The Resident Builder podcast: January 19, 2025

This week on the show, ZB's Resident Builder Pete Wolfkamp discusses the latest issues impacting the world of construction - and answers questions!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, a very very good morning, and I barn welcome
to you this Sunday morning, the nineteenth of January. Peak
wolf Camp here the Resident Builder, and in a slightly
different location. So as it happens, I find myself sitting
in the Tollrong studios of MZME of News Talk SEB
looking out at an increasingly brightening sky. And it's one

(01:26):
of those flash hairy studios where the broadcast announcer is
ride out by effectively by the cycle path and by
the footpath, by the bus lane and by the now
newly renovated or not so newly renovated Cameron Road right
here in downtown Tolrong. So a very good morning to
you wherever you happen to be in the country, and
nice to be able to sort of take a moment

(01:48):
to get out of Auckland head down here. We've come
down for a wedding and that was last night, so
I had to sort of excuse myself a little bit
earlier than most of the guests and come in here
bright and nearly this Sunday morning. So really looking forward
to it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you've got a question of a

(02:11):
building nature. You can talk about all things building with
us this morning. We're talking about compliance, we're talking about regulations,
we can talk about I got I think there's quite
a lot of correspondence after some comments around bureaucracy the
other day. Sure happy to talk about bureaucracy as well,
and the rules and regulations that govern what it is

(02:32):
that we can and legally can do and potentially illegally
can't do when it comes to building and renovation. But
there's also the practical tips and tricks as well. If
you've got a project that maybe you've started over the
summer break, and plenty of us have ripped into a
couple of little projects and might not be going quite

(02:54):
as well as you expected. Well, we can talk about that,
and I can offer up, hopefully some useful advice that
will get you back on track with your own building renovations, alterations,
and really importantly maintenance pros as well. I think there's
always a sense that we we kind of fall into
a lull around maintenance over the summer break well in

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parts of the country anyway, forget a little bit about
the rain and the wind, and we think that summer
is endless and that we don't need to worry about
that flashing that if the wind drives from a particular
direction we get a leak through that sort of window there,
or maybe there's a weatherboard that rattles in the wind.
If we haven't had so much wind, we tend to

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forget about it, and then winter comes and inevitably those
things can become a problem. So let's talk a little
bit about maintenance this morning on the show as well,
So anything that's on your mind in terms of building construction, maintenance, alterations, renovations, contracts.
Had a couple of emails during the week which I
haven't been able to reply to, but I assure you
I will. In terms of you know, contracts where maybe

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the contract that has left something out of a fixed
price contract and then comes back and says, hey, can
I have a little bit more money into the contract? Well,
how do you work your way through that, particularly if
you've got a good relationship with a contractor. Unfortunately, we've
seen plenty of cases over the last up and teen years,
but seemingly recently as well. There was a story I

(04:25):
was reading about a dodgy concrete contractor operating I think
further south than here. We're taking a deposit, doing a
minimal amount of work, then expecting a further payment well
before any actual concrete was placed, and in some cases
when it was done it was a pretty appalling job.
So there can be from time to time, and I

(04:46):
don't like going down this at of negative route on
the show too much. There can be from time to
time issues with the quality of the contractors that we get.
So there you go, right, he and my thanks to
Ed who seems to have remotely got me logged into
the system as well. So that's awesome, that's working well.
I can see where we're going. Eight hundred and eighty
eighty is now the number to call if you've got

(05:09):
a building question. We'd love to hear from you. The
lines are open. The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
You can text as always which is nine two nine
two or zed BZB from your mobile phone. And if
you'd like to flick me an email, you're more than welcome.
It's Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So we
are underway. I think we've got some technical things sorted

(05:30):
out where we're rocking and rolling now, So give us
a call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. People wolf camp
here as it happens in the Tarronga studio doesn't really
make much difference to the program, but I'll let you
know what I'm up to and then actually as it
happens from here on in, we're not returning back to
Auckland today. We're going to tootle on down to road

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to Rue in particular because it's an opportunity to go
out and talk to the great people that run Wingspan.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Rudd has talked about Wingspan for a while. He's been
heavily involved with it. He's often said to me, you've
got to get there. You've got to get there. Well
today or tomorrow actually is the day, so really looking
forward to that and undoubtedly we'll talk to Rudd about
that as well. Beautiful day here in Taurong and a
fantastic day for an absolutely glorious wedding last night as well.

(06:23):
We're going to take short break. We'll take your calls
right now. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.
Give us a call. Love to hear from you this morning.
Let's talk all things building and construction here at news
Talk zed B. Your news Talk's ed B Petere wolf
Camp with you this morning. Peate wolf Camp, there isn't
builder talking all things building and construction. Will take your
calls on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Will take your

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texts on nine two nine two. Remember there is a
small fee for the text so we'll try and get
to all of your texts. A first one that's coming
from Jeannette, five year old house Russ spots showing through
the exterior paint. Is there any responsibility on a developer
to put that right? Should they have used nail that

(07:06):
don't rust? Many thanks from Jeannette, Yeah, they should use
nails that don't rust, but saying that I did a
project about five years ago actually, and for exterior jowinery.
It was a little cottage that we renovated, and so
I had some decorative balustrades and so on to do,

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and it was all entreated timber. I used stainless steel
brads from a reputable brand, and in a couple of cases,
I've noticed that I've got little rust spots coming out
now stainless steel. The whole point of stainless steel is
that it don't rust right, and yet in these instances,
I've got this little rust bleed through the paint work.

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So they were all fixed in place, all the heads
were punched, they were all filled, they were painted, and
I've still got not too many but a couple. So
it is possible that that might be the case. But
I think, Jeanette, if you're talking about something where and
I have seen this on another building where weather boards
were fixed off with the incorrect nails. I've seen, for example,

(08:18):
Sefit's being nailed on with jib clouts. Now, jib clouts
are what they call gold passivated, so they've got a
coating on them which is suitable to resist moisture in
an internal environment, but it won't last in an exterior environment.
That's we use either a galvanized or a stainless steel
clout or flathead for that sort of work. So look,

(08:39):
I think for you, Jeanette, it's definitely worth having conversation
maybe with the developer. The developer would have paid the builder. Ultimately,
it's the builder's responsibility to install the product in the
way that the manufacture has specified it. In some cases
with clouding systems, the manufacturer will specify a particular brand

(09:01):
of fastener that you have to use, and if they
have decided to use up an old box of something
or rather that they had floaten around, and you can
prove that they're not the specified fastness, then that becomes
the responsibility of the contractor probably an LBP or hopefully
an LBP it's exterior cladding, to come back and rectify that.

(09:23):
So and you've got a little bit of time five years,
the durability warranty is well, the warranty for the lbp's
work is ten years, so there are some options there
for you. But kind of disappointing, isn't it If it's
a five year old house brand new and you're starting
to see RUSS spots through there be interested to know
whether it's extensive or not someone's text through And I

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agree with you, three oh four stainless will bleed RUSS
through the paint. Use three to one six marine grade. Yeah,
But I'd be interested to know whether from the person
who's texts me that, whether you can get three one
six marine grade in brads like for a nail gun.
I'm pretty sure that the only brads you can get
were probably are probably in three h four. To be fair,

(10:10):
there's a part of me that's a little bit old fashioned,
and I tend to still hand nail almost all of
my exterior fixings, whether it's you know, facing sills, scribers,
that sort of thing. And I know it's tempting to
use a brad gun and fire away, but I think
that a good old fashioned galvanized jolt head nail will

(10:32):
last a lot longer, is my gut reaction. But I'd
love to have a conversation with you about that. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Another quick text as well from Suzanne having some high
peat I'm having or being sorry Vinyl is being replaced
in the toilet area the vinyl planks are going to
be laid on the flooring. Does the skirting go down

(10:54):
before the planks are after? Thanks very much. Look, you
can do it either way. If the skirting boards are
already in place and they've been painted, then obviously it's
a little bit easier to leave them in place and
neatly cut the planks to join nicely, and then a
bead of silicon around the perimeter. However, if they if
the skirtings haven't been done, or if you're planning ahead,

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then laying the planking and then dropping the skirting down
on top, leaving a little gap that you can fill
with silicon that allows for a little bit of movement
and stops the water tracking in there is possibly the
easier option, certainly an easier option for the contractor doing
the work. In the same way that let's say, you know,
flooring that's laid. Typically we try and get the plasterboard

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on the walls, try and get that stopped, and you know,
at least a couple of coats on it, get all
the ceilings finished, then come through, do your flooring, then
come through and do your skirting boards after that, so
we can talk about processes as well. It's a phenomenally
important thing with keeping your projects running well is getting

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the order of your contractors lined up so that it's
just efficiency really is what we're talking about. And that's
one of those classics. You know, if the flooring person
comes along and they need to undercut all of the
skirting boards and undercut all of the architraves because you've
gone ahead and finished all of that, and then they're

(12:20):
coming to do the flooring, well, that becomes really difficult.
Whereas if they can come and do the flooring and
then you come through and do your skirting boards, it
is I think much more efficient. Your News Talk c B.
It is twenty five minutes after six. We're taking your calls.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. And a very good morning to you Christine. Ah.

