November 16, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Same Old Result/Big for Beef/Digital Does It Better/Everyone's In a Choir These Days/Ai Is Just So Hot Right Now
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I'm Glean Hart, and
we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday. I find
those are the best days to have weekends on. It
looks like we won't be paying any beef tariffs now,
so that's good. I think we were managing to sell
our stuff anyway, and we're really going to be able
to sell it now. Nice. We'll find out whether Jack
(00:47):
tamers poor or against digital wallets, and Nika Moller is
singing with a choir, and David bulderchi like all to
seem to be these days as written a book that
includes AI as part of the main plot points. But
before any of that, the All Blacks. If you thought
they were useless, you are right.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Our aerial game is still a major week and his
teams know it. England peppered us and got rewards. Will
Jordan is an absolutely fantastic rugby player, but this is
a glaring weakness in his game, and teams will capitalize
on it. Boden Barrett absolutely magnificent servant and player for
(01:26):
the All Blacks, but he's had a challenging year and
this morning was another mixed performance, missing touchs from penalties
something he never does, has kicks and play inaccurate. He
just looked well off his game, out of gas. It
was revealed afterwards he was carrying an injury, which clearly
didn't help, but Boden Barrett had one of his less
(01:48):
memorable test matches. Look, the All Blacks are going to
beat Wales next week and some guys who have had
to hold tackle bags during the week and watch from
the stands in the last three games are going to
get the chance to end their year on a high.
But that won't mask the fact that this is an
All Black side at a crossroads, a group of terrific
rugby players who are failing to be consistently meshed into
(02:10):
a truly imposing team. There are teams struggling to find
an identity and the ability to play for eighty minutes
or even close to it, a coaching staff with several
areas of concern to address, and a group with a
huge chunk of work to do in the next two
years if they are to mount a serious challenge for
(02:32):
the next rugby World cut.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Do you're just not worry about it, or at least
wait until we've got people who can, I don't know,
jump into the air and catch the ball. I still
think they should be recruiting a few mores at are
high jumpers and basketball players.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Here you go, news talks.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That been I don't know what I'm talking about, light lay.
I didn't see the game, completely lost interested in rugby.
I mean, I'm more interested in I don't know, the
price of beef.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Were you expecting this?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
No, Look, we weren't accepting this. What we have seen
with this current American administration is that things can change overnight,
and you know, sometimes it's for the worst. But in
this instance, you know, this was really good news.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Actually, now that you've just said that, are we fairly
confident there is no chance that will see a reversal
of this position.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Look, we're still working through the final details. At this point.
It does appear that all of those additional tariffs that
were imposed back in April and then increased again in
August I have been removed, which puts us back to
I think about one point three percent in quota tariff.
But look, as I said, anything could happen. You know,
(03:45):
they say a week's a long time in politics, and
I think that's particularly true at the minute.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Is this a result of hard work on our part
or is it just the Americans love their beef and
they need it.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Look, I think it's a combination of issues. We've seen
record low herd numbers in the US and actually across
the world, so there is a global shortage of red
meat protein. The cost of living is hitting Americans just
like it's fitting people in the rest of the world.
And you know, Americans do love their beef. You know,
we have a really strong relationship with the American ranchers
(04:17):
and their sort of counterpart organizations because the simple fact
is they need our beef. Our beef is a really
important ingredient in their handburgers because we provide that really lean,
grass fed trim that is combined with their fatty or
American cuts, and you know, that's what makes an American handburgers.
So you know, they do need us, and I think
you know, their producers recognize that. So you know, it's
(04:39):
great that this move has been made.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yet it just seems like pretty much like everybody except
Trump predicted. If he wants to keep the prices down
on things like I don't know, burgers, he can't charge
made up taxes on those products because they can't just
(05:02):
make them out of American beef. It turns out they
don't have enough, and it's not very nice.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
US talk said.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Edit nutshell. Right now, are you worried about in digital IDs,
digital wallets.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Being tracked online? I wonder if jackers, digital passports, digital
bank cards, digital drivers licenses, digital swipe cards for getting
into the office, what pray could possibly go wrong? And
I agree with you, I do. The more that our
(05:38):
vital ID and payment systems go digital, the more vulnerable
many of these systems might be to failure to power outages,
to coding errors, auto hacking. At least for the near future.
Of course, there are going to be the traditional options available.
They're not scrapping plastic driver's licenses just yet. But all
(06:00):
things being equal, I reckon twenty twenty six might be
the last year of my life in which I actually
need to carry a wallet. I reckon, this is it.
I reckon, We've reached the end of the road. I'm
going to be first in line for a digital driver's
license once they introduce them here and a year from now.
