December 1, 2024 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Drink Up Guys/Bans Absolutely Definitely Work/Christmas Cards Are Dead/Auckland FC Embarassingly Good/Kids Love a Bit of Subtext
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
weekend edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glean Heart
and we are looking back at Sunday and at Saturday,
which is when weekends usually happen, looking back at Australia's
social media? Then can it possibly work? Should we do it? Here?
All that stuff? Remember Christmas cards? Need still getting any
(00:46):
Christmas cards? Aucland FC just keeps going from strength to
strength to strength. And Moana too. It turns out he's
quite a New Zealand connection there before any of that.
Labor's head its big hue over the weekend, and here's
the hue leader tell us all about it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Mark's out of ten for this conference? What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Look?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I mean it's the first conference after an election. We're
not the government and you know we've still got a
lot of work to do, so maybe somewhere between the
seven and an eight out of ten? I reckon, What
was the.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Biggest thing to come out of this weekend for you?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I think the sense of you know, of energy amongst
our party members who are absolutely determined that we're going
to give this government a real run for their money
and we're going to we're going to make them a
one term government and back to you know, we're in
it to win it in the next election.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I guess these events are more about the party, aren't they.
Is there something that you would want to resonate with
the average voter.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I think the key message out of our conference for
people who aren't necessarily hooked into politics, there's that Labour's
very determined to bring the country back together again. I
think this current government are promoting policies that are dividing
the country. So if we look at the issues around
the Treaty Principles Bill, if you look at the cup
that they're making to the services that a lot of
kiwis rely on, it's a pretty divisive agenda and we
(02:06):
think that the country is better than that and we
want to see New Zealanders coming together.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You said that the government has made the cost of
living crisis worse? Are you guys off the hot cook
for the previous six years?
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Nothing to do with you, As I said, you know
in my speech today, nothing. No government's ever perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, I know he's got to say these things,
but eight out of ten weren't quite perfect. That's that's
quite a strong dose of call aid he's handing out there,
isn't it. And some people like a strong call aid.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I guess news talk Z.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Been all right.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So it's official in Australia as of I don't think
this actually comes into place until.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
The end of next year.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Seems so weird that it's so far away anyway. Yeah,
under sixteen not allowed on the socials, which is totally enforceable.
Does Francisca think it's going to make any different.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Doing things by the book? Did work sort of in
our house we said no to social media until thirteen,
as recommended by the social media companies at the time.
But it probably only worked because our kids weren't that interested.
They were more into group chats on messaging apps, which
are exempt from this law. And we should definitely be
(03:36):
questioning how healthy messaging apps are for young people's mental
health too. And this is the problem. Our children are
growing up in a digital world, be at the Internet,
social media or messaging apps, and we're still learning about
the impact. Even adults are idiots using some of this
stuff at times, can we ban them too? So anything
that delays the age teenagers are exposed to social media.
(03:59):
It's a good thing, but they will join later, and
the key is using the extra time before they do
to educate them about the positives and perils they will encounter.
It is naive to think that having an aide restriction
would take away the risk of children seeing harmful content online,
and we want them to be good content providers when
they do get involved, so you've got to keep up
(04:21):
those conversations. I love that the Aussies are trying to
get this bolted horse back in the stable when governments
around the world are going to be watching to see
how it goes. However, it turns out online companies will
never take the care we'd like them to, so it
is always going to fall on the parents to step
up to get off our own phone, set an example
and set some boundaries. Parenting, after all, is only really
(04:44):
done well by parents.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I would just remind people out there that most Wi
Fi rauters and things these days, you know, you can
set parental controls, so you know that they can people's
devices and things in the house you know can only
access the Internet or certain sites at certain times that
(05:09):
at all, but I probably would. I always took a
very liberal approach with my kids. I was happy for
them to watch whatever they want on TV DVD's, and
then I sort of let them do whatever they wanted
(05:29):
wanted to online as well, probably but naive about that.
And they've both grown up to be homicidal maniacs. So yeah,
I'm regretting that now you talk. So, yes, December started yesterday.
