Episode 283: Hey Big Head (Feat. Tyler Lepley)

Actor, Tyler Lepley is here to discuss his role as ‘Diamond,’ in the STARZ hit show, “P-Valley.” Tyler tells his story regarding the time he lost his virginity…and let’s just say it’s one for the books. He even opens up about the possibility of going full nude in one of his next shoots. Did we mention Tyler wants ALL THE SMOKE with Jake Paul? Enjoy!

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's it's a lip service. I'm Angela Ye, I'm g
g McGuire. I'm Lauri, y'all, and we have a new
beyond lip service. Uh, I guess this is where I'm
supposed to introduce myself. Yeah, press off the press out
of the valley, back on the West coast, Tyler level,
that's a nice you have. Yeah. Oh this I just

(00:22):
I just threw it on. You know, now, Tyler, you
have such an interesting story to me, because it's not
like you. Your whole life was like one day I'm
going to be an actor, and that's not how things
happened for you know. So, um, you know my uh,
you know, my way into the game was a little
bit unorthodox for sure. Um. I came up right outside

(00:44):
of Philly. I went through a string of failures. Um
thought I was gonna be you know, playing football on
Sunday in the NFL. Didn't work out like that, you know,
But I learned a lot. I learned a lot from
those losses. But you know, when I went through the
string of losses, I moved out West just because I
kind of wanted to start fresh. I was about twenty
three when I graduated from college and Uh, I came
out West and actually I kind of just found my

(01:05):
way into the gym. My cousin was a boxer, so
I was just hanging around the gym and um, you know,
if I'm I got a person kind of finessed a
personal training job and then, um, you know LA is
very saturated. Yeah, l A is very saturated with people
in the business. So you know, just hanging around it
for a few months, probably like maybe months two or three.
Someone had to after the audition, Um, this is probably
about ten audition for something small, and this is about

(01:26):
ten years ago. Um, but I booked that role and
that was kind of the start of me being intrigued
by something new. So you know, at that point I
started to apply myself. You know, I got the head
shots for myself into an acting class and you know,
you did the initial steps that actors try to, you know,
do And ten years later, this is what I've been Um,
you know, this is what I've been applying myself to
and this this is my passion. I found it in
an unorthodox way though. Sure. I actually found out that

(01:48):
you was involved in the box and after you called
out oh boy, that knocked out Nate Robinson, Jake Paul,
I really would love to see you knock him out.
What do we have to do, what we have to
do to make that happen, Like if there a petition
we could sign and you better knock him out because

(02:11):
that would be awful. I'm doing this for p Valley
and then now it's the TI Challenge. No, no, you
ain't gotta worry about that. But I'm listen. If there
is a petition, I'll be we'll we'll be the first
to sign to us for right here. So but um, yeah, man,
you know, I uh, for for whatever reason, you know,
I couldn't really articulated, but for whatever reason, I ain't

(02:33):
like what I saw, you know what I mean? And
you know, to see him, to see him do that.
First of all, I gotta give my hats off to
both both of those men. You know. I guess we
can call them fighters, even though they're not professional fighters,
but they're they're they're stepping in the ring as if
they are, So hats off to them for doing that.
But it's like when you know the game, you know,
if that was a sanction about that would never go down, right.
You don't have heavyweights fighting middleweights you know what I mean.

(02:55):
But but because this is like a YouTube type of
thing and no one's really gonna check Jake doing that.
You know, they're just in it for the money that
they allowed it to go down. But you know, me
being a part of that sport and having the background
to go ahead and do that, Um, you know, I
think I think he needs to pick on someone who
likes to fight back, someone who wants to you know
what I'm saying, stepping there and ice him real quick,
so you know, you know, you know what's funny. Though

(03:17):
I was popping, I was popping my uh hold on,
we allowed to we allowed to be ourselves. We have
the curse. I was popping my ship the other day,
and um, you know, I had noticed that he came
out maybe a few days after he started calling everybody out.
You know, I had noticed. I didn't noticed he didn't
call he didn't call me out. If he's smart, if

(03:37):
he's smart, he'll just let it go because you know,
if he sees the dollar signs and steps into the ring,
he might uh, he might see his first loss. I
don't know, as he lost yet. I feel like he's
been doing this for a little bit now. He only
like four fights, I think, But I believed you when
whatever you said you was gonna do, I believe. You know.
The thing is I got I got the family, like

(03:58):
the boxing camp that would help me for pairing for that.
I think where those people get into trouble is that
they don't take it seriously. You see what I'm saying.
I've seen I've seen a little bit of Nate Robinson's camp,
and he kind of, you know, he he didn't look
like he was really prepared to go in there, you
know what I mean. So I don't want to put
it all on him. It's really it's really the camp's
job to get the fight already. So one thing that

(04:18):
I'm comfortable with is, you know, having again, you know,
the cousins of the family, having the boxing camp to
really prepare me for something like that, you know, outside
of what I'm you know, normally ready to do anyway.
But you know, he wouldn't understanding how long three minutes
is until you're three minutes trying to fight and stand
up in the ring. Yeah, it's a it's a really
tough it's a really tough sport. That's why they always

(04:40):
you know, they have that saying, you know, you play basketball,
you played football, you're gonna play boxing? Yeah you don't. Yeah,
some thing about when you were a personal trainer. To
flash back to that question that has to happen, right,

(05:00):
I was gonna ask how many women would hire you
just because they look good? Yeah, you know that's not
that's not for me to say because I don't really know.
I never asked them. But here's what I did notice.
I didn't notice that about probably like of my clients

(05:21):
were it was it was a female base. Um, but
that was but that was for me. But that was
also like even if I look at you know, I
was mentioned to my cousin who's a boxing name is Leon.
He owns a few gems out here. They're called glove Works. Um,
he actually owns one in uh in New York too.
But even even the client base at the gym is like,

(05:44):
uh female. So it's like, you know, it's interesting something
of a sport like boxing, how it attracts like the
ladies like that. You know that there I see the
ladies in there kicking ass and whatnot. But you know,
to get back to your your question, it's probably like
nine of the uh my client base was female though,
you know what I mean, knock a bitch out, so
that I used to do that thing for that purpose.
So I think women do that also because when I

(06:06):
did it, because I wanted to be able to defend
myself in case something happens, because you know, you walk
by yourself, somebody comes up on you, you gotta fight
somebody up. You want to at least know how you
are able to defend yourself. And I was way better
at me and J J. Mby did it together and
I was definitely way better than him. You know, I
got a lot of UM I have. I have lady friends,
and you know, say if we're um well pre COVID,

(06:29):
you know, back when we were all you know, if
we were out with something like that, or someone's going
to the car, you know, I would make sure they
get to their car, you know what I'm saying. Or
I would make sure they get out or in in
the venue properly. And you know, a lot of it
was just because of that, Like you know, I kind
of I kind of empathize and feel what Angelie was
talking about because you know, it's just it's just a
scary place out there. If you don't know how to
defend yourself, especially for um, you know, a woman like solo,

(06:53):
just you know, running around the world by itself. So
I I implore everybody to take a couple of lessons too,
because it's always nice to um. It's always a piece
of my know how to how to put them together.
You know. Angela convinced me to go to Rumble for
something with ye. But it was a midnight boxing class
and I was so tired because it was late. It
wasn't Yeah, it was nice, it was nice, but I

