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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cindy Lauper.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
She's bringing her show to town at the RC Arena
April twelve. It's the last time. It's the farewell Tour.
Tickets are available through ticket Tech and Cindy's with us. Now.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Good morning, good morning, How are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
God, we're going it's going good. It's going good.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
No, you're coming.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, Perth is excited because you're on the way. It
is your farewell tour. What made you decide now is
the right time to stop?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Because I can do this show. Well, yep, that's why.
And because my voice is in good shape, and because
you know the songs. My songs are not easy peasy,
you know. And I just want to be able to,
you know, sing and be proud. You know. I'm strong now.
You know, you don't know what happens. And I'm seventy one,
(00:50):
you know, so you don't know in a couple of
years what you're going to be like. I have no idea. Yeah,
so I thought this was good to do now, and
then I'll go and finished work and girl, Yeah, and
then I finish working, girl, and I have one other project,
and you know I want to see my family.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, yes, of course I think that's fair enough.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Good to the voice you still got that fellows very
difficult songs to sing. But city are you're a gym person,
how do you steinshak the rest of the body.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, you know, first you have to do your PET
and then after you do you PT. You are going
to do the waight, but I try and do the
way to a little yoga. It takes like the PT
takes a long time. Sometimes that could take an hour,
and then from there you do you have to also
do aerobics because you need the vegas nerve system, and
(01:39):
you know, after you finish, I would say it's like
two hours thing. And then the singing is an hour
and a half. And then you go to work and
you do the sound check and then you have to
warm up a little, won't back down, you know, and
then warm up again before you go on stage. You
know this way you're an athlete when you do this.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's a lot of prep.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, it's like a guitar play never changes the stream.
How good do you think that guitar's going to sound?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Right? Yeah, exactly. Now we we read that preparation for
a show.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
After you've done all that, then there's the preparing backstage
in your in your room.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And we heard that you always listen.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To female artists before going on stage. Who's on your
your current playlist, who you're obsessed with right now?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well it's not me. I play it for the arena, okay,
Well everybody, you know, older artists, younger artists, the one
that I find, you know, on the streaming service that
are used. And I also, you know, I look for
(02:50):
stuff and listen and usually I can't mention names of
things like Spotify things like that, but that's what I
you know, I go and see what new music there is.
It listens to you know, Oh, this is a cool
female singer. I think that's the first time I heard
Chapel Rome was on Spotify and it was last year
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and I was looking for, you know, new female singers.
You know, I think it's really important to you know,
promote new artists and especially female singers because I'm a
female singer, so you know, why not. And the Veronicas
are going to be with us, and it's going to
be a lot of fun. You know. It's actually a
(03:33):
really good celebration. I mean, the people that come usually
to our shows, they get dressed up. We even sell
these wigs. We close wigs, so anybody but join, join
the party, and all the proceeds go to the girls.
Just want to have fundamental Rite fund which helps women
or promote, you know, organizations. We donate to organizations that
(03:58):
for women's health, they take room, heelth and and their
civil rights. And that's what we do. And and you know,
it's been it's been working out good. We got even
a new T shirt, you know, right, And I think
that you know, in the spirit of hey, rock and
roll can save the world, I think, you know, that's
(04:19):
it's the wonderful community to be part of, and so
we help each other, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Also, some footage of a race show people were going
off and then the camera panned around. There was a
guy who looked like someone's dad wearing one of the
blue wigs, and I went, good on you, dude.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Everyone.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
That's the whole thing that's so wild. There's like a
lot of different age groups like this. It's kind of
like a little haven for everybody, and they just we
come together and sing, dance, laugh, cry, you know, and
usually people always leave really happy, and that's the most
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important anything. You gotta have a little joy, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, can we talk about girls just want to have
fun for a moment? The song originally written.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
By has but you changed some of the lyrics to
put your spin on it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
How did that go down? Did that? Was that? Was
there a fight to be able to do that or
or was it okay?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, the whole thing was that Rick cand be
a storm and one of them was girls just want
to have fun? But you know guy wrote it, and
also Robert Hazard if you listened to his work, and
he was really doing very well, and he did a
kind of for me. It was kind of like, yes,
(05:41):
that was my doging ping used to pel, but he's not.
