The History of Sound continued this morning and we’re now in the 80s with the birth of the Compact Disc. Nathan Smith from the National Film & Sound Archive told Clairsy & Lisa how these shiny, seemingly indestructible discs were set to revolutionise how we listened to our favourite albums.
Clairsy & Lisa opened the phones to find out what your first or favourite compact disc was.
Clairsy told Lisa about the current issues between the East Fremantle Football Club and the local council regarding their traditional logo and their newly renovated oval and building.
Author Liane Moriarty called Clairsy & Lisa to tell them about her new novel called Here One Moment. Liane is probably most famous for writing Big Little Lies which was turned into a TV series starring Nicole Kidman.
In The Shaw Report, Robbie Williams looks like he’s re-igniting his feud with Noel Gallagher & The Joker gets it’s film festival premiere to mixed reviews.
It’s movie day and Ben O’Shea was in to review the very long-awaited sequel to Beetlejuice, creatively titled Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, He told Clairsy & Lisa if it has been worth the wait and of course gave it a score out of five stars.
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It's the new movie we've ben Ochet.
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Continuing our delve into the history of sound. We've moved
from the phonographic cylinder, to vinyl, to cassette tapes to
arriving today at the Compact disc and joining us today.
Assistant Curator at the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia,
Nathan Smith, good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Good morning, Hey, how are you thank.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You so much for joining us?
Speaker 6 (01:04):
No, no, no problem at all.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Who invented the earliest known version of the compact disc, well,
the early known.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Version of Combatist was created by a guy named James T.
Russell back in the sixties, and he actually had a
bit of a patent for it in nineteen seventy. It
wasn't until Sony and Philip actually kind of got a
hold of the pattern and actually really developed it into
kind of what we know it is today. But it
(01:35):
took a little while for James to kind of get
his dues for creating the city, but he actually did,
and he you know, I think they ended up paying
him back in the eighties. Yeah, well, I actually think
he's still alive. I think he's like ninety two or
ninety three.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well, how does the technology work make because these shiny
silver discs and the silver part important.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Oh yeah, absolutely. So obviously the disc was kind of creator,
so it's basically an evolution of like laser disc technology.
And then obviously, you know, the music is kind of
recorded as a digital kind of file and this kind
of gets mastered and then it kind of essentially gets
etched onto the disc into like ones and zeros, and
(02:25):
then the laser is able to kind of pick up
those ones and zeros. And kind of decode it back
into what we kind of know today. But the reason
why CDs kind of became so popular because it was
all about kind of the evolution of technology and you know,
kind of having like the better quality kind of files.
(02:46):
When James actually originally created the technology in the sixties
and seventies, he was actually a classical music buff. Yeah yeah,
and he was just a little bit sick and tired
of the wear and tear his CDs, so he wanted
kind of to kind of create something that would kind
of remove that wear and tear. So we kind of
(03:07):
created this like contactless type listening device. Yeah yeah, so
you so you were in theory you would never have
to touch a CD. CDs were kind of kind of
then presented to the public in you know, the early eighties.
I think they kind of first got released in like
nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty two. There's a few different
kind of theories as to kind of what the actual
(03:29):
first CDs were actually created by some of the really
big popular ones that really popularized the content was obviously
Brothers in Arms like distraits. They kind of got released
in nineteen eighty two and went on to have huge success.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You mentioned Phillips and Sony joining together to get to
get this out. I mean they were certainly were then too,
absolute juggernauts of the audio world. They must have they
must have known they were absolutely one hundred percent onto
a winner.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Oh, totally, absolutely they were onto a winner. I mean,
obviously it was all about quality and just like the
evolution of kind of formatsch I mean, as you're kind
of previously discussed in the previous episodes, obviously starting with
cylinders and then going to vinyl, and then going to cassettes,
and now we kind of found ourselves with this shiny
(04:22):
kind of compact disc which was actually really cheap to
kind of manufacture. It only costs. The wholesale cost of
a CD back in the eighties was about a dollar
dollar fifteen, and they were selling I mean, I don't
know about you guys, but I remember CDs being relatively expensive. Yeah,
(04:44):
they were like to buy a brand Yeah, to buy
a brand new CD back in the nineties was twenty
thirty dollars, but they only cost about a dollar maybe
two dollars to make the wow moment, so that they
were making them.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Absolutely, I still think that a lure of this the
shiny silver.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It was like a shiny thing something from space nature.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, shiny disiness.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But there was also too like having you know, like
it was like labor technology. It's cool. You know, everybody
wanted a CD player and they want that cheap either.