(06:22):
I reckon everything I need from my cards, I should
be able to do with my phone. And while look,
I know there are risks, I understand there are risks.
I know it's a single point of failure. I know
it'll be even more of a disaster if I accidentally
lose my phone. Truthfully, my concerns are drowned out by
(06:46):
an even stronger impulse. Sure there are security concerns, but man,
just think of the convenience.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It's weird that people talk about the security risk. I
was given some crazy cards recently, well, the equivalent of
a debit card with some money on.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
It, and.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
There's no security at all, where Like, you know, if
I hit my wallet stolen and had those cads in it,
I can't stop anybody you know, spending that money on
that card, Whereas, at least you know, with my digital idea,
I can log in from anywhere and shut it all
down straight away as soon as I know that it's
gone missing. Yeah, stop worrying about digital guys. Right. If
(07:41):
you've been wondering what Anikoma has been out too lately,
it turns out she's been practicing with a choir. It
seems to be the thing these days, isn't it choirs?
Everybody's ad a choir. They are choirs everywhere. I only
say that because last week everybody was talking about the choir.
Mikey Havoc was, and of course.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Julia Dean's is also on the show. As you mentioned,
you're really close with her. I mean, you two have
been good mates and supporters of each other for a long.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Time, but i'd say twenty twenty five years. And she's
doing a new song actually in our shows, and the
quiet arrangement she did because she's amazing with harmonies, and
it just I just sat there with my kids and
I was just like, Wow, Okay, cool, that's my She's
(08:26):
always been my goalpost. She's always been the person I've
always looked up to, and now I kind of look
down to her. She's a bit shorter than me, And
how amazing for her for all of us to be
passed in our well, in our forties writing great music,
still writing great music. So I can't wait to hear
that song live.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
What do you think it is that brings people together
to sing? Is it about connection? Is it sort of
that communal experience.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I think it's the communal experience. I think that it's
it's a real far No vibe and everyone searching for
their place. I didn't grow up on am I I
didn't grow up with my EWI and I always go
up north and search for people that that that might
be far No because I feel like I want to
be a part of something. So I think a quiet
experience is almost well, it is kind of on par
(09:20):
because you just want to play soccer with your mates.
You know, Shane Carter, he still plays soccer. He's used
to go watch him play soccer, and it's part of
a team, and he's part of a world. And I
think being a musician can sometimes be a lonely place
as well, because you know you're either in a band
or your solo and you overthink things, are anxious, you're introverted.
(09:42):
I'm not. But it's nice to be part of something.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, I guess, so, he says the guy standing here
or by himself, talking to himself. As far as he knows,
we're all part of something, you and me. How are
we together? We're a team? Are we guys? Guys?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
News talk?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We're going to finish up with somebody else he does another.
I guess it's a lonely job. Some people are more
collaborative than others. I'm talking about writing writing books in particular.
David Bordoucci a very successful at it, and it seems
like we've had a number of writers on New Tools
(10:26):
that Be lately talking about why AI is such a
big part of their plot these days in their next novels.
I guess it's a big part of everything, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Where do you come up with this kind of concept?
Because obviously, you know your stories deal with conspiracies and
with power and with law enforcement a lot of the time.
But where did you get the idea of Walter Nash?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Well, you know, I've been writing a long time, and
one of my chief things that I do to keep
myself motivated is to challenge myself, try something new, get
out of my comfort zone, create characters I haven't created before.
So Walter Nash is sort of my experiment of I
could take a human being and suddenly rip everything away
that they've had in their life and see how they
(11:12):
can keep going, how they can pick themselves back up,
and how resilient they are and interesting is in a
novel to see how a fictional character could do that.
And that was my test with Walter Nash. I could
push this guy not just up against the wall, but
through the wall and see what he would do.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, so is that there's quite a deliberate decision. You
challenge yourself to get outside of your comfort zone for
creative purposes.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
You really have to, Otherwise you're just going to become
a book factory where you're writing the same plot and
over and over again, but just changing the names. I
just I never want to do that. I'd be bored
writing it, and you'd be bored reading it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I don't know, though, like affair is a particular kind
of book that you like as long as you're not
reading them back to back with the previous one. I
don't know about you, but I couldn't remember, you know,
the book before the book wouldcord the book before last
I read. So I thought they were just sort of
reconstituting that plot. I think I'd already be into it.
