November 16, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode, Chris & Amy dive into the chaos, comedy, and curveballs of real life from failed parenting hacks to cheating scandals uncovered through Spotify, phone addiction revelations, Jelly Roll’s prison-to-parenthood moment, Amy’s marriage revival, outdated school curriculums, and the weekly Facebook Mums Group drama. The show is packed with relatable parenting fails, big laughs, and surprisingly heartfelt moments.
🎧 Chapters
00:00 – The One-Hit Parenting Hack Fails
02:10 – Cheating Scandal Exposed on Spotify
05:00 – The Secret WhatsApp Hidden Chat Code
05:40 – Chris Realises He’s the Bus Creeper
06:50 – Nathan Cleary’s Phone Addiction Fix
09:30 – Jelly Roll Finds Out He’s a Dad in Jail
13:40 – Amy & Ryan’s Marriage Reboot
17:30 – What Schools Should Really Teach
21:10 – Facebook Mums Group: The iPad Debate
26:00 – Wrap-Up of the Week
🔑 Keywords
Chris & Amy, KIIS FM, parenting hacks, cheating scandal, Spotify cheating, WhatsApp hidden chat, phone addiction, Nathan Cleary, Jelly Roll, pregnancy stories, marriage reset, modern parenting, iPad addiction, school curriculum rant, Facebook mums group, screen time debate.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, let's talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Here, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Let's got.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Good morning that.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Remains to be seen Chris Page and the Amy Yards
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Good Morning, Happy Sunday, Amy Morning.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Now, I've got to raise with you straight away how
you went yesterday because I gave you on the show
and all of our listeners a new parenting hack which
seems to be working for my boys, who fight constantly,
as all siblings do. And it was to say to them,
you're allowed to hit each other, but only once a day.
You get one hit, so you know, save it up
(00:58):
and make sure it's worth it. My boys have actually
responded pretty well to it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, so I wanted to take it home, and I
really wanted it to work. But here's the problem with
my two boys. It's like I'm talking to a brick
war most of the time. And I sat them down
when they were having dinner last night and I said,
you know the whole speech, I'm okay with you smacking
each other.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Now, that's a new rule.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yep, You're allowed to smack once only And they both
kind of looked at me and had a laugh and whatnot, and.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I, for a very brief second thought that maybe it
was going to work.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, but I took the washing down to the backyard
and started hanging it out, and sure enough Bobby came
back out with a bleeding nose and the smack I
had escalated into a full blown brawl.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Is this something wrong with them? Is it like a
fetal alcohol?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
There's nothing wrong with them. They're just absolute turns, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That's natural. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
This is Crispage and Amy to ride.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Hey, if you're cheating on your partner, don't there Well, okay, don't.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
But if you're already doing it, there's so many I know.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I've got a cautionary tail for you dirty dogs out
there because a lady has busted her boyfriend cheating on her.
You using I mean, you think this would be safe,
but nothing is safe apparently with technology. No, the Apple
watches there, old, you're not been doing that forever.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know, You've got to delete your messages off your
phone as well as your Apple Watch.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Because they're all in the cloud, right, the cloud gets everyone. No,
this is.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Spotify, Spotify, she caught him cheating on Spotify.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Let me tell you how.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
This is Sarah, who'd been with her boyfriend for eighteen months.
They were at a Sunday barbecue and she's not a
nosy person, doesn't look through his phone, but did just
pick up his phone to change the music.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
While she was looking at.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
His Spotify, she realized it was a shared account and
the account holder was named mum.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, so he's using his mum's Spotify, yes, which.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Is what she concluded and said, Okay, that's a bit
weird that he's still using his mum's Spotify, but yeah, yeah, sure, Hey,
in tough economic times, it's a cost of living crisis.
She didn't think anything of it, but she was talking
to her girlfriends later on about it. She mentioned it
like a funny story, he's still using his mum's thing,
and one of her girlfriends said, what if mum isn't
(03:15):
his mum?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What if, like mum is his wife.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So Sarah started doing her own research, as they say online,
didn't take much. A Facebook tag, a LinkedIn profile and
address that wasn't his apartment that she'd been to. Then
the photos, holiday snaps, Christmas mornings, a woman smiling at
the camera, his arm around her waist, two children with
(03:41):
his exact blue eyes all there.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The mom is actually the wife.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Kids, so mom has started a Spotify account, probably given
access to her two children, and then he's essentially dad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They've got the family.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
He has a full.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Blown family, and the girlfriend is actually just the side salas.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
She's the side piece. But she had cheating that he
had a secret family she had been going to.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
He's obviously he's obviously got some dough because.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
He had a spare apartment that he was taking the
girlfriend too, and god knows how many others guys the time.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This has happened to a girlfriend of mine, though a
girl this is years ago, but a girlfriend of mine
had been seeing her partner for five six years, had
a son to him.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
They were together, she was engaged and he used to
go into state. I think he was in building or
something weeks on and off, on and off for two
three years.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Anyway, I don't know how it all kind of unfolded,
but she basically found out that not only did he
have a girlfriend up there, he had another child up there.
So what he had with her in Sydney he also
had in Brisbante.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So he had two double lives.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why why why would I mean, I get cheating.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'm not personally doing it, but I understand the motivation, right,
having a hot young thing on the side, Why would
you want a second family? Yeah, so you cheaters out there, Yeah,
there's another one add to your list with the cloud
and the watch.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Heard about the WhatsApp Apparently there's the new cheating thing
is in WhatsApp?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh yeah, the hidden chat.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I did not know about this. I've only recently learned
about this.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Who showed you that? I'm not telling a friend of
your yeap? All right?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So what do people do if they don't know about it?
You just like secret secret chat?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You literally type in a code and then and otherwise
the chat does not exist. If anyone knows about this
secret chat? Are you a dirty doll?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
If my wife went, why do you have a secret chat?