They were about one thousand dollars back in the eighties
for a really expensive vinyl was about fifteen hundred. Generally speaking,
they kind of decreased about three to five hundred dollars. Yeah, yeah,
(05:34):
and they kind of did get cheaper as kind of
time went on.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean, you think it's not a needle of
stylus going into a groove of record vinyl record. But
they worked without problems if something got start cours skating
they were driving crazy, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Yeah, neither neither know.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
They didn't really like scratches, and they didn't like.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Thinkerprint now that's weird as an I. Yeah, and skate
around when you're in the car, that movement. They didn't
like that either, Yeah, which.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Is a little ironicalus I actually sold as reasonably indestructible,
as in, you would buy a CD and you would
never have to kind of replace it because it was like,
you know, contactless kind of listening kind of technology. But yeah,
you're dead right the scratches and then you know, you could,
(06:26):
like you know, lose them quite easily to because reasonably
small as well.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, Nathan, I really feel like they were marketed to
us as just what you had to have, like next
level sound quality, because I slowly worked through my very
healthy record collection replacing everything.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
With a CD. Because I was one of these idiots, it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Was led to believe, and I wasn't the only one
that you know this, or you can't have better than this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I feel like we were a little bit would we
now when you look back.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Oh, totally absolutely. I mean my format was during the
eighties and nineties was obviously seats, and I'd literally had
thousands yees. Yeah, quite so many, and I spent a
small fortune on them as well over the years. And
now I'm kind of going to the phase of actually
replacing my records with new vinyl copies, repeating my problem.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, as consumers.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Yeah, but that's all right, it's kind of fun and
like you know, CDs are still relevant to this day.
People still release them, Like my daughter, for example, him
has been buying you know, Taylor Swift CDs just so
she can kind of, you know, have something in her
hand that she could kind of connect with a little
bit more physically.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
That we enjoyed about that.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, absolutely, mate, And like a lot of people didn't
sell their records like at least it did back.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
In the day.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But I'm finding now even places like Facebook, Marketplace and
that people selling CDs And then sometimes it's heartbreaking sea
people selling two hundred for fifty dollars and you think, yeah,
out and what people invested in those those discs when
they knew, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Yeah, absolutely, they do sell for kind of pretty cheap
this age, which is kind of a good thing and
a bad thing.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
I mean, at the end of the day.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
We kind of pass things on, and you know, things
kind of change and technology changes and things are kind
of happening. But obviously, like the CDs was like the
basis for like other technology as well, Like they use
the CD format for like DVDs and Blu rays and.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
In the computer, and I was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
And it wasn't just audio as well, Like obviously it
was just the idea of kind of storing data as well.
