November 17, 2025 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
Here's with your today's news. I am Glenn Hart and
we are looking back at Monday. The CGT Apparently everybody
wants it congestion charges. I don't think anybody wants those,
(00:48):
do they? Nobody wants Scott Robertson to be the Albert's
coach anymore. And there was an up swell of support
for Matt Heath's marathon run and also an up swell
of hate for it as well, which is weird. But
(01:09):
before any of that, if polls they keep doing these poles?
Why do they keep doing these poles? Have these people
got nothing better to do?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Labor has some policies, albeit three, but they include the
contentious one, the capital gains tax, and they will love
how this has played for them so far, because so
far it actually hasn't been a terrible mess. So now
that Labor has policies confirming they are indeed a party
of more tax and more spend, the numbers should in
theory be turning, but they're not. The latest IPSOS poll
(01:41):
shows voters trust Labor more on the economy and cost
of living than National. Basically everything except foreign affairs and
law and order, and foreign affairs is Winston Peters. So
not great for the coalition, We're not great for National.
I should say the economy should turn around, green shoots
next year, et cetera, et cetera. How many times have
we been told that? But people just aren't feeling it yet.
(02:04):
So National strategy for weight and hope till November next year,
which is like when they're going to go to the polls.
It's looking riskier by the day. As for the leadership question,
Jacinda didn't teach us much about leadership, but we did
learn something important from her, and that is you can
switch leaders really close to an election day and not
crash your vote. In fact, you can actually increase it.
(02:25):
So and eleventh hour switched to Stanford or Bush or whoever,
will remain a live option I think right up until
D day.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So yeah, it's easy to And obviously I sit here
listen to my hosting all morning and he's very disparaging
of these sorts of polls and tells everybody not to
take any notice of them and questions their methodology, And
(02:53):
but what if they're right? What if people do actually
trust labor would be economy? Has that ever happened?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
News talk has been yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And so anyway, people are just loving the idea of
a capital gains das. So does that mean that there
are more people without investment properties than there are with?
Is that what? That's an indicator?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Ole In areas where people are doing well, you know,
where house prices haven't caved, haven't collapsed, there's more support
for it. In areas are so less support for in
areas that are feeling poor because their house prices have
fallen through the floor, they don't like it so much.
So basically you have a squeezed middle voter telling you
(03:38):
in Auckland, probably telling you that they feel too poor
to support another tax. And so you end up with
this fight between people who like the sound of an
idea and people who feel it will threaten their chance
of getting wealthier or growing wealth. And then you've got
to ask yourself, will the tax do what it says
on the label? Will it pay for millions of extra
(03:59):
doctor visits? You know where? Will these doctors magically appear from.
Does the party that is offering this utopia have a
good track record with delivering on promises, particularly if they
tell you how much but not really how quite important.
You could look at this pole and you could think
it's a win for the Capital Gains because it sort
(04:20):
of is soort off. But there is plenty of fodder
for an anti Capital Gains campaign, which is no doubt
being workshopped by some ad agency in gray Lynn for
the National Party as we speak.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Hang on, was
that two lots of Ryan Bridge in a row? Yeah,
it's a new thing that we're trying out where it's
just an or Ryan Monday. How did you feel about that?
I think we had him on every show yesterday and
well why wouldn't we talk it tired today? Yeah? That
(04:57):
sounds like how it work right. Congestion charges? Where are
we at with these? Are these ever actually going to
happen here?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Sure? Put a congestion tax on in London? But really Auckland, Hello,
really tow Runger Tow Hunger is our most taxed roading system.