(12:09):
Don't overestimate liability to consume the same old, same old.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
I am a gleed Haart.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Hopefully this was a little bit differ at the last
weekends one, Maybe it wasn't that. Maybe you've forgotten that
and you're enjoying it just as much. And I'll see
you back here again for a not weekend wonder Morrow used.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Talking Talking z It Beam For more from News Talk
set B listen live on air or online, and
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I'm Glean Hart, and
we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday. I find
those are the best days to have weekends on. It
looks like we won't be paying any beef tariffs now,
so that's good. I think we were managing to sell
our stuff anyway, and we're really going to be able
to sell it now. Nice. We'll find out whether Jack
(00:47):
tamers poor or against digital wallets, and Nika Moller is
singing with a choir, and David bulderchi like all to
seem to be these days as written a book that
includes AI as part of the main plot points. But
before any of that, the All Blacks. If you thought
they were useless, you are right.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Our aerial game is still a major week and his
teams know it. England peppered us and got rewards. Will
Jordan is an absolutely fantastic rugby player, but this is
a glaring weakness in his game, and teams will capitalize
on it. Boden Barrett absolutely magnificent servant and player for
(01:26):
the All Blacks, but he's had a challenging year and
this morning was another mixed performance, missing touchs from penalties
something he never does, has kicks and play inaccurate. He
just looked well off his game, out of gas. It
was revealed afterwards he was carrying an injury, which clearly
didn't help, but Boden Barrett had one of his less
(01:48):
memorable test matches. Look, the All Blacks are going to
beat Wales next week and some guys who have had
to hold tackle bags during the week and watch from
the stands in the last three games are going to
get the chance to end their year on a high.
But that won't mask the fact that this is an
All Black side at a crossroads, a group of terrific
rugby players who are failing to be consistently meshed into
(02:10):
a truly imposing team. There are teams struggling to find
an identity and the ability to play for eighty minutes
or even close to it, a coaching staff with several
areas of concern to address, and a group with a
huge chunk of work to do in the next two
years if they are to mount a serious challenge for
(02:32):
the next rugby World cut.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Do you're just not worry about it, or at least
wait until we've got people who can, I don't know,
jump into the air and catch the ball. I still
think they should be recruiting a few mores at are
high jumpers and basketball players.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Here you go, news talks.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That been I don't know what I'm talking about, light lay.
I didn't see the game, completely lost interested in rugby.
I mean, I'm more interested in I don't know, the
price of beef.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Were you expecting this?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
No, Look, we weren't accepting this. What we have seen
with this current American administration is that things can change overnight,
and you know, sometimes it's for the worst. But in
this instance, you know, this was really good news.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Actually, now that you've just said that, are we fairly
confident there is no chance that will see a reversal
of this position.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Look, we're still working through the final details. At this point.
It does appear that all of those additional tariffs that
were imposed back in April and then increased again in
August I have been removed, which puts us back to
I think about one point three percent in quota tariff.
But look, as I said, anything could happen. You know,
(03:45):
they say a week's a long time in politics, and
I think that's particularly true at the minute.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Is this a result of hard work on our part
or is it just the Americans love their beef and
they need it.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Look, I think it's a combination of issues. We've seen
record low herd numbers in the US and actually across
the world, so there is a global shortage of red
meat protein. The cost of living is hitting Americans just
like it's fitting people in the rest of the world.
And you know, Americans do love their beef. You know,
we have a really strong relationship with the American ranchers
(04:17):
and their sort of counterpart organizations because the simple fact
is they need our beef. Our beef is a really
important ingredient in their handburgers because we provide that really lean,
grass fed trim that is combined with their fatty or
American cuts, and you know, that's what makes an American handburgers.
So you know, they do need us, and I think
you know, their producers recognize that. So you know, it's
(04:39):
great that this move has been made.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yet it just seems like pretty much like everybody except
Trump predicted. If he wants to keep the prices down
on things like I don't know, burgers, he can't charge
made up taxes on those products because they can't just
(05:02):
make them out of American beef. It turns out they
don't have enough, and it's not very nice.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
US talk said.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Edit nutshell. Right now, are you worried about in digital IDs,
digital wallets.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Being tracked online? I wonder if jackers, digital passports, digital
bank cards, digital drivers licenses, digital swipe cards for getting
into the office, what pray could possibly go wrong? And
I agree with you, I do. The more that our
(05:38):
vital ID and payment systems go digital, the more vulnerable
many of these systems might be to failure to power outages,
to coding errors, auto hacking. At least for the near future.
Of course, there are going to be the traditional options available.
They're not scrapping plastic driver's licenses just yet. But all
(06:00):
things being equal, I reckon twenty twenty six might be
the last year of my life in which I actually
need to carry a wallet. I reckon, this is it.
I reckon, We've reached the end of the road. I'm
going to be first in line for a digital driver's
license once they introduce them here and a year from now.
(06:22):
I reckon everything I need from my cards, I should
be able to do with my phone. And while look,
I know there are risks, I understand there are risks.