(07:14):
wanted to drink at the same time. I'm like, wait,
it's like two eggs doesn't go together. It seemed like
drinking time, not boxing time to me. But you're you're
dedicated for getting in there at twelve am. Ship, Thank you.
So are you an only child? I remember I read
that somewhere and you said you said you grew up

(07:36):
outside of Philly. I'm actually from Philly, So what specifically
I probably do? Yeah? So I was. I was born
in Abington. You know, I was raised in like really
Bucks County area, So I bounced around Bucks County, um, Duelstown, Warranton,
Worcester a pretty much pretty much Bucks County is definitely Um,

(07:59):
like the white area I had, you know. So it
was interesting. You know, I grew up um probably until
like middle school, it was all white, you know what
I mean. So I'm about I'm a biracial man, so
I was always growing up. I was always you know,
too black for the white kids, you know what I mean.
I remember I remember in second grade one of the
best friends, Peter Samuel's, and we were riding home on
the bus together. He said, uh, he said, hey, Tyler, Um,

(08:21):
do you know do you know what the nigger is?
And I said uh, And I was like yeah. I
was like you know again you know, growing up in
that white area, I was not prippy to this information yet,
see what I'm saying. I didn't know, you know again,
only child too. It's like I had a big brother,
big sister like school me to what was going on.
So I was like, um, you know, no, no, um,
and he was like, uh, well that's where you are.

(08:43):
And then you know, I got all the bus went
home and it was interesting. It was like he was
really he was really informing me. He wasn't trying to
be exactly, that's just how that area was, you know.
And then I and then I got older, and then
I um um, I went to I lived in Vegas
for a random year, but I moved out there in
like ninth grade. I went the Foothill and all of

(09:04):
a sudden, the whole school was black. And now all
of a sudden, I was. I was like, I was
a light I was a light skin, you know, white
for the black kids and too white for the black kids. Yeah.
So I was like, you know, I had an interesting, um,
I have an interesting like like perspective grown up in
that in that realm. You know, you get a black school,
they call me white boy, you like, with the hell

(09:26):
that's something that we can Unfortunately, all somem relate to
Angela's half Asian Glorios cam Puerto Rican. Both my parents
are mixed. Sod was white when she was younger. I
was the other truth I was at a point of time.
It wasn't when I was younger. It was in my
early twenties. I went through this phase where I really
connected with white people and I had a connection I had.

(09:49):
I had a serious connection with white people. And I
was music and I what was it was? It was
my surroundings. I was dancing at I was dancing at
the Lila's in Philly. Oh yeah, I was dancing at
the Lilas and when I saw down Tyler, you said,
you know where that? So you've been to? The Lilas
is like the premier gentlemen's club, and it's right next

(10:12):
to the US. It's like your old city, right yeah, Landing, Yes,
didn't you have to know every strip club to do
your role in pe Valty And know I'm joking you
did a lot of took it very serious. Yeah, he
took it serious, right. Yeah. Well I'm a method actress,
so you know I had to act. Are you good?

(10:36):
Are you good at throw my money in the strip club?
Because I feel like that's also something that like take
some you have appearance. I'm not good at it. Trying
to teach me. Yeah, I've been throwing the whole thing
and pumped up she making it. Speaking of pe Valley,
I am actually very close friends with Virgo and Simone
who played extra extra and also on Brazil Brazil. We

(11:00):
all worked at Magic City together. Um, and Virgo was
one of my really really really really really closest friends
in my entire life. Um. Yeah, we're actually uh currently
cast it on a reality show on WeTV together. So
she literally just left my house and she'll probably be
here before we end. So she comes in, I'll I'll
tell yeah. But they talked so how real how realists?

(11:23):
How realist? P Valley for your like when you watched
the show because I'm coming from me, Well, um, of course,
since I'm so close to them, and uh, Simone actually
she was the one who ended up being pregnant at
the end. You guys, she's the She was actually working
behind the scenes to help authenticate the script, so to say. Um,
as well as being an actress dancer, so um and

(11:46):
with it was four girls and total who were actually
really strippers in real life, so they were able to help,
you know, make sure that everything went the way it's
supposed to go. Um. I absolutely love everything about the show.
Y'all know that. Um, I was like O D obsessed
And it was wasn't just the fact that I'm a
former stripper and that my friends were acting on the show,
but it was really authentic. Um. A lot of people

(12:10):
were like, oh, that's not Atlanta strip clubs, but it
wasn't supposed to be. It was Mississippi, you know, So
like the slang and and and everything, and the words
and everything that they used in the way that they
went about things um to me it was perfect, Like
it was really really really good And now I left
the show. But G G O D S Like when
I tell you every time I go to the house,
if I go to the house right now, the valley
is on it, I'm like, you're watching this again? She

(12:34):
watched She must have watched it fifty times. The who
I probably did. I probably did no cat yeah and
watched this new Yeah. I said. It wasn't for utility
to be castid on that show because obviously when you
were first filming it, you never know how successful something's
gonna be. No, yeah, I think you know, first of all,
it's a blessing to be to have a job, you

(12:56):
know what I mean. We all know what it's like
to be to work in this entertainment industry. It's a
very fickle one. You know, sometimes you're hot, sometimes you're cold,
and it's like, you know, to have a steady job
is always a blessing. So it was. It was nice too.
It was nice to work. But I think, you know,
a show like this is probably something I would watch
even if I wasn't on it, you know what I mean.
It's really got, it's really got its thumb on the
post of our culture. So you know, I remember when

(13:16):
I got the call for it. I was, you know,
I was super excited because here I was being able
to work on something that was really it's it's very um,
it's very like deep difficult material, you know what I mean.
But those types of roles, that type of material is
what really you know, strengthens or or sharpens your tool
as an actor, right, you really get get to work
on your chops to call it. Um. So I was

(13:38):
really excited to do that. But it's also you know,
as exciting as it is, um, working on stuff like that,
it's like a daunting test, you know what I mean.
Like you just mentioned how you know authentic it is,
and that's uh, that's the really tip our hats to
the creator and the writer. Pury Hall. Now she's from Memphis, right, Um.
She's also she also went to Juilliard, so she's also
like a very um. She's also she's she's it's kind

(14:00):
of like academic with the way she she she um
you know, writes writes her art if you will, So
She'll be the first one to tell you if you're
doing it wrong. And if you and if you're not
getting it, you won't you won't be there, you know
what I mean. It was it was a very difficult.
I don't I mean everything is difficult when you go
in the audition room, but it was a very long
auditioning process, probably over a span of like five or

(14:20):
six months, maybe maybe going in the room six six,
seven times. You know what, I'm working on, working on
different things here and there, you know, um, and then
to and then to get that the dialect down, you
know what I mean. Um, because even before we went
on set and we had dialect coaches, you still have
to try to go into the audition room and and
and still try to hit that twain and come Yeah.

(14:44):
So coming from up top, you know, and from the northeast,
like I was not. I was not well versed with that,
you know what I mean. So it was it was
nice to go through the gauntlet and come out on
top because they're really like family. Now, you know, I'm
in the Valley universe now and then one and then
you have a lot of beautiful women around you, so
are they like do you have them coming at you

(15:05):
left and right, or because I know it happens in
real life. I see your comments and stuff like that,
and the women are going crazy over you. So is
that something that you dealt with on set, like where
they were getting hitting on you here and there extra
than anything. Yeah, listen, it was. I mean it was
definitely very hyesthetically pleasing, you know, bunch of absolutely a

(15:28):
bunch of a bunch of beautiful women, a bunch of
beautiful people, you know, black people doing their thing. But
but I will say that, you know, everyone on the
set was was kind of like kind of like myself.
I'm a very driven, focused, focused person, you see what
I'm saying. So it's like I've never really been like
a victim of the flesh like that. And I when
it comes to like getting your money and and and
like further in your dream. You see what I'm saying.