Got a couple of them there? You had the k
road ages ago, did it work or Wellington, and I'll
talk more about Wellington later because today's a big day
(05:25):
for Wellington transport. The fact of the matter, if you
don't like the congestion tax, is all we had to
do was provide alternatives to the car. They were affordable
and efficient. But every time we talked about public transport
options or alternate modes or god for bid, psycle ways,
they've always been shouted down by people who think we
still live in a rural village and not of modern
(05:47):
cities and we should all have the human right to
drive from Dorset to doorstep. Well, that's a lack of foresight,
is it not, because we kept on growing and growing
and growing. Unfortunately, transportation, like public transport is the answer,
because there's very little room for more roads. But then
again we'll have to figure out how to pay for
(06:09):
that transport system, and again that will fall on you
and me and our wallets, just the same as with
any tax. But at the moment, unbelievably under a national
leg coalition, another tax is coming. And do you think
our roads are going to suddenly clear out?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I don't yep.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
People have still got to get to work. That was
Andrew Dickens not Kerrie Woodham. He's back again today being
Ryan Bridge. Are you following? So Ryan Bridge was Ryan Bridge?
But then it's all getting a bit confusing, isn't it.
Music Now the all boats absolutely smashed by England and
(06:53):
the weekend and it's all Scott Robertson's spout. I just
feel like since he stopped breakdancing and he just hasn't
had the results, he just needs to dance again. Let
him let himself go again.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Marcus couldn't be where we saw losers. Marcus. Imagine if
a specially design computer program read the text to reduce
the workload, but you could interrupt and committed any time.
All Black's not the same anymore. Why do the assistants
quit Razia should stick to the breakdancing? Well, of course
the breakdancing was his job. It's probably something he did
(07:24):
four or five times. But do you want to judge
him for that because people continually do which is kind
of weird to me. But that's something a comment about
New Zealand sports following public. They'll forgive a lot of things,
but not breakdancing, which is weird, isn't it. Wow? Do
you think the things that people do they'll never forgive you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, no, he's not. He's got it all wrong. I'm
not saying he should. I'm not saying that was a
dumb thing to do, the breakdancing. I'm saying that is
why the Crusaders were so winny because of the breakdancing.
He's got it round the wrong way. And ever since
he stopped breakdancing, it's been all over the place. It's
(08:10):
obvious people have got it all wrong. The more breakdancing
Razor does, I believe, the more successful the all Blacks
will be. It's science.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
News talk Z been now.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Matt Heath was one of the thousands who popped down
to Queenstown over the weekend for the marathon down there.
I'm not sure if he was up to break dancing
when he completed.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
It.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Weird to hear that some people felt obliged to not
give him a message of support, but a message of well,
not support.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Hey, I just want to say thank you so much
for your lovely messages on me finishing the marathon on
the weekends. So nice of people to text through those messages.
It was hard and I'm shagged and sore two days later,
but to get those nice messages has made my day,
so thank you. As ways, there are the nasty people
who scream into the void with their negativity, desperate for
(09:13):
relevance and acknowledgment. Yep, texting hate it me for achieving
something hard that I didn't think I could achieve. Well,
new people, you are what is wrong with this country?
The first and much larger group who reach out to
celebrate someone's success. What is right with the country? And look,
running a marathon was harder than I thought, and I
(09:34):
thought it would be very hard. So I have so
much admiration for those who do it so much better
than me. And there were so many people, and there
was people in their seventies. And there's something about doing
an organized run like that, where people have worked hard
to get to that day and they're all doing it,
and they're out early in the morning and they're trying
(09:54):
something really hard. There's something quite beautiful about it. It's
that sort of shared shared spirit. And you know, you
do things not because they're easy, but because they're hard.
And you could just go out your door and run
a forty two k if you you don't have to pay,
so you don't have to I was thinking about I
threw it flew one thousand kilometers and paid three hundred
(10:16):
and fifty bucks or something to run forty two kilometers
in Queenstown and then throw it, flew a thousand flew
one thousand kilometers back. Yeah, when I could have just
run out the door.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Actually, he's completely tooed me around on this now. There
was a stupid thing to do. It was really dumb.
Why would you do that? Mental? I am a Glenn Hart.
I mean you could ask why do I keep doing this?
