket looking very uninspiring.

(01:18):
I thought it'd be some sort of whipper snapper looked
like the woodwork teacher. Then they went to some very
uninspiring kind of went It was pizza and point chier
who wished people it was the worst thing I've ever seen,
and I thought after that I couldn't be bothered. Chicken
the numbers, I thought, cheepert creepers. I thought they'd really
push the boat out. I thought they'd be the whole shebang.
I thought they'd be dancing girls, thought to be everything.

(01:39):
But gee, I didn't realize that the lot of drawer
had become such a bore. So there we go. I'm
glad I got that off my chest. I thought, cheepers, creepers.
Feels like the draw hasn't been rebranded for forty years.
I suppose if you're buying tickets, you're not buying tickets
for the spectacle of the drawer. You're buying tickets for
the prize you get. But still, I thought the spectacle
was something slightly better and the show beforehand wasn't much chop.

(02:02):
I don't know what it was like, an adopt a
pet kind of show, but wow, anyway, And that's not
me just being mean spirit. I think probably even if
I'd won, I would have said that maybe not, But yes,
I couldn't believe what an unimpressive thing that was. And
there must have a bit of money to throw around
the lotto department to do quite exciting things. Even when

(02:24):
they had Kenno and all those different letterboxes, it was
fun to watch. You might have an interesting lotto story
for me for tonight. You might have thought you come close,
or you might have forgotten a got the wrong numbers
or something like that. If you've got a lot of
story before we kick into it, let me know how
that was for you. For us, it wasn't a huge success.
I don't even think we checked out numbers. It was
quite apparent we hadn't won it. That's me not buying

(02:44):
it for other ten years. And I hopefully I don't
watch it again, because boy, oh boy, was that down beat.
It might always be that way.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Once upon a time for those that followed the Doto
in the old days, there was the excitement of the machine.
It was made for an old gentle anti washing machine,
and we kind of followed all of that and the
randomness of it and all those exciting things. But yeah,
that was just dire. I'm sure they could make a
much more exciting way. I mean, I don't know what
the audience must have been. Two million people watching them,
were there for the big or maybe people just watch

(03:14):
it online. But I always thought it was going to
be a big deal. But you might want to comment
on that. Unimpressed. I don't know what I was expecting.
Was expecting more, expecting drum or maybe there was a
drum roll. I was expecting more than drum rolls. As
I said, I'm not just saying that because we didn't win.
I mean I think probably we knew we weren't going
to win, weren't going to win. We weren't winning. We

(03:36):
weren't going to win. I was prepared for that. I
forget who won. I think someone was an aucland someone
was in cowdoh, someone somewhere else. I can't remember all
the three. You get eighteen million if you're there, you
or no? Anyway, Hey, not happy, well not happy, but jeeps, creepers,
this is best to sand. What a disaster. I don't

(03:59):
want to spread fair around it, but jeeps, creepers, How
did that happen? And I hope it's one of those
stories where nothing bad comes from it, although it will
be a while before we realize. I think, so you've
got asbestos and your lungs. It takes years for that
to develop, but goog. So many goods coming now from overseas.
Are they tested? How does that work? And I want

(04:21):
to know if you've had experience with that sand. But
I think too if they're saying it's in your daycare,
you're just supposed to kind of clear out from the
room and get it prop you know, you're not even
supposed to clean it up. So I've seen conflicting messages.
I've seen some people saying drop the sand off here,
hearing other people say don't even touch it. But that's
become quite a big story. This was sand that was
available I think in Kmart. I don't fully know where.

(04:44):
I think it was Kmart, but just a budget product
from overseas. And I presume, knowing toddlers, that if it's
something like sand, I mean, it will find its way
into people's mouths and throats. So you've got a comment
to say about that, if you're involved in the early
child education system or anything about that, that would be
good to hear from you also tonight, as well as

(05:05):
your lotto story. What you thought of that drawer? Am
I been mean? Spirit? I just thought, boy, that's uneventful.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine
to detect. If you want to be a part of it,
you can text also, as I've said, the lot of
drawer and the sand, the magic sand. Yeah, you call
it magic. I think another word for it. Anyway, Marcus,

(05:29):
I got. I bought a twenty eight dollars tripled dip. Gosh,
I wish i'd got that. Couldn't believe it when I
got five numbers plus the power powerball. The odds are
two hundred thousand to one, the prize was one thousand
and seventy five. I won't buy a ticket again. Other
than the jackpot. The prizes are terrible. Well, the draws
not much jop either, Mate, there would have been huge

(05:51):
rasmetas if I had one. I can assure you that, Marcus.
Just as I was reading the news online, up pops,
Chris Hopkins and his fiance who he proposed to. My goodness,
she looks like jes Cinda. Don't you think he looked
at that picture? You never look at that. I don't

(06:11):
know what you're what the subtext you're implying there is,
but no, I didn't think. Can't let me have a
look at this picture.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
On it.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's just like someone I've worked with in radio. I'm
not quite sure who that is, Pettit's Marcus. Greetings and
good evening and welcome, Oh Marcus, how are you good? Thanks?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Pat?

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Asbestos friable or unfriable is the term. Friable means smashed
up and broken up in the air, and non friable
means like a sheet product. It's it's sitting there still

(06:52):
a harmless like that, but friable when you break it
up and it's in the air, it's very very dangerous.
Sand kid throwing sand around is what you would call
in the asbestos game.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Friable really.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Because it's in the air, books in the air, and
it becomes a the fiber has become released as that, right, Yeah,
it's not bound to the matrix.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Well exactly, yeah, so so a lot of you know,
James Hardy fiber cement boards old school days used to
be clad in houses and stuff, and that's sitting like that.
Still it's completely harmless. But as soon as you demo it.
This still happens in building renovation. Now you're you're making

(07:45):
it fry. But what's going into the air very hazardous?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Are you a are you an asbestos removal person?

Speaker 7 (07:56):
No?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
No, I'm in I'm in the building game.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Why would why would a sbestos be in that magic sand?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
I've got no idea. I cannot comprehend how the hell
I'm just picturing all my kids of six, they're all
way past kindergarten now though they've all played in sand pits.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
What kids do, right, Yeah, I think that I think
from my expert the sand sort of comes and swollen
and it's probably it's probably something that you play on
like a low table, and there's probably you've got different
cups and things and you molded and you're sort of yeah,
but I don't think it's outside sand.

Speaker 8 (08:31):
Big sand, yes, yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
A big track to tire or whatever, and the kids
all go and play in it and play with the
tractors and stuff. And that's stand in a drier day
is getting thrown all over.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I think the magic sand is more an indoor
thing that you use on a table and you you
sort of put into molds. It's got some sort of
magic properties. I think that you can sort of it's understood.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
So it's not in the sand pits.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, No, it's a it comes in a small like
a one litter bucket, and and it's sort of quite rubbery.
It's it's called magic sand because it's got properties that
that aren't unlike other things.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, I don't fully know. Someone might describe it to
me a bit better. So it's an indoll thing, but
even so, it's something you're playing with your hands and
then you're eating, and then you're doing stuff with it.
So look, there would be there'll be cause for concern.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
And so what the kindergartens have ordered the stuff off
Elie Barbara.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And regons it Kmart.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
Oh my gosh, you're not good.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
No, And and and also too because you can imagine
the you know, some of the correspondents I've heard it
can be you know, it can have gotten too wall
linings and stuff, so they be I'm sure there's going
to be. I don't know whether it's going to be
an overreaction or a reaction because we don't know, you
don't know who's been sick from it, but you know,
I imagine they'll go and do deep cleans of rooms
and remove all because you know, if you've got a

(09:55):
daycare and you're trying to attract members of the public
to go to your daycare and want it to be safe,
you know what parents of toddlers are like, they're pretty
cautious that where and probably rightly so.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
This will be like the cooking absolutely tearing out.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Absolutely, it's exactly what I thought of.

Speaker 11 (10:14):
It's not it's not good.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, I mean business is really like anyhow, pre I
think it is three two thousand. Now we have to
be on high alert for it's under linino, it's in walls,
it's an electrical it's it's in everything, and it's costs
a lot of money. If you're doing a renovation on
the home and it's got asbestos, it's it's a big time.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Hey, nice to talk to your pad anyway, see thing,
it's some more cool. So everyone else has got any
comments about the situation with the Rainbow Sand. People talk
about refunds. I think it's refunds. They've want four products
sell by Kmart, the fourteen piece sand Castle buildings set,
the blue, green and white and pick Magic sandsets is

(10:58):
a positive for tremolight, a form of a spesissa share
with high cancer risks at low exposure levels. So it
doesn't sound that article they talk about espestosis. They say
they're talking and he said as a form of cancer.
They say they're talking about higher cancer risks. But I'm
sure there's been pluming discussions on that over the weekend.
Pretty serious topic actually, But if you've got anything to

(11:19):
say about that or experiences, would that let us know
something that used to be sold at Brisco's Toy Worlds.
I don't think all magic sands are sands that have asbestos.
It's called kinetic sand. Speaking of asbestos, anyone still used
Johnson's talcum powder, I would imagine not. Marcus, You're a
right a lot of drawers boring. I don't buy a

(11:39):
ticket ha it for maybe ten years, I'd do stupid.
Marcus did a lot of years ago. Family spinning a wheeler.
I'm thinking of exom anoxims anoximus. I don't know what
that last word is. Looks like noxyms. Yeah, people did
say they used to be a spinning wheel, used to
be I think they need I mean, we's carry omegon.

(11:59):
It was good on it wasn't he. I just felt
the life got getting sucked for me. Before the drawer anyway,
someone said Marcus Sonya Gray has been three a lot
over twenty years. Well, I thought she's three free good.
I think she does of other documentaries too. Days she
not just she traveled back to the past and stuff.
I mean not days, she's a time traveler. But you
know what I'm saying. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

(12:20):
and nine two nine two detects you want to come through?
We are talking about kinetics and magic sand rainbow sand yep.
Also to the hype before IKEA continues, there's now two
pop up shores, one in christ Church one in Wellington
where people can look at the stuff. I'm just curious
though you might have traveled, ever, says if you brought

(12:40):
any of the stuff this kIPS from, is it any good?
Do you rate the product or do you think it's
hard to put together? And slightly say me sayy so
if you might want to mention that also tonight, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two detexts.
Be a part of it. You want to be a
part of the Hittle twelve. We are talking about magic sand, connetics,
and and asbestos in the worries for daycares. It's not

(13:01):
out in playgrounds and stuff. It's sort of it's we've
got a magic such kind of consistency. I think sometimes
it's solid and some of it three floats like it
cancel of be wet and solid, wet and free flowing
at the same time. I think that's maybe someone could
explain magic sand to me better. And for a while,
they're all the things for kids to a TecTile. They're

(13:23):
either those special sort of slimes that bubbled up allthough
they were their special sort of things like the sum
these magic sands. So oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty watched a bit of the All Blacks, watched the
second forty second thirty thought it was good. I didn't
realize there's two drop kicks on the first. I've always
liked the brick tailer Pepper the drop Kicks because you know,

(13:43):
there's something about New Zealand we think we we think
we're we think dropkicks are beneath us, but in the
sy we get beaten by teams are good at dropkicks.
So even though they're beneath us, winning is important, but
not that important. I think we'd rather lose than be
a team that rates dropkicks. It's been important. Lines three

(14:05):
twenty four past eight drew its Marcus.

Speaker 12 (14:07):
Welcome, Yeah, I'm Marcus. He just ring up about your
kinetic sand.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (14:18):
So kinetic sand is made with a silicon oil that
basically coats every particle in the sand.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
That makes sense, And so.

Speaker 12 (14:26):
What that does is bonds all the particles together inside
the stand and makes it either sort of flow, not
like sand, but more like a solid. So in terms
of the asbestos particles in it, there's actually probably an
incredibly low, low low risk of them being dangerous at
all in that product. And the reason for that is
is that abestos is only dangerous if you breathe it. Yeah,
so it's only dangerous if you breathe it and get

(14:48):
it into your lungs.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Now.

Speaker 12 (14:50):
Because of the kinetic sand actually has an oil that
bonds the particles together, it basically can't become airborne, so
you can't breathe it unless it completely dries out. And
the whole purpose of that silicon, that silicon material is
it doesn't dry out. So in terms of the risk
of the of the actual product itself, it's probably quite low.

(15:12):
But I mean it's still not a good thing to
happen and any children's product, and certainly doesn't meet any
other the specifications for a toy product.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Because the thing about the magic it does all sort
of stay contained. It's sort of it's sort of yeah,
you're right, It sort of all stays together, doesn't it.
It's not a it's not breaking free, yeah, clumps, it's
kind of visco elastic.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (15:35):
It essentially joins all the molecules together so that those
A speestos particles can never become airborne, so you can't
breathe them. And as pestov, I mean there's still thousands
of roofs and lino and products and houses well where
the board the Hardy's original Hardiest product from the eighties
are all made of A spestos and they're all perfectly

(15:56):
safe and perfectly harmless unless you actually cut it with
a saw and make it make dust in the air
that you breathe.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Just can't work out. I just can't work out why.
I can't look out why it would be in magic.

Speaker 12 (16:08):
Sand, because there's because there's product. I mean, there's a
spestos all over the world, right and they still use it.
It's still used. And like brake pads, a lot of
brake pads had a spestos in them. Anything where anything
where heat is being used. And so you've got kilns
to dry the sand out and kilns to so when

(16:29):
they when they're making the kinetic sound, it's quite important
that all the particles are all exactly the same size,
so they have to dry the sand out so it's
super dry, and those environments can quite easily belto. So
you think beestos clouding.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Inside them, and you think the some of the content
could be residual from the manufacturing of it. Makes sense,
doesn't it.

Speaker 12 (16:48):
It's highly likely that it's highly likely it's residual from
the manufacturing of it. But remember that that sand sand
is mind and so is the beestos. They both come
from the ground, so they're both they're both products you
mind for So it could be just naturally occurring.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
It could be incidental, couldn't it.

