June 9, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Can't We Just Do It Case By Case?/We're Not Paying for Their Jackets/Too Old to Change?/Weather and Power/Where In the World Is Adrian Orr
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
We've got a report out on what schools spent.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Their money on, and some people think that they shouldn't
have spent them on some of the things that they
spend it on. Have you changed your career as a
mature person at a certain age. This is making me
feel uncomfortable the subject. It's cold, don't worry. I don't
think we're talking about the weather. I think we're talking
(00:58):
about electricity and where in the world is Adrian or
that's the game everybody who loves to play. But before
any of that, the parent boost visa. I don't really
understand this. We're going to be perfctly honest.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
If parents of migrants can come here at no cost
to taxpayers, is there an issue? Is there a problem?
You know, parents are going to be able to pay
for their health care if they have an income, if
the sponsors their children are going to be looking after them.
(01:37):
They're going to be contributing in terms of helping up
with the childcare, helping up with support. It's going to
make it a lot more attractive than new migrants coming
here bringing their skills and not knowing if they're ever
going to be able to get their parents over here.
It's so much better than a lottery system. I think
(02:00):
it makes perfect sense. I would be really wary there
were any cracks or gaps they could fall through that
would mean expensive healthcare was going to be provided by
the New Zealand taxpayer. But it looks like any possibility
(02:21):
of that happening has been excluded with the healthcare coverage
and with the requirement that before they can come back,
they have to show that that health coverage has been maintained.
As there is absolutely no cost to the taxpayer, where
is the harm?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I don't think they're coming over here and depriving
us of anything, are they? And they're just going to
be sort of buying stuff, a paying rent or buying
houses and that sort of thing. Isn't that supposed to
(03:02):
be good? An't we supposed to have more people? Like
I said, everybody understand us talk Z been right. So
principles are spending their budgets on leaving parties.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's always that's always an attention grab. But if a
dog was, wasn't it the old leaving party. I don't
know if I've got a massive problem with the Jackets
for being on school patrol.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Though, fifty four schools in total spent money on weird
things like gym memberships, pilates, classes, sports events, nutritional consultations,
adventure tourism, guided walks, and overseas family travel. And when
the union found out about it, they said, oh, look,
it's very stressful being a principal. They need to spend
money on this kind of thing. Now all of this
(03:54):
has come to light because the Auditor General has finally
gone through the books of some of these schools. Sometimes
these schools have not been audited in something like nine years.
The problem, of course, is that when we see stuff
like this, we lose faith in our educators, kind of
in the same way that we're when we see charities
wasting money. We lose faith in charities and don't want
to give them any more money. Now I don't know
about you, but I already have a pretty high degree
(04:15):
of suspicion when I hear educators complaining about what's going on. Oh,
they don't have enough money for the MOULDI classrooms, or
they don't have enough money to feed the kids, or
they don't have enough money to buy devices for pupils.
I already suspect that they're prone to exaggeration, but now
I will be even more sure that they're prone to
exaggeration because I don't know about you, but I bring
(04:36):
my own jacket to work, don't you.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, but when Heather gets here, she doesn't have to
wear it. She's not doing the show outside in the rain,
when you're on duty, out in the playground at lunchtime,
or like I say, you're supervising road patrol. I mean
(04:59):
I know that. Certainly the kids get coats for road patrol.
My kids used to do road patrol. Yeah. I don't
have a mess problem with that. Let's not get too
carried away with the digging into the nitty gritty of
this stuff. And also, don't say pilarates like polaratees.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Pilarates. It is expensive, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Pilarates?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I do pilarates. This is why I'm defending it via
the Apple Fitness at which probably weeks out a lot
cheaper made that subscription. Maybe they should they see then
people would go, what what are these teachers getting Apple
Fitness subscriptions for?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
When can you you talk?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
SI?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Have you had to change your career? You know, this
is not people who've only just started out. In the
movie was this is and people who've been doing it
for quite a long time. This is what they were
talking about yesterday afternoon. It gives me the screaming hebgb's
that's just the thought of it.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
You had a bit of a change at fifty one.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Hi, I yeah, I was just thinking forever, like twenty
plus years. And then I am my business for a
little while. And now I work as a wholesale in
the signage industry and it's a completely new industry and
I'm learning hates and I love it. I probably love
it more than I stood thinking it's great people and
I'm twfty one and I'm in the middle of menopause.
