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On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for 11th May 2025, Ruud explains how grow lilies, what pests do to shrubs, how to manage spiders, and what to do when you're uncertain if your plant has died off.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You and your stalk s B Paper wolf Cap with you.
We're going to jump into the Garden with Rud Climb pasted.
I do want to just offer up a small apology.
When I arranged to have Chris Pink, the Minister come
into the studio, I did say we'll try and get
some texts, We'll try and get some calls. In the end,
there was so much that we kind of needed to

(00:33):
talk about in terms of, you know, just running through
the top list, that we didn't get round to any calls.
I was just walking Chris out. He did say he's
more than happy to come back. So I think perhaps
some time before the end of the year we will
definitely get the Minister back in. But so great questions
that came in and hopefully that has been helpful to

(00:55):
There is a tremendous amount of detail that was in
that radio. Let's jump into the garden where it's all
sweetness and light. Rude Climb Pass, good morning, sir, Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Rudo, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, I've got you now. Studios you couldn't find me,
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I know what you did.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'm in the Hosking suite. You know, I am just quiet,
and I have to say I reckon really not to
spill anything now. I tell you what. I was in
Wellington yesterday and I was presenting and then the expert
that was presenting after was from Pukaha talking about the
work that they do there, which is awesome. So they're out,

(01:37):
you know, spreading the good word about the tremendous work
that they do at Pukaha, which is as fabulous. And
I know you've spent an awful lot of time there
over the years. So great to see them out in
the public saying, hey, we do some amazing stuff around
consolation and education. And she was talking about the accommodation
wing that has been built in the last couple of

(01:57):
years as we know, and you know overseas groups that
are coming to stay, different industry groups. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Was that Emily spoke there?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, Julie, Julie Lane, Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, No, I've got my own bedroom there.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
In the climb Past wing, the climb Past Suite.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
It feels that, honestly, it feels like they're to be
quite honest, it's one of those wonderful places where you
can take teachers as well, and it's right and it
is just beautiful.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
For people that don't know where it is, you know
it better than I do.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well. It's it's basically in the Northern Wayappa, you know,
literally about twenty minutes north of Masterton if you like,
and it is a forest that is unbelievable, believable in
terms of noctournals. I go there at night most of
them because it's so cool. Yeah. There you are on

(02:52):
the same main main road. Yeah, it's good fun. And
you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
The other thing just will take calls and questions obviously,
and we'll do that. We'll talk to Linda in just
this moment. But an observation from me, you know how.
You know, there's the whole theory around ecological restoration and
if we create the right environment, we'll get wildlife back
into areas and that sort of thing. And we've started

(03:16):
to see it around Zelandia and Wellington. I can't tell
you how much excitement there is in my small town
of Devenport where it seems. And I don't know whether
this is directly related to the tremendous work of the
local Ecological Restoration Group restoring Takonghaki. But you know, there's
been real effort to sort of restore nature and people

(03:39):
are now regularly seeing sightings of kaka around Takarong, around
Mount Victoria. And isn't that just phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It is absolutely wonderful. You're absolutely right, and that's exactly
what this is about. End of this week, we're going
to Wahki cool. You know what to do?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeh?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I think it's actually quite a good secret. We're going
to release key on way Heki.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Ah how brilliant?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, how And it's and and I started this well
it's not meet at that. It was was Robbie late
Robbie Fennick and Jenny's wife. Yes, that started it off,
but you know, part of the Kiwi Trust. But the
point was I talked to the kids at the three
y Heki schools some time ago. But you know, we're
gonna do k We're going to get kii on the island.