I'm a drug dealer.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sure, let's go with that. Yeah, definitely a drug dealer.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
This is Crisp Page and Amy Erard.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I was on the Loser Cruiser the other day. I
think at the bus end of the city.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
A loser cruise, well, lots of people catch the bus.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I didn't feel like a winner anymore. I was just
sitting there looking around at everyone, and literally everyone had
their head in their phone.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, And I was like, oh God, look at this.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Then I realized I was the weirdo because I was
the one guy not looking at my phone.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Actually, because if you're not looking at your phone, you're
you're looking at other people, which makes that weird.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Isn't that just what people used to do on the bus.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
When I used to catch the train back in twenty
years ago. When I used to catch the train into work,
I would sit on the train and whoever sat next
to me, I would strike up a conversation with them.
And I actually feel like people would find that so annoying.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Now now, yeah, because people are just they want to
look at their phone.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I met a girlfriend who I literally still to this
day keep in touch with on the train.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I met a guy who I ended up sleeping with
on the train.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Not straight away with him on the train, no.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
No, but I like we.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I met him on the train in the same carriage
and we chatted and then we exchanged numbers.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
We get on the same carriage every morning.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Hey don't know, not on the train at me. We
went to the toilets at the station.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I ye, I wasn't an animal yet Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The reason I bring it up.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Superstar NRL player Nathan Cleary has opened up about his
addiction to his phone because he was I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
He's a like addicted.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Well yes, but he realized he was doing too much
of the doom scrolling and just going down rabbit holes
and he wanted to well, he wanted to be a
better football player and to do that, he wanted to
be a better person. So he's addressed the phone addiction
and he's cut right back.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He now he only.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Uses his phone to talk to his long distance girlfriend
Mary Fowler.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, I'm struggling to understand the connection between being on
your phone and playing football.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, that's what he talks about.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's dopamine and he was finding himself out on the
field and not getting the dopamine highs to make him
sort of.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You know why, because he was getting them from socials.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Because he was spending all this time on the phone,
and it just messes with your dopamine levels because it's
giving you these constant you know, as you scroll, it's
giving your brain these pings of dopamine because it's how
Instagram and everything's designed, and it messes with your equilibrium,
I suppose with the dopamine, and you don't get those
highs in real life.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't think I get dopamine hits from social What
I find it does is it's just a boredom cure.
You think about back in the day before phones, you'd
sit on the toilet and what would you do. I
used to count the tiles, or I'd pull out like
hand wash, all liquid soap, and I'd read the back
of it because I was bored. And now a phone
replaces that.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, I'm not comfortable talking about what I used to do.
You know, you find somewhere to pass the time. Yeah, yeah,
you pick up a shampoo bottle.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, something.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's definitely addictive.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm not denying that, and I have to work really
hard to put boundaries in place.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Obviously, my entire work is on my phone.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, so I have to be really careful to not
constantly be on it. But it's more not so I
don't pick it up to get a hit from it
from dopamine.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I pick it up because I'm bored.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
But you're not conscious of No one goes Oh, I
just felt a dopamine hit, you know, like it like
Instagram is does and TikTok are designed by the same people.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That make poker machines.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Machines to give you.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
The you know, the random rewards and the right flashing
lights and everything at the right time.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I do like online shopping though, that gives me a
dopamine here.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I did that on my phone.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, don't get addicted to it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So he's a better player now that he's pissed his
phone off.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, so he says he wasn't that good in the
test in the ukto actually maybe maybe he needs to
get back on his phone. Get back to the doom scrolling, Nathan,
get back to your panthers form.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
This is Chris Page and Amy to ride jelly Roll.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's just been in the country, done a tour. He
was in jail. He was a bad as bit of
a bad dude, the big Unit.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, he's got the face tats. He kind of belongs
in there, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Does he have any tear drops amongst those?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I don't think so he's got well, yeah, because you
know what that means.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Does it mean you killed someone?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, Anyway, he was in jail.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
He spoke to Kate Lambrok while he was here on
her No Filter podcast with Mama Meha and said that
he found out he was a dad in jail, which
would be a really really weird thing.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He's jelly roll.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I was in chorus read and they knocked on my
cell door and told me that she was born. And
I know it sounds crazy, but it was like a
light switch happened in my head right then that I
was like, I'm worth like thirty two dollars in potato
chips and honey buns. That's like what my life is worth.
And I was like, and I'm a father, and I
just like felt guilt and I felt shame my whole
(10:30):
life and guilt, but never like this. And I was like,
I gotta figure this out. And I immediately I went
and got my ged while I was still in jail.
I've been in jail a year and some change. At
that point, had done nothing but play poker and get
in trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, well that I've got something to bring up here,
he said in jail. He'd been in jail for a
year at that point, playing poker and getting himself into trouble,
and yet his baby had just been born and women
are only pregnant for forty weeks, which is not fifty two.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Oh, the mother was probably one of the female prison guards.
You know, that's in the news every week.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
They love it.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Maybe, or maybe the conjugal visit.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, in the caravan they go, the man goes a rocket.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That must have been a horrible feeling sitting in a jail,
so going, oh my god, I'm a dad because he.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Said, like a switch just flicks. Oh you've got no sympathy.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I mean, why are you in jail in the first place.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Is that the face tats? Have you killed someone?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I don't think he killed anyone.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, No, he wouldn't be a star.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Alec Baldwin killed someone, He's a star. When did you
find out you were going to be a mum for
the first time?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh wow, Charlie, because I actually, if I remember correctly,
you were a fluozy living in sin, an unmarried mother whore.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Well the Catholics like to call me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's in the Bible.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yes, did be your dad have to get out the
shotgun and take rine to the altar?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No he didn't, No, but Ryan and I had hadn't
hadn't been dating for very long. I obviously we were
not trying for a child. We just moved in together.
