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June 15, 2025 • 80 mins

Clairsy & Lisa's Perth Pub Crawl was back for 2025 and this time they spoke to even more legends of the Perth Pub Scene including Suze DeMarchi from Baby Animals, Peter Borg from Flash Harry, Tod Johnstone from V-Capi, Peter Dean from The Jets, Tom Tapping from The Rookies, Martin Cilia from The Flying Fonzarelli's, John Webster and Dave Cook from The Motors and Tom Jennis from Clutch Cargo.

So get ready to reminisce about those great old Perth pubs and the bands that played in them and of course sticking to the carpet as you stumble to the bar. It's Clairsy & Lisa's Perth Pub Crawl 2025-The Full Gig Guide Edition.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We will be singing a men at Work song to
twelve hundred people. The men at work who began the road.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I don't need did the people party in the venue,
but the bands was a wavelong.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Colesy and lisays Perth Pub Crawl at Pinocchio's Magnet.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
House is resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only. Magnet House,
a mecca of dance and diversity right in the heart
of the city.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Our per pub crawl special guests this morning is Peterborg
from Flash Harry.

Speaker 6 (00:25):
Good morning, good morning, thanks very much for having me.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Thank you so much for coming in. Now, Flash Harry
tell us how the band got together.

Speaker 7 (00:34):
Wow, there's two bands actually, so the three of us
in one band and another three in the other. The
other band was a band called the Reserves, and they
happened to have the backdrops and the bits and pieces.
So we all got together and had a manager who
sent us up up north to.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Get our act together.

Speaker 7 (00:55):
Okay, yeah, doo, a bit of learning.

Speaker 8 (01:00):
How about it?

Speaker 9 (01:01):
Could we take it a couple of weeks?

Speaker 10 (01:04):
I love this these sous He's put down your favorite venues.
Here's some great memories. The Generator Raffles, the windsor Floriad.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
Would you like Overflow? You like the Overflow? Smile my least?

Speaker 11 (01:16):
What about you?

Speaker 8 (01:17):
Where were you the Worry Oh windsor the Windsor of course?

Speaker 10 (01:20):
Yeah, I'm sure I saw you at the Charles as
well Pinocchio's.

Speaker 8 (01:26):
But did you have a favorite venue yourself?

Speaker 7 (01:28):
Yeah, I think all of them was great. I did
love the Generator at Morley. That was a riper venue,
and the Overflow, the Overflow was such a huge venue,
and we enjoyed doing the occasional Monday Nook and Busters.

Speaker 8 (01:44):
We had a bloke ringing about the Nook and Busters.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Yeah, and we it was about our only chance that
we could actually catch up with the other bands around
because everyone was working so hard, you know, five six
nights a week playing well.

Speaker 9 (01:59):
Those good guys.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
You know the paper, you would you would sort of
study that thing like my grandfather used to study the
form guide to work out where you were going. But
just almost yeah, for almost every night of the week.
So there was good camaraderie among the bands. Then, yes, absolutely,
still is yeah, and still is yes. Oh, that's awesome
to know.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
It's great.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
You know, there's a lot of us that are still
playing which is which is great to see. And you know,
we all share bands and promote each other, which is great.

Speaker 8 (02:28):
And you're living in mandra now and gigging once a month.

Speaker 10 (02:30):
But I remember when used to do the colts or covers,
and I'm pretty sure that was at the Charles. But
you know, Jimmy's here, He's here this weekend the week
have you opened for him or anything like that?

Speaker 6 (02:41):
We we did.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
We used to have a regular gig and a Sunday
at the Generator, And when Jimmy first started a solo career,
he came over and played the Generator. So rather than
us lose the gig, we had the PA system and
what have you. And he came along and we opened
for him, which was awesome, very loud. I can still

(03:04):
hear it.

Speaker 10 (03:05):
There's no way your lead singer was tie, wasn't it
could getting because Jimmy is so special at.

Speaker 8 (03:13):
Amazing got a.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Trick throat basically, Jimmy, I don't know the medical term,
but that's kind.

Speaker 8 (03:18):
Of that's a technical term that we've come up with.
But you can't, you can't match it.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
He screams, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
Yeah, he's got a unique for us. But so did
ty I could do a Steve Perry crit.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Ah and having said that, you were people said you
did do the best cultures will covers.

Speaker 9 (03:37):
Yes, I'm not just saying that. This is you know.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
Said I'm the person who said that.

Speaker 9 (03:43):
Did you tour overseas at all? Ever? Interstates?

Speaker 6 (03:47):
No?

Speaker 7 (03:48):
No, no, no, no. Like the scene back then in
Perth was was so busy. Yeah, we were literally for
about four or five years just playing in Perth constantly.

Speaker 10 (03:58):
And you've got a great story about meat Low. He
come and stuck in the AFL Grand Final when he
lost the plot.

Speaker 9 (04:06):
This is a bit earlier, a.

Speaker 8 (04:07):
Bit earlier, when he was really firing. He tell us
about him.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
I was back around eighty five. I think he came
over on a tour and we were very fortunate to
be asked to open for him at the Entertainment Center.
So yeah, I won and only time at the Center,
which was wonderful as a as a musician, I'd been
there many times to see many of the bands. I

(04:32):
remember ninety six's first first give in nineteen eighty. Yes, yeah,
there was a door prize which was a door.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Is that midnight or was that the midnight ninety six shows.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
I think I actually think it was Chisel.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
Gave away a door.

Speaker 11 (04:46):
Yeah, the door came.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
Added, Meetlafe go the big fellow.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Look, we'd heard that he'd actually broken his leg prior
to that by the swimming pool over in Brisbane.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
But he carried on, you know, he carried on and
no one knew he had. Yeah, unbelievable. I mean at
the end of the gig, the poor fellow was carried off,
but he did the gig and no one knew.

Speaker 9 (05:12):
You thought only did that in Grandfather.

Speaker 12 (05:17):
That.

Speaker 8 (05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
So does the band still perform together, Peter that I
know you did a reunion tour at the Charles just
got your feet unstuck from the covert Charles.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
Oh gosh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
We got back together again in twenty sixteen, just for
a one off gig. But no, we all do our
own thing these days, you know, ties over in the
Central Coast.

Speaker 9 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
He after he left.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
The band in the eighties, joined a band called the Bombers.
I don't know if you remember the Bombers. It was
Alan Lancaster and Johnny Coglin from Status Quo and John
Brewster from The Angels. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 8 (06:00):
Some big names.

Speaker 10 (06:01):
I wanted to ask you, actually, Peter Borg, so that
if you could collaborate with any Aussie musician, living or dead,
whose top of your list?

Speaker 8 (06:11):
Who are the guys that you idolize or the women?

Speaker 9 (06:17):
Pretty?

Speaker 7 (06:18):
I used to enjoy Matt Moffatt from from Matt Finish
and he passed away in a little while ago.

Speaker 10 (06:25):
What a voice, So Jimmy, he'll be filthy that.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
He has, Jimmy, I mean, that's that one. That's that
box is ticked.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
What about this?

Speaker 10 (06:37):
If you're a DJ okay and you had to do
some songs dedicated to your influences, would there be a
couple of songs there on your playlist?

Speaker 8 (06:46):
Give us give us a song that you know.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Did have to be an Adrian bar.

Speaker 8 (06:53):
He's working it out as we go along.

Speaker 9 (06:57):
Did you have on this theme?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Did you have a favorite band from the pub scene
you know at that time yourself?

Speaker 7 (07:05):
Yeah, I love Midnight Oil, Okay, Love Chisel, love Barnsy.
Obviously there was so many bands back then, you know,
Mental is anything, Radiators, Church, there's so many aussy bes,
Miss Greedy.

Speaker 9 (07:19):
What I mean?

Speaker 8 (07:20):
I noticed you didn't mention Australian crawl. You're not mate.

Speaker 10 (07:25):
I loved James Ray were you talking about? Lisa used
to have stonewashed jeans acid wash. There was all sorts
of shopping at Renoise, shopping at what was that?

Speaker 8 (07:42):
What was that brand?

Speaker 12 (07:43):
You like?

Speaker 11 (07:43):
Stewart memory, Peter Book.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
I'm sorry that Barrow has been able to come out
of his shell when we asked him to go host
this morning. But thank you so much for joining us
and let us know when the next reunion show what
the Charles is. I'll wear my unstickier shoes.

Speaker 9 (08:03):
And here he is himself, Todd Johnstone, good morning.

Speaker 13 (08:08):
Good morning to both of you. It takes me back
to the ear and the fact that you guys are
rebuilding Pinocchio's with magnet houses so good because I go
back to the days of loaded Dice. So I go
back to the days of the frames, perfect Strangers, the Wookies.
The jet that was such a great yerror.

Speaker 11 (08:24):
Wasn't it?

Speaker 9 (08:25):
Certainly was just on the on the haunting me note?
Was that was that in Neighbors? Did they use that
with Jason and Kylie?

Speaker 13 (08:35):
Well, if you go back to Jason and Kylie's engagement
ring moment, yes, Jason was Wow. I can't why is
this coming back to me now? Probably because you asked
you the question.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Yes, it came straight back to me.

Speaker 13 (08:48):
Thank you and thank you for a brigand measure. Jason
was lying aimlessly on his bed daydreaming about a blonde
mechanic that he loved, and he decided at that moment
we called me wafting through his brain cell that he thought,
I think I'll go and chase Charlene. That was there,
It was a part of it. I think I got
about three dollars sixty five extra all time.

Speaker 11 (09:10):
Oh you got anything's better than nothing?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
When and how did you, you know, get fully involved
in the Perth pub scene? When, when did you get
the band together?

Speaker 13 (09:23):
Well, see my history was my first band was It
was at Murdoch University. There was a couple of great
mates and Jeff Price, great guitar player. Of course, there
were so many great mates down there and we sort
of kicked off this little band that was it was
just it was called Reflex Action, it was called Manic D.

