Full Show Podcast: 12 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic asking
breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue
and use togs, dead.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
B ming and welcome today the back when crackdown from
housing New Zealand. Another fluoride scrap is the gold price
leading to a new gold rush on the coast. The
rugby union and the lawyers, now that Ineos have bailed
politics wins. They of course Steve First, Richard Darneld. They
lined up from up shore as well, pasking We're into
it for Wednesday morning, seven past six. Now for a
sport that's hardly sizzling in a sports world, that is

(00:30):
the pain for New Zealand. Rugby has clearly got a
whole lot worse than the last twenty four hours. Inios
had a six year deal worth apparently forty eight million dollars.
That's about eight million bucks a year. They've walked three
years early and as a result of being sued by
the NZA. I don't blame them, Sir. Jim Radcliffe, interesting bloke.
He's involved if you don't know an English football through
Manchester United, Mercedes F one. He was involved in the
America's Cup with Ben Ainsley, but had subsequently fallen out.

(00:53):
I quite like his cars. I mean he wanted to
keep making the old land drove a Defender. When they
upgraded it a couple of years ago, he offered to
buy the designs. Landrover said no, so he invented his own,
a thing called the Grenadier, which, although no Landrover Defender,
is not a bad looking vehicle to run up a paddock.
I suppose you did ask whether Ratcliffe is even aware
of any of this, but my guess is yes, given

(01:13):
his performance at the football and the sailing, he's omnipresent question.
Has nz Are in Aenios's eyes, done something wrong? Have
they not delivered on some KPIs? For example? Is there
a counter case here? In what court? Is this to
be heard? How much time will it take and what
will it cost? Is it a World Trade Organization type
thing whereby it's off and not really worth a hassle

(01:33):
because nothing tangible comes out of it. Is it simply
one of those contracts where as much as you want
to put it down on paper, people and actions count
for more. And if you don't want to do business
then basically that's the end of that. The union O
the biggest losers, of course, and I do feel sorry
for them. No one at Aenios I suspect Gibbs the
monkeys about this. Ineos are a global player from F
one to EPL. The all Blacks, although big and Rugby,

(01:54):
aren't huge globally and whole the whole left is more
pressing for a sport, I would have thought than a
petrochemical company that brings in fifty five billion dollars a year. Recklifts. Yes,
he looks shabby at this point of the union. Cases correct,
and he's simply walked away from this, but a doubt
he's losing sleep.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Views of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Rom Trump World four Things for You One his terrific
executive order yesterday has a response from Britain.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
We saw if you like retaliatory measures being taken under
the first Trump administration. It feels to me that this
is an opportunity for the UK to exercise both cool
heads and a clear ride sensus to where the national
interest lies too.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
His idea that the war needs to win, hence the
Polish president weighing in.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I'm saying Russia must not win this war, which means
to me that Russia cannot draw benefits from this war.
This is the most important thing which has to be
obtained today by the international community.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Three is my JD is in Paris. All over the AI.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
We refuse to view AI as a purely disruptive technology
that will inevitably automate a way our labor force.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
We believe and.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
We will fight for policies that ensure that AI is
going to make our workers more productive.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
He's in a big what was it, a hall, a
cathedral at church of sort of unusual French setting is
very sort of you know, stylish and fangloment, but you
get a bit of an echo for the only fly
in the ointment of these pesky judges that keep stopping
him doing what he wants to do is firing federal employees.
Continues to be held up.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
Yeah, I got elected on making government better, more efficient
and smaller. I think it was a very generous bayout. Actually. Also,
if people don't show up to work, we have a
right to fire them.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Then back in Britain, not a good day for the
met as the court or a court has decided you
can't sack useless cops. The top cop doesn't get it.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
We now have no mechanism to read the metal. Officers
who are not fit to hold vetting, those who cannot
be trusted to work with women, or those who cannot
be trusted to enter the homes are thunderable people.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And if you missed it. In sport, Warren Gatlin has
found out that winning is kind of important if you
want to be a coach. Till now, Warren has always
felt that he was the right person to make that
change and to take the team forward.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know he no longer felt that.

Speaker 9 (04:08):
And when that happens, then you've got to look for
a new solution.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I finally update on that asteroid that might be probably
won't hit Earth, though they discovered it last year. A
lot of reported john this over the summer period suggested
there was one point three percent chance of a hit.
This is in twenty thirty two. If you want to
put it down in your calendar this morning, they've ungraded
the chances of a hitting Earth. It's now one in
forty three, which, if you do your mats is well,
it's two point three percent, so you're nervous. Currently, best

(04:35):
estimates have it at ninety meters wide, so quite an
asteroid which means if it did hit Earth, it could
destroy some twenty five hundred square miles. Yeah, really nervous.
We'll keep you place that betters in usual. The world
in ninety just be lined from Trump on the war
Ukraine maybe Russian someday Ukraine may be Russian someday. Putin's

(04:56):
just come out in the last hour or so and
goes here here to that. So what do you reckon
Lensky's made of that? Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
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Speaker 2 (05:12):
From our Democracy watch our good friends in Vanova who
have got themselves a new prime minister, Jotham Nappett is
his name. He was elected this week unopposed. They've got
problems of course with democracy and getting their back together
in general. He's the country's fifth prime minister in four years.
He's the head of the leader's party and that's the
party with the most seats, so that's a good sign.
But as coalition involves five political party, so we wish

(05:36):
him well. Fifteen past six, Right, I go my wealth
Andrew callorhead good morning to you. Yeah, money, Mike Volkan,
Steel isn't steel deragur at.

Speaker 10 (05:46):
The moment, Hey, just quickly anyos Mike. They've said overnight
that it's actually trading conditions for their European businesses, that
it's severely impacted by high energy costs, extreme carbon taxes.
They're talking about the de industrialization of Europe means they've
got to apply some cost saving measures.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So blame the carbon taxes six million out of fifty
five billion suddenly become a problem as it Really they've
got excuses. Yeah, let's talk about steel.

Speaker 10 (06:16):
Let's talk about steel. So we're working our way through
a US reporting season at the moment, but we're heading
into the Australasian reporting season as well. And Vulcan Steel
who released their half result yesterday. Now they're listed on
the ends at X billion dollar market capitalization. There are
steel and metals, processor and distributor. The thing is generally

(06:36):
they're exposed to the economic environment in New Zealand and Australia,
so it's not just the construction sector.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
They do all sorts of steel.

Speaker 10 (06:44):
And they're doing a pretty tough Mike. The revenue down
thirty percent, Earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, amortization, all that
sort of stuff down just over thirty percent from the
previous corresponding period, which means their first half profit is
sixty five percent lower. So this is Look, despite this
rising confidence that we saw to the end of twenty

(07:05):
twenty four, Mike, there are no signs of revival yet
in their volume. So the first six months of their
financial they've described them as variable challenging. Economic conditions in
both New Zealand and Australia have continued to be difficult.
They do make the comment that lower interest rates here
in New Zealand have boosted confidence for the future. But

(07:26):
my comments remain completely consistent here, Mike. This is the
activity right here and now is still not reflecting that
increased confidence. Look better times are coming. This evidence of that,
but it's probably second half of this year. Maybe start
to see some of that in the second quarter. But
Volgas actually their share price went up yesterday because they

(07:46):
are optimistic.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Good and so should we all be. Now that bond
tender that went gangbusters really isn't there's money out?

Speaker 11 (07:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, quick catch up on that.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
Yeah, we're discussed it yesterday. The order book or you know,
the amount of interest end up being over twenty billion dollars.
So those bonds are issued at four point six five percent,
so that's the interest rate the government pays per ann
for the next ten years. Five point five billion dollars
worth issued. That is a good result for the New
Zealand Debt Management Office.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And speaking of good results, come on ten dollars.

Speaker 10 (08:17):
Yeah, good news Wednesday by good news ways well, not
for the Rover Union, but another upgrade to the forecast
farm gate milk price, so good news headlines keep flowing
for the dairy sector. Westpac economists have revised up their
forecast to ten dollars thirty a kligram of milk solids.
You know, those global dairy trade prices they've held up.
We've got another auction next week, so we see what

(08:37):
happens there. Lower New Zealand dollars factoring into this as well.
You know, those recent prices have been helped by a
resurgence of interest from the Chinese and recent auctions. It's
been put down to restocking. We primarily see that and
whole milk powder. We assume though it's restocking that then
possible sort of start to wane. Ten dollars thirty is
above the Fonterra forecast of ten bucks would be a

(08:59):
record four car record payout. We go back to I
think it's twenty twenty two, nine dollars thirty. What's really
positive Mike here though, is that they're suggesting ten dollars
for the following season as well, so that strong cash
flow into the rural sector that would continue. Look, it's
one of our most prominent and influential green shoots.

Speaker 11 (09:18):
It's looking pretty solid.

Speaker 10 (09:20):
And the Westpac folks, they've been quite busy. They've releases
Economic overview overnight as well, promising signs of recovery for
tweenty twenty five two and a half percent GDP growth.
They do talk about the storm clouds and the picture
that refer to the trade will coming out of Trump
policy and gender uncertain how they will play out.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Not good news for New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (09:39):
In that economic overview, there are another one of the
banks still putting seven percent growth in house prices in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm still doubtful about that.

Speaker 11 (09:46):
I'm not on that.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm going to have a bet. You give me a number.
Let's have a bet. What you I got fifty dollars
for a lunch out? Actually you need tight hundred dollars
these days. Anyway, whatever it is for a long percent,
I think they're more right than so we are six
or seven. I think it'll be about right by the
end of the year. I'm saying under five, under five,
all right, it's about what are the numbers?

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Ye?

Speaker 11 (10:08):
The numbers? OHVI should we do the numbers?

Speaker 10 (10:11):
Yeah? Jerome Powell has been he's been talking overnight. He's
still in no hurry to change the infestrate settings there,
and he's skillfully avoiding questions about tariff and Trump. The
Dow Jones is up thirty three points forty four thousand,
five hundred and three.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's barely moved really.

Speaker 10 (10:25):
The S and P five hundred is down zero point
one eight percent, six O five five, the NASDAK nineteen
THOY six hundred and nineteen, it's down ninety five points,
about half a percent overnight. The forty two one hundred,
Game ten, small, game eight, triple seven the number there,
the nick A up fourteen three eighth one, Changhai compset
down four, the six as X two hundred barely moved

(10:48):
close at eight four eight four, and the ins andex
fifty we were up point three two percent. You stay
twelve thousand nine hundred and seventeen point five six five
five is key.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
We dollar against the US.