I know it's a single point of failure. I know
it'll be even more of a disaster if I accidentally
lose my phone. Truthfully, my concerns are drowned out by
(06:46):
an even stronger impulse. Sure there are security concerns, but man,
just think of the convenience.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It's weird that people talk about the security risk. I
was given some crazy cards recently, well, the equivalent of
a debit card with some money on.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
It, and.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
There's no security at all, where Like, you know, if
I hit my wallet stolen and had those cads in it,
I can't stop anybody you know, spending that money on
that card, Whereas, at least you know, with my digital idea,
I can log in from anywhere and shut it all
down straight away as soon as I know that it's
gone missing. Yeah, stop worrying about digital guys. Right. If
(07:41):
you've been wondering what Anikoma has been out too lately,
it turns out she's been practicing with a choir. It
seems to be the thing these days, isn't it choirs?
Everybody's ad a choir. They are choirs everywhere. I only
say that because last week everybody was talking about the choir.
Mikey Havoc was, and of course.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Julia Dean's is also on the show. As you mentioned,
you're really close with her. I mean, you two have
been good mates and supporters of each other for a long.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Time, but i'd say twenty twenty five years. And she's
doing a new song actually in our shows, and the
quiet arrangement she did because she's amazing with harmonies, and
it just I just sat there with my kids and
I was just like, Wow, Okay, cool, that's my She's
(08:26):
always been my goalpost. She's always been the person I've
always looked up to, and now I kind of look
down to her. She's a bit shorter than me, And
how amazing for her for all of us to be
passed in our well, in our forties writing great music,
still writing great music. So I can't wait to hear
that song live.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
What do you think it is that brings people together
to sing? Is it about connection? Is it sort of
that communal experience.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I think it's the communal experience. I think that it's
it's a real far No vibe and everyone searching for
their place. I didn't grow up on am I I
didn't grow up with my EWI and I always go
up north and search for people that that that might
be far No because I feel like I want to
be a part of something. So I think a quiet
experience is almost well, it is kind of on par
(09:20):
because you just want to play soccer with your mates.
You know, Shane Carter, he still plays soccer. He's used
to go watch him play soccer, and it's part of
a team, and he's part of a world. And I
think being a musician can sometimes be a lonely place
as well, because you know you're either in a band
or your solo and you overthink things, are anxious, you're introverted.
(09:42):
I'm not. But it's nice to be part of something.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, I guess, so, he says the guy standing here
or by himself, talking to himself. As far as he knows,
we're all part of something, you and me. How are
we together? We're a team? Are we guys? Guys?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
News talk?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We're going to finish up with somebody else he does another.
I guess it's a lonely job. Some people are more
collaborative than others. I'm talking about writing writing books in particular.
David Bordoucci a very successful at it, and it seems
like we've had a number of writers on New Tools
(10:26):
that Be lately talking about why AI is such a
big part of their plot these days in their next novels.
I guess it's a big part of everything, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Where do you come up with this kind of concept?
Because obviously, you know your stories deal with conspiracies and
with power and with law enforcement a lot of the time.
But where did you get the idea of Walter Nash?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Well, you know, I've been writing a long time, and
one of my chief things that I do to keep
myself motivated is to challenge myself, try something new, get
out of my comfort zone, create characters I haven't created before.
So Walter Nash is sort of my experiment of I
could take a human being and suddenly rip everything away
that they've had in their life and see how they
(11:12):
can keep going, how they can pick themselves back up,
and how resilient they are and interesting is in a
novel to see how a fictional character could do that.
And that was my test with Walter Nash. I could
push this guy not just up against the wall, but
through the wall and see what he would do.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, so is that there's quite a deliberate decision. You
challenge yourself to get outside of your comfort zone for
creative purposes.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
You really have to, Otherwise you're just going to become
a book factory where you're writing the same plot and
over and over again, but just changing the names. I
just I never want to do that. I'd be bored
writing it, and you'd be bored reading it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I don't know, though, like affair is a particular kind
of book that you like as long as you're not
reading them back to back with the previous one. I
don't know about you, but I couldn't remember, you know,
the book before the book wouldcord the book before last
I read. So I thought they were just sort of
reconstituting that plot. I think I'd already be into it.
(12:09):
Don't overestimate liability to consume the same old, same old.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
I am a gleed Haart.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Hopefully this was a little bit differ at the last
weekends one, Maybe it wasn't that. Maybe you've forgotten that
and you're enjoying it just as much. And I'll see
you back here again for a not weekend wonder Morrow used.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Talking Talking z It Beam For more from News Talk
set B listen live on air or online, and
Speaker 3 (12:36):
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