I went to an zach Dale, was playing two up,
had a few drinks, probably about fifteen vodka sodas in lime,
and Yeah, found out on Monday that I was up
the duff.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Maybe that's why Charlie's eyes a different color.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Potentially that's a genetic mutation.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I think it's pretty cool, so vodkasodas for anyone
who wants to different coloredies.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Did Ryan potentially make some promises to you during love
making that he didn't end up Yeah, following through with no.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I think it's because we'd had a big day at
the races, and so we were both a bit sourced
and having a good time and then a bit slow
off the mark.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
He was, you know, reversing out just.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Too slow exactly, mister not in time I found out
what about you?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Well, Georgie and.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I when we found out we were pregnant with our
first son, Henry, we were in Fiji, huh, And it
was the first day of our holiday, Yes, a ten
day holiday with an all inclusive drinks package.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Day one.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Georgie is pregnant. I'll tell you what I was doing
the heavy lift. I was drinking for two that entire holiday.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
You would have been great at that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
You guys were trying though, right, Yes, we had been.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We've been trying a little while. Yeah, So it was
it was a very It wasn't a surprise like with you.
It was a very joyous moment.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah. I was going to say for me, I was like,
well wtf.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Georgie was just like, this is great. But could it
have waited ten days?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
But yeah, but when you've been waiting and trying, you
take the win.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Don't worry. We still I'm at a dent in that resource.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But you did.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This is crisp page and Amy.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I want to let you know that things in my marriage,
after a long, long eight years of just weathering the
storm and being in the eye of it, I feel
like things are getting really good.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
You posted something nice about Ryan. Did you say I'm
going to date the shit out of this guy.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, we're going to start prioritizing our marriage, which I
mean most people do that on the week or like
on the daily, but I feel like Ryan and I
obviously we got together and felt pregnant very quickly. So
our honeymoon period was cut short five six months after
we started dating.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Really, so you literally had six months and then you
were that was it.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And then I was pregnant, kids, kids, kids.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Pregnant, breastfeeding, and then after all three then I was
heavily mum life, stay at home mum, so touched out.
I didn't really have a spare inch of me to
give him.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You didn't have a cuddle for him, because no, I
had a cuddle. I didn't have an intimacy.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I didn't. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of intimacy.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And even because our kids were so young and I
was obviously breastfeeding one of them, we couldn't really go
on date nights either, so we would try at home.
I would always fall asleep, or you know.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Vice versa. We were passing ships, I know, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I feel like any parent listening right now would understand
and can relate to this.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
We were very much passing ships.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And our kids are still very very much challenging now,
but they are somewhat more self sufficient, and I would
say just in the last couple of months, we've really
tried to lean in and set some things in place
so that we can go on little dates together.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Have you got a babysitter?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I do.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
We've got a next door neighbor. She's the sixteen year
old twenty dollars an hour.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
She good looking.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, she's very pretty, and my boys love when she babysit,
so put it that way.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I remember their first babysit and.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
She raised Charlie's hair, so it's a win win. They
love it when she comes over. But it made me
realize how much I actually like the guy. And I
know that sounds really sad, but honestly, we're just going
through the motions. When we get home, there's all the
extracurriculum activities, then there's dinner, then there's bedtime routine, and
then by the time the kids get to bed, I
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either have to do some posting on socials, he has
to jump back on his emails. We watch a show
without really talking to each other, and then we both
go to bed. Sometimes there'll be some adult cuddling, but
also I have a headache quite a lot often, you know.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
So the last couple of weeks we've had three dates.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Sometimes they're just quick after work, but we sit and
we literally talk to each other and we have a meal.
We keep our phones in our bag, and I honestly
am getting these glimmers of this is what I had
with him in those very very early days.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You're not looking at him as a dad and sort
of going stop yelling at the kids, and now you're
not doing this right normally.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I want to punch him in the face. He's annoying
right now. He's a dude, and he's a handsome guy.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And like last night we went on a date and
I ended up sitting on his lab at the end
of the meal and we had a little smooch and
it was really nice.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
And it just reminded me of when we were first together.
And it just makes me think.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Like this morning, on driving into radio, picked up a
phone and he was like, hey babe.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I said, oh, I'm just ringing this out. I love
you and he was like, oh, I love you too.
Like I would never do that the last six years.
I'd be like, where are you? Why'd you home yet?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You said you've been on three dates in three weeks? Yes,
what's Ryan's strike rate on the three?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Three?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Ryan, Yes, you go.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Honestly, those date nights lead to more intimacy, and I
want it to happeness.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're actually attracted to the point.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yes, I'm like, let's go, should take Georgie on a date.
Haven't you used that birthday voucher?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You useless prick? Take her on a date? Is it?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'll make the booking. Actually, by the looks of that restaurant,
we'll just be able to walk in.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I reckon, pisce Off is a good restaurant.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
This is crisp Page and Amy to ride.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I want to have a quick chat about school curriculum.
Don't you wish that maybe not in primary school. Primary
school you're learning your colors and how to spell and
ride and all that kind of stuff. But I would
love for them to get a little bit more realistic
about the things that kids need to learn in school,
like pisce Off, Pythagoras's theorem, and let's talk budgeting. Give
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the kids some money, give them a monthly wage, Teach
them how to budget with their money. Teach them how
to change a tire, Teach them do taxes.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No one knows how to do their tax I.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Still don't know how to do my taxes. I pay
an accountant, right I'd love to be able to do
them myself. I would love for there to be like
conflict resolution classes or social you know, there's so many
people who are socially awkward, like how to build up
confidence and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I reckon they're teaching them how to be woke, aren't they.
Isn't that the big thing at school? Like using all
the right terms for are they reason?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah? I bet they don't even read to Kill a
mockingbird anymore?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Even cooking, Like they send you out into the world,
and sure you know your times table and you know
how to write and stuff, but do you know how to.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Everyone should know how to do a spaghetti bolonnaise.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Right, that's you should know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
There should be four or five dishes that you should cook.