Speaker 10 (10:57):
Point eight to nine eighty six oussie point five four
sixty five uero point four five four three against the
pound Japanese yet eighty six point one six gold is
still as strong as knots two thousand, nine hundred and
three dot US dollars and brentcruit seven six dollars and
seventy five.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Cents tomorrow, Andreclo jmiowealth dot co dot z. The only
reason they I ask you to one hundred was because
Andrew's a big drinker. Now, can I offer you some
light in the spending front? I think I can. From
Kiwi Bank December through January, summer spending up two point
three percent. We're going for the cost conscious socializing and
we're prioritizing well being. Hospo cafe spending up three, Takeaways

(11:35):
up three point four, Restaurant and barbo down two point four,
Retail up three point five. That's Christmas overall retail though
down for the year zero point seven. This shift they
talk about this is experiences, events, social outings and getaways.
So it's good and bad, isn't it? Mixed bag six
twenty one, he read News Talk.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
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Speaker 2 (12:07):
Part of my reasoning behind the seven percent and the
bank being right for housing, is the government going to
move on the foreign buyers and once the foreign buyers
come back, you're going to get to real charge into
the marketplace. So we'll see what happens now. As regards
the aforementioned the Westpac, their view of our economy promising
signs of recovery in twenty twenty five is what they
say will take that we will see, say Westpac household

(12:28):
spending growing again, strengthening tourism, praise the lord, stabilizing house prices,
primary sector show signs of better times ahead. A combination
of lower interest rates, farm cost low and New Zealand
dollar high world prices is serendipitous for the farmers. Expect
stronger on farm investment. Spending in the regions should flow
through the urban centers. They don't know about the trade war,

(12:49):
but then nobody does. Inflation looks sept to remain between
two and three percent, and as Andrew pointed out, the
GDP about two and a half percent. I think all
in all will take that, won't we six twenty five.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
A trend now with the wimis warehouse for the home
of big brand free to.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
All on and open an Ai World. Elon and a
group of investors if you haven't caught up with us,
had to crack at the nonprofit by the nonprofit runs
open Ai. They want to buy it though, for ninety
seven point four billion US, which is about eight hundred
and fifty seven trillion New Zealand dollars. Sam Altman runs it.
Of course he once ran it with Elon. I don't
know if anyone knows that, but Elon and Sam ran
it together. But Elon bailed. Now Elon hates Sam, so

(13:26):
Sam's now trolling Elon, suggesting he'll count the a bit
by offering to buy x four nine point seventy four
billion US, so that won't have gone down that well.
He then went and did an interview did Sam with
Bloomberg and was asked about Elon. Open Air is not
for sale. The open Air mission is not for sale.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
Elon tries all sorts of things for a long time.
This is the let you know this Speak's episode. I
think he's probably just trying to slow us down. He
obviously is a competitor. It's you know, he's working hard
and he's raised a lot of money for AXAI, and
I wish he would just compete by building a better products.
But I think there's been a lot of tactics, many
many lawsuits, all sorts of other crazy stuff now this

(14:04):
and we'll try to just put I had done and
keep working. Probably his whole life is from a position
of insecurity. I feel for they go the building is
like a happy person.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I do feel friend. Okay, that just to background it,
so you know Xai is accounted to open Ai. Elon
and Sam once work together, got on together. Now that
it's all a big ego dick swinging exercise. Basically, Sally
Army have done their annual report and that's full of
misery and woe. Despite what west Pack will Taggia, they've

(14:31):
had a look at the at the doer side of
the economy.

Speaker 12 (14:35):
Back if they say you've done one where they've gone,
everything's awesome, if everybody's feeling.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Great, she'll as she'll house that opening questions and go
when was the last time you saw something good in
the New Zealand economy? So we'll do all of that.
We'll look at the rugby later on in the program,
and Mark and Gidy will do politics Wednesday after eight o'clock.
There's all part of the Mike Hosking Christmas There reduced
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Speaker 13 (15:00):
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Speaker 1 (15:08):
Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, finding the buyers others.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Can't you've togged headv.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Mike slightly off topic, but can you tell me why
this country doesn't report inflation month on month like other
OECD countries? And can we lobby for change? I've been
doing that for the last couple of years. It's a
very good question, and we don't basically because we're lazy
and we can't be bothered. I started a questioning Grant
robertson if you're a regular, you will know this happened
several years ago, and he goes, yeah, it's one of
those interesting issues I might look into, and they never
did know. Asked lux And about it. I've asked Nikola

(15:34):
about it, and no one seems to want to do anything.
There's no reason why we can't. It's just apparently we
don't want it twenty three minutes away from seventh King
of Jordan. Is that the White House as we speak.
He's one of those people who doesn't appear to like
the Riviera of Ghaza idea, which is unusual because Trump
did say that everyone loved the idea. So Trump's hosting

(15:55):
him as we speak Richard Arnold. Shortly meantime, we've got
our eighteenth annual State of the Nation Report from Sally's.
One fun fact is that more than four hundred thousand
people needed welfare support last year. That's the highest in
more than thirty years. Report author Paul Barber's with us. Paul,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Yeah, Mardynika, good to talk to you and you too.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I wanted to find some good news, and I've got
some good news in your report. Fewer Mari kids are
in state care as community based alternatives increase. This is excellent,
isn't it.

Speaker 9 (16:23):
Well, yes, it is one of those examples of the
good news that is in our report about how how
there are changes happening that can improve things for people.
But overall it's some afraid the earth. We're looking at
a fairly challenging time for our community.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Do you go in with a lens of negativity. And
I don't mean to be rude in saying that, but
for eighteen years I have been doing these stories, and
for eighteen years you've told us how miserable New Zealand is.
Is that productive?

Speaker 9 (16:50):
We were actually people have hoped in the Salvation Army,
and our report is about trying to focus on what's
actually making a difference of the people that we're working
with every day and in the communities. Is one hundred
and thirty five thousand people that come to the Salvation
Army seeking help and support. And we're looking at these
measurements to see both improvements and as well as to

(17:11):
be realistic about what's getting worse. Over the years, we've
certainly many many times we're able to identify lots of
positive changes, and I think this year, unfortunately, it's already
been a tough year. We've seen rising food and security,
it's risen to a record level. We've seen a really

(17:33):
mixed story around homelessness and housing. We've seen a fantastic
increase in the number of public houses so social housing
available to help people who are waiting for her need
at home. But on the other hand, we've also seen
a disturbing rise in the street homelessness as people as
the emergency housing support has been ended.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Do you ever draw down into the need and where
it comes from. And we'll be talking about this new
move from Housing Zealand after seven o'clock this morning about
chasing up some of the back rent. Is the back
rent for example, or in your circumstances to help hand
it out. Is it because there's nothing you can do
as an individual, or because as an individual there probably
was something you could do, you just couldn't be bothered.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
Well, I think it's a very very small issue, this
issue of over your rentals on social housing. What's most
important is that you're providing a place for people to
live that they're supported. And it's a tiny, tiny proportion.
If we were talking about the Coying Order House, there's
a tiny proportion wore in that situation, and that's among

(18:37):
seventy thousand people who are a.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Whole it's rent. In an economy, we don't have the
money that.

Speaker 9 (18:44):
Twenty one million compares to the what is it three
or so billion in rent that is collected over seventy
thousand rentals. We have to have a bit of perspective
on that.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So that's what I'm trying to get to. So your
your ideological and political view of the world is people struggle,
that's just life, and we pick up the tab and
we pay the bill for that.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
Our view is it's important to be besides people to
help them against get stability in their lives and to
help people have their lives transformed. And what we see
when social housing is doing well, that's exactly what happens.
And in fact, that's why we strongly support increasing community
and going order our government owned public housing so that

(19:29):
we can actually help people, help mend homelessness. That's the dream,
and we've seen a lot of we've seen a lot
of progress in that space, and we'd really like to
see that continued.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Good stuff. Pup, appreciate your time. Paul Barbara, who is
the report author the Salvation Army Reports number eighteen, nineteen
minutes away from seven, getting more on this after seven o'clock.
It was the funniest thing. So here is elbow.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I presented Australia's case for an exemption.

Speaker 14 (19:55):
The US President agreed that an exemption was under consideration.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Fantastic good news until about half an hour later.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
It's twenty five percent without exceptions or exceptions, and that's
all countries, no matter where it comes from.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
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so King of Jordan, are they all getting along well?

Speaker 15 (21:28):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (21:28):
Nice to be a fly on the wall, wouldn't it.
I wouldn't expect. So President Trump is having talks right now,
as you say, with Jordan's King of Dullap.

Speaker 11 (21:37):
He called him a great man.

Speaker 14 (21:38):
The two slapped each other on the back and walked
into the White House a short time ago, as the
Garzat truce is looking pretty fragile and Trump is upping
the ante on his idea of turning the wartorn wasteland
into that hotel and casino riviera.

Speaker 16 (21:51):
Right.

Speaker 14 (21:51):
He didn't lay this out initially, but now Trump is
saying Palestinians would not not be allowed back after his
proposed dream real estate development.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
When the palace and no money's turned.

Speaker 7 (22:03):
No, they wouldn't because they're going to have much better
houses in my.

Speaker 14 (22:06):
House somewhere in the desert and the battles of decades
and centuries are resolved.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
Right.

Speaker 14 (22:11):
Trump wants the almost two million thousands to be taken
in by Jordan and Egypt, which is a no go
for both countries. Jordan's royal family has ruled for more
than a century, would lose power if their country is
forcibly turned into a Palestinian homeland. Trump was asked how
far he might press this.

Speaker 16 (22:27):
Would you withhold aid to these countries if they don't
agree to take in the Palaeston ends.

Speaker 11 (22:32):
Yeah, maybe sure.

Speaker 14 (22:34):
Quote Well, Jordan's king might have a few ideas on that. Meantime,
the Gaza truce is at risk, with a mass claiming
that Israel has not provided the hundreds of thousands of
tents that were promised as part of the ceasefire agreement.
Once again, Trump has jumped in saying all hell will
break loose unless the block is settled by high noon

(22:54):
this weekend.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
If all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at twelve,
I think it's an appropriate time.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I would say.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Cancel it and all bets are off and let hell
break out.

Speaker 14 (23:08):
Yeah, you refuse to say what any of that meant.
The immediate issue is likely to be sorted out. However,
more significant is the CeaseFire's long term fate. The deal
is said to elapse after phase one and less Israel
must negotiate an extension. Trump's pronouncements are adding to the
sense of chaos about those pending negotiations.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Need all that was happening in the oval officers, he
was busy signing these steel and aluminium tariffs, of course.

