March 25, 2025 • 10 mins
Maybe one day people will adhere to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream of one being judged on the content of character – programs like Safe Places are diametrically opposed to that dream and should not be a part of public policy.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You have questions, Brian has answers. It's time for today's
Q and A of today.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the Brian Mud Show and Today's Q and
A pbso's.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Safe Place initiative.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is brought to you by I Well Listen, Ashes
check Mark collections. Each day I feature a listener question
sent by one of these methods. You may email me
Brian Mud at iHeartMedia dot com, hand me up on
social at Brian Mud Radio. You may also use the
iHeartRadio talk back feature. Just go to wj no No or
(00:40):
Vero Patriot inside of the iHeartRadio app. When you get there,
a couple of cool things you can make happen, starting
with making us your number one preset that is great,
and then also making the Brian Mudshow podcast my podcast
your number two preset awesome, a double wartscore kind of
(01:01):
material right there. And while you've got all that going on,
you may look for a little microphone button and when
you see it, you tap it. You may lay down
a message right there, perhaps a topic or question for
a future Q and A. Today's note was sent to
me with a link to pbso's new Safe Place initiative
(01:23):
with the comment Rainbow Sheriff.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's the look at your face, Joel. Just do you
feel like you're in a safe place right now? I mean,
there's no rainbow badges here, but I'm good. We'll sneak
peek into your story there. So yes.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Last week, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office became the
latest law enforcement agency to certify under what's known as
the Safe Place Program. As PbSO notes, the Safe Place
Program began with police department in twenty fifteen, originally born
out of the need to address low reporting of anti
(02:07):
LGBTQ crimes. In twenty eighteen, it was expanded to include
all hate crimes. Currently, there are over three hundred and
sixty agencies throughout the world licensed in the Safe Place Program.
The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office is the three hundred
and sixty first agency. The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office
Safe Place Initiative is a partnership between this agency and
(02:31):
the business community to help respond to hate crimes. Safe
Place gives people who have experienced a crime of bias
or hate a safe place to go after their incident,
where they can be assured that the business will shelter
them while they call for help. Under this program, businesses
(02:51):
have the opportunity to visibly display an easily identifiable safe
place decal, assuring any victim of a hate crime that
the location is a safe space for someone to seek
a shelter as the Sheriff's office is contacted. Okay, So
(03:13):
one needs no further than the first sentence to find
a reason to be skeptical of what's now being implemented
within Palm Beach County. Any program born out of Seattle's
police department, which happened to be the home of the
original Welcoming City declaration for illegal immigrants, among other things,
doesn't exactly inspire confidence as a best practice for other
(03:37):
law enforcement agencies, especially for the Sheriff's office in President
Trump's home county. That's what exactly is going on here?
And how did this come about? Well, let's start with
where it started in Seattle. According to the founders in
a couple of the points here were mentioned by PbSO
and rolling this thing out. But the Safe Place, they say,
(04:01):
was established out of the need to address low reporting
of anti LGBTQ crimes and school bullying incidents by increasing
public trust and law enforcement and feelings of safety in
the community. The program was expanded in twenty eighteen to
include anyone who may have been a victim of bias
(04:22):
crime okay SO. The founder of the program was seattlepd's
first LGBTQ liaison. Notably, PbSO already had LGBTQ liaisons in
place preceding acceptance into this program. The liaisons have three
(04:43):
different divisions within the county, South, North, and West, each
with its own non emergency line. The PbSO Liaison program
is run in conjunction with the Compass Community Center. As
noted by PbSO, the LGBTQ Liaison off Officer strengthens the
relationship between the LGBTQ community and the Balm Beach County
(05:06):
Sheriff's Office by creating mutual trust and confidence through community involvement,
departmental education, and by ensuring fair and professional policing services.
Our Liaison deputies are able to work with community members,
business owners, and visitors in the following areas, work as
(05:28):
a single point of contact between the Sheriff's Office and
the LGBTQ community. Work with all units of the Sheriff's
Office that request assistance in identifying with LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Citizens and addressing their concerns.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Assist and advise as needed with the Sheriff's office leadership
on cases involving the LGBTQ community or LGBTQ issues. Provide
a forum for the LGBTQ community to express concerns regarding
crimes directed against the LGBTQ community. Meet with and provide
(06:09):
a forum for business owners, community groups, and members of
the LGBTQ community and present information on relevant law enforcement issues.