Speaker 12 (17:06):
It could absolutely be incidental, and I think because of
the because of the product that it's in. Certainly it's
certainly it's you wouldn't be allowed to sell it in
New zeald or you shouldn't be allowed to sell it
in New Zealand, and they're obviously stopping selling it now.
But I think the risk of it is incredibly low
of it being harmful to anybody.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I do wonder how they test products, because they certainly
can't test every product, But I don't know how it
happened when there's so many things coming in from overseas,
online and through retailers. It must be because you know,
when you get something, how do you know what to
test it for? Also, you can't test every product for everything.

Speaker 12 (17:41):
Testing testing for toys is unbelievably stringent, so just about
everything that goes into the toy market is heavily heavily
tested for for kids toys, but obviously you don't test
everything for a sestos and a lot of things there.
There was another thing a few years ago where wooden
products are coming in with lead based painting them in. Yeah,

(18:05):
so I mean they can't test for everything, but they
are incredibly strong. It takes a lot of time and
effort to get toys to market. But with a lot
of trade open China, it's much easier now to get
stuff and that isn't tested.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, what I'm saying is anything on Ali Barbara and
Shy Shane Sheen and uh and Timu that would just
be not tested at all.

Speaker 13 (18:29):
No.

Speaker 12 (18:29):
Absolutely, And so the burden, the burden man is on
the person selling it. So if you're importing that stuff
yourself and selling it as a product, say on trade
me or on marketplace, the burden of responsibility for that
being safest on you. So you've got to do the testing.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, but most people, most people now just buy it
straight from the manufacturer, don't they they're not an importer.
They keep the key with individuals buying it from China,
and they don't keep Yeah. Absolutely to worry. Nice to talk, Andrew.
I appreciate your clarity and the precisest you brought the
conversation tonight. Here it'll twelve. Be feel free to come
through the numbers. I'm enjoying this tremolight and it sounds

(19:07):
like a musical group, doesn't it. I shouldn't make light
of it, but tremolight, it sounds better than it is.
It's a form of asbestos. Tremolight. Hit'll twelve if you
want to be part of it. Keept those calls coming through. Yeah,
we don't like dropkicks, do we. We might talk about that.
We think it's an undignified way to win. I've been
going on for years, how we should kick more drop

(19:28):
kicks if we don't love it? Twenty nine away from nine.
A lot of people are texting through and saying yes,
but young kids eat sand though. Unfortunately, I think with
things like asbestos, from my understanding, it's not the eating
of it it's bad. It's the inhaling. It's when those
fibers get in your lung that they settle there and
they cause their spestosis years and years and years later.
The silent killer they call it, things like that. So

(19:49):
it's always very dramatic. Marcus. There is a trapping hut
and the cutting yeah, in Nashal Park called Asbestos Cottage.
It's an old asbestos mine. That's right. There's a famous
couple that lived there, those reclusess, weren't they. There's that
book about the couple from Asbestos Cottage, which I have
read but not visited. Marco. This is Marcus. Welcome and
good evening you.

Speaker 11 (20:10):
Hi there, Marcus, are you over to hear me?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yes, lell and clear? Was there a problem?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 (20:16):
I just did a bit of Google AI research and
says here that asbestos minerals are mainly composed of silicates
of magnesium, iron, sodium, and calcium, and they are actually
essential minerals required for good health. So I mean, if
you're selling pharmaceutical medications and there's something else that's beating you,

(20:39):
you're going to tell lies about it absolutely to sell
your pharmaceutical with drugs. I mean her resist all bullswooll
and mayhem, so pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't think you've quite I don't think you've quite
read the room with a discussion. Marco.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh, I'll believe it. We'll believe what you want to believe.

Speaker 14 (21:00):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, I'm not saying I'm believing anything. There is something
called techa mite. I think in these products trebo light
that deakeies are concerned about. He's saying they're wrong to
be concerned, brother.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
No.

Speaker 11 (21:14):
I just say that people they're own business tell spin
lies to protect their own interests. So they don't want
something healthy. And you know, it's like a witness sunt.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
This is a sand. It's not as you know, it's
not a food product, don't you.

Speaker 11 (21:32):
Yeah, well, I think someone overseas has done the recess
scenariosly trying to help people. But obviously pharmaceutical companies don't
want that happening, do they. This is not that they
want to sell their drugs and medication maka.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
This is not I think you've got to be topic creep.
This is not to do with pharmaceuticals. This is a
product for kids to play with. It's a it's a
product that's sold for its tactile ability to be both
like a solid and a liquid, to be kind of
wet and dry altogether.

Speaker 11 (21:58):
Yeah, and I think it's beneficial.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, no, it's not beneficial. And just because something is
made up of different pponents, that doesn't mean that that
can be a safe thing. Yeah, this is this is
this is its scientific formula for for asbestos, which is
c A two mg. Yeah, it's complicated, but but but
it doesn't mean that it has the properties of all

(22:23):
those individual things that make it up the colcy, whether
they agneesy or the silicon or the oxygen or the iron,
they're or bonded, they form a new molecule. So it
becomes quite a complicated thing.

Speaker 11 (22:36):
Yeah, yeah, such as life very complex, and.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
We've got a I to help our way through it. Unfortunately,
a I will tell you what you want to hear.

Speaker 11 (22:47):
Well, I don't. I don't believe anyone would be silly
enough to manufacture something and send it over to New Zealand,
like chemical warfare, to poison people. They'd be in big trouble.
And I think they were actually beneficial.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
They might never they might you know what it's like
in the in the search for profit, they might have
cut corners. They might have missed a step that removed
the trend light and they haven't done that because the
machine was broken or because they're trying to make more
money for their bosses or something. I mean, I think
it's quite it's quite easy to see how project products
can be contaminated. That's why we've got to be vigilant. Absolutely,

(23:22):
because you'd be vigilant. Absolutely, I'm vigilant. But the other thing,
anything like that lead paint and the space, it's all
terrifying for parents. Of course, you want your kids, do
you want your kids to get a fair chance.

Speaker 11 (23:37):
Yeah, lead's a different story, but.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Was led a different story?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh gosh, Well I.

Speaker 11 (23:44):
Used to pump, guess, and I breathe in the lead
fumes at the gas station. I get saw joints and things,
and obviously you know, lead poisoning things is you know,
it's been proven to be bad.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
They band lead petrol and suddenly of the crime waves
through New York and something they just dropped overnight. You know,
it was just unbelievable the behavior change after all of that.
But yeah, I'm hearing you. Nice to talk, Marco twenty
five to nine, twenty three to nine, Salmon's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (24:15):
Yeah, I own a number of Okay, me and my wife.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm not.

Speaker 15 (24:23):
Across here the information has come from or how it's
come about? Who did the testing like that?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
So your line's not clear. I think what you've said
is you and your wife own a number of childcare centers?
Is that correct?

Speaker 15 (24:39):
Yeah, me and my wife do.

Speaker 16 (24:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, And you've said that you're not sure. Are you
not sure about the information the testing? Is that what
you said?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
No?

Speaker 15 (24:46):
No, I was just wondering whether or not you had
heard anything about where where the testing had come from
or how it is how the testing had come about.
I'm not sure how came out of salt or say,
came out of sold this for a number of years
or whatever and solved this and come to fruition now

(25:07):
and not earlier, because most of these products are tested
before before they're solved put out the retail.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So I would have thought so, And maybe they can't
test everything. And look, I don't know the answer to that.
I presume it's a government department that's over work. But
that's that's an excuse me when it's products interface with children.

Speaker 15 (25:29):
Yeah, it's interesting just me personally because we deal with
the Ministry of Education and the Education Review Office obviously
all the time.

Speaker 17 (25:38):
And I can tell your sets.

Speaker 15 (25:41):
Ten when they come through your center, you know, they
they try and find any little thing they can, as
told two to make you correct it. So it's odd
that this has been sold for use and centers for years.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
And what what what?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
What I've got in front of me is independent testing
commissioned by the Faculty of Asbestost Management of Australia and
New Zealand identified four additional colored sand products sold by
Kmart who's in that tested positive for tremlight asbestos, So
I don't I don't know if there's asbestos is such
a worry there's It sounds to me like there's a
special department that just tests for that. But why you

(26:20):
think the test for you think the test for that
before it went to market.

Speaker 10 (26:24):
I'm not sure. That's just you.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Imagine, So wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (26:29):
Maybe, I don't know. I'm just wondering, and also wondering
it's made headlines in Australia because obviously the education sector
in Australia is actually very similar to here, and so.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I can have a google for asbestos magic scene Australia.

Speaker 15 (26:48):
Yeah, that's been because sometimes in Australia they're actually more vigorous.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I think they always are.

Speaker 15 (26:55):
Yeah, and we are here with certain things, and so
I thought.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Just from a quick Google, it says nearly seventy schools
to close in Australia over fears of asbestos and placeand yeah,
so a total of sixty nine schools and act will
be forced to close on Monday after colored playtend was recalled.
So it looks like they've taken it two more seriously
and they've closed schools.

Speaker 15 (27:20):
Yeah, really, really, it'd be interesting to see what comes
about this.

Speaker 17 (27:24):
Because.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Hopefully nothing comes from it. There's no consequence in the
sands remove That would be the dream scenario, wouldn't it.

Speaker 15 (27:31):
I would imagine I would imagine maybe going to be
having a dip into their pockets. But we'll find out.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Nice to talk. Thank you for that. Nineteen to nine.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Hello John, Yeah, I was going to mention the lot
of but just thinking about what you see that we
have the price end. You know, it's sort of damp
from that and as you see, that might put into
their mouth, but it doesn't go under their lungs. It
goes to their stomach and thru so it's a bit
different than you. It's what you breathe in the light

(28:01):
stuff like those in the lungs of course. But anyhow,
I just wanted to mention about the lotto. Now, as
far as I'm concerned, the lowder should be drawn. If
we do it, would we drawer? You know what I'm
saying is there's a Wednesday and a Saturday drawer. Now
why is that? Well, what's wrong with if somebody picks

(28:22):
up half a million or a million dollars? It is
ridiculous and it's and its and it's encouraging people to gamble,
and we're all not supposed to gamble. So I'm just
saying that if it was half a million or maybe
three quarters of a million twice a week, that's great.
That make people are lot happy in it, and it
wouldn't have influenced people to want to get into a

(28:44):
big drawer when it gets up to fifty five million.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
John, I think the reality of it with hype and
stuff like that, if it was just a million and
a half a million every week, people wouldn't buy the
tickets because that's a that's a fine amount, but it's
not enough to think cheapest creepers. That's gonna that's going
to change my life in the whole, whole neighborhoods. I think.
I think the big the Big Nights work on the hype.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, the thing that I'm saying is it's supposed to
be for the puffits from us. You know, I would say,
so what to that? I mean, you shouldn't you know,
somebody might be basically been a lot of money or
some of them, and they're in the thing every week.
When when that body gets really big, that when people
come into ne a len a ticket, Yeah, that's right,

(29:25):
And I mean they might be the one that strikes
the fifty one billion, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean,
I mean we shouldn't be encouraged a gamble. It's so
one of it's only a little bit each week, you know,
and that mightn't buy many Well, it's not the intention.
It shouldn't be that would encourage you to gamble.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
An Yeah, well, the whole I think the whole. I
think the whole point of lotto is it is gambling.
That's why they're try and do good with it, to
try and ease their conscience. But you know, I think
there's plenty of people out there. They're not all hooked
on Pokey's and the and the horse. I think there's
plenty of people hopped on scratches and Kinno. And you're
you're once a weeker.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, well, just I'll just drive me some rik, did I?

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
You know you got such a great voice, John, as
you don't stry into any of your dodgy topics. Should
be right to go.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Okay, I'm all in for checking out what the debt
is for all the different cities in New Zealand right now,
believe it or not, We've got our dead up in
Hamilton too, only a billion dollars. Do you know what
the deed is? A for up but it's fourteen billion dollars.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
What did Hamilton blow their money on?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
That cycle Bridge's still going on about there?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
You're still going on about that cycle bridge?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Now not the cycle what we've gone there was the
thing the card of the rim Center. Oh yeah, and
they maybe three billion a bill back. Now that's not
a place that's going all the week. All I'm saying
is this is borrowed money that the council gets bad enough.
When it's borrowed money, they're going to pay the money
back with interest. And that's going to be paid by

(31:02):
the rate player. That's the bottom trying it across.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Did bunt and get back on?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
What did Mark Bunting get back on?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Mark Bunting?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Wasn't he one of your counselors, the radio guy? Is
he still back on? Counsel in Hamilton?

Speaker 13 (31:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I know, I don't take any I mean I always
both because you're most I mean, in the time that
I lived in Hamilton, they built a place called the
It was a great little place, and they building and
was great and it was in the center of the town,

(31:37):
and the concerts came and stuff. Well, I went saw
years ago on the early sixty years wait and saw
that's SATs way there. You know Louis Strong. Yeah, but
but but it became his great play and they did
most of Buddy. So I thought, I when they're going
to start building buildings and that needs.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Keep in touch on Louis Armstrong. Eh first men on
the Moon and a sex offen the tw would have thought,
get in touch Hittle twelve, eight hundred and eighty Dight
fifteen to night. If you want to be a part
out of it, of course you can believe important product
could be caused by cutting corners or proper motive. It's
only ten years ago that Chinese milk was contaminated by
melamine to cut costs from proper protein fortification. I had

(32:20):
Chinese colleagues who begged me to give them safeties in
a milk soaurce in that region? Is there anyone and
using a milk product are popular? Marcus winning lotter was
the bonus to playing lotto. It's enjoy me out thinking
what you would do with the money. No one buys
a lot of ready thinking they will win. It's about
selling the dream. Paul, Well, Paul, that's not entirely all

(32:42):
of it. I don't think. I think this element of
gambling and gambling comes with the zone rewards, and I
think you can always justify explain what makes a gambler gamble.
They themselves probably don't know. It's called random reinforcement. It's
like when you get those pigeons at the university in
your stage one psychology and you reinforce them randomly just

(33:03):
a case. Every time they tap the button they get
randomly reinforce. I'll tell you what it makes a bond
and those pigeons and stuff for life they just see
the whole time fredically tipping. It's pretty powerful. Random reinforcement.
Thirteen to nine Living Away from Nine, Jonathan, this is Marcus.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Welcome, good evening, Marcus. I wonder if you or some
of your listeners can help me with this. As you
would know, for years now, TV one especially have been
squeezing credits as they call it, at the end of yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
You can't see it. They either drop them right down
or play them.