(06:26):
I don't remember anything, but I'm learning hate for so
these people that are texting saying you can't change skills,
they need to look at themselves.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
I think, Yeah, I mean that's pretty rough to give
up at forty. I mean you should. I mean Lewis
Hamilton's over forty and he's still worsing if won you
know he's forty.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder you Yeah, I'm just having a
real We look back at their text, and you're right,
they can absolutely learn new skills. But I wonder if
they they say that they weren't given a fear go
after forty did you find you were given a fear
go when you wanted.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
To judge through?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Given a fair go?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Totally? She sounds like a go get it, doesn't she pit?
I don't think she was ever going to have any problems.
She's fifty one. I'm fifty one. I think I just
walk into the ocean if I've ever had to change
for ears, to be honest, can be bothered.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
With that spy.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's not really the right time of year to be
walking into the ocean, is it. It's chilly?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's right now. You start thinking, though, isn't it? How
much is all this going to cost?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Me?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And the answer because I checked this morning the power bill,
the answer was for May two hundred and fifty dollars
for a house of two people, one dog, already we've
spent seventy dollars for June, which what are we the
ninth of June at the moment. This is one of
the few bills that I actually pay in our household,
so it's one of the few that I really notice.
It's not going through the roof tracking roughly the same
(08:01):
as last year. And disclaimer for those of you thinking
this is an outrageous amount, our place is old and cold,
pretty poorly ventilated, and basically you need either aircorn in
the summer on all the time or heat in the winter.
There is good news on the energy front though for
twenty twenty five, not that it directly affects US all
more than big industrial users, but by virtue of that
(08:23):
US ALL Forsythe bar released an energy note on Friday.
They reckon we'll avoid another big energy crunch this winter,
but we will return to one in twenty twenty six.
So no blackouts for twenty twenty five, which is good.
The reason we've avoided this is because the electricity producers
did to deal with methodex and we've had rain, so
the hydrolinks have been given a top up. To avoid
(08:45):
future blackouts, we'll need to cut industrial demand, which is
not great for business, and burn more coal, and that
brings us to gas, a shortage of which caused last
year's energy price crunch. Forsythe bar Reckons, the government's push
for gas is actually unlikely to solve our problems. It
takes two to three years to get a gas field
(09:06):
up and running first year after fire it. Right now,
nobody's even looking. No gas fields are being explored. By
the time you get gas out of the government's two
hundred million dollar budget buy in, the energy shortages will
likely have passed. It's one thing to let the producers
go it alone and risk their investment in capital. It's
(09:28):
another to put our money on the line to develop
these fields. There's a genuine question about whether this is
smart investment in our future or if taxpayer money is
being wasted here A bit like the heat escaping from
my old house.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Quite frank with how much he's paying for power at
his house?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Is he?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Because it's amazing what you can deduce from that, like
what's going on there, the number of occupants, And feel
like we're spending a lot of money on power at
the moment at my place. Too many visitors. We need
to crack down on the visitors coming over and using.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Our power news talk.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Has it been going to finish up here trying to
find Adrian? Or we just want an explanation, mate. I
think is this being driven by Mike Hosking or other
people interested?
Speaker 9 (10:19):
Did he founce off in a huff? Was he upset
with the new government or was he pushed by Nikola willis?
What went down? Why would you go? It's in the
public interest, But every time we ask, we're stonewalled. We
were promised to answer last Friday, but nothing came through.
(10:43):
Apparently more and more people need to be consulted about
what why? Who knows? They just won't tell us the truth.
And the reason this gets my goat is that we
paid for all of us. We pay for the politicians,
we pay for the public service. They all get salaries
(11:04):
that would make you jealous, would make your eyes water.
We pay for the Reserve Bank. We pay hundreds and
hundreds of millions of dollars for all these people involved
in the saga. View it like we're the shareholders and
the CEO and the board and the employees have decided
(11:25):
we don't need to know what happened with something that
we pay for you.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
See, I don't want to think about it like that.
I'm a shareholder. It's more like it's a trust for me.
They just look after it. I don't want to be involved.
I'll have to think about it. Yeah, I don't want to.