(04:28):
And oh but you've got to do a job here too,
because that means that if you've got kii on way
Heki Island, if somebody walks around with a dog off
lead you'll be very gentle and say, excuse me, sir
or madam, did you know that? And and then they
looked at me and said, we can do that. So
basically I trained him how to be really nice to

(04:50):
the locals who actually don't want to keep their dog
on the lead. I said, because when that happens, and
I'll promise I'll come to the island, I'll take my
sleeping bag and my mattress and we all go in
room three and we stay there. And at midnight if
I see something on the on the on the on
the you know, on the on the shocker field or whatever,

(05:12):
I'll wake you up and we'll see them feeding on
your school grounds. Man, that it's happening this week.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's fantastic because I saw a news article as well
that little spotted Kiwi being restored into the Upper North
Island as well, now into a sanctuary obviously, so that's
predator free. Where you're releasing Kiwi on waki, is that
predator free or is that just in an area of regenerating.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
It is mostly predator free. There's still a bit of
a bit of thing going on, the trapping going on,
but you know, I think they're down to the last
maybe the last stoat because they can tell that from
the from DNA, and yeah, no, it's it's it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
This is cool stuff. This is transformational, right, this.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Is you said it. You can see this evidence of
this happening all over the place and it's blinking brilliant. Yeah,
it's cool.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And to be fair, it's because people like and I
include you in this quite sincerely had that vision right
twenty thirty forty years ago, going hey, if we work
to rebalance our impact on the environment, then we'll see
this restoration. And I think it's bearing fruit, which.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Is also that's it, and it's called restoration, not conservation.
Conservation is very static. Yeah, I always said. I used
to say to Maggie Berry, which it was Minister for Conservation,
change your letterhead to the Minister of Restoration, rehabilitation, regeneration,
respect and all that, all the eye words you know
that do things. And it's exactly what we're doing now.

(06:52):
It's absolutely fabulous.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's a great insight. Actually, there's a lot in that comment. Radio.
Let's talk all things gardening in the wonderful world of
bugs as well. Linda, good morning.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Ah tee fantastic about the bird life. By the way,
visited visited Zelandia for the first time last month and
goort Kaker for the first time in the flest and
a to Atara. Anyway, six months ago, I bought a
couple of these compact varieties of the Hooda carb trees,
and he goes about four meters high apparently, and I

(07:27):
planted to one out and I've got the other one
part of that on got on a north facing terrace. Anyway,
a couple of weeks ago, I noticed this wonderful green
stick insect living on it, about ten centimeters long from
head to tail. And what's the long term sort of

(07:48):
how's this going to play out? Is that going to
shred my little pahoda carvitree or not. I think they've
got a fairly limited diet, this particular variety of stick
in sept from what I overheard. And you beg on
the central plateau, we haven't got the big coastal Perhooda

(08:09):
trees around here. Of course, what.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
Do you reason?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
I think you'll be fine, That's what I think. Tell me,
is there another shrub or tree next door that they
might have come from?

Speaker 5 (08:23):
No, I've got a remu tree. I've got to fi
Takabak native beech tree. Yep, And that's about all really
came with the plant.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well you could be and Kofi is one of the
things that is eaten by my insects that way. And
they sometimes go onto mistletoe. I've learned that they really
some of these species love mistletoe, and so I'm growing mistletoe,
you know, just to be weird, But there you are,

(09:02):
and they have a go at it. But the mistletoe
basically and he refurbishes itself quite easily, not a problem.
So quite often, quite often these stick and sex are
not that mono eating, you know what I mean, one
thing at They will go for a lot of different yas. Yeah,
absolutely right, So I wouldn't be too worried.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
I've been kicking an eye on that shift the day.
Primnus was right up beside it the other day, so
I escorted off to another property.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
That, yeah, exactly. But listen, go and have a look
at night, because in the evening, quite often these things
are a bit more active and probably a bit more
detectable with a head towards if you like, and you
might find it that once you've got one of those
guys on your plants, you might have another fifty because
these these things quite often sit in the same tree