So in nineteen eighty five they created the CD rom
which was actually like which was actually a disc that
would kind of be read by your computer with data
on it. And then in nineteen ninety they actually created
the CD R, which is a rewriteable kind of disc
(08:54):
that you could kind of like make mixtapes and burn
CDs and very kind of things, and that changed everything
yet again.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I feel like the DVD replacing the VHS tape,
it was probably even a bigger.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, huge.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean, it wasn't such a thing about it, but
it was probably an even bigger life changer for the
Absolum media. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, I think we kind of forget how many CDs
were sold. I think there was estimations at the fortieth
anniversary of CDs in you know, I think it was
like two twenty four two hundred billion CDs were sold
during the life of of its run. That's very, very impressive.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That penomal a lot, considering how many weren't necessarily just
new things, but things that people were upgrading, like like
we all did from our value.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yeh, that's right. And some of obviously the big successes
was one of the first big Australian releases to really
benefit from the CD revolution was obviously John Finn and
when we Spring Jack that was the really big one
of the first commercially mass driven, locally produced artists, and
obviously other other artists like Midnight Oil, Savage Garden, Kylie
(10:08):
Minogue in expense, they all benefited greatly from the advent
of CDs, and they did sell. Vinyl records are still around,
but not in the same quantity that CDs were in
the eighties and nineties, and.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Of course some benefiting for all the wrong reasons. They
were like the cassette tape. They were of course hugely pirated.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
That was definite.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, it was too easy to You didn't get that
with vital albums.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You didn't come back from Barley with a bunch of
pirate albums.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
No, And you'd make mixtapes on CDs as well, mixtapes
that you would record off the radio with your foot
and your fingers certainly waiting for the record on until
the right song comes around. You kind of do something
kind of similar to CDs and you exchange them. You know,
I remember kind of doing that. You make tape for
your friends and you'd say, I'm listening to this at
(11:02):
the moment, checked us out and go from there and
it was how we kind of socialized. This is like
what it was before social media.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And whatnot, so exactly, very very generating social Well, Nathan,
do you remember what your first CD was?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Oh, my goodness, I've got memories of buying a CDC's
The Razor Edge when when I was about twelve years old,
the album that has understruck. But it's so like, it's
so hard for me to kind of choose what, like
my favorite CD was. I spent so much effort and
(11:42):
I'm listening to them in the eighties and nineties, but
yet all the like n Cave Records as well, Rim
and very I was very pleased to hear that you
bought Green by Rim.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
First one this morning was what a song is funny?
You raises h B.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You probably looked a bit like Angus at the time.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Thank you for joining us this morning to take our
History of Sound series into its compact disc phase.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
No worries, good luck with tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yes, yes, yeah, we're going to world Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
By the way, before before I just want to say,
for people that kind of want to learn more about it,
go to na dot got a you. There's plenty of
articles and information on there, and curated collection all kinds
of things you can dig yourself into. Please jump into the.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. Brilliant than so
much talk about CDs.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
This morning, we've reached the c D age in our
History of Sound series this morning, Julian Oakford says the
best track for testing a new CD player in her opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Underneath the Radar by Underworld. Absolutely. She said she brought
the D after the demo in the shop.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The production is a good one. The production, it is amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
They had a lot going on cleaning that laugh underneath.
Let's Chris, Chris, they're great. Yeah, what's your early CD?
You're an any memories for us?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yes? My first CD one of my cousin's twenty first birthday.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
It was Adam's family grew.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, it wasn't you can't touch this, was it?
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Chris?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I think you're a stoke though.
Speaker 9 (13:39):
Yeah, we never had to say my parents met a player,
so you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Got it, but you couldn't use it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Until I go to CD player.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Thanks Chris, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You can't underestimate what laser meant to us. Laser technology.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, wow, we loved technolo. I loved technology until I
ceased to understand it. Streaming a bit confusing when it
was just a little bit you know, drip fed at
a time and I could keep up, But.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Now they look so keep tim.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Timmy before I said as a text saying back in
the day, I made my girlfriend a mixed CD after
six month anniversary of all the good songs at the time,
and I think it worked because we're still married today.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
CDs brought diss to my heart.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Naomi and Heathridge said, I got my first CD for
Christmas in nineteen ninety two. It was Informer by Snot
and she said I had to share it with my sister. Really,
I still have no idea of what the words were,
but man, did I think I.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Was cool wrapping around the house? Yes? I love it.
It's too Michelle, Hi, how are you going there? Good?
What was your most one?
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Britney Spears? I did it again and then probably followed
by Spice Girls.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Fair enough they have the full set. Yeah, it's still
got that all in the pop chats.
Speaker 9 (14:58):
Yeah, I still have them.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
They're a bit scratch, that's all right. They probably got
well played. Yeah, I would imagine you've only for money. Michelle.