You should know how to budget your money. I've still
got a girlfriend who gets her paycheck and she spends
every single cent of it.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
None of that gets taught to you.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You can't do a budget, but you can work out
the area of a circle exactly, all the angles of
a triangle.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, or like what a noun is. I don't actually
remember anything that I learned at school.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I bet you picked up a few skills Yeah, do
you not agree with me? No, I really do agree
with you because and the other point we've made before
on this show is that eighteen, You know how legally
you're an adult when you're eighteen, We've got no eighteen
year olds aren't adults. Let them start drinking and smoking
and voting and driving. But you're not an adult. You're
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an adult at maybe thirty.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
You're an adult. Yeah, that's exactly what I feel like.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You're an adult when you have more responsibilities, so like
children or a mortgage, or when you.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Are responsible for something other than just yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And if you're a single lady at thirty, I don't know,
are you still?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That could be another subject they could teach at school,
like dating and how.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
To date, how to spot a red flag.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, how to wear high heels and put on make wax.
But all of all of those life skills.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Are you sounding a little sexist right now?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's twenty twenty five, Amy, half of the boys are
wearing high hexing these days.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
It's true, not sexist.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Anyway, that's just my little rant. I actually think teachers
would be on board.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Too with the speed technology is changing, though they do
need to overhaul a lot of this stuff. I mean,
you're right, like calculators, aren't you No, but AI is where.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You can just ask.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I can now ask my television the question and it
just answers anything.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's like everything is evolving except the curriculum in schools,
Like no kid is doing their own exams anymore. Chat
GBT is writing them all for them. I don't know
what the way around it is, but I think introducing
life skills that they are going to need are going
to be far better received and appreciated, and like, what's
(20:59):
the word? I can't even think this is why because
there's no life skills in communications.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
In my schools.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Forming a sentence, two units, forming a sentence. You haven't
be on the radio kids, Just kidding. By the time
you grow up, Radyo'll be dead.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Driving a car, just driving. They should teach, especially in girls' school.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, this is Cris Page and Amy Jerid. What's the
big issue in the Facebook mums groups?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
All right, Hi, mum's okay, unpopular opinion time. I don't
limit iPad time at my house. My kids can pretty much.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Use it whenever they want, and honestly, we're all surviving
just fine. They learn stuff. They chill out.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I get a moment to breathe a coffee or a
drink while it's still hot. Some days it's bluey, some
days it's Minecraft, and some days it's just peace and quiet.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
And I'm not mad about it. I used to feel guilty.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
But now I figure screens are part of their world
and I'd rather teach them balance with it than battle
against it. Is anyone else not stressing over iPad time?
Or am I about to be banned from the group?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Big issue?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Well, last week we had a woman banned from the
group because she was a sex work.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
We're probably not.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, no, I reckon, You're okay.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You're probably all right.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah, it's your take on this. Look.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I can only speak from my personal experience, and that
is that we have gotten rid of the iPads same completely,
and once you get through the first week or two
and their addiction, they wean off it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah. My kids are fantastic.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I was watching them the other morning before school, and
I'm not gloating, but I was looking out the window.
They were playing outside, Henry was playing footy, if Oscar
was tooling around the garden with these animals yep, And
I was going Oh my god, look at this.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
This is childhood.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, they're not even watching television.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, oh look, And I think the thing is I
think the problem here is there are some kids who
can watch an iPad and then put it down and
go about their day.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Right. My daughter's one of them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
She can have her iPad for large chunks of time
during the day, and then when I take it off
her for dinner or school, whatever, she's fine. My two
boys are not wired like that. You try and take
it off them, it's World War three. So we've also
made the decision to remove the iPad out of our household.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Now, my daughter still has it.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
She gets a couple of hours on the weekend because
it's not an issue for us with her.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Do you think that's a broader thing that boys have
more of a problem with it than girls, or is
it unique to your house?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Because I'm only speaking obviously about my own personal, lived
in experience.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Is this mentioned Minecraft? And I've never heard a girls
playing Minecraft. I'm sure they do, but yeah, it seems
like a boy obsession.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
The people who I know who have children and they've
struggled with this whole iPad thing, it's always with.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Boys gaming in general, gaming in general.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And I think the addictive personalities that come from you know,
Minecraft and roadblocks, and where it becomes tricky is when
you do have mums like that who are just free
for all and do you and watch your iPad. And
I get it because when my kids are on their
iPad it is it's bliss, it's peace and quiet. It's
(24:10):
the aftermath of the iPad use that just ruined it
for me. But when you've got one mum who is
so lenient with the iPad, it makes it hard for
all the other moms to kind of pull back and
put boundaries in place or remove it. I remember watching
something on socials about this child psychologist and he was like,
if all parents banded together and made a unanimous decision to.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Remove iPads from kids up until the age of.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Sixteen, it would make everyone's life so much easier.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
That's the thinking behind the social media band isn't It's like, well,
as we do it forever.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Alle but it's never going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You do have and I'm going to say it it's
probably controversial, but you do have parents who are a
little bit lazier and they can't be bothered and it's
the easy way out, just chuck an iPad in front
of them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But you know, there's the aftermath of when you take
them away. But it is well, I mean, in my
experience it was short lived. Yes, it was a really
tough week or two when we first took them away.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes, but they do forget about it.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Oh no, I'm talking about when you take them all
way on the daily.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Well, yeah, yeah, it feels like you've got to do
all or nothing. And really it's very difficult to go here.
