July 18, 2024 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Sometimes Bad, Sometimes Good/The Stench of Big Tobacco/Poor Old Joe/It's Not a Gender Thing/Podcast Roulette
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Harton. We're looking
back at Thursday, Casey Costello. This is a fraud business,
isn't it. But we'll try and we'll try and dissect
some of what's going on here. Poor old Joe Biden's
(00:44):
got COVID now the Secret Service certainly under scrutiny in
the US. And then back here, I'm going to play
a little bit of podcast roulette with Marcus. I'll tell
you a bit more about that shortly. But before any
of that, what now for people who are buying and
selling or selling and buying in the housing market, Given
(01:05):
that with these latest inflation figures being good news, that
might mean that interest rates might actually start coming down?
Is that what's going to happen if.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You want to move overseas? What do you do? Do
you wait until the house is sold? And what happens
to the job that you've got lined up? If you
are waiting to go into a retirement village that's kind
of like a Domino's everybody's in the same boat. So
I imagine retirement villagees are probably waiting for the housing
(01:37):
market to come back to life as well. Do you rent?
I mean that brings a whole new set of issues
as well. If you don't want to be a landlord,
but you can't sell the house, you want to sell
the house eventually you see signs perhaps that the market
(01:58):
is coming back to life, So you don't want to
put renters in and then have to move them out
six months from now. Where do you go? What do
you do.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
When you need a.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Else to sell? Not for fun, not for sport, not
for your retirement fund, but because that is where you live.
You no longer want to live there. You want to
live somewhere else, and your life is on hold until
that happens. What have you been doing any innovative ideas?
(02:32):
And can you see this with Westpact now ane zed
as a sign that you can finally start to move
on and start to begin this new chapter in your life.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean I keep saying this. So I'm in
my fifties now and I've seen good times and bad times,
and if you've got the resources to wait. You know,
good times are literally just around the corner. I guess
the problem arises when you don't have the resources to
(03:04):
wait for Many small businesses in particular certainly be an issue.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
News Talk Ze Bean.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Now big business as opposed to for business as the
tobacco industry, and there's just a real stench around their
relationship with n ZE.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
First MP Cases Costello isn't there.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Based on an article which has come out from Guyan
espinher and this is about New Zealand First Minister Casey Costello,
who's also the Associate Health Minister and also the Customs Minister,
and all these things come together. So she's ordered a
fifty percent cut to the excise tax on heated tobacco products.
And this was announced quietly on the Custom's website, or
(03:47):
rather actually wasn't announced at all. It's just if you
are a political geek or a political journalist and doing
some fine work, you'd notice that it had been dropped.
It was no longer mentioned there and indeed had been removed.
A fifty percent cut to the excise tax on heated
tobacco products. So Casey Costello, who you may recall, is
(04:09):
not fond of the interviews, and I think it's important
for us to remind ourselves here that these people are
paid for by us and part of being a well
paid politician. I have no issue with politicians being well paid,
but part of the deal is that they're available to
a reasonable expectation for interviews. And it doesn't have to
(04:30):
be with the same media outlets, but across the board,
they do need to be available to explain the decisions
that they are making. Anyway, so she generally refuses interviews,
but she says this has been done to encourage smokers
to switch to safer alternatives. Now, the only problem is
this is exactly what big tobacco want. So if you're
(04:50):
a big tobacco company and your profits are facing an
existential threat from smoke free movements around the world, ask
yourself the question, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, you have you make bapes and you sell ape drug.
I think that's where it was getting to that. So, yeah,
this is so weird and I don't understand. I really
don't understand how we just sat there and let this happen.
