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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now joining us in the studio this morning is the
Assistant Commissioner for the Northern Territory Police, Michael White. Good
morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Now, Assistant Commissioner. Obviously you oversee domestic, family and sexual
violence and that is indeed what we're keen to talk
to you about in terms of some of that budget
funding which has been announced. But I do want to
ask you this morning if there is an update on
this terrible crash that occurred earlier. A woman's died and
three other people have been injured as I understand it,
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in this two vehicle crash in Palmerston, Is there much
further detail at this point.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Look, as you pointed out in the news this morning, yes,
it was an accident. About five am this morning, police
received a notification of a head on crash on Kirkland
Road and as a result of that, police attended and
all the other emergency services discovered a woman who was
trapped in the vehicle and a second person trapped in
the other vehicle.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So during the process.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Of extraction, the feet passed away. All attempts to revive
her failed unfortunately, and so we're continuing to investigate. The
scene still open and the road is closed in both directions,
so we'll give further notice when the road is reopened,
but it'll be a bit a bit longer yet.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, right, does sound like there needs to be a
full and thorough investigation. So at this point in time,
Assistant Commissioner, the vehicle neither of those vehicles are believed
to be stolen, are they?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
No, No, there's no indication.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
To that, do we know. I mean, the woman who
was in a car with others, with two other people,
as I understand it, that wasn't like it wasn't a family.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
No, we don't believe so. No, they'd obviously known to
each other, but at this stage we're not sure the
relationship fully between them and the other occupant was by
himself in the other.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Car, and so from what the police are going, you know,
like obviously a full and thorough investigation at this point
in time. But no, you know, no, no further up
dates in terms of you know, exactly what's gone wrong
here or how that crash has occurred.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's early stages yet, but we certainly we had at
least one eyewitness to the crash who's come forward. We're
obviously asking for anyone who may have seen either vehicle
either before or during the crash to come forward and
notify police. And of course we're always looking at whether
what the causational factors were and whether it was one
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of the fatal five that we're obviously and being Road
Safety Week this week. We're obviously very mindful that it's
port bad and bad timing. Yeah, but certainly from the
families perspective of everyone involved, we certainly provide our condolences
to the families.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, And of course if you are able to assist
the police in any way if you did happen to
witness that incident, One three to one triple four is
the number to call through on Assistant Commissioner I did.
I was keen to talk to you this morning about
the fact that the government haven't out that they're going
to be providing a record ongoing funding of thirty six
(03:04):
million dollars a year when it comes to addressing domestic,
family and sexual violence now it includes six point five
million dollars for the Circuit Breaker program and six point
two six million dollars for the Corresponder Early Intervention program
with Northern Territory Police. Now you obviously oversee domestic, family
and sexual violence within the Northern Territory Police Force. How
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is this increase going to help from a policing perspective.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, certainly, happy to talk about it. Obviously, my portfolio
has both domestic violence and youth in it. There's a
key causal factor between the impacts of domestic violence on
youth crime, and it's really important that we continue to
focus on ways how we can by working to reduce
the amount of domestic violences in the future, going to
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have an impact on reducing reduction of youth crime. So
that's something that obviously the circuit Breaker is focused on,
is about preventing young people from I suppose getting on
the circuit of criminal offending and going around in the
merry go around and continuent offend, go into custody, come out.
So the circuit breaker is really focused on earlier intervention,
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using all support services available for DCF and others to
intervene and provide that support to not only the young
person but the families as well. To help with that,
things like the parental or family Responsibility Agreements will be
coming in under the new amended legislation, which will provide
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more support to a family to be able to help
manage the young person.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So six point two six million dollars for sorry, six
point five five million dollars for that circuit Breaker program
and also for the Corresponder Early Intervention with Northern Territory Police.