(15:49):
I take my legacy very seriously. So when it comes to,
you know, something frivolous like that, you know, I can
kind of let it, you know, run off my shoulder. Um,
and everyone around was pretty much like that. It wasn't
like it isn't anything crazy. Um, we were linking up
after like you know, like to have after work drinks though,
so we was all turned you know what I'm saying,
were turned down there, you know what I'm saying, smoking
big drinking. It's like everybody was mad fun down there. Um.

(16:12):
But in terms of like the extracurriculus stuff like the fraternization,
you know, everyone was really like like very professional, right.
You know, do you have to understop yourself if you
feel like there is a little bit of chemistry because
that does happen in real life? Do you ever have
to like kind of like put a block up and
to stop yourself? You know, how do you do that? Yeah?
What's you know? It's it's um, it's a it's a

(16:34):
great thing you touched on because this is something they
don't teach you in the acting class. Right, is walking
that line, you know, because on one side, you want
the chemistry to be real, right, because we're portraying real
life here, we're trying to capture those moments. It's almost
like capturing lightning in the bottle, you know what I mean.
You can't capture lightning in the bottle if you're scared
of going around the lightning, you know what I mean.
But you have to you have to know how to,

(16:56):
you know, again, compartmentalize some of that energy. It's like,
you know, you want to walk to the but you
don't want to go over it, you know what I mean.
So again, even teetering that line right there is something
that it's a skill set to be developed. So so
what is your type of woman? And are you single
right now? I'm not single right now? But I like them.
I like them pretty in the face, sticking away though,
you know. But I mean that's just that's that's what

(17:23):
I'm drawn to, you know. I will say that I've seen,
you know, I've seen a beautiful woman in every race, shape, color, size,
you know what I mean. So it's like I don't
think that, you know, I don't think beauty knows any boundaries,
you know. But what I'm drawn to, you know, is uh,
you know, definitely a little more currly. Did you forcating
of your songs on p Valley too? By the way,

(17:43):
It's awesome. It makes sense you've got some strip club songs. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, I appreciate that. So they're definitely gonna be
on season two. Yea, But sep with Uncle Clifford for
it to get shout out, shout out to my boy,
and shout out to my boy, and you can lead

(18:03):
the cool Judy. But now I ain't. I ain't sleep
while I'm clipping for that. You know, I'm I've always
wanted to be taken seriously with my heart, no matter
what it is. You see what I'm saying. You know,
I understand networking, and you know you can you can
get a favor here, and then I understand that. But
like I've always wanted to be taken seriously as an actor.
You know I also and I see the same. I

(18:23):
want the same respect as a musician too, And I
also understand people's babies, right, Sometimes when you do something
for the first time, I don't know if you remember
your first you know, your first hosting gig or you know,
I remember some of my first gigs. But like this
was people baby, you see what I'm saying. So she
so I just wanted to respect what she wanted to do.
She had a very specific way she wanted to craft

(18:44):
her soundtrack, so I didn't want to be like bombarding her.
I kind of wanted to, you know, garner my own
audience first. I want to drop my own stuff first.
So that. It's kind of it kind of it kind
of worked organically as opposed to you know, hey, I'm
just another rapper trying to put my stuff on even
though Diamond on the show. It's like, know, I wasn't
really known yet for my music, so I wanted to drop.
I wanted to drop more and create my own buzz

(19:04):
first so that you know, it was easy when I
did it. And you know, we've talked, We've talked lots
about you know, getting my music on the soundtrack, so
it's already it's a goal for season two. But I
kind of just wanted to work it that way, you know. Congratulations. Yeah,
people call you Diamond because I know sometimes you get
caught in your character and that's kind of a name
right there, Like yeah, for sure. For sure, it was

(19:27):
always Benny for a long time, like all of a sudden,
Yeah for sure. And it's interesting like that. I have
some friends that really get upset when when their their supporters,
um don't know their name, you know what I mean.
I try to tell them all the time. It's like
it's like sometimes when you got when you got a hit.
It happens with music all the time too. Sometimes you

(19:48):
won't know the rapper, but as soon as you hear
the song, it's like, oh, that's you, you know what
I mean. Sometimes they just know your work first and
it's a it's a blessing to have that. So it's like,
you know, someone called me Diamond. I look around answer
to the name, like what's up? Okay, that means you're
doing a good job. I think, like absolutely, character that's
all we see, right Mari higwach marity highway cates when
people call home ghosts. Yea, yeah, that hates that. And

(20:13):
then you know, not like being an urk. Well, of course,
who would be Diamond? The way that Diamond is on
the show, he's you know what I mean, he's the
best dude on the show. To me, that's like a compliment.
I appreciate that, you know. I remember I remember, you
know again, just to go back to like, you know,
my string and failures coming from the East Coast. Man,

(20:34):
I just remember, you know, trying to get any job,
and I remember trying to do something now you know
here I was. I was gonna do this this acting thing,
you know what I mean. People look at me like
I was crazy, you know. So so for real, It's like,
I just remember, I'm not too far removed from a
space where no one supported me, you know what I mean.
So when I have these people running up to me
here and there you want to picture or whatever you
call me whatever, it's like, you know, I see through

(20:56):
all of it for what it truly is, what your support.
You know. That's interesting because people will look at you
and be like, hip, are right, he's cute anyways. Right,
it doesn't matter because I'm sure all the time, like
growing up, you didn't have problems with women, and I'm
sure you've always been like have you always been a
popular person, because, like you said, you've had some losses.
But people probably like, he'll be okay, Yeah, you know,

(21:18):
I went through I went through phases, you know when
I was growing up. When I was growing up you know,
in Bucks County and I was I was like the
only black kid. It was definitely I was definitely made
to feel you know. It was it was definitely like
a like a negative like ugly aesthetic type of thing,
you know what I mean. So I was definitely like
growing up and it was like an ugly thing. I
was like the ugly duckling. But all of a sudden,

(21:39):
I hit like high school or even like a middle school,
and like people started getting sexually active all of a sudden,
and now and then it started changing, you know what
I'm saying. Then then I was kind of like, you know,
kind of like what the girls liked a little bit,
even though it was new for them. You know, they're
never like being like a black guy or something like that,
you know what I mean. Um. And then I started
playing sports, right like yeah, yeah, like that got you

(22:06):
to see how they changed. Even when I was running
for touchdowns and now, all of a sudden, I was
like the like the popular running back, so like it
was different. So I went through phases of it. Um,
so it is you know, it is what it is?
What age did you lose your yet? Fourteen? Okay, so
what's so it had to be to Yeah, so no,

(22:27):
this was actually when I was in This is actually
when I went to in Vegas and it was actually
um um, it was actually to a junior in high school.
So it was like it was like fourteen and like
fourteen and seventeen, which at which at the time, you know,
so I'm I'm thirty three now, so thirty thirty and
thirty three is not a big deal, but seventeen and

(22:47):
fourteen a criminal? Yeah, yeah, it is. What's their names
that we could send the police to go lock around,
no name, but it was, it was, it was. It
was very premeditated. We had we had kind of planned
it out the night before and it was actually at
school underneath the bleach, not the bleachers, but like the steps.