That's very important, of course, because it's my birthday, birthday
(05:51):
of December, I think that's all. That's what means most
most people. Coincidentally, that's also the start of summer, and yes,
I will accept that people can start talking about Christmas
on that day as well.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
In an age where you know, digital tools are all
consumed and everyone has as a computer or a laptop,
they figured kids would be better off spending their time
learning different skills instead. But of course there's a pushback. Curiously,
the states that have been at the front line, the
absolute forefront of the digital revolution, you know, the states
(06:26):
behind all of the big digital companies and social media platforms.
California and New York have been legislating to make handwriting
a mandatory part of their children's education. But of course
you can only mandate so much. There can be no
mandating of postcards or of Christmas cards. Postcards, I reckon
(06:46):
are going to be the ones to die out first.
Christmas cards maybe have slightly more tradition attached. But why
do I still persist? It's simple. Maybe I'm an old soul,
but there is still that something personal in a handwritten
note that cannot be replicated in an email or a
text or a meme, something real, something tech type. That
(07:10):
being said, if I learned anything from sitting down with
pen in aching hand this week, it's that receiving one
of my handwritten Christmas cards is by no means a
guarantee you'll actually be able to read it.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean there's nothing stopping you, you know, typing it
out and printing it out and putting that in the
Christmas card? Is there that people can read it? I
note that the new Apple Intelligence, when you use Apple
pencil Pro on the on the iPad and you write
on it handwritten notes, it actually cleans up your handwriting
(07:47):
so it's legible. It still looks like you're handwriting, but
it actually makes it look all on the same line
and evenly space and stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
It's quite cool.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Maybe Jack needs to think about that. Disappointing about the
cricket over the weekend, but who cares when you've got
teens like the Auckland FC to.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Support five in a row. Who would have picked that, Jacob?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean, what world would you have expected an expansion
team to bank fifteen points from their first five games.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
It is absolutely remarkable, Elliott. But I think it is
an indication as to the quiet work that's gone on
in football over the last ten years. The player development
side of things has been there, and we know we've
got this young cohort coming through. We also know that
we've been underrepresented in the A leagues. As kiwis in
(08:40):
Auckland is this wonderfully wonderful sporting market. It seems that
we've got a confluence of all those things and they've
come together perfectly so that we've got this Auckland FC
team that has not only been great, Elliott, but is
historically great. They have surpassed so many records now and
the one that is really remarkable is last night they've
(09:02):
brought they broke a forty seven year old record that
has stood since nineteen six tventy seven, and that belonged
to Western suburbs in Sydney. So Auckland has now gone
the longest without conceding a goal. And as they've joined
the top tier in the Australian competition.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So the Phoenix of course didn't play over the weekend.
They must have head of buye or something. Then they're
playing Auckland again this coming weekend, so it'll be a goodie.
It's going to be slightly embarrassing, isn't it for the
Australians the Auckland takes it all out or I mean,
(09:46):
imagine if it was an Auckland Phoenix final. I mean,
do you think they'd start worry that they've expanded a
little bit too much too quickly at that point? That
would be funny. I would like that to happen. Just
think it would be funny.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Hey, we're gonna finish with some movie stars, actual movie stars.
Miwana too. Well, it's going to be a pretty successful
sort of a sort of a movie. I haven't actually
seen the first one. Just quietly, don't tell anyone where.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Does the story pack up? For people who loved Muana.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
The first film, yes, well we were still in Motu Nui,
and whereas the first one was, I was always saying.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
No one goes beyond the reef. But things are normal
and we're all fishing and eating pretty well. But this time,
mowana's growing up a couple of years, right, a few
years years, and she's matured a little bit.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
And the big thing is I kind of kind of
put a big responsibility on her that she's just the
chosen one in a way, and now it's time for
her to go beyond the reef and unite the people
of the Pacific, bring us together as one. And yeah,
(11:06):
that's where we find it, and that's where we go.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
It sounds like quite a pertinent, quite a pertinent little storyline.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I think that's what the kids like from an animated film,
is a little bit of geopolitical subtext. And I really
appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
My kids.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So you know, watch all the R rated movies, you
know I was telling you about before, whoever it goods.
