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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andrew Heral Jason Pine, good morning, Good Mike, Jason. As
good as it gets.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Surely, what are we talking about, Mike, give us a clue.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Well, I'm thinking the rugby, Jason.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was a It was a terrific Test match. It
was a magnificent battle, a lot of great layers to
a huge crowd. Arty's one hundredth but of rain to
make things a little bit more interesting to defend the fortress. Yeah,
it was a terrific occasion. He's a South African fans. Yeah,
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not much really that you can complain about, and the
the undefeated streak at Eden Park continues.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, spent. Do you enjoy taking Andrew?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It was fantastic, Mike.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Mean, I've been to a lot of Test matches at
Eden Park over what nearly thirty years plus. I don't
think I've ever seen fans arrived so early. I don't
think I've ever seen so many away team jerseys in
the crowd or that amount of support for the away team.
And I thought, whoever came up with the idea to
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have the schools choir door the anthems needs a massive
pat on the back.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
They were simply superb and that's outstanding.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I mean that I was on the sideline watching the
anthems talk about spine tingling and then the Harker. The
light show where they dim the lights and put the
spotlights on the Harker and the anthem singers is a
great idea. Just it just had that real buzz to it.
When the All Blacks came out to warm up just
behind us, I could see the look in their eyes
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if to say, this is our home turf. We are
not going to lose tonight, And that was evident on
the field.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was you need to bottle that, Jason, because this
is the problem, isn't it. You know, how was it
you lose to Argentine, I get it away and all
that sort of stuff. But I mean, they are capable
of clearly beating anybody and being the best side in
the world. It's just a matter of bottling that up
for the appropriate time, appropriate ground, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, Consistency, isn't it. It's that it's that search for
consistency that all elite sports teams are really looking for.
And you're right, and that the great thing about it
is that we get the opportunity now to see whether
the all Blacks can do that because in what five
days from now they do it all again, it won't
be as big an occasion with everything that sav mentioned,
you know, in everything that was wrapped around this this
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Eden Park thing the other night in Wellington, but it
can still be a great opportunity for Scott, Robertson and
Cod to say, right, we are you know, good enough
to win back to back Test matches against South Africa
put Argentina behind us. Just on Razor as well, Mike,
you know he had massive pressure on him last week,
you know, watching him in media sessions and and just
the way he was he was carrying himself.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
He was under enormous pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You do not want to be the coach who oversees
the end of the unbeaten run at Eden Park off
the back of being the first coach ever to lose
a Test match in Argentina. And I saw him afterwards
on the field on Saturday night and it was relief
and elation on his face, but mainly relief.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I think, yeah, it's fantastic, you know, I watched it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Just just on just on the just on the attitude. Mic.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I think, as we've as we've mentioned on the show
a thousand times at that level. It's it's it's the
little mental motivational factors that can sometimes win new games.
There was obviously the Eden part factor. Ardie Savvey is
one hundredth can't be underestimated. The guys the players played
for him, that's for sure. As well. I think the
influence of Sir Wayne Smith during the week can't be
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underestimated as well, bringing a calming influence to everyone around him.
But yeah, just a now the key challenges lifting again
for Wellington and finding those little motivating factors again, apart
from playing for the All Blacks obviously finding those little
factors again to lift again.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, exactly now, I said to raise it just last hour.
It's like it reminded me of the old days, Jason,
Like when you're a kid and New Zealand and rugby
was the thing because you didn't have as much to
do and life wasn't as complicated as it is now.
It had that about it, didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It, Oh I did?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean I spent most of last week in Auckland,
and you know sometimes when there's a Test match in
Auckland and there's so much going on in this city
that it can be swallowed up a little bit. But
everywhere you went from about Wednesday onwards and certainly on
the day and then around the Eden Park Sava's right.
There were people arriving at sort of three in the
afternoon for a seven o'clock kick on, and so many
South African fans, great banter.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
They really interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Thing one of them said to me on Saturday afternoon
was we can still play our best, or we can
play our best and still lose to the All Blacks.
And I think that's the beauty of this rivalry is
that you can be at the top of your game,
but you might still lose. I'm not saying South Africa
were They've got some things to work on, but it
was just a brilliant occasion.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
What are you going to watch the Saturday?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Have you got a class here?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I can't believe. Gee, the NRL doesn't make it easy
for them, does it. The Warriors a home playoff, a
real home playoff. Surely they should have played it on
Sunday afternoon. Would have thought so, and avoiding a clash
with your Okay, different cities, but similar times.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I just can't work out why they would.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Of course, from the NRL's point of view, what do
you care about rugby?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We think focus Yeah, they don't care about rugby rugby union.