(23:12):
We had a portion. Um, we have a portion where
like some of the classes were over at the college,
so we wouldn't go walk across the street and like
if you if you think about underneath the stairwell, it's
kind of like that that space. Yeah, like we brought
the blankets and like you know what I'm saying that
we had planned it all out, you know what I mean,
she knew what she was doing, though it was it

(23:34):
was in between school. We had like a little dead
like a dead dead spire. It was at lunch, so
you clearly did after There wasn't the hot rag after that, right,
there was. There wasn't nothing proper after that, you know
what I'm saying for your sex directed and that yes

(23:57):
I did. So I brought brought the customs, She brought
the towels, and actually know she brought the condoms, she
knew what she was doing. I brought the towels, and uh,
you know we were prepared, we did. She knew what
she wanted. Did you know that you were a virgin? No?
Because I definitely, you know it definitely like that J.
Cole song forget like I was. I was definitely you know,

(24:19):
I'm spitting my game, and you know, because I didn't
want to come off like you know, lame, you know
what I mean. I wanted to I want to make
my girl feel good. And you know, um, I had
up a little bit. You think it was obvious. It
was obvious. It was obvious. Wait, so it was like
two seconds, like explain how second? Now? You know? I

(24:43):
just remember, Um, I remember I remember her. I remember
her getting getting on top, and she was like I
remember all of a sudden, she was gonna like take
control of it. You know what I'm saying. She she
she got on top, she started doing a thing, and
you know what I'm saying, it was a few minutes.
It was a few minutes. You I'm saying, my rhythm
is off. Though you probably was. You probably didn't even

(25:06):
have it in. It was probably in between her guys,
one of the best tell us your virgin story and
the services. We ate a lot of people that question,
and this is like this I probably should have a lie.
I'm keeping it two reel with y'all. Did you again?
Did you? So? Yeah, I did get a second chance.

(25:29):
It was much better the second time. But you guys
in the bed the second time, Yes, we were, Um,
we were in the house, so we weren't on the bed,
but we were like, you know, we're on the couch
floor area kind of bounced back before um, but then
it was then she was a little she was a
little promiscuous, so she was bouncing around after that. So
she kind of so she was no. I remember she

(25:52):
went to like she went to a upper classroom, so
she was junior. She started messing around with a senior. Now,
so it's like fourteen compared to eighteen. I didn't have
no shot. He had a car, and every day I
thought she was interesting. You know what's interesting though, once
I hit that TV she called me up. Yeah, hey,
big head. This is like, this is like ten years
later now, so we're both like big out of high school. Um,

(26:14):
you know, I graduated from college, but you know, It's interesting.
It's interesting how relationships always continue to redefine themselves, you
know again ten years later, be honest, No, no, I
did I honestly, honestly, Now she can't, she can't, no,

(26:34):
she can't do that right now, she's Uh. Guys have
been what they're doing. They're so vindictive. They'll try to
like make you fall in love with them to get
back for the hurt that you're calling them from years ago.
You know, you know, guys always and I ain't gonna
snitch on my guys, but I'll talk about myself, you know,
I always try to. You know, we try to play

(26:55):
off that that you know, that first puppy love like
it ain't nothing, because truly, in the grands scheme of things,
you know, it's it's really nothing. But you know, if
you if you take that moment for what it is,
you know, it kind of redefines the way you have
an outlook on life or even relationships. So it does
it does have an impact, you know, significant exactly, even
though we don't may not think about the individual, you

(27:17):
know that experience is significant. I just picture you in
the hallway against the locker, looking down while she's with
another guy, no beer, Yeah, no beard, no, Jerry Curl said,
j get the little one. You probably with scrawny. Oh yeah, yeah,
big scrawny back then. Yeah, for sure. I'm trying to
figure out how I'm trying to figure out how she

(27:39):
got your number ten years later, child, because I know
what the same that it was. Yeah, she hit me
on I think it was like Facebook. It was Facebook.
You already know. How How does she look? How does
she look now though, compared to high school? Not the same. Yeah,
we're just gonna say that you don't look the same.

(28:00):
But um, you know, but you know, uh, like life happens,
and like stresses real and circumstances happen, and you know,
people's outlook and perspectives change. So I just see her
differently now. She was like just calling to tell you
you got a ten year old son and you need
to take it. Did you did you practice putting on

(28:24):
a condom before the first time? You actually you know
what I did, But I didn't know. I didn't. I
kind of just, um, I don't even think i'd had
like seen one out of the wrapper. Um, And this
is crazy. I didn't even really thought about this experience
to this conversation. So I'm like, I'm kind of reliving
it right now. Um I was. I was definitely on
the fly with it for sure. Um, she definitely definitely, no, No,

(28:49):
she definitely helped. Yeah, she definitely helped me out. You
know what I'm saying. She was like, oh, the little version,
he doesn't even know how to put a condom on. Yeah,
but she made she made sure she put it on
and she jumped on though. So it got me right,
jump on that horse. You gotta riding, Yeah, she was riding.
She was doing thing. Is that your favorite position now
to the day, to have a girl on top? Because

(29:11):
that was like your first real experience. I like, how
how does it work for you? You know? I'm like,
I'm very much like a like like a dancer when
it comes to it. I like to communicate, you know, verbally,
but I'm also listening to so I'm I'm definitely you know,
I'm definitely hitting from the back for sure. But yeah,
I need I need to see that ass move, you
know what. Definitely. Um, you know, uh, you know, my

(29:35):
my my girls, my girls very pretty in the face now. Um,
so you know, I like, because there's times I gotta
flip back over. I gotta I gotta look at I
gotta look at the face like I you know, I
gotta use my mama tyler. Were there times that you
had women you didn't want to look at their face? Oh? Yeah,
for sure. Yeah I'll turn around, you know. So it's like,
you know, you gotta I forget what I was reading.

(29:56):
I think, you know, these memes pop across your time
time about all the time. And someone had said, like,
you know, would you prefer like a you know, a
six in the face and the turn in the body
or a real pretty face and like, you know, like
a bad build body. So I've definitely had that you know,
five in the face, you know what I'm saying, with
a nice booty and uh, you know, you just make
it do it to do you know, hit the lights,
turn the lights, turn turn it over something, turn around.