That's the thing that they like best.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I be hat.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So there's been news, it's been, and we'll be at
with more subtexts Tomorrow's Let's see if you can spot it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
News Talk Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk
Said b. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sed be you Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
weekend edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glean Heart
and we are looking back at Sunday and at Saturday,
which is when weekends usually happen, looking back at Australia's
social media? Then can it possibly work? Should we do it? Here?
All that stuff? Remember Christmas cards? Need still getting any
(00:46):
Christmas cards? Aucland FC just keeps going from strength to
strength to strength. And Moana too. It turns out he's
quite a New Zealand connection there before any of that.
Labor's head its big hue over the weekend, and here's
the hue leader tell us all about it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Mark's out of ten for this conference? What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Look?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I mean it's the first conference after an election. We're
not the government and you know we've still got a
lot of work to do, so maybe somewhere between the
seven and an eight out of ten? I reckon, What
was the.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Biggest thing to come out of this weekend for you?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I think the sense of you know, of energy amongst
our party members who are absolutely determined that we're going
to give this government a real run for their money
and we're going to we're going to make them a
one term government and back to you know, we're in
it to win it in the next election.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I guess these events are more about the party, aren't they.
Is there something that you would want to resonate with
the average voter.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I think the key message out of our conference for
people who aren't necessarily hooked into politics, there's that Labour's
very determined to bring the country back together again. I
think this current government are promoting policies that are dividing
the country. So if we look at the issues around
the Treaty Principles Bill, if you look at the cup
that they're making to the services that a lot of
kiwis rely on, it's a pretty divisive agenda and we
(02:06):
think that the country is better than that and we
want to see New Zealanders coming together.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You said that the government has made the cost of
living crisis worse? Are you guys off the hot cook
for the previous six years?
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Nothing to do with you, As I said, you know
in my speech today, nothing. No government's ever perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, I know he's got to say these things,
but eight out of ten weren't quite perfect. That's that's
quite a strong dose of call aid he's handing out there,
isn't it. And some people like a strong call aid.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I guess news talk Z.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Been all right.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So it's official in Australia as of I don't think
this actually comes into place until.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
The end of next year.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Seems so weird that it's so far away anyway. Yeah,
under sixteen not allowed on the socials, which is totally enforceable.
Does Francisca think it's going to make any different.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Doing things by the book? Did work sort of in
our house we said no to social media until thirteen,
as recommended by the social media companies at the time.
But it probably only worked because our kids weren't that interested.
They were more into group chats on messaging apps, which
are exempt from this law. And we should definitely be
(03:36):
questioning how healthy messaging apps are for young people's mental
health too. And this is the problem. Our children are
growing up in a digital world, be at the Internet,
social media or messaging apps, and we're still learning about
the impact. Even adults are idiots using some of this
stuff at times, can we ban them too? So anything
that delays the age teenagers are exposed to social media.
(03:59):
It's a good thing, but they will join later, and
the key is using the extra time before they do
to educate them about the positives and perils they will encounter.
It is naive to think that having an aide restriction
would take away the risk of children seeing harmful content online,
and we want them to be good content providers when
they do get involved, so you've got to keep up
(04:21):
those conversations. I love that the Aussies are trying to
get this bolted horse back in the stable when governments
around the world are going to be watching to see
how it goes. However, it turns out online companies will
never take the care we'd like them to, so it
is always going to fall on the parents to step
up to get off our own phone, set an example
and set some boundaries. Parenting, after all, is only really
(04:44):
done well by parents.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I would just remind people out there that most Wi
Fi rauters and things these days, you know, you can
set parental controls, so you know that they can people's
devices and things in the house you know can only
access the Internet or certain sites at certain times that
(05:09):
at all, but I probably would. I always took a
very liberal approach with my kids. I was happy for
them to watch whatever they want on TV DVD's, and
then I sort of let them do whatever they wanted
(05:29):
wanted to online as well, probably but naive about that.
And they've both grown up to be homicidal maniacs. So yeah,
I'm regretting that now you talk. So, yes, December started yesterday.
