Full Show Podcast: 23 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The newsmakers and the personalities. The big names talk to
Mike my Costing, breakfast with our Veda, retirement, communities, life
your Way, news talks, head.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be all, You're welcome, good news around the economy, retails
on the up and up, and our pit Troup sectors
coming back in a big way apparently the start. Contrast
in Wellington, though, that's getting a crime monitor. The Calm
Games has got a whole part of sports cuts, so
that looks doer. David Seymour talks to yummy Lunches, Mark Mitchell,
Kira macinnulty do politics Wednesday are at Chard Arnold Steve Price.
They make outside contributions to our program as well, asking

(00:33):
here we go for a Wednesday seven past six. Darling Tanner,
of course is gone. There are a myriad of things
you can say about this whole sorry saga. Firstly, she
has disgraced and embarrassed herself. She is not a good
example of the sort of person we would like to
think heads to Parliament. Secondly, the Greens have disgraced and
embarrassed themselves. They selected a person who clearly was not
as she was described on the tin, so their vetting
process is seriously flawed. They dilly dallied and mucked around

(00:57):
with an issue that was clear cut. They involved courts
and time wasting, not to mention taxpayers money supporting a
person who sat in Parliament drawing a salary asking questions
it clearly should not have been there. Thirdly, the walker
jumping law is obviously a very good bit of work
and was designed for exactly the sort of shambles from
Alaman Kopu all those years ago to this very day.
The Parliament, through a flawed system will sadly produce people

(01:18):
who are not up to it and deserve to be
dealt with. I suppose you can argue that Tarana is
representative of a system that reflects us, which brings us
to the complicated area, or whether the people in Parliament
should be a version of us or a version of
what we would like to think we are. Society is
full of Darline's, you just don't hear about them every day.
They don't necessarily end up in the public light. For

(01:38):
all the frail, fragmented, dopey, hopeless people that end up
as MPs, they are merely outworkings of the dopey and
hopeless that make up any community or town, or business
or grouping. We are run by a microcosm of us. Foolishly,
we like to think that if you wrap it up
in a suit, or give it respectability, or pay it
a bit of money, or have some trappings, the whole

(01:59):
process becomes hellated and the need of worlds can't get
past the security. Our councils are frequented by the robust
and experienced. We think Parliament is full of the bright
and the insightful. No such luck. Darlene Taner has been
a waste of time and an expensive mistake, but sadly
she is far from unique, and so too are a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
We know.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
But the US, the Latino vote is the focus today.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
The Latino community is feder of being exploited, used and
abused on the border, trafficking with the economy.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
You know, we were hard working people.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Suggestion being, of course, that they're moving towards Trump. There's
also a feeling that the Dems might be bleeding votes
because the war in the Middle East and their support
for israel I could.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Assure you that it's not guessed about Michigan.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
This is a nationwide phenomena I am worried.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I am very worried.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
I think the damage is great.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
He's a dem. Then you get to the spin about
whose campaigning hard.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
While Kanaalah Hair takes an entire day off the campaign trail,
apparently she needs the full day to prepare for one
pre taped interview. President Trump is holding a round table
this morning with Latino business owners in Miami.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Got new polling for you shortly on that. Anyway, as
regards the world, the israelis a bombed hospital where they
claim his bill I have well, basically a bank full
of millions of dollars in a bunker below. At the
meantime up top, the doctor's not thrill.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
This is a hospital where people get cheated.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
And I think they should be more accurate with the
intelligence they get before spreading any information that we don't
need to lose lives that are unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
To lose a couple of things in Britain. One, we've
got two trains that run into each other in wilds.
We're now in a process of investigating what's happened. This
is a multi agency investigation.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
That investigation is ongoing.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
And two, they continue to let prisoners out early because
they well, they don't have enough places or indeed prisons, to.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
Build enough prisons to meet this demand.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
We would have to build the equivalent of HMP Birmingham
in my own constituency of the lady would four and
a half times over every single here, and they're not
doing that. There's a wonderful photo and some of the
press this morning as all the prisoners get led out
being met by Bentley's Lamborghinis and g wagons. Finally, German
police have worked out why pizzeria and Dusseldorf was doing
business like no other pizzeria. You know where this is going.

(04:18):
The sting found that every pizza came with a side
order of cocaine. So one hundred and fifty officers later,
an entire drug ring has been busted and a twenty
two year old head of the operation was one of
many arrested. And another's news in the world. More good
news this morning are the global fight I speak of
the IMF, the International Monetary Fund. The global fight against

(04:39):
inflation has been quote unquote almost one peaked at nine
point four percent the third quarter of twenty twenty two.
They reckon by the end of this year, we're going
to have it down two three and a half, the
local eleven Pass six.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
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Speaker 2 (05:00):
Just sorting out. Sorry, I'm just the reference to Andrew
Bailey before six o'clock with Ryan. We've got to the
bottom of it and I'll explain it more shortly by
the way, quickly from the IMF. Also, they've been busy.
They've upped the UK growth, which I think the UK
will be pretty pleased to see. I mean, anyone who's
growing these days as good news. They've updated that to

(05:21):
one point five percent, so they'll take that all day long.
Fourteen past six, Money Bag eleven, Punts, Management, Breach, wid
Morning to You, Morning to Mike right SAP talk me
through a software tech Hare's got a Irons ramifications as well.

Speaker 9 (05:34):
All that euro AT's largest software company came in for
really good results. Cloud has a surge driven by you
guessed at AI demand tyal revenues and third caught up
nine percent eight point five billion euros. A half of
that was Cloud revenues. They are up twenty five percent
cause they can get seventeen billion euros of sales over
the full year. Cloud sales are running so hot they
can't keep up. They're an auto backlog of fifteen point

(05:57):
four billion euros. It's twenty five five percent on a
year ago. And they're making lots of investment in business AI.
They've got this co pilot dual. They reckon all support
eighty percent of most business tasks by year end, including
finance applications. So it's pretty cool. So the copilot, it
sort of works of other co pilots acting like a
bit of a conductor and an orchestra according to their

(06:19):
analogy directing other copilots, and humans are the composers. So
it's all great news though for SAP's bottom line. Operating
profit up twenty nine per two point two billion euros,
free cash players up forty four percent one point three
billion euros. They've got plenty of cash, halfway through a
five billion euro share buyback program. And yeah, they see
free cash shows of three and a half to four

(06:39):
billion euros over the four years. So good AI story.
Investors liked it. My stock up two percent record highs
and upper mere fifty percent year to day.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Good stuff. And then we get to GM. They sold
a lot of cars. That was good news.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
They certainly did. Obviously the bell weather of the automobile industry,
so this year is almost ten percent high. Qualley revenues
up ten percent as well, forty eight point eight billion
need income that was up to three billion as well,
so they see, yeah, strong pricing, actually making losses in
China's and trying to address that and turn that around.
The labor costs have been going up after industry erection.
But yeah, your keys Posis did pretty well. The average

(07:12):
price of a vehicle remains over forty nine thousand bucks sold,
more cars and normal and trucks so as well, and
overking good times can continue to twenty twenty five s.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
That's good news.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
I lifted four year earnings forecasts fourteen to fifteen billion dollars.
Cash is flying and also doing lots of buybacks. Another
company on the up and raising it's anual profit forecast,
the Dirty Company to some Philip Morris, she is up
over eight percent. The Melbourne maker delivered record earnings, record
revenues nine point nine billion. So demand for alternative products
is rising and spinning billions on substitutes for cigarettes. So

(07:44):
you think he to tobacco and nicotine patches. That's going
pretty well these years hit record highs and lot gen
up around thirty five percent year to day. And another
company for a strong result is three M. A lot
of people think of it as post it maker, but
it does a lot more than that, so it's in
a variety of sectors off supplies, but also health care
can shime the goods. So there's a bit of an
economic bell with her as well. So one hundred and
twenty old company reported the income of one point four billion,

(08:06):
that's compared to a two billion loss last year. And
the Ocken the consumer business is going pretty well and
will continue to do so.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
She is.

Speaker 9 (08:13):
They bopped around a bit fairly flat on the day,
but that forty five percent year today and the only
sort of major miss overnight was Verizon. She is down
slightly on a revenue miss, but sort of sums up
the overwearning season today might.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Run exactly good old New Zealand Inc.

Speaker 9 (08:27):
Oh that's right, New Zealand. So you we've got some
good news here as well. So our trade bounced in September,
shrunk from two point four billion a year ago to
two point one billion. We're exporting more stuff, we're importing
a bit less exports up five point two percent. It's
the highest export number ever recorded. Kiwi Thruit was shipping
that out and drove up one hundred and seventeen percent.
Apples as well, we're going strongly out twenty three percent.

