Full Show Podcast: 2 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ken, then Duplicy Ellen on the Mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
With a Veda, retirement, communities, Life your Way, news togs, dead.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Be Morning, and welcome Today. Things in the Middle East
have dramatically escalated in just the last couple of hours.
Irans fired missiles on Israel. The question now is whether
the US gets involved in ratchets this up even further.
We're going to go to the Middle East aff to seven,
also going to talk to the Education Minister about the
latest curriculum complaints from teachers. Are we getting the world's

(00:33):
best athletes, by the way coming here in four years?
Sounds like it might be happening. And Mark and Jinny
do the politics after.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Rate Heather Duplicy Allen, Look.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
That decision yesterday to say no to the supermarket merger
was really the only option available, was the right call
to make. I think, what is the one thing that
we keep on hearing that we need more of in
the supermarket sector. It's competition, right, So the Commerce Commission
can hardly be saying one minute that what we need
is more competition and then in the next minute reducing
competition and a merger was actually going to do that,

(01:05):
at least on the face of it. I mean, that's
all we've got. This may go to the High Court.
Until it goes to the High Court, all we've got
is to look at the available facts and judge it
by what we see on the face of it. But
as it stands, what it looks like it was going
to do was reduce competition, because that merger was going
to take New Zealand from three big supermarket buyers down
to two. And it really doesn't matter that there is

(01:27):
some sort of a geographical split where two buy in
the North Island and two buy in the South Island
and so on. If you've got a supplier who wants
to get the best deal for their product when they
rock up to the supermarket to sell it, it doesn't
matter whether they are in the North of the South Island.
They were going to try the whole country and they
were going to end up with only two buyers, not three.
And while that is strictly not a competition problem as

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far as the consumer is concerned, I mean, it may
reduce what you're able to get on the shelves, this
is not strictly a competition problem. Though it does pretty
well demonstrate what happens when you merge food stuffs North
and South Island. I think the thing to really note
in that decision released yesterday was the COMMUS Commission was
saying that allowing the merger to go ahead would make
it easier for the one new big food Stuffs to

(02:11):
basically and the existing Woolworth supermarkets to basically coordinate pricing
with each other. I mean, isn't that basically implying that
they were going to collude or that there was a
fear that they were going to collude. Now that is
a very very big call from the Commuce Commission, and
if that was to happen, that would be a disaster,
and the risk of that happening yet of course, to
be tested in court, does make you wonder if there

(02:31):
really was any other option than simply saying no. Yesterday,
what news of.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
The world in ninety seconds right, Israel and.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
The US are on high alerts. Israeli citizens are warned
of an imminent ballistic missile attack.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
We have dealt with this kind of threat in the past,
and we are going to deal with it now. I
would like to call upon all Israelis to continue and
behave responsibly as you've done throughout the war.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now, obviously that missile attack has happened. More than two
hundred and nearly two hundred have been launched. This is
the Israeli defense minister pumping up his troops before the
Lebanon Grand Assault.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Zoza, this is your mission, if we will employ all
that is needed, your forces, other forces, from the air,
from the sea, and also from the land.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Nitnyaho had some stern words for Iran.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
There is nowhere in the Middle East Israel cannot reach.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
There is nowhere we will not go to protect our
people and protect our country. With every passing moment, the
regime is bringing you, the noble Persian people, closer to
the Abyss.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
He also sees his water is with his Boller, not
with Lebanon, which is why they've been doing what they
described as precise strikes.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
Since we've been here.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
You cann't hear that.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
Now we have heard the steady beat of outgoing artillery fire,
rocket fire, and then every now and again you can
see the orange flash of the impacts.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Risky are battling the terrain in North Carolina over in
the US as they search for survivors. Cut off by
Hurricane Helene that are.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Describing this as Katrina and the Mouth.

Speaker 9 (04:09):
We're working with some of our partners to bring in
air assets.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Begin the helicopter is.

Speaker 10 (04:14):
We're seeing that it's a helicopter the only way to get.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Now, the US economy are their a fears could take
a hit if a major port strike goes ahead and
the Trucking Association has their eyes firmly on who they
think is to blame.

Speaker 10 (04:28):
You're encouraging this union to strike and shut down this
economy when ourtha Southeast United States is recovering from a
natural disaster. This is the worst time to have thirty
six ports shut down our economy.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
They're obviously talking about by it. And finally, if you're
known among your group is the one to fall in
love hard and fast, we now have a term for
you that we haven't had before. Psychologists have dubbed the
behavior emophilia, which is falling in love fast and falling
in love often. Now, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
This isn't a mental disorder. You'll be pleased to know,

(05:04):
but it can lead to people ignoring red flags, perjuring
themselves for a partner, or making them more likely to
be unfaithful.

Speaker 11 (05:10):
I always thought emophilia was just a fear of emos.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Could that be has probably that as well, And that
is the news of the world in ninety seconds now
on the back of what is happening in Israel. So
we had we had a warning from the White House
I would say, maybe two or three hours ago to
suggest that these strikes were imminent. And on the strength
of that and that alone, that's even before the missile
started to arrive in Israel, the price of oil shot up.

(05:35):
Price of a barrel of crude oil went up three
percent to above seventy dollars US a barrel. I'd imagine
it's got a lot higher to go now that the
missiles have actually started landing. The fear there is that
the escalation may lead to Iran block and key exports
of crude oil from the Gulf, which is what absolutely
nobody needs. Thirteen past six.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
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Speaker 3 (06:02):
We're going to talk about Casey Costalog. You've got to
get you across it before we have a chat to her.
After half past six here the wires Israel. Such a
fixation there are other conflicts in the world. It's the
it's the likelihood of big players like the US getting
involved that really escalates things beyond what the other conflicts
may or may not do. Right now, it's sixteen past six.
Andrew tellaher Jmio elf is with us. Andrew, good morning

(06:24):
to you.

Speaker 12 (06:25):
Yeah, morning, heav right?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Was it a good or not a good? Gdt aultralem
Ah kind of like it?

Speaker 12 (06:30):
Kind of like it.

Speaker 13 (06:31):
I mean, I've been quietly optimistic about the role that agram,
particularly dairy is going to play in sort of lifting
us out of.

Speaker 14 (06:37):
Our current economic funk.

Speaker 13 (06:39):
But is that is reliant to some degree on these
commodity prices sort of hanging in there, and that at
the moment that does appear to be the case. So
overnight we've seen a one point two percent rise in
the Global Dairy Trade Index, which sort of continues I
would call them sort of settled and steadily increasing results
in the global dairy trade auctions.

Speaker 14 (06:58):
We've sort of seen that since April.

Speaker 13 (07:00):
Had a bit of a chocker in July, but generally,
you know, I'd like to say we've got a bit
of a trend in place, and I would describe this
auction as being uneventful and we like that, and the
composition of the outcome was pretty good as well. I
haven't seen the breakdown of the bids that have gone
in yet, but it'd be good to see if that
China demand is still there.

Speaker 14 (07:20):
But the supporting acts are still looking strong.

Speaker 13 (07:23):
Butter milk powder up five percent, Chedder down at three
point eight percent. The outlier was Mozzarella, which was down
seven point seven percent.

Speaker 14 (07:31):
I don't know what's happening there. Look at the main players.

Speaker 13 (07:33):
Those skim milk powder foul zero point six percent, so
not a significant fall. I'd call that stable, and whole
milk powder very much. The key ingredient up three percent.
That's the highest price we've seen that in a couple
of years. So I have it all in all a
solid result.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, you got to take that now, the ends and
I confidence surer that we got yesterday. Was it enough?
Do you think to dash hopes of a fifty basis
point cut?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (07:57):
Look, okay, yeah, we'll go straight to the juggler, go
straight to the RBNZ implications.

Speaker 14 (08:03):
I'm sort of I think you could argue the case
for both.

Speaker 13 (08:06):
I think you can argue a pretty strong case for
twenty five points or a pretty strong case for fifty points.
Maybe it tips the balance towards fifty just I guess
looking at the looking at the survey in a bit
of detail, your headline confidence improved, so your direction of
travel there is very much consistent with what we've seen
in the AMZI business outlook.

Speaker 14 (08:27):
The headline number is still in negative teratures or net
five percent.

Speaker 13 (08:30):
Of firms expecting a deterioration in general economic conditions. Although
that's still negative, it's a big move from the net
forty percent that we saw who were negative in the
GYM quarter.

Speaker 12 (08:41):
I think, Heather that.

Speaker 13 (08:42):
This report carries sort of a feeling of conditions consistent
with moderating inflation, consistent with moderating wage growth, and the
rbn ZAI will note that they're like that. The measure
of firm's own activity points to continued weakness in demand.
You got thirty one percent affirm reporting a decline and
activity in their ownbers in September quarter.

Speaker 14 (09:04):
But it's what's important is looking ahead.

Speaker 13 (09:06):
So that's negative thirty one or sorry, thirty one percent
reporting a decline in that quarter.

Speaker 12 (09:11):
But when we go.

Speaker 13 (09:12):
Forward, only two percent expecting weaker activity in the next quarter,
so there's a difference between the here and now and
where they think they're going. Look, we also saw something
else we also saw in the A and Z business outlook.
The retail sector is feeling much more chipper about expected activity.
So that's that's really going to lend a hand or
that has been lending a hand to this.

Speaker 12 (09:32):
Just the overall result.

Speaker 13 (09:34):
So the September quarter was weak, but a thirteen percent
of retails are feeling positive about the general economic outlook
and a percent expecting demand to improve. Detail around pricing intentions,
that's important for the RBNZ they've fallen, that's important for inflation.
Only seven percent of respondents intend to raise their selling prices,

(09:54):
and Heather, that's the lowest read for that particular outcome
outside of the lockdown parents since we've seen since two
thousand and fifteen.

Speaker 12 (10:02):
So that suggests as little inflation pressure.

Speaker 13 (10:04):
And when I look at the indicators around wages as well,
it looks to me like wage growth is moderating two
and you can see that only five percent of respondents
say labor is a major constraint.

Speaker 12 (10:14):
Now that all adds up to a week labor market.

Speaker 13 (10:16):
Yeah, look on conservative, Heather, I think if twenty five
is probably the outcome, but.

Speaker 12 (10:22):
You could argue a pretty good case for fifty as well.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Very interesting stuff. Hey give me the numbers, Andrew sure.

