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August 24, 2025 10 mins

Jason Pine and Andrew Saville join Mike Hosking this morning to discuss the weekend's sports.

On the table today: The All Blacks suffered a defeat at the hands of Los Pumas in Argentina, is the criticism they're receiving justified? 

TVNZ is set to broadcast the NPC through the year, hopefully bringing attention to the local games.

And the Warriors defeated the Titans in Queensland to secure an important victory in the NRL.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jason Pin Andrews haveal good morning to you both morning.
May are we dumb and dirty? Jason? The way I'm
reading in the paper this.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Morning, interesting colin from Gregor Paul, who is a pretty
incisive analyst of the game. Look, I think when you
give up three yellow cards, all of them probably avoidable,
when you give away penalties and kickable positions, then I
guess you can say that you know they perhaps left
a little to be desired. The aerial game will be

(00:28):
talked about a lot. Why on Earth can't we compete
in the air? Personnel changes? Are there any coming for
the South African Test? A lot of questions for this
team as they jump on a plane back home.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Right, So let's get it on the record because Glenn's
winning this one so far. Sam and I are wrong.
I said two wins. Sam said two wins. Gleed said
one apiece. He's got two losses for South Africa. He's
got one apiece with Australia. Jason Pine of Wellington, New
Zealand call the rest of the series all.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Right, one apiece South Africa and both wins against Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Andrew I wouldn't be surprised Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Look, yes, the All Blacks are going to have to improve,
and we keep getting told that they're working on their
discipline and the aerial game each week, but it just
isn't improving. So they need to have a big turnaround
on that front. If they can do that, and if
they can play football that doesn't look absolutely confused at
the best of times, I think they could beat South

(01:23):
Africa twice here yep, and the Wallabe, so.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You say two and two.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm not one hundred percent sure about that, but that's
the way I'm leaning if. And the big if is
if they finally improve, because Mike, we've had five tests
this year and there's no sign of overall improvement.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I don't think no, you're that the whole warm into
it thing. I did raise you too, and you will
remember I did raise Boden Barracks kicking last week, did I?
Or did I not? And I was I was poo
pooed by. I think you, Andrew, you were the lead
poop poo who goes no, no, And I'm just thinking, well,
what happened there?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, you missed a few. But again, you can't pinet
just on him.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well you can because and I don't want to kick
him in when he's down.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
He got all on and there were a couple of
tricky ones from the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm sorry, tricky now, are they're all of a sudden
tricky are they? He left more points, more points on
the table than we lost by. If he'd got them.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
All if you'd got them all over, maybe argent well,
Argentina probably should have scored two or three more tries,
but they didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
They could have won by more.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
They should have won by more with the amount of
possession and territory they had, they should have beaten you
All Blacks by twenty thirty points.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I reckon you the All Blacks to win the next
four tests based on the first five of the year saved.
It's a pretty bold claim, mate.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
It is, actually, now I think about it. Put it
that way, Jason.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Sometimes we have to make bold claims, Jason as well.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's all on record. It's all on record.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
On the other hand, it could turn into an absolute disaster.
I heard I heard Sir Graham Henry on with you earlier, Mike,
and I think he was being was He's clearly mellowed
in his age because of his All Black team. Had
it been making the same mistakes and not improving after
five TC, he'd be stripping.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
He would word walls. Hey, by the way, sir, before
I forget, did you guys open the champagne? When you
got the the NPC deal on Friday with Sky you.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Were very happy about it, very happy about it.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think it will put clearly more eyeballs back on
provincial rugby and hopefully create more of interest and more
of a feeling around in PC, I hope. So there's
there's there's been some okay crowds in the provinces, but
in the big cities that they're not great.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I saw yesterday I saw some of that Otago game
whoever they were playing, and it looked like an ok
crowd to me. Having said, the only reason I'm fascinated
with Free to Wear now is that nine Channel nine
has got the EPL and they had a game was
a Manchester City playing whoever Manchester City were playing. They
had huge numbers. Like you put it on free to Wear,
there's no denying that it will get eyeballs and and interest.

(03:57):
So I think that that's probably positive.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
If and when we put Friday Night or a Saturday
night game on TV one next year?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Would you do that? What is Coronation Street going? What's
happening there?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Coronation Street can go on after the rugby.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Can it? I might be a bit tank to carry
on with it.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
You can stream it.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Oh okay, I'll come round and I'll help you download
the app.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Jason quick word on the women's rugby. I'm not excited
about Spain. Spain. We thrash, We did thrash them. Is
England the favorite and they deserve favorites?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yes, and yes, quite overwhelming favorites, I think, Mike. They
hardly ever lose a game. They were very impressive and
their first up when we seem to be on a
collision course to play them in the final. If we
make the final against England, absolute underdogs eighty two thousand,
TWI can be a huge day. But yeah, got to
get their first of course.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Okay, hey, Mike, just quickly back to the All Blacks.
I think I mentioned it last week. If I was
David Kirk the new chairm and I'd be on the
blow at Joe Schmidt straight away. Yeah, but not necessarily
to work, not necessarily become the All Blacks coach.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
All of a sudden, but.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Put him on a retainer, you reckon, Yeah, stroll.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think he would work.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
I don't think he would work with the current All
Blacks test group, but look at what he did in
twenty two twenty three with the All Blacks.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
He can't be lost and he's on a rug beat anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, David Kirk, David Kirk will be listening to this program.
He'll take now the Warriors, Andrew, I'm revisiting and I'm
increasingly embarrassed about my behavior in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I thought they were gone.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, I didn't think they were gone. They're always going
to make the playoffs and they could maybe maybe not
make the four. But they've turned a corner and that
was a good win. It wasn't just a win. It
was a Titans win and you can't underestimate that. And
I just think that things are coming right. Will they
book top sides. I'm still one hundred percent convinced that's true.
But we're we're bully, I mean, we're top four. We