They want to focus on Sydney too, and yeah, yeah
it's it's frustrating.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So here are the numbers, Fellas, eight hundred and sixty
eight thousand. These won't be released till eight thirty, but
I'm breaking the embargo just for you guys. Eight hundred
and sixty eight thousand watched it. Another two hundred thousand
they thought or reckon at the bars. So you've got
over a million people there, four hundred and eighty thousand
of those on streaming. So that's the biggest audience for
a all black South Africa game since the World Cup
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of twenty three. So it is still the sport that
we reckoned with, which is good.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So a lot of interest yet yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Exactly, Back Jason to the Warriors worse. I mean, what
a miserable way to end the season. Under different circumstances
would be thrilled. You know, for the thirty one years
I followed this side. Most years to get to the playoffs,
you can't believe you luck so you're in. But this
year to disappointment and we play the Panthers, and you know,
can we beat them? Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Will we? Yeah? Tough, real tough. And you're right, Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean if you'd said at the start of the season,
I think I said this a couple of weeks ago,
said to Warriors fans, will finished sixth, they would have
taken that in a heartbeat, absolute heartbeat. But given the
way they were playing in the middle part of the season,
just before the injuries, when Luke Metcalf got injured, you know,
and this was a top four side for a long time,
and now we're looking at a situation where maybe the
season's only elongated by one week because the Panthers, as
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we know what, four time defending champions, they might not
be the force they have been in recent years, but
they're still a tough proposition. And the Warriors kind of
limp into the playoffs off the back of two straight
defeats to teams who aren't even in the top So look, yeah,
but but but on the flip side, you say, right,
you clean the slate. It's a new season of sorts,
a shorter season, lose petition now nothing to lose.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'd go healthy that you got.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The problem is, yeah, nothing to lose.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, but the problem is might the way they're playing,
they could probably be be beaten by any of the
other seven teams. If they're playing anybody.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I wish I could play differently, But I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Well, they've got home advantage. Look, if they were at
full strength home advantage, you give them a chance against Penrith.
But they're missing still obviously a couple of key players
here in the year and Penrith, look, as we've discussed them,
the mental motivation at this level, Penrith will be wanting
to win the title outside the top there, right, they
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haven't done they haven't done.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right, Say the Panthers beat us and then they go
on and win the rietis right, that's that's that's the greatest
premiership victory in the history of rugby league.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Isn't it.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah? Probably, well close. Yeah, I'll give us a chance.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I'll give us a chance.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Look of course, Well, I mean they'll they'll have some
players on the field and they'll be a kickoff.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So you know, Jackson forward back, rock was such a
James z rock o'berry go off again.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Man, he's a terrible luck.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But yeah, Jackson forward back, that's a plus. Who knows,
big crowd obviously in coming. Shame about the class with
the all blacks, but they'll still fill go media on
and who knows.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Did you see the ren Philly Shield sef What I mean, jeez?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I saw little snippets of it year.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What you were, well, they sort of. It's a highlights game.
It just went ding d every time you look, ding
more points points points. This is a I reckon. This
is another of these eras coming, isn't it? Because if
you look at the latter, Canterbury are very good.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yep, they won it for so many years and around
the last couple of seasons has been a bit wobbly
and now now they're is it Tasman on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yes, I don't care, it doesn't matter. I will win.
What's it matter?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Hey, Black black Ferns, Mike black Ferns forty nil this morning?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Are you excited? Honestly, Jason? Are you honestly exciting by
thrashing after threshing, after threshing after threshing. I mean, what
a one sided competition?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, you're the one this morning. I'm more interested in
because Ireland have beaten us two of the last three times.
And to put forty on them and not concede. I
think it speaks of a team that's some pretty good neck.
And I watched the highlights this morning. Look, it's it's
all setting itself up for a final against England, South
Africa and the quarters probably Canada and the Semis and
then England in the final.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I think hopefully it ramps up. It's just so difficult
to watch at one thirty in the morning, isn't it. What.
It's terrible time for us over here.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Sooner and el correct all the things.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Mike is red Bull back?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, no, they're not. But what the really good story
out of this? And if you haven't seen the game,
well they might be. He might be. Red Bull aren't back.
I mean verstappens the thing. It's not the red Bull.
They swapped McLaren swapped Norris and Pastree for no other
reason than Norris had a bad pit stop and so
they said to be Astre swap back places Piastre quite
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rightly goes why and they said, well, we had a
bad pit stop and so we need him to come
second so that we can close up the gap in
the race. I mean, that's just that's rigging the sport,
isn't it Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And the other question for you is the most overrated
sports franchise in the world. Your team, the Dallas Cowboys.
Are they going to suck again?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
They are. They do suck. They No one sucks more
consistently than the Devias Cowboys. Watch that game. Here's the
problem with the YouTube. I watched the other YouTube game,
which was the Chiefs and the Chargers charges one in Brazil,
so that was a boilover. But more importantly, these people
who are buying these games, they've got no talent in
terms of commentary, because all the commentary talent is you know,
it's like you, Jason, It's like you know. TV three
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gets a bit of rugby and they need the top man.
It's you, and you're tied up. You're in contract. Pardon
so they hire some I'm sorry, Sam, but you know
we'd come to you eventually. But what I'm saying is what.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You need to do.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
What you need to do? Is it nine oh one? Yes,
Run down to your Maserati, get in it, race home,
click on TV and Z Plus and there's game Z
for you.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
On that games galore mate games Hey quickly, Oh no,
I don't have time. I'll have to raise it up
to break Nice to see you guys. I'll have to.
I'll have to. I'll have to offer a commentary on
my own comment That should be exciting Andrewcevel, Jason Paint.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
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