Speaker 13 (10:27):
Now, market's obviously taking the Middle East, the lift in
the Middle East tensions that are obviously mindful of that.
So we are seeing the major US in disease down
a little bit at the moment.

Speaker 12 (10:38):
The Dow Jones down two hundred and eighty.

Speaker 13 (10:39):
Points, that's about two thirds percent forty two thousand and
fifty three. The S and P five hundred down just
over one percent five six nine four. Then that's that
getting hit a bit harder three hundred down three hundred
and eighty two points, it's over two percent seventeen thousand,
eight hundred and seven. Overnight, the Forts of one hundred
gain forty points eight two seven six. The Nicke was

(10:59):
up just under two percent three eight sixty five to one.
There Shanghai Composite well no trading overnight because China National Day.
The ASEX two hundred was down sixty one points yesterday
three coarters percent eight to eight, and the NZCX fifty
yesterday gained about a third of a percent up forty
three points twelve thy four hundred.

Speaker 12 (11:18):
And sixty six.

Speaker 13 (11:19):
Now Kiwi dollar a little bit weaker against the US,
because when you get issues like this, you get strong dollar.

Speaker 12 (11:24):
You get this sort of flight to safety.

Speaker 13 (11:26):
So Qi dollar points six two seven, four point nine
to one three three against the ossie point five sixty
seven eight against the euro, point four to seven three
six pounds ninety point one eight against the Japanese end
gold two thousand, six hundred and sixty five and year
Brent crewed seventy four dollars and seventy three cents.

Speaker 12 (11:42):
It's gone up a little bit.

Speaker 14 (11:43):
The big fear has always been that we saw.

Speaker 13 (11:45):
An extension of this conflict, Heather, and that it went
outside of being a localized conflict, and that is going
to be important for the oil price over the next
few days.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Already having an impact day, Andrew, thank you so much. Mate,
really appreciated That's Andrew Kallaher of JMI, wells listen to
that situation. So the IDF says nearly two hundred missiles
have now been launched into Israel Byran as I was
telling you earlier. They also say they've managed to intercept.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
It.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Sounds like potentially up to about one hundred and fifty
drones outside of their air space as well. There are
a bunch of impact sites that have been reported in
several parts of Israel, which means obviously some of these
missiles and drones and stuff are managing to make it through.
They have also issued to their citizens are Life Saving
text Alert, which basically instructs citizens of Israel civilians to

(12:33):
in some parts of Israel, get into protected spaces in
order to be able to save their lives. Six twenty two,
The Vike.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
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Speaker 3 (12:47):
Right Casey Costello. So yesterday I was talking to you
about Casey Costello and the pressure that the government's coming
under over the tobacco policies, and in the stories this
week in particular, I mean you'll be across how it's
been sort of playing out of the last few weeks
and months. Stories this week are about the two hundred
and sixteen million dollar tax break that Casey Costello is
giving tobacco tobacco companies. But because it is for only

(13:08):
one product, it's a heat tod tobacco thing like it's
some it sits halfway between I would say a cigi
in a vape. So it's you chuck what looks like
a cigy into this thing, but rather than burning it, it
sort of heats it to kind of like a vapor point. Anyway,
because it's just for this one product that this tax
break is given, and because only one company really supplies

(13:29):
this product in New Zealand, being Philip Morris, it's basically
a tax break for Philip Morris of two hundred and
sixteen million dollars. Anyway, we'll talk to Casey Costello, who'll
be with us after half past six on that.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's six twenty six, right, trending now Warehouse the real
house of frequences.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Now, if you ask the average person out on the street,
they tell you, yes, absolutely, New Zealand's groceries are more
expensive here than overseas. And now we've actually got the
research to back up what you're feeling, Ossie. Researchers have
compared the price of common grocery items. Okay, so what
I just did was the wrong segment Glenn just told

(14:05):
me on my ear, which Glen, can you confirm is
the first major mistake in two.

Speaker 11 (14:10):
And so this is what this is, what's really trending?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
What's go on there? Play it?

Speaker 15 (14:15):
Well?

Speaker 11 (14:15):
No, no, that that what's happening right now that you've
made your first major mistake. We've got to this far
in the week, we're nearly halfway through the week, and
you've started reading the bears instead of trending now.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
And I've threatened to do it every day up to now,
and then today I didn't check with you guys, and
now we don't have time.

Speaker 11 (14:30):
No, no, no. But the great news about that is we
don't have to find it trending now for later on
in the show because we haven't done it now.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
One just before.

Speaker 11 (14:37):
Hopefully now that doesn't keep people lessen.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I'm going to get news is next.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
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Speaker 1 (14:56):
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Speaker 3 (15:03):
News togs eDV update on the situation in Israel. IDF
spokesperson Daniel Hagari has just been on TV. He says
that there are no injuries that have been reported as
a result of these missile strikes going into Israel from Iran,
which obviously suggests that the Iron Dome is working. Iran
has also said if Israel responds to these strikes, that
will face crushing attacks. So the situation pretty serious. As

(15:25):
we've been telling you. We're going to go and have
a chat to Habib Bta, middle East journalist who's actually
left the Middle East and gone to New York, but
sundes of things for his own safety. He'll bear with
us after seven. It's twenty two away from seven.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Profressor keeps piling on this government over its handling of
smoking policies. This week, the reports have focused on tax
cuts that the government is giving one tobacco product. It's
a heated tobacco product made by Philip Morris, and the
cuts are to the tune of two hundred and sixteen
million dollars. Associate Health Minister Casey Costello is with us
on this Casey, Hello, Hi, how are you well?

Speaker 9 (16:02):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Casey.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
This feels like a complete non story to me because
I'm reading this morning that Philip Morris has actually just
pulled this product off the shelves.

Speaker 16 (16:11):
Yeah, and this is the unfortunate thing. The noise around
the two hundred and sixteen million was a contingency sum
our total excise collected was for related tobacco products not smoking,
was about six million, just under six million in twenty
twenty three, so the and heated tobacco was a portion
of that six million. So this two hundred and sixteen

(16:32):
was a contingency some put into the budget to capture
in case there was this massive turnaround, but there won't be.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And as you've said, now, turn around me would like
every single one of us will suddenly take the fags up.

Speaker 16 (16:47):
Yeah. Well, this is the thing is that the only
country that they could find to compare us to was
Japan around using heated tobacco as a seasation tool. Japan
doesn't have vapane, so that was the differential, and that
was kind of where things got distorted. So this two
hundred and sixteen million was you know, it was never

(17:08):
going to be that. And we and you know people
need to be reminded, we have no excise on vaping
at the moment, so you know, this is the differential.
We were looking for ce station tools. You know, we
lost the discussion which to get people to quit smoking.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
We're saying there's no xcize on vaping. Therefore, you were
basically taking the x sie off the heater tobacco product
and putting them on a level playing field.

Speaker 16 (17:29):
Well, we were trying to make it. We're only taking
fifty percent off, and we were trying to lock to
see if you know, you've got hardcore smokers that vaping
hasn't worked for. So creating a differential between the price
of a packet of cigarettes and a vaping product a
heated tobacco product was to see if we could get

(17:50):
people who were hard core addictive smokers, and that's the
people we're targeting to quit smoking.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
And we're on a journeys. Is there any other company?
Are there any other heater tobacco on the market other
than the one that's been pulled off in New Zealand?

Speaker 16 (18:03):
In the in the world there is, but not in
Well and this is where we know there are other
heatd tobacco products in New Zealand that aren't but I
you know, I don't know what the products are. And
what we were trying to see is if there's an
opportunity to present these alternate products. We know they were
being used, but.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
This was the big player.

Speaker 16 (18:23):
Yeah, this is the big place.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Is it going to a launch?

Speaker 16 (18:28):
Well, this is what I don't know. I am this
emphasizing I have no relationship to the tobacco industry. I
don't know what they're doing. I have I'm completely blind
to what they're doing. Well, they're looking at.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
To believe because I know what they're doing, and you're
the minister, so I suspect you know a lot more
than you're letting off. I've been told that this is
going to relaunch because the particular products being pulled off
the shelves falls foul of your new rules. They will
relaunch and it will be in line with your new rules.

Speaker 16 (18:54):
Well, and this is what I'm hoping is that we
do get alternate products. This is what I want to achieve,
is ulternate products to get people to stop smoking, and
if the market is available, that there is a demand,
which I think there is, because there are people who
want to quit smoking, and bathing hasn't worked, and the
other tobacco Mcteaine replacement treatments haven't worked. So we're trying

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to get these hardcore addicted smokers.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
To have something to me. Okay, you guys have been
copying it in various media outlets for the last few
days over this, and frankly for weeks over the tobacco
policy right, perfectly legitimate situation. The explanation that we're getting
today makes perfect sense. But why is this the first
that we're hearing of it. Why aren't you guys fronting
on this and defending yourselves.

Speaker 16 (19:38):
Well, well, I have been This is the point, and
this is the Health Coalition. They became fixated on the
tobacco industry, not upon what we were trying to do.
And I have been putting this information out. I have
been talking to everyone that will listen. All of the
information I've sent out has including these details around the

(20:00):
work we're doing. And I've been spending all my time
dealing with the people who are trying to get people
to quit smoking, providers, the frontline workers, what tools do
they need to get people to stop smoking? And older
continue to do that.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Case I appreciate your time, mate, have a good day.
That's Casey Costello, Associate Health Minister ges. Don't get me
started on the Health coalitionalt here or very few people
irritate me as much as that lot currently. We will
talk about it sometime. A very cool thing I need
to just get you across really quickly. Apparently work is
underway to bring the world Athletic Indoor Championships here in
four years time. You would have heard this in the

(20:34):
news because the Minister for Sport, Chris Bishop, while he
was over in Paris for the Olympics, met with Sebastian
co who is a legend, living legend and head of
World Athletics. And it sounds positive. And what this would
mean is we get all the big names and athletics
coming here maybe in four years time. So I'm going
to have a chat to Athletics New Zealand CEO Cam
Mitchell about that. After seven, it's seventeen away from seven the.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 3 (21:02):
A b hither on Casey Castello. I'm getting the impression
that the government don't realize how much the media is
undermining them. Penny. I think they do know full well
what's going on. It's just how on earth do you
battle this massive thing going on with you? Fourteen away
from seven.

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Speaker 3 (21:22):
Richard Arnold, US correspondent with US Now Richard, Hello, Wing,
Heather Right, what does the US do well, they are.