Speaker 9 (33:42):
Fast yeah yeah, at the end of programs. Who cares
you know, sometimes you don't really mind. But in the
past they played lovely programs like Victoria where you get
all the lovely script and the lovely music and then
you can't read them or hear them. But they've been
doing it for quite a while with the Chase.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
What's Victoria.

Speaker 9 (34:05):
About Queen Victoria drama series of the musica. Well, you've
got all the lovely costumes and the credits and the
beautiful music, and then you don't see them, we'll hear them. Well,
they've been doing that with the Chase for some years now.
It's made by a company Potato or something like that.
But at the end, you know, they squeeze all the

(34:25):
credits and right at the bottom left hand corner with
the little potato at the end, just you know, while
Bradley's sort of saying goodbye, and we all know why
they do it. It's to try and grab another minute
or two to squeeze some more advertising. And I'm not silly,
but tonight I happen to watch the Chase and blow

(34:47):
me down. All the credits were back on in full,
plus the little Potato logo on the couch with Bradley
saying Potato. You know, bossing the logo and I'm wondering.
I've got my own thoughts on it, but I'm wondering
why they did that.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
What are your own thoughts? Pardon, what are your own thoughts?

Speaker 9 (35:12):
Well, it could be one of two things. One they've
suddenly decided or found this evening their timing was slightly
out coming up to the news and they had another
minute to spare, so they let the credits run. Or
because they are now running the New Zealand version of
the Chase, It's possible they have had producers out from

(35:38):
England giving them advice and about how to do it
and what have you. The British production company may have
discovered what TV one are doing with their program and
have told them to stop.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Both so incredible. We'll discuss more. Jonathan, thank you saving
away from nine. I didn't are scared of what I
Donything was going to say, but didn't I don't think
Jonathan knew that. Of course I have mentioned this number
of times. The New Zealand Chase is not filmed in
New Zealand. They just went to Australia and used the
Australian kittin kaboodle. There's the Australian set in the Australian

(36:19):
Chases to film four episodes for New Zealand, and even
the contestants weren't using them. They were people that were
Kiwis that were living in Australia. So whether that means anything,
I don't know, but that's what happened. That's a situation
with the Chase in Australia, which is a New Zealand chase.
I'm not front of a problem with the credits. I'm

(36:43):
not a Chase watcher. Actually I used to be once
upon a time, but now I think now I don't
actually tune into the six Scott News. It's all kind
of become a bit fractured. Although I've kind of driven
around a lot. You'd come into town and stuff, and
you do see people on their giant TVs, and they
do see most of them before six do seem to
be tuned into the Chase. I guess the beauty of

(37:05):
the Chase is that it's a show that builds throughout
the hour, and the beauty for it for a TV
channel is its most exciting moments the five minutes before
the news. That people tune in five minutes earlier, it
means it gives TV and did TV one the great
advantage when it comes to the news program because I
got the great lead and with the chase must be

(37:27):
infuriating those people that try to get TV three up
and running. Who are they now? Stuff? And then something else,
because yes, you can't beat the Chase Hittle Midnight. If
you want to be involved the number, we're talking about
this asbestos sand, rainbow sand or magic sand. You've got
anything to say about that, that's good, that's good, and
tell get in touch. We haven't fully yet got the

(37:49):
information about why and how they found it that I
can see. You might have some more information about that.
There's even a voluntary recall, so yep, but a lot
of people very very well worried and not a great

(38:09):
look for Kmart either. And people are angry at Kmart
too for the lack of easy accessible information. So yeah,
they say stop using the product immediately, ensure the stands
is a sealed container. If you need advice on how
to do this, please conduct a license professional OHA eight

(38:30):
one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine. To
talk about this, we are talking about asbestos, and we
are talking about Lotto and the chase Now there might
be other topics you want to bang on about tonight,
and you are more than welcome. I encourage that, So
get involved, get in touch. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. Gosh, now run it straight. You know that

(38:52):
thing when you're run into each other, that's now arrived
in the United States. It's become a big thing, ye
now an American neuroscientists. Although all the hype and people
saying how bad it is, we'll just fuel it. So
now it's going to happen in America. Well mane of us,
Marcus Good Evening, feel free. It's a Monday free for
all topics your choice. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Kevin,

(39:12):
This is Marcus Good Evening. Hi, Kevin, as a Marcus
my mate.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Remember me, I was talking about the couple of years
ago about the Drome in the Drome and I said,
if you want it's a pizza?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Was it whereabouts? Was it in the South Bridge?

Speaker 16 (39:36):
Now?

Speaker 6 (39:36):
I was an orkard, remember, and I said, well if
they if they bring those drones, then they send them
out to get pizzas. Ma'm I shot them all down
and get them to the neighbors.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
No, I don't I actually don't recall that, but anyway,
I'm happy to hear from you again. You sound like
you're in a good place.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
I'm going a good place, madam. I'm just talking about Keno.

Speaker 16 (39:53):
Remember is it?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Is it still going?

Speaker 6 (39:57):
N Maybe this it was over in nineteen ninety nine
when I won the big one?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Or did your word?

Speaker 13 (40:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (40:04):
I want to I was thinking the last person I
went eighty two grand from four dollars. Wow, wow, he
made it? Oh you know I wasn't sure enough. But
we're not running, mate. I didn't know what to do, man,
So I am visited forty grand? You know how much
it is?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Now?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
No?

Speaker 6 (40:21):
Not why because the bloody of the flipping, the flipping
bank clothes bro so that someone was telling me I
had to go to the text man. And because I've
got a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Of holding money, Well, you bet should be able to
tell you how much money you've got, shouldn't they?

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Nah?

Speaker 18 (40:38):
The bank?

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Now did I did it with a country?

Speaker 7 (40:40):
Why?

Speaker 6 (40:41):
They closed down them and National National brought them out?
But no, that long gone, madey?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
So can you still get your money?

Speaker 16 (40:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (40:49):
I've got to go to the text man and he
reckons that they reckon, mate, there's a lot of money.
There's millions and dollars there for unclaimed investments.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
How much reckon you've got.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
I'd say over twenty five years, about one hundred and
eighty thousand.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Oh, don't you need it?

Speaker 6 (41:09):
I must if I did win that.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
You must be curious to know how much there is.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Well, it's been a while I've been trying to get
ACC claims as well. I just went to a doctor
today and they said, yeah, mate, we're going to send
the uh what does the miracles certificate to ACC's and
then I'll be able to get six digits. Brother, I'm
not kidding you.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You keep you keep in touch. Kevin David Marcus welcome.

Speaker 18 (41:36):
I'll get a Marcus as David the Brisbane Bronco supporter here.
Hi David, Hi, just briefly on the on the All
Black Siltto. I would hope that the All Blacks should
put fifty points on where I was this weekend saying
it's the last game of the year, and you know
I wounded All Black side. But who knows what I

(41:58):
would imagine.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
That I found all that talk about the Grand Slam arrogant.

Speaker 13 (42:04):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
You know how they kept going there? It should never
have been the focus on the Grand Slam.

Speaker 18 (42:11):
It's a big ass to go over there and win
four games year.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Well you know it's also yeah, anyway, I'm not happy
with that.

Speaker 18 (42:20):
There you go, just an interesting quack. Do you know
the next World Cup in twenty seven, that's the tenth
one in forty years since a dread the nineteen eighty
seven year, So tenth, that'll be the tenth.

Speaker 13 (42:38):
So I'm not sure.

Speaker 18 (42:39):
I think we won it three times.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
We won, and we won it back to back too,
which is surprising. We won the inaugural one then we
went back to back.

Speaker 18 (42:50):
Yeah, we've done a couple of times in two thousands
as well, I think. But anyway, yeah, so good luck
for the next one. We've got a couple of years
to sort things out.

Speaker 19 (43:01):
So yeah.

Speaker 18 (43:03):
And on the lotto, it's yeah, I don't buy them,
well I do sometimes, but yeah, you can really only imagine,
you know, to win because the odds are too greg.
I think they said there was one point five million
tickets sold, so you know, that's pretty big odds.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
What would be it would be the same odds as
what as what else?

Speaker 13 (43:28):
Well, I don't know. I just mean like there was
one point five million tickets sold.

Speaker 8 (43:32):
Yeah for that lost.

Speaker 13 (43:34):
It's normally only a million, I think, but it went
up a bit due to the big amount.

Speaker 18 (43:38):
But yeah, all the hype in it.

Speaker 13 (43:41):
But yeah, it's.

Speaker 18 (43:44):
Yeah, as they say, someone will win, but only due
to the massive tickets house.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
But good luck to them.

Speaker 18 (43:50):
I hope it makes them happy.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's another thing, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (43:55):
Yeah, Well, you know, would you rather?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Would you rather be unhappy and rich or poor in here?

Speaker 13 (44:02):
To be honest, I don't think i'd want eighteen million.
I think I think one would.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Be enough, would you?

Speaker 13 (44:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Would you come unstuck?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Probably?

Speaker 13 (44:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (44:16):
This you know it?

Speaker 13 (44:18):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 18 (44:20):
Yeah, I think that would be too much here. But
but yeah, that's all I really want to say, macas
you know, and yeah, good luck to the all Blacks.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Nice for you, David. Thank you were talking about magic
sand and rainbow sand and how they haven't how this
stuff's even available, But I guess they can't test everything
for everything. It may it was never in their realms
that they thought there would be asbestos in this. That's
a charitable response. But the info there's been for information,

(44:55):
someone says Marcus. The rainbow sound sounds worse than leprosy.
We seem unconcerned about kids growing up fixated on smartphone
screen like moths to a light bulb. I'm Marcus, kid
who's still going as I got a ticket tonight? Tania, Marcus,
just to put me in magic sand. If children in
jestice then surely would cause damage to lit these internal
organs regards Chris Well, No, there's no been what no

(45:18):
word on that? Mu Ziic contestants in the chase had
to pay their own way to Australia and accommodation.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I think they're advertising for people who were key as
they could live there or find their own way there. Marcus.
Can we get a conversation going about dog breeds and
the best natured ones tonight? Be a good topic. Americans
have their football helmets to run it straight. Marks have

(45:48):
often wondered about slime type products children make up kits
and nail polish, fake perfumes. Is this tested in the
past of their plant and Chinese toys Marcus that do
the same thing with task Master. The Australian contestants use
the task Master house in New Zealand and Marcus a

(46:08):
lot of parable is a roared. Every draw guarantees four million. However,
if not stuck at jackpot's to the next draw, the
higher the price goes, the more folks buying ticket. This
sure I have is the term jackpot and gambling terms.
The prize is the same price added to the original
lotto does not add four million to each draw, not struck.
They haphazardly add any figure, by the way, most for most, most,

(46:31):
most wins for me and wife. He was eight three four,
six months after I had started, and no big wins
to date. Marcus, are you going to Metallica?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I am not, although I would. I'd love to go,
but it's just not something I've been ad enough enough
to do. Marcus. Tell David the next Rugby World Cup
is eleventh, not the tenth. It's the eleven, is not
the tenth. David, thank you so talk about magic sand
and how how techy the lotto drawer looks these days.

(47:04):
I tuned in for the first tip of years. Jeepest, creepers,
where's the who with the where's the rasmetais? Nothing there? Oh,
I've read disappointed. Anyway, do get in touch, you want
to be part of the show. There's something I just
want to mention tonight too good. Also, I'll keep you
out data with news throughout the course of the evening.

(47:27):
Anything goes here till twelve eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
and any other topics of people have meat you for
you want to add stuff too good? I was asking
earlier about IIK. Have you brought the stuff overseas? Is
it any good or all of it? Say me?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Say me.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
You might want to mention that. He said, run it straight,
not going away. It's moved to America. This is the
one when two people run into each other surprise they
found a market. It's never something inspired me to go
online to watch it. But anything else you want to

(48:10):
mention it tonight too be good to hear from you.
Feel free to get in touch as I say, oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and seventeen past nine. By
the way, if you're looking for the time on this
fine Monday, but get in touch. You got to be
a part of it. This is thing different than you
want to mention it. As I say, you are more
than welcome to come on with other topics you might
want to talk about tonight.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
UMM.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Paul McCartney joins music industry protest against AI with a
silent track. Oh yep, and the Big three sort of
international story. That's what about New Zealand and the asbestos
send You might want to talk about that also tonight.
I'll be up for the discussion about that. Oh eight
hundred eighty eighty nine two nine two. You might be
affected by this, be good to hear from you. Catch

(48:58):
you soon here until twelve. Welk if you want to
partake twenty past nine, Lois, this is Marcus. Good evening, evening, Marcus.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
How are you good?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Things like, how are you going?

Speaker 17 (49:08):
All right?

Speaker 8 (49:10):
Yeah, yeah, you're talking of I just did today, just
tuned and so I haven't viewed any calls at all.
Are you talking Rugby?

Speaker 1 (49:18):
You're more than welcome, Lois.

Speaker 16 (49:20):
Oh good.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
What are they going to do with him?

Speaker 16 (49:24):
Now?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
How many? How many they? How many have they lost?

Speaker 6 (49:30):
About as many years of one?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
You'd think he's doing.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Us like that? And he said he's got next year?

Speaker 8 (49:39):
Is next year the World Cup?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Of the year after.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Ninety five? Twenty twenty five?

Speaker 6 (49:48):
I don't know, coming up soon, it's not far away.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I'll check for that. He seems beginning the hang of
it though, Lois what what hang of what coaching?

Speaker 8 (50:00):
No, he's no, he's his close. I'm telling you he's
walking down the same road twelve months ago.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
He'll be gone. He'll walk away, this joker, because he's
not strong enough to stay there. And as I told
him over a year ago.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
He's great provincial coaching. Yet he goes very well with
the Cree Traders. But he is not an international coach.

Speaker 11 (50:24):
Never will be.