(12:45):
Now we have a slight problem here, Isaiah. I've got
Christine on air, but I can't hear Christine. I'll tell
you what. Just stay on the line. Christine will take
a break and come back to you in just a moment.
Your News Talk seed B six twenty six Here at
News Talks EDB people of camp Resident Builder with you
this morning talking all things building in construction. Let's see

(13:06):
if we've got this sorted with Christine. Hello there, Christine,
how are you? Yeah? No, unfortunately I still can't hear Christine,
so we might have to work that out. Just stay
on the lone, Christine. We'll get that sorted out.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Kick.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Couple of texts that have come through as well. Morning, Pete.
I agree. Now this was an off the cuff remark.
So our first one of the first texts came through
and said, look, I'm in a five year old house.
I've noticed that I'm getting RUSS spots showing through the
exterior paint, obviously most likely from a nail that's been
put in, and perhaps the nail is starting to rust

(13:42):
underneath the paint and underneath the filler. And I'm starting
to see that. And so you can buy stainless steel
brads for most popular brands of nail gun. I suspect
that it's three oh four grade rather than three to
one six marine grade stainless steel, so you might get
a little bit of bleed from that. And then I

(14:02):
made the comment that hey, look, I typically i'm a
little bit still old fashioned. I quite like using I'd
like doing hand nailing on the exterior, and so I
tend to use galvanized jolt heads for that. Good morning, Pete,
I agree with you. Please always hand nail the cladding.
I went to do an inspection on the house that
they'd used nail guns. Seventy percent of the fixings didn't

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hit the studs on the inside. So this is where
kind of just randomly guys are firing off with a
nail gun trying to fix cladding on the exterior and
completely missing the studs. That is, Mike a little bit
disturbing to see. I would imagine. Quick text from Gary
as well, Hey Pete. Having a large deck built, the

(14:46):
builder says that the pine decking thirty two mili premium
has arrived. It's very wet and very heavy. I'm concerned
about shrinkage and excessive gaps. Is it worth delaying and
trying to dry out the planks or any other tips
will be It will be pitch framed with a few
forty five degree cuts, which I'm concerned will end up
looking they'll open up. So a couple of things there, Gary, Look,

(15:10):
I tend to agree with your builders concerned if it's
turned up and it's you know, absolutely sopping wet and
it's all tightly bound together, which typically it is, then
I think it's probably worth undoing the pack of timber,
getting a whole lot of timber strips which we call filets,
and laying the timber out and doing a layer, so

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lay out let's say five boards, put a strip over
the top, two or three boards along the two or
three strips along the length, laying another layer of boards,
laying another set of filets and so on, and dry
stack them, possibly with you know, maybe a cover of
some description over the top that just stops the top
boards getting hit by the sun too much. And wait

(15:55):
until the moisture content goes down and you could measure
the width of the board. Now measure it again in
a week's time and see if it's reduced. The other option,
but it's a little bit more risky, is to lay
the boards tight with the expectation that they will dry.
But then if they don't, then they're down right and

(16:18):
you can't do anything about them after that. So that's
one of the options. And the other thing too, especially
with pine forty five degree cuts, when you're doing your
picture frame, almost inevitably they'll open up. And it's just logical,
isn't it. You think about at one end of the
forty five, it's the full width of the board. At
the other end of the forty five, it's a thin

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sliver of timber that's always going to move at a
different rate than the rest of it. So I think
forty five degree miters or miter cuts almost on any timber,
any exterior timber, but certainly any exterior decking rather but
certainly on pinus radiata. I tend to try and make

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mind square. I know it looks a bit unusual, and
you will end up with an exposed ingrain somewhere, which
is the whole point of doing a miter. But I
think it'll always move and always open up, so dry
it most definitely. I think your builder is right to
have that particular concern. Now, Isaiah, can we get you

(17:22):
to put Christine to hear Christine? Any joy there? No? Okay,
I tell you what. We'll take another break and we'll
come back. We'll try and sort out the phone lines
back in just a moment. Your news talk said, b morning. Sorry,
a couple of technical issues just around getting the phones
to wear. But it has prompted a fair number of calls,

(17:45):
and I love this fair number of texts. Pardon me, Pete.
I've been building for over forty years now. I've always
hand nailed my weather boards. This is fastening weather boards,
typically with a galvanized jolt head. But now I use
jolt screws the only way to go. They secure the
boards fantastically. Certainly I've seen those floating around but haven't

(18:05):
had the chance to use them.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
It.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
But and you know, increasingly we're seeing like top and
bottom plate fasteners and so on, using great big long screws,
because then you don't have to worry about putting on
the six k in or twelve k in strap. So
certainly they've become more and more useful, and certainly none
of us, I think, want to go back to, for example,
using nails for fastening down corrigad iron or roofing iron

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in any way. And so I guess for weatherboards it's
a logical step is to go, hey, let's have a
crack at at screwing them on, which sounds like a
damn good idea to me. To be fair, right, your
newstalks B We're going to try Christine one more time
hello Christine. Oh hello Pete, Hey there, good morning. Thank

(18:51):
you for waiting, Thanks for your patients.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
No worries it all.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
How can I help?

Speaker 9 (18:55):
After Christmas we had heavy rain in christ Church. I
had had some new quealer dick steps done.

Speaker 8 (19:04):
There was just ply on the top, so that wasn't
to bother.

Speaker 9 (19:08):
I took the opportunity and put some lawn fertilizer on
and didn't think about it, walked up the steps which
were paddling with rain, and then when the rain stopped
about three days later, there's big steps and I'm just
wondering what the best thing was. I've sort of looked
a bit and some seem pretty has, but what the

(19:29):
best starting thing would be to try and get rid
of the.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Black and those steps? Are they like where you've walked?
Is it literally from where you've stepped off the garden
path to the door going into the house. Are they
right across the deck or just on the steps?

Speaker 9 (19:48):
They're just three steps leading up in it. They're just
on the steeps. The deep actually ply.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
At the time.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm with you, Yes, yes. The type of decking that
you've used, is it grooved on one side and smooth
on the other.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
We've got this signed up.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Right, and so the grooved is on the underside. I mean,
you know, the really straightforward solution would be if you
if they were the same on both sides, you just
flip the boards over right now, you don't have to
do anything, Okay, so we discount that. I'd probably start gentle,
So maybe just a proprietary deck wash. So I know

(20:28):
Bryce and Jay often talk about deck wash and prep,
which is a Razine product. What that will do is
it will you know, take all the moss and mold off,
but it will also help with some of the staining hopefully,
So you can try that.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
It's new timber, so it's just there's no mold.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
But yeah, yeah, but you know, as a general word
is cleaner. It would really work. So I would probably
start with that. If that's no joy, you could go
something that's maybe a little bit more active, like oxalic acid,
which we use sometimes for removing water stains, might have
an impact. And I just want whether you know how

(21:07):
wide are the stairs?

Speaker 9 (21:11):
Oh about four boards?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay? And width wise is it a meter wide, two
meters wide, five meters wide?

Speaker 9 (21:20):
Well, they go they sort of, they go from two
meters up to about a meter and a half right
and a half meters up to about a meter and
a half. They're sort of on an angle going up
to a deep Yeah. They're in a corner by a
chimney going.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Up to a deck.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah. I mean, look, if it's the other option is
to send it and see whether you can sand the
top off. But you need to try and sand the
whole board. It will look quite different initially because obviously
where it's weathered even slightly, and then you sand it,
that timber will look fresh and it will stand out.
But you might find that it weathers off and sometimes

(21:56):
you just go actually, that was just a really unfortunate instant.
I'm just going to take those boards out and replace
them and just faster the boards there. But it's it's
worth having a go with. I certainly i'd start gentle
deck wash try that. Have you noticed that the sort
of the amount that they stand out, the impact of

(22:17):
those footprints has diminished or is it pretty much like
the day that you.

Speaker 9 (22:21):
Were Yes, No, I think it's been dryer. They are dolla.
I did rub one with a bit of dish washing
liquid and it is slightly sort of least than the
others after a week with right.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, it may also just settle over time. But I've
heard of it a couple of times actually where people
have and it is it's the fertilizer sometimes that you've
used and anything.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
I think it's probably that. Is it sulfate of iron?
All right?

Speaker 10 (22:54):
Right?

Speaker 9 (22:55):
That has probably I think the lawn goes black if
you do moss on that, and it's probably a bit
of that in the fertilizer.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, And it's one of those things that you know
it will it might fade out over time and you
can kind of get used to it. But if it's
an instance where perhaps you you know, you're doing a
renovation in order to sell, and you need it to
look good for open homes, then I just pull the
boards out and replace the boards. That'll be the question.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
No, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
But it's a good thing to keep in mind, isn't it,
to sort of just make sure that people are aware
of it. I really appreciate it, absolutely, no trouble at all.
You take care all the very best you bother then
you and news talk s'd be we'll take your calls
because we've got that sorted out now. Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call and getting

(23:43):
some delightful texts. Now there's there's the beginning of a
little bit of rivalry between painters and builders. Nail guns
have made builders lazy, says this texter. I've had to
punch a lot more nails and now compared to when
I first started painting forty years ago. As it happens,
actually the wedding, so I'm in Tarronger at the moment.