Speaker 17 (21:29):
Trying to assess what is occurring. There have been two
Iranian salvos so far in Israel, hundreds of Iranian missiles fired.
We are seeing the northern part of Tel Aviv under
attack and numbers of these missiles have been brought down
by Israeli defenses. There are also reports of missiles over
high for in Jerusalem. So this is in central and
also southern Israel, where the country has air bases located,

(21:51):
but often in highly populated areas, so all kinds of
things can happen. The Pentagon warned that air bases and
intel command sites could be targeted. Now, back in April,
you recall Iran also fired a barrage of missiles into Israel,
and there was little damage in the country. Just three
of some three hundred of missiles at that time got
through because of the defenses in Israel and from the

(22:12):
US and the Brits and others. Back in April as well,
in Israeli leader Nettino, who took US concerns on board
and did not immediately respond, and then Israel reacted in
a scale down way. You know, it was twenty three
years ago when they coined the phrase October surprise. That is,
when Jimmy Cardo, who actually turns one hundred years old
this very day, was running for the White House against

(22:33):
Ronald Reagan. As American hostages were being held by Iran.
The Reagan team feared that Carta would be able to
get the hostages out right before the elections and win
the White House again. But instead, of course, Iran freed
the fifty two remaining hostages just minutes after Reagan was inaugurated.
I raised this because Iran, the same player, has put
itself at the center of the situation once again after

(22:56):
their proxy leader of Hasbala Hassan Israela was asassinated in
that Israeli air strike four days ago, and Israeli forces
then prepped for a broader military move into Lebanon. So
we might be in something of the same and in
some ways a very different situation now as Netanyao, who
has been preparing for some kind of Israeli ground move

(23:18):
into southern Lebanon in the state. But Iran says these
strikes were in response to the killing of top leaders
of Hezbolah. Well, no surprise with that. Iran is being
precise with their statements. President Biden held talks just prior
to the Iranian missile firings. They had about three hours
before the missile attacks that they put out the US
alert that these things might be happening. So he held

(23:39):
talks with Vice President Harrison with the National Security team
at the White House. US pledged to aid Israel in
repelling missile strikes, then warned there would be quote severe
consequences for Iran if this flares into a wider war.
At the same time, Israeli leader Netanyao, who has not
responded to American cause for ceasefire, and Netanyah who said yesterday,
when Iran is finally free, and that moment will come

(24:01):
a lot sooner than people think, things will be very different.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
So what is that foreshadow?

Speaker 17 (24:06):
Last April, Israel showed its ability to penetrate Iranian air space,
so Israel could target Iran's energy structure, then nuclear program.
There's growing sentiment in Israel to go against Iran directly. Meantime,
once again, we're in the final throes of the US
election campaign, just weeks to go. The rival contenders for
vice president are going to meet in a few hours

(24:27):
here for their campaign debate. Harris's running mate Tim Walls
has been governor of Minnesota, known for that folks he
coached like style of his.

Speaker 15 (24:35):
JD.

Speaker 17 (24:35):
Vans is a one time Yale debater with an aggressive approach.
It has often said the VP debate doesn't matter this time,
it could be far more significant.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Who do you think has the advantage because Richard it
feels to me like coach Waltz does because he's a
much nicer chap.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, it depends.

Speaker 17 (24:54):
We've seen Jdvans be very aggressive in various encounters, but
at the same time, most notably, he had an on
air debate with Dana Bash of CNN which was really
difficult to watch because it was so raucers. But while
he was successful in his debating style, he said in
the throes of that that he would sometimes create issues

(25:16):
like this claim that there might be Haitians eating dogs
and cats in small towns, and so, you know, we
have to wait and see exactly how this plays out.
The Advanced team say they have been preparing quite a deal.
The Walls team say that he's a little bit nervous
about this, but both of them have been in the

(25:38):
public arena for a while.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah too, right, Hey, Richard, good to talk to you.
Thank you, mate. That's Richard Arnold, US correspondent. Look at it.
It appears that that attack on Israel launched by Iran
is over the idea IF has now told civilians they
can exit bomb shelters. Another thing also happened in Tel
Aviv just in the last few hours, which may or
may not be related unclear at the moment. They are
calling it a terror attack, but a couple of gunmen

(26:02):
appear to have opened fire, They've been taken out. There
are eight dead as a result of that, nine away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Heather Duplicy, Ellen Pond the Mike Costing Breakfast with Bailey's
Real Estate news Talks.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Listen on the president US presidential vice presidential debate. Normally
these things don't matter, this is what Richard was just
talking about before. Normally these things don't matter at all, right,
But this time around, it feels like it's a whole
lot more significant. And that's largely for a couple of reasons.
The first, I think, obviously, is the fact that we
haven't got that many We've got no more presidential debates
in the US, and we haven't had that many, So

(26:36):
you know, it's another debate that kind of fills that gap.
So it's interesting. But also I think it's because there
are still a lot of people who are probably unconvinced
by either of these candidates. Like there's just that sliver
was like one hundred thousand voters that were up for
play or whatever, and because it is such a tight election,
those one hundred thousand voters may in fact swing things.
I feel like Coach Waltz has got the advantage just

(26:58):
in terms of likability, because the more you I jd Vance,
the less you like the guy. He's obviously a very
smart guy, and he's obviously got a lot going firman
and knows what he's doing. But he is such a tryhard,
isn't he. I mean to the extent that he actually
even dresses like Donald like literally exactly the same outfit
as Donald Trump. The guy is if I was Donald Trump,

(27:18):
I'd be starting to get annoyed by that, like the
sucking up. It's just far too transparent. Anyway, that's just
my vibe. You can see why it's a good thing
I'm not voting in the US, because I'd be voting
solely on that. I'd be like, I don't like that
you dressed like him. Your minim not voting for you anyway.
We're gonna have a chat to somebody who actually does
know what they're talking about.

Speaker 9 (27:37):
That.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Who's that person is Mattterrell, who is Marco Rubio's former
chief of stuff. It's gonna be with us after half
past seven. Actually on that I have a little bit
of on the vibes jd Vance loses, but potentially on
the policy he wins, which is obviously the more important thing.
And I will run you through that when I get
a chance, hopefully in the next half hour. It's five
away from seven.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
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rely on imports, et cetera. But it's also because we've
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And guess who the higher labor costs for a business
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up we have the news, so let's go to the
Middle East. We'll have a chat to Habi Batah find
out just how serious this is in terms of the
US getting involved, and the teacher unions are having another

(29:30):
crack at the government's overhaul of the curriculum of the
Education Minister on that shortly.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Heather
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Speaker 1 (29:45):
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Speaker 3 (29:52):
Good morning to you. Right, we'll go straight to the
Middle East, where the situation is moving fast. In just
the last few hours, Iran has sent up to three
hundred and fifty missiles and drones into Israel, setting off
the sound of explosions and sirens. Now this is in response,

(30:15):
Iran says to Israel killing senior Chzboula figures rather than
necessarily yesterday's ground invasion of Lebanon with US now as
journalist and founder of new site by Rootreport dot com,
Habib Batahabib, Hello, hi there, what do you reckon happens?

Speaker 11 (30:28):
Now?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Does the US get involved?

Speaker 18 (30:32):
Well, I mean it's hard to say what's on the
mind of US military officials. The US might already be
involved in the US is quite involved in sharing intelligence
with Israel, and there has been talk about all kinds
of you know, billions of dollars worth of weapons. All
the bombs that are being dropped are American made. So
I said, well, I say the US has already involved,
it's unclear if they're going to be involved in to

(30:52):
more extent.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Israel says no one was killed because basically the Iron
Dome worked. Iransys eighty percent of the missiles hit their targets,
which is more likely to be true.

Speaker 18 (31:03):
Well, I'm watching videos online of the missiles hitting the ground,
several missiles. I've seen at least five or six of
the missiles hit the ground. So it depends on what
you're watching. And there have been videos of missiles touching down.
So I think it's important to, you know, not always
take the Israeli government's position as fact, because it could

(31:23):
also be a more propaganda. In a time of war,
militaries say things that will strike fear into their enemies
and not cause any kind of fear into their own
population and try to reinforce, you know, a kind of
confidence in their governments. So you know, there is the
missiles are landing, we have seen them videos of that.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
The smart thing for Israel to do right now is
not to respond to this, obviously at the risk of escalating.
The thing further is that what Israel does do you
think it just doesn't respond.

Speaker 17 (31:51):
Well.

Speaker 18 (31:52):
I mean Israel has shown that it has no acts
with impunity. I mean Israel has not been stopped, you know,
only more billions and billions at all and more weapons
are pouring on Israel, so Israel has no incentive to
stop it. Seems Israel has the full backing of you know,
the European, the Western allies of the United States. There's
been no real strong criticism, no no pausing in the

(32:12):
weapons shipment. So I think Israel believes that it can
do whatever it wants.

Speaker 19 (32:16):
It can.

Speaker 18 (32:16):
It can flatten Lebanona, has has flattened eighty percent of Gaza,
and we're seeing huge neighborhoods and Bario being flatten and
we're seeing civilian areas being targeted there. There there's no
distinction often between UH military targets and civilian targets. So
you know, Israel has been acting with impunity and it
seems that that's set to continue.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is it possible that Iran has achieved what it wanted
to achieve, which woul simply being seen to act right
because they've done that before. Is it possible there five
these missiles and had a few spots here and there,
and then they just let it go.

Speaker 18 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know Iran, you know,
it would be difficult for Iran to take on the
United States and Israel at the same time, you know,
so they probably do want to do some kind of
limited action, it seems.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
But you know, the.

Speaker 18 (32:59):
Rockets are a major rockets and missiles and they're falling down,
and people, you know, in other Arab countries, you know,
in the Palestinians Lebanese probably feel a bit of retribution
now because they've been that's what they've been dealing with.
Although you know, it's important to note that the missiles
that Israel drops on the Palestinians and Lebanese there are
no bomb shelters for them to go to. So Israelis

(33:21):
are very well prepared. They get a lot of warning,
they have all kinds of radar systems, but most Lebanies
and Palestinians have no warning maybe a few minutes at maximum,
not enough time to evacuate, and they're often bombed to
the next place that they go, so it's a very
uneven battlefield.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Abe, it's good to talk to you. Thank you for
filling us in. Habi Bataho's journalists and a founder of
Beirut Reports dot com. The UN has just let it
be known that they're going to be meeting tomorrow about
the situation. Interestingly, it takes twelve minutes for a missile
that's fired in Iran to reach Israel, and it appears
that most of them would have been intercepted over Syria
eleven past seven either. So teaching unions are having another

(34:00):
crack at the government's overhaul of the curriculum. The PPTA
has got its annual conference on this week and they've
released a survey revealing that most of the secondary school
teachers there aren't happy with the NCEEA Level one roll
out with us now, as Education Minister Erica Stanford, Erica,
good morning, good morning, any of the how I see,
I'm well, thank you. I see you had to go
and chance to them yesterday or the other day. Did
they give you a warm reception or was it a

(34:20):
bit rough?