Speaker 14 (50:25):
Never, never will be.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
He is not good enough. I told you all this,
I told you this is what would happen.

Speaker 8 (50:32):
And it's happening.

Speaker 17 (50:34):
There was a few injuries, right said he would.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
There was a few injuries. Hey, injuries.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
And what do you mean injuries?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
A lot of his players were there.

Speaker 14 (50:48):
Of course they went.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
Of course they went' no, I've expected to what we've
We've been here and I've been through this all before,
and I haven't changed my mind one little bit. And
you'll find that a lot of a lot more people
now will be agreeing with me that we're twelve months ago.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I couldn't have it. I kind of haven't heard people
beaying like they have in the past. I think people
have handled it well. You probably wouldn't take these same
words but I think they've handled it quite well.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
Oh god, where I think it's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
What do you want, lois, what do you want to
have happened?

Speaker 6 (51:29):
I want a decent coach there. I want somebody that
is an international.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
Coach and he is not one jap seeing and never
will be.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
That's what I want. I want a decent coach.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Who have you got in mind?

Speaker 8 (51:43):
I feel sorry for those boys. I feel sorry for
those boys, Getty getting beaten all the time. But you
know he's still hasn't taken. He needs to get the
word Darrel out of his both vocegulary. Darrett needs to go.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
He needed to go twelve months.

Speaker 8 (52:03):
You shouldn't have been there in the first place. Darrett
needs to go, and so does that. So does some
boat and bears. East Past is used by day. There
were all the chicks listens, it's used by day. You
used to be good used. But no, now no, I
go sticking to what I'm saying, and I reckon, I reckon,

(52:26):
I still reckon. I know it's near the end of
the season. It's not well for our seasons, but we're
coming in years overseas as rugby though I don't know
if they don't know the I don't know what they're doing.
But no, I'm just stand I wouldn't be going anywhere
with him.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Did you watch it? I know you hate him, but
did you watch it?

Speaker 6 (52:47):
I watched it, of course I watched it.

Speaker 14 (52:49):
Of course I watched it.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
What I always find interesting, Lois is the New Zealand
is the all Blacks. They always think that drop kicks
are beneath them, but the teams that beat them seems
to use dropkicks re effectively and seem to have won.

Speaker 14 (53:04):
Because it's not on we go ye a row.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah, we never do it.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Yeah, no, because we don't got the brain to do it.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Well.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
No, I think we think we're about I think we
think we I think we think we're better than that
and we can win through.

Speaker 20 (53:18):
Tries, that's right, but we don't do it.

Speaker 9 (53:23):
Well.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Last week a long was going on about how great
McKenzie was, but he didn't do the magic this time.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
No, well they no, Well he got knocked rounded the
week before, didn't they.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Yeah, he does.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Mckensie is better by Tar, who is George mckein's Gamian McKenzie.
He's a better mckeens.

Speaker 8 (53:49):
Than Vod and bart every day, any day, any day
he okay, so he had a bit of a enough
day the other day, one bit of an off day.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
The Barretts have off days.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
All the time, more often than not.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Two of them.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
Not so much.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
Jordy, No not, I'm not. I'm not getting at Georgie.
I'd kick Jordy where he is, but i'd.

Speaker 18 (54:09):
Get rid of the other two.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
What are things going to happen? Lois?

Speaker 8 (54:15):
I don't know we're going to get beat we We're
not going to win the World Cup, so I don't
even think we are.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Do you think he'll be in charge by the time
it's the World Cup, which is in two years time?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
No, No, he should.

Speaker 8 (54:28):
He should do the decent thing now and walk away.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
That's what he should do.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
And let who coaches? Are you saying that, Jamie Joseph.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
He was just about crying the other night on TV.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Wasn't he doing the dance?

Speaker 14 (54:46):
He died?

Speaker 6 (54:46):
I didn't see him doing her dance.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
No, he's a clown.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
I've told you this before.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You're quite happy he's lost.

Speaker 8 (54:57):
I am happy he's lost. I'm not happy for the
all branch, the players, but I'm happy for him that
he that he's lost. I want to see him gone.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You know that we're supporting England.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
Yeah, of course, of course be funny if whales coming
out and.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Give them a beauty, it'd be surprising. Okay, it'd be surprising,
mind you. The singing that's quite gives quite a good
atmosphere to it all, doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah, well it would be good, it would. It
would be good in my favor if they did. But
you know, because he's go good, it's I can't understand him.

Speaker 17 (55:43):
In my mind.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
We've been consistent, Lois. You haven't liked them from from
day one?

Speaker 8 (55:48):
No, no, I won't writing one day like he's glad
to day either. I'll be saying so long, it's been
good to know you.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Is this someone that you think should be the coach? Lois? No,
not no, not off hand, but do not have any
but Hama's basically what you're saying, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Not anyone? But then we need a good coach.

Speaker 8 (56:11):
We need someone who knows we need an international coach.
And he's not won and any will.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
Take the crusaders away from him. And what he's get
actually done nothing really, absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
It's a bit hard to say he's got no, because
how do you get international experience?

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Well by saying, you know, if you don't give me
the job, I'll go over seas. Well, they should have
said we'll go, and if we wouldn't have, I wouldn't
have this headache. Now that's what he said. They had
his mouth, you don't give me the job. If the coach,
I'm going to go overseas, we'll.

Speaker 17 (56:56):
Be on your bike.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
And who's quite sought after?

Speaker 6 (57:00):
Yeah, yeah, because everybody thought he was good, but he's
not good.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
He's not going.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
He knows he's not good. Don't worry about that.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
How can you tell that?

Speaker 6 (57:11):
Well you want to look on his face?

Speaker 14 (57:18):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
So I just thought i'd put in my six foot sweep.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Well, I think that's great, lowest and I think you're
true to form about that leads watch the space. But
I appreciate you coming through.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
This.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Lady is gold. She's actually correct in everything. She's the
oracle when it comes to rugby. But you know, I
think probably the theory is the more you coach a team,
the better you get. I think the select is everything.
I think that probably experience with that group counts for something.

(57:54):
With that's right. I don't know, and unfortunately the stakes
are kind of high. Well for us, we are because
we take it quite in England when the arrogance the
end of that blonde guy on the side of the scrumgy,
he was hard work. I mean he's they're getting cocky
again and a cock England's side is no fight of

(58:15):
fun to lose against. That's my take on it. And
they haven't got the bomb squad, They've got the pom squad.
What did you think of that? Hit'll twelve you want
to be part of it? My name is Marcus. Welcome.
The record in twenty twenty five is nine wins, three losses.
Last year was ten wins, four losses. I'll be taking
you right through tonight. Sound like a bus driver. Hittil

(58:37):
twelve o'clock. If you want to strap yourselves in, be
in touch, you want to be on air eight hundred
and eighty Romance along at midnight. Heavy rain is forecast overnight,
strong winds about Fiordland and Southland. It is homemade bread day.
Anyone's still making their own bread as you should. That's right,

(58:59):
Bread day. Only one inficious measles case in the country.
We should be happy with that. They saying you've got
the lid on that. And Ikea opens for December December
before Allison ats Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 21 (59:16):
And I will just switch to the netborn and say
how wonderful these two coaches are at the moment is
Ethan wy Tamanu and fantastic. And I also wanted to
think Roman. Overnight he was doing a commentary of the
network four o'clock Typinicitally, Marv was hearing all the scores
and everything. So and actually the next match, the third match,
is going to be on Wednesday, but if anyone wants

(59:38):
to watch the replay, it's on Sky Open at midday
on Thursday on Twitter twelveth mid.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Day the replay or the final the.

Speaker 21 (59:48):
Replay, Yeah, because it's on on Wednesday. Well, if you
have this again't got Sky you know what I mean?
Sky opens a freeze channelous.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Is it not live and free.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:00:02):
I don't think so. Well, will that be the Differencely,
it's on the afternoon over there, I think at six
thirty on the Wednesday afternoon and it's twelve o'clock on
Thursday and Sky open, So I'm not too sure about
the time difference there it might be live, I'm not
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
No, I think I think it would be like five
in the morning or eight in the morning if it
was five in the evening and the evening yeah morning.

Speaker 21 (01:00:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So just keep your right for your
right off. You could keep it off there for four
to four and watch it at twelve. Yeah, just telling
people that. But they'd been fantastic, these coaches that have
been filling in. Yeah, really good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Hard to do, isn't it. It's live on Sky Sport one. Yeah,
when is that? When is that match though?

Speaker 21 (01:00:44):
Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Top us seven, Thursday morning?

Speaker 21 (01:00:48):
Oh for Thursday morning?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:00:50):
Yeah, that's really right to believe it. We can commentary
over there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
We played midday on Sky Open. So you've got to
keep it quiet.

Speaker 21 (01:00:58):
Yeah, keep quiet for four hour that's right. Yeah, it's
very good getting the scores overnight there, very good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Appreciate that, Elison think you tweets ten lot of texts.
Marcus cannot stand the English rugby team arrogant and just
think they are God's gift to rugby. The Pollock chaps
are complete Numpty, celebrating by jumping on his mates when
the ABI dropped the ball and made a mistake. The
epitome of upper class arrogance. He's like a young Boris Johnson,
isn't he? Marcus? I believe a lot have guaranteed me

(01:01:33):
a winning ticket, because when I check at the machine
tells me not a winning ticket yet. Too much time
for nasty lowess. She never answers your questions. Just Vitriol
Rais was a good coach of me. The players haven't

(01:01:54):
had much test experience. I would have savea as captain.
Fancy cheering for England shameful, although people support what she
has to say. The lady is gold. She's actually correct
in everything. Maybe she ought to be the coach. Bowden

(01:02:19):
Barrel will win the next World Cup for New Zealand.
Let's hope so, Marcus. I am in a primary school
that has the sand. Many neurodiverse students love the sentry
aspect of it. We've all had to shift out of

(01:02:41):
our classes. They have been shut down, and asbesta success
will come around and test our classes. It will get
results later in the week. It's free, unsettling for everyone,
and you feel bad for the teacher for having it.
But who knew asbestos is so small? It goes through
vacuum cleaner filters, so it's possible clean as vacuum up

(01:03:02):
the magic stand at a nearby school, then went to
your work with their vacuum and only spread around your building.
That's the problem with asbestos. We are those pigeons tapping
our phones in the hope of a random reward. Marcus
Andrew Fagan tour way worth the money. I would believe
that would be true, Marcus. I see work Safe US

(01:03:26):
in as saying that colored sanders from China, Well, there's
no surprise there. I get really annoyed by those people
that always say that fifty five winners of one million
would be better than one of fifty five. People get
so socialistic when it comes to lotto, not with ever

(01:03:47):
anything else like spreading the wealth, but lotto. Yeah, here's
the information from work Safe Mahi ho Maru Altiraa. On
sixth November, work Safe was in wormed. The batchels of
colored sand used the education with these in Australia have
been found to contain two types of asbestos, tremor light

(01:04:10):
and crystallite. The standard as you imported from China and
can be using class our activities as well other decorative
and craft us at home we are where at. Some
of these products are available to range of us in
statree and hobby stores. Asbestos contamination of this product has
been confumed in Australia by advanced testing. However, this stage,

(01:04:31):
the full scale of this year is unknown why I
whether it's isolated or a recent instance of contamination or
a wider riching long term contamination event Until further notice.
Colored sand listed on MB's recoll page must be consumed
to contain asbestos. Then it just goes through all the

(01:04:54):
things you're supposed to do, which is pretty complicated.

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
So it seems like we're reing new to this and
there's not a huge amount of information. But that's from
Work Safe their website. Marcus, I've brought a lot of
I care on trade. We in love it, especially their
fabrics which I use as curtain wool hangings. It's transformed, transformed.
What was a depressing dungeon? Goodness? I reckon you say

(01:05:36):
it's confirmed what was a dungeon? Because imagine all dungeons
are depressing, aren't they?

Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Marcus, my name is Brownie. Back in the seventies, I
was involved in the survey in the Red Hills of
Fiordland where the US had identified as a mine for
this rare metal. And this was a using My involvement
was a young chainman using study art technology. We just
land on the moon and those guys took up a
huge bunch of presents to me the distance from Earth
to the moon. My inspirational boss got a hold of

(01:06:13):
this technology and put it to us in and we're
with helicopsies to about a huge area to minusbestos. A
highlight of my life. The American company was Kennericott and
they had discover an element called asbestos used at the
manufacture of paint. They wanted to mine the element. I
don't think you'd call it an element. It's a compound.
I think Marcus. I've made breed for thirty years, white brown,

(01:06:37):
for carture, hot cross, bunge, you name it. I have
a bread maker, but still make quite a lot by hand.
Marcus Noling Tuto Toto for All Blacks coach. Putting it
out there, Marcus, the All Blacks are going to peak,
are not going to peak until the World Cup. If

(01:06:57):
they show their game plan now, the competition will work out.
The Cup is the target. Keep the faith It's a
long gamble to make, isn't it. They've got to wait
four years to see if they've got the right stuff
or not. I think I'd rather follow Lois to the
Promised Land twenty one away from ten.

Speaker 16 (01:07:20):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
By the way, anyone got any stories of the hale
in Timodu that seemed to be pretty extraordinary? The hail
that happened on Saturday. I think there was both at
the races in christ Church and a Timido Mary Hill
got hit and Ken Toby also got a massive hal.
I think it was probably in fact Timo seems to
be the cars get damaged with big hail. They got

(01:07:41):
damaged a couple of years ago. There was a car
yard that all sorts of damage was done at, so
you might have experienced that, but only we're talking about
asbestos and magic sand or rainbow sand. They do all
in the article stressed that the that the danger is minimal,

(01:08:03):
but when it comes to kids and stuff that they
play with them, it shouldn't be there, should it. Marcus.
I've also brought a lot of Ikea I've traded me
but like a secondhand jigsa puzzle, there's always a piece
of missing. It's even more infuriating than assembling. Than assembling,
I care with my partner Ikia, didn't know there was
a lot available on on trade woneer. If people are

(01:08:25):
buying it overseas and then trying to that's kind of
the side hustle. You think that's what people are doing
or was it second hand? I've never really looked for
that stuff. I'm not really in the scandy furniture market.
But never say never. If you want to talk about that,
If there's something else you want to mention, so let
me just open the store. I'm sorry, but it's just
got extremely hot. Near to hold your horses. There's walking

(01:08:46):
walking walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking walking, open the door,
better already walking back walking, back walking, back walking, back walking,
back walking, back walking back seventeen away from ten. As
I say, if there is something different you want to
mention to, then feel free to come through about that. Also,

(01:09:12):
I don't fully understand the intricacies of the Uber case,
but if you're an Uber driver, I know a lot
of Uber drivers this at this type of night, you
might like to explain to me the ramifications of that.
I've heard people say that they're in a a lot
of back pay. I want to know what it also
means for those people that are the regular Uber drivers.