It's just wishful anyway, Yeah, she she heard a dog
as you know, probably pongo go say the puppy snow.
(06:05):
I don't know anyway. The people that come are all
different agents, and everybody comes to have a good time,
and you know we uh, it's it's for me. It's
it's been an interesting show. You know, it's almost the
show itself took on its own thing, you know, and
it's amazing to be part of it. But yet I
(06:27):
was able to keep the intimacy between the audience and us.
You know that we're still connected. Because sometimes if you
have a big show, it's bigger than you, you know,
and it's just a big show. And so I was
worried about that, but it really turned out well and
I partnered it up. I had a you know, and
(06:48):
why I didn't do it before, But I got a
wonderful creative director named Brian Burke who did a lot
of great stuff. He also worked and was trained by
the creative guy from circus Ola and worked with under
him for twelve years, you know, before the guy passed,
and you know, when you start to talk about creative stuff.
(07:12):
We went to museums and there are collaborations. It's like
an artist collective because it's performance art. So there's a
collaboration with Yayuei Kusama, there's a collaboration with Daniel Wurtzel
that it's very inspired by Sonya Delaney, and there's a
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lot in it that is visual and or you know,
that was important to me, using color, using visuals because
when I came out, that was so important to me.
Then to because it was great to be part of
a generation where you would no longer just listen to
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me as if you would watch it, and to be
part of that was amazing for me, you know. I
mean got to say when I first came to Australia,
the head of the company was a Dennis Handling. Yes,
he was like at that time in nineteen eighty three,
(08:13):
kind of nutty, and came up with this thing that
my press person was going to drive to the airplane.
And it was strange then too, because remember in those days,
they sprayed with you know, oh my god, don't breathe,
he's going to draw now, and then you had to
(08:36):
go and I had to put makeup on, and then
they sprayed with the pesticides. And then I went down
the stairs and there was Vivian I think that was
her name, and she had a Cadillac and they said
to me, yeah, and you'll go in the Cadillac and
you'll drive around. And I guess girls just want to
have fun. They had come out before I got there.
(08:57):
But it was it was kind of me because I
was like, oh, you mean, like one of those old
famous Hollywood movies, So just pretend you're famous. I could
do that. I put on my son glasses and you know,
but we did all kinds of crazy things, and you know,
I went to Japan and Australia where hey, before I
(09:18):
went to back home to America, you know, that's what
that's what was so wild that I kind of broke out.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Fishos know, was Mully around because he was he was
contributing too.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, he was awesome, and he also had these like
wild sets for me to perform on, and it was
it was really great. I mean, he was really great.
Back then. It was like it was an unbelievable experience
and world women, I mean, you had to keep up.
But it was also you know, it was funny, always laughing,
(09:56):
you know, because in the eighties, in the early eighties,
the you got to understand like a lot of groups
came from Australia to America. Like the first time I
saw Chrissy from the Divinos, Oh my god, all the
boys in town, my freaking heart stuff, Oh my god,
(10:18):
oh my god, you know, because we would stand in
front of MTV like like zombies, like idiots, looking at
one answer to the other after the other, and it
was so amazing. So to then actually be part of
that was like pretty fantastic and amazing for me because
I love art, I love color, you know, and the
(10:39):
people that I'm collaborating with now, like it's not exactly
a collaboration with going joint is because we couldn't really
get hold of her people, but the fact that she
wore her art there was a whole movement. You know,
I love art history and I love music history, and
I you know, I actually studied sometimes. So I was
(11:00):
so enamored with what she did and how she did
like album covers, she did Broadway shows, she did interior design,
but it was all her art. And you know, it
wasn't just paintings. It was first it was clothing, and
then I thought about you know myself. I first saw
(11:21):
her work in the Morgan Library in Manhattan when we
went to see this exhibit with this Polish poet who
kind of talk her and Matisse and Picasso into doing
these illustrations with his poetry, you know, and I'm looking
at back on that's just like our album covers. You know,
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that's just because that's what we were doing. And so
the idea of mixing the media's and also having Brian
on board, who was also into art in that way,
was ordinary. It was now, this is what I always
wanted to do, So I get to do it. If
(12:05):
I'm gonna say goodbye. At least let me say goodbye
as myself. And what I always dreams the kind of
doing you know, so I think.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
The other way.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, like a modern day.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Cindy.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
There's not much I love more than a good documentary.