Speaker 14 (23:33):
Yeah, and you know inflation was the biggest concern in
the last election, right, But if it is made of metal,
it could soon become significantly more expensive to buy such
a product. Here, Trump has moved ahead, has he been
saying with his imposition of tariffs on imported steel and aluminium.
There was still some wiggle room here. But Trump was asked, you're.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Not worried that any of that's going to go back
to the consumer.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
It might, but it's ultimately going to be much less expensive.

Speaker 14 (23:57):
Really, many would be buyers of cars and construction equipment
and appliance is not so sure. How long before US
still producers are up and running at levels which matched
the imports years never. You know, with cars, some use
rare allies in part which are brought in internationally. Tesla
sorted exemption to tariffs on such material, So what do

(24:20):
you reckon? Elon? And Trump also was accused of Strader
of slightly increasing its aluminium export. As you say, Alberizi
had that phone chat with Trump and the two sides
agreed that they would express that there had been consideration
of an exemption, and then Trump came out with that
flat statement saying, yeah, it's twenty five percent no exemption,

(24:42):
So we'll see how all of that plays. Meantime, Trump
was saying this as well, we will.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Be looking at chips, so we will be looking at cars,
and we're going to be looking at pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 14 (24:55):
So how quickly would any of this lead to lower
prices for inmbattled consumer?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Exactly see Friday Richard Arnold state, so we've got something
from the King of Jordan there in front of the
fireplace right now.

Speaker 16 (25:06):
Our collective responsibility in the Middle East to continue to
work with you to support you to achieve those loft
to goals.

Speaker 11 (25:12):
So I'm very delighted to be here. And as you said, sir,
we've got some very interesting discussions out Now.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
There we go, so the just right in front of
the fire and the yellow chairs and they'll go off
and have a chat. People seem to like them at
the moment. Trump CBS poll another one out yesterday, ceb
as you gov started a second term with more support
than he had when he took office in twenty seventeen.
Fifty three percent approval. It's a good number. They see
him as effective, focus, tough, confident, energetic seventy percent. So

(25:37):
they believe he's doing what he promised to do. I
mean really on that you can't argue. I mean, whether
you like him or not, he's doing what he said
he'd do. Fifty one percent said the policies will make
food and grocery prices go up, so they get it.
Twenty eight percent he believe his policies will be lower
lowering the prices. They don't get it. Two thirds not
focusing enough on lowering prices of goods and services. Seventy
three percent think the tariffs generally will make things more expensive.

(25:59):
For them, yet I still like them seed to save them.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
The mic husking breakfast with the range rover of the
Law News talks dead bea so he.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think the good Lord. He's explaining this because if
you're into real estate, you'll be interested in this particular opportunity.
Here's how the Riviera of Gaza is gonna work.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's not a complex thing to do.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
And with the United States being in control of that
piece of land, a fairly large piece of land, you're
gonna have stability in the Middle East for the first time.
And the Palestinians or the people that live now in
Gaza will be living beautifully in another location. They're going
to be living safely. They're not going to be killed,
murdered and having to leave every ten years. Because I've

(26:40):
been watching this for so many years, it's it's nothing
but trouble. Everyone's being killed, they're being robbed, it's like
living in hell. And they're gonna end up having a
great home, great families that don't have to get mugged
and killed and beaten up and harassed by Hamas and

(27:00):
everybody else.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
See, here's the problem and what the King of Jordan
at this point needs to do, and he won't is go, mate,
you're a nutter. It's called ethnic cleansing. No one in
my part of the world is going to live with it.
We're not taking your people. No one's clearing it out.
You make a not unreasonable point about the place being
hell and a destruction site and something needs to be done.
But this isn't it. But he won't say that, So

(27:21):
Trump will just Babylon. And the other thing I was
watching he was he was in the as I say
with Richard, he was in the Oval office yesterday that
mid day Saturday thing where all hell's going to break loose.
He I swear he made it up on the spot,
and he was literally signing with his sharpie the tariff thing,
and he goes, I tell you, I'll tell you what
I think by mid midday Saturday. It seems a good

(27:44):
time to me, midday Saturday. Unless it happens by midday Saturday,
all hell is going to break leat.

Speaker 17 (27:48):
It's like when he was talking about the steel and
aluminum tariffs on the plane and he was confirmed that yes,
it was going to be a twenty five percent on
the steel, and then he said ten percent on the element.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Now five could be more, who knows, But that's how
Trump rolls five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with
business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, all they got sucked him, but more on that
after seven o'clock, right, super Bowl viewership numbers finally got
to the bottom of there's how many people watched Super Bowl?
It is on a roll Nielsen, Fox in the NFL
this morning have all agreed on an average of one
hundred and twenty six million people, two percent increase on
last year's game, which was one hundred and twenty three
point seven million, which was already a record. So it's
a record on a record ahead a peak audience of

(28:33):
one hundred and thirty five point seven that was during
the second quarter of the game. That was one because
the game was still interesting at that particular point of time,
but it drifted away for fairly obvious reasons. They reckon
though probably it had something to do around the hype
of Kendrick Lamar the halftime show, so they see that
as a draw card in and of itself, not that
it turned out to be a draw card. A lot
of interest in his genes. So the skinny gene is

(28:56):
coming back. I don't know if you're up on this,
and I'm here to tell you the skinny gene is
coming back. You're seeing it on a lot of runways
around the world at the moment. But Kendrick came up
with some sort of these mom jeans, big cleared gens
that went down over a sneakers look rude at anyway.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
First's good news for.

Speaker 17 (29:09):
Those of us who had that weren't that skinny, But
as we'd aged, they've become a little bit more skinny here.

Speaker 16 (29:15):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's coming back. Streaming was the biggest success for the
sport so far. Thirteen point six million people tuned in
via the streaming site Toby. Just under one million watched
it via the NFL Plus or other NFL platforms. Some
of the increase overall attributed to Nielsen changing the way
they count views. For the first time, they're measuring out
of home viewers. That's you know, your bars and clubs.
So yes, there's one television on that the six hundred

(29:37):
people watching it. So finally they got around to being
able to work out how all of that works, right,
Housing new Zealand. Here's the new here's a good idea
what they're doing with the rent. If you're up on
this as an idea if you're a landlord, what they're
doing with the rent is that if you're sort of
open rent, they kind of now want you to pay it.
So we'll see how this is going to go after
the news, which is next.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
News, Opinion and everything in between.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
The Mic Hopting break bed with Vita, Retirement Communities, Life
Your Way News togs Head Bly.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Seven past seven. The rent crackdown is coming from House
in New Zealand. There's to be a new twelve week
max on areas. There's a lot of debt having to
be written off unfortunately. Associate Housing Minister Toma potakers with us.
Good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (30:18):
Thank you got it mate.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Any sense of how much of the areas is genuine
trouble In other words, something happened to Macama washing machine
and I'm now in trouble versus people who simply don't
pay rent.

Speaker 16 (30:28):
Yeah, I can't tall you percentages, but there's a lot
of it, especially with some of the cost of living
challenges we've got as a country.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
The previous administration is this how we get to write
off debt. Did they simply go if you didn't pay
your rent, don't worry about it.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (30:44):
How I describe it as that it was a little
bit loose and didn't do the money. We had one
million bills and dead in twenty seventeen it went up
to twenty one million in rent debt. It's back down
to sixteen and now the current order boards taking some
pragmatic decisions to get moving on some of that too.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Have they taken some pragmatic decisions under your instruction?

Speaker 16 (31:05):
Yes, under their government's encouragement, but it's an operational matter.
We respect it. But what we want to see is
that debt level dropping, and there has been some moves
in the last twelve months. It's gone from twenty one
to sixteen. But we think that it's important for tenants
to do they if they need some total or some support,
KO will support them. But if they're not abiding by

(31:27):
the rules and kind of order needs to take action.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is the twenty one down to sixteen the low hanging fruit?
In other words, it gets a bit harder from here.

Speaker 16 (31:34):
I think that's a fair description, but there are many,
many tenants who have had some challenges they've got more
than twelve week scept but they are pain and being
very reasonable, and I think it's important for current order
to be reasonable as well.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
The socially awkward question, and you've got a bit of
it in the house yesterday with the homeless is where
do they go? Wonder what? You boot them out? They
don't pay the rent, you boot them out? Where do
they go?

Speaker 16 (31:53):
Well kind of order will work with people to connect
with others in the space, in the housing space, whether
or not that's worth the likes of the Salvation Army
or others. So it's not just breading out and see
later it are, but hey, here, we're going to help
you get on a bit of the windsil program. If
you still can't be love, if you still can't do that,
let's connect with others that can help you get into

(32:16):
a better space.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I asked this question. I don't know if there is
an answer. How big is the social housing problem in
this country? And by that I mean when does it end?
When do you stop building houses? What percentage of the
population will forever need some sort of help? And are
we outlies in this? In other words, are we a
nation of people who just need too much government help.

Speaker 16 (32:34):
Well, I think we need to make sure that the
government's got the housing system, that's building and construction and
infrastructure and zoning all in the right place so private
developers can come in and actually build houses. I think
to your question, we do have less social housing as
a percentage of total housings some other countries.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Good.

Speaker 16 (32:53):
But what we need to make sure is that those
who are private developers can actually build houses because they
put most selves. If the government takes over that market,
it all skews and things go crazy like they did.
I suppose answer an answer to your question, Mike, there
is a core group of people that we definitely need
to provide some support for them, some social housing and others.

(33:16):
We need to sort of help transition out of that
dependency or that need for social alzing and something better
to do that. We also need to ensure we've got
jobs and businesses. Humming.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Congratulations on your press ups. Those press ups. How many
of them are the ones where you leave the ground
and clap? How many can you do?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (33:35):
Yeah, might be might be thirty in a row. But look,
I just try to hit certain healthy Michael, Yeah, I'm
just trying to keep sudden healthy yes, you are just.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Trying to keep that you are a machine. Well done.
Congratulations on If you haven't seen the video, look it up.
I'm sure it's gone viral as they say. But the
guy does press ups while you know, clapping in between.
If he can do thirty of those, that is one
fed individual. Tima po taker eleven minutes past seven. It
right back front and center. So Whinston Peters has decided
counsel should hold a referendum on whether this flu ride
in a water Now members bill is going to be

(34:04):
put in the ballot to that effect, the Health Minister
Sime and Brown said, don't worry about it's not going
to change. New Zealand Dental Association policy director Robert Wyman
Robin Wyman rather as well us Robin morning to you,
Good morning Mike. It's the weirdest thing. I still don't
understand why we battle flu ride the way we do.
But funarraise battling at the moment. And there was a
meeting in Rotaro yesterday and everyone got angsty about it.
At the end of the day. Should the Health Department

(34:28):
have the power to direct or not?