(08:50):
And milk, powdered butter and cheese they're up fifteen percent
as well. Stronger price and will be helping. Log exports
are up. So yeah, real good news story. Look at geographically,
EU U by fifty percent to one hundred and eighty
three million exports to Japan and China we're down by
eight percent. Of China was still our largest export destination.
Let's not forget that it's actually almost double the use

(09:12):
in China and the family running sheep station the Deep South,
I can vouch it. Demand from China's been pretty tepid,
but hope for those stimulus measures will sort of pick
things up. Looking at the import side, that fell by
point nine percent, so soft economy. People pulling back on
stuff including machinery, patrolling products that was down lower pricing.
Their inputs in China were down ten percent, but US

(09:32):
jumped fifty one percent. That thanks to news on getting
a new Boeing seven seven seven and Cowley story was
good as well, Mike. It's a deficitive two point eight
billion for the quarter nine point one billion annually. It's
down from fifteen point four billion.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
A year ago.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
So looks say we reached a peak in exports and
imports will headback judice our cuts. Not so sure about that.
You know that we'll probably get a weaker currency. So
good news for exports, maybe not so good news for
the cost of things we import.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But see, I like all of this one are the numbers.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
Hey, the downs fitling flat down at the moment forty
two nine to twenty s and P five hundred down
point three percent, five eight three six. There's that down
point two percent, foot one hundred down point one percent.
Weakness in age apart from China actually cs I three
hundred uo point six percent, nickelo down one point four percent,
A six two hundred down one point seven percent. We
held relatively better INSIDEX fifty down point eight five percent

(10:21):
twelve eight one three and hey, another record for gold
up twenty four bucks two seven four to three and
ounce oil up two bucks seventy two spot fifty four.
And the currencies were up against the US sixty point
five downsidely against I was ninety point five and we're
up against the British pound forty six point six.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Good stuff mat go well, so you tomorrow, Greg Smith,
Devon Funds Management Skill Day got off in India. Biggest
IPO ever three point three billion. The company was valued
at and it was over subscribed apparently by two times.
Norway if you want to know what a sovereign wealth
fund looks like, Norway's third quarter profit was just the
one hundred and thirty billion dollars return on the quarter

(10:59):
was four point four percent. That is wealth six twenty.
Here at Newstalk, SAIDB.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
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Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, just hopefully to put the Andrew Bailey thing to
bed once and for all, because it's a distraction we
don't need in this country. Got some serious stuff going
on without people like him doing stuff. Whether I mean,
you know, it's inexcusable what he did, but they've tried
to make more of it than it probably needed. Yesterday
in the House it got settled because they asked labor
clearly had something about a beer garden and a winery

(11:33):
prior to the incident. He answered and said he had
nothing to drink before the incident, and they were taken aback.
Labor clearly thought they were onto something there. So in
saying that to the house, you don't lie to the house,
because that's a sackable offense. He would have been gone.
He's no idiot. He came back last night to correct
the answer, but he corrected it out of a wealth

(11:56):
of caution, because he now claims to have had a
small quote unquote wine tasting after the incident. So his
original answer, I had nothing to drink prior the inference
from the person who's aggrieved being he could have been drunk,
he had nothing to drink. That answer stands. He had
a small wine tasting after the incident, so that was

(12:18):
out of an abundance of caution. So hopefully, once and
for all, we're done with it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
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Speaker 2 (13:31):
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Speaker 10 (13:47):
Was it this time?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I can't remember? Was it a week ago? Two weeks ago?
Just time flies on this program. But anyway, we talked
about a bloke at the Conquer's King Conquer, Dave Jenkins.
He was at the World Conquer Championships and they accused
him of being a cheat because he had a steel
chestnut conquer in his pocket, and people went weigh on,
you don't turn up to the World Championships with a
steel conquer in your pocket without using his steel conquer,

(14:09):
So is he a cheat? He's eighty two, by the way,
and he won the men's tournament. So did he use
the steel chestnut? Now we left it. We left it
hanging because of course the accusation was there, but it
was confirmed overnight that he's clean. They studied film photo evidence,
they took testimony from judges and umpires. It would have
been quote unquote near impossible for him to have swapped

(14:33):
the conquers unnoticed. So although he had to steal conquer
in his pocket, so to steal conquer in your pocket
or are you just pleased to see me? Although he
had to steal conquer in his pocket, he didn't pull
it out and use it. So he's clean as a
whisp pipfruit. If you think the exports are looking good
and they are. We've got the retail numbers later on
of the program, so that's looking optimistic. The pipfruit is booming,

(14:57):
so what's going on, who's buying it and what are
the p prospects. Have a look at this after the news,
which is next here at News Talks.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
You're pulling out of the stags this morning. It is
so tight it's unbelievable. Richard Arnold of the details on
that for you short the meantime at twenty three minutes
away from seven from our light at the end of
the tunnel file new numbers from our pip fruit industry
exports are growing and growing at a greater rate than
our overall exports, and the sector is now worth one
point nine billion dollars to the economy. Apple and Pears
tierperson Leslie Wilson's with us, Leslie morning.

Speaker 14 (15:35):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Hey, I'm very well indeed, so it puts you at
the same sort of value as wine and wine gets
the headlines. Is there a great story in pitfruit to
be told that you need to be telling louder and
more widely.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Oh.

Speaker 14 (15:45):
Absolutely, So our GDP is just under a billion, but
it's the flow on effect through the rest of the
community that gets us up to neither two.

Speaker 15 (15:59):
Billion dollars.

Speaker 14 (16:02):
In the regional I mean, the regional impacts are huge.
So we are the third highest contributed GDP in Hawks Bay,
the second in Tasman and Gisbond is our third largest
growing region. So yeah, we'd like to get the news out.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
There when we look at well, I'm looking at the
numbers this morning, three hundred and forty seven million. This
is direct export numbers back a decade ago. Three forty
seven gone to eight ninety two. What have we done?
Have We just sold more stuff to more people.

Speaker 14 (16:31):
So we've got approximately the same land area, but it's
innovation and so we've got new varieties. We're do doving
higher production on the same land area.

Speaker 16 (16:42):
So we used to do.

Speaker 14 (16:46):
Sort of four.

Speaker 13 (16:49):
Two three four.

Speaker 14 (16:52):
Cartains per hectare a thousand captains per hectare, but now
we're doing so much more and our hecta is tons
of per hectare are going going through the route.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Good And who do we sell to and do we
sell more of it or are we opening new markets?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
But at both.

Speaker 14 (17:07):
So we sell to over seventy countries around the world,
and we've had sent a huge increase in the Asian market.
So we'll see a lot of our newer varieties of
sweet red and they are more firmly suited to the
Asian markets.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And those Asians will pay big bucks. Right, that's the
other side of the equation. Not only are we doing
more on the land per hect there, but I mean
the price per unit at the top end is going up,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, it is it is.

Speaker 14 (17:35):
And having said that, so are our costs. Our costs
are increasing as well. So while our GDP is increasing,
our costs are going up to So while the benefit
to New Zealand is fantastic and these numbers certainly show

(17:55):
that the industry is good for New Zealand, the autid
gate returns are so flesh, so we're working on that
as well.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Good do you see the benefits, the material benefits of
these free trade deals they talk about we signed on
the other day with the UAE, We've got the one
with the UK the EU. Does that work for people
like you?

Speaker 14 (18:13):
Absolutely? It's little bits and pieces here and there, and
we certainly work with our government officials to try and
get the trade barriers down in terms of tariffs and
non tariff trade barriers. So our current focus really is

(18:34):
greater market access to Japan and reduction in tariffs in India.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I was I was going to ask that if they
did India tomorrow and it was a good deal, what
would happen with that boom?

Speaker 17 (18:48):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (18:49):
Yes, so India currently is it an emerging or a
huge market, an emerging market for New Zealand and they
pay very well because of the teriff. Yeah, So we're
looking forward to working with Indian government and our government
to try and get a production in.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Those those tariffs and get some free trade. And they're
nice to talk to you, Leslie good and so it
Leslie Wilson, New Zealand Apple and Pair chairperson. By the way,
it's nineteen minutes away from seven also numbers this morning
out New Zealand video game feels like something's got just
it's clicked in the last few weeks, hasn't it.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
There.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I mean, we're far from out of the woods, and
there's a lot of trouble still ahead and all of that,
but it just feels like something's starting to come right.
Video game industry numbers out this morning that's growing twenty
six percent. If you want to go back to twenty eighteen,
we're doing one hundred and forty three million dollars worth
of business. Then it went to two hundred and three,
then it went to two hundred and seventy one, then
it went to four hundred and seven, then it went
to four hundred and thirty four million, and this year

(19:47):
it's going to over half a billion dollars. It's cracked
the half billion dollar mark for the first time ever.
So they're going nicely as well. Richard shortly nineteen to.

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Speaker 2 (21:17):
Griefing, how are you and well, good morning Mike. How
tired is today? How about those poles?

Speaker 13 (21:22):
Well?

Speaker 18 (21:23):
Yeah, with the poles so very close, the Harris campaign
is concerned there might be a crack in what's called
the Blue Wall Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, those three states.
If Kamala Harris loses even one of these, she would
not win the two hundred and seventy electoral votes needed
to take the White House without getting another one or
two of the battleground state. So the call is out
for every vote, even long term Republicans who might be

(21:46):
closet Kamela supporters. Harris has done a sweep of these
blue Walls states with none ofther than Liz Cheney in
the last day or so. Cheney, of course, formerly in
the Republican leadership.

Speaker 19 (21:56):
She now says, if you're at all concerned, you can
vote your conscience and not ever have to say a
word to anybody.

Speaker 18 (22:04):
Yeah, I tell you, Ifaly or your Davis, this is
how he's going, says Gamala Harris.

Speaker 19 (22:09):
Of this, there are moments in the history of our
country which challenge us, each of us, to really decide
do we stand for those things that we talk about
including a particular country over party.

Speaker 18 (22:24):
And while Harris is pressing for Republican voters, Trump is
worried there might be cracks in his campaign wall as well.
So he's been in North Carolina cooling on evangelical Christians
about him Trump being such a devout individual.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
We tell Christians to get out and vote.

Speaker 11 (22:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (22:40):
His message to the faithful, in part, was this, we
will end the louting, ransacking, raping, and pillaging of North
Carolina and frankly every other state in the what the
way back in the eighth century, folks pillaging. Trump also
is repeating lies that the federal government is ignoring victims
of Hurricane Helene, which saw devastation in parts of North Carolina.

(23:06):
Hasn't gone for the dem since two thousand and eight,
when Obama big McCain. Trump's call to Christians comes one day,
of course, after his ellude comments about the tailor of
golfer Arnold Palmer, whose daughter now is lashing Trump for
those comments. Here's what she is saying, Well, it seems
just respectful and inappropriate to me.

Speaker 13 (23:26):
The people in western Pennsylvania deserve.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Substance, not.

Speaker 13 (23:31):
Stories that intimate a closer relationship can actually existed.

Speaker 18 (23:35):
So late Arnold Palmer, it seems not a Trump st right.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Middle East? Where are we at Blincoln?

Speaker 18 (23:40):
Still on the road, Yeah, still blinkol give piece of
chances his message. This is his eleventh visit to the region.
He met with the Israel's PM at this morning, criticizing
him for curtailing aid to Gaza. In recent weeks, there
has been a fifty percent count in aid supplies to Gaza.
US laws require withdrawal of military assistance to countries that
block the flow of American humanitarian age. So that's the stick.