Speaker 9 (34:22):
See yesterday and actually it was an exceptionally good conception.
I had a great time. They were wonderful. I go
very very well with Chris Abercrombie and the PPTA, and
to be sited them technically, the grumblings that they're having
at the moment is not with a curriculum, because there
is no curriculum. It's with the NCEEA changes to Level one,
and that is aimed at the previous government, and I

(34:43):
agree wholeheartedly with them. When I came into office last year,
I saw some results that showed that well over half
of schools felt not prepared or only somewhat prepared for
next year's Level one. Saw this and then I started
fielding calls from Principles and just saying we don't know
what to teach next year because there are no subject

(35:03):
learning outcomes. We don't have any exemplars. So we had
six weeks to scramble with the subject associations to write
subject learning outcomes over Christmas. Associations did an amazing job
and posh ENZQA to get those exemplars ready that weren't
going to be ready till May. This was a disastrous
rollout by the previous government of NCAT. Well, we did

(35:28):
those subject learning outcomes and we did the exemplars and
the the sector of the PUSS for next year to
make a few changes which we have around the types
of assessments we've moved to do that. The bigger problem
has only really come to light at the back end
of this year with the fact that they don't like

(35:50):
the big slots of small, smaller, fewer, sorry larger, fewer,
bigger standards rather than smaller and fewer standards which we
moved away from. So I've been in contact with the
lots of principles and they said, there's nothing much you
can do for next year. But I've put together a
group of experienced principles from around the country who are

(36:10):
now working at pace on MCEEA changes and what we
can do. I've also asked to Ero to write a
full report on what happened with Level one rollout and
in CAA overall. It's coming to me in November, but
I've seen the early indications and it's pretty damning.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Okay, well, best of luck dealing with this. Eric is Stanford,
the Education Minister. Heather duper c La, you remember Auckland's
overnight parking changes in the debarcle around that back in May, right,
it surprised everybody. Auckland Transport announced that they would that
they would be charging for parking in the city overnight.
They'll be doing it very shortly, blindsided everyone, blindsided the mayor.
And then everybody was so upset about it, and the

(36:48):
mayor had such a hard word with At they decided
they would delay it, and they delayed it until the
first of October, which was yesterday, and there are no
overnight parking charges yesterday. At on the very day, on
the very day, puts out a statement and goes, oh, Yna,
I'm actually going to delay it till December. Now. Now,
I tell you what I like about this. I personally

(37:09):
don't mind the overnight parking. I like to sweat an asset,
right and that's a city asset, so get your money
out of it. I don't mind it at all. However,
what I like is that the mayor has listened to
what the people want in the city, has instructed at
to do what the people want in the city. And
you don't get enough of that from your council. So
that's a good thing. Ay, quarter Past the Mike.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
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Speaker 3 (37:34):
I'm going to get you across the info on jd
Vance and what advantage he may have in this upcoming
debate which is going to have be happening at two
o'clock this afternoon before we have a chat by the
way to Matt Terrell out of the US, who as
with us after half past seven. And also, don't forget
we've got Jenny and Mark doing politics Wednesday after eight.
Right now it's eighteen past seven. Now here's something potentially
very cool on the horizon. Turns out that our work

(37:57):
is underway to try to bring the World Athletic in
all championships here in four years time, and that will
be happening just as we expect New Zealand's interest to
pick up after the success of Hamish Kern all those
guys over at the Olympics with US now as Athletics
New Zealand CEO. Cam. That's your morning, Cam Wanning Heather.
You reckon this is going to happen.

Speaker 19 (38:16):
Oh, look, we're going to give it a go for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
How do you rate your chances? I want it to
be high, Cam. I'm asking you this for a reason
I want this thing to happen.

Speaker 19 (38:25):
Oh look, we're quietly confident.

Speaker 20 (38:27):
I mean, like anything like this, there's big numbers involved,
so we've got to do the work. We're just about
to embark on a fees of Beilieve study to understand,
you know, whether it's possible or not that we can
actually put a bit forward.

Speaker 19 (38:38):
But it's something that we have as an aspiration of
ours to bring major events like this for athletics to
our shorts. It's an event that we don't typically see
in our country, so you know, there's a massive novelty
factor there that we think people will get them behind
and support. It's a pretty cool event. It's three days,
it's the best athletes in the world competing on what's

(38:58):
called a short track whilst it's called the World Indoors
Wood Athletics and twenty three changed the rules so it
could actually be a short track, which is a two
hundred meter track and can be in an outdoor venue.
So that makes it, I guess possible for countries like
ours that don't necessarily have massive indoor facilities. Now we
could essentially put a two hundred meter track inside Eden

(39:19):
Park or a facility like that and run a pretty
cool athletics event.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Well, fantastic, So it's pretty easy for us to be
able to do. Were you were you at that meeting
between christ Bishop and SIBCO in Paris.

Speaker 19 (39:31):
Look, we're around, you know, we're obviously spending a lot
of time with Word Athletics ourselves up there and making
sure that that we were there aware of our aspiration
and ensuring that I guess New Zealand's able to build
those important relationships required to deliver events like this.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
And so are you getting a sense that this is
actually a real thing that that zib CO is seriously
considering us.

Speaker 19 (39:52):
There's a bit in process that World Athletics obviously run through,
so you know, I think it's a favorable thing. Don't
have a lot of these types of events. So World
Athletics is a truly global governing body with two hundred
and fourteen nations involved, you know, want to be able
to take their events around the globe, and Oceania as
an area doesn't typically hold a lot of these events,

(40:15):
so there's a process that we need to work through
with them. And similarly, there's a process with government through
the Major Events Fund that we need to work through
it's a contestable fund, but what we want to be
able to do is ensure that everyone's aware of the
opportunity and that, as I said, we can sort of
put our best foot forward.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, well, good luck with it.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Cam.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I'm really into it, Cam Mitchell Athletics, New zeal I'm
into it because I reckon. Can I tell you I
reckon that these kinds of things don't sound that exciting
until they're happening, like the FIFA Women's World Cup, and
then it's just such a good time. Seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2 (41:38):
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Speaker 3 (41:42):
Seven twenty four. Look, I'll be honest with you. I'm
kind of loath to keep talking about this, but I
think Chris Luxon is being treated really unfairly on the
sale of his apartment, and because he's been treated so unfairly,
it's kind of hard to avoid saying something about this.
The latest installment on this you will see this in
the morning papers today, is a series of stories now
pointing out that Chris Luxon would have paid up to
seventy thousand dollars in tax on the sale of his

(42:04):
apartment if it wasn't for his government changing the bright
line test rules so he bought the apartment in twenty twenty.
The bright line test back then was five years, and
because he has sold it within the five years, it
should have been subject to the five year brightline test,
and he should have paid a capital gains tax on
it of seventy thousand dollars, but his government cut the

(42:25):
bright line test back to two years effect of July
this year, so he didn't have to pay any tax.
The implication of that being that, either by design or
by luck, he has managed to dodge a tax that
he actually should have paid. Give me a break, I mean,
the only reason cast your mind back, the only reason
that luckson is selling that apartment because we pressured him

(42:46):
into moving into Premiere House. He didn't want to move
into Premiere House. That was obvious, and why should he.
I mean, the place is famously cold and drafty, and
given that this guy has been earning megabucks for at
least a couple of decades, he probably hasn't lived in
a house as cold as a student flat for a
couple of decades. Why would he want to start now
when he's the prime minister of the country. But we
gave him grief, didn't we for not living there and

(43:08):
for taking the accommodation allowance to live in his apartment instead.
And so finally in February this year he caved and said, fine, okay,
I'll move into Premier House. But now that he's moved
into Premier House, we're not happy about that either, because
now we can see he's making money off his apartment.
Come on, what is it that we actually want here?
He now isn't costing the taxpayer on the accommodation allowance anymore.

(43:29):
He clearly did not change the bright line test so
he could avoid tax. That was an election promise made
last year when he already, if you remember, was still
intending to keep owning his property. So what has he
done wrong? The absence of fairness in the ongoing media
reporting on this suggests to me that this is exactly
what he thinks this is, which is the politics of
envy togever do for see Allen right on the JD

(43:52):
Vancy welcome to text me on that We're going to
talk to Jenny and Mark about it after eight o'clock
when they do politics Wednesday. Slight advantage that JD Vance
may have in this debate that's kicking off at two
this afternoon is that he is talking about subjects that
people care about, right, which is his subjects are slightly
more interesting to people than the ones Tim Watts is
going to be talking about. There's a CBS you gov

(44:12):
polled out this week. Eighty six percent of respondents said
they wanted to hear from the candidates about the economy,
which is a Republican strength more so than a Democrat strength,
and three quarters said that they wanted to hear the
candidate's views on immigration, once again a Republican strength, not
a Democrat strength at all. And interesting for both of

(44:33):
the guys though, is that it appears that they will
be getting a fair hearing from the public because more
than fifty percent of respondents reckon that both of the
guys are competence. So that sounds that sounds like a
rare bit of fairness there, doesn't it. We'll talk more
with Rubio Marco, Rubio's guy next after the News.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
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Speaker 3 (45:15):
That'd be The other point regarding Luxeon's properties is that
he's done upgrading work and all the comments are based
on gross profit before upgrading expenses. There may actually be
no net profit or certainly would be significant less than
the misrepresentation by the media. Daniel, thank you for that. Hey,
really interesting little things happening in Dunedin. You know that
dogs can sniff out disease, but there are a couple

(45:35):
of dogs down there called hero In Hogan that actually
can sniff out samples of bowel and ovarian cancer with
an accuracy rate of one hundred percent. I'll get you
across that before eight o'clock. That's just quite incredible to me.
Right now, twenty two away from it, you say, can
you say? We're just hours away from the first vice
presidential debate in the US two o'clock this afternoon our time.