(09:43):
We just did all these originals and then someone said
to me, look, the music scene at the time was
very divided. There was originals and there was covers. And
someone said to me, if you want more than petrol money,
you're going to have to do covers. So the next thing,
Manic d became Beavers. We used to play at the
Cotteslow Hotel. Chewhiz that was another that was that was

(10:05):
a venue where you could dance on the floor and
actually eat. Had springs in it because I think the
white antitude at the bars and then from there that
all sort of melted. And then I sort of got
invited to join this group of blokes that were starting
up a band previously Harlequin Tears, I think previously Perfect Strangers,

(10:26):
and then we're just combined and all of a sudden
kapre kicked off, and of course that's I must there
must be something good with my long term memory, because
that was a hell of a lot time.

Speaker 9 (10:35):
Remember what I had for lunch yesterday?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
But I can remember going to see Are Perfect Strangers?

Speaker 14 (10:40):
Yeah, mate, used to go to those Nook and Buster gigs.
I remember they'd be like six hundred girls down the
front and all their jealous boyfriends at the back. But
it was it was a real division between the between
the partners.

Speaker 11 (10:51):
But a big Knights, huge night.

Speaker 13 (10:54):
Well, I don't think those days will ever come back,
you guys, and you know, I'm with great respect a
hold of the new guys. I don't even think you're
old enough to get in YouTube. But I just remember
those days and Perth, particularly Western Australia. Also Perth and
also Queensland had a big, a big system like a

(11:14):
circuit in Queensland that did covers and entertained a lot
of people. But Perth at the time was enormous and
I think that so many people remember those days. They'll
never come back again. Compliments of youtubing and you can
write a song on the end of your bed, put
it on YouTube and become famous. The live scenario has
sort of disappeared. That's why it's really nice that I mean,

(11:36):
I'm still you know, Priece Love and all that stuff
are still doing gigs. They're still bands around, but it's
a smaller environment and it's nice to know that the
live scene is still there, but it's nothing like it
was back in the eighties.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
It's nice to know you're still part of it. Where
can people catch you these days?

Speaker 13 (11:54):
Well, we're doing a gig at the wood Veil on
on Saturday night. We'll at the Paddings and as well
which is good fun. And I think, look, I think
there might be another gig coming out next week.

Speaker 15 (12:05):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 11 (12:06):
Yeah, we've pretty sure.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Speaking of you performing still, we have pretty exciting announcement
to make next Friday night.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
We are throwing a.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Party at the old Pinocchio's, the Olds, and you indeed
will be performing with your band Peace and Love.

Speaker 13 (12:25):
Yes, thank you, I got a bell. I feel very excited.
And the guys in the band, I mean, I really
love this, this brotherhood of music. You know, a dynamic
hypnotics that the Billy the drummer was in there, I'm Tiger.
Johnny was in Nice Tiger. You've got Donnie and guitar

(12:45):
who was in the Cool Bananas and having a great
time there. You've got Mark on bass, he was in
the frame.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
Yeah, and yes, you know, I mean.

Speaker 13 (12:53):
There was always a bit of a star. I love.
I love bumping into people, particularly muse those but all
so bumping into people that fondly remember those days. And
I think the rivalry back then brought the best out
of everybody.

Speaker 12 (13:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (13:09):
To footy teams, they want to play well against one another.
That's probably what created that Those big beer barns where
people wanted to go and see some good bands.

Speaker 14 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, jeez, we had the venues, didn't we, Todd
became other things later on.

Speaker 13 (13:25):
They've all turned into fabric shops or car.

Speaker 14 (13:27):
Park Yeah, all these villages, Todd.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
We're really looking forward to this next Friday night. I'm
going to empty an entire can of taffed into my
hair in honor. I know I've already got enough to
answer for the ozone lab from back then. Just a celebration,
is there time to grow it to thank you so
much for doing this for us at Pinocchios.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
And we'll see you next Friday night.

Speaker 11 (13:56):
Good to catch up mate.

Speaker 13 (13:57):
I'm getting out the likra and the shoulder pads.

Speaker 11 (14:00):
Are talking, all right, Todd Johnson.

Speaker 9 (14:02):
We'll see you there, dear there God, but we will
be singing A man at.

Speaker 11 (14:06):
Work so on to twelve hundred people. A man at
work began the roads not.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Only to the people party in the venue, but the bands.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Was a wave like Clesy Lisses Perf pub Crawl at
Pinocchio's Magnet.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Houses, resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only Magnet House, a
mecca of dance and diversity right in the heart of
the city.

Speaker 14 (14:24):
The man who was fresh out of the Air Force
and on the stages of Perth with the Rookies, Tom
Tapping and Ghetto Made.

Speaker 11 (14:29):
How are you.

Speaker 12 (14:30):
I'm going really well, mate. I'm on the beach in
your poon in Queensland as we speak, and it's twenty yeah,
I know, it's about twenty two degrees and the Ringo,
my best mate, is chasing seagulls.

Speaker 11 (14:42):
Are very good.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
Oh what what breed is Ringo? Oh he's a bit
of that.

Speaker 11 (14:49):
Yeh.

Speaker 12 (14:51):
He's the least talented in the band. And everyone reckons,
everyone reckons he's shooting dorky dough.

Speaker 9 (14:57):
I love that his name's Ringo.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (14:59):
Well, it's half half the temperature here, Mad's eleven degrees
in person and rain around it. Mate.

Speaker 14 (15:05):
We wanted to bring up some memories, of course, and
the Rookies were a band that you played the Raffles
and rock Wells. And as I mentioned, I know that
someone posting this week that video of you guys at
the Warrick Hotel.

Speaker 11 (15:16):
Great memories.

Speaker 12 (15:18):
I hadn't seen. I'd never seen that video until last
night when Carlo Carlo posted it. He threatened to do
it a few times and let that loose, and I
don't recognize the skinny bloke they got up and sang it.
I don't know some well, he wasn't long haired in
those days.

Speaker 15 (15:37):
You're right.

Speaker 12 (15:38):
What many people didn't know is I'd come out of
six years in the Air Force and I've been a
DJ around pers in pubs at places like the Warrick
and the Clovid Aale and mostly the well the Bolger basically,
which was the Sundowner or the stage door or whatever
you want to pull it on any particular week, and

(15:58):
worked with I heard Pete Borg and Todd this week,
and worked with bands locally like the Motors and Trains
and and and the Preludes, so Todd with with beavers
and Harlequin tears and stealing the beam and all those
sorts of bands. And and then while I saw in
the Air Force, I called a excuse the intentional pun,

(16:22):
but a really crappy little band called Spins and.

Speaker 15 (16:27):
And uh and uh and and.

Speaker 12 (16:30):
True story, we we called it s Beens because the
Daily News wouldn't let us let us call it cunning stunts.
Really why yeah, no humor.

Speaker 11 (16:39):
No yeah, and himself or anyone after a couple of.

Speaker 12 (16:48):
Interesting absolutely, well we did get we did get called
worse at various Yeah. Yeah, so so we we sort
of had a bit of an initiation. I was in
the Air Force. We used to play like places like
the Boragoon and we'd go down to some leisure in
in Rockingham or down to Bunbury or Bustleton or whatever.
And also some of our highlight gigs and some of

(17:11):
my best mates from those days we're in the Air
Force and we would play pay night discos every second
Thursday up up at ps and they were wild affairs
and there's some stories I would love to tell, but.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
We'll do enough to show sometimes the name the Rockies
actually is that something?

Speaker 9 (17:32):
Does that come from? Something to do with your time
in the Air Force.

Speaker 12 (17:35):
Yeah? That was so. Gary Grant approached me and he'd
been playing in a whole bunch of bands around the place,
and a Hustler and various other incarnations Bowery Boys at
one stage, and he approached me towards the end of
my time at Air Force and said, look, you're not
very good, but I think you've got a bit of potential.
And so we decided to form a band I went

(17:55):
to my parents placed the dinner one night and broke
the news to them I was going to leave my
government contract in my career and my trade and and
going form a rock and roll band and yeah, and
anyway after they.

Speaker 9 (18:07):
Died job parent aside.

Speaker 12 (18:12):
Yeah, it was very very funny. And and so we
formed and we started auditioning and and and rehearsing and
such and and and we we found a drummer that
could play the drum solos from Power and the Passion
by the Oil.

Speaker 11 (18:30):
Late no no.

Speaker 12 (18:31):
So so Rod Paigels came in and he auditioned with
us and and literally had charted that drum solo right
down to the last cow bell. So we've gone holy,
holy whatever and and yeah, heck, that was the word
I think, and and and so we thought he's a
guy that can play. And then we got Mel McIntosh

(18:53):
on guitar, who you know now that I sort of
never never really saw, right, but he was, you know,
a great guitarists, really terrific guitarists. And then and then
we auditioned a second drummer of bloke by the name
of James Morley. And and so James was sixteen and
audition was a drummer, and as a drummer he was

(19:13):
a really good truck driver, and and you know, so
it is a very funny story.

Speaker 13 (19:21):
He is, Yeah, we.

Speaker 12 (19:24):
Auditioned him after we auditioned Rot and said yeah, mate, thanks,
but no thanks, and he said, and we said, we're
still looking for a bass player. And he goes, I
can play bass.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And.

Speaker 12 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, the ones I like to
hang out with musicians. And so the following week he
comes in and plays the same songs. He got us
to hire a guitar and ant for him because he
couldn't get one, and he plays with the handful of
songs and does backing vocals and all the rest of it.

(19:56):
We go, okay, well your audition is the drummer. How
long you had be in pain bank? And he looked
at his watch. Half an hour and we've gone and
we've gone no, no, no, not today, you idiot.

Speaker 11 (20:08):
How long? Half an hour?

Speaker 12 (20:13):
I've never actually held a base before in my life.
Bigger than I thought. And what he'd done the brief before.
After the drum alldition, he went home, took the top
two strings off his beating up old acoustic learned the
base lines and and fooled off.