(24:03):
Whether there's anything behind it is the other question. Donald Trump, meantime,
in an interview with the Saudi news agency Al Arabia,
says he thinks the hostages at Washington and many in
Israel and elsewhere are seeking to rescue. Those hostages taken
by Hamas during their initial raid are dead.

Speaker 11 (24:21):
But many of them have been killed, and I'm sure
many of them are dead.

Speaker 16 (24:24):
I think even early on, I think a lot of
those hostages were dead.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I think they were dead.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
Type.

Speaker 18 (24:30):
What are the families, including American families think of that?

Speaker 8 (24:33):
All right?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Mate? See if I appreciate it very much, If you
can be bothered looking it up. John kingdal a very
nice peace. He went to junking of CNN. He went
to Detroit and interviewed a whole lot of auto workers
about where they're at, why they're at, Very articulate people.
It was a good insight and just sort of by
the by that woman Nutzi at Libyan Nutzi, who was
working at New York Magazine allegedly in some strange non

(24:54):
physical way, became involved in a personal relationship with RFK.
And then they stood it down, and then they investigated
her work and they found there was no change to
the work. And she said, see, I told you there's
no change to the work. They let her go anyway,
So that all unfolded yesterday eleven away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
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Speaker 2 (25:14):
There's the reference to polling the latest the New York
Times polling and polling the average Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin,
and North Carolina. North Carolina might be a little bit different.
Let me come back to that. But it's all within
such a small margin. No one's winning, no one's losing.
They're all within zero zero point two percent. So in

(25:34):
other words, so far within the margin of era, it's
not even worth talking about. What I'm seeing a lot
of commentary around is the writer and the writer is
this in recent elections in twenty twenty two and twenty
four to twenty two being the midterm. Of course, in
recent elections, the polls tended to systematically underestimate or overestimate
one side, so that happens, either of them could win

(25:57):
and win on the night easily, So all of this
may be for nothing. Nationwide, Harris is officially ahead by
one point on average. There's only one major national pole
showing Harris improving in any way, shape or form last week. Overall,
if you're looking once again at averages, it's moving towards Trump,

(26:18):
but once again not in a way that you would go, well,
there it is. He's won, then, because you cannot even
begin to say that North Carolina, they think at this
point might be slightly different. There's a quinnipiac for Harris
ahead by three. He Trump still holds a big lead.
In Georgia. There's a signal pole that has Trump ahead

(26:38):
by a point. So you got two poles. In North Carolina,
Trump's leading in one. Harris is ahead significantly. What's going
on Helene, Hurricane Eleen, so the cleanup still on. People's
lives are up ended. They've got bigger things and better
things to do. So they think the polling could be
all over the place. So Carolina isn't play. North Carolina
doesn't play. But as for the other the swing states,

(27:00):
there's nothing. There is literally literally nothing in early voting today.
By the way, opened in Wisconsin in person. Trump got
that last time by twenty one thousand votes. So in
these states that they should really feel confident about now,
not all of them are going to go their way,
but in these states that they should be feeling pretty
confident about, they're not, and not even closer. And that's
what makes it so fascinating. Five minutes away from seven,

(27:22):
all the ins.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
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Speaker 2 (27:29):
Swicy. Now there's words you need to remember because it's
a trend, the swicy trend, and that's coming to a
restaurant near you. Are sweet and spicy. You put sweet
and spicy together. What do you come up when you
come up with swicy? It's the latest phrase in the
restaurant marketing. In fact, the Food Institute has said it's
the summer of swicy in demand by the consumers. Ten

(27:50):
percent of restaurant menus now have a swicy item that's
expected to go up nine point six percent in the
next four years. Nine point six in the next four years.
I mean, is that just a random pull it out
of you rear en number or what mostly chained Starbucks,
Burger King, all that sort of stuff, buzzy trendy menu items.
Franks have got a spicy ice cream bar. Starbucks have

(28:12):
got a fire strawberry and sprite drink, fire strawberry and sprites. Spicy.
US restaurant traffic dropped three point six percent, so they
need a bit of spicy to you know.

Speaker 11 (28:23):
I remember you Grumpy who used to be the producer
of this show. He used to make a great chili
chocolate cake.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh yeah, I'll do Yeah, No, that's pretty cool. By
the way, speaking of food sausages, the suprema would is
probably the way we went to Westmere Butchery and Auckland
pork and leak classic can't be the classics. But what
I did note in the overall list of winners, and
there's a huge list of winners. The gourmet pork, the
pre cooked the meat ball. Good to see the meat balls,

(28:52):
because meatballs are underrated in my humble opinion. But Peter Tims,
who is famous in christ You do you want to
go anywhere for meat? Peter Tims, you man your meatballs anyway,
he's a winner. The Gourmet Variety sausage, the gourmet beef sausage,
the classes classic burger patty. What I noticed as a
trend is there's a lot of supermarkets that are winners.
So the days of the butchery, I buy all my

(29:14):
meat at a butchery. I don't go to the supermarket.
But clearly what's happened in the supermarket area is a
number of them who are smart, have got their act
together and instead of just having weird, rudeolph cuts put
under glad rap and charging you too much for them,
they've actually got their act together and they're producing some
good stuff. So there's quite a few winners there in
this year's Sausage Awards. The Continental ready to eat sausage.

(29:35):
Ready to eat should be banned. I mean ready to eat.
You don't even need to cook it.

Speaker 11 (29:40):
So what are are you talking? A little boy there?

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Is that what you mean?

Speaker 2 (29:43):
The smoked papprika and jalipino and cheese kransky is what
we're talking about.

Speaker 11 (29:49):
That actually sounds quite good.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Now it doesn't win. It sounds like it's bad for you.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
So how wrong I can be?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
It could be good and bad for you. I suppose, Hey, Wellington,
how are you going this morning? You're ready for your mono?
We'll have a talk about this shortly, big.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
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Speaker 2 (30:13):
Only seven past seven. So the government pulled the Wellington
trigger and will place a Crown observer into the council
that does observing dysfunction sold the dysfunction. Former Wellington Mayor
Dame Kerry Prindergast's well us Kerry, morning to you, good morning.
Make does it pain your heart to watch alders?

Speaker 20 (30:30):
I think for most Wellingtonians therell be some release this morning.
The poll set me indicate that not just Swellington's but
New Zealanders were tired of what was playing out in
our front pages. I am sure the mayor and counselors
and management are also positive about this. It needs to
be sorted.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
What does an observer do that's practical as opposed to
just observing and reporting back.

Speaker 20 (30:56):
I think the terms of reference from what I read,
they have a role certainly in reporting and watching what's happening.
They have to ensure that quality advice is coming from management,
and they have the ability to go outside council to
make sure there is quality advice, and that they have
to make sure that all that advice goes into making

(31:18):
sure the next long term plan, which Council will have
to consult on again is financially sustainable. And they've got
to peraps give some guidance on leadership. A tall order,
but I think the response from the mayor was the
right one. Yesterday wants to work positively accepts it, and

(31:38):
I think that is absolutely the right response.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
From your observation. How much of it's about the mechanics
of running a city versus the ideology and never the
twins shall meet.

Speaker 20 (31:49):
I think it's a combination of everything. A new mayor
and a diverse use around the table, and the complications
of massive under investment and in destruction, how do you
fund it? And all of that came to a head.
Of course, when what they thought would help fund it

(32:09):
the sale of the airport shares. That vote changed, so
they don't have to go back and try and find
where they make up that gap.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Has Simeon read it right? An observer for now, which
is a shot across the bow? I'm assuming, or should
he have gone further in the first place?

Speaker 20 (32:28):
I think the minister has made the right corn I
am positives. He didn't make that decision lightly.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
It is not.

Speaker 20 (32:37):
It is not easy for a central government to step
into local government. Local government's responsible for its own decisions,
and this is a center right government. I am sure
that he took lots of advice and it wasn't something
that he came to an easy decision on. But I
do think it's the right decision. And let's hope with
the right person in there and a council than mayor

(33:00):
and management her now listener, we're going to see the
right response coming from them.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Would you want to be a Crown observer?

Speaker 20 (33:07):
I don't think that's the skill set they're looking for.
They'll be looking for someone who is maybe an accountant,
a financial expert, someone who will be able to display
the qualities I've just said that's the sort of person.

Speaker 16 (33:24):
They'll be looking for.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Nice to talk to. You appreciate it very much, Dame
Kerry Prendergasta former willing to miracles him and it's past
seven task getting from one city to another. More emergency
motel drama in wrote a ruined Ministry of Housing an
urban development supply to keep seven facilities open for another year.
That's now in the hands of an independent Commission of
the Residents and Rapayers. Chairman Reynold McPherson's with us rental
morning to you morning make Do you have any hope

(33:45):
that the independent the commissioner is going to somehow go
your way or it's a foregone conclusion.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
No, we don't have any faith in the commission process
at all. That's set up by the council. It always
seems to come out with the their preferred solution.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Although the mayor's sort of on you, so, I mean,
she's been very anti these emergency housing, hasn't she.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Tanya Mayor Tani taps Or was the housing lead under
the previous minister. Under the previous mayor that's set up
the whole of the housing industry, so I think she's
paying the ends off against the middle here.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Before the last.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Election, Chris Bishop and Tama Podeker in our local MP
Todd McLay all promised to stop dumping homeless and road RUH.
The MSD will not give us the numbers. Omusman has
asked them to help, but they've refused to do so,
so we don't even know the numbers are still they've
brought into wrote ru since the last election.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Now you raise a really interesting point, because I'm seeing
a lot of pushback from the public service at the moment.
Is it possible the ministers if not aware or maybe
are aware. I have told them not to do what
they're doing, but they're doing it anyway.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
That could be the case. We're not privy to that,
but I do know that Caring Aura is still rushing
ahead and pepper potting social housing across many suburbs. Crime's
pretty rampant. But our view is that tourism and the
whole of our economy will recover at the rate at
which the homeless industry shrinks. But they've set up a

(35:15):
homeless industry, so it's got a great deal of impetus
to it, but it can't continue.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's all about reputation isn't renal. I mean you look
at Wellington. You know the reputation of Wellington is it's
a mess. The reputation of Road a Rua is its
home to emergency housing. And that's the thing you got to.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Break exactly exactly, and changing that perception is going to
depend very much on I think the Road Lakes Council
starting to think afresh about a new model and persuading
the ministers not to keep dumping homeless on road Rue.
As long as they do that, this housing, this homeless
industry will continue well.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Articulated Renal. Appreciate your time on the program, Doctor Reyndal McPherson,
who is the Rhetorua District Residence in rate players chair.
And it's twelve minutes past let's make a past game
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up in the city for so many successful years.