(30:26):
But I find, uh, you know, I find I find
lots of different characteristics about a woman sexy too. So
even if you don't got it all together in the face,
it's like, you know, there's there's lots of things about
a woman that that get me right, turn me on.
So you know you're you're smelling good, your head is
looking nice. You know what I'm saying. You're doing your thing.
It's uh, you know what I'm saying, we get faster.
Have you ever had a woman tricker? Have you ever

(30:47):
had a woman trick on you when you were younger?
Like what you mean by like what you mean? Trick
on me? Things? Trick on me? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
for sure. Um. Not not when I was like young, young,
but when I started getting um. I remember my girlfriend
in high school was checking on me a little bit.
But then you know what it was when I got
to l A. When I got to l A, um,

(31:09):
I like I was introduced to even before l A,
but like once I graduated in high school, I was
introduced to the cougars, you know what I mean. And
the Cougars were like, for sure tricking on me, you know,
not then coogers. But I remember, well, we don't have
to go into the specifics, but yeah, I've definitely had
you know what I'm saying, been a part of that,

(31:30):
And it's like you gotta be you gotta be careful though.
It's like when you received and I'm sure maybe your
ladies go through this too, or if you have or not,
I'm not sure, but like you know, when you're receiving gifts,
you know what I'm saying, without anything in return, you
know they're going to be expecting something. So I was
a part of a scenario where she was giving me stuff,
and all of a sudden she broke it to me
she wanted she wanted me to show up with her

(31:51):
at like her like ex husbands like whatever. And I
had realized that, Yeah, I had realized that her ex
husband was like, he was someone that was going to
try to protect his space, if you understand what I'm saying.
And so it was like she was using me like
a pam, you know what I'm saying, And I thank
thankfully I was smart enough to understand and said, hey,
you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this
anymore because you know, if you put me in that scenario,

(32:13):
I'm gonna be forced to defend myself. And now you've
got two men going crazy at each other, you know.
So it's like whether they're expecting that or whether it's
or you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, he's like
I gotta fight every night to prove my love. Yeah. Sure,
I wasn't knowing that. So I you know, one thing
that came to my attention. You had a video that circulated.

(32:34):
You had an interview where basically I think they asked
you about going fifty fifty on a date and your
response I really like, So I want to ask you
what if a woman did sit down with a man
and he was like, hey, um, here's my half. What
you're gonna do? What should she do? M hm? You
know it's gonna be different from from woman to a woman.

(32:56):
You know, It's it's like it's it's not one of
those answers where one size it's all, you know what
I mean? I think if the woman, if the woman
has in her head where let's let's say, for instance,
she was raised in a household where she was taught
that women aren't supposed to pay any bills, you know
what I mean, your daddy, Your daddy teaches you that,
you know, I'm always gonna take care of you, and
I take care of your mother, and you know, a

(33:17):
man that's dead and you should do the same. Right
and she's put in this scenario that you just presented
and the man says, hey, here's fifty, where's your fifty?
You know, if if she's about her morals and she
doesn't want to do that. She has every right to say,
you know, I'm gonna pass on this, know, but I
think that's funny to say, like I'm gonna pass on that. Yeah, yeah,

(33:40):
what if you did say, I'm enjoy love when it's
like on the flip side, you know, and and a
and a practice and a practical. Um. You know, if
we if we look on the other side of the
point and we say, um, you know we're gonna be
in this fifty fifty um, you know it's you know,
it's gonna be a true uh, both feed in the relationship.

(34:01):
We're gonna give and take. You know, we're just gonna
be a true fifty fifty relationship. And and and you're
okay with that. You know, you have every right to
go ahead and accept that. And you said, okay, baby,
here's my fifty and let's let's run it up like that.
But not on the first day. Not not on the
first date though it's not I think you ever asked
the person on a date is supposed to pay, Like
if I ask you, like, hey, this is I think

(34:24):
the guy is always supposed to pay? It depends. But
if you ask a guy out and you're like, hey,
I want to take you out, Like I mean, if
it's a birthday, yes, If you say I want to
take you out and here's and you set up everything,
then I do feel like you should at least offer
to pay because it was all your idea. I'm not
gonna be like, I'm gonna take you out, now pay
for me now. I was just gonna say, like I've

(34:45):
done that before where I'm like, okay, let's go out,
and then the guy would be like, you're not paying
this bill and we're like damn, they're trying to fight
me to snatch with just fine, which is fine, But
I do think you should offer. Now. If you're in
a relationship and you're like, let's go to the movie
is then it's just whatever whoever decides it. No, I
got it this time, it doesn't matter. But I feel
like on a first date, if you ask somebody on

(35:07):
a date, that's who pays, right, because it's your idea.
You're coming up with the whole plan. I'm asking you
to go somewhere. Imagine somebody asked you to do something
and then make you pay for it. Yeah, for sure,
I think I think if we're talking about you know,
a date, um, the first date, we're gonna be specific
with that. And again not not to go back to
an interview, but like you know, I'm just I'm just uh,
I'm just an old school person, you know what I mean.

(35:28):
And and I'm just I'm gonna take care of it.
That's just the type of way. That's type of person
I am. Um, And I think that I think that
it should be like that. You know, women and women man, y'all,
y'all give us a lot, you know what I mean,
And it's unfortunate that I feel like most people don't
give you the credit that you deserve. But like you know,
if if I were to give a woman a seed,
you know, she she turns it into Yeah, I like that.

(35:51):
You know, if I want to give a woman, you
know my you know, my offspring might see, she she
literally grows it into a into a human, to a child.
You know, if I buy the house, she's gonna date
it into a really elevate us. You see what I'm saying.
So you know, the least I can do is go
ahead and pick up you know, I'm saying, pick up
the food tab. It's really not a big deal. So, um,
you know I'm I uh, you know, I root for

(36:12):
you know, men like myself to keep shivalry allied. Everyone
always says, should where his dad? Sho where his dead?
That don't go out and be you know, get played
and just get trampled all over. But you know you
shouldn't be You shouldn't be afraid to try to provide,
to try to go ahead and pick that tab up.
It's really not a big deal. Now, I have to
be honest, I've never asked anyone in the date, so
I have to never had to be in this. Have

(36:33):
you guys ever asked anybody on a date? Lorial gig?
Have you ever asked a guy on a date? You
know my boyfriend like somebody that I was with, and
it's more so like let's go out first date. No,
I'm definitely, like I said, in a relationship, I definitely
really been like, let me go out today. And again
he still wouldn't let me pay. No matter what we ate,
he acts like he was gonna let me pay, and

(36:54):
then he like walked to the bathroom and paid, and
I was like like this, bet you know, what do
y'all fel what do y'all feel about the woman proposing
for marriage. I wouldn't do that either. Yeah, I mean,
I don't knock anyone. I don't knock anyone. I think
it's a new day and age, and sometimes they're stay
at home dad's now you know what I mean, and

(37:15):
the woman goes to work. So but me, personally, I
would want somebody to propose to me. I wouldn't want to.
I would feel like I'm not forcing, but I feel like,
what guys really gonna say? No, it's gonna make it no.
That's my question. You're in a relationship. If your woman
was to propose to you right now, would you accept
the proposal? How don't? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't

(37:39):
mean to laugh all out like that. It's just like
he is. Just yesterday my girlfriend proposed to me. But
you know, you're asking it back to me, makes it
real all of a sudden. So now I'm like putting
myself in it. Um, you know, there's two there's two scenarios,
just like so. So first of all, I don't I
don't know if marriage is for me. Me and my
girlfriend talked about the offense, so I don't know if

(38:00):
I'm I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna get
married in like period. Uh, but if I'm in this scenario,
I'm definitely gonna be the one getting on the name. Now,
if we are in a blue moon, you know, the
world turned on its head, and now my girl gets
on one knee and proposes. Uh then which I which
is one of my favorite beers. By the way, But

(38:20):
I think that if I think if we were alone, um,
in in whatever way, in whatever way I could that
came to me in the moment, I would try to
articulate that I want to be the one to propose
to you. So it's not like I'm saying no, but
allowing me to be the one that does this allow
me to do this the right way. UM, I think
it would be important if I was gonna say yes,
to articulate that I do want to get married. It's