It is for half an hour and then.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You and it's so hard.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I've got girlfriends who are makeup artists. I've got single
moms who are makeup artists, and they need to take
their kids sometimes and do their clients makeup and they
put so their iPads are absolute necessary evil.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So it's a really tricky one. I wish they weren't
even invented that.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Way exactly, Steve Jobs. Hell, they are addictions, and it'd
be like saying it a heroin addict.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Here's some heroin. Good hero enjoy the heroin. Okay, no
more heroin. Finish stop right.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Now, correct, don't give the kids that exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
iPads are fine.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Look, no, I'm going to back this mom and say,
you know what, everyone's kids are different, everyone's home is different.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Of course, you know your kids better than anyone.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You make the decision. And that's why the social media
band doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Because I'm not going to get into it again with you.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Really, because I'm not going to let albow tell me
how to raise my kids.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
And you can't look at you should give them back
their iPads?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Then no, because I made that decision. I just don't
want the government to tell me what to do. Okay,
I know the government Ken trails.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, all right, big issue. That's the Facebook Moms group
and that's our show for the week. We are out
of here. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Maybe maybe,
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, let's talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Here, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Let's got.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Good morning that.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Remains to be seen Chris Page and the Amy Yards
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Good Morning, Happy Sunday, Amy Morning.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Now, I've got to raise with you straight away how
you went yesterday because I gave you on the show
and all of our listeners a new parenting hack which
seems to be working for my boys, who fight constantly,
as all siblings do. And it was to say to them,
you're allowed to hit each other, but only once a day.
You get one hit, so you know, save it up
(00:58):
and make sure it's worth it. My boys have actually
responded pretty well to it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, so I wanted to take it home, and I
really wanted it to work. But here's the problem with
my two boys. It's like I'm talking to a brick
war most of the time. And I sat them down
when they were having dinner last night and I said,
you know the whole speech, I'm okay with you smacking
each other.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Now, that's a new rule.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yep, You're allowed to smack once only And they both
kind of looked at me and had a laugh and whatnot, and.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I, for a very brief second thought that maybe it
was going to work.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, but I took the washing down to the backyard
and started hanging it out, and sure enough Bobby came
back out with a bleeding nose and the smack I
had escalated into a full blown brawl.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Is this something wrong with them? Is it like a
fetal alcohol?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
There's nothing wrong with them. They're just absolute turns, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That's natural. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
This is Crispage and Amy to ride.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Hey, if you're cheating on your partner, don't there Well, okay, don't.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
But if you're already doing it, there's so many I know.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I've got a cautionary tail for you dirty dogs out
there because a lady has busted her boyfriend cheating on her.
You using I mean, you think this would be safe,
but nothing is safe apparently with technology. No, the Apple
watches there, old, you're not been doing that forever.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know, You've got to delete your messages off your
phone as well as your Apple Watch.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Because they're all in the cloud, right, the cloud gets everyone. No,
this is.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Spotify, Spotify, she caught him cheating on Spotify.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Let me tell you how.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
This is Sarah, who'd been with her boyfriend for eighteen months.
They were at a Sunday barbecue and she's not a
nosy person, doesn't look through his phone, but did just
pick up his phone to change the music.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
While she was looking at.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
His Spotify, she realized it was a shared account and
the account holder was named mum.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, so he's using his mum's Spotify, yes, which.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Is what she concluded and said, Okay, that's a bit
weird that he's still using his mum's Spotify, but yeah, yeah, sure, Hey,
in tough economic times, it's a cost of living crisis.
She didn't think anything of it, but she was talking
to her girlfriends later on about it. She mentioned it
like a funny story, he's still using his mum's thing,
and one of her girlfriends said, what if mum isn't
(03:15):
his mum?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What if, like mum is his wife.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So Sarah started doing her own research, as they say online,
didn't take much. A Facebook tag, a LinkedIn profile and
address that wasn't his apartment that she'd been to. Then
the photos, holiday snaps, Christmas mornings, a woman smiling at
the camera, his arm around her waist, two children with
(03:41):
his exact blue eyes all there.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The mom is actually the wife.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Kids, so mom has started a Spotify account, probably given
access to her two children, and then he's essentially dad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They've got the family.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
He has a full.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Blown family, and the girlfriend is actually just the side salas.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
She's the side piece. But she had cheating that he
had a secret family she had been going to.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
He's obviously he's obviously got some dough because.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
He had a spare apartment that he was taking the
girlfriend too, and god knows how many others guys the time.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This has happened to a girlfriend of mine, though a
girl this is years ago, but a girlfriend of mine
had been seeing her partner for five six years, had
a son to him.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
They were together, she was engaged and he used to
go into state. I think he was in building or
something weeks on and off, on and off for two
three years.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Anyway, I don't know how it all kind of unfolded,
but she basically found out that not only did he
have a girlfriend up there, he had another child up there.
So what he had with her in Sydney he also
had in Brisbante.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So he had two double lives.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why why why would I mean, I get cheating.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'm not personally doing it, but I understand the motivation, right,
having a hot young thing on the side, Why would
you want a second family? Yeah, so you cheaters out there, Yeah,
there's another one add to your list with the cloud
and the watch.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Heard about the WhatsApp Apparently there's the new cheating thing
is in WhatsApp?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh yeah, the hidden chat.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I did not know about this. I've only recently learned
about this.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Who showed you that? I'm not telling a friend of
your yeap? All right?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So what do people do if they don't know about it?
You just like secret secret chat?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You literally type in a code and then and otherwise
the chat does not exist. If anyone knows about this
secret chat? Are you a dirty doll?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
If my wife went, why do you have a secret chat?
I'm a drug dealer.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sure, let's go with that. Yeah, definitely a drug dealer.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
This is Crisp Page and Amy Erard.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I was on the Loser Cruiser the other day. I
think at the bus end of the city.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
A loser cruise, well, lots of people catch the bus.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I didn't feel like a winner anymore. I was just
sitting there looking around at everyone, and literally everyone had
their head in their phone.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, And I was like, oh God, look at this.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Then I realized I was the weirdo because I was
the one guy not looking at my phone.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Actually, because if you're not looking at your phone, you're
you're looking at other people, which makes that weird.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Isn't that just what people used to do on the bus.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
When I used to catch the train back in twenty
years ago. When I used to catch the train into work,
I would sit on the train and whoever sat next
to me, I would strike up a conversation with them.