Thanks Michelle Bye, A little bit different to your Hendrix.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yes it was, I said, compilation, I met greatest hits
and thank you Jake and Inger would have make me
feel better that You're right. At least it was Hendrix.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It was had cred.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It may not have been that semi cred. I mean
it should have been an album. It may not have
been your experience the greatest hits, exactly fair.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It was Hendrix.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, we got there in the end. I played Woodstock,
don't judge me. I also bought all the Tour of Duty.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Nothing wrong with that. That were great, Nothing wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I got my education into that era of music from
the Tour of Duty soundtracks.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No fortunate.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So that's how I love CC now, I don't mind
admitting it. Dave in Mosman park on a text line
he was an early bloomer. He says, I remember my
first CD was Dire Straits Love over Gold. Mates were
working at Albert's High Fi. You as the demo to
sell CD players and this would have been around nineteen
(16:05):
eighty two, so that would have been the very first
CD players being sold in Australia.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Very much for the early adopters. Funny to say that
because Joseph got on and said love over Gold as well,
because yeah, Mirknofer's songs were just so magnificent.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well yeah, I mean the clarity on the productions amazing, incredible.
Michael in Palmelia, Hello.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Welcome Michael here. You guys going were the CD party?
What's your story?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
The first CD I ever got was Michael Jackson's Bad album, Yeah,
specifically because it had an extra track on it that
you couldn't get on cassette. Yeah, leave Me Alone was
on then I wanted I really wanted that. Yeah. I
thought it was brilliant because you got you know, the CD.
He had no hissing there was, you know, it sounded
so clear and everything. I was really thrilled to get that.
(16:49):
I've been a huge GM Joints fan for ages, so
I got all. I got all the CD singles, everything collective. Yeah,
to the point I was hastling Sony. I used to
call them up, you know, when's the next Seity single
coming out? When you're coming out? And then you know,
they actually sent me one of those you know, like
life size stands. Yeah, you know they sent it to
(17:11):
me from the Eastern States History album. You know that
statue yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They send me a
handtaanged thing because I used to ask them so much.
Then you was a huge fan.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
That's awesome kidding, So they recognize you're a super fan,
so they look after you.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah. On top of that, I used to win I
can't say the radio station, but I used to win
a lot of CDs off a radio station. I knew
a shop that that had friends in the shop that
worked in a record shop. I take the CDs that
I didn't want, and they give me credit for whatever
I wanted. Anything I want, I just take there and
they say, well, what you can exchange it for whatever
(17:49):
you need?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
A copy of Bad Thank you? Michael Sayer, Michael too many.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Michael Michael and Michael Fan What if you're changing by
Deepole because he loved Michael Jackson so much.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Do you remember how we used to get said c
d's a bit you know in this job, and they
would say these are for promotional use only.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, you about to tell me something naughty. They had
a sticker on them as well, stick on them. Yeah,
I said, promotional or DJ copies some.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Of the second air places of pay. Well, are you
going to tell me you sold some.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, I might have known someone who might have.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
That's all names, one names, nothing to see. I think
I played a house off doing that. It's a very
small house. Maybe a couple may have found their way
to us.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Had a couple of copies that one down at Clemont
and that's the one near the Hungry Jackson's.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Funny when you do that. Until he caught on that
they were coming from well water under the bridge.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Blair In Willison says his first CD was Boom Boom,
Shake the Room by will Smith and j DJ Jeff
and David, and Waki says our first family CD was
Elton John and I can remember Dad almost throwing it
out of the window of the car because he was
trying to put it in upside down.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Dad, that's a dead thing. That is such a dad thing.
That's a classic, such a dad.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
About David who said that War of the World's just
the fact that was his first CD. Jeffes War of
the Worlds makes him feel old, but he didn't buy
it until eighty three.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I think it came back a fair time before that.
But it's a classic. The old titles came out on
it old it's still so good.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Ken In Banksy Grove, Hello, Ken, there you go? Good?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Good?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
What's is CD story?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Bud Well.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
The first one I could actually remember buying was in
eighty nine was skid Row's self titled first album, Oh Yeah, yeah,
and which I just like every.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Track on it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It just blew me away when I heard Sebastians by.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yeah, but he's a really weird thing.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I hadn't actually heard them whatsoever before I bought it.