I don't remember very few of us remember anybody talking
(05:20):
about this stuff for the election and it was one
of the first things that came out past post the
election that suddenly this coalition government was basically right back
in the pocket of big Tobacco. It's so weird. I
don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Que's talk said, right, let's.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Turn our attention back to the US. Indeed, our attention
is gont have been diverted away from it lately, just
when things were really looking so good for Biden, but
now he's got COVID.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
From the start of that woeful presidential debate performance, I've
personally felt that Joe Biden's candidacy is totally untenable. If
the Democrats are to have any chance of winning the
White House in November, they have to find a way
to push him out and unite around a younger, better
fresher candidate. News today out of the US is that
(06:11):
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has privately pressured Joe Biden
to stand down. Add to that, House Minority Leader Hakem
Jeffreys who reportedly offered him the same message. That means
the two most powerful Democrats in Congress think that their
party's chances are not best served in November if Joe
Biden is still on the ticket. Personally, I love the
(06:34):
idea put forward by Bill Clinton's old advisor James Carvill,
he of the It's the Economy's Stupid advice. He reckons
that the Democrats should do a series of massive town
hall meetings, one in the Midwest, one in the South,
one on the East coast, and one on the West coast.
Take Joe Biden completely out of it. Have Barack Obama
(06:55):
and Bill Clinton facilitate the four big meetings, a handful
of potential Democrats competing against each other on stage, broadcast
live around the world. Turn it into American Idol. But
you know, for presidential candidates. The Republican Convention underway right
now is giving the Dems a perfect example of how
(07:16):
a carefully crafted, made for TV extravaganza can amplify the
hype around a candidate. But to get there first, they
need Biden to step away, and bad as his COVID
nineteen diagnosis might be for Joe, this is probably their
single best chance.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, this is annoying for me because I've put
my reputation as a highly respected news analyst on the
line and a number of after ours conversations with people
claiming that he will never step down, and because they
would do more harm than good to the campaign ultimately,
(07:58):
and I basis basically just on polling figures that most
polling figures show that head to head, Biden and Trump
are still pretty even, and that and my reasoning was,
you know, he can't go any worse than what he's doing.
He'll probably go a bit better as we get closer
to the actual election. And then he goes and gets COVID.
(08:21):
I'm going to have to refact that I don't so
the blame for the attempted assassination on Donald Trump has
fallen squarely on the us SS. That's not a that's
(08:44):
not a ship, that's the Secret Service. And then people
from there, people have said, oh, they've gone woke and
broke to second service. They've hired too many women. That's
what the problem is.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Why do they have these short women guarding Trump? Quite
an explosive opinion from Megan McCain. Some are blaming the
diversity inclusion targets. Apparently they've got a target of having
thirty percent of the Secret Service agents as women. And
I can remember similar ants from some firefighters male firefighters
a few years back, they didn't trust women, well smaller
(09:21):
women to be able to pull them out of a
burning building should the need arise, And others say that
these arguments are sexist, that women can and should do anything, etc.
Both of these arguments I think kind of have merit.
It's a fact that men are generally taller and bigger
than women, but that doesn't mean all men are. I
can think of many women who are taller and bigger
(09:42):
than me who could frankly beat the crap out of
me if I needed a bodyguard or saving from a
burning building. Their sex wouldn't be an issue to me.
But if the person is smaller and not as strong,
whether it's a Secret Service agent or whether it's a firefighter,
shouldn't there be minimum standards that apply to ensure safety.
(10:04):
Surely safety would be top of mine when it comes
to to both of those occupations, firefighters and to the
Secret Service. So perhaps Meghan McCain, no matter how outrageous,
has a point on this one.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I don't know how much the gender of the
agents has to do with it. It's more one of
the only buildings within shooting distance of the area was
completely unguarded. I don't think that's anything to do with
being a woman or being anything out other than a
(10:40):
bit useless.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
At your job.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
News Talk has it been right?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Let's finish up with the podcast roulette.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Here we go. The clip is called Marcus Tries to
be Eminem. I haven't listened to it until now. Let's go.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
No way, should you have to move to the park
of the car parking people can't get it right. I
just know you don't mess with you don't mess with
Wilson's cause Wilson's is going to kill ye.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
No, that's not quite true.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
That would be fun to do an MMM song, but
you'd stay well clear of them.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, Like I gave that a kind of a big
build up and then it does sort of. It's the
flating balloon. Wasn't what I was hoping. That's but that's
what happens.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
With podcast really.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Sometimes it plays off. No, of course, I am ugly
and heart Who knows what we'll have for you with
the weekend edition of News Talks. They had been on Monday.