(01:09:36):
I presume it means you get more pay. But that
means then, of course I'll have to make the drives
the trips more expensive. I'm not saying that's a problem.
It's curious to have. That's what the result of that's
going to be, because I can't magic up money from nowhere,
so I'm kind of interested. How about that we have

(01:09:56):
Uber and in the cargo now we're five drivers. Now
there's eight. Doesn't sound like many, does it. Yes, there's
more work that the work's been spread around more. What
a nasty, vile woman. Why do you allow her to

(01:10:18):
be derogatory about our rugby coach? You actually sound like
you enjoy her tirade. Well, I think there needs to
be transparency. If people aren't happy with the coach, they
need to be able to force it. He's not the
Prime minister. People here this country passionate about rugby and
with their passion with rugby, and people are allowed to

(01:10:38):
express their opinions. It's called free speech. Look what happened
with John Hart. He was spat at it wasn't he
with his horse racehorse at the races. It's almost one
of our second passions is discussing the failing to our
all black coach. Yes, Lois is out spoken. Do I

(01:11:09):
enjoy her tirade? Well, she's passionate and you've got to
love passion. One thing that comes across well on the
radio is passion to the person who called the English
rugby team arrogant. You need to look to look close
to the home sunshine. Some dreamers calling or texting in

(01:11:31):
tonight Marcus. We clearly have the wrong coach who doesn't
seem to learn or change attacking or defensive tactics or plans.
He keeps the same old deadwood in his tree. So
many players who should have been as lineup missed out
and he keeps the same old faces. Jamie Joseph is
the man for the job. Come on, you end. We
need to change now before it's too late for Rugby

(01:11:54):
World Cup twenty six. Look, the Rugby World Cup is
twenty seven, is it not. Yeah, it's Rugby World Cup
twenty seven, But yeah, it feels like it's going to
be twenty six. It feels like it's not far away.
Fourteen to ten. Looking forward to your input by the way,
last Thursday was two years till the World Cup final,

(01:12:18):
so it starts in October October one. I think it's
not Australia obviously you'll know that by now. So yeah,
so last Thursday it will be two years to the final,
so just under two years till the final of that.
You know that now it's ten away from the other
thing that there might be some comments on this obsession
with the second tunnel in Mount Victoria and Wellington dearmark

(01:12:42):
for four million backs costs more than now, that's more
than those ferries with their terminals that they sank. So yeah,
what's more important getting people from the airport to Parliament?
Getting people from the north of the South end? I
thought probably with the inter I don't think would be
more important. But four million for this tunnel, Marcus, all blacks,

(01:13:03):
who cares? I'm looking forward to the all whites at
the World Cup next year. Lois on the colored sand again.
Steve Hanson and Foster must be laughing their heads off
in Japan. Razor as average always was, couldn't coach the
one hundred and twenties back in the era. We need
to know, Hi, Cam, it's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 16 (01:13:26):
Oh, good, good evening, mister Lush.

Speaker 13 (01:13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:13:30):
Look mate, it's so competitive at this top level, right
and as much as I don't like losing or watching
our team lose to the Mlush, outside of that's probably Australia,
I just think, yeah, we need to realize that we're

(01:13:55):
in a competitive environment these days.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I think a lot of the most vitriolic comment I
heard after the match was people talking about the amount
of money. What's that company called that brought into the
what are they called, silver yea that company that private
fund silver Lake. People are pretty angry about them having

(01:14:24):
brought part of the team as well, and now the
team's not worth as much. I think that they think
they'll be worth more as well. You might want to
talk about that too. People think you cam eight away
from ten o'clock, Steve, it's Marcus. Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 16 (01:14:41):
To Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:14:42):
Steve.

Speaker 17 (01:14:43):
Again, I don't know if you remember me. Last week
I called from sort of logistics. Was shifting a bit
of milk around.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Yes, the milkshifter, Yes, the milkshifter, that's what they call me.

Speaker 17 (01:14:56):
So we talked last week about the All Blacks and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
How they were going.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
I was just wondering if your opinion had changed after
the weekend on how Scott Robinson was going.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I've got to because it's up at four o'clock. And
then I got up to watch the movie at about
eight o'clock and the kids are watching in films. I said, like,
I need to watch the last forty minutes thirty and
I find it quite enjoyable. I didn't realize the English
had got two drop kicks. I love a drop kick.
I love the fact that they get drop kicks and
we refuse to do them, and it's it's bare for
me for years because we've lost matches and we'll go

(01:15:29):
we hate it. We think it's we think it's beneath us.

Speaker 17 (01:15:32):
It's a bit taboo.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Well we think, we think it's not the real waiter
in rugby. Yet we'd rather lose the noon to do
drop kicks.

Speaker 20 (01:15:41):
Yes, well, well it cost us on the weekend, didn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:15:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Were there many chances we could have? Well, I guess
I guess Dan.

Speaker 11 (01:15:48):
Carden probably not well, no, not on the weekend, probably
not to be fair.

Speaker 17 (01:15:53):
Hey, one more, one more thing about the weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Was it exciting to watch.

Speaker 17 (01:15:59):
The first half was pretty exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Okay, if there was a second mount victory of Tunnel,
there'll be more toots in both the old on the
new tunnel. I still think a lot of the dislike
of Scott Robertson is because he's not one of the
borish old rugby coaches like we've had in the past.

(01:16:23):
I think a lot of the I think a lot
of the animosity towards them is because he seems to
be a guy that enjoys himself, which people can't handle.
And I see that reflect a large number of texts.
I get that go on on about the dancing and
his hair and stuff like that. But it seems like
a nice guy, and the times I've been he seems
to be a very He's a guy that enjoys himself

(01:16:47):
for he easy to get on with, and I on
necessarily think that's a bad thing. Someone says, compare the
famous twenty fifteen all Black team to the team now.
There will be no one from the current team that
would want ahead of anyone in the twenty fifteen team.
Will they be too old now? Wouldn't they? No point
blame the coach. We just don't have the world class

(01:17:08):
players anymore. Oh boy, Yeah, it's good that England's come
back though, wasn't it, Because you know that means it's
going to be exciting World Cup final or tournament. I
think it's probably a good thing. Good evening all, and
welcome my names. Marcus obviously will be hit til twelve o'clock.
Obviously it's what I do Monday to Friday. We've started
talking about magic sand and that's been free good. Now

(01:17:32):
we are talking about the rugby, and yeah, I don't
know what people are feeling about the rugby. All I
can say is what I think. I thought to go
across to the Northern Hemisphere tour and talk about a
Grand Slam came across as arrogant. But I guess the
rugby writers are always looking for a new angle. And

(01:17:57):
also I've got to say that after I think the
times aren't good for us in New Zealand for Northern
Hemisphere tour because you don't get up at four to
watch it because you've got it on Sky. But these
days the first thing you do when you get up
is look at your phone and then you've got the results,
so then you watch it. You know the end, so
it's not exciting. So I think probably for me, rugby
in the middle of the night doesn't work because I

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know the results. It's not enjoyable to watch. But also
the one watch the one match I did watch, that
match against Ireland and Chicago was appalling to watch, and
I haven't felt drawn to watch the matches since then.
I'd go to bed. I thought if I got up
it before, i'd wake up the youngest boy and would
watch it. But I didn't wake up it for that's

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a miracle out the South, so I didn't end up
watching it. But when I watched the last I thought
it was enjoyable. I like the singing, although I don't
I think the swing low sweat Cherriot, there's questions and
I think that's a slave song, which I think means
which yeah, maybe that's where shouldn't get into that. Tonight, Jim,
it's Marcus Good evening.

Speaker 17 (01:19:02):
Hey, Marcus show you tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Good, thank you, Jim.

Speaker 13 (01:19:06):
Good.

Speaker 17 (01:19:08):
I'm out ubering.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Yeah, sure, as a contract or, as an employee.

Speaker 17 (01:19:15):
As a contractor, what an absolute crop?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Really?

Speaker 17 (01:19:19):
How can those of course it is. I mean it's
a contract. You've signed a contract, So I don't know
how these guys have the ball to actually challenge Uber.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Well they won. They won. The Supreme Court upheld them,
didn't they?

Speaker 17 (01:19:36):
Yeah, but they I mean, how can they do that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Marcus, I'm not I'm not That's not my thing. I'm
not that close to it. I'm just curious to know
how it affects Uber and what it affects Uber sustainability
in this country.

Speaker 17 (01:19:52):
Well, I think I think Uber will. They'll just right
over the top of them. I mean, they're not gonna
walk away. Well, they may walk away if it got
too hard, But.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Surely if if these people, if these people are employees,
is rather than contract as, they would need to earn
more like holiday pay and fees like that. Therefore the
price of ubers would go up. Is that Is that
a reasonable assumption?

Speaker 17 (01:20:14):
Yeah, of course it is, And that's unlikely to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
I would have thought because it would because it would
stop that some increase, but because would affect their market
dominance up against Texas. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 17 (01:20:30):
I would think so, yes, yes, so I think they
will fight it. I mean the business model that they
have for all intense purposes, I think it's pretty damn good. Actually,
I mean, you couldn't do it on your own. It
would just be impossible.

Speaker 10 (01:20:49):
And people have the choice.

Speaker 17 (01:20:50):
You're either run with it or you don't. And no
one's holding a gun to your head to say you've
got to drive. So I really can't understand why it
was brought about. There's got to be something by find
it for these four guys. Someone's driving it. I think

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unions probably. Yeah, it's a good I think it's a
good business model.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
Are you and are you?

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Are you remunerated fairly? I think, say, I mean, you
know what it is, but you're retired, aren't you.

Speaker 17 (01:21:31):
I'm retired, yes, But you can still make good money though, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I think you can.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
You make bring up a family, buy a house money.

Speaker 17 (01:21:42):
If you worked smartly. I think you probably could actually,
you know, I mean I don't work that hard, and
you know I've had fifteen hundred dollars a week without
and certainly not working more than forty hours. Well okay,
and yeah you can work. You can work up for

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seventy hours and you know, I think my average is
probably around thirty dollars an hour. So that's over two
thousand dollars a week. That's in your hand.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Thirty times forty thirty times forty is twelve hundred.

Speaker 17 (01:22:20):
No, I said, you can work up to seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Okay, so you're if you're exiting two thousand okay.

Speaker 17 (01:22:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's if you wanted to work that much.
And as I said, I don't put that much evident
into it. So when I see people saying they only
earning ten dollars an hour, well, you know, they're just
not doing it right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
But it's pretty, it's pretty. Is there a is there
a way to do it right and do it wrong?
I thought the algorithm just gave you the jobs? What
what is doing it right?

Speaker 10 (01:22:49):
Is it going?

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Is it knowing?

Speaker 16 (01:22:50):
When I.

Speaker 17 (01:22:54):
When I drive down around Orphans here and I see
thirty ubers all parked up in the same place, all
outside the car, yabbering with each other, The hell are
they going to get a ride doing that? You know
it's never going to happen, And I can drive past

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and I can get a ride one hundred meters up
the road.

Speaker 16 (01:23:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:23:19):
I just think.

Speaker 17 (01:23:21):
Maybe people are got lazy or not not using their
head enough to get out and and some regionalbly good money.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
You could you could become a you could become an
uber teacher, an uber coach.

Speaker 17 (01:23:37):
No, thanks, mate, my days are doing that. Well over
where do you where do you?

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Where do you plant yourself?

Speaker 17 (01:23:46):
That's a trade secret. I can't say. They're on national radio.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
I think we plant yourself with one hundred bits ahead
of all the others. I think. But yeah, I'm taking
your point. Is it much data? Can you go back
and is the data available to look at where the
most number of uber pick up at? What time? Do
you get access to that information?

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
Yep?

Speaker 17 (01:24:11):
So I'm looking at the app right now and it
has a thing on there called chants which tells you
what's happening where, And we're so right on the Aukland CBD.
It's saying it's extremely busy for the next two hours.
North is average busy this hour and then extremely busy
for the next two hours after that. It's all historical.

Speaker 10 (01:24:34):
Data, so so.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
That's that's they say it's going to be busy in
the North Shore for the next two hours. That's because
historically on every Monday it has been busy at that time.

Speaker 20 (01:24:44):
Is that right?

Speaker 17 (01:24:46):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
That's interesting, okay, but why would it be busy on
the North Shore at eleven o'clock on a Monday night.

Speaker 17 (01:24:55):
God, it's card knows I'm not going over there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
No, I wouldn't know. Is it the squash clubs are
finished or something?

Speaker 6 (01:25:02):
Unless there Yeah, okay.

Speaker 17 (01:25:05):
Well unless I get to ride here. So anyway, that's
all I rang to say, and I agree wholeheartedly with
you about the run.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Nice to talk, Jim, Thanks very much for that good evening. Grant,
this is Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 14 (01:25:19):
Yeah, a long time, no talk. Margarets.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Hello, nice to hear from your grant.