Speaker 11 (20:28):
So we thought we're living a full you deserve it.
And then he went on place for the Angels.

Speaker 12 (20:34):
Of course, absolutely, he's still playing around.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
He's a very funny man.

Speaker 13 (20:40):
He is.

Speaker 11 (20:41):
Indeed.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Indeed, since since those heady days are you now you
live over East, I believe you have a Cold Chisel
tribute band?

Speaker 12 (20:49):
I did, I did before I left. Yeah, so so
I did that for a while.

Speaker 13 (20:54):
We did.

Speaker 12 (20:55):
We did an Angels tribute thing around the time that
Doc announced about the brain tumor, and James and Bob
Spencer actually came back to Perth and played in that,
which was great, And so all sorts of were sort
of going, how do you get the Angels to play
in an Angel's tribute show? And you go, I don't know,

(21:16):
you ask him, and and and so we did that
and it was just, you know, the eighties period was
just so good. There were so many good bands around,
so many punters were spots. Yeah, And and the thing
is that when we first born, our first show was

(21:36):
in in autumn, and and we actually spent around that
nine months just to regional w A. We didn't play
a show in Earth for about nine months and we
had the Yeah and and we had the best road
through the world. And I still missed my best mate
Joey and Joey Robertson, I know, his stunt home actually
contact with me last night when he heard about this.

(21:59):
And I'm of Thomas, a little kid sort of running
the mark and run around sort of backstage, and and
you know, Raza and Jabbie and all those guys that
were just it was just so much fun. And you
would go and play like you know, Wednesday night in
Bustleton or Thursday night in Management or whatever it is,

(22:20):
and and really every other band and you know, I
heard your discussion with Todd the other day. Every other
band at that stage was playing sort of Juran Duran
and Spando ballet and wearing Philly shirts. I just I
just wasn't that talented. So so we had to go
to guitar rock and and sort of and I a

(22:42):
massive Acients fan, so so you know, we did angel
shoes on and oils and more Australian rock and it
really stood out from what everyone else is doing. And
when we eventually hit berth at our first regular gig
in town was at the Old Mainland hotel, which was
the time was by John K. Watts.

Speaker 11 (23:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (23:06):
Yeah, and so we I think our first night we
had about twenty people there and fifteen of those were
friends and relatives and five people lost and and and
you know, it just built from there. We sort of
went on stage as if the place was packed, and
you know, within sort of six or eight weeks, we

(23:29):
you know, we had a couple of hundred people there.
And there's Joe's from Rock Exchange card us and said,
how are you getting two hundred people at the mailings? Like,
you know, if you have clothes on or you're not.
The fruit of it was No one's.

Speaker 11 (23:42):
Ever done that.

Speaker 14 (23:43):
Yeah, that three B a sign Tommy, so many made
so many great memories. We can look, we can hang around,
but the radio does allow us for another half hour.

Speaker 11 (23:52):
Yes, awesome, really good to catch up mate. We really
appreciate your time. The sounds like the beach is calling you.

Speaker 12 (23:59):
Yeah. Oh, the reaches always call me.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, popping and visit next time you're into Yeah, yeah,
come and take today.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (24:05):
Well I'm back in back in town in August. My
son's getting married, so we're in a lovely Sam and
so we'll be in Perth for a little while in August,
and yeah, love to catch up with Payed one.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
I'm there around your Tom guys, hanging out for here
to throw the thanks Tom.

Speaker 14 (24:19):
Tom tapping for the rookies as we continue this incredible.
I know this trip down memory lane in a rock
and roll session, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
We would be singing a man at work song to
twelve hundred people and men at work and began the roads.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't need to the people party in the venue,
but the dance was away.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Lock Clezy and lisays pers Pub Crawl at Pinocchio's.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Magnet House is resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only Magnet House,
a mecca of dance and diversity right in the heart
of the city.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Special guest in our Perth pub crawl this morning is
Martin Celia from the Flying Funds of Rallies.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
Martin, good morning, mate, Welcome.

Speaker 15 (24:54):
Good morning guys.

Speaker 16 (24:55):
Yes, I was just thinking this morning Funds. Aurelis was
forty years oh, stop playing. I don't know how that happened.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
It just kind of gave your age away.

Speaker 11 (25:06):
Well you're about seven, so well I started.

Speaker 16 (25:09):
I did start very young, so you know that that
gave me in advantage.

Speaker 9 (25:13):
Is a true because I.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Believe you were about fourteen when you started playing in bands.
Was your first gig at Morley High School?

Speaker 17 (25:20):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (25:21):
It was with some high school friends. And I think
i'd thirteen when I did my first gig at Morley
High Yeah. Wow, so yeah, I still remember that. We
played six songs and and I still remember most of them.
It's like, it's funny where you stuck sometimes you still
carry that through to your career. But yet Morley High
about a thousand people in the school hall there and

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then it went from there that it.

Speaker 9 (25:42):
Really popular with the girls being in a band.

Speaker 11 (25:45):
Is that why you're playing?

Speaker 16 (25:46):
Well, it didn't do any harm.

Speaker 12 (25:49):
Then.

Speaker 16 (25:49):
Interesting thing is by time I was fifteen, I was
playing the Perth pub circuit.

Speaker 11 (25:55):
Yeah you like diesel Ba get stuck in the back
door because you were you Yeah.

Speaker 16 (26:01):
Well yeah, my parents system dropped me off or I
go with one of the older guys in the band,
but they kind of knew me, so I was okay.
But on Wednesday nights we used to do that we're
talking about the girl thing. We used to do this
hotel called the Sterling Arms, Yes, which is in Guildford
and Wednesday night they had stripper on. So we're a
player set, so you know, you get to know it

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on the girls. And I was so much into the
band and the music that I'd go to school next
day and the guys and the girls would come up
to me go, oh, so, who's the stripper on last night?

Speaker 15 (26:33):
How did that go?

Speaker 16 (26:34):
And I go, well, I don't know, but we've mad
a great version of jump and get right.

Speaker 11 (26:41):
That's funny.

Speaker 13 (26:43):
So that's how it went.

Speaker 14 (26:45):
Yeah, But you talk about the girls reaction at school,
but what were the boys like, you know, the few
the tough guys, a bit upset that you're getting early attention.

Speaker 16 (26:52):
Not really because I didn't play up on it. But
I've still got friends from school now who some of
them play, some of them.

Speaker 18 (26:57):
Don't play music.

Speaker 16 (26:59):
And they all said, or the ones that don't play music,
so we will envy you. We wish we could have
done what you did, ye, which I never at the time,
never saw. I just thought it was a normal thing
to do.

Speaker 11 (27:07):
Cool.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
So enter the Flying Fonds of Allies. Like so many
great bands. Half of the band was related, weren't they.

Speaker 16 (27:14):
There's two brothers from the band, Yeah, the brother and
the piano player from Joda Massey.

Speaker 12 (27:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (27:20):
So we started off in a garage in Ballcata, right,
That's where we started off rehearsing. Yeah, And we used
to rehearse a tennis ten o'clock on Monday, and we
rehearsed ten to three or ten to two every day.
And then we got the band up enough till we
could play an hour set, and then we went and
did a support to Mental as Anything at the Raffles

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and got a great reaction, and then we kept crack
the thing.

Speaker 15 (27:42):
And got it up.

Speaker 16 (27:44):
Those days, you had to play a three set gig
in three minutes sets, so you had to have enough
songs and enough content to get you through. So that's
what we did and it just went from there. And
interesting thing with Mentals was I ended up joining the
band years later.

Speaker 14 (27:58):
Oh wow, that's cool. It's very cool, man. I think
of the Flying Ponzis and I think of two words.
I think of fun and I think a party, because
that's what people just rocked up to see you guys for.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
It wasn't it.

Speaker 16 (28:07):
It was a really really good musical band, but it
was also a fun band. Everyone could play well, but
also everyone could perform, and we had the attitude of
like you've got to go to work, make it fun,
you know, and that rubbed off to the audience and
the band worked hard. And yeah, so we had a
really good good run.

Speaker 11 (28:23):
There in person.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
You know what I think of when I think of
do diddy diddy dumb? That message gone off at the shows.

Speaker 16 (28:32):
Yes, I remember we actually recorded that song and I
think I've got a good bit of action and in
the first charts, and I remember doing two videos for it.
I don't know why we did two videos for that
one song, right, have recollection of doing two different videos.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
For it, because it was.

Speaker 14 (28:49):
One of those songs whose I was dejaying at the times,
and it saved you saved your baking so many times.

Speaker 11 (28:54):
I love that song.

Speaker 16 (28:55):
Yeah, it doesn't fail.

Speaker 13 (28:56):
Does we have fun with that?

Speaker 16 (28:58):
And yeah, so that was eighty ninety eighty three to
eighty five, eighty sixth somewhere around there.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Yep, absolutely well.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Everyone loved the shows because full house signs used to
go up before your gigs even began. That's that's would
have to be reassuring to head out onto stage with
What were some of your favorite places to play other
than the Raffles.

Speaker 16 (29:16):
Well, the Raffles we played there every Saturday night eighty months.

Speaker 9 (29:20):
I think to them, well, okay.

Speaker 16 (29:21):
The house and the only problem was when we start
getting a lot of people. You get to the gig
and you can't park anywhere.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
It's still like that.

Speaker 16 (29:29):
Yes, we have to get reserve parking or something. That
was when you know you're doing well.

Speaker 13 (29:35):
Generator was.

Speaker 18 (29:36):
I grew up in Morley, so I was.

Speaker 16 (29:38):
Generator was was a home gig for me home. Yeah,
that was pretty good. And I had a car at
the time, and I remember I didn't get out of
a second year to get there.

Speaker 11 (29:50):
In Petrol.

Speaker 13 (29:52):
Just starting it up.

Speaker 16 (29:53):
And then there's different times then and then the looking
by Rotell the overflowed that was always looky.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
So what are you doing now, Martin? You're still playing?

Speaker 16 (30:03):
I haven't stopped on the last thirty years.