Speaker 19 (34:31):
Well, we think it's actually a sensible piece of legislation
that puts the balance of issues that need to be
thought about in the right places. In the end, somebody
has to make a decision about this, and the idea
that this is a health decision on the health issues
that the Director General of Health looks after is a
good idea.

Speaker 16 (34:52):
You have to also.

Speaker 19 (34:53):
Understand, though that Internet legislation, the Director General has to
consult with the councils or the water supplies about the
hues that they know about, which is things like whether
it's technically possible in how complex and expensive it would
be to actually throw it out the supplay that has
to all be weighed up. So and now of view,
it puts the responsibilities in the right swim lane if
you like.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Okay, But having said that, it's sort of different. I
mean what I'm getting from fung array in places like
right Orua, it's not about the piping or the cost.
It's about that we don't want to and we should
decide is that reasonable or not.

Speaker 19 (35:24):
Well, we went through a whole process when the legislation changed,
like lots of other decisions that the country makes through
a sect committee process, and there were plenty of submissions
made and there was a weighing up of the pros
and cons of the information. So I don't think it
is fair to say that there's no input from the public.
But at some point you have to stop in the
room and discussing it and getting on with making it anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm a the right fan happy to say so. But
why it is? What is it that's out there that's
still controversial that people are going to flood me now
with texts going.

Speaker 19 (35:58):
Well, there are a range of health conditions that are
ranged that could potentially be related to fluoride. And I've
been doing this for about thirty five years now and
they keep changing. But the one that's current, and there's
one that's very much known, and that is whether or
not you get fluorosis on the teeth, which is white
or yellow changes on the teeth that can happen if

(36:18):
you actually get the fluorid levels too high, but not
at the levels that we floridd in New Zealand. The
current debate is around intellectual development and cognitive ability. The
evidence on there is shown again that at the levels
we fluoridate that in New Zealand and Australia and other
countries like ourselves, that is not shown to have an

(36:40):
effect if you get the levels too high. There's an
unknown debate about that one.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, Robin, appreciate your expertise. Robin Wyman, I've been on
Florid my whole life, and look at me. I'm a genius.
Fourteen minutes past seven pastkame, here's Trump doubling down.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
They're sending the most healthy people out because they don't
want to send the least healthy people out. And there
was an upro when they saw the people from yesterday.
So these people are so I don't want to do
two and then we do another two in another week,
and then we do four.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
And three weeks.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Now, now they either have them out by Saturday at
twelve o'clock or all bets are off.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Benjamin's rought onto this. I'll come to that in just
a moment. Somebody, you know, well, they wanted to know this.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
He said before that the US would buy Gaza, and
today you just said, we're not going to buy.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
God, we're not gonna have to buy We're gonna we're
going to have guys that we don't have to buy it.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
There's nothing to bude.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
We will have Gaza.

Speaker 20 (37:38):
What is that?

Speaker 7 (37:38):
No reason to buy? There is nothing to buy. It's gaza.
It says, it's a war torn area. We're gonna take it,
We're gonna hold it, we're gonna cherish it, and you're
gonna have peace.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's gonna bring peace in the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
So, as a real estate mogul out of New York,
he's now telling us Land is free. So the land
what it is?

Speaker 14 (37:59):
Away?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I didn't you who's had a four hour discussion. He's
expressed outrage at the shocking situation of the three hostages
as well he might He's welcomed Trump's demand for the
deadline Saturday noon. As a result of that, the IDEF
for massing now on the border of Garsa. This is
all falling apart. You could see where this was going.
It was never going to hold. If Harmas does not
return our hostages by Saturday noon, the seasfire will end,

(38:20):
the IDF will return to intense fighting. Fifteen past.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
The high asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard
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Speaker 2 (38:31):
At b are there's any dus thing with New Zealand
rug before you shortly meantime, seventeen past seven, stand by
Mine Mine, The gold Rush, the Old gold Rush, could
be on the West Coast. Prices continuing to rise. It's
over fivey one hundred ounce this morning. Local councils expecting
to pick up in the number of people who want
to get into the mining business. Development and West Coast
Chief executive Heath Milner's with us. Heath Morning, Morning, Mike.

(38:53):
I read a story yesterday whining about the paperwork. Is Honestly,
if people are coming to the West Coast to open
a business, is the paperwork really a problem? Or are
you open for business and say let's go.

Speaker 18 (39:05):
The West Coast has got great support for businesses coming here.
And that's not just I'm not just talking about local government,
but natural government as well. You know, we've got a
really open the door, a business sign on the door,
and we're just looking for investors and people to take
advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Is it real? I mean, just because goal's at fifty
one hundred, do you open a mine?

Speaker 11 (39:28):
Yeah? Well absolutely, it's real.

Speaker 18 (39:30):
So if you take probably the highest profile mine at
the moment that's underway or just getting underways, Federation mine there.
I think last time you and Iceboat there was about
two and a half billion dollars worth of gold in
that mine that they know is there, and now it's
three point six, so you know it's it's big money
and pretty much ready to go. They've just need a

(39:51):
little bit more capital, So any new zeale and investors
that are looking to get a share of that, now
is the time, and in fact, the developed of trust here.
We've actually just put three millions into that project because
we can see the benefits coming back to the coast.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Is has the tide turned the Shane Jones we actually
need to mine forget the greense and the snails for
a while. Is that tide turned or not?

Speaker 10 (40:15):
Well?

Speaker 18 (40:15):
I think it has for investors. At the end of
the day, the miners have to fire the regulations anyway,
And as much as you know Shane Jones is a
bit of a poster child for mining, you know that's
that's turning investors on. The miners are still doing exactly
the same job. You know, they have to have to
do it in the right way. They have to get
their consents. I'm sure he can open some doors, but

(40:37):
you know, the miners they're conscious that they have to
do the job right or they'll lose the lose the public's,
public's trust, and they won't be able to continue to operate.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Go well that Heath appreciated. There's always Heath milon Development
West Coast tub executive. Just I should point out the
story I read was on radio in New Zealand. You
sit around in the news room. Can we think of
anything negative about that? Oh, you're the paperwork. If there's
a gold rush on the paperwork's going to be a
NightWare nightmare. Anyway, back to Welby and Trump. In a
moment seven twenty, the.

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Speaker 2 (41:16):
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I mentioned earlier, a couple of things yesterday, almost back
to back. It was funny as one Albanezi Anthony Albanizi

(42:09):
had been on the phone to Donald Trump over tariffs.
He was happy to report that the US sold more
to Australia than Australia sold to the US, and it
had been that way for many, many years, and that
Donald had said they could work on an exemption read
the steel and the aluminium. This was presented by Elbow
as good news. Not long after that, I watched Donald
phone back on the receiver signing some more executive orders.

(42:29):
One of them was the paper straw order no more
paper straws, that, according to Donald, had been number one
trending for three days. It then got to the steel
and aluminium. He signed it twenty five percent on everything
not made in America, no exceptions, no exemptions. So no exceptions,
no exemptions, So who fool who? Who misled who? Donald

(42:51):
could not have been clearer on steel and aluminium. America
didn't need anyone, they would be making their own. The
Commerce Secretary, standing right next to the President, proceeded to
tell us all that when did this last time? They
created one hundred and seventy thousand steel jobs, and since
then they've lost most of them. So that led Donald
to once again say this was the start of making
America rich again, no exceptions, no exemptions, and he would

(43:12):
be returning in the next couple of weeks to do
similar things on cars and drugs and pharmaceuticals and chips.
Now I could spend all day telling you what an
idiot this bloke is on tariffs and how they wrecked jobs,
not make them. Even the poll out yesterday that broadly
showed Americans support his adventures in these early days, it
also showed most don't believe tariff's lower prices or indeed
make the cost of stuff go down. And do you

(43:33):
know why they don't believe that because they don't trouble
for Elbow is he has Well, he's either misled the
Australian people deliberately or more likely been sucked in by
a real estate shark from New York. Either way, if
you've got a border with America, pedal fentanyl or make
stuff they can make themselves, this is worth a lot
of dough. Well, you're in trouble, irony being we sell

(43:54):
apples and wine and burger patties basically, so we might
get lucky out of this. But poor old Elbow will
have victually have to explain that what he might have
thought happened didn't Asking Mike Irvin, listening as you've talked
about the recent poles, and I'm fascinated by anyone who
is frustrated by the current government not turning around the
colossal mess creative by Hopkins and stuff fast enough, actually

(44:16):
thinking that we would be better off with the Labour
Green Mary Party coalition led by Hapkins. Really three question marks.
It's a very good question you raise and articulate and
it's the great dilemma of the day. And my argument
is this, And somebody said this to me the other
day when I made a comment about this government not
quite being up to it at the moment. They need
to go for broke, And they said, but the alternative

(44:36):
is what, And that's not how you run life. You
don't go the alternative as what. You don't be mediocre
just because no one else is any good. Even if
no one else is any good and they're not, you
still go for broke as far as I'm concerned. And
that's the dilemma at the moment. And I also did
articulate a couple of weeks ago that don't underestimate the
political effectiveness of people. I kept Cain standing in the

(44:59):
House as he was again yesterday, blaming the current government
for everything that's wrong. Now, now, bright people, you and
I understand that everything that's wrong with the economy currently
is not the current government's fault. It was six years
in the making and it will be years to try
and fully correct. But a lot of people don't necessarily
understand that. And if they don't understand that Hipkins has
sucked them in like Trump sucks in an elbow, and

(45:23):
suddenly the poles are the way they are.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
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Speaker 1 (45:31):
The Mic Hosking breakfast with the range rover villa designed
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Speaker 2 (45:37):
Be before I forget for those of you who are
texting about the Trump thing, yesterday you were clearly also watching.
They did ask about Australia. At that point, Trump did say,
they buy a lot of planes. They've got a surplus
with US. I looked up our numbers. By the way,
we're even stevens. It's a balanced trade portfolio. So he
can't ping us if he's true to his word. But

(45:58):
here's the thing, he's not true to his word because
yesterday in that conversation, if you were watching it, somebody
said in Australia, oh, yes, they buy a lot of
planes and we've got a trade surplus. So that's really
good and Elbow's a nice guy. Then a reporter said, well,
what about the UK. Now, if you remember in the
early days, one of the things he said, and he
was at nighttime standing in front of the zero plane

(46:19):
and they said, there are He said, tariffs are coming
for the EU the UK. We might be able to
do a deal on I think we can do a
deal for the UK. They asked him about the UK. Yes,
he goes no way, no way in the word we're
going to do a deal with the UK. There's no
trade surplus. So to think that what he says on
one day is going to happen on another simply makes
you naive. Twenty two minutes away from eight follows X Wednesday,

(46:42):
Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson after eight o'clive forour your meantime.
As if New Zealand Rugby didn't need more trouble there
right off to court after calling him the lawyers. Has
resulted in US and their six year sponsorship partner bailing
after only three it's a breach of contracts, scrap. Simon
Porter is managing director of Halo Sport, which is rugby's
most INFLUENTI player business. He's one of the sports most

(47:03):
influential player agents. I hope I have an oversoldier there, Simon.
Morning to you, good.