Speaker 11 (36:35):
You know it's an app. You don't ring the restaurant, do.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
You not ring the restaurant? Well, we do and then
they deliver via the Uber. Is that different again? What's
the just quickly and you've got me on, don't don't
fire me up this morning, Glynn. There's a new service
from the supermarket. One of the supermarkets used to have
a truck and the truck never turned up. They were useless.
But the same supermarket, while still running the truck, is

(36:59):
running an Uber service now where your groceries come in
five six, seven minutes. Talk about door dash, No, no,
another service, but it's brilliant and I can't work out
why the supermarket would be running an Uber service. Milk
Run Milk Run, while milk Run is so fantastically successful,
while their truck service also paid for there but is

(37:21):
so fantastically useless. Why would you run a good service
and a useless service together. That's my marketing question for you.
This morning, fourteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
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Speaker 2 (37:38):
Small correction to the program are text and from my
wife milk run is now shit big delays. It takes
about forty five minutes now. Last order took an hour
with tons of delays. Useless. It was good for five minutes,
so sorry, they're running now to useless services. She's in
the supermarket as we speak. By the way, seventeen past
seven more insight speaking of retail into our retail sector,
blow me down. If there isn't light at the end

(37:59):
of the time vibe. Almost two thirds of retailers now
confident or very confident their businesses will survive for the
next twelve months. That's a seven percent increase from June.
Number of retailer expecting to meet or beat the Q
four targets. That's nearly doubled. Retail New Zealand do CEO
Carolyn Young is with us. Carolin good morning.

Speaker 15 (38:17):
Well any Mike, how are you this morning?

Speaker 8 (38:18):
Very well?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Indeed, thank you champagne? Or too early?

Speaker 15 (38:23):
Maybe too early? I think let's just keep it on
ice and pop the cork when we actually see the
sales numbers list. I think that would be the wise
thing to do. But it is great to have some optimism,
obviously reflecting the economic numbers that have been coming out recently,
and we just really now need to see the consumer
confidence turn around so that those that optimism will turn

(38:47):
into sales.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is this literally come from one cash rate in the
possibility of another one? Is it that simple.

Speaker 15 (38:55):
Look obviously couplic cash rates and the knowledge that late
now is within the right band and that we do
see the way forward. Up until recently, you know, it
had been a pretty dark tunne on as you say,
we can now see life at the end of the tunnel,
and we can see that in six or nine months
time we should have turned the corner and be right

(39:16):
out of the end of this procession.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Because people, here's my take on humanity. No matter what
difficulties we have, and we do have difficulties and we
will for a while, Yet people are desperate to be happy,
aren't they when you've been miserable for several years, you
want to be happy. That's what drives sales essentially, isn't it?

Speaker 15 (39:32):
Absolutely absolutely that positivity and that wanting to catch up
with friends, go and have a coffee, have a look
around the shops, that sort of thing. Just that energy, enthusiasm.
And if you feel uncertain about your future, about your job,
you know, how are you going to pay your bills?
You're not going to do those things. But if you're
if consumers are more confident around those things, because the

(39:54):
economy is stronger, they're a certainty around your job is better,
then they're going to be out and enjoying going into
the shops and buying those items that they hadn't been.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Did you see TV one news last night on this
very story.

Speaker 15 (40:11):
Well, yes, and no I saw some of those.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay, there was a lady in that story who said
they used to come in and buy one on every color.
Do you reckon that's ever true?

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (40:20):
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Everybody you'd walk into a shop, you guy had one
of those and every color?

Speaker 8 (40:24):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Is that what really happened, Carolyn?

Speaker 15 (40:27):
There are some women that will do that, Yes, Mike, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
One and every color.

Speaker 15 (40:34):
Different mind set for women shopping than men shopping. I
think that's what you have to remember.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Well, I'm glad you said that, not me, Carolyn, or
I'd be in trouble. Carolyn.

Speaker 11 (40:43):
It's a different mindset.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well, she said it, and you can't argue.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
I've just been looking at your Marino Polo neck.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Actually, sure, how.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
Many different colors have you got?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Sorry, backing up the chair.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Is Kate listening in the supermarket to the radioble of
course she is. Everyone listens to the radio and the supermarket.
Come on, get with the program. iHeart seven twenty.

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it gets your trousers, Brian, I go to Frederick's anyway.

(42:20):
It's seven twenty four. Who doesn't love katsu chicken? There's
my question for the morning. Who doesn't love katsu chicken?
And with the katsu chicken and the raps and the lasagna.
David Seymour ha saved us one hundred and thirty million dollars,
and all the monas and wines and whiners and hand
ringers can say sorry. It wasn't the end of the
world after all. Several crimes have been committed in the
school lunch drama, which, of course crime number one. It

(42:42):
should never have been a drama at all because the
previous government, and yet another example of their wasteful, haphazard
way of doing things, should never have got into the
school lunch program business in the first place, because when
they did, they worked out they couldn't afford it and
therefore only gave it to a few, and many of
the few didn't actually want the lunches, but they had
to take them because a kid who did what the
lunch couldn't be made to feel bad, so the other
three hundred had to eat the sandwiches with them. Crime

(43:05):
number two. They only funded it until the election, thus
making it a fiscal cliff. David Seymour should have killed
the thing completely. We got talk down to what we
have now, which is three dollars a pop. Crime number three.
All the handwringers who are pined over and over and
over about how they wouldn't be any good and no
one can make food for three dollars. Kids would go hungry.
It's a scandal. So it went fast forward. The menu's out,

(43:27):
complete with photos of food. Wouldn't you know it? For
three bucks you can do a pretty decent job. You
feed kids, You save money. We have a lesson and
expenditure and wastage, and a government promise has been delivered.
The lunches were eight dollars sixty eight under labor, now
they're three. That's quite the difference, isn't it. What cost
almost half a billion dollars now costs three hundred and

(43:47):
twenty million. And maybe the stories of the teachers helping themselves,
or families getting delivered the extras, or the farmers feeding
it all to the pigs will vanish, along with the
doubters who've made it a pastime, if not a living,
refusing to believe a lot of what was done under
labour couldn't be done cheaper and better if only they
paid attention to detail. And we're driven more by practicality,
unless by ideology and thought bubbles. Asking good old Frederick,

(44:11):
say morning, my Woolworth trucks run by Woolworth's milk run
delivered by a third party Deliveries. That's why it works
because Woolworth's one. Not According to Katie, it doesn't because
Woolworth's aren't doing it. I work for deliveries, the X Trade.
He made the switch two and a half years ago.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
But yes, we get paid per delivery, so it's in
our interest to do it. Well. What I can't work
I'm glad you got a job you're enjoying. What I
can't work out is this. You grab my bags at
the supermarket, you put them in the back of the prius,
and you come to my place and you charge me
the delivery fees six or seven bucks. It's nothing. How
do you get from the supermarket, drive your PRIs to
my place and charge me six dollars and still make money?

(44:49):
That's what I want to know. I'd be happy to
pay mores.

Speaker 11 (44:53):
Pretty economical.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Tis a pretty economical card, Glen, I'd give you that.
What a preck David Seymour had. I mean, this is
what I'm dealing with every stop whining New Zealand. What
a prick David Seymour has cut off dozens of local
hospitality and local catering businesses at the knees. Well, what
he's done has gone out to the market and he's
gone to somebody, I've got limited money here, what can

(45:16):
you do for me? And a company's gone and say
tell you what, David, we can do you a bit
of katsu chicken and a bit of Lasagnia and a
wrap for three bucks. Now, if you can't compete with that,
guess what, that's life. That's business. Stop whining.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers. The mic Hosking
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Speaker 2 (45:40):
Like selling a performing asset to fund the current cockps
is not the answer in Wellington. They will be back
in the same hole in four years once they've wasted
all the money from the sharsl To be fair to them.
My understanding in Auckland's into a similar business, or at
least Wayne Brown wants to be in a similar business.
You sell your assets and invest the money, and you
take the money from the earnings of the investment and
you that So it's not like you take the capitol

(46:01):
and spend it all twenty three minutes away from eight
much as we mentioned before the news the winters can
pack up and say sorry, because it looks like you
can provide school lunches at a much cheaper price and
with less waste, and they look more than good enough
to week to meat katsu, chicken, buttered chicken, pasta salads
at three dollars ahead instead of the previous government's eight
dollars sixty eight. There are still the monas though, if

(46:25):
you listen to Morning Report, more for you. But this
is the sort of whining that's been going on this morning.

Speaker 13 (46:29):
I'd like to see the modeling because I'm not convinced
that you can do it for three dollars. I need
to see the modeling of how that's em I possible,
particularly when there's so many dietary requirements.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
David Seymour's with us a very good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So even though you display the lunches for all to
see yesterday and eat them, they still want to see
the modeling.

Speaker 16 (46:55):
Well, the funny thing is I'm a recovering electrical engineer,
so I actually do know quite a bit about mathematical modeling.
And what I've never seen in politics is anyone that
talked about modeling. They don't understands is it's usually a
sort of a prop that the intellectually feeble rolled out
when they don't know what else to say. I must

(47:15):
make the point. That's why I don't go on morning
and report and haven't done for the last five years.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
The truth is I've found.