(45:58):
It's pretty clear who this guy thinks is going to win.

Speaker 12 (46:00):
Going up against a moron, a total moron.

Speaker 17 (46:03):
How she picked him is unbelievable, and I think it's
a big factor.

Speaker 14 (46:07):
There's something wrong with that gay. He's sick. He went
into the Michigan.

Speaker 12 (46:11):
Game the other day. He got booed out. I went
into the Alabama game. The one hundred and twenty thousand
people went crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Look, these things normally don't matter, but this time around,
because the race is so tight, and because there are
no further presidential debates planned, it actually does. Managing partner
of Firehouse Strategies and Marco Rubio's former chief of staff,
Matt Tyrell's here to share the debate. Matt.

Speaker 21 (46:30):
Hello, Hey, great to be with you.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I feel like Tim Waltz has got the edge because
he is so much more likable than JD. Vance. Am
I being unfair?

Speaker 21 (46:41):
Well, it's up to the voters decide. But what I
can tell you is that I think voters are less
concerned right now about personalities and are much more focused
on candidates records. Yeah, particular what these candidates will do
when it comes to affordability, the economy, and border security,
and that's going to be the issues that decide this race.
And those independent undecided voters who will be really deciding

(47:01):
this election among other voters, but comes out of those
swing voters, if you will, in those handful of background states.
Those are the issues they care about when the watching
this debate tonight, and that's what they'll be focused on.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, I mean, this is what according to that CBS poll,
this is what the people want to hear about. They
want to hear about about immigration, they want to hear
about the economy, if j Devons can keep it to that,
does he win.

Speaker 21 (47:21):
I think it's gould be a better night tonight for
Center jd Vance if he focuses on those issues and
not just talking about the future that a Trump Van's
ticket would look like if they were elected, but also
drawing contrast, you know, for example, drawing contrast between foreign
President Trump's record on the economy and inflation and border
security and comparing that with the Biden Harris administrations record

(47:43):
on those issues. Tonight's just not just about the future,
but for many voters, the clear question will be my
better off today than I was four years ago? And
I think it's a real challenge for the Harror's ticket
right now with respect to this debate and this election.
I think at the end of the day, what voters
are looking for those which candidate can really demonstrate the
votes that they can lead on those issues over the
next four years.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Do you think that there are people out there who,
you know, obviously a very small number lift now, but
people out there who haven't made up their minds about
Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, who will actually make the
minds based on the performance of one of these two guys.

Speaker 21 (48:17):
Well, I think there's a handful of voters out there
right now who are on the side in this race.
I think what you're looking at right now, though, is
another section of voters to really be focused on here,
the Trump vance ticket in particular, are those voters who
traditionally vote Democratic but right now may be given the
Trump advance ticket. To look here, I mean, for example,
you look at union voters. Right now, Vice President Harris
is underperforming. Among Union voters. They tend to vote and

(48:40):
pass elections with the Democrat nominee for president. That may
not be the case of time with many Union voters
out there who are really being impacted by the economy
inflation in particular. Take Hispanic voters, you know, look foreg
Persident Trump right now is around forty one percent with
Hispanic voters. That's an astonishing number for Republican nominee for president.
Take young voters, you know, forign President Trump right now

(49:01):
is point around fifty percent with young male voters under
the age of thirty. So, look, the bottom line here
is not just those independent undcided voters a look at.
It's those traditional Democratic voters. And if you're the Trump
vans ticket, can you flip them into your column going
into election day that don't really matter in places like Pennsylvania, Georgia,
and North Carolina, those battleground states that could just be
on the margins at the end of the day, giving

(49:23):
every vote you can obviously matter.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Matt, while we're talking about these two, I'm fascinated by
the relationship between Donald Trump and Jdvans. Regardless of how
this I mean, regardless of how this election turns out,
does that relationship last? Do you think?

Speaker 21 (49:37):
Well? I think you know, Look, I think there's a
reason why forearm President Trump selected Jade Vans, and the
reality is this ticket. I think at the end of
the day, it's going to be focused in on win
this election and then on the heels of that governing.
And I think for foreign President Trump, you know, if
he is elected on day one, they're going to have
many challenges, particularly relates to the economy, inflation, and border security.

(49:58):
And I think the expectation will be that he's got
an administrations working together to really get this country moving
forward on those issues. So look, I think at the
end of the day, it's not just about winning this
elections by governing. I'll leave to others to dissect, if
you will, the relationships of these individuals. But the reality is,
I think that, like any ticket, it's not just about
winning the election, but if you are elected governing in

(50:19):
effective fashion. It's not just the ticket and the administration,
but whether or not Foreign Persident Trump or whoever wins
this election, whether it's Vice Person Harris or Foreign Persident Trump,
what kind of a Congress will they have. That's why
there's a big focus in this race, not just on
the essential election, but on the Senate and the House
that's going to matter as well, either for Vice Person
Harris or Foreign Persident Trump if they're elected.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Thanks Matt, really appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
That's Matt Terrell, who's a managing partner of Firehouse Strategies,
Mico Rubio's former chief of Stuff. This is not the
food Stuff's merger that's been declined yestered up by the
Commas Commission. Sounds like it would be pushing the proverbial
uphell in court. There's some analysis that suggests the odds
are actually stacked in a legal battle in favor of
the Commas Mission, because the ComCom can only clear a
merger if it is satisfied it's not going to get

(51:03):
a It's not going to result in a substantial lessening
of competition in any market, right, so it has to
be satisfied that's not going to happen. Then they can
clear so the usual burden of proof is reversed in
this case favors the ComCom. Even if food Stuffs does
win in court, it will take years and years and
years before they're actually able to merge because the ComCom

(51:24):
would likely counter appeal, and so you'd be sinking all
this cost into something you aren't able to realize for years.
The suggestion here is that the threat of legal action
is mostly about food Stuff saving face, and the thing
is already over seventeen away from MAK.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
The My Casting Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 3 (51:44):
Hey, some good news about the property market, and we're
trying to I'm going to be honest, you're trying to
find silver linings here. But the good news about the
property market today is that we have so much predictability
in the property market right now. We have more predictability
than we have had in twenty years. The down is
the reason that we have predictability is basically because nothing's
happened with prices for at least a couple of years,

(52:06):
it's been floating. According to real estate dot Co don
in Z's New Zealand Property report for last month for September,
the national average price has basically been hovering between eight
sixty thousand and eight ninety thousand for about two years.
January twenty three, it was let's say, round about eight
hundred and eighty thousand dollars. Nearly two years later, we're
sitting at eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Not a

(52:27):
massive change. And if you go back as far as
you possibly can go, as far as records go back,
which is seventeen years back, we've never seen prices remain
this flat for this long. It's so flat it's breaking records,
So we'll take what we can out of that. Basically
means you know what you're dealing with when you go
to buy a house. It's twelve away from mate. Looks
like Wellington Mayor's Wellington's Mayor Tory Farno is in a

(52:48):
little bit of trouble next week. She has been obviously
getting the headlines lately for all of the stuff that's
been going on with, you know, the selling of the
car in order to pay the bills because she's broke
and allegedly and is she going to be able to
stitch this airport sales deal together? And that's basically what
it sounds like. She's not going to be able to
do Next year. Next yeah, sorry, next week. Next week

(53:10):
the council goes back to vote again on the sale
of the airport shares in Wellington and it is now
being reported that a majority of her counselors are going
to vote against it and stop the sale. And it
basically comes down to this one young counselor, Niko Winera,
who was originally opposed to the airport shares sale because
that's the Green he's a Greenie and that's the Green
Party's position. But then about two weeks ago he changed

(53:33):
his mind and then and then basically put the thing
back on and it was going to happen again. And
he changed his mind, he said, because it would lead
to the significant disenfranchisement of Armna Fenawa representatives. Do not
ask me because I don't, I don't know, I can't
can't explain it. But now he's changed his mind again
and again don't ask me, because now I've lost interest
in why he's changing his mind the whole time. But
he has points Simply is he's back on the side

(53:55):
of voting the thing down. But it's fascinating because behind
the scenes, apparently there's been all of this horse trading
going on in pressure and all of these left wing,
left leaning councilors have been called into a room and
had individual meetings with the mayor and the two man
A Fena were representatives on the council, and it was
suggested that this dispute over the airport shares sale may
threaten some sort of relationship with partnership that they've got

(54:16):
between Manafena and the council. Don't ask because I don't know.
I don't know why Manafenna have got a particular interest
in the airport. But anyway, this is the pressure that
was brought to bear on the left leaning counselors and
as a result, it hasn't worked for some weird reason,
God only knows why. Now the guy's flipped again. So
as it stands right now, and this thing is moving
quite fast, it would appear based on his vacillations on it,

(54:39):
this thing is moving at this stage, she's going to
lose this vote. That is really important for Torrifino because
losing the vote means she has to go back and
she has to do the council's long term plan. Again.
That is basic council business, right, If you can't do
your long term plan, what the hell are you actually
able to do as a council. So if they can't
do the long term plan, which is basic council business,

(55:00):
does it mean it triggers the government having to send
the adults and doesn't mean it is crowned monitor time.
Keep an eye out on that Wednesday, because that's potentially
D day for Torri when we have to get the
grown ups and with the long pants, get them in
to run the show. For this lot, we're clearly having
a difficult time. Ten away from Matey.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
The Duplessylvon the my Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities,
US togs heead b.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Hey, listen, the White House is just holding a briefing
on the situation with Iran and the missile attack on Israel.
Here's the spokesperson, Jack Sullivan.

Speaker 22 (55:31):
Today, Rin launched nearly two hundred ballistic missiles towards targets
in Israel. The United States military coordinated closely with the
Israeli defense forces to help defend Israel against this attack.
US naval destroyers joined Israeli air defense units in firing
interceptors to shoot down inbound missiles. We are still working

(55:53):
with the IDF and the authorities in Israel to assess
the impact of the attack, but at this time stress
At this time, we.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Do not know of any deaths in Israel.

Speaker 22 (56:04):
We do not know of any damage to aircraft or
strategic military assets in Israel. In short, based on what
we know at this point, this attack appears to have
been defeated and in effective.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Six away from as give a d Ellen right, get
a load of this cancer detection dog seem to have
made a bit of a breakthrough in Dunedin. They've been
sniffing out the lab samples of bowl and overarian cancer
and they've actually had one hundred percent success rate and
with US now is Canine Medical Detection CEO Pauline Blomfeld.