Collaborate with community leaders, businesses, and residents to design and
implement public safety projects and programs to increase and improve
(06:29):
the safety of Say with me, you can stay with me,
joel the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well we're missing some letters, but okay, see you don't
think it goes far enough? All right?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And last, banoalies facilitate an overall open relationships interesting choice
of words, open relationship between the LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Community and the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now, one might wonder why it is that a homosexuals
and or those who identify with something within the homosexual
alphabet need to be super served within any law enforcement agency.
Activists point to an ACLU study purporting to show homosexuals
(07:15):
as more likely to be mistreated by police in Paul
Beach County. This came about due to the Sheriff's office
decision to apply for a grant from the Biden Justice
Department last year, which was granted for one hundred and
seventy five thousand dollars for the implementation of this program
in PbSO. Participating businesses or safe places can request a
(07:38):
rainbow color decal and the shape of a police badge.
So that's how you know it's a safe place, the
rainbow color decal in the shape of a police badge. Now,
with the facts established and got a couple of points here. First,
I am a big advocate of community policing, meaning that
having established relationships between law enforce horsement and the communities
(08:01):
they serve, that's a good thing from a point of altruism.
That is what is argued here that this type of
program aids in relationship building and community policing. On the
other hand, there's a great deal that's inappropriate. First, having
a segregated police program to super serve people in the
(08:23):
community fails to meet the objective of equal treatment under
the law. Second, and this goes for businesses that might
be pressured into dotting the rainbow badge. Segregation based on
differences only creates what, oh, that's right, further divisions in society.
The best way to bridge divides within a community is
(08:45):
to stop segregating the treatment of people on the basis
of differences. Third DEI programs have proven to be an
abject failure. That the state of Florida has bandoned most
into instances, and that society at large has moved away
from PbSO moving in this direction at this moment in
(09:06):
time would appear to be at best tone deaf. Now,
maybe one people, one day people are going to adhere
to doctor King's dream. This is what I've always said,
whether we're talking about race or the homosexual alphabet stuff
or whatever else. Maybe one day people adhere to to
doctor King's dream, where we focus on the content of character,
(09:30):
content of character rather than one sexual identity, sexuality, period, race, whatever.
Programs like safe places are diametrically opposed to Doctor King's
dream and should not be part of public policy. If
(09:51):
there are law enforcement officers who don't treat homosexuals, properly,
fire them and hire people who will treat people equally
under the law.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's the appropriate answer here.
You have questions, Brian has answers. It's time for today's
Q and A of today.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the Brian Mud Show and Today's Q and
A pbso's.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Safe Place initiative.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is brought to you by I Well Listen, Ashes
check Mark collections. Each day I feature a listener question
sent by one of these methods. You may email me
Brian Mud at iHeartMedia dot com, hand me up on
social at Brian Mud Radio. You may also use the
iHeartRadio talk back feature. Just go to wj no No or
(00:40):
Vero Patriot inside of the iHeartRadio app. When you get there,
a couple of cool things you can make happen, starting
with making us your number one preset that is great,
and then also making the Brian Mudshow podcast my podcast
your number two preset awesome, a double wartscore kind of
(01:01):
material right there. And while you've got all that going on,
you may look for a little microphone button and when
you see it, you tap it. You may lay down
a message right there, perhaps a topic or question for
a future Q and A. Today's note was sent to
me with a link to pbso's new Safe Place initiative
(01:23):
with the comment Rainbow Sheriff.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's the look at your face, Joel. Just do you
feel like you're in a safe place right now? I mean,
there's no rainbow badges here, but I'm good. We'll sneak
peek into your story there. So yes.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Last week, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office became the
latest law enforcement agency to certify under what's known as
the Safe Place Program. As PbSO notes, the Safe Place
Program began with police department in twenty fifteen, originally born
out of the need to address low reporting of anti
(02:07):
LGBTQ crimes. In twenty eighteen, it was expanded to include
all hate crimes. Currently, there are over three hundred and
sixty agencies throughout the world licensed in the Safe Place Program.
The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office is the three hundred
and sixty first agency. The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office
Safe Place Initiative is a partnership between this agency and
(02:31):
the business community to help respond to hate crimes. Safe
Place gives people who have experienced a crime of bias
or hate a safe place to go after their incident,
where they can be assured that the business will shelter
them while they call for help. Under this program, businesses
(02:51):
have the opportunity to visibly display an easily identifiable safe
place decal, assuring any victim of a hate crime that
the location is a safe space for someone to seek
a shelter as the Sheriff's office is contacted. Okay, So
(03:13):
one needs no further than the first sentence to find
a reason to be skeptical of what's now being implemented
within Palm Beach County. Any program born out of Seattle's
police department, which happened to be the home of the
original Welcoming City declaration for illegal immigrants, among other things,
doesn't exactly inspire confidence as a best practice for other
(03:37):
law enforcement agencies, especially for the Sheriff's office in President
Trump's home county. That's what exactly is going on here?