Speaker 12 (30:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (30:08):
I moved to Sydney with a band called Dave Warner
from the suburbs.

Speaker 19 (30:11):
Yes.

Speaker 13 (30:13):
Good.

Speaker 16 (30:14):
So after ponzarelli Is teamed up with Dave and we
were doing gigs, record We recorded a few albums and
then one time we're in Sydney and I thought I'll
just stay for a little bit, you know, maybe a
couple of months and it went onto a year. And
I'm still based out of Sydney because the bands that
I'm with two are out of Sydney Airport, so I
have to be near that. But I got to come

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to Perth all the time, and I get a few
weeks here and they're still such a great place.

Speaker 11 (30:39):
And you mentioned Dave Warner about you.

Speaker 14 (30:41):
You've rubbed shoulders and work with a lot of great people,
including that bike who wrote somebody of those great Skyhawks
Melbourne epics. Greg McCain's from Skyhawks as well.

Speaker 16 (30:48):
Yes, I spent a lot of time with Greg. We
toured together in the nineties as part of the show
and a band, and I see Greg quite regularly and
he is still say.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Yeah, well, when you're in town, come visit. Martin. It's
been lovely to chat to you this morning.

Speaker 16 (31:03):
Bring the memories, yeah, absolutely great memories, good times, really
good times.

Speaker 20 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
And forty yar is on the road. That's going to
be your memoir title, I reckon.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Yes right, yeah, it's about one Martin Celia from the
Flying Fonzarellies.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Good morning, see yeah.

Speaker 11 (31:19):
Thanks mate, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
We would be singing a man at Work song to
twelve hundred people, and men at work began the road.

Speaker 21 (31:26):
Not only did the people party in the venue, but
the bands was a wave lock Colezy andly says Perf
Pub Crawl at Pinocchio's Magnet Houses, resurrecting Pinocchio's for one
night only.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Magnet House, a mecca of dance and diversity right in
the heart of the city.

Speaker 9 (31:41):
Well, gather up, all your scumbags. We're talking to Michael
Parks about the riffs.

Speaker 11 (31:47):
Good morning, morning, good morning.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
Did that take you straight back?

Speaker 18 (31:54):
Oh god, it just makes me feel very, very very
old old.

Speaker 12 (32:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah, nineteen eighty one another maybe, yeah.

Speaker 11 (32:06):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, good, there we go. We did have
that catch up last year talking about when we did
the Perth Pub Crawl series with Perfect Stranger Strangers, but
we thought we'd concentrate on the rifts today.

Speaker 18 (32:17):
Mike, Yes, yeah, lovely.

Speaker 15 (32:19):
Okay, what would you.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Like to know, Well, let's start with the name. Obviously
a riff of musical riff, was it?

Speaker 18 (32:25):
Oh no, it came it came from a movie detail.

Speaker 22 (32:31):
I think that it was about a gang of street
thugs and stuff and Barry Lytton sort of the name
and they were called the Riffs.

Speaker 9 (32:40):
Okay, it was a west Side story.

Speaker 18 (32:43):
Yeah, it was very west Side story.

Speaker 14 (32:45):
Yeah, more more that than Boggies and Widgies at Scarboro.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Parks. I went through the Tragic Music
Box yesterday and tragically I found a gig ticket to
the Angels, Flowers and Rifts Sunday, March one, nineteen one,
Perth Entertainment Center.

Speaker 18 (32:58):
Yeah before yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I remember that.

Speaker 11 (33:02):
It must have been a huge night to play at
the incend what I can.

Speaker 22 (33:06):
Remember, Yes, it was a very huge uh you know,
I mean we used to knock around with those the
boys from the Angels back in the.

Speaker 18 (33:14):
Sort of Jimmy and the Boys days, ye, back in Sydney.
But yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 15 (33:18):
Lots of fun.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
What were the regular haunts around town for the Riffs.
I know you used to play at the Herdy.

Speaker 22 (33:25):
Herdy Sunday session at the SUBI We played there quite
a bit. Down at the Cot that was another sort
of gig Friday nights, oh god where lots of the
Albion Hotel on Sterling Hollway.

Speaker 18 (33:40):
That was a big one for us.

Speaker 22 (33:41):
Yeah, yeah, lots of lots of those places have closed
down or they've stopped having a real shame.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
Yeah, well the lands are worth too much. But is
it weird when you drive past some of the old
venues and then and they're not open anymore.

Speaker 22 (33:56):
Yeah, they're usually retirement diligious fuddy, that isn't it. Yeah,
the Swan, the hotel retirement.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
I keep saying, we've come full circle. I used to
go there for that, and now I can go there
for that.

Speaker 18 (34:12):
Yeah, I'll be going back.

Speaker 9 (34:14):
Tell us about the band's last gig. It was pretty infamous.

Speaker 18 (34:19):
Oh the last gig? Yes, where come on? Give me
give me some remember gig?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
Christmas gig first and last Christmas show was the Red Parrot.

Speaker 18 (34:31):
I think the Red Parent that was.

Speaker 22 (34:35):
I don't know whether that was a reunion gig. It
might have been, might have been a reunion gig or
I'm just trying. I can't actually remember if it was
the last.

Speaker 9 (34:46):
You did have a lot of reunion.

Speaker 11 (34:48):
It was like kissed, just coming back, yeah, like like.

Speaker 9 (34:53):
You were rip, yeah.

Speaker 12 (34:58):
You go.

Speaker 18 (34:59):
Yeah, it was. I'm pretty sure that Red Parrot gig.

Speaker 22 (35:04):
It might have been one where Mikah was on a
We had him hooked up to a flying thing that
where he sort of came.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
In at the red harness that was it was he
trying to be Pink years before Pink. That's incredible moment.
Was there any safety involved?

Speaker 18 (35:21):
No safety No, no, no, what is it?

Speaker 12 (35:25):
N h I.

Speaker 11 (35:25):
Yes, you didn't have to pass in any kind of
test before hid.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
About the red parrot though. It was as I recall
it was, it was a place where you didn't show
a great deal of emotion.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
You just sort of you just swayed. You were you
were all in black and you just kind of swayed
a little from side to side.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
So that must have really woken up the audience.

Speaker 22 (35:45):
Yeah, well, there was a lot of those sort of
special things that people were sort of into back to
those had that sort of glazed look on their face.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
Yeah, you were dancing like a lane from Seidefeld.

Speaker 18 (35:56):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 (35:57):
It's the opposite a special thing, like a special sandwich
before the gig, babe.

Speaker 18 (36:02):
Yeah, basically, Yeah, we won't go into that too further.

Speaker 11 (36:08):
Yeah, parksy, is it good when you catch up with
some of the guys and reminiscences a bit of that
going on and you're all a bit too busy in
the world.

Speaker 17 (36:15):
Well, well.

Speaker 22 (36:16):
Barry Litton, the drummer who started this whole thing off,
he's in New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (36:22):
Yeah, he's over there.

Speaker 22 (36:24):
Glenn White, the guitarist who was from Matt Finish that
we came dragged over.

Speaker 15 (36:28):
The Pirst with us.

Speaker 18 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back in New Zealand.

Speaker 22 (36:34):
Porl Mika O'Har has left the planet, floating away in
the in the ether somewhere. And Marcell Rushford, who was
up we got him in a round nineteen eighty one.
He's to playing in a band called the Venetians. Yes,
and keyboard player. He's selling real estate over in Melbourne,
real estate. I'm really sure.

Speaker 11 (36:55):
Yeah, you know you're doing all right, mate, you're doing well.

Speaker 9 (36:57):
Yes, Actually I think we would. We had a song
played earlier today.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
It was from the eighties and I said a nice
saxophone came in New Clozy.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
You said it was the eighties, the Sacks.

Speaker 11 (37:08):
It was John it was from Yeah take the Sack. Yeah,
Juranne all the band, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I even Spandau
had one with Steve Oh yeah yeah, so many great memories.
We're really glad that you could join backing again.

Speaker 17 (37:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (37:25):
I heard about our big party on Friday.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Yeah, you were super bad. I've heard about this big party,
Pinocchio's Friday Night.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
If your it's time appropriate, so it's six to eight pm,
is it appropriate?

Speaker 18 (37:40):
So sort of seven year olds can go along as well? Exactly, Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
If you're not doing anything, we'll see their.

Speaker 11 (37:47):
Partner and I'll be checking your the door mat just
in case.

Speaker 9 (37:52):
A special sandwich. Michael guys.

Speaker 11 (38:01):
So used to calling in parksy after all, no radio
as well.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Wouldn't be singing a man at work song to twelve
hundred people, and men at work began the road.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I don't need to put people party in the venues,
but the.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Bands was a Wavelonge Colesy and Li says Perth. Pub
Crawl at Pinocchio's.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Magnet House is resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only Magnet House,
a mecca of dance and diversity right in the heart
of the city.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Pub Crawl guests this morning are from the Motors, John
Webster and Dave Cook. Good morning, coming in the Motors
and Formula one car fans.

Speaker 9 (38:35):
Body, what's going on there? How did the names come about?

Speaker 11 (38:41):
I have no idea.

Speaker 23 (38:44):
There's probably our agency that put that together. Which which
Brian Davidson at Focus had had the idea to put
together a Yeah, Dave, Yeah.

Speaker 20 (38:52):
Man, he's a good fella.

Speaker 13 (38:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (38:54):
So there's just a name. It's marketing a little strategypose motor.

Speaker 11 (39:01):
Yeah, absolutely seemed to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mate, I
can't believe this, John, it's we're taking your back. But
by playing that song you just walked in and where
we haven't heard this for a while. What year did
that one come out? And is there a story behind
that song in the Winner?

Speaker 23 (39:17):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been about eighty two. I
think we had that sort of recorded. It was written
by the guy that produced our album, a guy by
named Gary Keady.

Speaker 20 (39:28):
He's a music producer, film producer.

Speaker 18 (39:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (39:32):
Yeahah, one of his little little catalog songs.