(11:54):
I don't like I don't want any responsibility. That's what
I'm saying. That's what I'm paying for, is for somebody
else to be responsible. You can see how, you can
see why I don't want to change. Career is half
way through. Hands off, that's me. But I will be
hands on this podcast again to morrow. I'll see you then.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Talking Talking has it been.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
For? More from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
We've got a report out on what schools spent.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Their money on, and some people think that they shouldn't
have spent them on some of the things that they
spend it on. Have you changed your career as a
mature person at a certain age. This is making me
feel uncomfortable the subject. It's cold, don't worry. I don't
think we're talking about the weather. I think we're talking
(00:58):
about electricity and where in the world is Adrian or
that's the game everybody who loves to play. But before
any of that, the parent boost visa. I don't really
understand this. We're going to be perfctly honest.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
If parents of migrants can come here at no cost
to taxpayers, is there an issue? Is there a problem?
You know, parents are going to be able to pay
for their health care if they have an income, if
the sponsors their children are going to be looking after them.
(01:37):
They're going to be contributing in terms of helping up
with the childcare, helping up with support. It's going to
make it a lot more attractive than new migrants coming
here bringing their skills and not knowing if they're ever
going to be able to get their parents over here.
It's so much better than a lottery system. I think
(02:00):
it makes perfect sense. I would be really wary there
were any cracks or gaps they could fall through that
would mean expensive healthcare was going to be provided by
the New Zealand taxpayer. But it looks like any possibility
(02:21):
of that happening has been excluded with the healthcare coverage
and with the requirement that before they can come back,
they have to show that that health coverage has been maintained.
As there is absolutely no cost to the taxpayer, where
is the harm?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I don't think they're coming over here and depriving
us of anything, are they? And they're just going to
be sort of buying stuff, a paying rent or buying
houses and that sort of thing. Isn't that supposed to
(03:02):
be good? An't we supposed to have more people? Like
I said, everybody understand us talk Z been right. So
principles are spending their budgets on leaving parties.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's always that's always an attention grab. But if a
dog was, wasn't it the old leaving party. I don't
know if I've got a massive problem with the Jackets
for being on school patrol.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Though, fifty four schools in total spent money on weird
things like gym memberships, pilates, classes, sports events, nutritional consultations,
adventure tourism, guided walks, and overseas family travel. And when
the union found out about it, they said, oh, look,
it's very stressful being a principal. They need to spend
money on this kind of thing. Now all of this
(03:54):
has come to light because the Auditor General has finally
gone through the books of some of these schools. Sometimes
these schools have not been audited in something like nine years.
The problem, of course, is that when we see stuff
like this, we lose faith in our educators, kind of
in the same way that we're when we see charities
wasting money. We lose faith in charities and don't want
to give them any more money. Now I don't know
about you, but I already have a pretty high degree
(04:15):
of suspicion when I hear educators complaining about what's going on. Oh,
they don't have enough money for the MOULDI classrooms, or
they don't have enough money to feed the kids, or
they don't have enough money to buy devices for pupils.
I already suspect that they're prone to exaggeration, but now
I will be even more sure that they're prone to
exaggeration because I don't know about you, but I bring
(04:36):
my own jacket to work, don't you.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, but when Heather gets here, she doesn't have to
wear it. She's not doing the show outside in the rain,
when you're on duty, out in the playground at lunchtime,
or like I say, you're supervising road patrol. I mean
(04:59):
I know that. Certainly the kids get coats for road patrol.
My kids used to do road patrol. Yeah. I don't
have a mess problem with that. Let's not get too
carried away with the digging into the nitty gritty of
this stuff. And also, don't say pilarates like polaratees.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Pilarates. It is expensive, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Pilarates?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I do pilarates. This is why I'm defending it via
the Apple Fitness at which probably weeks out a lot
cheaper made that subscription. Maybe they should they see then
people would go, what what are these teachers getting Apple
Fitness subscriptions for?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
When can you you talk?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
SI?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Have you had to change your career? You know, this
is not people who've only just started out. In the
movie was this is and people who've been doing it
for quite a long time. This is what they were
talking about yesterday afternoon. It gives me the screaming hebgb's
that's just the thought of it.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
You had a bit of a change at fifty one.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Hi, I yeah, I was just thinking forever, like twenty
plus years. And then I am my business for a
little while. And now I work as a wholesale in
the signage industry and it's a completely new industry and
I'm learning hates and I love it. I probably love
it more than I stood thinking it's great people and
I'm twfty one and I'm in the middle of menopause.