Speaker 16 (56:33):
Pauline, good morning.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Were you expecting one hundred percent or to that? Blow
your mind?

Speaker 8 (56:39):
It always blows my mind when I see the dogs
working to be fair, they are all we expected a
really high result, particularly with Canine Hogan for ovarian cancer,
because he has been working exceptionally well and when he
goes into that test environment, we never know what they're
going to give us. But sparing in mind, these dogs

(57:02):
can check sort of twenty samples and twenty seconds with
that one hundred percent accuracy. Absolutely, it blows our mind.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Can you monetize us? Is there something that you can
roll out beyond the I mean, because these could just
be two very special dogs, right.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
We've got eight very special dogs. But yes, we do
select our dogs by genetics. But I guess to get
back to your question about rolling out, it's a stage
that we work through. At the moment. Yes, these dogs
are working, they're clearly detecting the odor that's released from cancer,
but we're not replacing any current tests. Ultimately, this is

(57:41):
the holy grail for us. We are working with scientists
to actually try and identify those markers that the dogs
are picking up on, because at the moment, we don't
know what the dogs are smelling. We know that the
volatiles released from cancerous cells, but we don't know So
that's that's the key. That's the thing that we want

(58:03):
to work towards and that becomes a scalable.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Listen, I know dogs can smell a thousand million times
whatever better than us, right, but sure can we smell
cancer too?

Speaker 8 (58:15):
I believe there's probably a few people. I mean, this
is where you know, the companies that create perfumes are
always seeking those individuals that have that exceptional olfactory ability.
But yes, the dogs, I mean they can. They can
detect one to two parts per trillion. So for us

(58:38):
humans at their equivalent to one teastpin of sugar and
two Olympic sized swimming puls you know, yeah, I mean,
you know, how do.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
You thank god we don't have that ability though a Pauline?
Because that would be awful to be torture walking around
sniffing everything. Pauline Blonfeld, Canine Medical Detection CEO. How amazing
is that here that you cannot say that about the
Wellington mayor She identifies as competent yet fair fair enough,
She'll identify its competent all the day they put the
Crown monitor in and then you see how she feels
about that. Hey, we've got spot politics Wednesday. Next, Ginny

(59:08):
is with us, Mark is with us. Let's chat about
all of that stuff, including, of course Luckson's capital gains
tax Dodge news talks, edb.

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Speaker 3 (59:56):
This is an English singer songwriter called Jake Bugg who
as actually onto. I think it's something like a sixth
album or something. It's called a modern day distraction. What's
this chunlen but another drink?

Speaker 11 (01:00:09):
Now, this one's called I wrote the book.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I wrote the book. That's all this guy draws on.
He can't decide where to stop with this list of
people that he draws on. So he's got the Beatles
in the next there's he's drawn on, David Bowie, Miles Cane,
Arctic Monkey's Oasis, Gilbert O'Sullivan bit of I'm driving a

(01:00:31):
little bit of Eggy pop mixed with the Arctic Monkeys
sort of making he's very sixties inspired. Do you see
the front cover of the album. He looks like a
modern day mod once described as the coolest boy in Britain.
I can sort of understand why. So easy listen check
that on on on a Saturday. Calm everybody down, wouldn't it?

(01:00:52):
Eight past eight Politics Wednesday with us. Now I've got
Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson. Hello you too.

Speaker 24 (01:00:57):
Hey, good morning, Heather morning, good morning and congratulations here
here there, I'm being on the hot seat. That's awesome
to see there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I thought you were going to congratulate me on being pregnant, Ginny,
which feels like more of an achievement completely.

Speaker 15 (01:01:08):
To be honest, I.

Speaker 24 (01:01:09):
Didn't even know their congratulations and that you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
I'll tell you what, Ginny, you've had babies an you
I have.

Speaker 24 (01:01:15):
I've had toast.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Waking up at two thirty five days in a row
when you're pregnant is an absolute punished man. I've got
to tell you, it's awful.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:01:23):
Have you and you've got all those big pillows that
you kind of align.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I've got to have pillows on either side, yeah, because
you've got to have a pillow on the front to
stabilize you, because that's that's like a it's like you
can't leave it forward now, But then you need a
pillow with the back so you don't roll on your
back and kill your baby over you know what I mean.

Speaker 25 (01:01:38):
Hey, I've got to give a shout out to Barry
here for all the amazing support that he's given you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Either.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah, the amazing support you imagine is happening. Don't go there,
mark to be fair. To be fair, breakfasts are taken
care of, getting the other one up in the morning,
it's all fine. I get there. I get there after
half past nine, and it's the calmest situation I've ever
walked into. So I don't know what my influence on
the family is, but it's not a good one. Listen, Jenny,

(01:02:04):
on this business with Chris Luxon and his apartments sale,
Do you have a problem with the sale of the
apartment in the capital gains tax that he should or
should not have paid?

Speaker 24 (01:02:13):
No, I mean it's a law. I mean there's a
law in place, and he's abided by the law. If
he's broken the law, and then maybe I think the
bit that's hard is that people doing it tough who
can't afford groceries or struggling to pay rent or get
stuff for kids going to school. I think it's a
bit hard for people to see that and sort of
make sense in their own lives.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
But he's not.

Speaker 24 (01:02:34):
He's not made a mistake or done anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
So he's a fabulously wealthy man. I mean, you know,
this is what fabulously wealthy people do. They sell their
places and make hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:02:45):
Look, he's done everything right by the book, and I
think he can't be critical of someone if they haven't
broken the law.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
You can't.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
He was.

Speaker 25 (01:02:53):
I just the thing is like Chris Lutson's he was
a key we kid that grew up in a household,
was moment there hard, he worked hard, he got himself educated.
He's done well internationally. We should celebrate that, you know,
we should be encouraging our kids to do the same things.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Yeah, what I feel him, I feel a little bit.
I actually don't often feel sorry for politicians, but I'm
starting to feel a little bit sorry for Chris Luckson
because I feel like this guy can't copper break. We're
moan at him because he doesn't want to live in
Premierre house and he's drawing him down and allowance, and
then when he finally moves into Premier house, which is
going to be a punish in winter, then we moaned
him because he sold his apartment and made him look

(01:03:31):
money off.

Speaker 25 (01:03:32):
I can tell you about Chris Lutson.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
He loves this country.

Speaker 25 (01:03:36):
He's working hard to make us a better country and
realize our potential, and he's fully focused on that and
he's just getting on with it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Yeah, Jenny, listen, have you got any intel on us
for us? We's Dareby been flying to that she's racked
up the spill of thirty nine thousand and three months.

Speaker 24 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not in the multi party.

Speaker 8 (01:03:52):
I'm not prived to that.

Speaker 24 (01:03:53):
I can tell you what labor party happens, because if
anyone's in the top five, you've got to be ready
to answer some questions about what you you went and
what you did to the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Media and media came to you, like with Willy Right.
So Willie racked up about twenty four k or something
in three months, and he fronted up, he was like,
this is where I spent it. I went to the
Oxford debate in London. Is that your rule, you have
to answer the questions.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
No, you'd have to.

Speaker 24 (01:04:14):
If you're going to do a trip of that size,
you would have a pre approach, so you go and
talk and say what you're going to do. But you know,
there's some people who live like far North and the
trips are expensive, so they typically wrack up a bit more,
or if they have kids or things like that that
they're bringing. But if you're out of the normal, you
need to go and say, look, hey, this thing happened
and I had to do it at the last minute.

(01:04:36):
That's the reason. Yeah, but otherwise no one wants to
have that conversation with their whip. And you're very careful
about booking things in advance so you get the best
rate in making sure you keep yourself well under the cap.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I can hear you huffing, that's why are you having.

Speaker 25 (01:04:50):
I don't know, No, I was just just it's test
passed money and I just think there's got to be
a high level of transparency. I think every member of
Parliament needs to think very very carefully before they spend
even one dollar because it is tax pas money in
this an expectation that it is used wisely.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Well, this is the thing right is that the last
I saw the Maori Party and Debbie weren't answering any
questions about this. That's not good enough though, because that's
actually what the rules are. Much. Do we not need
to change the rules so there is some transparency about
what gets funneled through parliamentary services?

Speaker 25 (01:05:20):
Well, I do think. I do think there should just
be a natural high level of transparency with members of
Parliament in terms have been transparent where that money has
been spent, what they've done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
That's just the right thing to do.

Speaker 25 (01:05:31):
If the rules need to be changed, obviously that's something
that you know, whoever deals with that needs to look at.
But just on a personal basis, they should be transparent.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Yeah. Well, also where is she going? Because she only
has to go to Wanganui, doesn't she from willing to
It's not even a flight, it's a drive.

Speaker 25 (01:05:46):
Well, the only thing that I would say is that
MPs do travel around the country, particularly on recess weeks
in terms of their portfolio areas or you know, so
there will be some travel around the country for that,
but just be transparent around it, because show the meetings
that you've ended, what you've done.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
You know, it's not hard.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yeah, this is true. All right, We'll leave it. They
will come back after the break thirteen past eight with
Politics Wednesday, the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
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Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
It be right back with politics Wednesday. Make Mitchell, Ginny
Anderson just got a little update from I think it's
the Department of State over in the US that there
is there was no warning from Iran before this attack
on Israel overnight. Speaking of which, Mitch, what's up with
Damian O'Connor's tweet on you on on the Israel situation.

Speaker 25 (01:06:32):
Yeah, well, I mean he obviously he deleted that, and
it showed poor judgment. I mean, I know Damien really well,
and I'm not sure what he was thinking there, but
it showed report judgment coming out and basically endorsing, you know,
the atrosses that we all saw on October seventh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Because that's how you'd have to read it, right, That
sounded like exactly what he was saying. Jenny. This is
not the first time that a member of the Labor
Party has made a misstep like this. Do you guys
just need to not tweet about it?

Speaker 24 (01:06:58):
I think look at an intent of areas like that,
you need to really carefully think through what you're going
to put out there. And I think Damien saw that
it wasn't the best idea and that's why he's removed it.
But it actually goes that he just feels incredibly strongly
that the government isn't doing enough in this space, and
I think that's that's why he did it. But I

(01:07:19):
think he's acknowledged it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I like I realized. I realized I'm taking this potentially
a step further than it has been taken. But the
problem is, Ginny I reckon because of the carry on
from the Labor Party in the UK with all the
anti semitism and stuff. Everybody's watching you guys to see
if you hold similar views, and so far Duncan and
Damien's tweets have kind of made sent a worrying signal.