Speaker 18 (39:34):
That he had.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
You recorded an album at Planet Studios, didn't you.

Speaker 20 (39:38):
It's yeah we did. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (39:40):
That was nineteen eighty two at eighty two.

Speaker 23 (39:42):
Yeah, it was at the original location of Planet, which
was in Perth because after they moved.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
To sub Yeah, but you guys were playing four nights
a week.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
You were a really solidly performing on that circle back
in those days.

Speaker 9 (39:59):
How exhausting was it?

Speaker 18 (40:03):
It was.

Speaker 20 (40:05):
A full time job we were.

Speaker 24 (40:07):
We were working four nights a week, and we were
rehearsing two days a week on the days off, and
we had one day left where we learnt new material yeah,
and wrote new material, So it was pretty much seven days.

Speaker 19 (40:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (40:22):
Yeah, you've got to be obsessed with you, especially when
you're young and hungry.

Speaker 15 (40:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (40:26):
What about influencers? Who were you guys influenced by?

Speaker 14 (40:29):
Uh?

Speaker 23 (40:30):
Well, pretty broad, I suppose, because the band was basically
a cover band, so we just we followed the charts. Yeah, yeah,
like a lot of stuff coming out of the UK
was good, which is was is exciting and suited our playing.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (40:45):
I think what we were playing didn't necessarily reflect our
own personal choices, but that was.

Speaker 20 (40:50):
That was what we were doing.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
But you were you guys were big on writing and
performing your own stuff as well, weren't you?

Speaker 9 (40:56):
And you must have I feel like at that time
you might have had.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
To push back a bit to be able to do that,
because Perth loved to come about in the eighties. We
really did so, but only because we you know, we
didn't have You probably thought, well, you know, we can
give them both and they will come round to it.

Speaker 9 (41:14):
Did you have to push back a bit.

Speaker 23 (41:15):
Yes, certainly there was always a crowd killer when you're
playing a live gig, just just to bring out one
of your own.

Speaker 13 (41:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (41:23):
I guess we had the concept to just persist with
that so that people would gradually grow to it and
learn it.

Speaker 20 (41:30):
But yeah, it was always a battle.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
And I would have thought with the the you know,
the places that you were playing at as well the
owners of them, they probably wanted you to you know,
play all the covers as well.

Speaker 20 (41:43):
Absolutely for sure.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
Yeah, yeah, John. Can you tell us of Singapore connection
with the band and what went down there.

Speaker 24 (41:51):
My our manager was Jimmy Lee, right, and he was
from Singapore and he had a good mate who owned
the w A Records in Thailand, La, So he did
a deal with them to record the album and then

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we were going to release it in Asia through w
A Records, and we were then going to do a
tour all through Asia right up to Japan as as
support for the release of the album.

Speaker 11 (42:29):
And then.

Speaker 24 (42:31):
W A Records in Sydney found out that an Australian
band had signed with w A in Thailand and claimed
the rights because some sort of corporate rule that they
had and then they seized the tapes for our recording
and locked them in a bank vault in Melbourne. We

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lost access to our own album.

Speaker 11 (42:58):
Frustrated exactly.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
They must have been terribly frustrating to sort of be
the victim or in the middle of this, you know,
sort of suit fight going on as a bit of
a you know what, swinging competition between these two sides.

Speaker 13 (43:12):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 24 (43:12):
And at the same time we were going through that
transition that you were just referring to.

Speaker 20 (43:18):
Where we were trying to play more of our own.

Speaker 24 (43:20):
Material, yeah, to actually support that album that we were
bringing out. So and we'd also been forced right in
the middle of that to change our name to Formula One.

Speaker 11 (43:31):
It was a band in very frustrated.

Speaker 24 (43:34):
In the UK, you'd call themselves the Motors. So it
all started to slow down very quickly at that point.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
Yeah, but frustrating for you guys being creative types and
getting caught up in the business, politics and the rest
of it. Exactly, frustrating and then getting an album warehouse
like yeah.

Speaker 24 (43:51):
Yeah, It's funny how musos are so into their music
that they tend to not be totally aware of what
their managers up to. Yeah, Yeah, we were still consumed
by our own passions and it was all just sort
of falling exactly the area.

Speaker 11 (44:10):
Of yeah, yeah, an expertise.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
So we had some great venues in the in the
early eighties that all the bands were playing at seven
nights a week.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
You could go and see a band. Where were some
of your favorites to play?

Speaker 23 (44:22):
Oh, well, we played played like a ranger. Place that
the overflow was on a Thursday night was a it
was a bust It was pretty huge at the Marley Park.
So back before it become the Generator was just suburban. Yeah,
Charles was a was the Raffles.

Speaker 9 (44:38):
They still haven't cleaned the carpet. The Charles.

Speaker 20 (44:44):
Stick to it exactly.

Speaker 9 (44:46):
Yeah, it was good all those places.

Speaker 23 (44:49):
Yeah, Plus every Wednesday we'd often do like a runout
like at the Kelgooley or Albany. Bunbury was a yeah,
the bustle was a staple.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Actually funny you should mention those were all the regional
sort of times. Did you have an almost famous moment
with an emergency landing in a plane somewhere?

Speaker 9 (45:08):
I mean, that's a great rock story.

Speaker 15 (45:10):
Isn't it.

Speaker 23 (45:11):
It was a funny thing because we're going up I
got a mate who was a was a pilot at
the time and he needed to get get his hours up,
so he said, jump on the plane and fly up
the Jeraldon.

Speaker 20 (45:20):
But we got caught up by a dust storm.

Speaker 11 (45:22):
Terrific.

Speaker 20 (45:22):
Oh and we couldn't progress.

Speaker 23 (45:24):
So we had the land in the middle of some
farmer's paddock.

Speaker 9 (45:27):
And that's so rock and roll, isn't it.

Speaker 20 (45:30):
Yeah, we were.

Speaker 24 (45:33):
The door of the plane came open while we were
flying along and it buckled with the four I wouldn't close.

Speaker 11 (45:42):
Oh my god, so get a bowful of dust.

Speaker 24 (45:46):
I took my shoe off and got the shoelace out
of my shoe and tied it around the handle to
the door. John, that's exactly right. Tied the door up,
then do an emergency in the farmer's wheat field.

Speaker 12 (46:02):
Well.

Speaker 11 (46:03):
Having lived in Meriden and Bunbury early days of radio,
for me, have you guys like you guys come down
and play? It was a big deal in the country
town to have Bunbury is much more of a country
town back there, but the likes of Maridin and cow
it was a really big deal. It was the whole
town will turn out to see a log gig, yeah,
for sure. When the bands would visit from Perth, very cool.

Speaker 9 (46:21):
Well, good times, it was was great.

Speaker 11 (46:24):
Your very fond memories got some too with the Mentals
at one stage.

Speaker 24 (46:28):
Remember really that was the way that the Focused Promotions
put the band together.

Speaker 18 (46:34):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (46:35):
And then they sent us to carl Gooley for two
weeks and said, here, put a put a repertoire together. Yeah,
and your first gig in Perth in two weeks time.
So we went off to cal Gooley and we started
rehearsing every day and then adding more songs and working

(46:56):
in Calgoley until we actually had a repertoire together. And
then we came back and did our first gig at.

Speaker 23 (47:03):
The Herdsman The Herdsman, Yes, that's right, and then spent
the next week after that supporting Metals.

Speaker 24 (47:08):
Anything straight on tour after our first gig Memories, and
then after that we went straight on tour with rene
Ga and did another two weeks with rene Ga, and
of course the whole time we were doing all the
main gigs in front of a thousand people every time.

(47:30):
So by the time we eventually got around to coming
back to Birth and doing what of our own gigs,
they booked us into the carrn Up Tabin Yah and
I remember we drove it. It was just starting to
rain a little bit when we got there and there
was this queue coming out of the tavern across the
car park and then round the corner and down the

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score And that was our first gig after those that's
pretty good and then we knew so it was amazing.
We came back and we were just sort of like
a big band, brilliant.

Speaker 9 (48:04):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Well, it has been lovely to reminisce with you this
morning up on our pub crawl.

Speaker 11 (48:10):
Thanks boys were really good case thanks for having us
all the best.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
We would be singing a man at work song to
twelve hundred people and men at work began the road.

Speaker 21 (48:18):
I don't need to put people party in the venue,
but the bands was a wavelong.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Colesy and lisays Perth pub Crawl at Pinocchio's Magnet.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
House is resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only Magnet House,
a mecca of dance and diversity right in the heart
of the city.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Continuing our Perth pub crawl this morning, it's Tom Jennis
from Clutch Cargo.

Speaker 13 (48:38):
Hello Tom, good morning, guys, how are we good?

Speaker 9 (48:42):
Good Clutch Cargo?

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Now did the name come from the old animated show
Clutch Cargo?

Speaker 15 (48:49):
It did?

Speaker 19 (48:50):
How did you manage to dig that up?

Speaker 17 (48:53):
No?

Speaker 9 (48:53):
I didn't dig it up. I remember going to see you.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 19 (48:56):
Oh right, No, I mean I mean name the name
people always ask people would always ask us, where the
hell did you get that name from?

Speaker 12 (49:04):
It?

Speaker 13 (49:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (49:05):
Yeah, it was just on a whim, just for something,
So that's what we just called it. We ended up
doing a radio show.

Speaker 18 (49:12):
Up at six an hour I think it was yeah.

Speaker 19 (49:17):
Yeah in Bedley and yeah while the band. While the
band was going yeah yeah, playing down at the Queens
is where we started.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
So now, just a fun fact, this is how I
knew where the name came from because when you were
playing Sunday Sessions at the Queens, I was working behind
the bar.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
And I remember, I remember your little monkey.

Speaker 11 (49:37):
Sorry, do you remember your monkey?

Speaker 5 (49:41):
Didn't you have a little little toy monkey? They used
to go everywhere with you with your equipment.