Speaker 14 (01:25:23):
Okay, yeah, the All Blacks coach, I mean personally, I
don't care about his breakdancing or anything like that. I
just care about his coaching ability. And as it was anyway,
when he actually took over his All Blacks coach, he
said that he would only break dance once during his
All Black coaching career, and that would be if the

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All Blacks win the Ball Cups, which they could well do.
But to my mind, tactics are the prop The thing
that I have a problem with. The main thing is
kicking too much in general play. Okay, if you're in

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the twin two hard on defense, sure kick it out.
But when you kick the ball, even if it's a
contesting contestable chackers the term they use, you've only basically
got a fifty chance of getting the ball back, whereas
if you run the ball in the backs, keep the
ball in hand, if you get tackled, set up a

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ruck and then run it again. And he's obviously responsible
for overall tactics. So I mean, although he has a
forwards coach and a backs coach, if he was not
happy with the amount of kicking the backs to I
assume he would tell the backs coach, I don't want
you to kick the ball so much, And we're going

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to have a new backs coach seeing the current one
is not applying for his new contract. But if Scott
Robinson doesn't change that tactic, then we can have the
best attacking backs coach in the world. If he tells
them I want you to kick the ball, you know

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we've still got that problem. To my mind, that's the
biggest problem.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Did the English team and their victory did they kick
a lot?

Speaker 14 (01:27:17):
Not as much as we did?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Yeah, okay they kicked. They kicked as much, but they
were better they kicked less.

Speaker 14 (01:27:24):
No, they kicked less, but when they did kick, they
were better kicks. But like I said too, I think
they've got a good one. I think the English have
got a very good balance between running and kicking. They
used to be very boring up the last.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Terrible with old Wilkinson. Remember all that when there was
endless kicks and long kicks it took forever.

Speaker 14 (01:27:52):
Yeah, yeah, and now they've got the balance right. They've
got a good set of banks and you know they
run them. They seem to run. They run the ball
when they should run and only kick when when they
need to and then much they're much better caxt but
I think that certainly that new assistant X coach is

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crucial and I think a change of technics is required
also overall from Scott Robertson. Obviously he's trying his hardest,
but they've had he's had two years. They still seem
to be as inconsistent. However, when I would keep him

(01:28:37):
on and for the next World Cup, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
So keep them, just change the tactics. Yeah, makes sense
to me. Grant, Thank you very much for that. We
are talking the all nex and why not at eighteen
past ten with little twelve Romance from twelve good evening
Casper it's Marcus made a good kesper.

Speaker 19 (01:29:01):
Yeah, how you bringing up about the rugby, mate, So
it's quite simple. We got beaten fear and Square and
the All Blacks or the New Zealand Rugby Union. We
don't have the cattle and the team. There are no
one in there with the X factor. That's quite simple.
So Scott Robinson, if he's still there, has got two

(01:29:23):
years to get this team right. And in the meantime
i'd be ringing Richie McCaw Dan Carter and to even
get them fits in case, because I don't think we're
winning the World Cup either, mate. We just don't. We
haven't got that X factor in that team, I'm afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
But doesn't what happens in the interim years and the
next year we'll find a couple of Greenhorns will be tremendous.

Speaker 19 (01:29:50):
I'm not too sure about that, either of you. I'm
not too sure. And just remember if they do ring
Richie McCaw or Dean Carter, they've only got to play
forty minutes.

Speaker 11 (01:30:03):
And the other thing is, I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Don't think I don't think they're bringing mccorr and catterback.
I don't think that's on the plan.

Speaker 19 (01:30:09):
No, it's wanted to toy. It's something to think about that.
The thing is, mate, that's the thing. John. We asked,
suppose you can't tell me. Why doesn't he let McKenzie start?
Why does he think he's an impact player? Why bring
Dannie McKenzie on was twenty five minutes to go and
ask him to be superman because I think in some.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Of the UDI images this year McKenzie was found wanting, well, I'll.

Speaker 10 (01:30:36):
Tell you what.

Speaker 19 (01:30:37):
I've got to agree with Blowers. Both the rics should go.
It's my take on it. He's got to do something drastically.
I don't think it's Scott himself. A coach can only
teach so much, and they actually teach better techniques. They
don't actually coach the player themselves. I've got all the

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ability to players. They just teach them different techniques and
help improve the techniques.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Are they out passion?

Speaker 19 (01:31:07):
I think so? I think so and Lois I'm one
hundred percent with her.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
As far as we're not winning.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
The World Cup, will it be a South Africa England
final or the French of every good? Aren't they?

Speaker 21 (01:31:21):
No?

Speaker 19 (01:31:22):
No, no, no, it's there's only one team minute. I've
already started becking them on the New Zealand tab and
I'm getting three fifty at the moment. It's called South Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
You're feeding all right, becking them? You sleep straight at night?

Speaker 19 (01:31:39):
Yes, I certainly do. Yes, I cenally do. I can't
see any other team beating them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
And you know, you disgraceful cass for you becking them.

Speaker 19 (01:31:51):
May well, hey, I'm trying to beck the winner and
you're bles aren't looking like a winner at the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
How much are they paying this two years out?

Speaker 19 (01:32:01):
Okay, So South Africa are the favorites now at three
dollars and you're Blacks are three fifty and they will drift,
they will drift.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
What's francis?

Speaker 19 (01:32:11):
Oh no, I didn't. I didn't even look. I didn't
even look. I don't go that far. And the thing is,
years and years ago, the All Blacks would never lose
to one of the six nation teams. Well, the thing
is for me, mate, is we don't have the cattle.
There is no X factor players in this team.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Okay, nice to hear from you, Kasper, Karen ats Marcus, good.

Speaker 11 (01:32:38):
Evening, how are you.

Speaker 14 (01:32:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:32:43):
Yeah, I've been making bread for years. I have a
bread maker at home. I have actually stopped using it
because I can make it better than the breadmaker, it's right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
And the bread maker is a funny shaped loafer that's
always got the mixer stuck into the bottom of it.

Speaker 16 (01:33:03):
That's right.

Speaker 22 (01:33:03):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah. I've been making bread for by
hand for quite a while now, and there are some
secrets that people need to know if they want to
make a good loaf of bread. The water has to
be the right temperature. If you're needing it and your
mixture goes cold, then you can forget about a good

(01:33:23):
rising bread. So I found that the temperature has to
be just below where your fingers burned, but not burning
your fingers.

Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
And if you keep your.

Speaker 22 (01:33:36):
Dough warm, and then I put it in the hot
water cupboards for half an hour because my hot water
cupboards nice and warm. Then I get a good rise
on the loaf. I take it out, beat it down again,
put it in the bread pans, put it back in
the hot water cupboard for another hour, and I get
a brilliant rise.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
On the loaf.

Speaker 22 (01:33:57):
It's a weight and a whole meal lof half white,
half whole meal. The recipe comes from Pinterest. Oh yeah,
it's a Jenny can cook. So if anyone's looking for
a good bread recipe, I have altered it slightly because
their whole meal and white is not equal, so I

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do half half. And the other actual secret to getting
a good loaf of bread is actually adding gluten flour.
They salad in Woolworth. It's a three hundred grand bag.
It's called fresh Life, and I add about one to two.
If I do a white whole meal, I add about

(01:34:40):
two tablespoons to the loaf. That actually strengthens the flour.
That's what makes the bread rise. If your flower is
too weak, like if you use standard flower, it's not
going to rise. They need high grade. I use the
Edmund's White and Edmund's whole meal, and I get a
good rise out of it. But the flour has to

(01:35:01):
be strong enough for it to actually work. And so
I use the active yeast Edmund's active yeast, and I
get a really nice tasting loaf of bread. Because everyone
at church when I do morning tea loves my bread.
Everyone we have morning tea at church on Sunday, and
when it's my turn to do morning tea and I

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do bread, everybody loves my bread. It's the first thing
that goes on the table is my homemade set bread sandwiches.
So yeah, so it's actually really really good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
And also I think the major problem with I think
the maids can I talk yep. I think the major
problem with bread, homemade bread is how much of it
you eat.

Speaker 22 (01:35:44):
Well, yes, yes, that's right. And some people they can't
stop eating.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Its delicious. It's delicious, and that's a hard that that
takes great discipline to not eat it.

Speaker 16 (01:35:55):
I don't do that.

Speaker 22 (01:35:56):
I wait for twelve hours before I eat it, because.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
You're giving it away at church, which is really churchy
of you.

Speaker 22 (01:36:03):
Yes, yes, but you have to let the bread prove.
If you take it out and it's doughee, you can't
eat it properly because it's not digestible. So you have
to wait at least twelve hours to let the bread
prove so that it's actual bread. Otherwise you're just eating dough.
So I take it out and I just leave it
on the rack, let it call. Then I wrap it

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in a tea towel, put it in a plastic bag
and leave it for the next morning.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
I'll leave it there. Caraman, thanks very much for that.
Keep in if you want to keep in touch, if
you want to talk a lot of good texts were
talking about the rugby and magic sand and bread, which
got a good response. About bread, I find bread very
easy to make. We make a lot of bread, but
it's always delicious, and once in a while we'll use
the bread make it. Maybe the bread bake is good
for mixing it day if you're doing bagels or something

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a bit different. But yes, am big on the old bread.
We've always got sort of different starts going as well,
which is good forget the name of all of them anyway,
Hetel twelve hold your horses will be with you really soon.
We'll also talk about the rugby and if you've got

(01:37:13):
any great take on that, let us know.

Speaker 13 (01:37:16):
Eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Hello, Richie, it's Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
Good evening, Yeah, good Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:37:21):
It's quite refreshing a bit as a baking chat. There
for a change rugby chat, but I've always meant to
be a bit more baking and just a bit more
time at work. But going back to rugby, I would
switch all the way back around. Sometimes we sort of
as a nation maybe just take a step back and

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take a deep breath and realize that there's a lot
of other nations that are getting better, and that's what
everyone has asked them to do. Is it just that
we're getting worse for is everyone else getting better? Years
ago it was maybe one or two that would really
have a chance to the World Cup, and by the
time we get to the next World Cup, it's maybe

(01:38:02):
five or so that could realistically have a good shot it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Yeah, I find it quite exciting how the Northern and hemisphere.
You know, the Northern hemisphere is so strong, you know
that seems like both hemispheres are really competitive. I think
it's good that we've gone up there and tested at
each game. I think that's been even with Scotland, that's
been exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:38:23):
Absolutely, And secondly, it's just the greatest version a few games. Obviously,
it doesn't mean all of a sudden he's a bad coach.
He's won everything that he's touched in his career or
just all of a sudden, It doesn't mean he's a
bad coach. He knows what he's doing. He's got some

(01:38:44):
good personnel in there. And as you hear quite a lot,
you'll hear people say, oh, I don't even know the players,
don't even know the players names anymore. What that tells
me is there's a bit of youth coming through and
you have to you have to start fresh or leave
it sometimes, which the experience I do feel.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
With all the substitutions and stuff, and it feels like
you're watching about four games and one that doesn't seem
to be the consistency. As a viewer. There's times that
it goes your way and at times year I am
I'm just getting used to the modern game and how
to watch it.

Speaker 20 (01:39:15):
Yeah, yeah, it is a struggle. It's a bit different too.
I used to go to the Manchester parkment years ago
and yeah, the excitement. Yes, it's a whole different game
these days, and the referee just sort of that's a
whole different story. They need to take a bit of
a step back as well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Are you a Cantabrian. I am, yes, and you're still there.

Speaker 16 (01:39:39):
Not quite.

Speaker 20 (01:39:39):
I'm on the other side of I'm on the wrist
coast these days.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Okay. You don't know what people have been saying about
the results over the weekend.

Speaker 20 (01:39:46):
I sort of fifty fifty. I've got many angry family
in Canabrillan. Some people realistic about it. Some people are
saying it's well, will put more money on celebrity for
the next World Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
They're loyal to raise around't they in Canterbury.

Speaker 20 (01:40:06):
Yes, No, there's something that have now you'd be surprised.
I've turned it on the wiibit, which is I can
sort of see it from the point of view, but
you don't automatically just become a bad coach all of
a sudden.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Nice to hear from me, Richie. Thank you for that,
well said Barbara Good evening.

Speaker 6 (01:40:24):
Good evening.

Speaker 9 (01:40:25):
Three words, Savia should be the captain.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Well, brilliant, Okay, appreciate that. Thank you, Petty, it's Marcus
good Evening.

Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
I got more than three words.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
It was five.

Speaker 7 (01:40:43):
Now, I like you, were sitting there and I heard
Racer come on and absolutely was devastated about not winning
this championship, you know, and he couldn't get through it,
all past it. And I'm wondering, and I'm thinking of

(01:41:06):
them as sow it's not quite right. I think this
coach lost sight of the game he was playing that day,
and I'm wondering what his pregame talk would have been
to his men before they went out, We're playing this

(01:41:27):
very important game, blah blah blah. Or did he say
to them, know your role in the team because all
I have to do is know their role in the
team and they'll win the game. And most good coaches
would tell you exactly that.

Speaker 13 (01:41:43):
And I.

Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
Was thinking, what's he on about? You know, you know
there's some gutted guys in there because we've lost the
clean sweep, you know, instead of instead of maybe he
just concentrated on that. I have to say, I'm not
a razor person. I think he's argued with a few guys.

(01:42:09):
There's a few good coaches around. I mean, the guy
from McDonald, the guy from the booth, and somebody else
got that go just recently, so there's a bit of
friction there. So yeah, I don't know. I haven't heard
a lot, and I they they isn't it funny how

(01:42:32):
England looks like we're playing and we look like England playing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
I also think it can't be underestimated how arrogant and
how fierce and the English are at home with a
twicken in the one place they play, all those people singing.
I think it's probably the hardest stadium to play and win,
because the English, they invented the game and they're arrogant
with it, and they've also got that attitude about the
You know, I think they'd be very hard to go

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there and be victorious. It would be huge pressure on
you and they'd get under your skin.

Speaker 7 (01:43:05):
But we looked as we had no game plan, and
you know what, in two years time, if we don't
have a better game plan, we're not even going to
get to the semi. We have to up our game.
We have to have that game plan. Someone should be
working on that, and that's got to be the coach.
How am I going to get to the World Cup?
How am I going to win it? Because we can?

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Is there a sense that we've won so often? We
won and then we went a while without winning it,
then we won it twice. Do you think people are
over win? Do you think we still care about winning it?

Speaker 7 (01:43:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:43:37):
We want.

Speaker 7 (01:43:38):
I don't know whether they're doing rugby, we do in
league and we do a netball.