(09:54):
and they've got eggs that fall down, go onto the
same tree again, and it keeps going. I think if
unless you've got thousands of them, you should be absolutely fine.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Sounds good. Okay, thank you doing.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
That story land. Oh by the way, and put the
order forest is a bit of your forest where you
can see kaka and that sort of stuff, just to
serve the lake.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yes, no, I must have trick had the sometime and
territory mar thing of course. Yeah, that's right, fantastic, absolutely wonderful.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Hey, lovely discussion.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, thanks very best you Linda. You take care your
new sort B eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've got a question for climb Past, feel free
to phone them through Ticks.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
One.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
My carponger rhododendrome has dropped all of its leave. Do
you think it might come back? Or has it died?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
And that's not a good look, especially not for that
particular thing. I think it's over watered to wet position.
That's you know where I would go by exploring this
particular hazard to the plant. Okay, does it make sense? Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Hey, Pete, Pete's something totally different. You know how sometimes
when you shift house or something, you have to find
a new doctor, a new dentist. I've just lost my
my Matt Palmer, who was my arborist. He's stopped doing
the job that he did for years and for twenty
three years or something like.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Wow, and he changing.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
He would be the builder of my habitats, you know
what I mean. Ad found three Services was his gig
and I've unbeknownst, I didn't realize he was going that quick.
But there he is. And Ben and Jake, who used
to work from they have set up complete trees milling
and they're starting basically taking over if you like. But

(11:49):
it's always interesting how you've got these people that you
talk to, they come to your house, they do all
the bruning and all and all the dangerous stuff that
I'm a bit too old for, and then and then
suddenly go they're gone. Yeah, Oh well no, so I'll
give Ben and Jacoba.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
While I was in Wellington yesterday, I chatted with a
guy John, who's a sort of semi retired accountant. Sprightly
eighty year old gentleman who I had quite a long
conversation later on. Now he rang and talked about the
periori moths ring barking his trees. If you can recall
that conversation. Anyway, we had a long discussion about all
sorts of things. In fact, we were talking a little

(12:28):
bit about, you know, as he moves further into retirement,
given he's already eighty years old. I hope you don't mind.
It doesn't mind me saying that, but yeah, you're right.
You know, I think in a professional sense, you know,
with builders and plumbers and arborists and so on, you
build relationships. But I guess we all, well, you'll never
seemingly retire, but people do move on, and then it's like,

(12:51):
what happens next. It's nice to hear that the business
is being handed down, let's say, or we're handed across
to sort of a young generation of young, agile, fit
people that can swing around on trees while wielding chainsaws.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, it makes total sense. Yeah, hey, and next week,
by the way, I'm going to be there's a new
book i'd called The Incredible Insects of a Right and
it'spoke two friends of my Son and Pollard and Phil
Servet and the three of us that the work at
the Papa, which was the bug Lab. It was about

(13:24):
five six years ago and it's now gone to the
United States all over the place. That book is absolutely brilliant,
and I think we might be scoring a giveaway next
week and it will be No, it's good, Peter.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Look out.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
We'll look out for that and we'll talk a bit
more about it next week. We'll take a short break.
We'll come back and talk to Rose after the break.
Quick textra someone's gone, hey, look great about the releasing
Kiwi onto WAYHIKEI what about the birds?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
What about the cats? I'm thinking that kat v Kiwi?
I don't know. Would I put my money on a Kiwi?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I would if you've got a big, big kiwek adult
might be where Yeah? Yeah, because those shut up. I've
got some really cool t shirts from the nineteen eighties
Kiwi demolished. Yeah, don't worry. You don't muck around with
the kiwi and it's and it's claws and it's it's
it's feet. Yeah. But to be quite honest, the cats

(14:22):
are now becoming a little don't know, if you noticed
in the media with Jesse Morgan and people like that. Right,
the cats are now becoming more and more to the
front to have a look at that predator free system,
you know. Yeah, and that's a lot happening lately.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Go on, we have a cat at home, so I
get where you're coming from around No.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Do you like cats?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
I do?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Okay, Well, you should experience the recipes.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Rightio, you can answer all the texts that are going
to come in about that. Let's let's let's be sensible now, Rose,
good morning to you. Here we go, let me get together.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Hello, Row, good morning. I'm going to tell my grandkids that.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Joke I told you one.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Pete.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
I really like that song that you have in the
morning too, but it's not what I rang for. I
thank you, You're welcome. I've got the inside lily, and
they're getting brown tips and they're really getting sins. There
used to be very thick bushes, but now they're growing

(15:38):
very thin.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
E E.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Fungal disease? Would that be it? What color? What color
does what color does it turn? Is there a fungal disease?
You think?