And I actually feel like people would find that so annoying.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Now now, yeah, because people are just they want to
look at their phone.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I met a girlfriend who I literally still to this
day keep in touch with on the train.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I met a guy who I ended up sleeping with
on the train.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Not straight away with him on the train, no.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
No, but I like we.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I met him on the train in the same carriage
and we chatted and then we exchanged numbers.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
We get on the same carriage every morning.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Hey don't know, not on the train at me. We
went to the toilets at the station.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I ye, I wasn't an animal yet Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The reason I bring it up.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Superstar NRL player Nathan Cleary has opened up about his
addiction to his phone because he was I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
He's a like addicted.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Well yes, but he realized he was doing too much
of the doom scrolling and just going down rabbit holes
and he wanted to well, he wanted to be a
better football player and to do that, he wanted to
be a better person. So he's addressed the phone addiction
and he's cut right back.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He now he only.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Uses his phone to talk to his long distance girlfriend
Mary Fowler.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, I'm struggling to understand the connection between being on
your phone and playing football.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, that's what he talks about.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's dopamine and he was finding himself out on the
field and not getting the dopamine highs to make him
sort of.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You know why, because he was getting them from socials.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Because he was spending all this time on the phone,
and it just messes with your dopamine levels because it's
giving you these constant you know, as you scroll, it's
giving your brain these pings of dopamine because it's how
Instagram and everything's designed, and it messes with your equilibrium,
I suppose with the dopamine, and you don't get those
highs in real life.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't think I get dopamine hits from social What
I find it does is it's just a boredom cure.
You think about back in the day before phones, you'd
sit on the toilet and what would you do. I
used to count the tiles, or I'd pull out like
hand wash, all liquid soap, and I'd read the back
of it because I was bored. And now a phone
replaces that.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, I'm not comfortable talking about what I used to do.
You know, you find somewhere to pass the time. Yeah, yeah,
you pick up a shampoo bottle.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, something.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's definitely addictive.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm not denying that, and I have to work really
hard to put boundaries in place.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Obviously, my entire work is on my phone.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, so I have to be really careful to not
constantly be on it. But it's more not so I
don't pick it up to get a hit from it
from dopamine.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I pick it up because I'm bored.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
But you're not conscious of No one goes Oh, I
just felt a dopamine hit, you know, like it like
Instagram is does and TikTok are designed by the same people.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That make poker machines.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Machines to give you.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
The you know, the random rewards and the right flashing
lights and everything at the right time.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I do like online shopping though, that gives me a
dopamine here.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I did that on my phone.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, don't get addicted to it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So he's a better player now that he's pissed his
phone off.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, so he says he wasn't that good in the
test in the ukto actually maybe maybe he needs to
get back on his phone. Get back to the doom scrolling, Nathan,
get back to your panthers form.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
This is Chris Page and Amy to ride jelly Roll.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's just been in the country, done a tour. He
was in jail. He was a bad as bit of
a bad dude, the big Unit.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, he's got the face tats. He kind of belongs
in there, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Does he have any tear drops amongst those?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I don't think so he's got well, yeah, because you
know what that means.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Does it mean you killed someone?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, Anyway, he was in jail.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
He spoke to Kate Lambrok while he was here on
her No Filter podcast with Mama Meha and said that
he found out he was a dad in jail, which
would be a really really weird thing.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He's jelly roll.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I was in chorus read and they knocked on my
cell door and told me that she was born. And
I know it sounds crazy, but it was like a
light switch happened in my head right then that I
was like, I'm worth like thirty two dollars in potato
chips and honey buns. That's like what my life is worth.
And I was like, and I'm a father, and I
just like felt guilt and I felt shame my whole
(10:30):
life and guilt, but never like this. And I was like,
I gotta figure this out. And I immediately I went
and got my ged while I was still in jail.
I've been in jail a year and some change. At
that point, had done nothing but play poker and get
in trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, well that I've got something to bring up here,
he said in jail. He'd been in jail for a
year at that point, playing poker and getting himself into trouble,
and yet his baby had just been born and women
are only pregnant for forty weeks, which is not fifty two.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Oh, the mother was probably one of the female prison guards.
You know, that's in the news every week.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
They love it.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Maybe, or maybe the conjugal visit.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, in the caravan they go, the man goes a rocket.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That must have been a horrible feeling sitting in a jail,
so going, oh my god, I'm a dad because he.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Said, like a switch just flicks. Oh you've got no sympathy.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I mean, why are you in jail in the first place.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Is that the face tats? Have you killed someone?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I don't think he killed anyone.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, No, he wouldn't be a star.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Alec Baldwin killed someone, He's a star. When did you
find out you were going to be a mum for
the first time?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh wow, Charlie, because I actually, if I remember correctly,
you were a fluozy living in sin, an unmarried mother whore.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Well the Catholics like to call me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's in the Bible.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yes, did be your dad have to get out the
shotgun and take rine to the altar?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No he didn't, No, but Ryan and I had hadn't
hadn't been dating for very long. I obviously we were
not trying for a child. We just moved in together.
I went to an zach Dale, was playing two up,
had a few drinks, probably about fifteen vodka sodas in lime,
and Yeah, found out on Monday that I was up
the duff.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Maybe that's why Charlie's eyes a different color.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Potentially that's a genetic mutation.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I think it's pretty cool, so vodkasodas for anyone
who wants to different coloredies.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Did Ryan potentially make some promises to you during love
making that he didn't end up Yeah, following through with no.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I think it's because we'd had a big day at
the races, and so we were both a bit sourced
and having a good time and then a bit slow
off the mark.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
He was, you know, reversing out just.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Too slow exactly, mister not in time I found out
what about you?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Well, Georgie and.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I when we found out we were pregnant with our
first son, Henry, we were in Fiji, huh, And it
was the first day of our holiday, Yes, a ten
day holiday with an all inclusive drinks package.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Day one.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Georgie is pregnant. I'll tell you what I was doing
the heavy lift. I was drinking for two that entire holiday.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
You would have been great at that.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
You guys were trying though, right, Yes, we had been.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We've been trying a little while. Yeah, So it was
it was a very It wasn't a surprise like with you.