Speaker 16 (01:43:43):
We want to win.

Speaker 7 (01:43:45):
Yeah, we want to win. We want to win.

Speaker 16 (01:43:46):
I want them to win.

Speaker 7 (01:43:48):
I don't want second.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Yeah, Okay, I just good enough, good enough. I just
enjoy an exciting World Cup when you don't know who's
going to win.

Speaker 7 (01:44:00):
Yeah, I know, but I still want the All Blacks
to win it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Okay, yeah enough?

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Good on?

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
You, Patty, thank you twenty three to ten eleven, and
I'll be in touch if you want to talk. Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. I think Kess, but put
us a bit crooked with the odds, the tab odds.
So they're going to win. This is for the Rugby
World Cup twenty twenty seven, so they've got paying three dollars.
France the second favorite at five, New Zealand also at five,

(01:44:27):
England at Sex, Island at seven dollars, Australia at nine dollars.
So that's where it goes. They are the top one, two, three,
four five, those five can win it. There's seven or
and Sex with Australia. I mean their Australia took a
good tournament team. Argentina is twenty six packs, Scotland forty one,
Wales forty one, FIGI fifty one. So South Africa, France,

(01:44:50):
New Zealand, England and Ireland are the wins and Australia
is there the next one. They're at nine dollars, quite
good odds for them, and then the easy beats the
rest are there in the picture. It's a situation there.
It's not next year, it's the year after can't wait,
but get in touch. You want to talk hit or

(01:45:11):
twelve o'clock, the numbers, Oh, eight hundred and eighty to
thirty nine to nine to the text, you want to
be a part of it. Anything else you want to
talk about, We're here for you. If I say, oh,
eight hundred eighty to ten eighty and nine to nine
to the text, I get in touch. And also your
reaction to the match. I watched about thirty minutes, thirty
to forty minutes of it, some of it, but yes,

(01:45:33):
says I say. When you wake up in the morning,
you see the score and you do get on your
phone because it becomes a bit boring to watch. Then
you're kind of the effectiveness of it's gone. Hello Steven,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:45:45):
How's the game mate?

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Good Stephen him just.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
On the rugby shit, I quite like that last all
about another game and that are going.

Speaker 16 (01:45:56):
So just slick.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
See how these little box until we keep on doing.
You want to notice in the Thursday ten minutes of
the game in the weekend, Kellam was signing touch. The
balls were going out and they were going along, they
were going out and we're winning the lighteouts. They ticky
for a line, and then they went back to those
little box kirks side ground that call how there's no

(01:46:17):
game plan and something needs to change in their All
Blacks big time. I reckon, because for me personally, I
don't care too much about winning the World Cup. I
reckon it's all these games in between where the All
Blacks have grown their names. You know, that's what the
All Blacks.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Are They me too, Yeah, I prefer that we actually
did better between the World Cups.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Yeah, because if someone wins a World Cup, they still hey,
well New Zealand's still the best team in the world
something like that, because we win all these games. So
I think losing all these games, we're just losing that
All Black or that we sort of have all growing
up and stuff. So yeah, something bad is going on
there and we need to I don't know how to
fix it, but surely some rugby brains out and they

(01:47:01):
do Raiser the thing, because I will big fan and
foss fuzzy. But when raised it came on. But you
look at the groupsaders over a stack team for years,
they'd like thirteen fourteen orbits in there. I think any
coach could kind of take him to the championship really,
So yeah, I don't know. Something needs to change. That's

(01:47:24):
just my two cents mate.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Yeah, I like what you've said there. Something's got to change.
I don't know. I don't quite know how that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
I think it's an attitude of belief thing you watched
in England coming up off the line every single time,
and then you watch them on attack. We'll sit back
and wait for them. They run at us, we do
a tackle, we've got the ball at hand, they need
us halfway and make a tackle. So we're just not
We're just not fighting for it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
That's shit to watch, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
That's the thing is. It's not a great spectacle either.
And it wasn't a close go to the end because
you knew were twenty minutes ago who had won. Well
that's our you knew within twenty minutes from the final
who had won. I mean it was unda say that
we knew we weren't going to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Yeah, yeah, the first twenty minutes where we were like, yeah,
this is this is our game.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Yeah, okay, nice to talk Stephen, Thank you. Sixteen to
twelve eleven text if you can text like your life
depends on it. Hamish McKay said it all on news
Talk ZB two weeks ago. There's a huge division between
the Canterbury group and the rest of the team. He said,
wait till the tour is over? Why are we waiting
till the tour is over? And what's his connections? Boy's

(01:48:45):
curious about People have these great statements about what's happening
to the team, but yeah, there we go. We never
find out either. There's ever good books written about what's
on the inside of these things. And I read quite
a lot of the press about the rugbyople I always
find it slightly sort of it's slightly sort of un

(01:49:06):
satisfying to read because I don't really come up with
any great points. The team's losing, they say there's grave
problems of the team's winning. They say, oh, well, it's superb,
but I don't really take an overall picture, which I
don't think. Someone said the lack of hurt from quite
a few players post the match, with retelling and perhaps

(01:49:28):
perhaps cuts to what's wrong. Losing to England at Twickenham
is the worst of all possible results for an All Black,
and yet there was smiles at the end. It's something
that Sky comments person Taylor picked up on Marcus. Why
do you always avoid there must be the word the
topic of Ardie's the captain of the Aubis I've got.
I don't really care who's the captain. I think Ardi

(01:49:50):
would be a fine captain. I just don't think the
captain makes that much of a difference. Aby's have a
long way to go, first to come back to being
equal thereabouts where the outcome is hard to see in
the game, and then been on top with runaway scores
against South Africa and England that may never happen again
like the old days. So much discussion is just waste
on this basis. I wonder if fitness is an issue.

(01:50:13):
Our second half performance had been less than average, yet
that used to be when we picked up intensey and
left the other team in our dust. There is a
lack of leadership of the team at the level we
have ever had before. There seems to be a disclipt
between both the coach and the rest of the coaching
management team, and also within the team. How many people
need to leave to recognize this kicking is their only
tactic now there is no good running rugby and playing

(01:50:34):
one is in front of you. I don't think he
is the right coach for the team, but he'll be
gone once we lose this World Cup. Well, Graham Henry
wasn't They gave him another go were the players he
coached at Canterbury A goat could have been the coach
to win. He had been exposed. Good evening, Marcus. The
Scotch should have beaten us. They could have put the
fares up them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
It did me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
That's why New England could take us, and they did.
I always listened to the touring game over the air waves.
Their coaches need to make some serious changes, Marcus. I
make beer. Bread's a small bottle of beer, three cups
self raising flower grays to tasty cheese prehead up and
one to sixty degrees. Two hours rest for tours, Frank Marcus.
The players on a new and young players. Give the players,

(01:51:18):
give them a break. Folks, cheers, Joan. I'm a Crusaders fan,
but knew Razor was the wrong man. So many Foster
hat us out there, and he was one. He was
one terrible refereeing decision away from winning the World Championship.
Raiser has not improved the team at all, and two
assistants have quit. Not one of my mates agreed with

(01:51:40):
me and thought Razor was amazing. That to Nathan very
honest text there Nathan, too many subber coaches, other hangers
on Razor overwhelmed. Hasn't the money to override them. Not
a Ted who would have just ignored some of his advisors.
Wrong Captain two, not a leader. Team would die for
good individual players, not a team. Bowden seems lost, aimless
and jaded. Marcus saw a huge fireball while walking the dog,

(01:52:04):
came and low from southwest and appeared to head down
towards all considered? Did anyone see it too, Marcus? When
we didn't get to the quarterfinals World Cup, Marshall and
others had been having fun in the spar pool and
now some All Blacks went and played golf before the
England game. Perhaps let's play more practice. Brilliant, get in

(01:52:25):
touch if you want to nine away from eleven head
on midnight five to eleven. Hello, Matthew, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:52:35):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
Much as I reckon Stir Robinson a brilliant coach, I
highly respect him me. He's way better than our other
coach we had.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Are you happy with the three losses this year.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
Yeah, well he's only a new coach. Okay, And all
those other people that don't know about Scott Robinson, I
actually know he is actually an awesome coach. Look what
it did with the Carsiders. He brought him Holmes eleven times.
So I reckon, I actually highly respect Robina.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
Appreciate you coming through Matthew. I want a text about that. Also,
people Crusaders weren't really stacked under Raiser. Blackadder couldn't win
a Super Rugby title. I believe Blackader had a better
team with the likes of Carter. The Abs are missing
x fact from the backline, partially in first five. Looking
forward to Richie Manger coming back. I also wonder if
the declining numbers in rugby are starting to affect our

(01:53:30):
stock of talent. Firebill probably the Leonid's Metea shower as
it peaks tonight. Debster. By the way, we've got the
schedule for next year, and next year there will be
a twenty twenty six Nations Championship fixture. So there's six

(01:53:53):
teams in the Northern Hemisphere. There's six teams in the
Southern Hemisphere, which is the Sansar nations plus Fiji in Japan.
We go to the northern hemisphere and play France, Italy
and Ireland. No, the Southern series, they come down here
and play France, Italy and Ireland come down here and
play US. Then we go north and play Scotland, Wales

(01:54:14):
and England. So you go to your other hemisphere and
play you play everyone. It's quite a complicated You play everyone,
then you play yourselves. No, you don't do that. You
play everyone, and then you go north and play half
of them. Yet another complicated kind of a schedule. That's

(01:54:36):
the way it works. The Nation's Championship, held every two
years outside World Cup and Lions to US, features twelve nations,
six of the North six and the South. Northern teams
travel SI from South and July for three cross pool matches.
Southern teams travel North in November for the remaining rounds.

(01:54:57):
But I presume you play all the teams. You also
play your own teams. I think I imagine you will.
So our schedule for next year is I don't know, actually,
so I presume it's still our local competition. That's why
it's going to work anyway. The All Blecks will begin

(01:55:19):
the new national Champion Nations Champion twenty by hosting France
and len Ireland, launching a seventy match seis that includes
thirteen tests across five months. The twelve team tournament will
bring together six nations sides of SANSA Nations, Japan and Fiji,
and across format Hemisphere format held every two years. After
the July home Tests, the All Becks will head North
and Novema to play Scotland, Wales and England before the

(01:55:41):
finals at London's Twickenham for November twenty seven, twenty ninth
kickoff times so the home Test will be released later.
By the end of twenty twenty sixth, the All Belecks
will have faced eight Nations, including four tests against the
spring Box and four matches against South Africa URC teams
as part of rugby's greatest rivalry tour to the Republic.

(01:56:02):
A Blederslow Cup series against Australia is scheduled for October. Also,
we don't play Australia in South Africa is part of
that Twelve Nations Championship. Maybe we just play three from
the other side. Anyway, that's the way it's all going
to happen. And I'm back for the next hour if
you want to talk here till midnight. Someone says the

(01:56:22):
team needs more crusaders in they're chief clearly Chiefs, Blues,
Hurricanes and to lesser accept Highlanders are incapable of playing
the intelligent rugby that coach Robertson is trying to instill
in this team. Welcome, good evening, Marcus. My partner and
I are twenty three years old, are currently moving house.
I week nights at the PUBLICY weeks weekdays, so it's
the only time we have available. It's so exhausting. Any

(01:56:45):
tips on easy Move. We love listening to your show.
It's calming and comforting. I don't know how you'd move
a house in an easy but I think it's always difficult. Marcus.
Couldn't be where saw losers. Marcus. Imagine if a specially
design computer program read the text to reduce the workload.
But you can interrupt and commedy any time. All blacks

(01:57:05):
not the same anymore. The assistants quit ras, you should
stick to the breakdancing. Well, of course, the breakdancing was
his job. It's probably something he did four or five times.
But do you want to judge him for that? Because
people continually do, which is kind of weird to me.
But that's something a comment about New Zealand sports following public.

(01:57:27):
They'll forgive a lot of things, but not breakdancing, which
is weird, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:57:32):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Do you think the things that people do, I'll never
forgive Pete. It's Marcus good evening, Marcus good thing to Pete.

Speaker 10 (01:57:42):
Yeah, you're hear the old dads only.

Speaker 13 (01:57:44):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:57:46):
When it comes to the rugby playoffs, now it's time
for someone them to move on. Basically, I think some
people will sort of see it good. He's going to
get over his favoritism of the players that were in
the Canary team. It stands out like the other day
when Damie mckenzy actually won that game Scotland put his

(01:58:08):
body on the line, and then the poor bugger he
goes out, uh this on on Saturday and he's back
in the on the reserves. A bit of a carmel
comes and goes around. You know, Damien should have been
the first fifteen. So I reckon that backfire and on
Robinson by putting Damien in the on the reserve bench.

(01:58:30):
And he's a good player, and personally reckon he's Papa,
then Bowden Boden soon as he sees a giant comes
towards and your pass ball not the worry.

Speaker 18 (01:58:39):
I watched it.

Speaker 10 (01:58:39):
I called Damien. He's not skied, he's little, but he's tough.
You know, he's the sort of guy he want in
the drench, and I reckon Savia he wants to still
be the captain. He's a better captain. That's got thet
sorry to say to that factural and it proves when
Savi's a captain, they.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Win pretty straightforward Internet pet did.

Speaker 13 (01:59:00):
You watch it? But did you?

Speaker 10 (01:59:03):
I meant to the crowded house even you put on
watching the bricks see it and uh it was good.
But I thought, well for English they who else smarter
than that? At the end of the day, we don't
actually have by or.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
D.

Speaker 10 (01:59:18):
They're not consistent kickers. English they always had good kickers always.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Did you go to Did you go to crowded house
at four in the morning or at eight in the morning?

Speaker 10 (01:59:30):
No, that was nice to the kick off was just
to have to play match.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Did anyone tell you the results you were watching it.

Speaker 10 (01:59:38):
To make sure?

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
No, No, you haven't known nothing, but no one, no
one at.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
The crowded house that I've watched this earlier. We lose.

Speaker 10 (01:59:47):
No, no, no, no, everybody's got more.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Think that's speakful, isn't it, Because yeah, okay, that's good
because crewdit house wouldn't be open at four in the morning,
would it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
I'm not too sure.