There was a rock magazine called Hot Metal Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
which you may remember.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Yeah, I used to.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I used to get that avidly every time it came out,
and there was a review in there for that, and
then just solely off that review, I bought it.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Ah yeah, that's pretty good going. That was at that time.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
There are a lot of bands coming out of the
States with the the you know, they were rocking the
long Hair and Big Hair yea, and.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah there were.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah also it was around that same time in eighty
nine I was I discovered a plan that can be
used for others. I got into the Doors and led
Zeppelin and Jimmie Hendricks.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, Pink Floyd A little visit to Woodstock.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Isn't it amazing? What hope we can do.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I got all them on CD, and then I used
to go to a record store all the time Middland music.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
A couple of years. A couple of years later, and
when Ratcat came out with Blind Glove.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah there, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And yeah. Well, the lady who worked there actually burned
me a copy of this Nightmare their first, their first or.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Be oh wow, that's good going.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
She wasn't mental, of course, but she did no no now, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Think she might, but it wasn't big enough on the signals.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Read the signals pape. She's burning your stuff exactly, I mean, hullover,
don't go now exactly, go now. Oh yeah, they were huge.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
The rat Cat was also.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, that song was Simon Day.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
He was a very beautiful boy. Ross says, I have
a CD of Devot Freedom of Choice dated nineteen eighty
Oh really nineteen eighty Wow. I wonder how soon it
was before he was able to play it, because I
did player might not have had the player.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
It came welltily before, unless that was just the date
that the album was actually recorded. That seems very very early.
But the tech was around there, as we heard in
the sixties. Yeah, Daniel in Wanneroo. What's your CD story?
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Good morning, go on one shill crazy. Yeah, I want
on a radio station when I was working at hoby Jack. Yeah,
get to what it still works, but I had to
go to Ballei when I was seven by CD warpman
to play it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, well I love it. Great story, Daniel, that's great right. Thanks.
It's unreal, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
How many people won things through the radio station as well,
like Mike who sent us the text as well, and
he said that he got the he remembers getting our
brothers in Arms from distrates and he played a competition
here on ninety six FM all years ago and won
a laser and a laser so Afford laser with with
the CD player in it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's pretty cute. More Czy, more Lisa, More podcast soon, Lisa.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
A lot has changed over the last few years in
the Waffle the w A footy, especially when it comes
to home grounds. Yeah, as you know, you and I
grew up going and supporting our beloved teams.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You East Perth at Perth Oval, Yeah, me West Perth
at Leedable. I drive past.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Perth Over every day on my way home.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Whatever it's called these days.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Ahbf something what Yeah, yeah, And the weird thing for
me is obviously being at West Perthy. We're at joodle
Up and you guys have got our home ground. Yeah,
you guys have got our home ground which is now
your home ground at Leadable, which you share with SUBI,
the Suireak guy. It's change, we know that, Yeah, but
imagine being homeless, which is a bit like the East
Round East Foota Club right now. It's a little bit
(23:31):
bizarre because Easter from Mantle Football Club. Now, of course,
the Sharks have yet to return to their newly redeveloped home,
despite more than thirty two million bucks being spent.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
That's a great upgrade for a serving ground, isn't it. Yeah,
the upgrades have been completed and of course there's apparently finished.
Earlier this year, the club in the town of East
from Handle have been unable to reach a lease agreement
enabling the Sharks to return, and there have been a
few sticking points in the deal and some are a
little bit od it so an insider claims that counselors
didn't we go, they didn't want the name of Easter
(24:02):
from Mantle is synonymous with football in Western Australia. But
they used to be Old Easts, but in recent years,
of course, for many years now, they've been.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
The Sharks for many years.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Apparently some counselors didn't want the shark's logo displayed at
the facility because it was seen as being confronting for
those in the nearby playground.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh, I'd give me stry.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So the kids on the swings are going to be
scared of a shark. It's not a real shark. It's
scared of a logo. It's a logo.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So according to the West they confirmed the decision led
to the state government. The state government had to intervene
and help negotiations and shut down that element of it.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Now there is more.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
There are other things that include fencing at the ground
and stuff like that, and these are things that are
you know, the sharks are going this is going to
cost us a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
We're a waffle club. They haven't got millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And some of their hold ups in the delays will
cause a lot of issues with finances, which have happened
already for this se of this delay of return under
absolutely one of those as the town said it didn't
want a permanent fence around the East Romantal Community Park.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
They wanted the club's going to make you feel hemmed
in somehow.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah, they wanted the club to pay for temporary fencing,
which it costs a poultice for the quary fencing. You're
getting fifteen hundred people to game, or even less, you
know that you haven't got the money.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
To do that. It is quite what was the problem
with a fence now?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Maybe because they want the public to walk in, because
a lot of these grounds are happening, so the public
can walk in and use the.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Facilitary out of a gate. Yeah, that's easy to do.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's worked for us growing up for.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Least from Lost to Love and Revenue and then on
Sunday they rubbs salt into the sharks wounds lease. Last
year's Waffle premiers were forced to play their home elimination
final at Clermont, so they played the Tigers at Clermont overall,
and the Sharks lost.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Tigers can be pretty scary.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Can be scary just trying to get kids away from
the logos.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It is quite weird. Now.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Apparently the town, some of the councilors are understood to
wanted to vote against the logo. The town itself said
they backed the signage, but if your counselors weren't happy
with it and said the Sharks might be a bit scary.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Oh, for God's sake, I can't even I can't even
humor this nonsense. I tried.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, so your beloved Royals because my team West Perth
are out?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is that okay? Can we say Royals are a elitist?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Actually for the kiddies, what about those who aren't monarchists?