Speaker 16 (47:20):
The cure to cancer. That's sort of a ways done
for the wrong reason, So we'll fall them. Isn't a
great thing on the my crossing request, Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Having said that, one of the other complaints and what
was the other complain The other complaint is the company
or one of the companies you've hired, have some sort
of auditing process internationally and they've been found wanting true
or not.

Speaker 16 (47:40):
Yeah, that is true. I mean you've got big contractors
providing large amounts for meals, and the risk is always
that once you're in the door, the quality of the
contract and declines. But when this is not new, we
know that, and what we've done has been a lift
to the challenges that other government departs, such as defense,

(48:01):
for example, I've had with the same contractors you've said,
I think you make it work as you can, and
we're basically built into our contract. Really strict monitoring so
that we can ensure the quality stays up. So yeah,
I mean, but this is not new right, Like many
of the contractors that were previously in place, people were dissatisfied,
and you sign a contract, you have.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
To manage it.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Have you been surprised? I know this is a slightly
softball question, but have you been? Tom? I'm getting really
depressed at the number. I mean, you've solved the problem.
You've irrefutably solved the problem at three dollars. I saw
what you've served up. I see it, I get it.
It's edible. You've fixed the problem. Yet people still don't
want to see that it's fixed, indicating that there are

(48:43):
people who literally will not accept that you're right and
you delivered, and there's something wrong with us, isn't there.

Speaker 16 (48:52):
Well, we've put it out of the way. I think
what has been done is actually quite amazing. But it's
not really me that's doneed I just let a group
of people get on with it. And if you look
at these businesses, if you look at the Volunteer Expert
Advisory Group, people like stef Arramunger who led it, people

(49:12):
like the Heart Foundation who volunteered people that just came
off from business in one case, you know, getting pretty
big pay cups. I suspect for the government daily rate
is a bit less than they normally expect, but they
did it for New Zealand. Those people actually really pulled
together something really different. The Ministry of Education yesterday said

(49:33):
that you know, we're not used to operating like this.
It's been a real eye opener for us. So all
I've done is bring together a group of people, business,
voluntary sector, government and say here's a big target three dollars.
Can we do it? And actually, given those conditions, they're
underway and we're basically if we've done this as a

(49:54):
government five years ago, if labor had adopted this model,
the total savings to date would be eight hundred and
sixty million dollars. Instead, we have eight hundred and sixty
million more debts that you know ironically that the children
getting the lunches will have to pay more than anyone.
So look, I can see why some people might be
indignantal but you know, we've done something quite different here.

(50:17):
We've done something that I always looked in COVID. I thought,
why can't the government work with business more? So that's
all we've done and maybe people come around to believe
it someday.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Is that a whole of government model you can sort
of splash about the place.

Speaker 16 (50:29):
Now, Well, I certainly think there's other areas where you
just ask yourself, white the slate clean. We're not doing
it the old way at all. And if we had
to solve this really clearly defined problem, how would we
do it? And yeah, I'm thinking about a few other
ways we might be able to do it, such as
around school attendance.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, what about the opportunity for businesses who can see
a very very large program and they make something that
is in the lunch, whether it be the rise, the
chicken or the whatever, that can feed into that. Surely
there's an opportunity there.

Speaker 16 (51:03):
Well, there's massive opportunities. We had almost twenty companies at
the launch yesterday. You take Chickens for example, that they're
taking eighteen tons of chicken every two weeks for this program.
So I'd say, you know, good news for text and players,
great news for kids, but disaster.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
If you're a pecond good to talk to, you appreciate it.
David Seymour, Associate Minister of Education, eighteen minutes away from
seven housing. This morning, Infometrics have new numbers for you, Auckland, Wellington,
Otago Three most unaffordable places in the country. The average
home or income fifty four percent of your income to
service your mortgage if you're in Otigo, fifty five percent

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in Nelson and fifty four percent in Auckland. Fifty four
percent in Auckland, fifty five percent in Nelson, sorry, and
fifty nine percent in Otago. Where's affordable Wellington? Ask yourself
why forty three percent? Thirty I've seen in Southland, So
thirty percent of your average income in Southland is used
on your mortgage. So your quid's in thirty four and
man over two twenty five. On the coast sweet spot

(52:08):
they're calling two places sweet spots, Marlborough and Gisbon. Marlborough's
a sweet spot because one you've got the third highest
income in the country average income one hundred and twenty
seven grand, are the average house value only seven hundred
and six, so you're laughing thirty nine percent of your income.
Gisbone also a sweet spot. Cheap housing, high income. Wait
till I get to the averages in a moment. Seventeen

(52:29):
to two.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Good the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by the News Talks.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
At Me fourteen to eight. You say, would you like
about Seymour, Mike, but the man does get results? Good
on David Seymour broken the cycle of madness, repeating the
same thing and expecting a different result. Lots more to do,
but great start, Mike. It's the parents job to feed
their kids.

Speaker 10 (52:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I tend to agree, Derek that that ship sailed. We're
down the we're down the path of welfare in this country.
I average all the average numbers. I found it fascinating
the average. I gave you yesterday a couple of wayge averages,
but the average are this is the Stats Department average
wage in this country. And the problem with averages is
there are no averages, of course, and that's how you
get to averages. You get to averages by having people
who aren't average, and some above and some below, and

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then you average it all out and you call it
an average. But the average wage is sixteen hundred and
twelve dollars. That's a week the per R eight coming
in at forty one dollars and fifty two cent. So
you can either feel good about that or you can
feel bad about it, depending on where in life you are.
The average house value in this country I found interesting
eight hundred and five thousand dollars. The average KEYPI saver
balance I found worryingly low at thirty three thousand, five

(53:34):
hundred dollars. If you think that somehow is going to
pay for your retirement, I'd second guess myself. Their savings account.
The average savings account was had fifteen thousand dollars eight
hundred and fifteen thousand, eight hundred dollars in the average
savings account. Average home loan, well, if you're a first
time it's over half a million's five hundred and fifty thousand.
But if you're just an average home loaner, it's three

(53:55):
hundred and eighteen thousand, one hundred and fifty one dollars.
What's your credit card debt? The average credit card debt
in this come tree is three thousand. But that gets
complicated because is that a debted in your moment and
when the bill comes due to you pay you three thousand.
Now you pay your fifty seven dollars because you have to,
and then you keep the rest and then it all
adds up. Average credit score is actually quite good because

(54:15):
you get a credit score between apparently three hundred and
eight hundred and fifty three hundred not good, eight hundred
and fifty fabulous, average score seven to fifty two, So
we're quite Good's that means you can go and tap
into a bit more money. Food bill? How much do
we spend each week? I was astonished at this. The
average is three hundred dollars a week on food. One
hundred and thirty nine of that's on general grocery, thirty

(54:38):
is on restaurants, twenty three a week on alcoholic beverages.
What's the twenty three? Is that one bottle of wine?

Speaker 10 (54:46):
Do you think?

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Or is that?

Speaker 10 (54:48):
What?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Would you get two bourbon and cokes at a what's
a bourbon and coke cost? I don't know what a
boermin and co costs. It appears where you go, that's
what That's what I'm saying, and that's why we have averages.
Glenn sort of spoils it, doesn't it. You can spend
I reckon you could spend eighteen dollars on a bourbon
and coke. You could, Yeah, exactly. You'd be foolish if.

Speaker 11 (55:06):
Had a flash ice cube and an umbrowler on the side.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Precisely, what's a cheap bourbon and coke with? Well, what's
the cheapest bourbon and coke? Where would you go and
get right home?

Speaker 11 (55:15):
That would be we ride poor cheap one. Mind. You
can't buy a bottle like a proper bottle of bourbon
for twenty three dollars.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
No, you can't, precisely, So you'd have to save up
two locks two weeks worth of savings.

Speaker 11 (55:28):
And make it last. Maybe that bottle lasts for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
How much of the bottle of bourbon cost.

Speaker 11 (55:33):
At least forty five dollars exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
So two weeks is forty six. You haven't got the
money for the coke, so as you're into your third
week of savings now for goodness sake, and then the
coke will go flatten the third well.

Speaker 11 (55:42):
God, it's complic to my general growthrey.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Exactly thirty five dollars a week on clothes. See, you're
not buying one on every color at thirty five dollars
a week. Are You're not at thirty five dollars a week.

Speaker 11 (55:52):
Let's get one color a week exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
You're not going in there and saying, ah, one on
every color. There's no one going into Frederick's. Are they
seven dollars eighty on footwear? It's not a lot to
have to pay seven dollars eighty on footwear? Rent five
sixty eight, that's fairly well known. Power bill is interesting,
two hundred dollars. Does that surprise you? On average a
month two hundred bucks?

Speaker 3 (56:14):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
If you if all those numbers tellied with you your
average and congratulations, ten away from eight cost.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Breakfast with a Veda retirement communities news dogs.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
That'd be Mike. You really can't get a bottle of
bourbon for under eighty Well.

Speaker 11 (56:31):
Yeah, I mean if you're talking proper decent burbon.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yeah yeah, I was trying to sound relatable. That was all.

Speaker 11 (56:35):
I mean, if you are going to mix it with coke,
it doesn't matter quite so much the quality of the bourbon.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
That is true, got a realousy check from the Calm Games.
Not only has it been switched from Victoria to Glasgow,
it's a seriously trimmed down event. Rugby seven's hockey, road cycling,
mountain biking, triathlon, cricket wrestling all gone. There's only ten
events remaining. The Olympic Committee CEO is Nicky Nickel, who
was with us Good Morning Mike. The criteria as to
what made it and what didn't, does it make sense
to you as a bit of a crapshoot.

Speaker 17 (57:02):
Well, really, what it came down to when you look
at the sports for the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow is
it became a financial envelope that the Commerce Games Scotland
we're trying to work within. So they've chosen for venues
in an eight mile corridor and that really drove the
sports that fitted within that. And so that was really
what it came down to for these games. And then
as we look forward, we expect we'll be back at
the games.