Speaker 7 (15:50):
I'm really not too sure, but they go yellow?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Okay, I assume you haven't overwatered it. Well, it's possible, well,
that might be one. The other one is have you
fertilize it at all when it's started to grow. Well,
it would be a good idea. That could sometimes be
a cause for yellowing if it hasn't got enough tucker.
You know, you get a deficiency of nitrogen for instance,

(16:20):
to say something, and then you get these yellow leaves.
But there's also yellow for fungal diseases and things like that.
So it's really tricky to say what it could be.
But what I would do is make sure that you
give it a good dose of fertilizer at least once
a year. If not, you know, a little bit doesn't
have to be over the top, right, You know, a

(16:41):
little bit of seafood soup and seaweedte that sort of
stuff in the water would be fine, But that's quite
often the case. The other one is if you do
have a fungal disease, there will be other bits and
pieces coming on as well. It might become spotty and
things like that, and in that case you need a
fungal If you like a fungal material.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
That stops what sort of spotty.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, if your leaves become spotty and yellow. That is
quite often a fungal thing. You know, the spot brown
spots for instance.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Brown spots right, because I can see a brown spot.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, one brown spot is maybe not enough to call
it a major disease, but you get it what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, okay, Well, thank you very much for that, Jaked,
it's a brilliant one.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, I'm sorry, but that's happened. Sometimes gets you later.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Good day awesome, thank you very much for that. Rose
and straight to you, Ray, good morning, good morning is available?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, he is every know and then usually on the
Sunday morning between eight thirty and nine.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'll see if I can find him.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, I'm sort of changing the subject. WI but line
ex door neighbors, which has been very helpful.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
Me.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Had a ameres on the other day. He had an
old ram with the head for us quite a few years.
How long do rams live for? The incence he's a
baby and then he's got the volative a sort of
missing in the yard walking around. Now, how olng do
they live for?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I have no idea how a ram, God, it could be,
it could be it could be ten years. I would say,
that's my guest but I'm not really good at rams,
to be quite honest.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, well he was, see what he was?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
That is a good ills It could be, that could
be a good innings way you're thinking of some dinner.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
No, no, no, no, no, it's it's such really, you
get so used to be in the yard. I mean,
there's another sheep who's not common, but ram is a
picture of an animal, and they're really devoted, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
No, I know it to be close. I have no idea.
It could be. It could be indeed, more than ten,
more than fifteen to twenty, I don't know. You'll find
the texts will come back saying we had one for
twenty five years. Yeah, probably, but I doubt it somehow.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
There.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I can't help you on that. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
That's all right. I thought you would have just known
that what the long?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, that would be an infinitely variable Well, there is
an infinite number of variables that would contribute to longevity,
would be the complicated way of saying it. But yeah,
that's right, RIGHTO. We'll park that to one side. Adel
Hello there.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
O, Hello, I just wanted to talk to rud It
was I woke up. I think it was Wednesday, morning,
looked out my windows into this panic probably smaller than
a quarter of an acre, and it was just I
thought it was it was a great big white frost,
but it wasn't. It was just this magical. It was

(20:08):
like a bid cover of the fine, fine white filaments.
And according to our local paper, it's see as they
thought it was balloon spiders. But to have to put
the amount of filaments millions and millions and millions and millions.
And you've got this thought in your head of all

(20:29):
these spiders hanging above, I can't make sense to it.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, these are spiders and you see those quite often
at this time of the year, in autumn time, tiny
spiders that literally go ballooning to a different area. And
what they do is they've got a couple of nozzles
on their bum which they can five seconds. Yeah, wonderful silk,
and it goes into the sky and they're on their
bike and they don't have to pay. In New Zealand,

(20:57):
there you were.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Who I flew yesterday and had a great time. Happy
Mother's Day, everyone to take care for More from.

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