I mean every day it's some podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Really, really, news Talk is talks.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It been.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
For more from news Talk said, be listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk SEDB Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Harton. We're looking
back at Thursday, Casey Costello. This is a fraud business,
isn't it. But we'll try and we'll try and dissect
some of what's going on here. Poor old Joe Biden's
(00:44):
got COVID now the Secret Service certainly under scrutiny in
the US. And then back here, I'm going to play
a little bit of podcast roulette with Marcus. I'll tell
you a bit more about that shortly. But before any
of that, what now for people who are buying and
selling or selling and buying in the housing market, Given
(01:05):
that with these latest inflation figures being good news, that
might mean that interest rates might actually start coming down?
Is that what's going to happen if.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You want to move overseas? What do you do? Do
you wait until the house is sold? And what happens
to the job that you've got lined up? If you
are waiting to go into a retirement village that's kind
of like a Domino's everybody's in the same boat. So
I imagine retirement villagees are probably waiting for the housing
(01:37):
market to come back to life as well. Do you rent?
I mean that brings a whole new set of issues
as well. If you don't want to be a landlord,
but you can't sell the house, you want to sell
the house eventually you see signs perhaps that the market
(01:58):
is coming back to life, So you don't want to
put renters in and then have to move them out
six months from now. Where do you go? What do
you do.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
When you need a.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Else to sell? Not for fun, not for sport, not
for your retirement fund, but because that is where you live.
You no longer want to live there. You want to
live somewhere else, and your life is on hold until
that happens. What have you been doing any innovative ideas?
(02:32):
And can you see this with Westpact now ane zed
as a sign that you can finally start to move
on and start to begin this new chapter in your life.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean I keep saying this. So I'm in
my fifties now and I've seen good times and bad times,
and if you've got the resources to wait. You know,
good times are literally just around the corner. I guess
the problem arises when you don't have the resources to
(03:04):
wait for Many small businesses in particular certainly be an issue.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
News Talk Ze Bean.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Now big business as opposed to for business as the
tobacco industry, and there's just a real stench around their
relationship with n ZE.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
First MP Cases Costello isn't there.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Based on an article which has come out from Guyan
espinher and this is about New Zealand First Minister Casey Costello,
who's also the Associate Health Minister and also the Customs Minister,
and all these things come together. So she's ordered a
fifty percent cut to the excise tax on heated tobacco products.
And this was announced quietly on the Custom's website, or
(03:47):
rather actually wasn't announced at all. It's just if you
are a political geek or a political journalist and doing
some fine work, you'd notice that it had been dropped.
It was no longer mentioned there and indeed had been removed.
A fifty percent cut to the excise tax on heated
tobacco products. So Casey Costello, who you may recall, is
(04:09):
not fond of the interviews, and I think it's important
for us to remind ourselves here that these people are
paid for by us and part of being a well
paid politician. I have no issue with politicians being well paid,
but part of the deal is that they're available to
a reasonable expectation for interviews. And it doesn't have to
(04:30):
be with the same media outlets, but across the board,
they do need to be available to explain the decisions
that they are making. Anyway, so she generally refuses interviews,
but she says this has been done to encourage smokers
to switch to safer alternatives. Now, the only problem is
this is exactly what big tobacco want. So if you're
(04:50):
a big tobacco company and your profits are facing an
existential threat from smoke free movements around the world, ask
yourself the question, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, you have you make bapes and you sell ape drug.
I think that's where it was getting to that. So, yeah,
this is so weird and I don't understand. I really
don't understand how we just sat there and let this happen.
I don't remember very few of us remember anybody talking
(05:20):
about this stuff for the election and it was one
of the first things that came out past post the
election that suddenly this coalition government was basically right back
in the pocket of big Tobacco. It's so weird. I
don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Que's talk said, right, let's.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Turn our attention back to the US. Indeed, our attention
is gont have been diverted away from it lately, just
when things were really looking so good for Biden, but
now he's got COVID.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
From the start of that woeful presidential debate performance, I've
personally felt that Joe Biden's candidacy is totally untenable. If
the Democrats are to have any chance of winning the
White House in November, they have to find a way
to push him out and unite around a younger, better
fresher candidate. News today out of the US is that
(06:11):
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has privately pressured Joe Biden
to stand down. Add to that, House Minority Leader Hakem
Jeffreys who reportedly offered him the same message. That means
the two most powerful Democrats in Congress think that their
party's chances are not best served in November if Joe
Biden is still on the ticket. Personally, I love the
(06:34):
idea put forward by Bill Clinton's old advisor James Carvill,
he of the It's the Economy's Stupid advice. He reckons
that the Democrats should do a series of massive town
hall meetings, one in the Midwest, one in the South,
one on the East coast, and one on the West coast.