Speaker 11 (47:08):
Morning, good morning. Now it's always humbling in translated.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
No, well that's good. Do you know what's happened here?
I mean, do you?

Speaker 8 (47:15):
Is?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
There a lot of scuttle but behind the scenes and
we're all going, you know, oh yeah we saw this
coming or not?

Speaker 11 (47:20):
No, not really. I think there were a few whispers
around the place last year sort of off the back
of Ratcliffe's investment into Manchester United, but really don't know
that's what. It'd be quite interesting if it ever does
see the light of day in court with pleadings, et cetera,
to see what is behind it. But no, it sort
of came a little bit out of the blue.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Because the risk the union take is that any else
have got a counter argument, which is we were expecting
as part of the contract ABC dn E and none
of that's happened.

Speaker 11 (47:49):
Hence we've gone, yeah, that that is one where it
could be or they might just be backing themselves that
the All Blacks, being one of the biggest brands in
the world, can just replace them quite easily given what
there is to offer with space on the Jersey and
the training Dusey. Except you and going yep, well we've
broken the contract, but you've now got a duty to
mitigate your loss and go and find a replacement for

(48:10):
that hole, and that they might just be backing themselves
that that New Zealand can do that. But I think
New Zealand have to protect themselves by getting the proceedings.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
In really so you think they're making the right move,
who's that in New Zealand?

Speaker 10 (48:23):
Right?

Speaker 11 (48:24):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't think they've probably got another option. Look,
and I'm sure one thing, you know, scuttled up behind
the scenes, et cetera. Discussions would have been going like
this will be last resort, this isn't the first thing
they'll do. They would have been trying really hard to
get in across the line, et cetera. And so I
would have thought to protect their position, they probably have

(48:45):
to be in the proceedings to say, hey, well we're
actually serious, and you know you've got a front with
cash even if they are trying to find a replacement.
I think, you know is a very rusty lawyer. I
think you probably just have to, you know, you've got
to pret your position, begin the proceedings in.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
In what court would this be held and over what
time frame would it unfold?

Speaker 11 (49:07):
Well, there'll be a jurisdiction clause in the contract, which,
given that New Zealand are based, when he's in a
Rugby's based obviously in New Zealand, I would have thought
it's probably in the High Court here in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Okay, would be my guess, and presumably.

Speaker 11 (49:22):
Insisted on an English clause for other ruler law for
their contract, and I just don't actually know.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
The interesting thing for me is that this is a
fifty five billion and when I say billion, I mean euros,
so it's one hundred billion dollar plus company. And they're
claiming allegedly this morning that times are a bit tight
in petrochemicals. You know, sixty seven eight million dollars worth
of business is not falling it because, I mean, that's
not a reason is it to walk away from a contract?

Speaker 11 (49:48):
No, there's something's happened there. Yeah, I don't know. I
honestly don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Okay, it could be.

Speaker 11 (49:54):
Yeah, well, I mean they've got I mean it's very hard.
With always sponsored contract design, you effectively give up a
bundle of right. So they gave them the training Jersey.
I think there's a spot on the shorts, which was
a new initiative by New Zealand Rugby. And then it
will say they get to set a number of player
hours where players come and they're available for photo shoots

(50:16):
or they're available for in person appearances, et cetera. Like
to say that you haven't provided something. That's probably pretty
difficult because they are extremely prescriptive contracts.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Is six years unusual?

Speaker 11 (50:29):
No, Well, they did the Front of Jersey with el
trade was six years, and a lot of the contracts
that have done were all six year contracts that were
done at the similar time. Now, probably that is collective
agreements normally run three years, so I imagine that they
try to get two cycles of collective agreements to give

(50:49):
certainty when you're doing collective agreement negotiations.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Is eight million a good deal? I was surprised at
how low it was to be, Frank.

Speaker 11 (50:59):
I don't know if that's actually the number right, but
there's a lot of those. Well for a team that
only plays fourteen games a year, you know, compared to
a Major League Baseball team that plays one hundred and
sixty or you know anything, it's probably not bad. In
the in the scheme of things of their other partners,

(51:20):
you know, it's right up there as one of their
top deals. I think the Turner was about two hundred
and sixty eight million last year, and about one hundred
and twenty of that was sponsorship Front of Jersey Pale
lot because that is the premium spot. So you know,
look at and all those deals were done before and
he's in a Rugby commercial split off and before civil

(51:41):
it was really done because you know, if you look
back at the timing. So this is actually a really
interesting little exercise now to see if they do go
out and try to replace you, if they get another
sponsor to or one of their existing sponsors who's not
on the jersey to step up and fill the hole.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Is the market the point eight million? You can't get
it locally, It has to be a big player internationally.

Speaker 11 (52:03):
Yep. Yeah. If you look at their sponsors then generally
they are farmer broad in big foreign companies because you know,
they're just That's probably one of the biggest changes in
the sponsorship landscape over the last sort of fifteen years
is that you know that the numbers needed to run
these teams and to run these organizations are so huge

(52:24):
that you know, you kind of have no option but
to position it as a as a global brand attracting
global sponsors.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Interesting stuff, all right, So I appreciate your expertise. Simon Porter,
Halo Sport Managing Director, sixteen minutes away from mate past game.
Very good news, Mike. Ourself storage facility has stores who
now have their storage piece four hundred and ten dollars
each month paid by MSD and Salvation Army got good
news on that more shortly sixteen to two, The.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
News talks.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
That be Mike, you're missing the point. He's done with Rugby.
It's a dying sports soccer. If one American footballer year
growth sports, well, I mean, if that's true, you don't
sign a six year contract because Rugby's issues are not new.
It'd be uncommon Mike if there was and are not
to be an arbitration clause. If that's the case, the
dispute will be confidential. I hope that's true, because I

(53:15):
don't think either party would want this played out in court.
Mic our sol Storage now, yes, the self storage. I'm
on the bridge of victory this morning. Domestically speaking, I'm
very excited about this. At a location that will remain undisclosed,
there is a skip that has arrived this morning and
things have been cleared up and things have been cleared
out into that skip, and that led to a conversation
the other day. I said, if you're clearing stuff out,
make sure it's all cleared out properly. Fill that skip

(53:37):
get rid of this crap. I'm into getting rid of crap.
And I said, what about the storage. I found out
the other day we have a storage facility. I thought
we'd cleared ourselves of all storage facilities. This is not true.
There has been a secret storage facility in our relationship
that's been holding goods that I discovered the other day.
And I said, why are you getting this ship empty
the storage facility. I'm not against storage facilities. I've stored stuff.

(53:57):
But in storing stuff, what you discover is there's an
es dollishing amount of crap in this country being locked
up behind doors, and people pay hundreds of dollars a
month just to store stuff they are never going to use.
I for example, of a coffee table, and when I
say coffee table, I would have a clue what the
coffee table looks like, an a side table and several
other tables. And that is in storage quote unquote from

(54:20):
a person will remain nameless just in case. And I
say just in case, what, oh, one of the kids
may need it one day one day, I said, just
think about it. The story the coffee table will be crap.
The dining table's crap. The reason it's crap is because
it wasn't crap, you'd have it in the house. The
reason it's not the house but a crap. How much
are you paying to store crap? You're never going to
use hundreds of dollars a month. So we've got a

(54:42):
skip at an undisclosed location, and we're filling the skip
up this morning, and then hopefully the storage facility is
going to be empty, so we will have an empty
house with no crap and no more bills from storage
facilities and no more crap in those storage facilities. Now
it is only ten minutes away from it, and it's
early part of the day, and things could go awry.

Speaker 17 (55:05):
But as I said, you've missed an opportunity to what
do a Berry Humphrey's estate style or.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Don't get don't get, don't get me started.

Speaker 17 (55:14):
I mean imagine that maybe people queuing out for you know,
this was once something that might asking almost decided to
put on his lounge but didn't.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
If you missed the Barry Humphrey story the other day,
the auction opens tomorrow the next day. That went wrong
as well for me. Unfortunately, that particular dream is not
going to be lived in this particular.

Speaker 17 (55:33):
I mean you should you should always put a time
limit on this, on the storing stuff, right, I couldn't
agree more, Well, you know what it be at six months,
Maybe go generous a year. If you haven't had to
access that item, it's gone a year.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Couldn't agree. You don't need you and I should be
married Glynn, Yeah, because look how well will we get.

Speaker 17 (55:50):
On at the very least, like every move, Like if
you haven't used something since the last time you.

Speaker 12 (55:56):
Moved, you don't need it, it's gone Berger.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I I I asked this question going to the break
have you ever tried to register for an auction at Christie's?
Nine away from eight.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News Talks.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
V OMG, Mike, why don't donate to a n op shop?
That's lawful to be dumped, that's awful to be dumped?
Hope you're recycling Mike to the selly's or hospice. Ironically,
in telling that story, I forgot to tell you another story,
which I will tell you about tomorrow. So much easier
said than done. Seven minutes away from eight, researchers in
Melbourne have developed a smoke detection device which could save

(56:34):
the Australian wine industry a fortune. How's this work? It's
called wizards can determine whether grapes are still salvagible after
smoke and fire exposure. The Trope University researcher Ian Porter's
behind all of this and he's with us Sean. Very
good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (56:46):
Yeah, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Is this unique to Australia in terms of bushfires or
potentially it's global? Is this an issue in their wine industry? Everywhere?