I suppose, I mean I've got nothing else to do,
I mean other than prepare for the countries most listened
(10:47):
to radio show. Other than that, though, why wouldn't they
be doing this? And I'll do it again Tomorrow's here then.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Used Talking doors it Bean for more from news Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
Here's with your today's news. I am Glenn Hart and
we are looking back at Monday. The CGT Apparently everybody
wants it congestion charges. I don't think anybody wants those,
(00:48):
do they? Nobody wants Scott Robertson to be the Albert's
coach anymore. And there was an up swell of support
for Matt Heath's marathon run and also an up swell
of hate for it as well, which is weird. But
(01:09):
before any of that, if polls they keep doing these poles?
Why do they keep doing these poles? Have these people
got nothing better to do?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Labor has some policies, albeit three, but they include the
contentious one, the capital gains tax, and they will love
how this has played for them so far, because so
far it actually hasn't been a terrible mess. So now
that Labor has policies confirming they are indeed a party
of more tax and more spend, the numbers should in
theory be turning, but they're not. The latest IPSOS poll
(01:41):
shows voters trust Labor more on the economy and cost
of living than National. Basically everything except foreign affairs and
law and order, and foreign affairs is Winston Peters. So
not great for the coalition, We're not great for National.
I should say the economy should turn around, green shoots
next year, et cetera, et cetera. How many times have
we been told that? But people just aren't feeling it yet.
(02:04):
So National strategy for weight and hope till November next year,
which is like when they're going to go to the polls.
It's looking riskier by the day. As for the leadership question,
Jacinda didn't teach us much about leadership, but we did
learn something important from her, and that is you can
switch leaders really close to an election day and not
crash your vote. In fact, you can actually increase it.
(02:25):
So and eleventh hour switched to Stanford or Bush or whoever,
will remain a live option I think right up until
D day.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So yeah, it's easy to And obviously I sit here
listen to my hosting all morning and he's very disparaging
of these sorts of polls and tells everybody not to
take any notice of them and questions their methodology, And
(02:53):
but what if they're right? What if people do actually
trust labor would be economy? Has that ever happened?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
News talk has been yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And so anyway, people are just loving the idea of
a capital gains das. So does that mean that there
are more people without investment properties than there are with?
Is that what? That's an indicator?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Ole In areas where people are doing well, you know,
where house prices haven't caved, haven't collapsed, there's more support
for it. In areas are so less support for in
areas that are feeling poor because their house prices have
fallen through the floor, they don't like it so much.
So basically you have a squeezed middle voter telling you
(03:38):
in Auckland, probably telling you that they feel too poor
to support another tax. And so you end up with
this fight between people who like the sound of an
idea and people who feel it will threaten their chance
of getting wealthier or growing wealth. And then you've got
to ask yourself, will the tax do what it says
on the label? Will it pay for millions of extra
(03:59):
doctor visits? You know where? Will these doctors magically appear from.
Does the party that is offering this utopia have a
good track record with delivering on promises, particularly if they
tell you how much but not really how quite important.
You could look at this pole and you could think
it's a win for the Capital Gains because it sort
(04:20):
of is soort off. But there is plenty of fodder
for an anti Capital Gains campaign, which is no doubt
being workshopped by some ad agency in gray Lynn for
the National Party as we speak.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Hang on, was
that two lots of Ryan Bridge in a row? Yeah,
it's a new thing that we're trying out where it's
just an or Ryan Monday. How did you feel about that?
I think we had him on every show yesterday and
well why wouldn't we talk it tired today? Yeah? That
(04:57):
sounds like how it work right. Congestion charges? Where are
we at with these? Are these ever actually going to
happen here?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Sure? Put a congestion tax on in London? But really Auckland, Hello,
really tow Runger Tow Hunger is our most taxed roading system.