Speaker 19 (49:49):
Yeah, that was Hugo. It was I don't know what
he was. He was a little I think it was
a little like a donkey type of thing, and I
just had a hugel stuck to and I just used
to take it on planes and if there was a
stare seat next to me, I put the belts on
the hosting to come fast.

Speaker 13 (50:07):
Yeah, in order to drinks for me.

Speaker 11 (50:09):
You was traveling the world. You go wherever you guys
and whatever Hugo was right, A monkey or donkeys?

Speaker 13 (50:18):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (50:18):
Tom?

Speaker 16 (50:18):
You yeah?

Speaker 14 (50:20):
Apart from the Queens, mate, did you play many other venues?
How busy did it get for you, guys? Because I
remember that game straight away from Good Guys.

Speaker 19 (50:26):
Oh, the Boulevard Ale House, which because we only just
sort of started to do the Queens as something because
Red Square had called it up and we were just
sitting around and after a few phone calls had just
decided that we'll we'll just get, you know, for the
hell of it, band together because we enjoyed playing together.
So that's when the Queen's things started. We only wanted

(50:48):
to do like one night a week. Yeah, that just
sort of flared out with I think you remember, we
end up doing two nights a week.

Speaker 18 (50:54):
There was like.

Speaker 19 (50:55):
Sunday and a Thursday. Okay, yes, the Sunday sessions down
of the Queens because that was always that was heaving.
I believe it still is heaving.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
It was totally no, particularly when you'd roll out the
recorder on wild Thing. That was an amazing moment of
the night. Red Square was a Rolling Stones band, wasn't it.

Speaker 13 (51:18):
No?

Speaker 19 (51:19):
Red Square was was you know, our Originals other band
you know, through through the eighties when when everyone did
have that opportunity because there was such a good time,
there was a bit of money floating around them, as
you know, the pub scene was was excellent. Yes, so
everyone had the opportunity to to work maybe three four

(51:39):
nights a week, you could afford a single, four way
things like that, and with the money that you that
you made, you could go into Planet Studios or something
like that, record your originals doing like sixty forty you know,
covers original and things like that. Because we enjoyed doing
that and it just became more rockier and it just

(52:01):
sort of wolfed a bit really until we ended up
in Japan, right.

Speaker 11 (52:05):
Okay, Well tell us about Japan. What happened there was the.

Speaker 19 (52:08):
Nineteen eighty nine Yamaha World song Writing Rock Competition can right,
So we ended up entering entering that in the Australian team.
We won the won that, we won the semi finals,
we went off to the Star Club in Saint Kilda,
did the semifinals, won that, went back again, won that

(52:34):
and they had you know judges like John Farnaman and
Red Simon's and everyone there. Was absolutely fantastic. But then
we won that and then our ballot was put in
for the Australasian which we didn't actually play for, and
then we won that. So then we were off to
Japan to play at the at the border camp for

(52:54):
the World Finals.

Speaker 11 (52:55):
You're kidding, that's Redee experience for you.

Speaker 19 (52:58):
That was fantastic. We managed to get a coffee of
us playing and of course we did the song Catalina
that we used at the time and played that on
a hate Saturday.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
All right, okay, Because did you feel the pressure to
have to you know, leave Perth and go east during
this time?

Speaker 13 (53:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (53:17):
Yes, that was yeah, that was that was That was
always there. Unfortunately when when we got back from Japan,
but that took it. It was actually in charge of
Australia and he was like our Brian. He looked at
us and he thought, well, if you guys got more material,
I love it, I love it. I love it, stand
it over. We did that and all that sort of thing,

(53:37):
and then the next thing we found out he just disappeared.
Whether he was fired or or or something, but.

Speaker 11 (53:45):
Money away.

Speaker 19 (53:48):
Yeah, we don't know, but unfortunately it just it just
didn't carry on from from that point. But that was
that was an experience.

Speaker 9 (53:56):
All right, you've been you've been non stop since.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Tell us about Major Tom, Australia's longest running David Bowie
tribute show.

Speaker 19 (54:05):
Well, that's we we couple that up with our Queen's
show with our organization called All Star Showstoppers.

Speaker 12 (54:13):
We do that.

Speaker 19 (54:13):
We do that as well as Blues Brothers Stones. At
the moment we've been using we're doing the cruise liners.
We've been doing cruise ship for about ten years.

Speaker 9 (54:26):
It's become a real thing.

Speaker 12 (54:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 19 (54:30):
It's so much more accessible now because there's that many
ships out there. But we've been fortunate enough and now
we're about in our tenth year. We've only just got
off the last one. We've done seventeen ships this season alone,
so now we've just finished that and then we go
we do a few. You know, Turk Gigs will be

(54:51):
doing the Regal pretty soon with a show called The
Show Must Go On and the Beatles Show, and and
of course the Bowie thing is fantastic. I love doing that.

Speaker 11 (55:02):
Just keep it. But I can't believe you've got to
go on, Hey hate Saturday, do Catalina and not get
gonged by red signs. Well done.

Speaker 19 (55:10):
No, no, it was very good, and we nearly didn't
get started because the girl forgot an idea was she
had this trouble with a black plastic bag and we
were running over time and they're looking at us, going or.

Speaker 18 (55:22):
We go come on?

Speaker 11 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get us on because we're all I.

Speaker 19 (55:27):
Mean, we were mining at anyway. Imagine you could imagine
you're just sweating in your socks.

Speaker 11 (55:34):
Almost all of us were watching.

Speaker 9 (55:36):
We all not almost all of us were.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
Yeah, well it was.

Speaker 19 (55:41):
It was an institution. We would go to someone's place
watching Saturday and then go out.

Speaker 9 (55:48):
Getting ready show.

Speaker 11 (55:49):
Yeah, because countdown the phone the Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Yeah right toom has been lovely to reminisce about the
Perth pub crawl pub scene this morning. I have such
great memories of you and Hugo and wild Thing on
the recorder from the Queens.

Speaker 9 (56:06):
You're donkey that I thought was a monkey.

Speaker 11 (56:08):
That's funny. I got to ye, give me my love, thanks, thanks,
tell me bye, I'll it. Yeah, so many, so many
great memories.

Speaker 9 (56:26):
Do you go with a monkey?

Speaker 11 (56:27):
Whatever, he's a donkey.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
We would be singing a man at work song to
twelve hundred people, and men at work began the roads.
I don't need did the people party in the venues?
But the bands was a wave?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Longe clesianly says Perth Pub Crawl at pinocchio.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Magnet House is resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only. Magnet
House a meker of dance and diversity right in the
heart of the city and from the jets Peter.

Speaker 9 (56:53):
DEENI, Dean, how the heck are you?

Speaker 12 (57:02):
Was it?

Speaker 9 (57:03):
What was it like listening to that on the radio again?

Speaker 13 (57:06):
I thought?

Speaker 15 (57:06):
I felt all right, I remember that one? Yeah, we
did that? Sorry? Sorry? What was that?

Speaker 11 (57:14):
That sounds like a solid rock band to me, mate, Yeah, yeah,
I was.

Speaker 15 (57:18):
Coming away to a CDCs like those good to this
great songs?

Speaker 9 (57:22):
Aren't they take us back to the start? Danny? How
did the band get together?

Speaker 12 (57:28):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (57:30):
Well, I basically put it together with a fentanyl meadow
many and what the band? I was in with my
brother and that we broke. We split up and so
the drummer was was living with us and the guitars
was still here. We're going to go around Australia. So
which is my wife now? And anyway, so I met

(57:52):
up with Fenton and he was saying, you know that,
and I was thinking, that's the same sort of music
I want to play. So I put together in the
landroom and it had a bit of a jam and thought.

Speaker 18 (58:02):
This was good.

Speaker 15 (58:02):
So we just thought, you know, went up to crowded
to put the band together for two weeks, but we
got flooded in and couldn't think of a name for
the band. Like that's the hardest thing in the band
is thinking of a name.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 15 (58:15):
It was Trevor's girlfriend thought what about the Jets? And
we thought it sounds a bit corny. But we had
ringing up. Birth was ringing up with the agent was
ringing up, what's the name of the band? We need
some posters? Yeah, of course played the four people at
the Civic Hotel, four.

Speaker 11 (58:34):
Friends and really.

Speaker 15 (58:36):
Didn't know well yeah, and there was there was some
invited industry people, but yeah, loaded their own gear and
that that went from six gigs a week loading their
own gear and we only couldn't afford anything all the.

Speaker 13 (58:47):
Money whining production.

Speaker 15 (58:48):
Yeah, it just went from there. But honestly, I've been
looking at it. I can't believe the band's been going
for forty five years. Have a band and we did
a show in a long weekend down Ravenswood and like
fourteen hundred people come, sort of band stand.

Speaker 9 (59:06):
Alone, four to fourteen hundred there.

Speaker 11 (59:09):
Yeah, it's a test of time, Dan.

Speaker 14 (59:13):
Some of the venues goes used to play and I
mean you mentioned the Civic there with not that many there,
but then you played the Morley part of the Generator
quite a bit morely, didn't you.

Speaker 15 (59:20):
Yeah. Yeah, and there was a good bands in there
and good fights on a Friday night.

Speaker 18 (59:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (59:25):
Absolutely, the gar Pack that was entertaining. Yeah. Yeah, my
favorite pub of all the time. Yeah, per Per Pub
because we did travel easing like that was is the Rebels?

Speaker 9 (59:37):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 15 (59:39):
Stick to the carpet there.

Speaker 11 (59:41):
Yeah, they used to rate.

Speaker 15 (59:43):
It looked like snow. The carpet block it's been.

Speaker 13 (59:46):
It was all white.

Speaker 15 (59:46):
It was all broken glass.

Speaker 18 (59:48):
They used to break the glass to break the campus.

Speaker 15 (59:51):
Yes, right, the broken glass You know it was.

Speaker 13 (59:54):
It was incredible.