(38:42):
not like I'm saying, you know no, but it's just
that I want to do this the right way, the
way that I see it going down. Um. And now
I don't think take that you know what it is.
I just I just feel I feel I just feel
we you're like, um, you know what I'm saying, I'm
married to check it out. You for that, and I'm like, yeah,

(39:03):
like that's just don't don't know, and the like I
was just preferred to be the other way around, that's
all anybody who does that and I mistaken. All your

(39:26):
parents have been together, they're still married, correct? Yeah, yes,
so my parents are still together. It's been Um, I've
been married for I was four when they got married. Um,
so it's my mother and my and my stepfather. I
only I don't call him that, call my dad. He
raised me. Yeah, he's had me even since I was
like three. You know, they were together for a while

(39:47):
and then they definitely your dad, yeah for sure, but
just for descriptive purposes, like you know, I'm just just
calling it out. So you know, my mom and my
dad been married for Um so I'm thirty three, so
twenty nine years now, W have a I have a
great and then if they still leave each other, you know,
little notes on you know, on the magnet on the fridge.
So I have a really great I have a really

(40:08):
great example of what it's supposed to look like. Yeah,
well there's some things that you do in your relationship. Um,
you know, you always got to making that effort. Yeah,
not for sure, I think, Um, you know, there are
certain things that um that are like you know planned.
I try to make sure that, you know, we have
date night often. You know, we don't just get caught
up to work because I work a lot and she
works a lot. Um, so it's easy. It's easy to

(40:30):
just get It's easy to have your date night be
a premier or something like that, or to have it
be like amongst a lot of other people going out
pop and bottles or something like that. We're having fun.
But it's like, you know, I try to always carve
out um, you know, intimate time for us. You know
what I'm saying. Um, you know, whether it's whether it's
something as simple as going to the movies or you know,
you know, picking out her favorite restaurant or you know
what I'm saying. Maybe maybe you know, written the boat

(40:52):
for a day or doing something on the water. But
there's also things, um, you know, things that happen in
the spur of the moment. You know, my my girl
is a uh, it's a very cerebral person. So there's
certain conversations that I always make sure that we have,
um that I feel like she's not having anywhere else
in life that she wants to touch on. Um. So she's, uh,
we're very much really call it like like sato sexuals

(41:13):
also right and like you get on by the mind. Right.
So there's there's there's all over the spectrum certain things
that I do you know that makes you I beat
it down, right, you hear me? You know I sent you.
He's like, I'm serious, sent Do you ever have tantric sex?
Tantric sex enlightening? Yeah, you don't know us about this.

(41:36):
We did have a clubhouse about it. Yeah, pantric sex.
That involves a lot of breathing and closeness without touching,
And it's when you feel each other's sexual energies without
actually touching each other, and it brings you to orgasm
if you do it right. Um. So our orgasms are
always like hands on, um, but our organs the stuff

(42:00):
from But you know, but I can't I can't say that. Um,
I can't say that, Like, you know, we take that
step very seriously though, you know what I'm saying, Like
that that part is not glossed over, it's not brushed over.
And I can say that, like you know, younger in
my life it was it was a space that was

(42:22):
brushed over, you know what I'm saying, Like even after um,
you know, even after my experience you know that I
told you about when I was fourteen, Like even even
like young twenties, it's like, you know, you're so worried
about getting in there, getting to action that like you know,
you're glossing over some of the most some of the
most important you know, intimate parts, you know what I mean.
He's really and I had to you know, I had
to learn that there's you know, just over my experience

(42:43):
in life. I had to learn there's a big difference
between like men and women. You know what I'm saying,
How we get there if you will, um, and like
and like for a man, you know, a man can
were very simple, you know what I'm saying. You were,
you were in the right dress, We're ready to go,
and it is there. Um and you know you know
y'all uh all the time. Yeah, And y'all have enlightened

(43:05):
me and you know, UM helped me understand that there's
a whole other side to it. Even even right now,
you guys are putting me on a game right now,
because I didn't know that it had a term for it.
What's it called? Again? And yeah, how did you and
your girlfriend? Did you approach her? Did she approach you?
She approached me? Um, she approached me. Yeah, she might

(43:29):
be playing it proposal now coming. I have to tell
her not to watch this and get any idea. She's
a very she's a very direct one she wants to be.
But um, she's she's she's not really she's not really

(43:52):
liked that. Um she approached me, I mean at least
not at least not from what I know, you know
what I mean. But this day she was and she
and she um, and it was thing like she came
and said, hey, listen, I want to funk. It wasn't
like that, but it was like, you know, she she
made her way over and made it a point to come,
you know, initiate the conversation, you know, and from there,
you know, I take it from there. But that initial,
you know, opening up the door was But how did

(44:16):
you move from the space stuff being like just talking
to being in a committed relationship. So we went through, uh,
a long period of time when we were friends. So
she approached me. We went on a couple of dates. Uh,
you know, we were intimate with each other. Um, and
developed a friendship that lasted for a long time because
we worked we worked in the same industry, so it

(44:38):
was like we were just always we were around each
other a lot, and and it just organically developed into
a place where you know, I was I was really
the one I keep it real. I was the one
that kind of just I have these epiphanies a lot
of time in life, A lot of times in life,
you know. I had one on the East Coast. I said,
you know what, Tayland, it's time to move. It's not
for me anymore. You know what I'm saying. I want
I want something different. Um. So I had another epiphany,

(44:58):
I said, Um, I kind of all of a sudden
started I don't know if it's good or bad, but uh,
I started thinking about like if I were to you know,
because she was she was easily accessible to me. I
could reach out and and have her if I wanted to.
And I think because of that, I was taking I
was taking her for granted. And I kind of had
this epiphany where I was like, man, I was like,
this is she's She's like someone that like I want

(45:21):
to be with, and I don't know what I would
do if I if I went away. You know, I work,
I work on you know, away often, so um, you know,
I'm I'm in Atlanta five months out of the year.
I got a new show on Amazon coming out where
I'm shooting in New York. Uh, five months out of
the year. So it's like, I would hate if I
came back and she's brewed up with somebody else, you
know what I'm saying. It would hit me different if

(45:41):
like I've seen her on someone else's arm. So it's
not like it was a territorial thing, like I just
don't want no one else to have you. I had
just realized that I want to have you, you know
what I'm saying, So I want to At this time,
I was direct and I said, you know, you know
I want to be with you. Let's be with each other,
you know, and in different words, but that was the message.
What about kids? You said, no marriage, But what about kids?

(46:01):
We have a child together? You yeah, girl, I have
a son. I have a son. So listen, do you
think that it's good to keep things private and that's
why your relationship lasts? Yeah? Yeah, And I think I

(46:23):
think you chose the correct word. People often talk about like,
you know, so why do you keep it a secret.
It's not saying it's like if it was a secret,
I would have just lied to you right there. Um,
But it's like, you know, it's I've found that you know,
working in a public space. You know what I do
for a living, and any ladies know, you know, well
what we're doing right now. This is work right now,

(46:44):
but this is going to be broadcasting to everyone, right
So we work in this public space. And when you
work in this public space, you know, you end up
having extracurriculars that are in the public space. And if
you look at the whole spectrum, you know, like your
your your life has lived out where people are watching you,
you know what I mean. So I've I've I've understood
for a long time and I've experienced this that having

(47:06):
having a space that's private is very beneficial and really
helps to be able to unplug, you know, for me,
especially as you know, especially as a black man, you know,
to go into the world. The last thing that I
want from being at war with the world every single
day is to come home for around two you see
them saying I like to have calm waters at home
and uh, and I think I think being private helps

(47:28):
that and uh, you know, I gotta my girlfriend understands that. Um.
And so it's just it's just a great fit. You've
had girlfriends in the past that didn't understand that, and
they want to They want everything to be public. They'll
understand why we can't publicize everything. And you won't see
my kids. You won't see my kids on my i G. Yeah, exactly,
And you won't see my kid on my i G
the same way you want to see like my parents
and my I G. I just want to keep um.