(24:03):
We came down for a wedding of actually our godson,
which was fantastic, and he was marrying his bride and
the wedding was held at her father's place, which is
beautiful property here in tarrong So it was a backyard
wedding which is just fantastic on a glorious day. And
then I heard the rain at about three o'clock this morning,

(24:25):
so they were incredibly lucky to have missed out on
the rain as well. But Rob, who happens to be
a painter, actually thanks very much for hosting us at
your place last night. It was a tremendous event. Your
news talk said, be if you've got a question of
a building nature, we can take your calls. Right now
we've got the lines sorted, we can take your calls.
We'll get them to air. We'll have a bit of

(24:46):
a chat about all things building and construction. I do
quite like that text from the old painter. And now
Angela from North Canterbury. I've got a house that's on
poles and the birds have ripped and nested in the
foil insulation which now needs to be replaced. Can you
recommend what I should place it with in terms of

(25:08):
underfloor insulation. Look, there's a whole heap of different products.
I wonder whether so one of the challenges I guess
for particularly pole houses or houses that are even if
it's not really a polehouse as in many meters in

(25:28):
the air, but if it's an exposed location on a
sloping site and you do get a lot of wind
that naturally just pushes underneath the house. What the wind
does is as it goes through the insulation, as inevitably
a little bit of it will it will reduce the
effectiveness of the insulation. So insulation works by trapping air.

(25:49):
You want as little movement in your insulation material as possible. Now,
typically when we're doing insulation, for example, in a wall space,
we've got building paper on the outside, we might have
rigid air barrier on the outside. Then we've got plasterboard
on the inside. And typically there's not a lot of
air movement, not wind anyway, moving through there, and so

(26:09):
the insulation works well, but in an underfloor situation, particularly
if you were just to install it. So take out
the aluminum foil. Take out the foil insulation ANGELA. That's
the recommendation from all of the building scientists. So cut
that out completely and then install your insulation, and it
might be worth looking at. There's a couple out there

(26:31):
that have like a building paper or a building paper
attached to them, and that helps reduce the impact of
the air flowing through there. You can use autex green
stuff if you're not going to do a wrap over it.
There's mammoth out there. Look, there's a bunch of really
good insulations, but something that is going to tight fitting

(26:56):
insulation is really good. Something that's reasonably dense is good,
and something that's going to resist a little bit of
that wind movement so in terms of density, would be
really good as well. So there's a few to choose from,
but have a look online see what that whole thing
of the impact of air driving through your underfloor insulation has.
So we'll take your questions on that. If you've got

(27:19):
further questions, that'd be great as well. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call a
couple of other texts that have come through as well. Pete,
you're right about the pine miter joints. The coefficient of
expansion tapers with the tapering of the timber. Very well
put Andy, thank you very much for that. I mean,
you can try it. You really can do it in

(27:41):
terms of a miter. And yes, they do look nice
because then you don't get the end grain exposed. But
in my experience they always open up, particularly with pine,
and then you sort of go, well, hang on, if
they've opened up, is that more distracting? Is that less
esthetically appealing than simply having a nice neat butt joint

(28:05):
where you end up with the grain being exposed on
one of those. You can always try to work it
out so it's not the first thing you see as
you approach the deck. You wouldn't have them, you know,
you wouldn't have the butt end facing let's say towards
the stairs so as you walk up the stairs you
see it, or if you're coming around the pathway, you
can orientate them in such a way that the edge

(28:27):
of the board is the visual element and the butt
end is facing somewhere that you're less likely to see it.
So that's how I would approach it after all these years.
Let me see what else we got here. A couple
of other text questions as well. We take your calls.
Really love to hear from you on the phone this morning.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

(28:48):
to call right. Potential implications of an unlicensed handyman doing
unconsented structural renovations on a house, Criky, Charles, that's a
really big question. What are the potential implications of an
unlicensed handyman doing unconsented structural renovations on a house? Okay, well,

(29:14):
unconsented work is obviously illegal in terms of the building code,
So any work that should require a building consent and
doesn't get one will be deemed to be unconsented, unsafe
and unsound simply because you didn't get a building consent.

(29:35):
If someone, I mean if a does a hormony get
prosecuted for doing this sort of thing typically not, but
in this instance, actually Charles who sent through that text,
is the owner of the house aware that a person
is doing unconsented work? Like is the owner completely unaware

(30:01):
of the Building Code and the Building Act and all
of the building regulations we have. And obviously the person
who is doing the work who's unlicensed, is probably not
really interested in telling the owner that they need to
get a building consent because they won't be able to
do that work because all building work, or all building
all restricted building work, which is what consented work is,

(30:25):
can only be done or supervised by a licensed building practitioner,
in which case this person, this handyman, is kind of
out of a job. So look, there's a bit to unpack.
And the other thing is, and I've spent quite a
bit of time on these sorts of things over the
last couple of months, is that unconsented work or work

(30:46):
that should have had a building consent but didn't get one,
or work that had a building consent but didn't get
a CCC. They are massively difficult to formalize and legalize,
let's say later on, so I would steer well clear
of it. And if it happens to be your place, Charles,

(31:06):
then certainly make sure you get a consent for any
work that requires it in terms of the Building Act.
The lines are open. The number to call eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Dennis are very good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Good morning, Good morning students. First by those, I've got
a manmade marble bench top and it's got a chapin it.

Speaker 11 (31:30):
I've had different reports.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
How effective it is to get effects. Do they come
out any good? If you gets good, interpect them or
you're better to put it straight for your insurance company.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
And like claim the whole bench off again. Yeah, look,
I've I know that certainly, like for four makers and
for engineered stone and those sorts of things, there are
quite effective repairs. I mean, we're not talking about a chip,
you know that's that's sort of four or five centimeters

(32:03):
across and you've lost the whole corner. We're talking about
and you know damage from use and that sort of thing.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
What happened is JK down on the edge yep and broken.
It's about the size of your thumb mail, yes, and
it would be about two minimeters.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, okay, and it's deficit and it's marble as a
natural marble.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
No it's not a mate.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Ah okay, look for the engineered stone. I think the
repairs are much more easily done because essentially the person
who's doing the repair is replicating the actual manufacturing process, right,
So they can use the powders, they can use the
adhesives and it will bond so ideally depending on and

(32:53):
if it's engineered stone, then you you know, I mean,
that's that's something that's been around for ten fifteen years,
but prior to that it was a little bit uncommon.
So if you can find out who the original manufacturer was,
or the installer or the supplier.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
We've on the specification of the house.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, fantastic. I would go straight to them and they
will probably they might do it in house, or they
may have some contact. So the ones that I've had
where I've needed to have those sorts of repairs done,
it's either been this company called bench Doctors, who are
franchised throughout the country. If you want to start there,
that's a good place to start.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Thank you. There. My second cliche, our house is teen
years old. We're about to hear a prepainted yep and
a pot for a couple of painters and they say, yeah, yeah,
we'll do the job. Do you just trust them or
do you write specification or how do you go about it?
Because this house, the original painters I don't think paid

(33:52):
a very good job. Sure, and I want it to be
done properly. You know it needs painking us teen years
and make sure that's longer than that in my opinion, m.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I mean, my guess is that you're probably doing the
repaint because you're starting to see a little bit of
wear and tear. There'll be some movement, there might be
a bit of flaking material there, but it's not like
all of the paint all over the house is falling off.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Is it now?

Speaker 6 (34:24):
And all?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, well ten years is not unreasonable in these days.
So in terms of how long it's lasted, Yeah, look,
I think you raise a really good point around a specification.
I would absolutely get the painter because, particularly if you're
going to get a couple of different prices, right, you
want to make it fair that both painters or three

(34:47):
painters are all quoting on the same type of work,
So you know it should include you know, we're going
to arrive on site, We're going to do a full
chem wash of the house. Thereafter, we're going to sand,
we're going to spot prime, We're going to use this
type of primer. These are the paints that we're going
to use. We're going to do. You know, some painters

(35:08):
might go, well, look it's an existing house. I'm going
to do a little bit of spot priming and then
I'll put one coat over the top. Now you might
want to do two coats over the top, which I
would probably recommend after ten years. You know, do you
want to talk to the painter if they're timber sills,
do you have a preference for oil based paints on
that or water borne paints? Does the painter know exactly

(35:32):
what type of painter's already on there so that there's
not going to be any compatibility issues. I would have
all of those things written down.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, it sounds like most people just say, you go, hey,
we're talking for ten this scale all there.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yeah, absolutely, so that's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, No, I think a scope of works right, So
from the painter going, I'm going to do these things.
You know, where I see nails that have lifted a
little bit, I'm going to punch those in. I'm going
to refill those holes that sort of thing. I mean,
I I went to a job a little while ago
where the painters, you know, to be fair in a

(36:15):
commercial sense. Sometimes I'm not saying this for all painters.
They'll just paint whatever's there, right. And there was a
nail that hadn't been driven in. It was sticking out
a good fifteen millimeters from like a pergolar or something
like that, that was painted. They just painted it, right.
They just there to paint. They're not there to ask questions,
do anything else than just get the paint on. You know,

(36:38):
you don't want that sort of situation. So you want
to be able to say, here's my specifications, here's my
scope of work. And particularly if you're getting two people
to price for it, then it makes it fair that
they're both they've both got a description. I wonder whether
you know one option is to I'm going to drop
rasine sales reps in. It is to invite like a