Speaker 18 (56:55):
Absolutely all the temperate zones around the world could benefit
from the technology. So we hope it's adopted firstly across
Australia and it's in four states now and should expand
out and then hopefully go global.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
So the grapes are in a warehouse, you do what
this is a probe? Is it a sniffer? What does
it do?

Speaker 18 (57:15):
No, the grapes on the vines during the season. What
it does in real time is give the growers an
answer as to whether the smoke has been too much
to taint the wine that will eventually be put in
the bottle.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Is that a yes or no? Is it a number figure?

Speaker 20 (57:31):
What is it? No?

Speaker 18 (57:33):
It is a traffic light system. So it gives green, yellow,
and red, and it lets you know whether you are okay,
whether you might need some intervention on white wines or
red wines. Yeah, and then you take it from there.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Does it do it what bunch by a bunch, vine
by a vine row by row?

Speaker 18 (57:53):
No, you put it in a vineyard and it'll estimate
or you might have one or two or three depending
on the undulation in your vineyard, and then that will
predict across that vineyard whether the grapes are safe to
harvest or not, and save you if you've got smoke taint.
And also you all the costs of netting, labor, et
cetera to harvest the crop.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Because I remember, I can't remember when, but it was
a number of years ago that a lot of people
produced wine with a smoke taint. Didn't they became a thing?

Speaker 18 (58:21):
No, not really. Most vineurons hate getting or wine drinkers
hate smoke taint. Although at very very low levels you've
got similar compounds to what you get through cellaring. So
until they become noxious and become like an ashtray, the
wine is still palatable. But growers don't like it. There
they believe it develops in the bottle. It actually doesn't,

(58:41):
but it can become a little stronger in the first
six months and that's it. But if you know what
the levels are and you use the wizard, you won't
get that.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Are you guys at try clipping the ticket? Do you
run that sort of operation where you invent something and
you get commercial gain from.

Speaker 18 (58:57):
It none whatsoever? Sent it out to a commercial company
to market. All we want is growers to avoid the
emotional and financial stress from what happens when they get
smoke around and that's from bushfires about every five years
in Australia, and we want to make sure that they
benefit from that. In two twenty day, last five hundred

(59:18):
million dollars worth of grapes and they could have saved
a loss if that had this technology.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Fantastic, go well with it. I appreciate it very much.
I think it is too twenty and oh disagree with me,
but too. I think it was then, say five years
ago some people I think it was South Australia produced
wine and people went, there's something not right there and
they concluded it had something to do with the smoke.
I reason they asked about the commercial side of it.
That's what Luxon wants to do here with science. If
you invent something good here, there's commercial applications to be had,

(59:45):
and that's the sort of direction we need to be
hitting them. Politics Wednesday is.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Next, setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the
mic costing, breakfast with Bailey's real estate, finding the buyers.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Others can't use togs.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
They'd be something both of being the re hands of
Johnie Mitchell. Early Jennie Mitchell.

Speaker 12 (01:00:16):
Carried around on your yep, I can hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yours, Nadya read and I now sit here wondering why
we never had her on the program.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
It's the only.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Because she's a New Zealander, so she was relously or
available to us. I assume before she moved. She's another
one of these people who's moved. She's she's gone voted
labor couldn't get back in during COVID applied to where
my Q wouldn't be letting. She said, well, how come
the Wiggles are in and I'm not, So she went

(01:00:55):
back to Manchester. That story I literally just made up.
She did move from New Zealand to Manchester, and she's
put out a fourth album. It's called enter now brightness.
Assume that's how she'd wanted, said into now brightness ten tracks,
fourteen and a half minutes. Very pleasant. I think she's

(01:01:17):
been a lovely morning. I get her on, Sam, you
should be ashamed that she was here all along. She
was sitting here in the country waiting to be interviewed,
and you never called her. You have to do everything.
It's eight minutes past eight Politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with
us along with Jenny Anderson. Good morning to both of you.

Speaker 21 (01:01:34):
Morning Jenny, Morning.

Speaker 20 (01:01:36):
To both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Jinny. Two questions actually for you. One? Where were you
in Parliament yesterday?

Speaker 20 (01:01:42):
On the front row? Like I usually am?

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Well you weren't you usual?

Speaker 20 (01:01:44):
See? Yes, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
They weren't. Joe Luxon was there? Is it Luxeon and Reluxton?

Speaker 20 (01:01:49):
No, you must have been look at the camera, funny.
I was exactly where are usually?

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Where was Joe Luxon there sitting behind me? I think
she would behind you? Yeah, okay, well that's why I
was pleased. As soon as I heard of never heard
of speak before in my life, I thought, well, there's
a labor part in doing some work for once. So
when she asked the question, I thought where's Ginny, because
I thought there was the front. So I'm pleased about
that second question, knowing you the way I know you, Ginny,
which is not that well at all. But honestly, hand

(01:02:15):
on heart, given the opportunity, you would really want to
drive a land roper of those steps, wouldn't you.

Speaker 20 (01:02:23):
But I wouldn't break the rules. I'm quite good like
that usually, But I don't think you want to. But
if you got told not to, and particularly got told
you and you got filmed by TV one news, yeah
that's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I'll come to that part. But there's the land rover
and they go, Ginny, you want to write it up
the steps? You'd go for it, wouldn't you. Yeah, I
wouldn't know, Yes, yes, when I would?

Speaker 20 (01:02:46):
Actually, then you're christianding me.

Speaker 21 (01:02:49):
I do.

Speaker 20 (01:02:49):
I do have one Christian for you. I just have
one thing I want to clear up because I listened
to your show, and I did listen to the Prime
Minister yesterday morning. Yes, and I'm pretty sure he said this,
but I just want to clarify he did say this.
Did he say quote, We've got a rolling thunder, constant
announcements to remove barnacles and get the show on the road.

(01:03:12):
And if he did say that, can you please tell
me what does it mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
It doesn't mean anything, and we had it to be
fair to you, Jenny. We had a conversation afterwards, going
what do you reckon? He meant by removing barnacles from
the ship and.

Speaker 21 (01:03:26):
And we did the rolling thunderstounds cool? I just think that, well,
does it?

Speaker 11 (01:03:30):
Mark? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Absolutely? He didn't. It didn't sound cool when he said
it to me because I burst out laughing. Who workshops
that stuff with the Mark? You are you the insideer?
Is there a comericant?

Speaker 20 (01:03:44):
In turn?

Speaker 21 (01:03:45):
Maybe he's your leader and he's Look, I'm telling you now,
Mike that in terms of where we are as a
country and at the moment there's a lot of stuffering
going on because of the economic situation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Yes there is.

Speaker 21 (01:03:58):
That is have a guy like him.

Speaker 11 (01:04:01):
That is to me.

Speaker 21 (01:04:02):
I've worked under lots of very, very good leaders all
around the world. This guy is a class act. He's
he knows what has to be done. He's got a
proven track record, he's actually been in the real world.
In terms of delivery.

Speaker 11 (01:04:15):
It is tough.

Speaker 21 (01:04:15):
We knew that it was going to be tough, and
we know what that. We've got a lot of work
to do. But I'll tell you what, I'd rather have
a guy like Chris Lux with his background, his experience,
his energy and his focus to get things done.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I tend to agree, and making this as a political
as it possibly can, I tend to agree, and I
think there's a lot of good will for him generally.
But I think Ginny does make a point, and I
know she makes a point that's being talked about widely
around the country. When he comes out with his growth, growth, growth,
barnacles on hips and rolling thunder, there's something about that
that people go, oh, mate, you know, if you haven't

(01:04:49):
delivered yet, which he hasn't and he might. Let's hope
he does. But he comes across as slightly wonky and nerdy.

Speaker 21 (01:04:57):
Well, I mean I would dispute they have delivered. I
mean there's been a lot done in the first twelve
months in terms of tax relief. We see inflation now
back to sustainable levels, we see interest rates coming back down.
That's not easy. That's not easy stuff to do. It's
actually really tough, and being inside government you got to
make tough decisions.

Speaker 11 (01:05:14):
He does that.

Speaker 21 (01:05:15):
The easy thing to do would be what Labour did
and just keep borrowing money and borrowing money and borrowing
money and shoving out the door, and we'd end up
being a third world country and a but I think
in the same place as Venezuela, and we're not going
to do that. We're going to we're going to be.
We're going to be we're going to be a world
class country, well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Better and if you can pull it off, you'll get
another term. And that's how democracy works. What we're going
to say, Jenny, Oh, well, I.

Speaker 20 (01:05:37):
Think that that that's that's fine. You can you can
say that's what he's trying to do. But that's not people.
It's not it's not what people feel. So people aren't
getting those benefits you talk about. People are paying higher rates,
higher insurance, their mortgages are still high, their property prices
and willing to ny and well, people aren't feeling that.

(01:05:57):
And I think the problem you've got. If he is
this big sea that his flowery CEO language, then why
didn't he sack someone like David Seymour who has constantly
disobeyed him, Because if he really was that top cutting
edge CEO guy, he should make tough calls. Senior leadership
was Adrian Or.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
But he missed that particular opportunity. Let's take a brief
break Morning Moment thirteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
EPA, sixteen past eight, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell weathers, Jenny,
can I give the chips to some advice through you?
Can you stop asking for everyone to be sacked? It's
just behaving. The way David Simo has is not a
sackable offense, and the Prime Minister and the Coalition can't
go round sacking people left, right and center.

Speaker 20 (01:06:44):
So you think it's okay that he wrote to police
and said about Polkinghorn see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I'm not an expert, Mark you are, and that you
said he should go to the Police Complaints Authority ruh.

Speaker 21 (01:06:54):
No, that the police wrote back to them and referred
him back to the IPCA or Polkinghorn's lawyer. Look the
reality of it, as David was acting as the local
MP and locally in peace are conduits for information and
they have to advance issues for their constituents. I have
a I don't now because it's conflict of interest because
I'm Minister of Police but I have someone else do
it for me. But before that, I had a quarterly

(01:07:15):
meeting with my police herea commander. I had a list
of the issues that my constituents and community have brought forward,
and I'll discussed those with them. However, there is a line,
and you should try to be very aware. And it's
a good remind of fall MPs not to induce yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Into Mark because so so at that particular point, he's
the local MP. Some guy comes to him who you've
never heard of before, and he goes, look, here's what's
happening to me. Can you write me a letter?

Speaker 21 (01:07:42):
Yep, And that's why I'm not seeking guessing him. He's
the local IMP.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I benefit of you know, you mean, sure he turned
maybe Polkingholm turned out to the whole thing turned out
to be something you didn't know at the time. And
if he didn't know at the time, how can he
possibly foresee what's going to happen.