(47:48):
I've chosen to keep the my private life private and
and everything else. Like we can we can talk and
we can chat and I talked people for my i G.
And it's like we can we can do all that
over here in this space. You know. I feel that
and I respected. And that's what makes people come up
with like all their own stories that they create. You know,
I saw they were trying to say that you were gay,

(48:09):
and I was like, well, really, I didn't see that. Yeah,
I didn't see it, but it's like, you know, they
they you know, I remember when I first I remember
I first started out. I was seeing it here and
there UM for forward forwardever reason people were associating with UM,
Like my first show, I came out on the Tyler

(48:29):
Perry Show, and like, for for whatever reason, he gets
a wrap like that. And I know, Tyler person, he's
not gay, you know what I'm saying. But it's like,
you know, being I was, you know, I was seeing
around him and all of a sudden it was just
rubbing off on me and people thought like I was
gay or something like that. And then I remember, Um,
I had taken it. I don't know if I had
taken a I don't know, I don't know what it was,
but I done something. I was on the set of
Peas Valley and uh, maybe I was a Clifford. I

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was like maybe. I think I was taking a picture
of Alphands who plays a little murder and um, and
people started off with the gay thing again. I think,
like I think, if you have a space like you
were saying, Angel, if you have a space that people
can't figure out, they may just tackle whatever they can.
They can just create a judgment, you know what I mean.
I will say Perry. My thing about Tyler Perry, I
never think that he's gay. He just knows how to

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pick a fine man to cast in his shows, and
if he don't pick the most nice looking guys, like
an array of them, and I'd be like, where the
hell did he find them at? I want to hang
out with Tyler. Perry's tact all of it. He got
all of fine man. That's why people think that because
he has a good eye for looks as well. I
think maybe that's what I mean. And he plays media

(49:32):
so well. People can't get over the fact that he's
a woman so well. He does because I I think
media coming back, that's just had to pause up for
a little bit and then show come out. Then you're
gonna make a return, you know, as a Tyler, as

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a black man and as an actor playing the role
of a woman. Is that's something that you wouldn't do?
You know, because I've heard both sides like whatever the
road calls for, and then I've heard people say I
wouldn't do that. You know. It's interesting when you get
into these questions as an Actor's another thing they won't
teach you in an acting class. Having class is just
seen study. It's very like basic even though it's necessary. Um.

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This other side that we're touching on, right Now it's
something that only comes with experience. It only comes with
like making decisions. So when you get into this this
uh this realm or you're booking stuff, you you get
presented with these options, you know, do you wanna do
you want to play? And the question is always do
you want to play something that you aren't in real life? Right?
Some people have a problem with playing playing a woman.

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Some people have a problem with playing gay. Some people
have a problem with playing a rapist or playing you know,
an abuser or whatever it is, right, getting into these
circumstances that aren't normally yours. So when you're doing that again,
it's it goes back to like, what what is it
that you want to do? You know? So for me, like, uh,
you know, I love the roles that I've accepted, you know,

(50:56):
Benny Um, Diamond uh and my new show Ian. So
from me, if I was ever going to you have
to play it all the way. You see what I'm saying,
what I don't like, what I don't like When what
actors do is they'll sit here and they say, Okay,
you know what, I'm gonna accept this role because the
hell of a check and I'm gonna get famous, right,
because you know val Vallegna blow up. Let's let's take
Uncle Clifford, Let's take Little Murder or something like that. Right, Um,

(51:18):
let's go ahead and accept the role. We're gonna blow up,
We're gonna get all the accolades and stuff like that,
all these positive things. But then when you know, when
the flip side of it comes and you have the
trolls that come out of nowhere and people that are
judging you and saying crazy stuff, you may not want that.
So then when you're in the space of actually playing
the role, you're holding back a little bit, actually going
all the way there. So now you're doing a disservice

(51:40):
to the to the role and actually the whole universe,
like you know, the p Valley universe, if you will,
the whole storyline. Um so I do think whatever, if
you're going to accept the role, you have to go
all you have to go in like hats yeah, I
have I give my hats off to uh he you
know he's developed into my friend. Now his name is Alphons,
who plays a Little Murder. You know my hat off
on Yeah, because he's playing he's playing that role for

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real and he's a straight man with the kid. He
has a wife and a kid. You see what I'm saying.
So he's doing that all the way. He's a he's
a he's a veteran as an actor. He comes from
he comes from the theater, right, so he's checking all
the way in there, and he deserves all the accolades
that comes to UM. So just your to do your question.
You know, I'm I'm thankful for the roles that I've got.
I don't UM. I don't see myself playing a woman,

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but that's um. Just like it's okay to to play
a woman, It's it's okay. It's also okay to choose
not to. You know. The only thing is as as
an actor, you just have to make sure that you
truly understand what you're stepping into, and if you step
into it, you have to give a percent and cannot
You know. Will Smith talks about it often. In his
first role, I forget what it was that he played
a gay role. I think so, and he talks about

(52:50):
in hindsight he wishes he would have just did it
all the way because in the moment he's worried about
what his boys were gonna think, and all these outside circumstances,
and he actually didn't do it. They had to cut
around it to make it look real, and it kind
of takes the performance down a little bit. You know
what I'm saying, What about what about full frontsity? So

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I again I would do it. It would So if
I was gonna do full frontal, it has to be
on something like a P Valley, You see what I'm saying,
where it's done tastefully. You know, you'll you'll see it
there and you'll see the girls get you know, fully there.
There's full new to be on that show. But it's done.
It's done to support the story. It's not done out
of nowhere. Look at it. Tell what if they tell

(53:34):
you that we want you to be limp and then
everybody's gonna be like, oh my god, this Penis is
so small and you gotta ask him to be the
shower grower first he might be he might be a shower.
We need to do this Penis and I'm gonna shower.
I'm good. So you got it, don't worries P Valley

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the middle person de Alley. So that's interesting too, because
you know this was this was the first show that
um in this in this season. I was not new. Um,
we were getting into Diamond storyline and we weren't there yet.
You know, who knows, maybe second season when you go
home and you see or he's coming out the shower

(54:17):
or something like that, when you see him in his life,
you know, you actually never seen Diamond outside of the club.
You have not exact but you was about to get
it in with Mississippi in there. You didn't have to
get out of there right under those we'll go to
the breakroom. But I was said, we was ready to
fight her after I don't I don't want to pull
it just in case everybody didn't watch yet, but we

(54:40):
was ready to jump her as a unit, like because
you're like, girl, what are you doing right? How dare you?
I think that, UM, don't give it real to wrap
that up, because I wanted to touch it on, touch
on the real quick. So this is my first time,
she said, being a part of a show that had
so much nudity. So I had seen the nudity writers