In terms of those programs, is this new funding or
is it sort of all going and what kind of
difference will it make to those programs that are current
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like that are being delivered.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, So the circuit Broker program was funded in different
forms previously, and it was previously called.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Cut remember it was called it was a different.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Name, but it certainly it was identified that this is
probably a better way to operate. The Corresponding model is
originally was funded for twelve months in Alice Springs. It
was a one off pilot program.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh yes, I remember now when that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Was introduced, created under Action Plan too, it was it's
been in place since May last year. We are working
with so the basis of it is that we work
with police officers, work with victim focused specialist v specialists
and also mean's behavior change or behavior change program people
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to identify and intervene earlier in the domestic family violence
cycle and provide that extra support that we can get
victims of domestic violence into support earlier. They'll be able
to seek help and provide linkage to other services, whether
it's a housing issue, counseling on other supports, financial support,
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all those sorts of things at the same time. Then
the behavior change program people are able to access and
work with the perpetrator of the violence to help educate
and provide support to them, so it reduces the likelihood
of them reoffending.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And so in terms of how these programs have been
working from your perspective overseeing domestic violence and youth within
the Northern Territory Police, do you think that they've like,
have they been successful or are they working in a
positive way from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, look at early days from a delivery, but we
obviously taken a bit of time to set it up
and get the ball rolling for Alice Springs as part
of the cranial process for the homicide of the four
Aboriginal women that was held by the Coronine twenty three
and twenty four. This has come out of that that
the corresponding model is really something we need to aim for.
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So the funding is expanding the corresponding model. It's securing
the funding for the Alice Springs pilot, but it's also
rolling it out into Tenant Creek, Catherine and Darwin and
one remote location which we haven't at this stage identified
which one will go into it. Because it's dependent on
both the workload and also the ability for housing and
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all those things for the workers who would be doing that.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
How quickly do you anticipate it will roll out in
those different areas where it hasn't currently been operating.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Look, we've been doing some work planning that, particularly for Darwin.
So the funding for the next find Out two year
will be for police, Aboriginal liaison offices and an intelligence
support officer for that's the funding for police in each location,
but for Darwin we recognize because of the volume of
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the population that the following year's planned that that will
be slightly expanded.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So all up in two years time we'll have fourteen.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Extra police across the locations, fourteen Aboriginal liaison offices employed
to work specifically in this space, and seven I think
it is six or seven intelligence officers that will support
that team across both government and non government who we
work with in partnership and.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
When you look at I mean you've spoken about this
a moment ago, when you look at the fact that
we you know, we do seem to have a high
volume of youth offending that you know, that's no secret
to anybody who lives in the Northern Territory. But then
you touched on, you know, the other factors at play
here where some kids are growing up in homes where
there is that level of domestic violence. How important is
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the work to sort of try to get in there
early to try and help young people from a really
early stage before they are on a path hopefully of offending.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's vitally important. Early intervention is really the key, and
some of the key issues around it is the housing
security and the overcrowding. And often, unfortunately, when a DV
incident happens, the victim and the children are the ones
that have to move and it leaves the perpetrator potentially
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in the house or there's overcrowding certainly in some circumstances,
but also education young people not going to school is
often caused because of the disruption and disharmony in the
household and the disturbance that sees them not go to school.
And really education is the key to change in this space.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Now, before I let you go this morning, there has
been a lot of incidents in Nightcliffe. Now I know
again obviously you know the majority of work that you
do is in the domestic, family and youth space. But
just on these situations in Nightcliffe, there's actually, you know,
following on from the alleged murder of Linford Fike at
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his grocery store, there's also two teens allegedly assaulting a
service station work or service station worker, then targeting residents
at a nearby house, punching and kicking them with a
metal bar. In a separate incident, we had a teenage
boy allegedly terrorizing people while armed with a metal bar,
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including women and children in a vehicle. A woman found
then seriously injured on a bike path in Rapid Creek
believed to have been assaulted by multiple women allegedly well allegedly,
there was also sorry I've just included, I've just sort
of merged to incidents there. There was a woman seriously
assaulted on a bike path. But then there was also
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a situation where women were indecently assaulted while exercising along
the Nightcliff foreshore by a youth under fifteen who was
