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November 13, 2024 5 mins

Elon Musk has copped some flak from Italian officials. 

President Sergio Mattarella has told Elon Musk not to interfere in Italian affairs after the billionaire said Rome judges blocking a government anti-immigration initiative should be sent packing.  

Italy Correspondent Jo McKenna told Mike Hosking that Mattarella used very diplomatic language to tell Musk to butt out of Italian politics.  

In response, Musk issued a statement expressing his respect for Mattarella and the Italian constitution, but reaffirmed his intention to continue to freely express his opinions. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Italy bound Joe mccanna, good morning to you, good money,
makee Now Elon Musk, he's involved now in the Albanian
migrant debate. How's that gone down?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wow? This has provoked a massive outcry in Italy. Elon
Musk joined right wing leaders condemning Rome judges who have
tried to block a second batch of Meek migrants from
being detained in Albania, saying that these seven migrants, who
are citizens of Egypt and Bangladesh should be brought to Italy,

(00:28):
which they have been. Now now, Musk said on Twitter
today or X his I should say X. These judges
need to go. And that's just provoked an amazing backlash.
Particularly notable here is a strong statement from the Italian
President Sergio Martarella, who used very diplomatic language today to

(00:51):
say Elon Musk, but out of Italian politics. He said
Italy is a great democratic country and knows how to
take care of itself, and he doesn't expect this kind
of reaction from an ally.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
There's going to be more where that came from.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
It tell you what interested me at the moment, Joe
is that this whole French German thing because they're arguing
that with Ukraine the funding of you need a strong
Europe and France and Germany a basket cases. So Trump
rolls into town, starts dictating terms on money and aid
and all that sort of stuff, and they need a good,
strong leader in Europe who can match Trump, and they're

(01:24):
suggesting it's maloney, given she's of an ideological slant towards him.
Plus of course she seems to be successful unlike France
and German leaders.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, it's quite possible that she would step into that
vacuum because, as you said, Macrol and Schultz are looking
very weak at the moment, and she has a strong
relationship with Elon Musk, as we know, she has a
strong relationship with Donald Trump, and so it's going to
be very interesting to see how she exploits that situation
to try and carve out a different, more powerful role

(01:56):
for herself in Europe.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Exactly what's happening in Napoli, What's what's the mafia? Why
are they killing these kids?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm not sure if we talked about this before, Mike,
but we've seen an increase in the teenage mafia murders,
adolescents killing each other on the streets, some people call
them baby gangs. We've had three teenagers killed in the
last two weeks, including a nineteen year old who was
shot because he stepped on someone's designer trainers. So the

(02:26):
prosecutors are very concerned. They're actually calling for the army
to intervene. I don't know that that's really going to
solve the problem when you've got unemployment and what some
newspapers have called a wild West situation on the streets
of Naples.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
And then we come to the Vatican. So tell me
about the bloke who's designing the new mascot, and then
I'll tell you about my concern at the Vatican that
I'm noticed over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So who's this bloke.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, as you know, we're gearing up for the Vatican
Jubilee celebrations in twenty twenty five. Simone Leno has been
asked to design mascot, a little doll like figure that
is going to be the mascot for this year. But
apparently he has a backstory and he's previously worked on
designs for sex toys. So that's a slight embarrassment for

(03:13):
the Vatican.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I would say, okay, fair enough to so Anyway, I'm
watching the Pope at the window right this last weekend, yep,
and I'm thinking, when are.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
They painting it?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Padding the window?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I mean, have you seen it? Have you seen the shutters?
Have you seen the state of the building? Do they
not keep it? I mean, what I know about maintenance,
Joe is if you let it go, you've got nothing
but trouble.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Why why aren't they keeping it up?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Why aren't they have a program of upkeep for the Vatican?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It is a symbol, isn't it. Well, they have spent
quite a bit on redoing parts of the of Saint
Peter's Square. They have re renovated recently the big altar
inside Saint Peter's Basilica. So maybe the funds have dried up.
But I'll check that out for you and come back to.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Her, please if you could, But have a look at
the pictures that the sh shutters and the windows are
just in dire, dire need of a.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Good sand and some painter.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Come back to me next week, will you ex McKenna.
She probably dreads coming on this program every week with
a random nut job she has to deal with, poor woman,
But have a look at it some time. By the way,
just before we leave Europe, Meta have announced for the
EU customer base that Facebook and Instagram subscription fees are
down by forty percent, So that to a degree does

(04:31):
indicate this is regulatory. By the way, they've been forced
into this, and it does indicate that I suppose you
can regulate these players, because of course we're busy in
this country trying to pass some sort of potentially legislation
to make them pay for news and stuff. Various parts
in the world at the moment are having the same
sort of problem. Somebody's sueing somebody. I'll come back to
it in the moment, but somebody. There's a lot of

(04:51):
angst legally speaking going on with the social media. But anyway,
they've debuted this ad free subscription service for the EU
due to an EU regulation and ten to clamp down
on anti competitive practices by tech companies after the regional
regulators find the company four hundred million dollars for violating
EU data privacy laws. So nine ninety nine euros is

(05:13):
down to five ninety nine for your desktop user, twelve
ninety nine drops to seven ninety nine for iOS and
Android users. The free option will also see unskippable ads
that are intended to quote provide value to advertisers, so
that's where that at. So they're getting a better deal
than we are.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
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