Take Joe Biden completely out of it. Have Barack Obama
(06:55):
and Bill Clinton facilitate the four big meetings, a handful
of potential Democrats competing against each other on stage, broadcast
live around the world. Turn it into American Idol. But
you know, for presidential candidates. The Republican Convention underway right
now is giving the Dems a perfect example of how
(07:16):
a carefully crafted, made for TV extravaganza can amplify the
hype around a candidate. But to get there first, they
need Biden to step away, and bad as his COVID
nineteen diagnosis might be for Joe, this is probably their
single best chance.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, this is annoying for me because I've put
my reputation as a highly respected news analyst on the
line and a number of after ours conversations with people
claiming that he will never step down, and because they
would do more harm than good to the campaign ultimately,
(07:58):
and I basis basically just on polling figures that most
polling figures show that head to head, Biden and Trump
are still pretty even, and that and my reasoning was,
you know, he can't go any worse than what he's doing.
He'll probably go a bit better as we get closer
to the actual election. And then he goes and gets COVID.
(08:21):
I'm going to have to refact that I don't so
the blame for the attempted assassination on Donald Trump has
fallen squarely on the us SS. That's not a that's
(08:44):
not a ship, that's the Secret Service. And then people
from there, people have said, oh, they've gone woke and
broke to second service. They've hired too many women. That's
what the problem is.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Why do they have these short women guarding Trump? Quite
an explosive opinion from Megan McCain. Some are blaming the
diversity inclusion targets. Apparently they've got a target of having
thirty percent of the Secret Service agents as women. And
I can remember similar ants from some firefighters male firefighters
a few years back, they didn't trust women, well smaller
(09:21):
women to be able to pull them out of a
burning building should the need arise, And others say that
these arguments are sexist, that women can and should do anything, etc.
Both of these arguments I think kind of have merit.
It's a fact that men are generally taller and bigger
than women, but that doesn't mean all men are. I
can think of many women who are taller and bigger
(09:42):
than me who could frankly beat the crap out of
me if I needed a bodyguard or saving from a
burning building. Their sex wouldn't be an issue to me.
But if the person is smaller and not as strong,
whether it's a Secret Service agent or whether it's a firefighter,
shouldn't there be minimum standards that apply to ensure safety.
(10:04):
Surely safety would be top of mine when it comes
to to both of those occupations, firefighters and to the
Secret Service. So perhaps Meghan McCain, no matter how outrageous,
has a point on this one.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I don't know how much the gender of the
agents has to do with it. It's more one of
the only buildings within shooting distance of the area was
completely unguarded. I don't think that's anything to do with
being a woman or being anything out other than a
(10:40):
bit useless.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
At your job.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
News Talk has it been right?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Let's finish up with the podcast roulette.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Here we go. The clip is called Marcus Tries to
be Eminem. I haven't listened to it until now. Let's go.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
No way, should you have to move to the park
of the car parking people can't get it right. I
just know you don't mess with you don't mess with
Wilson's cause Wilson's is going to kill ye.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
No, that's not quite true.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
That would be fun to do an MMM song, but
you'd stay well clear of them.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, Like I gave that a kind of a big
build up and then it does sort of. It's the
flating balloon. Wasn't what I was hoping. That's but that's
what happens.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
With podcast really.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Sometimes it plays off. No, of course, I am ugly
and heart Who knows what we'll have for you with
the weekend edition of News Talks. They had been on Monday.
I mean every day it's some podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Really, really, news Talk is talks.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It been.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
For more from news Talk said, be listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
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