And The Greatest Night in Pop is one of the
best I've ever seen. It was such a such an uplifting,
wonderful thing to watch. But how funny the scene where
Quincy Jones is trying to work out what's that sound?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What's that noise? And it's your prices?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Now I know. I know. The thing is I had
just come from the American Music Awards as the line
of what he did was amazing because if you think
about it, like for me, I talked them into letting
me do the set, but then they wouldn't let me
really do it. I had to go with the carpenter's
union and holds up every shoe where I wanted it
(13:05):
so they would use the staple gum because apparently they
did not want me using any heavy perial. So I said, okay,
and we've worked out with this woman. Pat Birch, who
was the chore is a choreographer at I met her
doing Friday Night Live. I actually never got to do
Saturday Night Live, but what the heck? Still time, so
(13:31):
I still met still met her and we did this
whole performance starts thing, and I for the performance painted
my hair and it was dry, and of course it didn't.
I didn't think it looked good. And when we finished
everything we weren't. We had to go to rate from
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the performance to the we are the world, you know
where it was and where being filmed, and so my
outfit without any you know, accessories, because you know, everything's
about the accessories, Yes, did not look so good. And
originally I had like an Italian vintage Italian waiters jacket,
(14:15):
which was a little bit you know, Michael was wearing
his like drum majorrette jacket and I was like, it's
too much. So I sid the jacket off and had
the jewelry on, thinking okay, just the work. But you know,
I didn't think about the noise because I was thinking
about the visual. Then when I realized what it was,
(14:39):
it was so ridiculous. Bea was so bad because they were.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sting amount of time with so many stars in the room. Cindy,
we talked about girls you want to have fun with
Rob than like Rob hesitatedly, but Rob Hayman was another
Rob who wrote a beautiful song Time after Time from
the Men from the Hooters, and he sang on it too,
didn't they. You've you've got some songs that just have
stood the test of time after time.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well you hope for that, don't you? Just you don't
want to, like I never wanted to make like just
have a hit record. I don't want that. I want
the music that people could listen to over and over.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It wasn't like if you want to know what it
felt like in the eighties, so you could always listen
to She's So Unusual and it kind of had that flavor, yeah,
but it was also music that was a little timeless.
I didn't want to just have anything. I wanted it
to be, you know, when I was growing up, all
the music that we listened to, including you know, like
(15:39):
look what's that Elton John time you dance? You know,
when you when you wandering and you don't know who
you are yet or what or even why you were born,
and the record comes on and it just comforts you
and you just sing along with it like chanting, and
it gets you through now that's the thing that you
(16:01):
want to pass on. I mean, the Beatles did it,
John Mitchell did it, everybody did it. So you know,
we stand on the shoulders of the people that came
before us, and then the people that come after us
stand on our shoulders. And that's how it is. Right.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, can I tell you, Cindy, you know when you
finish high school, you have a song.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
There's a song that sort of is the it's just
known as your songs.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, I've finished high school in nineteen eighty four. I
went to a girls' school and our song was Time
after Time, and you know, we all sang out of
the graduation at the end of school. And to this day,
whenever I hear it, it makes me think of, you know,
that whole wonderful sort of end of school experience and everything.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So thank you for that. We can't wait to see
you here.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
With the Varonasics, and then we'll see you in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yes you're gonna be.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
We're gonna be in crossed.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Thank you, good bye, all right bye.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
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