(06:26):
I don't remember anything, but I'm learning hate for so
these people that are texting saying you can't change skills,
they need to look at themselves.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
I think, Yeah, I mean that's pretty rough to give
up at forty. I mean you should. I mean Lewis
Hamilton's over forty and he's still worsing if won you
know he's forty.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder you Yeah, I'm just having a
real We look back at their text, and you're right,
they can absolutely learn new skills. But I wonder if
they they say that they weren't given a fear go
after forty did you find you were given a fear
go when you wanted.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
To judge through?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Given a fair go?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Totally? She sounds like a go get it, doesn't she pit?
I don't think she was ever going to have any problems.
She's fifty one. I'm fifty one. I think I just
walk into the ocean if I've ever had to change
for ears, to be honest, can be bothered.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
With that spy.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's not really the right time of year to be
walking into the ocean, is it. It's chilly?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's right now. You start thinking, though, isn't it? How
much is all this going to cost?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Me?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And the answer because I checked this morning the power bill,
the answer was for May two hundred and fifty dollars
for a house of two people, one dog, already we've
spent seventy dollars for June, which what are we the
ninth of June at the moment. This is one of
the few bills that I actually pay in our household,
so it's one of the few that I really notice.
It's not going through the roof tracking roughly the same
(08:01):
as last year. And disclaimer for those of you thinking
this is an outrageous amount, our place is old and cold,
pretty poorly ventilated, and basically you need either aircorn in
the summer on all the time or heat in the winter.
There is good news on the energy front though for
twenty twenty five, not that it directly affects US all
more than big industrial users, but by virtue of that
(08:23):
US ALL Forsythe bar released an energy note on Friday.
They reckon we'll avoid another big energy crunch this winter,
but we will return to one in twenty twenty six.
So no blackouts for twenty twenty five, which is good.
The reason we've avoided this is because the electricity producers
did to deal with methodex and we've had rain, so
the hydrolinks have been given a top up. To avoid
(08:45):
future blackouts, we'll need to cut industrial demand, which is
not great for business, and burn more coal, and that
brings us to gas, a shortage of which caused last
year's energy price crunch. Forsythe bar Reckons, the government's push
for gas is actually unlikely to solve our problems. It
takes two to three years to get a gas field
(09:06):
up and running first year after fire it. Right now,
nobody's even looking. No gas fields are being explored. By
the time you get gas out of the government's two
hundred million dollar budget buy in, the energy shortages will
likely have passed. It's one thing to let the producers
go it alone and risk their investment in capital. It's
(09:28):
another to put our money on the line to develop
these fields. There's a genuine question about whether this is
smart investment in our future or if taxpayer money is
being wasted here A bit like the heat escaping from
my old house.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Quite frank with how much he's paying for power at
his house?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Is he?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Because it's amazing what you can deduce from that, like
what's going on there, the number of occupants, And feel
like we're spending a lot of money on power at
the moment at my place. Too many visitors. We need
to crack down on the visitors coming over and using.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Our power news talk.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Has it been going to finish up here trying to
find Adrian? Or we just want an explanation, mate. I
think is this being driven by Mike Hosking or other
people interested?
Speaker 9 (10:19):
Did he founce off in a huff? Was he upset
with the new government or was he pushed by Nikola willis?
What went down? Why would you go? It's in the
public interest, But every time we ask, we're stonewalled. We
were promised to answer last Friday, but nothing came through.
(10:43):
Apparently more and more people need to be consulted about
what why? Who knows? They just won't tell us the truth.
And the reason this gets my goat is that we
paid for all of us. We pay for the politicians,
we pay for the public service. They all get salaries
(11:04):
that would make you jealous, would make your eyes water.
We pay for the Reserve Bank. We pay hundreds and
hundreds of millions of dollars for all these people involved
in the saga. View it like we're the shareholders and
the CEO and the board and the employees have decided
(11:25):
we don't need to know what happened with something that
we pay for you.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
See, I don't want to think about it like that.
I'm a shareholder. It's more like it's a trust for me.
They just look after it. I don't want to be involved.
I'll have to think about it. Yeah, I don't want to.
(11:54):
I don't like I don't want any responsibility. That's what
I'm saying. That's what I'm paying for, is for somebody
else to be responsible. You can see how, you can
see why I don't want to change. Career is half
way through. Hands off, that's me. But I will be
hands on this podcast again to morrow. I'll see you then.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Talking Talking has it been.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
For? More from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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