Speaker 15 (57:22):
Of old that we all love.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
So if you had a track or a court, you
might be in. If you didn't have whatever you needed,
you wouldn't be Having said that in your note of optimism,
what makes you think the Commonwealth Games really have a
future given where we're at currently.

Speaker 17 (57:36):
Well, I think it's really important first and foremost for
the athletes. And so when I've spoken and communicated with
the sports that haven't made the program over the last
twenty four hours, it's really reinforced to me how important
the Commonwealth Games are in particularly if we look at
athletes who competed in Birmingham which was just hugely successful,
and then through to Paris, sixty percent of those athletes
from the Kiwi team made the top eight. So we

(57:58):
know it's a really important program as part of the
multi sport event. But this year, sadly, just on the
back of the unprecedented behavior from our friends across the ditch,
we are where we are and we will do the
best we can. And certainly for those other sports that
missed out, we know that they're already thinking about, well,
what are some alternatives for them to get that competition.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
The reality is it's not about the sports. It's about
is there a town or a city somewhere that has
the wherewithal the desire and the budget to put it
on properly? What do you reckon? The answer to that is.

Speaker 17 (58:27):
Well, I think there definitely is, and you know, I've
just been up to the Pacific Games Council meeting and
you know, just looking at even having sport competitions in
the Pacific, the interest is really high. So what we're
going to do is make sure that the model is
sustainable and certainly what has happened through this process is
we have seen Scotland be really rigorous and robust around
making sure it is much more cost effective. So while

(58:48):
it's a small program, it has become a baseline for us.
And I'm heading to Glasgow tonight to understand more about
how that model works.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
All right, will you travel well? I appreciate it. Nicky Nickel,
who is the Olympic Committee CEO form minutes away from
eightsc Mike six dollars a double at the retirement village,
Tom I'll see you there, Mike, Bourbon and Co car
TD solve your problem. Interesting insight this morning, I, as
you am well aware of just a regular, everyday, ordinary

(59:16):
New Zealander, but I work with some sort of people
who are just at a different level. Sam our producer
who started working when he left his mum's house about
three and a half months ago. He shops, as it
turns out, we discovered this morning at the award winning
butchery that makes the best sausage in the country. And
he doesn't buy the pork and leak. Of course, he
avails himself each and every week of the wild boar

(59:36):
and truffle. I can't make the stuff up, so the
producer of this program eats wild boar and truffle sausages.
I mean, how do you stay in touch when you're
living in an elevated world like that, when that's sort
of rarefied air and nonsense.

Speaker 11 (59:49):
Don't get him started on chocolate bars exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, he's the guy who drives eight hundred miles to
Sharon's house in South Auckland to buy be the Weirds
Saudi Eurrapan. I mean, some people, some people got no
idea how hard it is to make ends, meet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
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Speaker 11 (01:00:24):
Into the jump.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
After all these years and as far as I can tell,
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enough tension and tension She's put out Tension Too. Second
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studio album, and like all her previous music, none of
it's over three minutes long. She favors something between about
two in two thirty five by your time. You do
that thirteen times, you only come up with about thirtew
minutes worth of music. But what does she get?

Speaker 10 (01:01:06):
And do it forever?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Kylie Mino tens on eight minutes past eight Politics, Wednesday,
Ginny's waste of Currean mcinnulty's with us on on the program, Karen,
morning to you, morning now. I'm extremely well. Thank you,
Mark Mitchell with us as always, Mark, good.

Speaker 10 (01:01:20):
Morning to you morning, Mike morning Curan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Very broad, very broad based question. Karen. I'll start with you,
seeing you're a bit of a guest on the program.
So when you deal with Andrew Bailey and Darlene Tanner
as we did yesterday and of course pulled the trigger
on the Wellington City Council, is our expectation of public
representation artificially high? And really these people are just, you know,
examples of people we know in regular life, and somehow

(01:01:44):
we expect people in public life to be better or
should we expect better?

Speaker 21 (01:01:50):
I think on the whole you get a very high
standard from public servants in this country. But when people
slip off that, it's fair enough to ask Christians it
doesn't matter what you do for a job, going up
to someone and calling them a loser and doing the
l signs probably not appropriate. But I was asked about

(01:02:11):
it yesterday and I said, look, I'm never going to
criticize someone for swearing because I'd be a hypocrite.

Speaker 8 (01:02:15):
But I wouldn't do that, So that's fair question asked.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
But what about Tana? How do you explain that?

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:02:22):
Well, I mean, look, they've gone through a process that
I've deemed that she wasn't honest and dealt with it,
in their view appropriately.

Speaker 8 (01:02:29):
Anyone in any walk of life, if they are deemed to.

Speaker 21 (01:02:32):
Have misled their employers, which is the claim at Stakecare,
then they need to be dealt with And so is
it any different to any other job.

Speaker 8 (01:02:40):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Now that's what I'm saying. What do you recommend? Should
we expect more? Do we expect more or not?

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
No? I think you should. You should.

Speaker 22 (01:02:49):
The public should expect high levels of behavior and standards
from people that they vote in to go and represent them,
whether it be at local government level, regional or central
government level down to here with you and an eye.
So no, there should be a level of expectation around
that at the end of the day, in piece of
human as well, and and and and make mistakes as
lot's the way they deal with them. And as long

(01:03:11):
as you deal with the proper you apologize, you make
your commitment not to make the same mistake and move on.
Then most keys understand that.

Speaker 21 (01:03:18):
We'll take Mark and I for example, we don't agree
on much, but we get on to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Well, there you go, that's true. Carry on, mane.

Speaker 10 (01:03:27):
No, I was going to think.

Speaker 22 (01:03:28):
I was just trying to think of Karen's ever given
the occasionally I missed the odd techle, doesn't it very
often in the rugby? I was just trying to think
whether he's ever called me a loser on any of that.
I don't think he has no.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
And you were very kind to me that time I
got a yellow card down?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
What do you get a yellow card for?

Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
It was I was attempting an intercept and that was a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Deliberate knock on Q. What was it actually a deliberate
knock on?

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Kuren?

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
I was trying, but it was two hands, don't you
It was a It was a genuine attempt at and
then said, and if you got it, he would have
been the hero, but unfortunately got spilled and you got
I said to the referee, don't send them off for
the yellow car.

Speaker 10 (01:04:07):
Just make him do ten press ups? Be fine?

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
And could he, Peter make the paper they out of
the game to their game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Could you do ten press ups, Karen, if I asked.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
You to do them?

Speaker 21 (01:04:16):
Yes, I could. I wouldn't be so confident about twelve,
but I could do ten.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
What about you, Mark? How many can can you do? Ten?

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
I do thirty press ups every morning.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Old stop, get a bed and I do.

Speaker 10 (01:04:27):
Thirty press ups.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
No, I like the show off?

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Come on now?

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
Well, And the reason I do that is because often
it's the only exercise I get during the day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
So are they good form? Are they good form? Press up?

Speaker 10 (01:04:37):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:04:38):
Yeah they are, They're excellent. I get my forehead right
down to the cabin. I don't know if you remember.

Speaker 10 (01:04:42):
Do you remember there's a challenge went out few years
ago about doing twenty five? I just carried it on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Oh well, good on you. Hey, while I've got you, Mark,
where are you at the police Commissioner's job?

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
So that's some process at the moment the PSC is
leading that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Have they given me names or numbers or paperwork?

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:05:03):
So I can't talk about that because it is obviously
a process, but I can tell you that I hope
to have the new police chemist announced by the end
of November, so we'll know then.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So the end of November. And so you've got some
people in front of you. It's in train, so we
are standing by for an announcement.

Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
No, No, it's well and truly in train.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Absolutely Okay, gang raid yesterday. You've got to be pleased
with that.

Speaker 22 (01:05:26):
Yeah, very pleased, because I mean I've invested. I've been
over to a Podoky myself, very strong, we leaders group there,
met with the local community. Really, I was very clear
after last year when a Podeque was taken under siege
that it's a beautiful town that shouldn't be labeled a
gang town. And I'm very proud of the work the
police have done to go in there and really hamm
of the mungelmare.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
The school lunches Kieren yesterday, would you be willing enough
or generous enough to concede that Seymour might have actually
cracked a nut here and at three Bucks and what
you saw yesterday and what you probably could have tasted
if you turned up at the launch isn't actually bad.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
If you look at what was provided yesterday.

Speaker 21 (01:06:03):
Then it may well work, but time will tail, and
we've got to be honest about this.

Speaker 8 (01:06:07):
Time will tail.

Speaker 21 (01:06:08):
We do have providers saying that they can't do it
for three dollars, and we do have schools concerned that
it's going to be pulled out. If he's able to
deliver nutritious lunches to everyone that was previously going to
be doing it, then good on them.

Speaker 8 (01:06:22):
But we've got to wait and see how this goes.

Speaker 21 (01:06:25):
At the end of the day, the government, we're advised
in their own cabinet paper that the changes they were
proposing does rest the achievement and attendance of kids at school,
and so that should be of concern.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
But I'm not going to put the boot in before
the evidence is there not.

Speaker 22 (01:06:40):
So I think they were just approached in a way
that you know, he embraced the commercial expertise that was
available as he's using governments buying power and generoid supply
chain efficiencies and you know, combined that sort of realized
over one hundred and thirty million dollars and then your
cost savings, you know, which is outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Prey break more at the moment. Marke Minchell care and
mcinnulty Politics Wednesday, thirteen Past.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
It'd be sixteen Past Day Politics Wednesday. Kira MacNulty for
Ginny Anderson Mark Mitchell along for the ride as always
this morning, Kieren. I think it was you the other day.
I saw quoted this business of Wellington and you were
running the line that it was a bit of a
smoke screen for the government, et cetera. Did what the
government do for Wellington yesterday make sense or what would
it have required from your point of view before you

(01:07:28):
would to pull the trigger?

Speaker 21 (01:07:30):
Well, it's one of the topics that I can speak
on with some authority, having been Minister of Local Government
previously and having many people asking me to consider intervention
in other councils. My point was really clear that the
government shouldn't be waiting in and shooting their mouth.