(01:07:41):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 24 (01:07:43):
Look, I think there's some really strong feelings out there
in the public, and we hear those loud and clear
because people come to us with their concerns. It would
be one of the top is shoes. I get contacted
over social media or emails and people really feel it's
intolerable to see civilians continued to suffer so disproportionately, and
I think that's where that high passion comes from.

Speaker 25 (01:08:05):
And I think that's where we and that's where we
have to be as as members of parliament, politicians responsible
in what we do. And you know, and none of
us want to see the current conflict that's going on
between Israel and Hamas and his blow and it's escalating.
It's a major concern and look of our Deputy Prime
Minister wants and Peter's doing the outstanding job on the

(01:08:26):
world stage in terms of advancing our thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Mitch, listen. You you've been in conflict zones and stuff
in your time in past lives. Are you worried about
what you're seeing here?

Speaker 25 (01:08:35):
I'm very worried about it, So I was up and Dubai. Recently,
I've been involved in trying to get aid into Gaza
because that's what I did in my old job, and
I am very concerned about it, and I think it's
bad for the Middle East. It's terrible for Israel, for
the Palestinians, and but for the region more region more broadly,
but of course you know global instability, So I am

(01:08:58):
very worried about it, and I'd like to see call
a head to prevail and leaders step forward and moves
towards getting back around. I know it's very difficult and
it's very challenging, but we've got to get it back
onto a pathway towards a two state solution and police.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yeah, absolutely, Jenny, where do we go with the Dunedin
hospital situation? Tell me what you think happens from here.

Speaker 24 (01:09:17):
It's really tough because there's such high feeling in public
there about wanting to have a resolution. In the numbers
we saw in the streets over the last few days
as representative that people want some solutions. So I think
there's a big ass for the government to not break
that promise and to continue on track to provide it

(01:09:37):
that the South is feeling really starved of love, and
that's on top of having job losses. Having this hospital
not go ahead as a real kick in the guards felt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Well the hospital.

Speaker 25 (01:09:49):
The hospital is going ahead, but again it's through awful
mismanagement of the prior government that you've had a massive
cost blow There's been a massive cost blow out, Genny.
I just about every single project that you guys haven't
delivered because you are meant to have started that in
twenty twenty and so the government absolutely exactly like the fairies.
And so this government's had to pivot. We've had to change.

(01:10:12):
We are going to be building a new de need hospital,
but we're going to have to be doing it within
a budget that actually the country can.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Afford, which I'll take that.

Speaker 26 (01:10:18):
Heah, sorry, I was just going to say here that
there's got to become a point where are with this
government and Mark start taking responsibility for their own decisions.
Now they just keep it if they just keep blaming
the previous government. People see straight through there.

Speaker 24 (01:10:32):
You know they gave two point nine billion dollars in
tax carts to landlords and this hospital rebuild would have
cost three So there's your money right there.

Speaker 25 (01:10:39):
You don't know how to manage projects, you don't know
how to deliver project. You were and we're making decisions.
We're making decisions are responsible for us as a country,
and we're doing it within our means in terms of
what we can afford as a country, and we will
deliver it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I'll tell you what much I think. I think both
of you guys have got a point, right. I know,
Labour absolutely mismanaged. But what is happening right now is
something completely differ which your government is going to wear
if you guys don't sort this out, which is the
choices that you're making right, Because you can't spend three
billion on a hospital, but you can spend two billion
on a highway in Wellington, and you can spend three
billion on getting the tax settings right for landlords, and

(01:11:14):
that those choices are your problem. How do you defend that?

Speaker 25 (01:11:17):
Well, it's easy. We're going to we're investing into the
infrastructure that we need as a country to get us
more productive, to create better lives in a high wage economy.
So yes, and we're going to deliver it the need
and hospital. We're going to deliver world class to need
in hospital. I think it's going to be one of
the most money spent on a hospital in the Southern Hemisphere. However,
it's going to be one that we as a country
can afford because unlike labor, who thinks you just go

(01:11:39):
back and keep appropriating more money and borrowing more money,
we can't afford that as.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
At So the gold standard has gone. No more gold
standard fairies, no more gold standard hospital. We just kind
of cut a cloth built to walk.

Speaker 25 (01:11:50):
Well, you can still have world class, gold standard infrastructure,
but you can have it built at We're going to spend.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
We're going to spend.

Speaker 25 (01:11:58):
We're going to spend the money on it that we
can forward as a country. We can't continue to do
what Label was doing and boring assistantly and driving it.

Speaker 24 (01:12:07):
You're going to skinlish and you're going to deliver more.
Those three things. Is that the Bermuda triangle that just
well people see through that.

Speaker 25 (01:12:14):
Well, we're definitely going to deliver more because you guys
delivered nothing, so absolutely we're going to deliver more.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Guys say, great, great to chat to the pair of
you really appreciate It's Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson Politics, Wednesday
eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Heather Dupice Ellen on them My Hosking Breakfast with the
Jaguar f Base News Talks NB.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Hey. Tim South is just announced he's standing down his
cap as the captain of the Test and Tom Lathan's
going to take over. Probably related to the fact that
we suck Suck got out for eighty eight on Saturday
and one innings. Ssh, it's got to be one of
the worst day. Heather. By the way, eight twenty six.
Why do you say, Chris Luxon's capital gain tax dodge?

(01:12:54):
There's no capital gains tax, so there's no dodge. Heither,
way are you in your station going on about paying
a capital gains tax? It does not exist. I feel
as if you've missed a vital point here. I am
going on about the fact that other people are going
on about it, and now you're going on about the
fact that I'm going on about the fact that other
people are going on about it. You know what I mean, Like,
I'm not I don't want him to pay the capital
gains tax because I don't want any of us to
pay the capital gains taxes. I was being sarcastic.

Speaker 11 (01:13:18):
You're doing that air quotes air quote, but you've got
on radio. You have to do them really hard. Yeah, okay,
otherwise people would sometimes do miss thing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
These are some key learnings in the mornings for me. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:13:31):
Can we have more emphasis on your air quotes?

Speaker 15 (01:13:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
I will, And you give me a more sarcasm on
the text. I'm going to hit learnings at you repetitively,
so you really hate the situation. Heither, if you stop
eating potato when pregnant, you won't make water, which is
why you expand your waist. Now, Jan, I have spent
some time that text came in about fourteen minutes ago,
spent some time trying to understand what that is in English.
And I think what it is is that the reason

(01:13:57):
I feel can't leave it in bed forwards is because
my waist has expanded too much because I'm not eating
enough potato, and therefore I'm not wheeing enough. Let me
assure you wieing when your pregnant is not a problem
that happens. It's fine, and there's a lot of potato
going and but Jan, thank you very much, really appreciate it. Right,
news is coming up news talks, it'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Can the duplicy Ellen on the mic asking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local experts across residential, commercial,
and rural news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Head be hither are old mate? Mark Mitchell? Always make
sure he never mentions the last government had to battle
the costly COVID pandemic and its aftermath, and prior to COVID,
labor had the books in very good shape. It COVID
gave them the old smoke screen though, didn't it. They
were like, oh, I've got to behave ourselves, got to
behave ourselves. Got but whoa, there's a distraction. Go for girl. Anyway.
Speaking with man man who was behind that all was
Grant Robinson, got a little update for him on him

(01:15:05):
rather for you shortly, I just really quickly. News is
emerging that the case against P Diddy Sean Coombs is growing.
Apparently more than one hundred alleged victims are going to
sue him and others. I'm just guessing that's his posse.
I don't know who the others are, because you know,
rappers generally have a posse hanging around with him, are
going to sue them for rape, sexual assault, sexual exploitation.

(01:15:26):
He's already been indicted. He was indicted just a few
weeks ago on three criminal accounts of a sexual abuse
of women and so on. So it's not looking good
for him at the moment. Twenty two away from nine
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business OSNY correspondents Steve Prices of US
with US Morning.

Speaker 15 (01:15:43):
Steve, Good morning to you. Head up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, now, these pro Palestinian rallies are really getting you
guys worked up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
And not say they sure are.

Speaker 15 (01:15:51):
There's a lot happened since last weekend since I took
to you on Monday, but I want to go to
development overnight. There's a pro Palestinian rally planned for Sydney
on Monday October seven, which of course is the twelve
month anniversary of the terrorist attack by Hamas on Israel.
Now police have now applied hither that rally not be

(01:16:13):
allowed to go ahead. It's planned for the steps of
the Town Hall in Sydney, which is where all these
rallies take place. The police are going to fight a
request from the Palestinian.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Action Group to hold that gathering.

Speaker 15 (01:16:25):
That's a year on, as I said, from when twelve
hundred people were killed in that attack. The court order
will also seek to prohibit a separate pro Palestini in March,
which is due in Sydney on Sunday this week. On
October six, the police said, look, we've negotiated with the protesters.
They did apply with a form one for each of
those gatherings, but we were quote not satisfied the protests

(01:16:48):
can proceed safely. The bit of history on this, of course,
is that these rallies have now fundamentally changed following the
Israeli attack that killed the leader of his Bala Israla.
Now on Sunday we saw protesters carrying flags of his
Bala through the streets of Sydney and Melbourne. To date,

(01:17:10):
no one has been prosecuted with our hate laws because
they were carrying those flags. But the Federal Police yesterday
announced that they're looking at six cases out of the
Melbourne march. So what I think we're seeing here is
political pressure on state and federal police forces Heather to say, look,
enough's enough here. Australians are not going to put up

(01:17:33):
with people marching around carrying flags and frame photographs of
a dead terrorist. So you're not going to have your march.
They just want to prevent Monday, particularly October seventh, turning
into a very nasty gathering in both the major capitals
in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Steeve, I want to get to Quantisan just to take
But on this Dutton, the business between Dutton and the
ABC reporter, what do you make of this?