Speaker 18 (02:00:00):
I might have been.

Speaker 10 (02:00:00):
I don't think so. I think I think they have
the costumesch to have those those live met just now
on these screens they charged and like the pubs are struggling.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
I happened to be there earlier this year. We're at
Woman and I slipped away to watch the Warriors match.
I didn't mind it at the at the crowded house.
It seemed to be quite a good operation they run there.
I thought, yeah, it was. It's like it's a good
sports bar, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (02:00:23):
No, I shouldn't say it's the best one, and you
sing it right now to be honest.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Break good, breakfast breakfast twenty seven?

Speaker 10 (02:00:33):
Yeah, not bad.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
Would you get black pudding in there?

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
Not that?

Speaker 10 (02:00:37):
No, it bring us starry mat so.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
Sausages, beans, potatoes, eggs, bacon.

Speaker 10 (02:00:44):
You have a choice of bright eggs or scrambled eggs.
But I shouldn't say it that should have gone by
the way, the old fake things.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Ay, you'd be scrambled, would you?

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
I love a scream Yeah, just scrambled. Yeah, scrambled with
the Escubo pie. I'll tell you what I'm getting. Good
vibe with you, Pete, nice to talk. Thank you might
be your subjects Rugby. I enjoyed the singing swing and
what else they sing? They sang Hey Jude? They sang
another song? Did they sing?

Speaker 11 (02:01:19):
Linger?

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
Know?

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
What else did they sing?

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
There was one song? I thought it was unlikely. What
songs did they sing at Caras At Twickenham? I saw
my mate Joe was there from traitors. Joe Marler? Is
that his name? There's a song they sang which was

(02:01:42):
quite unlikely, the Swingow sweet Chair. But there's something else
they sing someone might know anyway, Dave Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (02:01:55):
Because did he win that TV program the Rugby prior Sella.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
The No, he didn't win, but he but but he
was the only one. So there was a lot of people.
There was nineteen people, and some of them were people
like Stephen Frye, who's a sort of a supposed intellectual.
But Joe Marler was the only one that made any
sense through the whole show, any.

Speaker 13 (02:02:20):
Sense is helping out or I did watch a few
pro shows because he.

Speaker 1 (02:02:26):
Thought, because you've got three people murdering people and you've
got no idea because everyone says they're not murdering people,
so it's but he decided there would be. He decided
that the producers of the show would have chosen two

(02:02:47):
of the big He caught it the big dog theor
is it either Stephen Frye or Jonathan Ross would be
the head of the traitors or the head of the faithfuls.
And his theory was completely right, and he stuck with it.
And suddenly now he's got podcasts and all sorts of
things because people have decided he's a genius. And it

(02:03:08):
was very very good in't it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
It's worth watching to the end, Dave, I thought it
was quite It's huge in England now, I mean it's
it's it's become you know, everyone on at Charlotte Church
and Catpower, all these people are you know, their stars
are rocketing on the basis of celebrity traders. It's become,
you know, it's become a real phenomenon over there. I
think it's the BBC's biggest show, this show, this year

(02:03:32):
or maybe even ever.

Speaker 13 (02:03:35):
Oh well, thanks for the recommendation. Now with the drop kicks,
it's worth three points and I think the all wax
is wise to mix things up a little bit. Not
we are not be too predictable and I'm all for
a raiser. Look, we haven't won over a dozen Super
Rugby titles without him. He's been good for Canterbury Rugby absolutely.

(02:03:58):
Now baking bread, haven't they never had much much joy.
We'd break it with the mixer in the bottom of
the bin, you know, and would come out. You sort
of have to eat it while I was hot, while
it was warm with butter. And if you left it
the next day and go like a brick. If you
break break bones and.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Your bread and that it's not good enough for it,
is it? It's like.

Speaker 19 (02:04:22):
It's the chain daw.

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 13 (02:04:25):
And even the birds wouldn't eat it the next day.
So I don't know where we're going wrong there. You
got a bread maker, yeah, breadmaker that mixed it up
in the bottom.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
In the bottom.

Speaker 13 (02:04:38):
But as I say, we never had much joy if
you didn't eat in the first sort of twelve hours
and you couldn't even you know, you break teeth on it.
Almost if you left it too long, the birds wouldn't
need it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
I've always I've always quite liked raising what what I
what upsets me the most is that most of the
criticism is just because of the way he looks, all
because he breaks, which I think is that's just people
hating people hating him because the jealous of his coaching ability.
I can't. I think people have always, from the very beginning,
have head in for editing for them.

Speaker 13 (02:05:09):
And Canterbury winning again. We of course love to see
him breakdowns at the end of the season another season,
bring it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:18):
On, But I don't know.

Speaker 13 (02:05:21):
It's either that or you get rid of the line outs,
get rid of the the times and play rugby league.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, you're fair enough. Good on
your Dave, Thank you getting to getting get in touch
if you want to talk about rugby or anything else tonight.
Or magic sand, rainbow sand, which has caused all sorts
of problems. Nothing magic about it or rainbow about it.
By the looks of things, this seems that we're going
to be impossible to understand this. This Southern Hemisphere, Northern

(02:05:53):
Hemisphere rugby match, so we don't we just play we
play Ireland, Italy and France and and so we play
no one from us for our own half, which just
seems weird. And then then the Northern Hemisphere we go.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
We play.

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Scotland, Wales and England. But there we go. So the
whole competition doesn't involve us playing any of the Southern
Hemisphere teams. But there'd be a theory around. They don't
know why they've organized it like that. I can't make
sense of just looking at it now, makes no rhyme
nor reason. I thought we were at LEAs played on
our people in our own group at least once. Marcus, i'

(02:06:34):
mcan tebrin. I think Razors should go. There's something going
on behind the scenes with both Jason Holland leaving and
Leo McDonald having gone earlier on in the piece. Maybe
a clash of personal He's my mother always said, never
trusted Mett. Oh yeah, that's yeah. Iran in Foster's but
recently and he was treated badly by the CEO. Wrong
selection in the back. Severa Reese should be there, along

(02:06:55):
with David Hevey and Leicester fan new Goop Artie should
be the captain preferred to watch the league anyway, it's
faster and more a skillful game. The Kiwi team was
festic and it's recent, fantastic and it's recent games. Yeah,
so there we go. It's Valerie, Marcus, the call of peat,

(02:07:19):
you said, Raiser favors candary players and as examples, McKensy
been on the bench because of Boden. Barrett Boden isn't
a Canterbury player. Thank you for that, Marcus. Everyone loves
it when the All Backs win, deserved or not, and
everyone's the next bit when we lose. I was too
tired to wake up for the live games and miss it.
I'm my coach, but giving the ball away makes no
sense to me, and a team that appears to give
up seems to be an obvious and basic problem, Marcus.

(02:07:42):
Typical South Island sicker Faut that last caller. No one
likes raised with the North Island because we hate the Crusaders.
Plus Raiser has no international experience and as clueless as
a coach. Ross from Hamilton, which would be the beaten
Super Rugby finalist, wasn't it. I think that's pretty much
what they're on about.

Speaker 10 (02:08:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
Esh In London has emailed Hi, Marcus, thanks it always
for your talkback show. Sorry for the long email. I
didn't watch the game but listen to the first twenty
minutes while doing some chores. Never thought i'd be emailing
and about the rugby. Football is more my game, but
I found your arrogance comment about English rugby interesting. I
only say this because over the last couple of years,
I've seen the same sentiment through and at the All

(02:08:31):
Blacks by the English, not rugby players more than rugby
watching public, especially commenters on metroports on websites like the BBC.
I used to put it down to the English inherent
dislike of teams that would always win or fair, whether
it's football Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Germany or cricket. The Aussies
are India. Again, I do not profess to be an

(02:08:53):
expert on rugby. I found interesting parallel the English football
team and the All Blacks, although the nineteen sixty six
Football World Cup is probably where the parallels end, as
the Abs have been more successful for stained period of time,
and more recently, the English football team over the last
five or seven years or so have been traditionally viewed
as a real good team with an over expectant, sometimes
unrealistic view of winning any tournament they enter, whether the

(02:09:17):
WC or the Euros, and the team was picked based
on big name recognition think Beckham and others from twenty
years ago rather than performance. True the entry of a
German coach who has picked the team based on performance
and merit, and they have qualified for next year's Football
World Cup without losing a game or conceding a goal,

(02:09:37):
something virtually unheard of. Mind you, the true test will
be at tournament level. Again, two years should be more
than enough time to turn the all Backs performance around.
Then again, what do I know, I just one of
the box are viewed as arrogant despite being a winning
machine of sorts. Surely it's possible to win and be
fared without being arrogant about it, just interested in. The

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black Caps have managed to become a very good team
and win and be viewed as serious competition without being disliked.
Just ask any English cricket fan that you made some
extremely good points ash you never hear anything bad about
the cricket team. And that might just be all I
was gonna say. That might be the nature of the game.
But it's not the nature of the game. Because the
Aussies are loathed by everyone, aren't they. There has been

(02:10:20):
bad sports and arrogant and cheats, well literary ore cheats,
aren't they? With the sandpaper twenty three past eleven? Oh gosh,
I'm enjoying your wisdom. This might be a favorite thing
people bickering about Raiser as they call him bread makers
once it has been sure of bake and active used
to think they both work. If you've ever get a

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chance to make bagel, is there a phenomenal thing to
make because you boil the dough? Mark Robertson should have
left years ago. At least Foster still would have been
the coach. By the way, I think we don't really
know what happens. I mean, Scott Robinson is an employee
of the rugby union, head of a manager to answer
to an aboard, so you know, maybe what he has

(02:11:05):
implemented is what management wants them to do. I don't
know how much autonomy you have in this modern game,
because you've got silver Lake in there as well. I
was going to say it's like the broadcasting example that
as US hosts under a manager. Although I'll tell you
what that the certainly from my level, we have.

Speaker 16 (02:11:24):
We have.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
Now I'm saying this is a good thing. We have
no interference from management. But I would imagine rugby it's different. Now,
Why am I thinking it would be different than radio?
Let me have a think about that, because radio is
all about performance, It's all on ratings, whereas rugby is
all on wins and attendances. So I guess if you

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go on there and and when when when they leave
you alone? I don't Actually that's probably as soon as
I got involved in that metaf I'm not sure where
that ends up. He's maybe be terrified of any thing.
Start to me what to do anyway, get in touch
with you want to talk about Scott Robertson, all about
this magic sand or anything else for the end of it, people,
if you want to be in touch eight hundred and
eighty ten eight. You've done very well with calls tonight,
but we've got about half an hour to finish, so

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you might have some more stuff to say, and that
would be delightful. Marcus, any chance should be able to
play a little bit of on Top of the World
by the Cavettis. I've got a very interesting story about
the Top of the World by the Carvetis. I think,
what's the history of that song? Could someone tell me
the history of that? Have they got a new Zli
in connection? I'll just be a fact check that because

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I always thought that there was a user in connection
to that song. But I wondered, now that is apopricle.

Speaker 10 (02:12:43):
Maybe it is.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
I had a different version of that where that song
had come from, and now I can't find the answer
to that straight away. Anyway, do get in touch. You
want to be evolved for the end of the show.
Is there something different you want to talk about? They
always said the song was inspired by a poem written
by a teacher from Tuitarpari, but I don't know if
they it's true. AIS bought that up and I've seen

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that that's quoted here. Southam's best known poem was written
by to a Tarpei teacher, Dorothy Sheriff, possibly inspired by
the Fiord and sky On. Her poem was sent to
Richard and Karen Carpenter, who turned it into the nineteen
seventy two number one hit. She was paid two hundred
dollars for the poem, But I don't know if that

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is true. Certainly not on the Wikipedia page for on
Top of the World, and you think that's where that
would end up. But maybe they just didn't say that
because don't want to pay her money for it. It
does say in early nineteen seventy three, YEWSI and singer
Steve Allen took his version to Number one News Island
for a week, sharing the top with the Carpenter's version,

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But there's nothing on the Wikipedia page to say it
was based on a poem from New Zealand. And you
think that they would have put that in Wikipedia if
that was true. So yes, I'd put that in the
mythbusted thing I think for that and or certainly not proven.
But no, I won't be playing it tonight because we've
really played music in essets and this there is a

(02:14:15):
and this there is a great occasion for it, Marcus.
We're getting out skilled and manifescets of the game. When
was the last time you saw an all black take it.
I've gone on forever about a dropkick. That's my whole
thing for forty years. I ould have gone about this.
And I'll tell you something. You see it at rugby
and you know our kids play for bluff, but you
know so I'm involved in the junior grades of rugby.

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But there's something and the rugby clubs of New Zealand
that considers drop kicks unmanly and they're never done and
if you get a penalty, if you get a space
out the front, it's much more manly to kick for

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the for the sideline and try when a line out
and then have a pushover scrum. I think we look
at the English, were there ponchanp for dropkicks has been
cowardly and unmanly and it comes back to bite us
time and time again. The last person that got at
dropkicks was Dan Carter, and I think it's one matches

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with them. We never do it. Never half of that
time Zinzen did one. So yeah, I've often got a
often got a problem with that. But yes, that's right.
We never ever, ever ever ever value it or do it,
and it comes back to bite us time and time again.

(02:15:41):
But I think it's strange anyway, Oh, just send to
our dunes on the Graham Norton Show. Thanks for the
perce that text me about that. You know, I reread
this text, Marcus. We're getting out schooled in manifests of
the game. When was the last time we saw all
take a drop kick during the game. You may see

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it if we are two points down with five minutes
to play. The English gave us a lesson in the
value of dropkicks exactly, so you might want to mention that.
And that would be it and the song Top of
the World. And why don't we ever do dropkicks? Is
it because once upon a time our fields were too muddy?
Is it the ball was too heavy? I don't know

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what it is. No one's ever explained it to me.
And even on these big TV shows like the one
with the Mills way there and with gold and they
never talk about dropkicks, never mentioned it. Is like it's forbidden.
But I think we'd rather lose than win with dropkicks.
I feel reef firmly about that. Anyway, I'm raving for

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