Speaker 8 (01:07:46):
Off before they get the advice from DIA.

Speaker 21 (01:07:49):
That advice is critical to any decision and we still
haven't seen it, so I can't give you an honest
answer until the Minister releases.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
But he's got it, so he's got the in the
it does, but your.

Speaker 8 (01:08:01):
Question was if they've done the right thing. Well, I
need to see the advice to give you an honest answer.

Speaker 21 (01:08:05):
But ultimately what we're talking about is pretty much the
lowest form of intervention, a Crown observer solely for the
process for the long Term Plan. It's not across all
Council operations, and in the hierarchy of interventions, this is
about as low as you can get. The way the
government ministers were talking last week, everyone thought that a

(01:08:25):
commissioner was on the cards. The minister wouldn't rule out
whether they would call a fresh election. So clearly the
advice didn't match what they were saying. But nevertheless it
had to have been enough to warrant an observer, otherwise
they couldn't do it. I do want to see the
advice before I can comment beyond that day not a
bad point, mate, Well, I.

Speaker 10 (01:08:43):
Just think that Simon definitely would have considered all the advice.

Speaker 22 (01:08:46):
That has become really obvious, and the Government has been
concerned about the Council's ability to manage the Long Term
Plan amendment and adoption process. I mean, we saw what
happened with the airport shues and the fact that now
they're having to rewrite the long term plan and so
uh and we are we do things. Think these three
things through very carefully, am I. I had the situation

(01:09:06):
and will with the last weather event and making sure
that we keep the recovery going. So Siming would have
put a lot of thought into this. We've got a
Crown observer in there now and we're going to start
to trying to get things back on trip.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
We didn't know, Mike.

Speaker 21 (01:09:19):
We didn't criticize that decision and WHI we thought that
was appropriate. So it's not a case of opposing decisions
just for the sake of it. We've got to take
it on a case by case basis.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Do you find yourself as a more moderate member of
the Labor caucus there, Karen, I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Finding well, I would consider that. I don't know what
you guys think, but I like considering myself reason moderate.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Having said, we did an interview the other day and
I can't remember when there was a couple of days ago.
So one of these regional authorities or bodies or local
government people are looking into this problem that we have
of nobody turning up at local elections, and we've got
one next year. Do you have any obvious answers as
to what can be done in this country. And this
ties into Wellington and they're ineptitude. What is it that
will get us in game aged in local politics?

Speaker 21 (01:10:02):
Yeah, it's a really good question, and it's actually one
I've been thinking about quite a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
I mean, at the end of the day, when you're.

Speaker 21 (01:10:07):
In opposition one, you've got to respond to what the
government's doing. Note I didn't say ip pose, but respond,
and the other one is actually working on some policies.
And as local government spokesperson, this is something I think
about a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:10:20):
At the end of the day. Local government is really important.

Speaker 21 (01:10:23):
It's crucial when it touches every aspect of our daily life.
But we get such low turnout. Is it because what
people see in local government is not reflective of their community,
or is it because the structure of local government means
that not everyone is able to put their hand up.
Because if you think about it, especially where I live,
we've got some very small councils, and councilors get paid

(01:10:46):
a relatively small amount to do what is essentially a
full time job. You're asking workers and people with families
to give up paid employment to serve their communities that
doesn't necessarily lend itself to always the right people coming forward,
So that's got to be something that's locked at.

Speaker 22 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I look, I just I don't know where there's
a bit of fatigue around vote of the tea, around
local government elections. I think that you always see the
dysfunction of the media, you know, And I can say
with my emergency management head on which Kieran had on
before me, is that getting around the country, I see
outstanding leaders. I see outstanding the years in councilors and

(01:11:23):
councilors doing their job. So but you know, it's always
the sort of it's always on the margins and stuff
that's reported through the media. I think that that does
take people's view and it does affect their motivation when
it comes time to come out and vote.

Speaker 21 (01:11:36):
See, local government is often a convenient whipping boy. We
saw that earlier the year at Local Government conference. But
at the end of the day, every single person that's
involved in local government has committed to their communities and
doing their best.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
All right.

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I can tell you there's a head of steam building
for Liam Lawson Mexico this weekend. I told you yesterday.
A couple of people in the game have suggested to
me reasonably knowledgeably that they would not be surprised at
Perez completes the race and announces some sort of retirement,

(01:13:21):
his connection to Mexico being obvious. Motorsport dot Com this
morning are suggesting that Honda are getting a little bit
angsty around Sonoda. Sonoda's there because of Honda, of course,
and the team, and they've been pushing very, very hard
for Sonoda to be given the Red Bull job. If
Perez is booted. Helmet Marco once again has quoted he's
going to get an opportunity Sonoda at the end of

(01:13:42):
the season. But what the reference appears to be is
there's a sort of a test drive that takes place
at the end of the season, so he's talking about
aber Dhabi. At the last race of the season, they
do a bit of testing on the Tuesday after they
run a couple of cars, and of course maxisill on
holiday at this particular point, so I'll stick Goldne Yuki
in there and do that. The problem with Yuki Sonoda
has always been that he's a hot head. He's calmed

(01:14:05):
a little bit, and he certainly has results proved that
he's a very very good driver, and he was beating
Ricardo left, right and center, and he's a good performance driver,
but he doesn't handle pressure well and they've always had
a bit of an issue. And I suspect also the
connection with Honda, muddy's the water slightly. Is he there
because he's brilliant or is he there because of Honda

(01:14:25):
and Hondai. You got to remember in a couple of
years time are no longer going to be supplying engines
to Red Bull and so therefore with Honda, does you know?
So it seems that Liam is on the up and up.
The commentary around Liam as of the last twenty four
to forty eight hours is increasing in intensity, especially I
mean he's got to perform. He's got to keep performing.
Obviously you can't. You know, it's not just one drive
and he's in. But if he does the same in

(01:14:46):
Mexico this weekend as he did in Austin last weekend,
and then goes on maybe even to repeat it in Brazil,
we are talking about some big, big news coming his
way before I suspect the end of the season news.
It a couple of moments for you. Then let's get
across the Tasman to Steve Price. He written news talk.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Zedby setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local
experts across residential, commercial and rural newstalks headb.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
No consumer have done another one of the pointless exercises.
Are the headline they got, which is I'm assuming what
they're after, a bit of the old clickbait, a ripoff
consumer warning over ear New Zealand school holiday fairs. And
the way they did it another one of the little
projects that concludes the inevitable at the end of the day.
Let me come back to it in a couple of moments.
Mike Liam on his fifty fourth lap did the eight

(01:15:36):
fastest time ahead of a stap In in Praiers is
very good stat Mike. I followed Liam closely, especially now
we've got an F one driver doing so well. I
couldn't believe my eyes with the tab giving odds of
five to one of Liam finishing ahead of his teammate.
So I put one hundred dollars on UZI earned the
easiest four hundred dollars I ever Ham It's an odd
odd twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 12 (01:15:57):
Nine international correspondence with said I insurance. The peace of
mind for New Zealand business was in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Australian mate, how are you very well?

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Lydia thought, what an embarrassment of a woman. What are
they going to do about her?

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
Well, not much they can do about her. This, of course,
is the woman who decided to storm into the Great
Hall in Canberra and start shouting about how King Charles
succeeded their land and how he should give back their babies,
and he was killing he was involved in genocide. She's
on a six year term, so the way our parliament

(01:16:32):
system works, she was elected at the last election as
a Green. She had a falling out with the Greens
and so the Greens kicked her out of the party.
She now sits as an independent and she's got three
years to go and there's nothing anyone can do. So
she said, see, she doesn't represent anybody, doesn't represent a party,
and so there you go. So she sits in the

(01:16:54):
Australian Parliament and it was headlines around the world. We
interviewed on the project on Monday night and got from
ITV that was his lead story. And so the British
all saw King Charles being smashed by this crazy woman.
I got to tell you, I was very impressed about
the King. He was short but sweet trip. But look
he's in his mid seventies. I think he Miller is

(01:17:14):
two years older than him. They did twenty seven engagement
ships today across Sydney, including a barbecue in Parramatta which
was very spectacular. Ended the day on the harbor on
a boat. The crowds were substantial and I thought the
age profile of the crowds was extraordinary. Yeah, they busted
in some school kids, but Mike, in general, there were

(01:17:37):
younger astrainers and I'm talking about you know, eighteen to
twenty five year olds standing waiting for hours to just
simply shake the hands of King Charles the Third. I
was very impressed on that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yea, I love the guy. I think he's brilliant. I
think he's a life of service. There's a poll out
here this morning said fifty five percent of New Zealanders
think he should remain or we should remain as part
of the monarchy, and twenty seven percent would flip. But
what do you what's your guess at what Australian's thinking.
I wonder if the number wouldn't have been slightly higher
towards the monarchy as a result of what he's just done.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Yeah, absolutely, spot on. I think the figures would probably
be pretty similar and the Republican movement. Lydia thil has
done the Republican movement the biggest favor in the world
because that would flip more people back the other way.
I don't think there's going to be a referendum on
Australia becoming a republic in my lifetime. And look, I'm
seventy next year, so I might have another what twenty

(01:18:29):
years to go. I don't think, thank you, thanks, I
don't think there will be a republic in our lifetime.
I think we'll stay within there in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
The con How long are you going to stay on
the show? If you're one hundred, would you still do
the show?