And how did this come about? Well, let's start with
where it started in Seattle. According to the founders in
a couple of the points here were mentioned by PbSO
and rolling this thing out. But the Safe Place, they say,
(04:01):
was established out of the need to address low reporting
of anti LGBTQ crimes and school bullying incidents by increasing
public trust and law enforcement and feelings of safety in
the community. The program was expanded in twenty eighteen to
include anyone who may have been a victim of bias
(04:22):
crime okay SO. The founder of the program was seattlepd's
first LGBTQ liaison. Notably, PbSO already had LGBTQ liaisons in
place preceding acceptance into this program. The liaisons have three
(04:43):
different divisions within the county, South, North, and West, each
with its own non emergency line. The PbSO Liaison program
is run in conjunction with the Compass Community Center. As
noted by PbSO, the LGBTQ Liaison off Officer strengthens the
relationship between the LGBTQ community and the Balm Beach County
(05:06):
Sheriff's Office by creating mutual trust and confidence through community involvement,
departmental education, and by ensuring fair and professional policing services.
Our Liaison deputies are able to work with community members,
business owners, and visitors in the following areas, work as
(05:28):
a single point of contact between the Sheriff's Office and
the LGBTQ community. Work with all units of the Sheriff's
Office that request assistance in identifying with LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Citizens and addressing their concerns.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Assist and advise as needed with the Sheriff's office leadership
on cases involving the LGBTQ community or LGBTQ issues. Provide
a forum for the LGBTQ community to express concerns regarding
crimes directed against the LGBTQ community. Meet with and provide
(06:09):
a forum for business owners, community groups, and members of
the LGBTQ community and present information on relevant law enforcement issues.
Collaborate with community leaders, businesses, and residents to design and
implement public safety projects and programs to increase and improve
(06:29):
the safety of Say with me, you can stay with me,
joel the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well we're missing some letters, but okay, see you don't
think it goes far enough? All right?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And last, banoalies facilitate an overall open relationships interesting choice
of words, open relationship between the LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Community and the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now, one might wonder why it is that a homosexuals
and or those who identify with something within the homosexual
alphabet need to be super served within any law enforcement agency.
Activists point to an ACLU study purporting to show homosexuals
(07:15):
as more likely to be mistreated by police in Paul
Beach County. This came about due to the Sheriff's office
decision to apply for a grant from the Biden Justice
Department last year, which was granted for one hundred and
seventy five thousand dollars for the implementation of this program
in PbSO. Participating businesses or safe places can request a
(07:38):
rainbow color decal and the shape of a police badge.
So that's how you know it's a safe place, the
rainbow color decal in the shape of a police badge. Now,
with the facts established and got a couple of points here. First,
I am a big advocate of community policing, meaning that
having established relationships between law enforce horsement and the communities
(08:01):
they serve, that's a good thing from a point of altruism.
That is what is argued here that this type of
program aids in relationship building and community policing. On the
other hand, there's a great deal that's inappropriate. First, having
a segregated police program to super serve people in the
(08:23):
community fails to meet the objective of equal treatment under
the law. Second, and this goes for businesses that might
be pressured into dotting the rainbow badge. Segregation based on
differences only creates what, oh, that's right, further divisions in society.
The best way to bridge divides within a community is
(08:45):
to stop segregating the treatment of people on the basis
of differences. Third DEI programs have proven to be an
abject failure. That the state of Florida has bandoned most
into instances, and that society at large has moved away
from PbSO moving in this direction at this moment in
(09:06):
time would appear to be at best tone deaf. Now,
maybe one people, one day people are going to adhere
to doctor King's dream. This is what I've always said,
whether we're talking about race or the homosexual alphabet stuff
or whatever else. Maybe one day people adhere to to
doctor King's dream, where we focus on the content of character,
(09:30):
content of character rather than one sexual identity, sexuality, period, race, whatever.
Programs like safe places are diametrically opposed to Doctor King's
dream and should not be part of public policy. If
(09:51):
there are law enforcement officers who don't treat homosexuals, properly,
fire them and hire people who will treat people equally
under the law.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's the appropriate answer here.
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