Speaker 20 (01:07:55):
Well, that's not clear. That's not clear from the case.
So like that's not clear whether he did know him before,
or he was a friend or what was the relation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Doesn't really matters.

Speaker 20 (01:08:02):
Constituent.

Speaker 21 (01:08:03):
Well, sorry for that that I see in my electric
now well, he also wants.

Speaker 20 (01:08:10):
It's not a very good test he has been asked
and won't say where there he's received any funny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Where did you get that from? That question from Hipkins
yesterday is what do you know? Why did you ask that?
And what difference does it make.

Speaker 20 (01:08:21):
That's a question that the media have been asking. What
was the prior relationship here? And if he's if it's
so clear and it's so fine, just say you didn't
And he won't say, but what if he did?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
But if to say I give some more money or
you or Mark because you've been locally so I happened
to give you guys money, I'm still as entitled as
a constituent to the same representation whether I've giving you
money or not, aren't I.

Speaker 20 (01:08:44):
I think it raises concerned about transparency if he's not
upfront and saying that, fine if he did it, but
he should be clear about that he did it. And
that's what politicals.

Speaker 21 (01:08:54):
He was at his local MP it was before he
became a minister, and you know, and that's along the
short of it. And the other thing too. On the
land I mean, I love those old land Rovers. But
the thing that I love about the fact that it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
All over the media.

Speaker 21 (01:09:06):
Is that And it was the same reason I came.
When I came back home in twenty eleven, I've been
involved in delivering the first elections up in Iraq and
one of the big issues up there is that the
candidates would blow each other up with roadside bombs. And
when I came home and the big issue, well, the
big issue was the teapot tapes, and I thought, oh,
it's good to be home. The only issue that we

(01:09:27):
have a little bit of exactly, it's not some contexts
around it, yeah, exactly, it's a second I.

Speaker 20 (01:09:35):
Still think though, and there's a general feeling that members
of parliament helping constituents with an inquiry to police, that's
one thing that that happens, fine, but in suiting yourself
in a murder investigation writing but he was under inquiry
for this. It was a serious offense and he's inserting
himself into a police inquiry of a serious offense and
that's quite different to just advocating to you.

Speaker 21 (01:09:57):
And I think the whole question is at the time
of writing, and we can't be in his head. He's
acting and good faith is as a local MP. But
it's a good reminder for all of us as MPs
to make be very conscious of that line and not
jocting yourself exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Quick one for you, Jenny, This this this thing of
the Maori Party who you're going to have to deal
with in one way, shape or other if you want
to be contender for the election. Is this this parliamentary commissioner.
I noticed that your leader now says we can have
a commissioner for tatty. That's a waste of money because
you can't have it with powers. There are no powers.
So you're just going to employ yet another person to

(01:10:30):
earn a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year to
write reports to achieve.

Speaker 20 (01:10:33):
What Well, where did you get that from? Because I
was pretty clear at White Tungy that we support encouraging
the White Tungi Tribunal. We weren't very excited about the
independent Commissioner, and Chris Hipkins that White Tungi came out
quite clearly and stated that, well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
He changed his mind. It says Chris Hipkins, he's open
to consider parliamentary Commission of trity is proposed by the
married parties. We're all our role having veto about so
you just quite clearly.

Speaker 20 (01:11:00):
I'll go back and find it for you. Who said
quite clearly that the White tang he's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Changed his mind and insuming period. I heard him at
White Tangy. But there's days ago. Stay with it, Jenny,
Come on, this is twenty.

Speaker 20 (01:11:08):
Four today and he said that too.

Speaker 21 (01:11:11):
So you're ruling that rule that statement out there.

Speaker 20 (01:11:15):
What I'll say to you, what I'll say to you.
It is important that that we has in place the tribunal,
and that's the We've got.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
That in place. But they want a special parliamentary commissioner.
He says he's open to considering it.

Speaker 20 (01:11:29):
Is he not or considering it too? It's quite different
to what you if the head of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
It to get sacked. We're don't have to sack you
for this.

Speaker 20 (01:11:38):
Yeah, well I think you love this one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You can have an opinion.

Speaker 20 (01:11:41):
Interesting how like David Seymour does really stupid things like
in to being a murder investigation. But you're far more
interested in the White Tangy trub.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Here because you can see it this morning and I'm
just trying to you know, you want a second for
driving the landy. Yeah, that's that's not.

Speaker 20 (01:11:57):
Who said no? The man in the cart, the man
in the security did they know quite clearly he was so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
During he wants to cause it, and you know you'd
want to go. I would do it. And Mark, you
didn't actually answer the question. You too would want to
drive up the steps, wouldn't you?

Speaker 21 (01:12:12):
Or if I had, if I had from the speaker,
I would love to drive the land up the steps,
if I had permission from the from the commission, from.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
The sorry, from the speaker, if you maybe from drive
the landing up the steps. Would it get the barnacles
off the boat?

Speaker 20 (01:12:29):
Yeahlling those barnacles.

Speaker 21 (01:12:35):
With barticles, wasn't it wasn't even a boat.

Speaker 20 (01:12:37):
Wasn't a boat? I think it sounds I think actually
sounds like a really good country in Western lyric and
a song I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Think boat as we drive the landy to your own.
But we've got to keep taking barnacles off this boat.

Speaker 20 (01:12:55):
We've got a rolling thunder of constant announcements to remove barclesho.

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bringing ideas to the Prime Minister to try and boost
Chinese tourism. They are claiming you can get a visa
process in eight days. But the problem with that is
it's a visa and it's paperwork. And what I didn't
realize is they used to allow you to do it
in Mandarin. Because I don't know if you know this,
but Chinese tend to speak Mandarin, not a lot of English,
and suddenly you've got to apply for a visa in
the language you don't speak, and you wonder why you

(01:14:31):
don't want to come to the country. So they're looking
at things like that, possibly fingers crossed a visa waiver.
I don't think they're going to go with it, but
we'll keep you posted and see what they're up to it.
Let's go to Australia after the news. Steve Price is
next to hear news talk, saidb.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
My Context. Not the first time that Landy's been up
those steps I understand, Well, it turns out you're wrong
because I know why you're making the point. But watching
the Parliament yesterday, Jerry Brownlee who it was asked by
the charity. So the landrover was at parliament for a charity.
We told you about it on the program the other day.
It's going up the country and it's raising money. They
wanted to recreate this time back in the early nineteen

(01:15:19):
hundreds where apparently a land drover was driven up the steps.
Now when they asked permission from the Speaker, the Speaker
not to be too grumpy about it, thought well, we
better do some investigation here and find out when in
fact this land drover went up the steps and what
was the purpose of it. So we don't want to
automatically just say no. So they did the research. They
went to the library, they looked for the photos. There

(01:15:40):
are none. There is no record anywhere of a landrover. Ever,
he reckons Jerry Browne. It's urban myth. So therefore you're
not recreating anything. So as a result he said no.
Twenty two minutes away.

Speaker 15 (01:15:52):
From nine, International correspondence with ends an eye Insurance Peace
of mind for New Zealand Business and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
The big red landuar left the price.

Speaker 16 (01:16:00):
Good morning to you, Good morning morning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I reckon elbow has been sucked in, don't you.

Speaker 16 (01:16:05):
Yes, he had a very interesting day yesterday, didn't he.
I mean he rushed to the phone. It was a
pre arranged call President Trump. So let's get that up front.
And I mean, this call didn't come about because the
tariffs got slapped on and suddenly now Anthony Albanize wanted
to argue our case. It was a pre arranged call.
Lasted forty minutes. The President post the call called Anthony

(01:16:27):
Albaniz he quote a very fine man, but then proceeded
not long after via his department that's actually going to
work out whether Australia gets exemption on these tariffs or not.
To say, well, hang on them in Australia is threatening
US national security. They've allowed all his aluminum into the country.
They've gone well past what they said.

Speaker 11 (01:16:49):
They were the.

Speaker 16 (01:16:49):
Expert to us by one hundred percent. So the ball
is now firmly back in the US court. I mean,
we know what happens here, Donald Trump. He signs these
presidential orders and then the Department gets to work in
the background. Most of the diplomats. I saw Mike yesterday
talked about this said, look, we're at stage one, we're
on the ground floor. We're not out of the woods yet.

(01:17:12):
This is going to take a long time. It's going
to take a lot of convincing and we're not sure
that Australia will end up actually being exempt on steel
and adaminium going into the US. And that's an interesting
aspect because the prime ministers really come straight out, stood
out in the Prime Minister who courtyard and crowed about
the call, basically saying we're going to be exempt.

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
Well, it's going to be.

Speaker 16 (01:17:33):
Very embarrassing for him if that doesn't happen, particularly given
that that a low happened during the lead up to
an election.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Couldn't agree more. And we'll come back to the election
in just a moment. Sam Kerr, I think I suggested
to you. I read a piece yesterday in one of
the papers. Jeffrey Robinson wrote, See it should never have
been in court. It was and she's been found not guilty.
But the bigger question is this, as so often as
the case, so much bigger than it needed to be,
isn't it? Yes?

Speaker 16 (01:17:57):
But the reputational damage to Sam Kerr, so you can't
calculate that. I read Robertson's column and his sentiment is
probably correct. I mean, there's a lot more important things
in the UK justice system I would have thought to
be dealing with than Sam Kerb. But what it's done,
and this is the debate we're having in this country.
This woman's the captain of the Matilda's, the national soccer team.

(01:18:20):
She's the most highly paid female soccer stuff probably in
the world, place with Chelsea hasn't played for a year
because of a knee injury. But what she showed on
that night where she abused a copper, refused to pay
a cab driver was a level of privilege that most
people feel uncomfortable. I mean, I'd never thrown up in

(01:18:43):
the back of a taxi, but I can understand how
it might happen. I've never been in a cab locked
and driven to a police station, and yes, I'd be agitated.
Would I be libel as her partner did to kick
the back window out, No I wouldn't, and then to
end up in court and all that body cam. She's
got a long way to go back to get back

(01:19:03):
to the point where at one point I would suggest
to you. During the World Cup in this country, she
was the most popular Australian of all. She was the
Young Australian of the Year in twenty eighteen. She'd been
lauded by every politician up and down the country. I
just think today she seems like a bit of a
privileged superstar soccer player who's a bit of a nasty

(01:19:25):
piece of works.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
And here's what but here's how it works. I mean,
if all the Australian people or whoever it is, see
you kick a ball and score a goal, that's what
they think of you the moment they get to I
just think about this the other day with Grace Tame
and that T shirt, the Yeth Murdock t shirt standing
next to Alban Easy, the woman's Australian. You know, you
hand out the prizes and then all of a sudden, ah,
is that what you really like?