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
Well, I've been doing it since I was about twenty two.
I think you are so probably don't let's talk. I
don't like to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
It's how you feel, as that Spice girl once said,
or who you're feeling or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
So Costello was when you say the Andrews government, we
mean the Dan Andrews government.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
No, yes, the Dan Andrews government. He spoke Costello Peter
at a Conservative conference in Sydney yesterday. Now this is
a guy, of course, I hadn't had a great year.
He was chairman of Channel nine. He shouldered a journal
in at Canberra Airport. He was forced to quit, but
he still regarded as the best treasurer we've had in
living memory. Left it after the government that he was

(01:19:24):
treasurer in was defeated. There was no deck in Australia
out this huge deck. So he stands up yesterday and
he talks about arrogance in government. He gave Dan Andrews
a slap on the way through, saying that you know
he shouldn't be involved in treaty negotiations and joining China's
Belton road system. But he saved his best quotes for
the COVID reaction. Now, you and I've spoken regularly about

(01:19:47):
how Victoria was locked down longer than anyone else in
the world, he said, quoted in Melbourne during COVID they
closed playgrounds, swings and slides were chained up to stop
children using them, and and he went on to talk
about how we of course had our you know, you
couldn't go out after night. He said, children weren't dying

(01:20:07):
from COVID, They wouldn't die by using a swing. This
moronic government even decided to institute a curfew. Now you're
not going to catch COVID driving alone in your car
up to nine o'clock at night exactly. And Castello did
say he was scared and concerned that citizens people in
Melbourne gave up their freedom so easily. It was a
very powerful speeches today.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Good on them. This weekend I watched for my sins.
There was a debate. There's been several on Sky News,
which is where you work at one of your many jobs.
But this Christophiley guy who's in Queensland, who I'm assuming
is going to win and win well, he strikes me
as relatively impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
I watched the debate same as you did yesterday, so
we both got not much of a life. Yeah. Look,
Stephen Miles was took over as Premier of Queensland his
labor from Anastasia Palichet. They've been in government for ten years.
Miles was always handed at ticking dime by. They were
never going to win. The LMP will win probably reasonably easily,

(01:21:02):
all though some of the polls are going back the
other way. But Christophull he've got beaten in the first debate,
tied the second one, and this is a third debate
they've had, and I thought he was pretty impressive last night.
He got a bit tangled up on this question of
abortion rights. Why that's a thing in Australian politics. I've
got no idea, absolutely no idea. It's an American thing.

(01:21:23):
There is a very conservative wing of the LMP under
a boat called CATA in Queensland. They've started talking a
bit about abortion laws, but no one else takes that seriously.
Everybody knows that the rights of a woman of the
rights of a woman, and we just get on with it.
And that's what christop fully in the end had to
manage to spit out and say that's what he thinks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
I was reading yesterday You've gone and purchased seven billion
dollars worth of US missiles and I'm thinking that's a
tremendous amount of money. And Miles is going on about
how this is the greatest arms race since WW two.
Would you ever see yourself firing off of missile in
he is Australia in the business of shooting people down.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
I wouldn't have thought so. But it's to terrence, isn't
it That New Zealand probably should go. Well, that's not
a bad thing in Australia spending the money. At least
we didn't have to spend it exactly. Look, weapons procurement
in this country is a mystery to everybody. The Defense
Department is the worst public service in the country. They
don't know what they're doing. They've signed up to this

(01:22:20):
submarine deal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Again, I hate to talk about my mortality, but I'll
be dead before the first submarine set sale. So look,
those missiles can be used by the Navy. Seven billions
a lot of money, but not really in terms of
military requirements. So we've got them where we have to
ever have to fire them in anger. I wouldn't have
thought so, because I presume if we get into a

(01:22:43):
conflict with China, they'll simply turn off a switch in
every electric car and the country stopped running and that'll
be it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Hey, what are you going to do now that Heralds
is closed? You hear that Heralds went bankrupt yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
I can't believe that. I used to go once a
year to that sale. I've still got some magnificent suits
for the book from.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
The Melbourne that Sydney see. This is what saddens me.
Harold's for people who don't know. Everyone who's been to
Melbourne Sydney knows Harold. Harold's been around for forty years.
They've seen it all. And if you can't survive in
retail now, I mean, that says something fairly poor about
the economy, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
I suspect anyone with a dollar who could get out
of Victoria has That's probably why.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Yeah, all right, go well, we'll catch up next week.
Appreciate it very much. Harold's is I mean Colin Street.
They had an outlet in Sydney in the Westfield in
the downtown area. But they did really high end stuff.
That's why I raised it with Steve, because that's all
Steve wears. He wears a lot of tom Ford and
Balenciaga and you know, a lot of silk, a lot
of the SARChI stuff like that's a little colorful for

(01:23:44):
my taste. But nevertheless, that's that's what Harold's did and
for a forty year veteran of the industry, suddenly yesterday
tipped into liquidation just like that. Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard
by new talks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
At be Word is twelve away from nine. So two
Consumer who did their standard weeklet's hate on air New Zealand.
So they did the business. And there's two key bits
to this which reminds you is that things aren't as
die as you or they would make them out to be.
So Consumer tracked the price of six hundred and forty
eight flights over eighteen weeks for a family of four

(01:24:20):
two adults two children under eleven to travel return to
Australia four ten days with their New Zealand and quantas
flights departed from Christjus, Wellington and Auckland en route to
Brisbane and Melbourne. All prices referred to in the investigation
inclusive of return tickets for poor people. So they checked
out the prices at sixteen weeks before the Score Holidays.
This is the whole point about Score Holidays and the

(01:24:41):
fair being a quote unquote ripoff. They checked out the
prices sixteen weeks before departure, six weeks before departure, and
two weeks before departure. Now what do you think they found?
Do you think they found The closer you got to
the school holidays, the more expensive it became. Tickets purchased
for a departure date of July ten, four days into
the July School Holidays were on age three, nine hundred

(01:25:01):
and sixteen dollars more expensive than tickets purchased on June nineteen,
three weeks earlier. That's an increase of one hundred and
forty one percent. Now is that a ripof No? Because
it's supply and demand. Now would any airline, any business
when faced with that level of demand, Because it's simply
supply and demand. The demand goes up, you increase the

(01:25:21):
supply and you go, oh good, lots of people want
to give us money, let's put on in this case
more seats. Now they can't do that. Why can't they
do that because they don't have any planes. Why they
don't have any planes because no one's making any planes
because Boeing's on strike and Airbus is useless, and all
the plans that are ordered are in delays and they
got massive engine problems, so they haven't got any more
planes to put on new routes. The other and this
is the critical point that isn't covered properly in the story,

(01:25:43):
but they do point out to be fair to consumer,
is that Air New Zealand were a mile more expensive
than quantus. So what would the answer to your problem
be If you're sitting there looking at a fair for
Air New Zealand that you think is too expensive, what
would your answer be? Would it be to go to
the other guy who's a lot cheaper and use them?
And what does that then tell you about the situation

(01:26:04):
in the LA industry? This competition and so if this
competition in the market, and the competition is offering a
better deal than another player as a result of everybody
going to the competition, would then the other player go, oh, whoops,
we've lost all of our demand, and therefore the supply
is a problem. Therefore we might lower our prices as well.
In other words, there isn't actually a problem at the

(01:26:27):
end of the day. Is it that simple? Or is
it that simple? Nne away from.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Nine the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Be McDonald's is not a political brand. This goes back
we were talking about this time yesterday. Trump turns up
at McDonald's and all hell breaks McDonald's. They had to
put out a memo, is not a political brand and
not endorsing a presidential election. Corporate America has grown more
cautious about wading into politics. Corporate America is far too
angsty as far as I can work out. And I

(01:26:57):
looked into Glenn was defending Carmela Harris this time yesterday
about her experience at McDonald's or lack of it. Answer
me the simple question. So here's why I've become interested
in it. Tim Will's lyne about being into animate square, right,
So he said he's into animate square and the tanks
were rolling through he lied. Harris and her campaign have
said she worked at McDonald's. She did, quote unquote, she

(01:27:19):
did the fries. There is no pacelet, no tax returned,
no photo, no employee of the month, no one who
ever worked there that remembers her, No franchise, the owner,
no manager, No one ever anywhere at McDonald's Alameda ever

(01:27:39):
remembers her. Says, so talks about it in any way,
shape or form. But her campaign is actively using the
line that she worked at McDonald's.

Speaker 11 (01:27:46):
So she's just like you, Well, you know what they
say about working at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
What do they say?

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
What happens at McDonald stays at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Fair enough? Five minutes away from none.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Trending now with m keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Quick Fire with Liam Lawson. Will Buxton's done this quick
fire for Lillam Lawson. What's he spent his first f
one pay check on.

Speaker 7 (01:28:12):
I bought a cheap car in New Zealands to build
into a really cool car and basically sell the car
or auction the car and then basically give them money
to charity.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
To super route cool car. What position would he never sell?

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
I don't think I can ever sell my race car,
the one I race on track. It's too special.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
What's his most expensive obsession?

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
My most expensive obsession.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
My girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
No, I think he's got himself in trouble. Then he'll
learn what is something he regrets buying.

Speaker 7 (01:28:49):
I've bought some ugs, bought some eggs that I've never worn.
I'm not actually that proud of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
And I don't know why I bought them. What about
a fashion trendy regret?

Speaker 7 (01:29:00):
It's getting involved with I regress spending money on skinny jeans.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
So I thought that was cool, But I did I
wear skinny jeans.

Speaker 11 (01:29:09):
To all, I wear any, have them in every color.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
No, tell you a story at Harold's the jacket I'm wearing.
The jacket I'm wearing today. I'm embarrassed to say the story.
I went to the half priced rack at Harold's and
there was a brand I'd never heard of before, but
it was half price, and I bought a bunch of stuff,
and I thought this should cost me X number of dollars,
and I took it up to the counter and it

(01:29:33):
didn't cost me X number of dollars. It cost me
X number of dollars plus about five thousand dollars. And
I didn't realize that until I looked at the receipt
as I left the shop with my wife who said
the sort of things your wife says to you when
you spent five thousand dollars more than you thought you
were going to and they'd slipped into the rack not
one of the labels, but an expensive label that even
at half price was I wateringly expensive.

Speaker 11 (01:29:55):
So you've got good Mila jet of that one, though,
haven't you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
That's a good jacket O.

Speaker 11 (01:29:58):
It's appeared like famous places.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
It's a jacket for life because it costs me about
eight hundred dollars a day to wear it. Back tomorrow,
Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
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