(37:01):
razine rep round and go actually give me a quick
rundown of what it is that a painter should be
doing there. The other thing, too, is that if you're
looking for contractors and you don't know someone through sort
of a personal recommendation, is to look at, for example,
Master Painters and get someone who's a member of Master Painters.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Yeah, I've got the specification yep, and it is so
I want to I don't want anything.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, no, that sounds reasonable, but I think you know,
and then for you, as the person who's paying the bill,
you can look at the work that they're doing and go, yep,
I can see that they're doing what they said they
were going to do, and that gives you a little
bit of surety as well.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Thank you, no trouble at all.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I hope it all goes well. And good luck with
the bench top as well. I know that that can
be a little bit heartbreaking when suddenly you've you've got
a damage to a bench top like that can be
a little bit of yeah, it's it's it is. There's
that that moment you see the jar coming down and
you're thinking, oh, this isn't going to go well, Yeah,

(38:14):
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
It is.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Indeed, nice to chat with you, Dennis. You take care
all of our best. Then we're going to talk. We've
got a couple more calls after New Sport and Weather,
but right now we're coming up to New Sport and Weather.
Got a couple of good texts coming in as well
with regard to decking. Obviously it's summertime, isn't it, so

(38:35):
we're all talking about decking right now. We'll take more
of your texts and calls on that. Remember, as always
on a Sunday morning, we're into the garden with RD
Klein passed. From eight thirty this morning, we'll be talking
to Rud. I'm here in Taronga. He's in christ Church,
but we all managed to connect in. Isaiah, who's doing

(38:55):
a great job figuring all of this stuff out, is
back in the Auckland studio as well. So lovely to
be down here. Actually, it was quite exciting for me
personally yesterday. Apart from the wedding, there was the classic
flyers the Taronga Air Show. Didn't have time to get along,
but it was lovely to hear. I think it was
the I think the Cossir was flying, the Spitfire was

(39:17):
flying and the Mustang was flying as well. So nice
sounds in the sky earlier in the day as well.
A nice start to a fantastic day here in Tarron. Right,
we'll take your calls after news, sport and weather call
us now we'll get everything sorted out eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Of course we'll take your texts as well,

(39:38):
which is on nine two nine two was zbzb from
your mobile phone and if you'd like to send me
an email. I got my emails up and running. It's
Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz So Pete at
newstalksb dot co dot ENZ. As I say, we have news,
sport and weather top of the hour. We're straight back
with more of your calls after the news. Any of

(40:02):
those calls come back, the ones that I couldn't get
to before the new your off camp resident builder with
you this morning to talk all things building in construction,
as we do every Sunday morning here at New Salk
seed B. So nice to have your company as it happens. Actually,
it's quite nice to be in a studio where the
sun shines in in the morning as the sun rises

(40:25):
in the east. I'm down in Tarronga, so the NZDM
or the New Stork's heed B studios are here on
the well main street, not quite the main street, but
pretty important street in Tarrong Cameron Road, and I'm looking
out the pigeons clean up the debris from last night
and people are starting to go to work and getting

(40:47):
out and about, and there's a bakery next door. I
noticed a trade just pulled up and hopped and grabbed
himself quick pie. I think on his way. Obviously, people
are working on Sundays down here in the Bay as well.
So that's where I am today before heading back to
Auckland a little bit later on the week, so looking
forward to it. There he is. I can't quite tell

(41:08):
what type of pie's got from the pie shop next door,
but he's on his way to work as well. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've got a
job to do that you'd like to talk about, whether
it's a little bit of advice or to sort of
chew the fat on best ways, tips and tricks for
getting jobs done, or we can talk all things building
and construction. Here at Newstalk SEDB. We got talking a

(41:31):
little bit about painting just prior to the news as well.
I think it's really important actually to have for almost
all jobs a description, you know. I mean we know
now with changes to building regulation that if you have
building work done that's more than thirty thousand dollars, you
must have a written contract in place. I think that's sensible.

(41:54):
But even for smaller jobs, just an agreement, whether it's
an exchange of emails that go this is what I
intend to do. I think we were going to have
a caller who was talking about, for example, a conquer
great job. And again we tend to think, oh, well,
they're all the same, right, But it might be about
the type of mesh. It might be about how much,
if it, they put into compacting. It might be around

(42:17):
where they're going to put the saw cuts, those sorts
of things. The more that you can set out clearly
in a discussion, like I say, whether it's verbal or written,
you know, via an email exchange doesn't necessarily have to
be terribly formal, but there should be an agreement that goes,
this is the nature of the job. This is how

(42:39):
I'm going to go about it. I think it's really
really important. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. A couple of great texts coming
through a number of great texts coming through This morning, Pete,
I need to attach some security cameras to the polystyrene
walls of my house. The cameras are reasonably heavy, as
they have onboard batteries. Do you recommend gluing a small

(43:01):
piece of ply to the foam cladding to screw into
any other congestions. Thanks Pete, I think you might be
onto something, Peter. I think that's actually quite a wise suggestion.
So essentially to have a mounting board that you would
then mount the camera on. But because the board is larger,
it has a larger footprint, and I would imagine that

(43:24):
even if you've got a smooth finish on the exterior
and you can't necessarily see where any of the chances
are if it's polystyrene cladding, it's onto a baton. The
thing with it might be is that the baton itself
may not be structural. So if for example, you've got
forty mili polystyr and peter on the outside of your house,

(43:45):
you may well have a PVC batton behind there, which
won't give you a lot of purchase. But that batten
should then be fixed over the timber framing beyond, so
suddenly you're at sixty millimeters before you hit any timber.
You'd want to be thirty millimeters into the timber, so
you're at ninety plus. You know, maybe a twenty milimeters

(44:05):
piece of play that you're going to fix to the outside,
like a panel maybe two hundred by two hundred thereabouts,
you would want to do that. The other concern, and
we've talked about this from the good people at Raisine
Construction Systems who do exterior finishes, is that you've got
to be really careful about fixing anything to your exterior

(44:27):
cladding lest it caused leaks in the future. So even
by putting a board on, you know, water might get
that comes sheeting down, the wall gets trapped between the
board that you've fastened and the exterior cladding, and then
it goes down, it finds the screw and tracks along
the screw over time, and suddenly you're introducing moisture through

(44:50):
the cladding and potentially even into the building element. Is
there an option for you, in terms of installing the
cameras to hang them, for example, from the safite rather
than fix them in. And I wonder whether actually putting
the board on might not actually be that great an

(45:13):
idea that if the bracket is oval in some way,
that as long as you can find secure fixing and
that you apply a bead of sealant around the top
edge of it, but not at the bottom edge. That's
really important because what we want to do is stopwater
any water that gets We want to deflect water away

(45:34):
from the fastening that you're putting onto the wall or
the fixing on the wall. But then if water gets in,
we want to allow it to come out. So you
seal the top, but you don't seal the bottom of
a fastening like that. I hope that makes sense to you, Peter,
Good luck to you. Certainly. I had resisted for a
long long time the idea of having some cameras, but

(45:58):
I relented middle of last year. I got Secure Homes,
which is a little company in Devonport around and install
some cameras at our place. And I have to say,
being away, it was particularly useful to know that as
it happened, like a camera a career package. I think
it was school stationary arrived and that we were able

(46:21):
to say to a mate, Hey, look, could you just
come and grab that off the porch. So that's the
beauty of the cameras, isn't it. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call if you've got a
building question. The lines are working, the phone's are working great, now,
so you can call us on eight hundred eighty ten
eighty and if you'd like to continue to send text,
you're more than welcome to do that as well. It's

(46:43):
nine two nine two or ZEDBZB from your mobile phone.
And like I said, I've got my email up and
running this morning as well. It's Pete at Newstalks EDB
talking all things building in construction, whether it's around you know, legislation, durability, contracts,
those sorts of things, but also the practical stuff as well.
We've talked about miters, we've talked about painting, we've talked

(47:04):
a little bit about repairs as well. And my heart
goes out to you where one of our earlier callers, Christine,
had done some fertilizer in the garden and then had
a little bit obviously on her soles of her shoes.
Unbeknownst to her, walked across the newly laid deck and

(47:25):
the fertilizer has left an imprint, let's say, on that decking.
So what do you do about those sorts of things
and repairs to bench tops, because that's always a little
bit heartbreaking when your Christine benchtop gets its first little
badge of honor that it's being used for the intention
of the work that you have to do in a
bench top. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The lines are open.

(47:46):
The number to call is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
More than welcome to take your calls. Right now. It
is fourteen minutes after seven at Newstalk, Sad B. So
let me see about seven seventeen here at Newstalk, said B.
If you've got a building question, hopefully we can we
can find the right answer together. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is that number to call. Jeff A very good

(48:08):
morning to you. Yeah, you know, mate, go you're pretty good,
thank you.

Speaker 12 (48:13):
Right, I've got a like a patchwork quilt of concrete.
It's back in my house. Yes, you know, it's going
to had a piece of slab laid and then another
piece of slab, and it's it's probably fifty square meters, right,
and I just it's I want to make it sort
of flat, look like one big piece, so I can
put a sparkle on it, or put a cardboard on it,

(48:36):
something like that. So how how's best to make them
all look one piece?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
How? Well, when you say patchwork, is that because they
were all laid at different times or.

Speaker 12 (48:50):
So I think the house. The house is like thirty
years or maybe forty years old, and it's it may
have had a big piece in front of it, and
then I've fit on a bit more on, so I
probably would say it it'll all be one hundred miles deep,
maybe one hundred and twenty five dollars deep. Yep, But yeah,
it just looks but I'm sure, and glind it down
and put a screen over the top board and pull

(49:10):
it all up.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, in terms of like where those different pieces but together,
are they neatly aligned? You don't have that thing where
you know, one bit starts to rise or another part
drops and you've got a bit of a toast stubbing
edge there.