in one instance naked. It sounds like there's been an
escalation of crime in the community, particularly in Nightcliff. I mean,
what do you think is going on in that area
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at the mimats.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Look, yeah, we certainly recognize that Nightcliff and the Rappa
Creek Foreshore area is problematic for social order issues, the
businesses that work in that space. Obviously, the tragic death
obviously impacted on everybody and look at there was Certainly
police have done a significant amount of work in relation
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investigating the matters that have been reported. Obviously, the fact
that they've happened in the first place is the issue
for me. So we're certainly focusing much more on the
Nightcliff Foreshore area and surrounds to make sure we're engaging
with people using Larachia Nation Night Patrol and the other
patrollers as part of the network that the Territory Safety
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Division work with, to make sure that we're providing that
engagement to help provide support to the people. Obviously maybe
sleeping rough in that area or obviously there's a fair
concentration of public housing in that space as well, and
we do get lots of visitors in town, and certainly
in the instance of one of those matters, that person
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was only from another location for a few days, offended
and then went back home. So that person has been
dealt with. But there's certainly the work that's been done
to apprehend these people and put them before the courts
is certainly good work. But it's happened in the first place.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
For me, yeah, that's exactly right, and we do not
want to see those kinds of incidents happening. One of
the ones, Michael, that really frightened a lot of people,
I think is those women being indecently assaulted while they're
exercising on the Nightcliff foreshore. One listener got in contact
with us earlier in the week. Leah gill And said,
it's beyond belief that the public were not warned that
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a sexual predator was active in the Nightcliff area for
at least or about two weeks. Why would the public
not warned and women not made aware? I mean, I
think it's a really fair point. Why did that happen?
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, Look, certainly we've had a look at that so
that the circumstances that person's arrest he was apprehended for
a number of matters that weren't involved in this behavior
or types of behavior. He was arrested for some assaults
that are happened in Teewee and then tried and had
carriage of that, and when they backtracked and pieced together
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the behaviors, they identified these four other incidents that occurred
in Nightcliff and put them together. So, look, you know,
we've reviewed the process around notification to the public. You know,
certainly is something that we need to obviously focus on.
They happened nearly a week apart one of them, so
that happened once a week for four weeks basically, and
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that probably impacted on the realization that there was this.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Issue going on.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So we do need to make sure that we're focusing
on a linkages between yeah, same perpetrator committing offenses, but
also making sure the public are warned.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, I know, for me, I thought to myself, goodness me,
you know, if I was then running in that area
and something like that happened and I found out that
this person had allegedly been assaulting or had assaulted someone
else the week prior and there was no warning go out.
I mean at the very least, you might reconsider we're
going to exercise, or you might not exercise with your
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headphones in, or you might not let your teenage daughter
go for a run. There'd be a lot of different
factors that come into play. So I suppose what people
want to know today is are we going to ensure
that next time there is a situation like this, the
public are not to fight.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh, certainly, we attempt to do that whenever we can.
It was probably something you know, we've certainly learned from
in this instance, and we'll do everything we can to
ensure that where possible, we notify the community. Obviously some
of that and they won't. In Rapper Creek, the assault
on the woman the path, that was domestic violence related,
so the perpetrator was known to the victim and that
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matters obviously before the courts. Now, so that was quite
different circumstances. Really indecent salts.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And just terrible left there on the foot path. Yeah,
it was unconscious, horrendous. Yeah. Well, Assistant Commissioner Michael White
overseeing domestic, family and Sexual Violence and of course Youth,
really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much
for joining us in the studio pleasure. Thank you that
number if you do want to call through this morning
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eight nine four one one four nine. Actually, Michael, before
I let you go, I have just got one quick
question from a listener if you don't mind me asking
Davi in t wee wondering, Katie, can you ask the
commissioner why there isn't any foot patrols in Nightcliff here
we yeah, wondering why we don't have any foot patrols
in Nightcliffe at the moment. I know that's not sort
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of your you know your area, but why aren't they?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Look I believe there are my thoughts or understanding was
that was the case. But obviously it depends on the
time of day, what's on. They might need to be
more mobile with a vehicle with them. If they arrest
someone in their own foot patrol, it's actually quite problematic
because they have to then wait for someone to come
and help them. So, yeah, it is a balance of
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getting that we do have. Obviously, we have mounted unit,
we have bicycle patrols, we have the other four wheelers
to get around and sometimes we use those because it's
a quicker response when we're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
When you deal with someone yeah, thank you very much
again for your time this morning. Much appreciated.