(55:02):
and the nudity clauses and stuff like that. So there
are certain things that you can show on certain things
you can't show. So I didn't know if you guys
know this, if you ladies know this, but you're actually
not allowed to show a fully erect penis. Said that,
so you can't show it differ like that on TV TV.
So yeah, it's like so on TV you're actually only

(55:23):
gonna see limp vix. Yeah when there like when um,
what's his name Corbyn when he was in the in
the cloud and he was there naked and the cloud,
actually I heard it was a fake penis. Virgo told
me that that wasn't even his real penis. But it
wasn't hard. It wasn't look in his face. He's like,
you wouldn't know, but it wasn't. But but but if

(55:45):
you pay attention to when you watch it, it wasn't hard.
He was just laying there and it was just laying there.
So that I wonder why they would make that a role.
That's so weird like way because that's yeah, and like
same thing with you know, with the female anatomy, you're
not allowed to show the lips. You're not like there's
certain you can show up, but not like you know
what I'm saying, like, yeah, but you can't show like

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really in between the ladies can't wet Okay, you can't
really you can't really get all of it like that.
So there's certain rules. There's certain rules to the game.
But to get into you know, Mississippi. Now, one thing
that I can say about that because there was a
lot of reaction on that last scene where she pulled

(56:27):
the gun on Diamond. Um. There was a lot of it. Um.
So now real quick, before I get into it, what
do you think, like, what were you what were you
all so upset about? What do you think that the
audience was still in that more because she was still
defending him, you were defending her against him, and then
she came in there defending him and boud, I don't
you Like I get abuse and all that, I understand,

(56:50):
trust me, I'm more I overstand. But like we wanted
y'all to hook up, you know what I mean, And
we also wanted him to die. Guy you wanted with
it asked or we wanted her to kill him. And
then I think if he's a white boy too, like
it didn't help. Sorry, So I think and Angela, did

(57:13):
you see that? Did you see that thing? Yes? I did? Similar, Yeah,
I mean, of course I think as a woman, and
then we look at you like that's the you know,
that's the guy, go to him, and then you put
it and then you also put yourself in that position,
like what would you do? But then of course we
never know what we would do in real life, but

(57:34):
from watching it, and I always think it's from the
outside and you're watching something. And that's what makes these
characters more complex, because anybody could watch something and say,
if that was me, this is what I would do.
But the anti school, so let us know with tea. Okay,
so here's my thing on it. So I have to
give again. I gotta just give a hat my hats
off and a shout out to the Tory Hall because

(57:54):
you know, as a writer, she's very specific and she's
the one that really made this thing go, you know,
getting got a hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes. You know,
she's the one that really drives this thing. So she's
the one who wrote that scene, right. So it's so
easy to give the audience what they want that, you know,
and here comes down, here comes diamond the night and shining.

(58:16):
You're gonna save the day, you know, But if you
look at you know, that would be just doing what
the audience wants. That's not actually staying true to the story. Yeah,
and like if you look at if you look at
you know, the human condition. It's like if you if
you look at unfortunately a lot of these people, you know,
a lot of times it's it's females. But even then

(58:36):
a lot of times these abused go back to the
abuser like for whatever reason. It's crazy. It's like it's
like something you know, something psychic exactly. So for her
to keep it real in that moment, even though everyone
wanted the opposite, it's like, man, my hat's off to
her as a storyteller, because I know lots of storytellers

(58:56):
that would have just given the audience what they wanted
to a couple for a couple of ratings. You see
what I'm saying. Because then think of the reaction that
you had it so much stronger, because yeah, because if
y'all they just would have been like, oh yeah, we
wouldn't be talking about that right now. Probably would have
just been another love scene. But like you said about
all of us, how many times we've defended our man

(59:18):
that was cheating us, like from everybody else. And the
more people go ask somebody, the more defensive you become
of that person. Even when they don't. But being from
the outside, if I was Mississippi, we would have shot
that white man buried him and then when they had
sex and sun like, let's go. I'm here, definitely need

(59:45):
to be on there. What you don't know about me
is I created the Last Dance ten years ago at
Magic City. I retired and we named my retirement party
the Last Dance Magic and and it and it became
a thing. So after that, every time a dancer um

(01:00:07):
left the club, she had a last dance. Yeah, Bibergo
and Simone was the trinity. You see how you guys
had the trinity. So in Magic City we were called
the snack Tack and we were their very first feature
performance crew, Like we started that whole feature performance group
performance thing in strip clubs. And again, uh Contori even said,

(01:00:31):
and one of her press junkets that you know she
created that night at the club to kind of mimic
that Sunday night that Uh Mercedes had. She created that
the kind of mimic times at Magic City where and
she actually said, my name, Gigi McGuire would pack out
the club right now that I learned something from you

(01:00:55):
that I remember my first time going to Magic City
and I walked in and Gig was in there where
and she just jumped off whatever she was doing and
came to get me on and I was at my
friends and I was like, I was like, this is
my first time in Magic City. And then I walked
into DJ was like angels there and then runs over
there like girl, you shut this your first lives there

(01:01:19):
right Still, we gotta have you ever thought about you
ever thought about coming coming onto the set? I would
love to. Yeah, on season two see til we're gonna film.
We're gonna film it this summer, so hopefully, you know,
the pandemic should be uh, if not all the way gone,
like you know, much more subsided to like it's pandemic
in Atlanta. We're open that should don't skip the Atlanta.

(01:01:44):
But listen, this is really Funantila. We do appreciate you.
You were really amazing. I didn't know what to expect
when we did this interview, but we actually had a
really great time with you. So we appreciate you being so.
I knew he was fun because he was break dancing
at Karen Civils. We have we have fun though, we
have fun, so much fun. Care and so it was

(01:02:05):
the birthday party. It was a great Yes, so so much.
I've been support to you and we can't wait for
the next season. We can't wait for the Amazon what's
this series coming on Amazon Prime? So it's called it's
called Harlem, and it's brought to you. Tracy Oliver is
creating it and making goods on it. Uh, great, great,
great viruses on it, and um, you know a few

(01:02:27):
other phenomenal ladies and myself and uh, we're so we're
gonna resume production, um in three weeks. So we were
doing it, but we've been we've been on hiatus with
the pandemic for like nine months now. Yeah, so we
just figured out a way to get back on there.
So we're gonna we're gonna resume. You are living a life.
It's always a bunch of phenomenal women in yourself, you
know life. But man, before before we before we bounced,

(01:02:54):
real quick, I just wanted to say, you know, I've been, uh,
you know, I've been I've been following you for a
long time. Um, you know, and I had had a
chance to, um, you know, obviously, get get on get
on with you here and um and and I'm sorry
real quick it's we've been we've been friends since Karen's party,
but I didn't want to butcher your name. Yeah, I
think everybody messes up my name. It's just you know,

(01:03:20):
it's it's been extended to Loria and also Gi and
you know, to have you ladies. You know what I'm saying, uh,
you know, repping the way you are and continuing to
follow your dreams. It's a man, it's inspiring. So again,
keep keep doing what you're doing because I'm a fan
of all three of you, and thank you for opening
up your platform to allow me to come and just
you know what I'm saying, talk to my ship and
just just be with y'all for this morning. Well, I

(01:03:42):
guess after over there, love ya, we love you, and
thank you for waking up early. Yeah, we love you something.
Thank you, thank you. I hope you doing a person,
So absolutely we'll bring some blue moon with the oranges.

(01:04:03):
With the oranges, I got you