Speaker 12 (49:29):
A couple of pieces have risen up and it's a
so some is more moving more than others, right of
an awkward one.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
The reason I asked that is one option is to
stain the concrete right, so to do a color effect
over the whole lot. That will bring it all together.
But that really only works if where your existing pieces
but together they're nice and even. Otherwise you know it's
not going to fix that problem.

Speaker 12 (49:59):
Nice and even, but there's the odd one which maybe
just when it was laid it might have been a
ten mills five miles higher than the other one.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I mean, you could live with that, couldn't you? Five mil?
You know, if you said to me it's twenty five mil,
I'd go, Okay, well that's going to be a real problem.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
No.

Speaker 12 (50:15):
But it's just they all look different because they're all
kind of maybe different greats and concrete. Maybe it wasn't
the most professional job, but you know, I just thought, well,
maybe you could go over with a concrete grind or
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
The only thing with doing a concrete grind is one
you kind of have to do the whole thing, because
otherwise those areas that are ground versus those areas that
are broom finished or exposed will look quite different. The
other thing you end up with a concrete grind is
it's going to be very very smooth, right, which makes
it quite separate as well, you know, and if it's sound,

(50:55):
you could pour a topping over the whole thing. I
don't know whether a screed or actually there's something that's
brand new that's out there at the moment. So Mike Olds,
who's been on the show a number of times from
Razine Construction. He rang me, actually rang me on a Saturday.
I'm in the garden pottering away, and he rings up
and he goes, look, we've got this new stuff, this

(51:17):
micro cement which you can apply over you know, a
solid substrate and you can do colors and it'll be
really durable and that sort of thing. And then I'm thinking,
and he's like, I've got this idea. We'll make a
little Barlin as it happens. Actually, I was in my
backyard looking at my old twenty year old concrete table
and I was like, what about if we put this

(51:38):
micro cement onto the concrete table. Would that freshen it up?
No problem at all. So we'll be doing that. We'll
make a little video of it. That might be an
option is to do a screed of something like that,
but it's all about getting it to bond really well
to your existing one because you don't that's what you want.
And I'm sure we've all seen the thing where you know,

(52:00):
someone will do a screed over the top or try
and do like a ten mil coat and it just
delamina right, Yeah, it looks looks ugly. Delaminates doesn't last
at all, whereas this micro cement is more of a
very thin coat that will again even out the entire area.

Speaker 12 (52:20):
So that one that stuff advertised on the internet, and
that looks like it comes out of a great big,
forty liter pail. You pour it on and just you
just move it around with some kind of I don't
know something, but it does look level and it's kind
of like a self leveling sort of.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Well, there is in someone's text Thrue there is self
leveling compound, right, which we use inside. But again I
would tend to use that inside. I'm not sure about
the durability because obviously you're driving on it and walking
on it and you know those sorts of things. So
you want something that's really hard. I don't think self
leveling compound would be strong enough for that over time.

Speaker 12 (52:59):
The big question is how to get it at self.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
And here, yeah, that's right. So thoroughly, thoroughly, thoroughly clean
your existing driveway, so you'd need to do a chemical treatment,
probably a water blast as well, and then it's it's
about that bonding agent. So for example, if you're doing
like a concrete repair, there will be semontitious materials that

(53:22):
have a binder in them, essentially like a PVA that
will bond. So in some cases you may have to
apply a like an H sort of like an H
prime or a seller coat onto the concrete and then
the product that you're using has adhesive cent it as well,
so it all bonds together. I guess the other option,

(53:43):
if you could, but you run into trouble at things
like thresholds and doorways, is do you go, Actually, I'm
just going to box up one hundred mili over the
whole thing and pour a whole new slab over the top.

Speaker 12 (53:55):
Yeah, that's that's not readied option. Yeah, I mean it's
it's a lot of work for it, it is. Yeah,
but what was the name of that product that you said?

Speaker 3 (54:05):
The so the other So there's a couple of options.
One option would be to look at doing like a
stain over the whole thing and that will blend it
all together. And I'd say I would start with a
website called get new look dot com, so Jason runs
that Get new Look, or I'll have a bit of

(54:25):
a chat to Mike about this micro cement product that
they're bringing out, and that could be an option as well,
because you know, As soon as you mentioned it to me,
I'm like, okay, I can see a use for it
on the concrete table. I made a big concrete table
outside twenty years ago. And my excuse me, my garage

(54:47):
floor is repitted as well, and he reckons it might
work on that. I'll tell you what. Someone's just text
through and go. You could do hot macs over the top.

Speaker 12 (54:57):
Yeah, pretty expensive, to be fair. Now that's stopping your
not your gig. Just as you say, just from something
that maybe could pour on like almost like you do
with a wooden table, you put a yes, just put
a clear prime on it, sealed.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I don't know whether it's terribly common here, but certainly
overseas there are like POxy renders that you can pour
over the top of concrete. Again, whether it'll be durable
enough for cars and vehicle traffic, that sort of thing.
I was watching a show the other day where they
did it around a pool, for example, So they had
concrete down, then they pour in a POxy which is

(55:35):
waterproof coating as well, over the top of that. But
whether or not that's suitable for vehicles, I'm not sure.
I'll make sure that I have a chat with Mike. Yeah,
I'll make sure I have a chat with Mike this
week from Razine and we'll see if that might be
a good solution for you as well. Nice one, all
the best you Jeff, You take care, see mate, Bob

(55:57):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call.
A couple of texts have come and just through to grinding.
So Palmerston North Council grind all the footpaths to get
rid of those high joints. Thankfully, most councils, it seems,
have teams that go out and do that sort of thing.
I noticed them in my area, not recently, but a
couple of years ago, just where you know, sections of

(56:18):
the footpath maybe because of subsidence, maybe because of a tree,
those sorts of things they're unevil and uneven and they
become a trip hazard. And so they'll come along with
a decent sized grinder, often on a set of wheels
and that sort of thing, and then go just grind
their way across the top. Right. Oh, here we go on.

(56:39):
This is interesting. You can get an exterior self leveling
compound called tough floor. It drives to one hundred MPa
bearing in most concretes about twenty MPa. It's self leveling,
but you do need to be careful it doesn't all
run to the lowest area or downhill if the existing
slab is on a slope, and most of them probably

(57:02):
will be, so I mean you could keep troweling it
as it dries in the hope that it'll stay on
the slope. But yeah, the whole point of south leveling
compound is at levels, so really hard to put it
on a on a slope. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you've got a question of a building, Nature will

(57:23):
take your calls as well. Um, oh, this is a
good one. I'll come back to this text in just
a moment. But a quick one from Jane. Hey, Pete,
I'm planning to repaint the eaves of a lockwood building.
It has the original polyurethane clear coating on it. I
want to change that to white as into a paint color.

(57:44):
What preparation would I need to make this change? Does
it need a special paint product to make the new
paint stick? That's from Jane. You're onto it, Jane, Yes,
it does need a special paint to make that stick.
So thorough clean you would need to deglaze the existing polyurethane,
which is essentially give it a sand so that you

(58:05):
knock the glow. You don't have to send all of
the polyurethane off. Obviously, any loose or flaking pieces you
want to remove those. And then it's typically smooth surface
Seala is what you use, and that will bond to
that polyurethane, to that old coating, and then your new coatings,
your new top coats will then adhere to that. Check

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with especially if you go to Razine, check with them
that that's exactly the right product. But I'm pretty sure
it's smooth surface Seala and then you can go on
and do your top coat from there. I'm going to
take short break. We have time for your calls. Love
to hear from you this morning. We've got the line
sorted out, so now it's a great time to call.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It is seven twenty eight

(58:49):
here at Newstalk ZB your news stalks ed B. Eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. I'm
getting we started talking about concrete grinding right. Just in
terms of Jeff's call, he's got a fifty roughly a
fifty square meter area, but it seems like the concrete's
been laid at different times, so it looks a little

(59:12):
bit patchy. You know what's a way of sort of
making that look more uniform, more even. And then one
of the things that happens is sometimes when you pour
two bits of concrete and there's not reinforcing that binds
the two together, is you'll get movement, right, so one
corner will lift or a corner will sink, and then

(59:32):
you've got a little trip hazard there, something to stub
your toe on when you're wandering around summer in your jandles.
And then we mentioned grinding. That couple of texts have
come through about like Parmeston North Council for example, comes through,
they grind those areas off, and then someone Catherine's text
through and Allesley that's Auckland. They just put a great

(59:54):
big patch of ashfelt there on which it makes it
even more uneven. How do we stop the council from
doing this, Ge Catherine, I'm not sure what you can
really do about that, to be fair, If that's the
way that they've decided that they will be able to
do an efficient and cost effective repair then that's what

(01:00:18):
they're going to do, isn't it. I know, I've got
a clear picture in my mind of exactly what that
looks like. And yeah, you're right, it ain't the prettiest.
But then again, grinding the edges is that going to
help as well? It does help, but maybe doesn't look
that pretty either. Talk to your local council, talk to
your local board people. They'll probably be particularly attentive from