Speaker 18 (01:19:45):
Eh?

Speaker 16 (01:19:47):
I think that's correct. And I don't know that Sam
Kirk could ever get it back to the position that
she was in during that World Cup. I think she's
very much tarnished. And there's now a debate going on
whether she should be given back to captaincy of the
Matilda's I don't think that'll happen. It's a bit like
Sam paper Gate and Steve Smith. I mean it's very
hard to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
That's exactly right. Now, take me to the lodge last
night drinks. What's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:20:12):
All the tills were invited.

Speaker 16 (01:20:13):
Now, these are the independents who say they're not a party,
but they are funded by a climate two hundred and
Simon homes a court.

Speaker 11 (01:20:21):
Suddenly, out of the.

Speaker 16 (01:20:22):
Blue on a Monday, on Tuesday night, the Prime Minister
invites all of them to drinks at the lodge. The
invitation logged very late. Six point thirty was the invitation time.
It lasted for only an hour and a half. You
had people like Zoey Daniel and the Legras, Spender and

(01:20:42):
Zalie Schegel, all of them were there. Monique Ryan and
you can't see this in any other way than the
PM loading himself up with a drinks party at the lodge.
In the event that the election, which is going to
be held now, I think, ay, sooner rather than later,
I must apologize the interest rate cover this next Tuesday.

(01:21:03):
I thought I said on Monday was yesterday. It's next Tuesday.
He's going to have to deal with these people in
a minority government. That's the most likely outcome, probably right
now the election. So if you live in the lodge
and you're the PM and you want to impress a
bunch of people who you're going to have to deal
with if you have a hung Parliament, what better way
to do it than turn on some canterplace and champagne

(01:21:25):
down at the lodge.

Speaker 10 (01:21:26):
On the law.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Interesting, Hey, just quickly before you go. So I'm reading
yesterday about North Sydney and they're not the only one.
There's another council on Northern Beaches. I think North Sydney County.
How much of this is going on Australia generally eighty rates.
This is eighty seven percent over two years. What moron
thinks they can get away with that?

Speaker 16 (01:21:44):
I wish I hadn't raised it because I think what's
going to happen here now is Victorian councils are going
to look at this and go, well, you beauty. If
they can get away with it there, we can get
away with it here. North Sydney Council is a little
bit of an outlier because they decided to renovate that
beautiful swimming pulled down on the edge of the harbor
next to Lunar Park and the thing's been going. The
renovation has been going for four years. That have could

(01:22:06):
take four years, I don't know. I haven't got the
exact cost off the top of my head. That has
ballooned out by more than two hundred percent the cost
of it. It's sending the council broke and they believe
the only way to do it is to up the
rates by that amount, which is outrageous. Northern Beaches of
Sydney have done the same thing. I think other councils
will be looking at this going new beauty. I think
we can do this, which is outrageous because from a

(01:22:30):
Victorian point of your councils, a repairing pot, old roads,
your rubbish collection might or might not happen. They don't
do the basic things they're supposed to do, and I
think there'd be complete revolution if they tried to do
it in Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
You're a good blake to see next week. Appreciate it
very much and I do recommend the Jeffrey Robinson peace
out of the Morning Herald yesterday. I was a London judge.
Sam Kerr's case should never have gone to trial. It's
a very very good example of how if you get
somebody who's a bit bitter and twisted, in this case
it was a policeman, is somehow allowed to spend an
astonishing amount of the public's money on what essentially is

(01:23:04):
a massive waste of time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Eight forty five The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Mike. Have you seen the full video of Sam Kerr
at the police station on YouTube? It was absolutely disgusting, nasty,
entitled and racist. She played every card, including the victim card. Yes, Ross,
of course I've seen it, but that doesn't make it illegal.
Just because you're a pratt doesn't mean you get charged
with it. In the fact you got found out not
guilty proves beyond the shadow of it out. I would
have thoughtould wasted time. The whole thing was Mike Damian
O'Connor labor MP drove attractor up the steps of Parliament

(01:23:36):
are nineteen years ago, Carl wrong. And so this is
how things become things that never really happened.

Speaker 12 (01:23:42):
There was a land drove attractor though right, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
A landrove attractor that it was a massy Ferguson. So
the point of it is it was Shane A. Dern
who won the by election, if you remember. But Damian
and O'Connor never drove the tractor. And I wasn't even
referring to the tractor. I was referring to an alleged
event with a land drover in the early part of
the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 12 (01:23:59):
Year ninety. It was supposed to be was it forty eight?
I think so?

Speaker 20 (01:24:02):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Never happened? According to Jerry urban Myth. They went to
the library, couldn't find it.

Speaker 12 (01:24:07):
I'm saying, no, wonder if Seymour even did it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Now exactly did he do it?

Speaker 16 (01:24:11):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Really there?

Speaker 12 (01:24:12):
And also is going up two steps? Is that really
driving it up?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
The steps? The steps?

Speaker 9 (01:24:17):
Was it?

Speaker 12 (01:24:17):
I was saying to say.

Speaker 17 (01:24:18):
Before that, you know, in terms of the amount of
trouble you get into, it should be how many steps
you go up, like like all the way up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
All the way up? Fired, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:24:26):
But he got two two steps, So that's like two
steps amount of trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
That's pretty It's with the police, is it? And what
are they going to do about it? Mordi, Mike, can
you add a car segment? To the show talk classic
current market trends. Cheers, No, I can't. I wouldn't mind it.
But if I get time one day, I'll tell you
about my current car dilemma, which is involving me inheriting
an old car and needing to find a lot of
parts around the world that don't exist. But I don't

(01:24:51):
have time to tell you about that. I do have
time to tell you that we're a little more corrupt
than we used to be. And like the sell' who
we talked about earlier on this morning, each year a
reporter's put out. This year it's a corruption report. We've
slipped to fourth, which, under normal circumstances and all things considered,
I would have thought it's not bad because a lot
of countries in the world, and fourth isn't bad. Number
one in the world is Denmark, isn't it always Finland?

(01:25:11):
Number two? That's that Scandinavian thing, A lot of salmon,
a lot of vodka and hot tups. I think that
leads to lack of corruption. I think there's a link there.
Number three Singapore or Singapore overtook us to become slightly
less corrupt than we are. We're number four. Some of
the points they make I think are interesting. Lack of
transparency about lobbying. I think that's genuine use of urgency.

(01:25:34):
I'm not sure that's true. Issues of party financing. I mean,
you're never going to get around that, really, are you.
You know, every time they change the rules, I think
about changing the rules, it comes back to do you
want the state to fund all the parties? And the
answers know so, therefore someone's going to fund them, So
what are the rules? And then ensues the argument limitations
on the scope of the Official Information Act. I didn't
think there was a limitation. I mean, every manners dog

(01:25:55):
uses the Official Information Act at nauseum. Corruption and public
procurement and contracting. Seen a bit of that at local level,
immigration cases, including migrant exploitation. The story about that in
the paper this morning. Are you still used word paper? Hey? Ass?
From the paper this morning, isn't it financial institutions were
not adequately identifying risks around transacting with politically exposed persons.

(01:26:17):
I don't even know what that means. The story this
morning was some poor migrant was exploited by a member
of their own family in play and paid five dollars
an hour that's called pocket money, isn't it isn't that
every parent's job basically to do that, but once they
become adults it gets a bit illegal. Nine minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
The make Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa News
togs Head been now just got.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
A note and from the Drive for Hearts team. This
is the probably the most talked about land drover and
the history of land drivers since Seymour's scenario. Donations to
our charity to help prevent rheumatic heart disease have really
picked up, So that's encouraging. Craig Irwin's behind that, so
I'm very excited for you. So I've nothing goods come
out of it from media ranks. The media needs to

(01:27:02):
move on from that stuff. I feel Luxeon's frustration around
the side shows. There was a time in this country
and I'm not against a side show. Who doesn't love
a side show and that's kind of fun, But the
media don't have a sense of humor, and at some
point you've got to get a sense of humor and
realize that that Seymour, like him or not politically, is

(01:27:22):
one of those guys who does some stuff for the
sake of doing it because he's a fun guy. That's
just what it is. And driving up a land driver upsteps.
Come on, ask yourself, you would do it? You know
you would, And so he's like us, so you know,
stop taking yourself so damn seriously. So if they've got
some more money out of it, fantastic five minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Now trending now with MS Warehouse The Real House of Fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
You're driving though. Mark Tapper Very Sadley has died. He
was just forty four years old. Former rally driver, multiple
rallies to will drive News Little Rally Champion back in
two thousand and seven, first key to Rid the Pirelli
Star Driver Award of eight before he went on to
competing the wr See the tributes to Flying Hayden Padden
of course Motorsport New Zealand plenty of others. There's the
ironic moment in one of the videos that's doing in

(01:28:07):
the rounds is actually one of Mark's crashes. So this
is the New Zealand Rally for twenty ten. He's leading
the rally at this particular point until he turns a
corner and he sees the spectator mooning him.

Speaker 22 (01:28:24):
Five right minus doesn't fall, they find it, don't go
why clip five sex right and short thirty the short
clift plus thirty five left don't go ye plus.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Looks right minor.

Speaker 14 (01:28:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
You can see why. Of all the sports, I mean,
you know you can. You can admire people to drive
around the track and stuff, but to do that on
a cow on rebel is quite something. And that's before
someone gets his ass.

Speaker 10 (01:29:05):
I've always saw it.

Speaker 17 (01:29:06):
Yeah, the navigator shouting out those directions. How much can
that positively help?

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Well, it's a it's a good question, a lot as
the answer. But I don't understand, and he didn't and
he didn't warn him.

Speaker 12 (01:29:16):
He didn't say around the next corner.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
This is the guy d write three long ass outs.
He didn't say, ah, dear, But well, sad news, very
sad news. Mark Tapa and Tapa has done at the edge.
Put it for But if you go back to two
thousand and eight, very young men, when he was driving
this wasn't he right? That's us done for the day.
I only have done enough damage good news as I've

(01:29:38):
had the boss look at the how to log in
at the Christie's. I'm in, I'm in, and so the
auctions in the next twenty four hours, so we'll keep
you posted on that. Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
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