Speaker 15 (59:56):
But all those well, all those venues on now that
I think the Charles is about the only one hanging on.
I do believe the Civics. I haven't lived in Perth
around for twenty years now, so obviously do pop in.
But the last show I hadn't played for five years,
so I'm base put in the case and they stayed

(01:00:16):
in the cupboard for five years.

Speaker 13 (01:00:18):
You want to get it.

Speaker 15 (01:00:18):
Out and basically learned to play again, and singing wise,
you never know how you're going to go and sing
to your rehearse. So we've got the guitarist's averies, the
new line guitaris overies, so they're going to find him
in me in rehearse. And we only get a few
days to rehearse. And then you've got to get out
on stage and there's no like.

Speaker 18 (01:00:37):
A warm up. You just got to do it.

Speaker 15 (01:00:42):
It's quite scary, and you're quite scary.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
You were always, you know, the ultimate professionals too, were
putting on a show.

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Proper sound, proper lighting.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
You had a whole crew behind you, so you didn't
really you never cut corners back in the day.

Speaker 15 (01:00:58):
Well that's what the whole idea was put on a
show something people to look at it like, we toured,
we went to the country towns in wa and he says, well,
but I was brought up in Albury and Perth. Bands
used to come down in the old days with nothing,
and they say it's only a country who gives the out,
you know. And I always had that and I thought, no,

(01:01:21):
why should why not if you go and see a
band in Perth or show you want to see that
show we bring down. I remember, I think one of
the first places where when the band was management and
they hadn't seen a show like that down the Pyrats
and that sort of stuff and just blew away. And
even even like Fittroy Crossing. Can you imagine, I don't
if anyone's been the Fiory Crossing, great little town we're

(01:01:45):
talking about, roll up there with a Fami trailer for
the gear and you know, like two hundred tad light
show and that all. It just blew everyone away.

Speaker 13 (01:01:56):
But that that compromise everyone the same.

Speaker 14 (01:02:00):
Shape given the quality. Yeah, but you speak of that
same hymn book. As Jane Simmons from Kiss always said,
he and Paul always said they put on the best
show they came wherever they go.

Speaker 11 (01:02:11):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah for the fans.

Speaker 15 (01:02:14):
Yeah, well you know why just because you lived somewhere differently,
why should you have a second grade show? So we
try and used to go to a place and say,
take all your table and chairs. How do you rendue? Well,
people's got to sit. There won't be room for people
to sit, They'll just be standing room. Yeah, but I
cannot believe forty five years, forty five.

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
Years, stop saying it.

Speaker 15 (01:02:39):
You are blowing with one original members still left in it,
and it's it's it's still selling out. It's like it's
it's mind blowing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Any memories of Bindu, Oh well, I saw you guys
have been.

Speaker 14 (01:03:00):
What did you glad that would have been doing the
nineteen ninety because Diesel Young Diesel was the headlining you
guys and Nick Barker and the reptiles.

Speaker 11 (01:03:09):
It was a great weekend, four full.

Speaker 15 (01:03:15):
Diesel. It rained when he was on the used they
used to put us on after I love being doing.
We used to put us on after to kick the
player drinking and we went we went on after all
the headline accident and we did eight out of the
tent and yeah, that was great, very well organized. Yeah,

(01:03:37):
there's a lot of bad negativity and that sort of stuff,
but we never ever saw that. We were all the
basically all the games, we did lots of them, their
shows and there was never any travel.

Speaker 13 (01:03:50):
Yeah, never it. They were just professional, I feel like.

Speaker 15 (01:03:56):
But you never had anything you do never had didn't
because people were scared to go to the Raffles Hotel
because they thought it was rough, and then people around
your talk to wouldn't go there. And you know what
I mean, it's just if you've been to the Raffles,
everyone's been. Yeah, there's just memories. You've got me thinking
you went once you.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
Start thinking about great memory.

Speaker 15 (01:04:20):
Yes, you know when you mentioned Peter Dean when I
listened to the Channel nine, Yeah, he stars a story
for you. He used to live belly close And I
was at the boat wrapped down the Hillary was there
and he's pulling his boat out and I went up
to him and I said, oh, you made I said,
I said, I'm Peter Dean and here you going. And

(01:04:42):
he sort of said, he said, right, you're that Peta Dean.
So what it was, I said, I'm getting phone calls
to me, I'm getting phone calls to open a furniture
store and he said, I'm getting shows to play them
at a biking party.

Speaker 11 (01:05:03):
That's yeah. It was a big radio TV.

Speaker 18 (01:05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:05:07):
No, is he still with us?

Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
No, we've lost Yeah. He was the man who used
to read it the final total on telethon before Jeffan. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:05:15):
That's that's another thing is there's so many great that
you said legends and all that, but there's so many
people that we've lost, you know, in music identities and
all that. You know, like not just Perth but all realis.

Speaker 18 (01:05:29):
Yeah, scaris well.

Speaker 11 (01:05:32):
Brian Wilsons overnight night.

Speaker 13 (01:05:34):
Yeah, you know you listen to it, it's like, oh,
not another one exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:05:39):
I remember when I was young.

Speaker 9 (01:05:41):
I remember when we were young.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Don't say forty five years again, Jeanny, But we have
loved reminiscing with you this morning.

Speaker 11 (01:05:48):
Yeah, good to catch up mate.

Speaker 15 (01:05:50):
You will keep keep rocking it. Yeah, and thank everyone
that's come out and seen the Jets and also all
the other bands and stuff and support live music.

Speaker 23 (01:06:00):
It is.

Speaker 15 (01:06:00):
It is getting hard and hard, and I feel really
sorry for the Yeah, up and coming musicians, sit there,
hang in there and what you enjoy.

Speaker 11 (01:06:08):
Beautiful.

Speaker 18 (01:06:09):
Thanks Dani, Thank you, Thank you boys for people the
music a lot.

Speaker 11 (01:06:13):
Thank you all the best.

Speaker 15 (01:06:15):
Yeah, we would be.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Singing a man at Work song to twelve hundred people,
and men at work began the roads.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Not only did the people party in the venues, but
the bands was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
A Wavelonge colesyly says, per Pub Crawl at Pinocchio's.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Magnet House is resurrecting Pinocchio's for one night only Magnet House,
a mecca of dance and diversity right in the heart
of the city.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Wrapping up our per pub Crawls series today, we save
the best for Lasses and o'kay to say that Sue's
Demarchi from The Baby Animals is joining us.

Speaker 17 (01:06:45):
Hello, hey guy, Hello, are you very well?

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
We've had such a wonderful titus as our second pub
crawl Actually so for you.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
It all started with photo play and have you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Read that you still clearly remember your very first gig
at the Cat and Fiddle in Mount Lawley, because well,
you never forget your first. But also you left that
night knowing, without a shadow of a doubt that you'd
found your calling.

Speaker 17 (01:07:14):
I think I knew that that was what I was
going to do with my life.

Speaker 9 (01:07:18):
Yep.

Speaker 17 (01:07:19):
I mean, you know, you're so sort of dumb and
blind to everything at that age. You just got full
of opportunity and you kind of think everything's possible and then.

Speaker 12 (01:07:30):
Ed it is.

Speaker 17 (01:07:31):
But that was the moment where I just thought, oh,
you know, I love this, this is kind of my thing.
I'm going to you know, I'm going to have.

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
A go at this because you're seventeen.

Speaker 18 (01:07:43):
That is.

Speaker 17 (01:07:43):
I was seventeen in my first band, and I was
with Photo played for two years, and I just kind
of it wasn't like a you know, I kind of
just always loved guitar and I always loved singing, and
so you know, that was sort of the beginning of
it all. That was your first time I realized I
wasn't nervous it all the first gig. It was the
second gig.

Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
Ah, yes.

Speaker 14 (01:08:03):
And was it the applause? Was it applause in a
public places? It was part of that thing that got.

Speaker 17 (01:08:08):
It's all of it, It's all of it. Yeah, it's
the idea of the band seeing for me, could I've
done solo? Ye, I've done the band thing, yep. And
the ban thing is just always I just don't like
the solo thing. I much rather be in a group
of people just hanging out. Yeah, solo stuff is just
this more pressure. It's boring. It's just not into it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Like it's more fun in that numbers definitely, it's funny numbers, yeah, and.

Speaker 14 (01:08:36):
Having a lot of fun. But I'm the nerd who's
got twelve boxes at home in my garage of old
Rolling Stone magazines and I found the one of you
from thirty three years ago, the front of the Australian
Rolling Stone Thank You very Much from June of nineteen
June of nineteen ninety two, is a great photo of
your mug.

Speaker 9 (01:08:51):
Oh, that is spectacular.

Speaker 14 (01:08:53):
How did you go all along with fame and people
wanting to take your photo? Did that sit well with you?
Especially in the babyimals got big as well, But even
in the early days, yeah, I'll.

Speaker 17 (01:09:03):
Tell you what, though, we weren't really famous. I mean
we weren't. We were sort of well known, but we
didn't really have that kind of super same that people have. No,
we just and also, to be honest with you, when
that that album was big and the band sort of
blew up, we were away touring. We came back after
a couple of years. We toured after that in Australia,

(01:09:25):
like we toured after that album went to number one
and then I don't know. I think also that's the
other reason I've been in a group is kind of
you just sort of together, are you? We say, in
on off our, it's like you do this, you get in,
do the gig, you get you know, on off out,
we sort of don't hang around. To be honest with you,
We've got fans from back in the from the very

(01:09:48):
beginning that are still with us.

Speaker 9 (01:09:50):
Absolutely.

Speaker 17 (01:09:52):
It's wild. Yeah, We've We've done the whole journey with them.
So I feel like it's a real honor. And people
come up and want to do a photo and they
love the music, and that's really what it's about.

Speaker 13 (01:10:05):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
That's the quality of the songs. That's the thing.

Speaker 17 (01:10:07):
I guess it is. I hope it is. I think
the song is what carries any success in a in
a band.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
You know, some of those people all have been there
at the Cat and Fiddle on that very first night.
What what were your favorite venues around town to play
at other than that one.