(01:00:39):
about now on in through to local body elections in
what's September October of this year. So if they haven't
paid much attention in the past, your local board or
your local councilor I suspect they'll be much more responsive
to acting on their constituents behalf now that they're looking
for votes towards the end of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Couple of someone else's text through I mentioned this micro cement.
To be fair, I don't know a lot about it
at this stage. It's a pretty new product that Razine
Construction Systems are bringing out, and Mike Olds, who's been
on the show with us a couple of times, rang
me quite excited about it the other day, and we've
figured out a couple of projects that we can have

(01:01:20):
a go at it. So when I get a chance
to use it, I'll let you know all about it.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to
call someone else is excited about the micro cement as well?
Could it be used over kitchen terra cotta tiles to
change the look? The issue there potentially is that you'll

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have a deeper amount obviously where the grout line are,
and then a smaller amount over the top of the
terracotta tiles. But also terracotta tiles are never exactly smooth,
so they tend to cup a little bit or their
concave or convex, and so you'll get different thicknesses. So
again whether or not that would show up later on,

(01:02:01):
we'd have to do a bit of testing. But yes,
you theoretically should it here. And also you can choose
colors for it, so you can make it up in
whatever color you like, which is pretty pretty cool. And
a word of caution from this texture, which is great
painting lockwood houses, you'll regret it in a couple of
years later due to the movement of the timber. So

(01:02:24):
effectively you've got tongue and groove, and you could paint
it and you'd go through and you'd fill all the
gaps where the TGNV is is what I think this
texture is saying. And so you could go from the
natural timber with the polyurethane, which if there's some movement
it's not really noticeable, to a consistent white color for example,

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where when you do get movement, you'll get a crack
and you'll get a black line there, and then that
will become obvious. Is what the texture is saying. So
appreciate your opinion. It's a good idea. It's a good
heads up as to whether or not that would work
and whether it's going to look really good long term.
The lines are open for you. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is that number to call. Member. We've got

(01:03:12):
red kline pass coming in at eight thirty this morning.
We're talking all things gardening with rud A slightly longer
and quite intriguing texts that's just come in. I wanted
to do this, is what the texture is saying. I
wanted to do some drainage and had a company come
around with a camera to find my stormwater. What we

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found is a new build about seven years ago. So
this isn't their property. I assume it's another one has
cut through my stormwater connection and then they've gone and
built a retaining wall. I spoke with them and then
asked counsel to help sort it out. Apparently I have
an easement in their property to allow my stormwater. Council

(01:03:55):
found that, but we've now washed but they've now washed
their hands of it, told me to get a lawyer
to sort it out. I was a bit annoyed as
they signed off the property and now it's my problem.
I feel like I have to pay for their negligent
so they call it a civil matter, whatever that means.
I'm in an old state house on the north Shore.

(01:04:17):
What can I do? What can I do that doesn't
cost me going through the lawyers? Please? As I can't
do my drainage until the storm water issue is rectified. Criky.
That is quite the conundrum. I would have thought though,
if someone causes damage, like if your pipe is there

(01:04:38):
and it's legal, and a development happens and they've somehow
cut through it, then why why would you why would
council want to wash their hands of that? Surely it's damaged. Oh,
I suppose counsel are going look it's damage caused by
another contractor that's got nothing to do with us. Therefore

(01:05:00):
you're going to have to sort it out with them.
That's probably their approach to it. That's it becomes a
civil matter. And to be fair, councils will often go, look,
this isn't actually something we have any jurisdiction over. And
if they got a video survey done of their new
line and it's literally punched through your line, that wouldn't

(01:05:24):
come up on a video survey because the video survey
happens inside the existing pipe, which isn't damaged. It's damaged
another pipe. Fascinating. I might get in touch with you
on that one and see what we can what we
could resolve on that lines are open. The number to call, Oh,

(01:05:45):
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number call quick
text before we go the break, Pete, why suggest cheap
options for concrete repairs? The only long term solution is
to rip it up and reladd a new concrete pad.
I hear what you say in AJ I really do.
But you know that's at considerable cost, right and it's

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also I mean from an environmental point of view, if
it's reasonably serviceable. The cost of ripping up fifty square
meters at one hundred mil thick, transporting that to a
tip site or hopefully to somewhere that they can recycle
it and reuse the aggregate is also expensive. Then there's
the cost of the new concrete that you have to

(01:06:27):
truck in and place as well. I don't know if
it's you know, cheap makes it sound like they're unwilling
to spend the money. Cost effective perhaps is a better way.
So maybe we're looking for cost effective solutions as opposed
to necessarily cheap ones. It's not looking to not do
the job well, it's just looking to do something that's

(01:06:49):
cost effective rather than cheap. I think I'll run with
cost effective rather than cheap. At the stage, I've got
a couple of calls. We'll take a short break. We'll
be back with you in just a moment. Here at
news Talk SEDB. Your news Talk's EDB. And what is it?
Forty three? Beautiful warning here and the rising sun shines

(01:07:09):
nicely into the studio which faces out onto the street,
and there is a bakery next door. This is great.
I find that hilarious. So lots of trades and lots
of people going off to work this morning, popping and
grabbing a bite to eat and then hitting the road
nice and nearly, right, Kate, A very good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
Oh, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Hey there, Kate, how are you?

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:07:32):
Good, good, thank you. So I'm just calling about our house.
It's a lowwood house forty years old and the issue
that we have is that two of our doors that
open outwards have the bolts on the outside, and those
vaults are able to be removed and people can just

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come in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
You mean, like in the hinge.

Speaker 13 (01:07:58):
Yes, yes, yeah, We've tried looking around and we just
can't find a solution for it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Oh. Look, you will be able to find some hinges
that have what they call a fixed pin, right, and
so to be fair, most aluminum jeweery you can't really
take the pin out. So again it's probably just because
of the age. So I think if you went to
there's a couple of companies around that specialize in repair

(01:08:32):
and refurbishment of aluminium Jowery. Now, if you got one
of those to come around and simply swap the hinges
from the door to ones with a fixed pin, that
would solve that problem.

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
You know, my husband has got quite about three or
four people around and actually can I can I just
lee some talking standing right here?

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Hi, hey there, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:09:00):
Okay, yeah, the door was put.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
In forty years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
Yeah, we'll probably all technology there, but depending is on
the outside, of course, with the pending the outside, Uh,
it's easy to.

Speaker 12 (01:09:15):
Lift the door.

Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
And yes, and.

Speaker 12 (01:09:19):
Yeah from a security point of view, we're concerned. So
a couple of uh aluminium windows people and basically.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Yeah, no solution. Okay, yeah, have you tried to exceed?

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Yes, you're going to come around next on Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
I think, okay, yeah, I mean I know that they've
they seem to have an extensive range of sort of solutions,
so I think hopefully they'll be able to nail it
for you pardon the pun, and and that should get
it sorted. But yeah, a fixed pin hinge will stop
people being able to do exactly that. And almost all

(01:10:04):
new jowinery will have fixed pin hinges for any faces
to the exterior. Yeah, that's the way to go. All
the best to you, take care bother then, and and
a very good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (01:10:18):
Good morning people. Morning converted to me, I've become a
one zed be no at all, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:10:25):
Delightful.

Speaker 14 (01:10:26):
I love it anyway, What a coincidence. The last man
with the storm wad I rang in about the selick
coming off by living the Hawks Bay with no runoffs,
and it transpires the same kind of thing we've got
storm withero issues. It's on my property, which is a
three shed the actual I'm the only occupy owner. I'm

(01:10:50):
the only one really affected by the runoffs. So we're
just trying to get this is shoe fixed. But it
doesn't solve the other problem. But power coincidental. The other
gentleman that rang in very I just thought he was
ringing out of name.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Every Yeah, I know, I think you know. Run off
is yeah, it's sorry.

Speaker 14 (01:11:17):
Just put some of that expanded stuff in it and
hope for the best. That's their solution.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
What what do you mean expanding Its supposed to be okay,
Well then then maybe we should stick to that and
until you've got your issues resolved there, good luck with that.
I mean, when the storm water or when drainage issues
go wrong, they go wrong, and generally quite a spectacular manner. Right,

(01:11:42):
let's talk to Paula. Good morning to you, Paula.

Speaker 10 (01:11:45):
Good morning, Hey, how you doing good? Thank you? Just
another one about senses and trees. I know you've done
quite a bit.

Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (01:11:58):
So we've been dealing with our neighbors for about the
last five years because he bought the house and the
people previous had siented Tetokey's down by the pool. He
bought the place, he just let the place go, so
all of the trees on all of the boundaries have grown.
That Tetokeys have been a problem for us because our

(01:12:20):
house is towards the back of the section. We've always
done basically what he wanted to do, which has been
either trim the trees on our side. We've had it
cut twice and the last time was last year, but

(01:12:41):
he never cut it. He'll never cut it to the
top of the fence, which is what we're asking him
to do, because it's cutting out all of our light
in the back of our house. We've got a musty
smell in one of our bedrooms because there's no flight
coming in. And last year because I said to him,

(01:13:02):
look what would be a permanent solution to this, what
could you see? And he got angry because they said,
I'm not pulling them out, which is not necessarily This
permanent solution to me, a permanent solution might be that
he cuts them below the fence and then they're low
enough for him to cut them regularly. Yes, so he

(01:13:25):
cut them half a meter above the sent and said, okay,
when they get to two to three hundred, then he'll
cut them again. While they're over that now and he's
intimated he's not interested in dialoguing with us anymore. So
what how do we do? So, how do we work

(01:13:50):
this out so that we can get a good outcome
and where do we go?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I think almost inevitably it will become a legal issue.
So we had last year briefly on the show, mainly
talking about fencing, but we got onto the property act
as well. Ben Johnson, who's a lawyer, specializes in this area,
and my intention is to get him back on the
show specifically to talk about property issues as it relates

(01:14:21):
to not so much fencing, but you know, trees that
are planted. The only case that or one case that
I know of where it was a house that I
actually built for a client who happened to be a lawyer.
It enjoyed quite a nice view of the harbor and
he was able to have an arrangement, a legal engagement

(01:14:47):
with the neighbor to ensure that the neighbour's trees never
grew above a certain height, and it was specified, there
was a datum, there was a reference point, and whenever
the trees got to that height, he could I think
he paid for it himself. He would go and trim
the trees to maintain his view. So there is obviously

(01:15:07):
a legal mechanism for you to protect your view, But
whether or not what you've got as a view, or
whether it's more about amenity and shading and those sorts
of things. But ultimately, I think if you can't come
to an arrangement with a neighbor, you're going to have
to get lawyers involved and see whether or not there

(01:15:30):
is actually something you can do. It might be that
there's actually nothing you can do. That your right is
only to trim trees that are on the boundary, in
which case the neighbor is allowed to let the trees
go as tall as they want and all you can
do is trim them to the boundary. To get the
neighbor to maintain a consistent height over time is probably

(01:15:53):
going to be a bit trickier, but it is possible
there is precedent for it, Okay, but almost inevitably it's
going to be lawyers involved out going to the council,
council and not going to engage. They are going to
say it's a civil matter and to be fair rightly.

Speaker 10 (01:16:11):
So okay, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
All right. Sorry, it's a little better answer than that.
But I will get being back on the show because
it's a great topic to talk about. And thank you
for reminding me. Thanks my pleasure. All the best, Paula.
You take care your new succeed be paul talk to
me about the glass shower door. Oh, opet here you're
going good, thanks buddy, and yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
Yeah, you're pretty good. Then you've got an inline glass
shower door, so it's a glass channel attaction and an
aluminum structural wall and then the hinge door hand off
that and it's just clashing at the top. I'm pretty
sure my house was in sunlight, yes, but looking at
the hinges, it looks like it's already been a just
as once I can see the glass and sort of
hanging further out of the back out of one hinge

(01:16:56):
and the other something might be and there is a
lord a bit of space in the trum running down
the wall.

Speaker 11 (01:17:01):
With a glass. I'm just wondering whether it's.

Speaker 7 (01:17:03):
Actually a reset and there rather than a hinge ofdjustment
but a little bit for me to manage myself.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
And so my question.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
Is is that a glazier I get him to have
a look at that, or do I go to a
specialist shower install a company.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
And I would say not all glaziers will want to
do that. So in Auckland there's a company called Dale's
Glazing and he does shower glass installs, and like I've
used them in situations where I've had to take out
a shower enclosure and then do repairs and then have

(01:17:39):
him reset it. So if, for example, what's happened is
the panel needs to be adjusted and pushed deeper into
the recess or into the channel to allow the hinge
to operate properly, he'd be able to pull all of
that apart and put it all back together again. So
just have a look for Dale's Glazing.

Speaker 7 (01:17:56):
Yeah, yeah, it just looks like like the hinge looks
like there's only a couple of miles swing adjustment, you know,
between the two channels.

Speaker 11 (01:18:03):
They would be marginal.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
Whether I think they can get it on.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
But I just.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
And I mean, you know, if for example, taking the
panel out is not an effective solution, then possibly what
you do is keep all of your existing panels, just
have the glass door remade. You won't be able to
trim it down obviously, have it remailed slightly smaller, and
then put that in and and that then becomes you know,

(01:18:29):
rather than having to disassemble the shower and put it
all back together again, if it's just remaking the door,
that might be not a bad solution as well. But
like Dale about.

Speaker 11 (01:18:39):
It, Yeah, tears.

Speaker 7 (01:18:41):
Thanks. You know, I should have left a little bit
more tolerant. I mean, the shower heaps face the other way,
so there's no chance of any water coming out, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Sometimes you go, oh that's really nice. I've got a
two mil gap, But there's not a lot of tolerance
in the two mil gap, whereas, like you say, a
four or five mil gap wouldn't have made any difference
to the water. Yeah nice, good luck with that. Give
them a call. I'm sure you'll help you out. Perfect Radio.
We've got more calls straight after New Sport and we're

(01:19:09):
the top of the hour at eight o'clock and as
always we will jump into the garden with rough climb
passed from eight point thirty this morning. Had a bit
of a check with him this morning. It sounds like
he's excited as I am to the fact that we're
off to Wingspan tomorrow, which I'm really really looking forward
to as well. We're down in Torona, beautiful down here
at the moment, and lovely to hear those classic fighters

(01:19:32):
flying around yesterday too, back after.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
The break, Baby what sid so we talked about ly
a part of carp and your guitar and Jama smoke
and we're staying it on with cute the songs and
Wi get Gold. Where are you?

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
And home?

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Wa did on the porch for you, sat there alone
throughout the mart and she got a hunch down there.
A guy is snugger around the back empty cans and
I'll be damned your bags were letter pad, your bootstuff.
We're going to your should great.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Fun and a very very good morning to you. It
is six minutes after eight at news Talks. There'd be
in fact anywhere in the country today. It's eight minutes,
six minutes after eight. My name is Pete wolf Camp,
resident builder. This is the resident builder on Sunday, looking
forward to your calls and conversation around all things building,

(01:20:34):
and I guess you know, by extension to that, it's
kind of home ownership as well. So we've we spent
a little bit of time talking about drainage today, we've
talked a little bit about I guess property matters in
terms of you know, neighbors and trees. Certainly, as I
mentioned before, we had a sort of a new expert
on the show last year, a lawyer specializing in the

(01:20:57):
Property Law Act. It is my intention definitely to have
been back with us again, and in fact, just a
quick wrap up on that. Someone has sent through a
couple of links to things like if you go to
Regent Law neighbors trees blocking your view is a good one.

(01:21:18):
The other one that has come through text has come
through you can get a neighbor's tree removed. The Property
Law Act may provide a remedy for homeowners that find
themselves in this predicament. If your neighbor's tree poses an
actual or potential risk, it's unduly obstructing your views or
unduly interferes with your land and your land use, then

(01:21:40):
you can go to the court and have that imposed.
But ultimately it is going to mean engaging with lawyers
in order to get that done. Unless you go to
your neighbor, present all of the legislation and go you
realize that I can do this, You're going to have
to do it anyway. So why don't we just reach
an agreement. It'd be nice if all neighborly agreements were

(01:22:03):
resolved logically and sensibly. We all know that so many
of them don't. Unfortunately, Ruth's going to join us at
eight thirty this morning. What we're taking your calls on
all things building right through at eight thirty this morning,
and your texts as well, and a very good morning
to you, Hamish.

Speaker 11 (01:22:23):
Hey, how's the going?

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Very well? Thinks I mission yourself.

Speaker 11 (01:22:26):
Yeah, Hey, I've got some friends that just bought a
house and one of their neighboring senses is like just
normal timber paling fence and then they've got a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Of us at the top.

Speaker 11 (01:22:42):
Yes, and apparently they don't really like this neighbor. They
think he's a bit crazy or something. So they asked
me if I was able to fill in the trellis
part with like timber palings. Yes, and they need to
talk to their neighbor about doing it. And I wasn't

(01:23:04):
really sure. I was like, well, if that's on so
removed tallie, If on your side of fence, you can
probably do whatever you like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Yeah, I think the probably is a little bit of
a long stretch. I there's a funny thing with trellis.
Apparently trallis is not like let's say you do a
one point eight meter high fence and then you put
a four hundred milimeter section of trellis on the top.
The trellis is not considered to be part of the fence, right,

(01:23:35):
so it doesn't then make the fence two point two
meters high because and this is where it does get
a little bit confusing. Around the country, there are different
planning regulations about the height of a fence. So, like
I was quite surprised to read. I think it was

(01:23:55):
somewhere in the Munno with two for example, that you
can have a two point seven meter high boundary fence.
And I'm like, that's massive, right, you know. And I
know for example, in some suburbs in Auckland and Waycutta
as well, your front fence is limited to being eleven
hundred high. And I had always worked on the assumption

(01:24:19):
that you can build a boundary fence as of right.
So if you build a fence and it's on your
side of the boundary, and you go to one point
eight meters, you can do that without discussion with a neighbor. Obviously,
if you're deciding to share the boundary and put the
fence over the boundary line, you both need to be
an agreement. You can go to two meters with agreement

(01:24:40):
to the neighbor. So if you both give consent, you
can go to two meters beyond that, Often you might
be required to get a building consent for that. So
that's kind of some of the background. So if you
had how high do you think this existing fence is
without the trellis.

Speaker 11 (01:24:56):
I think with the trailers that's probably one point eight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Oh okay, so it's relatively short fence.

Speaker 11 (01:25:03):
Yeah, it's not so much a height thing. It's more
a privacy yes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
See true, Yeah, I can understand that. Again, I'd just
be a little bit cautious around assuming that the inside
face or the face that is on your towards your
friend's property is actually their land, Like do you know
where the boundary is the actual legal boundary.