It was a very joyous moment.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah. I was going to say for me, I was like,
well wtf.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Georgie was just like, this is great. But could it
have waited ten days?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
But yeah, but when you've been waiting and trying, you
take the win.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Don't worry. We still I'm at a dent in that resource.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But you did.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This is crisp page and Amy.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I want to let you know that things in my marriage,
after a long, long eight years of just weathering the
storm and being in the eye of it, I feel
like things are getting really good.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
You posted something nice about Ryan. Did you say I'm
going to date the shit out of this guy.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, we're going to start prioritizing our marriage, which I
mean most people do that on the week or like
on the daily, but I feel like Ryan and I
obviously we got together and felt pregnant very quickly. So
our honeymoon period was cut short five six months after
we started dating.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Really, so you literally had six months and then you
were that was it.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And then I was pregnant, kids, kids, kids.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Pregnant, breastfeeding, and then after all three then I was
heavily mum life, stay at home mum, so touched out.
I didn't really have a spare inch of me to
give him.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You didn't have a cuddle for him, because no, I
had a cuddle. I didn't have an intimacy.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I didn't. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of intimacy.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And even because our kids were so young and I
was obviously breastfeeding one of them, we couldn't really go
on date nights either, so we would try at home.
I would always fall asleep, or you know.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Vice versa. We were passing ships, I know, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I feel like any parent listening right now would understand
and can relate to this.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
We were very much passing ships.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And our kids are still very very much challenging now,
but they are somewhat more self sufficient, and I would
say just in the last couple of months, we've really
tried to lean in and set some things in place
so that we can go on little dates together.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Have you got a babysitter?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I do.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
We've got a next door neighbor. She's the sixteen year
old twenty dollars an hour.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
She good looking.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, she's very pretty, and my boys love when she babysit,
so put it that way.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I remember their first babysit and.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
She raised Charlie's hair, so it's a win win. They
love it when she comes over. But it made me
realize how much I actually like the guy. And I
know that sounds really sad, but honestly, we're just going
through the motions. When we get home, there's all the
extracurriculum activities, then there's dinner, then there's bedtime routine, and
then by the time the kids get to bed, I
(15:52):
either have to do some posting on socials, he has
to jump back on his emails. We watch a show
without really talking to each other, and then we both
go to bed. Sometimes there'll be some adult cuddling, but
also I have a headache quite a lot often, you know.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
So the last couple of weeks we've had three dates.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Sometimes they're just quick after work, but we sit and
we literally talk to each other and we have a meal.
We keep our phones in our bag, and I honestly
am getting these glimmers of this is what I had
with him in those very very early days.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You're not looking at him as a dad and sort
of going stop yelling at the kids, and now you're
not doing this right normally.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I want to punch him in the face. He's annoying
right now. He's a dude, and he's a handsome guy.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And like last night we went on a date and
I ended up sitting on his lab at the end
of the meal and we had a little smooch and
it was really nice.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
And it just reminded me of when we were first together.
And it just makes me think.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Like this morning, on driving into radio, picked up a
phone and he was like, hey babe.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I said, oh, I'm just ringing this out. I love
you and he was like, oh, I love you too.
Like I would never do that the last six years.
I'd be like, where are you? Why'd you home yet?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You said you've been on three dates in three weeks? Yes,
what's Ryan's strike rate on the three?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Three?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Ryan, Yes, you go.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Honestly, those date nights lead to more intimacy, and I
want it to happeness.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're actually attracted to the point.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yes, I'm like, let's go, should take Georgie on a date.
Haven't you used that birthday voucher?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You useless prick? Take her on a date? Is it?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'll make the booking. Actually, by the looks of that restaurant,
we'll just be able to walk in.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I reckon, pisce Off is a good restaurant.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
This is crisp Page and Amy to ride.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I want to have a quick chat about school curriculum.
Don't you wish that maybe not in primary school. Primary
school you're learning your colors and how to spell and
ride and all that kind of stuff. But I would
love for them to get a little bit more realistic
about the things that kids need to learn in school,
like pisce Off, Pythagoras's theorem, and let's talk budgeting. Give
(18:06):
the kids some money, give them a monthly wage, Teach
them how to budget with their money. Teach them how
to change a tire, Teach them do taxes.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No one knows how to do their tax I.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Still don't know how to do my taxes. I pay
an accountant, right I'd love to be able to do
them myself. I would love for there to be like
conflict resolution classes or social you know, there's so many
people who are socially awkward, like how to build up
confidence and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I reckon they're teaching them how to be woke, aren't they.
Isn't that the big thing at school? Like using all
the right terms for are they reason?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah? I bet they don't even read to Kill a
mockingbird anymore?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Even cooking, Like they send you out into the world,
and sure you know your times table and you know
how to write and stuff, but do you know how to.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Everyone should know how to do a spaghetti bolonnaise.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Right, that's you should know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
There should be four or five dishes that you should cook.
You should know how to budget your money. I've still
got a girlfriend who gets her paycheck and she spends
every single cent of it.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
None of that gets taught to you.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You can't do a budget, but you can work out
the area of a circle exactly, all the angles of
a triangle.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, or like what a noun is. I don't actually
remember anything that I learned at school.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I bet you picked up a few skills Yeah, do
you not agree with me? No, I really do agree
with you because and the other point we've made before
on this show is that eighteen, You know how legally
you're an adult when you're eighteen, We've got no eighteen
year olds aren't adults. Let them start drinking and smoking
and voting and driving. But you're not an adult. You're
(19:41):
an adult at maybe thirty.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
You're an adult. Yeah, that's exactly what I feel like.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You're an adult when you have more responsibilities, so like
children or a mortgage, or when you.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Are responsible for something other than just yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And if you're a single lady at thirty, I don't know,
are you still?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That could be another subject they could teach at school,
like dating and how.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
To date, how to spot a red flag.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, how to wear high heels and put on make wax.