Are the Royals play Swans at Sullivan Logistics Stadium, which
I believe is leadable Oval, okay on the weekend that
gomes on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is the finals, of course.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And Peels under play Clamont at Lame Group Stadium which
I looked up which is down and androuey Son Peel
look at the home final as well. So that's what's
going in the waffle getting along in supporting them, yell
for your team.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I am proper exhausted from that load of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You feel like you've been attack bo shark? Well, is
it really disaster?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I want to be attack shark, even if it was
one counselor thought about I was that was really strange.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
They're just looking for something to say. There's got to
be more to it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Frustrated hall monitors from school on these councils saying anything.
Whenever Leone Moriarty puts out a new book, I always
promise myself I am going to make it last. I'm
going to savor it a bit. I'm not going to
scoff it down in a day. I started here one
moment on Saturday, and I am proud to say that
(27:17):
I've still got just under one hundred pages to go,
so I'm making progress, pretty good going. Leone Moriarty is
joining us now.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Good morning, I'm welcome.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
Good morning, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's so lovely to have you with us about.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The release of the new book here one moment, and
I say, I might be overthinking it, Leone, but I
always think that when I get, you know, one of
your books, I am home a big fan. Let's just
get that out there. And I read it so quickly
that somehow I'm not doing.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Justice to you.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You've toiled and you've worked, and you've blood, sweat and
tearsed over this book for ages, and I can just
do it in a night, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
I know, I know. I'm a reader like that myself.
I'm a very greedy reader. I would prefer my readers
to their time, because it's strange when they say it's
all done.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well I am a bit this time. I
feel like I have made some progress. So's the new
book here one moment. It raises questions about mortality. Would
you want to know when and how you're going to die?
And if you do know, would you try to change
(28:33):
the outcome?
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Yes, that's right. So it's about a lady on a plane,
a normal domestic flight from Hobart to Sydney, and a
woman stands up and she starts pointing at each of
the passengers and telling each of them exactly how and
when they're going to die, and a lot of passengers
don't take too much notice, and then everybody gets off
(28:58):
the plane. My American publisher wanted to make that clear,
it's not about a plane accident. And and then most
people sort of put it out of their minds. But
then the first prediction comes.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
True, leam, where do you get these ideas from? Where's
the inspiration for that?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
One? Just plucked from somewhere?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
So I was actually on a flight myself, on the
exact same flight out of Hobart, and the youful thought
came into my head. Every persenger on the pave I
would one day die, and so I was it is
true not I think we tried to pretend it's not happening.
(29:39):
And I was looking at all the passengers, and I
was thinking, will you be the person who makes it
to one hundred and dies specifully in the sleep, or
will you be the person whose life is unexpectedly cut short?
And then I thought, imagine if that information was available
right now, right and what.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Would we do?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Because a few people do get you know, they think
they win the Lady the Death Lady Jackpot because they
get told they're going to live to ninety two or something.
But for a few of them, it's not too far
in the immediate future. So a few characters do die
here one moment. Have you ever named a character you've
killed off in a book after someone you didn't like
in real life?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
No, I haven't. I think that would be too obvious.