Speaker 15 (01:10:23):
Ah?

Speaker 17 (01:10:24):
Wow, there was a lot. And that's so we were
so lucky. There was a lot of venues. We'd do
the Shenton Park. We do Blazers. Gosh, what was the
other one? I mean, we do the UNI. They used
to do Uni. Yes, I'm shown to the UNI.

Speaker 9 (01:10:37):
They were great.

Speaker 17 (01:10:39):
I mean that was the thing. We do the UNI
show on a Friday lunchtime. We'd pack up. This is
in fiery pack up. Then we'd go and do the
Shenton Park three sets, mind you. Then we'd pack up
and we'd go do Blazers.

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
I loved going to the Shenton Park. It's it's a
time at home now.

Speaker 11 (01:10:58):
So I feel like I've come on Nicholson rove Ye
last week and I would live there later.

Speaker 17 (01:11:08):
Later I would go there. Yeah, I remember, actually I
think I remember. I was there a few years ago
over ye. But you know the other gigs. There was
Hernando's Highway, there was there was the Ones down and
I got electrocuded at the ab H on Sunday Sunday session.

(01:11:29):
I got a kicked back from the mic because I
went on stage with no shoes. Floor a little there
was a bit of a dodgy connection. As soon as
my lips hit the mic, I got thrown back into
the drum kit and had a big burn. There was
a burnmark around the mic. Yeah, oh yeah, it's all

(01:11:51):
happened part of the show. Yeah, I thought it was
the original.

Speaker 15 (01:12:00):
I love it.

Speaker 14 (01:12:00):
But would there have been many times you played a gig,
well multiple gigs with photo playing. The next morning you're
trying to count those annoying orange twenty dollar notes at
the Aroni Bank.

Speaker 11 (01:12:09):
Did that happen a bit?

Speaker 17 (01:12:10):
Oh my god. Well, I swiftly left the bank. I
only left school because my sister was working in the bank.
My dease is working in the bank. And then Mum
and dad said, yeah, you can leave if you want,
but you have to go work. So I got this
job and I lasted a year. I think I quit

(01:12:30):
before they were going to buy me, and I don't
I was terrible. I was terrible at that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
But yeah, well, Denise, she's also a musician, still performing
around town plenty.

Speaker 9 (01:12:43):
Was there ever much rivalry between.

Speaker 17 (01:12:45):
The two of you, There was a little bit. It
was funny. It was like we were always so supportive. Yeah,
but then we were. I mean, I do take account
a little bit of accountability because I dragged her into
it a little bit. When we were doing we did
the kids this cup band for attle while and that
kind of started her in the band stuff. And then

(01:13:08):
and then she came over to Sydney and everything did
all her other stuff. But there wasn't rivalry. It was
more like a one upman ship. It's like, oh, yeah,
you did that. Oh you know, I know I did
that to you. Yeah, but that's no, it's a healthy
kind of sisterly.

Speaker 15 (01:13:25):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:13:26):
We love that.

Speaker 17 (01:13:28):
You know, we get to i mean do stuff together
that we started sort of a little bit together. We all,
you know, we're back in the Kevin Pete, Trevors Spence
to Day's. Denise did a lot of work with those guys.
She's really talented and I you know, I love her
voice and I love singing with her. And yeah, it's great,
it's great. We have a lot of stories.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Well, you you went from Perth a pub scene to London,
moving to London in the mid eighties to pursue a
solo career. On a scale of one to ten, how
scary was that?

Speaker 17 (01:13:58):
I mean, see, that's the thing. Didn't really know what
I was in for until I sort of did it. Yeah,
I was just no, No, I wasn't scary. I was excited.
I was like, yeah, bring it on.

Speaker 12 (01:14:10):
I was.

Speaker 17 (01:14:11):
I was a bit scared once I got there. Yeah,
but that sort of didn't last long. I had actually
a great I've fell into Peter Lister Todd giving me guidance,
so he was the guy that was always there. It's
actually still in my life. We still see each other,
stay in touch. Peter Lister Todd was was my manager
at the time, and he was always a real guide

(01:14:33):
and kept me sort of in line because I went
crazy in London. I just went off like I was
twenty one. I think I put it was the eighties,
eighties living it. I had a record deal with EMI ridiculous.
It was mental. Yeah, I can't even need it take

(01:14:55):
a whole show. I can't. It was so great.

Speaker 9 (01:14:59):
It was so much awesome.

Speaker 17 (01:15:01):
I put three singles out in four years, Like what
is that with the record label?

Speaker 15 (01:15:06):
Nothing?

Speaker 17 (01:15:07):
But I had a lot of fun.

Speaker 11 (01:15:08):
Yeah it's not prolific, but.

Speaker 17 (01:15:10):
It's yeah, we're still not that prolific.

Speaker 9 (01:15:16):
We're still having fun.

Speaker 14 (01:15:17):
And then of course it was it was home, but
it was baby animals, as we talked about saying, not
that famous, but I guess you didn't have enough time
at home to be hassled on the street that much.

Speaker 12 (01:15:28):
So she ran not much.

Speaker 17 (01:15:29):
We don't we don't we you know occasionally, but yeah,
you know, yeah, it's always like in a good way.

Speaker 12 (01:15:36):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:15:36):
It's not like a crazy yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:15:38):
But Baby Animals Baby, that debut album just it did
blow up. I didn't know. There's so many great great songs.

Speaker 17 (01:15:43):
It blew up. Yeah, it was mental. I couldn't. I
couldn't father that. You just kind of got to go
along with it all.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
As was the way though, of course, the way we
were situated with us scene back then in the in
the late eighties, you had to you kind of had
to move to.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Sydney to do it.

Speaker 17 (01:16:00):
Yeah, there was no labels in person, and you know
what was really I was very lucky because I got
I kind of got involved with Kevin Peek and Trevors Spencer.
Did you know all that story. They were Australians who
lived in England for twenty years before that, and they
Kevin Peak was in Sky right wonderful, he's no longer

(01:16:21):
with us, but they started a Woman Records, so I
had a sort of a little taste of a labeling
sort of thing. They saw a video that I had
done in Photoplay and then we got talking and I
did a little small deal with them, and that's how
I got the deal with the m I in London
because they're all of their connections with there. But I

(01:16:41):
did a lot of recording with them. Kevin had a
studio up in Rolling Stone, an unreal beautiful property and
a gorgeous little studio location for it. Yeah, gorgeous location,
you know. And I did a lot of studio work there.
So they were really helpful in so learning just how
to record, Like I didn't know how to you know,
get how to get up to the mic and not

(01:17:04):
to move too far back and all that kind of
technique you know, not to get not to get and
actually no, but Pharoplay taught me everything. Yeah, I needed
to know about being in a band, you know as
well in those first two years.

Speaker 14 (01:17:18):
Yeah, so as I used to steal my sister's foreigner
Pink Foyd and Joe Wolsh records.

Speaker 11 (01:17:22):
Which ones are your brothers did you steal?

Speaker 18 (01:17:24):
Do you remember Budgy Hawk Quinn?

Speaker 17 (01:17:27):
It was ten years after led zelin ye Alan Lee
all of all of the English seventies kind of of
an ever.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
Yeah, everyone ever got a little guilty you know.

Speaker 17 (01:17:45):
That was the combo. Yeah, yeah, that's great And and
you know I used to I used to practice Echo
Beach and it was one of the first songs I
learned on guitar.

Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
Yeah, I was in my final year school in eighty four.
That song was Yah.

Speaker 17 (01:18:04):
Yes, yes, we would do we would definitely doing.

Speaker 9 (01:18:07):
Our job was very boring. I'm an office clerk now, yeah,
the first girl.

Speaker 17 (01:18:14):
We should do that.

Speaker 11 (01:18:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
Baby Animals has continued to tour up until this day,
and you know it's one of WA's Australia's most successful exports.
Did you ever think back at the start that you
would still be touring and performing and loving it as
much as you still do?

Speaker 17 (01:18:28):
For I hoped I would. I don't think I really
I hoped I would, but I don't think I thought
that at the time. I thought of probably burn out
or whatever. But I just every time I walk on
a stage, I'm still really grateful. I did a show
on the weekend in perfect and in Northern at the

(01:18:49):
Ale Festival, which was unbelievable. By the way, I had
no idea to Hot Air Balloon Capital were there and
Frank and Eddie were there, and they were the proud
men Mary Barren and so that was really a fun
little we didn't Yeah, it was. It was great. But
we're good now, we're all.

Speaker 11 (01:19:08):
Yeah that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
That's good.

Speaker 11 (01:19:10):
Yeah yeah yeah from from that first album, first couple
of albums.

Speaker 18 (01:19:14):
Regional Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:19:16):
But so I never thought that, you know, I'm sixty
one now. I didn't think I'd still be doing it,
but I I you know, I look at people like
Suzi Quatro and yeah, I love her because she's she's
always been an inspiration to me. And I get to
play with her now.

Speaker 16 (01:19:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:19:32):
Yeah, and we call Leatherdero.

Speaker 17 (01:19:35):
I went into her addict. I went into I stayed
at her house in England. She took me up to
her ego rooms. I had a cheer in my eye.
I went up and I was like touching the leather
and her old leather jumpsuits the room in the attict.

Speaker 9 (01:19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:19:54):
Weew which in the seventies now, And we interviewed her
last year and she told us about Elvis had a
crush on her.

Speaker 17 (01:20:00):
Tell us all, yeah, she's got such a great story. Yeah,
such a great woman.

Speaker 9 (01:20:07):
And she's a great storyteller.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
Well, Marchie you keep telling your story as well, and
I want to hear that that duo with Denise of
Echo Beach and that's for sure.

Speaker 17 (01:20:18):
Yeah, we've got a new album coming out this year,
so that's what this year's all finishing. The album are
prolific Baby Animals, quality quality.

Speaker 9 (01:20:29):
Thanks for Perth Pub Crawl so to Marchie.

Speaker 17 (01:20:34):
Oh guys, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure.
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