Got a couple of them there? You had the k
road ages ago, did it work or Wellington, and I'll
talk more about Wellington later because today's a big day
(05:25):
for Wellington transport. The fact of the matter, if you
don't like the congestion tax, is all we had to
do was provide alternatives to the car. They were affordable
and efficient. But every time we talked about public transport
options or alternate modes or god for bid, psycle ways,
they've always been shouted down by people who think we
still live in a rural village and not of modern
(05:47):
cities and we should all have the human right to
drive from Dorset to doorstep. Well, that's a lack of foresight,
is it not, because we kept on growing and growing
and growing. Unfortunately, transportation, like public transport is the answer,
because there's very little room for more roads. But then
again we'll have to figure out how to pay for
(06:09):
that transport system, and again that will fall on you
and me and our wallets, just the same as with
any tax. But at the moment, unbelievably under a national
leg coalition, another tax is coming. And do you think
our roads are going to suddenly clear out?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I don't yep.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
People have still got to get to work. That was
Andrew Dickens not Kerrie Woodham. He's back again today being
Ryan Bridge. Are you following? So Ryan Bridge was Ryan Bridge?
But then it's all getting a bit confusing, isn't it.
Music Now the all boats absolutely smashed by England and
(06:53):
the weekend and it's all Scott Robertson's spout. I just
feel like since he stopped breakdancing and he just hasn't
had the results, he just needs to dance again. Let
him let himself go again.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Marcus couldn't be where we saw losers. Marcus. Imagine if
a specially design computer program read the text to reduce
the workload, but you could interrupt and committed any time.
All Black's not the same anymore. Why do the assistants
quit Razia should stick to the breakdancing? Well, of course
the breakdancing was his job. It's probably something he did
(07:24):
four or five times. But do you want to judge
him for that because people continually do which is kind
of weird to me. But that's something a comment about
New Zealand sports following public. They'll forgive a lot of things,
but not breakdancing, which is weird, isn't it. Wow? Do
you think the things that people do they'll never forgive you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, no, he's not. He's got it all wrong. I'm
not saying he should. I'm not saying that was a
dumb thing to do, the breakdancing. I'm saying that is
why the Crusaders were so winny because of the breakdancing.
He's got it round the wrong way. And ever since
he stopped breakdancing, it's been all over the place. It's
(08:10):
obvious people have got it all wrong. The more breakdancing
Razor does, I believe, the more successful the all Blacks
will be. It's science.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
News talk Z been now.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Matt Heath was one of the thousands who popped down
to Queenstown over the weekend for the marathon down there.
I'm not sure if he was up to break dancing
when he completed.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
It.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Weird to hear that some people felt obliged to not
give him a message of support, but a message of well,
not support.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Hey, I just want to say thank you so much
for your lovely messages on me finishing the marathon on
the weekends. So nice of people to text through those messages.
It was hard and I'm shagged and sore two days later,
but to get those nice messages has made my day,
so thank you. As ways, there are the nasty people
who scream into the void with their negativity, desperate for
(09:13):
relevance and acknowledgment. Yep, texting hate it me for achieving
something hard that I didn't think I could achieve. Well,
new people, you are what is wrong with this country?
The first and much larger group who reach out to
celebrate someone's success. What is right with the country? And look,
running a marathon was harder than I thought, and I
(09:34):
thought it would be very hard. So I have so
much admiration for those who do it so much better
than me. And there were so many people, and there
was people in their seventies. And there's something about doing
an organized run like that, where people have worked hard
to get to that day and they're all doing it,
and they're out early in the morning and they're trying
(09:54):
something really hard. There's something quite beautiful about it. It's
that sort of shared shared spirit. And you know, you
do things not because they're easy, but because they're hard.
And you could just go out your door and run
a forty two k if you you don't have to pay,
so you don't have to I was thinking about I
threw it flew one thousand kilometers and paid three hundred
(10:16):
and fifty bucks or something to run forty two kilometers
in Queenstown and then throw it, flew a thousand flew
one thousand kilometers back. Yeah, when I could have just
run out the door.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Actually, he's completely tooed me around on this now. There
was a stupid thing to do. It was really dumb.
Why would you do that? Mental? I am a Glenn Hart.
I mean you could ask why do I keep doing this?
I suppose, I mean I've got nothing else to do,
I mean other than prepare for the countries most listened
(10:47):
to radio show. Other than that, though, why wouldn't they
be doing this? And I'll do it again Tomorrow's here then.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Used Talking doors it Bean for more from news Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
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