I might take a little attribute of theirs and then
happily two of them off.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, fair enough, Helen, And I've always been fascinated with
someone like yourself, Like Lisa, you're reader a hell of
a lot, and I don't know where you find the time,
but we talk to a lot of musicians who do
fear that they've been influenced by other people's use of
the chords. Do you sometimes write it about a character
or a paragraph or a chapter and ago, well, that's
a bit too familiar.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'll change that a bit.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Yes, I always worry if it comes too easily.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Right.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
So if I think, especially if I think of a
plot and it all falls into place two perfect, then
I assume that I took it from an episode of
Law and Order, I have to throw it away. And
I've heard, as you said, musicians and also comedians, I
think if they think of a joke too easily, they
think maybe I'm taking that from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Well, Lauren, to get most of their inspiration from, you know,
TV news and so on, it's all got to.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Come from somewhere.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
You're right exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I know you've been on a grueling promotional tour and
so you might not get too much time to read
things yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But have you read anything lately that you would recommend.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
I'm reading the latest Kate Atkinson. I can't. I can't
never remember the title. But it's a funny detective series
and I'm loving that. Okay, right, okact I should be
promoting my sister, My sister Nicola.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh yes, Nicholas, listening to the podcast after I not
happy with this.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Next Sunday lunch, She's gonna have an angry look on
her face and you show.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Up, I know, Nicholas, get.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I'm with your incredible success and of course being picked
up and made into productions. Do you sometimes have that
in mind whilst you're writing or do you just put
that way out and stick with.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
The old formula.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yeah, I honestly don't. I'm really not thinking.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
So.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
The main character in this books called Cherry, and she's
my Cherry at the moment. She's not anybody else.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
This is your baby.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, but if we may, we must talk for a
moment about Big Little Eyes.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It came out ten years ago. Did you when you
put that book.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Out ten years ago, in your wildest dreams, did you
think that we would now be two series in with
a cast that includes Meryl Street, and with the audience
baying for a third season, baying.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
For not in my wildest dreams. No, even when mild
said when I first met her, and I said, I know,
not to get too excited until the day they start shooting.
That's what authors always say. Yeah, And she said, no, no,
if we optionate get excited, But I still didn't until
(33:17):
they started shooting. But I don't think any of them
would have imagined the success either. So it's been fantastic.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It has been fantastic, And do you know it? Can
you confirm that there is a third series?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
All I can confirm is that I am definitely writing
a sequel to my own book, Little Life, because I
would tend to go when the children were little in
the book, and also in real life, my children were little,
and so now my teenagers. So I'm writing a book
with the dealing with all the teen issues.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, you do act as an executive producer on the series,
don't you.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Yeah, but it's an honorary. There's something that they say
to you to be nice. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure what it actually means.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The credit.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I'm certainly not out there throwing my way.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And I know Lisa very well, and I could tell
that she was really looking forward to She was tough
that we were going to be talking to you as
I was as well being a huge fan. She was
excited and a little bit nervous. When was the last
time you felt nervous about meeting someone that was working
on your work at an actress or an actor?
Speaker 9 (34:30):
It would have to be Meryl Streep? Sure, Yeah, which
I feel like was was a big star struck moment.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I mean, what do you say. That's the thing is
that Meryl Streep?
Speaker 9 (34:46):
Well, I got I got in my head. I'd heard
that she had had her first grandchild. Yeah, said I
was asking about her grandchild, and she actually showed me
some photos. Yeah, But obviously I was so intense in
my interest about it that finally she said to me,
(35:06):
do you have a first grandchild yourself? Obviously acting a
little bizarrely, but she I suspects she's used to it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So what did you do today?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I just hung out with Merrill's grandmother's stories. I mean,
it's a stella cast all around, really, you know, apart
from Nicole and Reese Laura Dern It's just incredible. And
by the way, it has the best two soundtracks that
that I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Well, here one moment might.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Be the next one to get because the big, Big
Little Lives. Also Nine Perfect Strangers and Apples Never Fall
have all been made, so this one might be in
the future.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
And the last anniversary my second novel has been the
finished filming, and that one's an.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
All Australian car Beautiful.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
I am filmed in the Australia.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I heard that you were insisting at be filmed in
Australia because it is, you know, quite off. The setting
is quite often another character in a story.