But all of all of those life skills.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Are you sounding a little sexist right now?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's twenty twenty five, Amy, half of the boys are
wearing high hexing these days.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
It's true, not sexist.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Anyway, that's just my little rant. I actually think teachers
would be on board.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Too with the speed technology is changing, though they do
need to overhaul a lot of this stuff. I mean,
you're right, like calculators, aren't you No, but AI is where.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You can just ask.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I can now ask my television the question and it
just answers anything.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's like everything is evolving except the curriculum in schools,
Like no kid is doing their own exams anymore. Chat
GBT is writing them all for them. I don't know
what the way around it is, but I think introducing
life skills that they are going to need are going
to be far better received and appreciated, and like, what's
(20:59):
the word? I can't even think this is why because
there's no life skills in communications.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
In my schools.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Forming a sentence, two units, forming a sentence. You haven't
be on the radio kids, Just kidding. By the time
you grow up, Radyo'll be dead.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Driving a car, just driving. They should teach, especially in girls' school.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, this is Cris Page and Amy Jerid. What's the
big issue in the Facebook mums groups?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
All right, Hi, mum's okay, unpopular opinion time. I don't
limit iPad time at my house. My kids can pretty much.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Use it whenever they want, and honestly, we're all surviving
just fine. They learn stuff. They chill out.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I get a moment to breathe a coffee or a
drink while it's still hot. Some days it's bluey, some
days it's Minecraft, and some days it's just peace and quiet.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
And I'm not mad about it. I used to feel guilty.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
But now I figure screens are part of their world
and I'd rather teach them balance with it than battle
against it. Is anyone else not stressing over iPad time?
Or am I about to be banned from the group?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Big issue?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Well, last week we had a woman banned from the
group because she was a sex work.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
We're probably not.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, no, I reckon, You're okay.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You're probably all right.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah, it's your take on this. Look.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I can only speak from my personal experience, and that
is that we have gotten rid of the iPads same completely,
and once you get through the first week or two
and their addiction, they wean off it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah. My kids are fantastic.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I was watching them the other morning before school, and
I'm not gloating, but I was looking out the window.
They were playing outside, Henry was playing footy, if Oscar
was tooling around the garden with these animals yep, And
I was going Oh my god, look at this.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
This is childhood.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, they're not even watching television.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, oh look, And I think the thing is I
think the problem here is there are some kids who
can watch an iPad and then put it down and
go about their day.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Right. My daughter's one of them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
She can have her iPad for large chunks of time
during the day, and then when I take it off
her for dinner or school, whatever, she's fine. My two
boys are not wired like that. You try and take
it off them, it's World War three. So we've also
made the decision to remove the iPad out of our household.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Now, my daughter still has it.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
She gets a couple of hours on the weekend because
it's not an issue for us with her.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Do you think that's a broader thing that boys have
more of a problem with it than girls, or is
it unique to your house?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Because I'm only speaking obviously about my own personal, lived
in experience.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Is this mentioned Minecraft? And I've never heard a girls
playing Minecraft. I'm sure they do, but yeah, it seems
like a boy obsession.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
The people who I know who have children and they've
struggled with this whole iPad thing, it's always with.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Boys gaming in general, gaming in general.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And I think the addictive personalities that come from you know,
Minecraft and roadblocks, and where it becomes tricky is when
you do have mums like that who are just free
for all and do you and watch your iPad. And
I get it because when my kids are on their
iPad it is it's bliss, it's peace and quiet. It's
(24:10):
the aftermath of the iPad use that just ruined it
for me. But when you've got one mum who is
so lenient with the iPad, it makes it hard for
all the other moms to kind of pull back and
put boundaries in place or remove it. I remember watching
something on socials about this child psychologist and he was like,
if all parents banded together and made a unanimous decision to.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Remove iPads from kids up until the age of.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Sixteen, it would make everyone's life so much easier.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
That's the thinking behind the social media band isn't It's like, well,
as we do it forever.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Alle but it's never going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You do have and I'm going to say it it's
probably controversial, but you do have parents who are a
little bit lazier and they can't be bothered and it's
the easy way out, just chuck an iPad in front
of them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But you know, there's the aftermath of when you take
them away. But it is well, I mean, in my
experience it was short lived. Yes, it was a really
tough week or two when we first took them away.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes, but they do forget about it.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Oh no, I'm talking about when you take them all
way on the daily.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Well, yeah, yeah, it feels like you've got to do
all or nothing. And really it's very difficult to go here.
It is for half an hour and then.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You and it's so hard.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I've got girlfriends who are makeup artists. I've got single
moms who are makeup artists, and they need to take
their kids sometimes and do their clients makeup and they
put so their iPads are absolute necessary evil.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So it's a really tricky one. I wish they weren't
even invented that.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Way exactly, Steve Jobs. Hell, they are addictions, and it'd
be like saying it a heroin addict.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Here's some heroin. Good hero enjoy the heroin. Okay, no
more heroin. Finish stop right.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Now, correct, don't give the kids that exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
iPads are fine.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Look, no, I'm going to back this mom and say,
you know what, everyone's kids are different, everyone's home is different.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Of course, you know your kids better than anyone.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You make the decision. And that's why the social media
band doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Because I'm not going to get into it again with you.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Really, because I'm not going to let albow tell me
how to raise my kids.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
And you can't look at you should give them back
their iPads?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Then no, because I made that decision. I just don't
want the government to tell me what to do. Okay,
I know the government Ken trails.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, all right, big issue. That's the Facebook Moms group
and that's our show for the week. We are out
of here. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Maybe maybe,
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