Speaker 15 (01:17:56):
Yeah, I watched that live yesterday. Peter Dunton was doing
a more press conference. He was in Queensland and a
reporter from the ABC bobbed up with a question about
She tried to frame a question about, well, how come
Hezbalah is nominated as a terrorist organized in this country
and you can't carry their flag? Excuse me, but the

(01:18:20):
Israeli flag is not banned. Well, Dunton turned on the
reporter immediately and said where are you from? What organization?
And she said, oh, well, I'm from the ABC. Then
he then proceeded to lecture her about the fact that
Israel was a democracy and that hez Balah and Hamas
are terrorist organizations. The ABC has been forced to clarify

(01:18:42):
this overnight. They put out a sort of feeble response suggesting, oh, well,
you know that's not our position as an organization. The
problem for the reporter though it looked like she was
asking the question in you would have done many of
these conferences, she was asking the question off her phone,
and so Peter doesn't said, I presume you're getting that

(01:19:02):
question from Canberra now. She refused to respond them and
it was a pretty stupid way to pose the question,
quite frankly, and the agency is already under a lot
of pressure about how it is covering the Middle East conflict.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Yeah, interesting, same problems that the BBC's got over in
the UKA about bias. Okay, now listen the situation with
Qatar wanted to buy into Vergin Quantus seems like they're
going to object to this here.

Speaker 15 (01:19:26):
Yeah, they'll go to the A Triple C and so
that they don't understeal to happen. How can they make
that argument, Well, Qatar last year applied to dump our
whole bunch of more flights into the major capitals in Perth, Sydney,
Melbourne and Brisbane and the Federal government said no, you
can't do that. We don't want more of your flights
into this country. That was an odd decision by the

(01:19:48):
Federal Minister Katherine King, because most Australians are most Keywis
by the way, say oh well, competition's better. I mean,
the more flights, the chances of your seat being a
little cheaper is probably a good thing. And it came
at a time when international flights in and out of
Australia are particularly expensive. So Katar has gone to Virgin
and said to Virgins, look, let's hook up. We'll buy

(01:20:10):
twenty five percent of your company and then we can
fly these flights in under a virgin flight number and
we can get around the government saying we couldn't do it. Well,
Kurtus obviously is arked up about this and said, hang
on a minute, these are not really virgin flights. I
mean the Qatar flight. Qatar planes flown by Katari pilots
with Katari CRUs You can't pull that a virgin flight. Interestingly, though,

(01:20:34):
I mean I came back from Greece on Sunday on
an Emirates flight which had an Emirates crew. I got
no idea where the flight crew were from. But that
was a Quantus co chair flight, So I'm not sure
how the objection works.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Busted, Steve, thank you very much, really appreciate it. Steve
price Osie corresponded, right, here's a little bit of the
exchange between Peter Dutton and the ABC reporter.

Speaker 27 (01:20:58):
Well, I had ended up until this point at least
that the ABC supported the government's laws, and the government
has passed laws supported on a bipartisan basis, but not
by the ABC.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
It seems.

Speaker 27 (01:21:10):
In relation to the prescribing or the listing of a
terrorist organization HEZBLA under Australian law is a listed terrorist organization. Now,
if the ABC doesn't support that, they should be very
clear about it, because I think that's quite a departure.
But you asked me why why our country has listed
hes blah. They're a terrorist organization that they organized terrorist attacks.

(01:21:31):
And if that is not clear to the ABC, then
I think the ABC is in greater trouble.

Speaker 12 (01:21:35):
And even I first imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Quite remarkable that it has to be explained to someone
sixteen away from nine the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
News Talks that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Be Hey, this is pretty cool if you're one of
those people who like to look up at the skies
and see cool things going on there. We've got a
comment coming here. And this comet hasn't been visible from
Earth since the Neanderthals were if I remember well, if I
remember correctly, makes it sound like I was around at
the time, and many people would say I am in Neanderthals,
So that's probably not that unexpected.

Speaker 11 (01:22:07):
You've never had the gene testing to find out how
much in the nithole you actually are?

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Have you know? Because you can?

Speaker 11 (01:22:13):
Do you want to know? I don't want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Do you know that it is people of European extraction
that are related to the Neanderthals. So be careful what
you wish for, Glenn. It may explain a lot anyway,
So comet. It hasn't been here since I do.

Speaker 11 (01:22:29):
Have very long arms anyway, Sorry, carry on.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
My tippoona the ones I fucking papa. Back to the Neanderthals,
since they were around about eighty thousand years ago, Comet
see slash twenty twenty three A three. They always named
them really jazzy names. It hasn't been around since then.
But it's going to be closest to Earth in about
ten days. Okay. The best time to see it is
actually when it's halfway between us and the sun, not
when it's the closest to us, but it's a halfway between,

(01:22:55):
which is next Wednesday, and you can go a couple
of days before a couple of days after, so basically
Monday to Friday. Go poke. Just have a look up
at the sky, Glenn. Don't look at the sky when
the sun is in the sky. Don't look at the sun. Okay,
nighttime might be visible to the naked eye, very rare.

Speaker 11 (01:23:12):
Say that this is one of those once in a lifetime. Yeah,
you never see it again. Events that seem to happen
every sin.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Once in a species, right, but do we even know
if sapiens has seen it before? We don't know. We
don't know. So it's once in a species opportunity. It's
I'm not gonna lie to you. You're gonna you're gonna
go out there next week. You're gonna look, you're gonna go.
Is that because that's often what happens. It's just the
thing in the sky. You go, well, well then, and
then your grandchildren in like twenty years and not going

(01:23:37):
to want to hear about the time that you saw
ce Bar twenty three whatever, going past. Its boring anyway. Listen,
Grant robertson a cat. So what's going on at university
Otago University is that Otago University has just signaled that
it plans to expand into Queenstown because it sees Queenstown
is something of a technology hub and it wants to
get involved in the technology abs. So it's gone and

(01:23:58):
to go, and it's got to go into QT. Who
announced it, Grant? Because what's Grant doing? He's running the
university now, so he's standing there without a tie. He's
got his open collar shure. It's all relaxed. He's like, Yeah,
I'm down with my people in Duneda and I've got
this plan. I'm going to announce it. Here's the thing
to understand about what they've just announced. It's not going
to be cheap, is it. You expand into the most

(01:24:18):
expensive town in the country, you're gonna have to fork out.
And not only are they going to fork out for
the buildings and like set up costs of a new
campus blah blah blah, but they also indicated they are
wanting to build their own accommodation, presumably for their their
staff and their students and god knows what else was there,
you know, because they care and they don't want to
put exisit pressure on the existing shortage of houses. So

(01:24:39):
you know they're gonna leave a lot of money. What
money are they gonna use? Otago posted a record deficit
last year. It's not making any money. They need to
cut their operating budget by about sixty million dollars plus
last I saw, they've got massive debt problem of about
two hundred million dollars. And as I say, Queens Down
is the most expensive town in the country. It appears
that Grant is learned nothing from what happened when he

(01:25:03):
was the finance minister running the economy. Back then, he
was like, no money, no problem, I'm gonna do it anyway.
He's running a Tiger university. No money, no problem, I'm
gonna do it anyway. So you know, a leopard doesn't
change its spots, does it? Nine away from nine?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Ever?

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Dullen on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Dog ZB It's okay here because Grant stole the money
tree heither. Maybe Grant took the money tree all the
way down to Dunedin. That's obviously what's going on. Hew h.
By the way, on the Neanderthals, neander Thal, theander Thal
Donna anyway, not haven't had a chance to check it
with them. All people apart from Africans, apparently have Neanderthal genes,

(01:25:42):
and that if you've been paying attention in NCAA Level
three biology you would know that, which I clearly wasn't
doing because I didn't. I actually think I think I
took it to level two. And anyway, I'm old enough
to have never done NCAA.

Speaker 11 (01:25:54):
Thank God, everybody was related to everybody are we and
what need is a great big melting pot?

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Yeah, I think yep. Well, if it's between that song
and biology, I think I go with that song. You
must be right here. The ABC News is at least
not as bad as our media. Asking Lux and if
he's got sky TV, the mind boggles and it was like,
do you know that question was hilarious? Wasn't It was?
Are you enjoying the sky TV? It was kind of
one of those questions like none of us have sky
TV and are you enjoying? It's sort of like, are

(01:26:25):
you enjoying that you finally got the sky TV? I
feel like Chris Luckson's probably had sky TV most of
his life, just judging by the kind of money that
he was earning beforehand. But I don't know, maybe the
reporter doesn't have sky TV. Who knows reporter does work
for an alternative channel, So it's entirely possible that that
was driving that anyway, It's five away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
UK TV viewers a met that the moment are obsessed
with Philip Schofield's new show. Now You'll remember him because
he's the disgraced former morning host right who lost his
career after he was married, was revealed he had had
an affair with the young man. Everyone thought that was
the end of Philip, but he's actually popped back up
to do a solo show where he's been sent over
to a remote island in the Indian Ocean and it's
just him and his thoughts and the viewers of Glued.

Speaker 23 (01:27:14):
I've been cast away on a desert island, completely on
my own. All I have is camera gear, and I
can say whatever I want about whatever I want. It's
my chance to tell my side of my story. I
know what I did was unwise, but is it enough
to absolutely destroy something? People can be so fade with

(01:27:38):
view when it's all going well and suddenly utter betraying.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
It's like he didn't know he was working in the
TV industry. Surprisingly liked voice. He's actually he's he's he
could sound like a like a quite like a woman
who's consumed too much whiskey and cigarettes. He's kind of
got that kind of it's slightly androgynous voice. Anyway. This
has of course got the other Breakfast talking, including Scofield's
former co host now one of his harshest critics, aiming home,

(01:28:04):
he said he was thrown under the bus by his colleagues,
and even his daughter has come out and saying hopefully
I'm under the bus.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
I'm very proud to have done it and protected children
people who are under edge, and people seem to be
forgetting this, and they're making it like to be one situation,
one kiss, one relationship. But I think he is where
he deserves to be.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
You can guarantee obviously that this is going to be
all the talk for the entertainment guys for the next
couple of weeks. By the way, apparently it's pronounced tall
in Neander tal at the end silent h. And I
don't know if I'm being.

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
Drapn it's going to be taal at least?

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Surely are are we being trolled so that we turn
into that guy who says it wrong on air forever
from here on?

Speaker 11 (01:28:49):
And I mean, of course they didn't pronounce it at all,
because did they have actual could they talk spoken?

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
I think we'll decide for them. Actually, thank you for that, Glenn.
I think we've solved that one. Enjoy the rest of
your day, be back with you tomorrow.

Speaker 21 (01:29:00):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Of course, is back on Monday. Used talks it bok

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
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