(05:55):
will finish in the top four.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I think, well, when the last two games, I think
it the yields home this week, yes, them away, So Yeah,
they're looking good for the top four.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
But will that guarantee they move deep into the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, no, you play the top so so before we
play one, now that's our chance. Imagine, imagine if if
we play four and we play one and we beat one,
then we come back home, then we come back home.
It's all at that point, it's all on. Even if
we don't beat one, we come back home and it's
all on. Still.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
So did you did you see any of the two
games on Friday night?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I saw the highlights of one. But you those guys,
these guys are all falling over, They're all sort of like,
you know, Oh, they can't be beaten. Whoops, Yes they can.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
They Look, they were those two games. They were sensational games.
They were playoffs. I mean that Raiders Panthers game was
worthy of a Grand Final. Yes, the football, the football
is entertaining, it's attacking. So what are you saying we're
not up the Look at what listen you look at
what rugby unions become, and it's just bash bash bash bash.

(07:07):
Fifteen players fan out across the field bash bash bash.
Rugby league With thirteen on the field, there's more room
to move.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I agree with you. You're talking to the converted here, Jason.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I think will be in the four. Yep, I think
they'll be in the fourth. We'll beat the Eels, they'll
beat manly.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
But the top four and that includes Penrith who currently
I look at the table of seventh, but they feel
like a top four side. The Raider, Storm, Bulldogs, Panthers
just feel like a cut above. And watching them play
Friday Night there it felt having said that though I
thought the Warriors, I thought the Warriors were good the
other night without being great. They let those two too
late tries in, which will be I guess a little

(07:45):
bit of an annoyance to them, but you know they
they went there. I like the way Chanelle, Harris, Devita
and Tanner Boyd are starting to combine. Having Rocko Berry
back made a massive difference. Roger tivasishek man that guy,
I mean, what a player. I like the way they're going.
I think they'll get a fourth who knows from there a.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Ton of Boyd And why weren't they using him earlier
when old Luky couldn't kick a ball as he was
doing his bowden and person couldn't kick a ball to
save himself, got Pompy, got BOYD, got good kickers, why.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Not use them?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well, I think Luke metcalf is.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think he's the He was the clear number, the
clear number seven jersey wear until I got injured. So
hard to put boy down metcalf into the same team.
But I think Boyds, you know, has come through a
bit of a tough patch. I think he'll he'll continue
to flourish. Look, I'm looking forward to see what happens.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
And you're right, Mike.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
If they play the Raiders, for example, one v four
go to Caner, a very hard place to go and win.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know, all of a sudden you're a.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Game away from the Grand Finals, and that game is
at home, So yeah, anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I reckon.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Do they then get a playoff at home?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yes, they do? If the top four always end up
end up at home unless you play above. So in
other words, four players one, so you go one one
one is at home obviously, so once say we come
back home, we'll play I don't know, say seven or
eight or whatever. We're at home.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
And a good chance.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Damn straight, tell me how many. The only reason I'm
saying this is Vulteri Botas is going to get signed
by Cadillac. I've got Sugio Perez and Voltery Botas. By
the way, if one's back this coming week, So tell
me how many public saunas there are in Finland, either
of you go public public saunas and Finland fine.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I would say.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Population population five point five million, so, in other words,
exactly the same population as in New Zealand. How many
public saunas in Finland, sad go, I'd say a million,
one million, Jason like.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Seven hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Three point three million. Wow, there's your fun fact.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
It's a lot of sweat, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's a lot of sweat, but it's good for you.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
A lot of sweat and a lot of eucalyptus oil.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Nothing wrong with that. Nice to see you again.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Do you keep do you keep your eyes on? Ears
on vulchery bots on social media? It is very funny.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
He is extremely funny. And what was interesting about Botas
and Sergio Pirez is that they were going to go
with an experienced person plus a beginner. Looks like they're
going to go with two experienced, which would make them
the most experienced combination as far as it can work
out in the history of everyone for a new side anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Nice to hear from your mic happy days.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And you too, Andrew, and you too, Jason Pine.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
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