That's very important, of course, because it's my birthday, birthday
(05:51):
of December, I think that's all. That's what means most
most people. Coincidentally, that's also the start of summer, and yes,
I will accept that people can start talking about Christmas
on that day as well.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
In an age where you know, digital tools are all
consumed and everyone has as a computer or a laptop,
they figured kids would be better off spending their time
learning different skills instead. But of course there's a pushback. Curiously,
the states that have been at the front line, the
absolute forefront of the digital revolution, you know, the states
(06:26):
behind all of the big digital companies and social media platforms.
California and New York have been legislating to make handwriting
a mandatory part of their children's education. But of course
you can only mandate so much. There can be no
mandating of postcards or of Christmas cards. Postcards, I reckon
(06:46):
are going to be the ones to die out first.
Christmas cards maybe have slightly more tradition attached. But why
do I still persist? It's simple. Maybe I'm an old soul,
but there is still that something personal in a handwritten
note that cannot be replicated in an email or a
text or a meme, something real, something tech type. That
(07:10):
being said, if I learned anything from sitting down with
pen in aching hand this week, it's that receiving one
of my handwritten Christmas cards is by no means a
guarantee you'll actually be able to read it.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean there's nothing stopping you, you know, typing it
out and printing it out and putting that in the
Christmas card? Is there that people can read it? I
note that the new Apple Intelligence, when you use Apple
pencil Pro on the on the iPad and you write
on it handwritten notes, it actually cleans up your handwriting
(07:47):
so it's legible. It still looks like you're handwriting, but
it actually makes it look all on the same line
and evenly space and stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
It's quite cool.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Maybe Jack needs to think about that. Disappointing about the
cricket over the weekend, but who cares when you've got
teens like the Auckland FC to.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Support five in a row. Who would have picked that, Jacob?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean, what world would you have expected an expansion
team to bank fifteen points from their first five games.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
It is absolutely remarkable, Elliott. But I think it is
an indication as to the quiet work that's gone on
in football over the last ten years. The player development
side of things has been there, and we know we've
got this young cohort coming through. We also know that
we've been underrepresented in the A leagues. As kiwis in
(08:40):
Auckland is this wonderfully wonderful sporting market. It seems that
we've got a confluence of all those things and they've
come together perfectly so that we've got this Auckland FC
team that has not only been great, Elliott, but is
historically great. They have surpassed so many records now and
the one that is really remarkable is last night they've
(09:02):
brought they broke a forty seven year old record that
has stood since nineteen six tventy seven, and that belonged
to Western suburbs in Sydney. So Auckland has now gone
the longest without conceding a goal. And as they've joined
the top tier in the Australian competition.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So the Phoenix of course didn't play over the weekend.
They must have head of buye or something. Then they're
playing Auckland again this coming weekend, so it'll be a goodie.
It's going to be slightly embarrassing, isn't it for the
Australians the Auckland takes it all out or I mean,
(09:46):
imagine if it was an Auckland Phoenix final. I mean,
do you think they'd start worry that they've expanded a
little bit too much too quickly at that point? That
would be funny. I would like that to happen. Just
think it would be funny.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Hey, we're gonna finish with some movie stars, actual movie stars.
Miwana too. Well, it's going to be a pretty successful
sort of a sort of a movie. I haven't actually
seen the first one. Just quietly, don't tell anyone where.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Does the story pack up? For people who loved Muana.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
The first film, yes, well we were still in Motu Nui,
and whereas the first one was, I was always saying.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
No one goes beyond the reef. But things are normal
and we're all fishing and eating pretty well. But this time,
mowana's growing up a couple of years, right, a few
years years, and she's matured a little bit.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
And the big thing is I kind of kind of
put a big responsibility on her that she's just the
chosen one in a way, and now it's time for
her to go beyond the reef and unite the people
of the Pacific, bring us together as one. And yeah,
(11:06):
that's where we find it, and that's where we go.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
It sounds like quite a pertinent, quite a pertinent little storyline.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I think that's what the kids like from an animated film,
is a little bit of geopolitical subtext. And I really
appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
My kids.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So you know, watch all the R rated movies, you
know I was telling you about before, whoever it goods.
That's the thing that they like best.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I be hat.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So there's been news, it's been, and we'll be at
with more subtexts Tomorrow's Let's see if you can spot it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
News Talk Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk
Said b. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
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