Speaker 11 (01:25:30):
I would happen to get a lot, yeah, because they
were saying it's their house. The neighbor's house is built first,
then it would technically probably be their sense or something.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I think it really depends on where the boundary is,
and you certainly can't assume that the boundary is the fence, right.
Fences get made or placed all over the place, and
only every now and then do they actually happen to
be on the boundary. You might get lucky and find
that at either end of the fence there is either
the original survey mark the boundary peak like a white

(01:26:07):
peg driven into the ground, or you might find that
if the fence has been done and then the surveyor
has come through to determine the boundary or confirm the boundary,
they put a little silver disk in which is a
survey mark, and then you can figure out where the
boundary is from there. So let's say the fence is
actually on your friend's property, because you know where the

(01:26:29):
boundary is, then I don't think i'd have any hesitation
about going, Oh well, I'm just going to extend those
palings up to the top of the fence. At one
point eight and effectively block out the trellis. I think
if the fence is actually on the neighbor's property, then
you could argue it's actually trespass you're going on to
the neighbor's property without their permission. Or if they can

(01:26:54):
get the neighbor on a good day and just say
how would you feel about us filling in the side
and they go, yeah, you do whatever you want. Then
you do whatever you want and you rip into it
that day. And what if a is like being on
the boundary high if it straddles the boundary, Oh gosh,
that's a really good question. If it you know, like
if the posts, let's say the one hundred bie hundred

(01:27:16):
posts and the dead center of the boundary, so fifty
mili on each side. Again, then you could argue probably
that that side facing the neighbor your friends, is actually
your property. And you could add some I suppose. I
keep circling back to the fact that with the trellis,

(01:27:36):
it's only one point eight meters, right, So it's not
a massively high fence. Most fences are typically solid to
one point eight meters, And if it did become solid
to one point eight meters, would anyone have a concern
about it.

Speaker 11 (01:27:52):
Yeah, you know, okay, Well, is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
It a lot of work to fill in that trellis?
And what would you do because you don't want to
end up with a join that runs along at fourteen
hundred high and whole lot of little short bits of
paling on top. It looked terrible, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:28:11):
Yeah, I don't know about that yet.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
I saw one of those the other day actually, just
by the by. I was out for a walk and
someone had a fence that was about, oh, let's say,
it was like one point two one point three high,
and obviously they wanted to extend it up to one
point eight and they just added pieces to the top
of it, and they weren't even the same type of timber.
It was like a picket fence down below, and then

(01:28:39):
they'd put rough sworn palings on a bit of wonky
framing above it. It just looked hideous, I have to say,
so please don't make it ugly. Hey, good luck with it, buddy,
all the very best. Good on you for helping your
mates out. All right, you take care, see buddy, Bye bye.

(01:29:01):
That's fantastic. Filling in the trellis is going to material
this is a text. Obviously, filling in the trellis is
going to material and visually change both sides of the fence.
So unless the fence is entirely on the property, the
neighbor's property, the friends properly, I can't see how that
would be okay, and I tend to agree with you.
I think even if it was fifty to fifty, let's say,

(01:29:23):
I think you could only do it with the agreement
of the other party. You're absolutely right on that. One
oh eight, one hundred eighty, ten eighty. We'll take a
couple more calls before we jump into the garden with
rud I see if I can answer this one, Pete.
I'm asking about the height of my car port on
a boundary line. The frame is in the specified measurements,
but the roof is on angle for water flow down

(01:29:45):
to the downpipe. Is the height of the roof being
higher on one side still mean it's in the spec
I presume that, if, for example, the roof slopes down
towards the boundary, then that would need to be under
what they call the recession plane. So there's a height
in relation to boundary that very is depending on which boundary.

(01:30:08):
In terms of whether it's north south east west may
depend a little bit on local planning regulations. Sometimes, you know,
with buildings you might have like a gable end right
that intersects the height in relation to boundary, but it's
not an issue because council consider they have a bit
of leeway on that and going it's it's a minor infringement,

(01:30:31):
Whereas if it's the entire building then in fringes then
that's that's a problem. So I think at this stage
it would seem okay as long as the bulk of
the building is within the height in relation to boundary
or within that recession plane. Oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
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Speaker 12 (01:32:18):
Tanya, good morning, good morning, How are you very well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
And you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Wow?

Speaker 15 (01:32:24):
Thank you. I just wanted to go off the back
of an earlier court who raised the issue around boundaries. Yes,
we have a neighbor who's recently moved in and they've
actually moved their fence in towards their home, so within
their boundary. Yes, outside of that boundary of all their trees,

(01:32:46):
bush flowers, et cetera, and often become overgrown and they
don't maintain that we're wanting to maintain that. Actually, are
we trespassing as a result of trying to maintain that
because it's more visible on our side of the fence.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
My understanding has always been that as a neighbor, you
are entitled to remove any vegetation that hangs over your boundary. Right, So,
typically we're talking about, you know, the typical scenario is
there's a fence on the boundary, someone plants some trees
or a hedge or something like that, it grows up,
hangs over. You can cut that off. And so what

(01:33:24):
you have to imagine is there is a line which
is your boundary between you and your neighbor. Any of
your neighbors trees or foliage that grows over that line
you can remove. But I think you're right that if
you try, if you then enter the property and technically
start trimming bushes or something like that, then that could

(01:33:45):
be regarded as trespass.

Speaker 15 (01:33:46):
I guess okay, Now, I just wanted to seek clarity
on it because I'm actually about to start that this morning.

Speaker 12 (01:33:54):
I at all.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Yeah. So look, if you know where the boundary is,
you're i think quite confident being able to go along
and trim absolutely everything back to that boundary.

Speaker 15 (01:34:07):
Okay, no, that's perfect, thank you. I think I made
a huge estate this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Might end up with some slightly ugly looking trees after
a little while, you know where they kind of get
denuded on one side. But hey, look it might prompt
the neighbor to do the right thing. I mean, could
you know I can see it from your point of view.
It's a little bit cheeky, isn't it. You know, I'm
going to move the fence and I'm going to do
some planting on the outside. Then I'm going to ignore it. Well,
that's that's not great. Good luck with the gardening.

Speaker 7 (01:34:36):
Thank you so much all this.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
You take care bother them. Jules are very good morning
to you.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
Hi, Pete.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
We've got a eighteen year old home we rent in
North Canterbury. It has a pair of put roof over
the garage and the bedroom section is parapet with an
internal gathering on the south side, with a beauty and
old product on both the garret and the internal and
there's also in the bedroom section because we've got an

(01:35:04):
internal hallway, we've got a raise section over the bedroom
in the middle of that part. So there's about an
eight hundred mil footprint of beautanol around that which leads
into the back of the southern internal gathering. See, I've
just been I've been busy over the years. It's from
the good old, bad old days when they fly down
with nails and just didn't see. You probably know what

(01:35:28):
I'm going to say that look, it's pretty good. The
old one has popped. But I have used one product
about six years ago and I just stay on top
of it as the maintenance. The product I use, I
probably won't mention it, but it's been pretty good. But
I'm looking for more of a the property we're in
now in Nowson at the moment, it's got like almost
a fiberglass looking look on the deck with out front. Yeah,

(01:35:51):
and I'm probably just looking to, you know, just prolong
the life and protect it. And I use the reasonably
good light colored paint is also to reflect UV And
just if you've got any suggestion, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
No, no, no, it's very well put. I think something
you said is that you're on the right track. You're
looking to prolong its life, but at a certain point
you really need to be looking at replacement. Right that
it's done pretty well for this amount of time, I
think you can extend its life by applying coatings over

(01:36:25):
the top and being fairly fastidious around the maintenance. But
at a certain stage you're probably going to have to
strip it and either relay it or use an alternative product,
of which there are a number out there. And because
you know, what will start to happen, obviously is the
original buttantole will either start to delaminate or the substrate

(01:36:49):
will move, and that'll cause some stretching and some tearing
perhaps in the membrane. And again, you know it was
the bad old days, we just fix it all down
with nails. They tend to work their way up and
eventually come up through the butteanole, and really you can't
replace or you can't fix that without taking the buttantyl off.

(01:37:10):
So I think I would probably say to you, keep
doing what you're doing for as long as you reasonably can,
and then at a certain stage you just say, look,
I'm going to bite the bullet and replace it. Where
the replacement and why people often put off the replacement.
Is that often the in your case, the buttantol extends

(01:37:33):
up under the weather boards, or it goes up and
underneath the threshold of a ranch slider or doors, that
sort of thing. So the repair tends to involve removing
some of the clatting, removing the joinery. Yeah, all of
that sort of thing, and it does become a bit
of a big job.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
Yees, No, that's fine. No, I was afraid you're going
to say that. No, no, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
But look, you know it sounds like because you've been
quite fastidious around your maintenance, you may get another two,
three five years out of it, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Yes, and I think the trick tools will be the
light colored juvy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
It does make a big difference.

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
The heat in the heat stops and movement, of course.
And but no, look, thank you very much. Love keep
maintenance program.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
Yeah, that's right. And maybe just put a side a
few dollars every week and and that'll that'll help ease
the pain. Nice one, you take care, see you and
newstalk seed be and we're going to jump into the garden.
Rude climb past is standing by. We're talking all things
in the wonderful world of gardening and of course the

(01:38:43):
wonderful world of bugs as well. Rude after the break for.

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