Speaker 9 (36:10):
Yes, yeah, and I don't think settings normally my strength,
but that one was set on the Hawksbury River and
it just felt too Australia for anywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I had to be there. I'm glad you put
your own.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah here, one moment is out now. Everyone just simply
must do themselves a favor. Even if this is your
first one, you will go back and start at the beginning.
Let me guarantee you. It's been absolutely lovely talking to you, wonderful.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
Thank you so much, really lovely talking to you too,
Thank you bye.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Love them Yeah, okay, you can breeve.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Isn't it awesome when you talk to someone that you've
so you know you so you admire them so much
we've had it over the years.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yes, I'd love to see your reaction.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I mean all everyone knows I love to read, and
she is just.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So goodeous and talk about a hot spell. That in
a career right now and that's awesome. So going for
a while.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
As I just heard for the last six minutes, so
humble as well.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Everyone wants to make her stuff to TV shows.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
How can you not be thinking about that when you're
write more Clesy, more Lisa, more podcasts soon, the Sure
Report on ninety six AIRFM.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
The Joker sequel, Joker Foliadeu has had its premiere at
the Venice Film First of all, the first reviews are
in and critics appear to be divided between those who found
it ingenious or beguiling and others who found it dull
and laborious. One thing they seem to agree on is
that Lady Gaga is, to quote one reviewer, criminally underused.
(37:50):
The story picks up with Arthur Wak in Phoenix's Joker,
waiting for his murder trial at the State Mental hospital,
where he meets Gaga's Harley Quinn.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
This is a very disturbed individual.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's nine seven, He's perfect.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
The reviewers all agree it feels long at two hours
and eighteen minutes. A lot of it'sat maniacal laughing too,
and most would have preferred more action, less singing. We
can see for ourselves when it's released next month on
October third. And for those playing the Film Festival Standing
ovation game, he got eleven minutes, less than seventy seventeen
minutes Julianne Moore's new movie The Room next Door got yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But still a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yes, I think Juliane would prefer eleven eleven minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Brian May has suffered a minor stroke that briefly left
him unable to move his left arm, but the Queen
Legend says, don't panic.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
The good news is I can still play guitar.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
He says he's making a full recovery while observing doctor's
orders to do nothing but rest. Robbie Williams seems to
be going the right way about reigniting him ancient feud
with Noel Gallagher amid the Oasis re union news goss
He is he's just told a podcaster that the shows
are going to be incredible. He said, Liam Gallagher reading
(39:12):
his phone on the toilet would be more charismatic and intriguing.
The ninety nine point nine percent of the world's population
at their most enigmatic. All he has to do is
stand there and sing for the audience to be guaranteed
their money's worth. He then added, Noel will be there too, subtle,
that's funny and Eagles singer Don Henley he's reissuing his
(39:37):
second solo album, Building the Perfect Beast, in celebration of
its fortieth anniversary, coming out October four. The two LP
set features all remastered tracks. Boys of Summer was such
a huge hit, particularly in Perth. Great sound and of
course at one I'm a Grammy for Best Male Rock
(39:57):
Vocal Performance.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Ah awesome. Grett Flick with Ben Oshe, Hello, good morning guys.
Much now.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
It's always a challenging thing to do a sequel many
many years after the original. In this case, we're talking
about Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, the sequel to Beetlejuice. I've said it
three times, which came out back in nineteen eighty eight.
Someone else can do the maths. It was a long
time ago, and we saw this thing happened recently with
(40:25):
Maverick and Top Gun Maverick, which turned out pretty good.
Twisters and Twister long awaited sequel, turned out okay as well.
Usually they don't work out okay, too much water has
gone under the bridge.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
And usually what.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Happens is the director and the writers go, well, everybody
wants a return to the original. It becomes about, you know,
sort of a fan service and legacy and how can
we just basically recycle all the same jokes and all
the same characters, and it probably doesn't really offer very
much new. But with Tim Burton directing the sequel as
he did the original, you hope for more, right, because
(41:01):
he is a guy with a very clear aesthetic, a
clear vision for how he makes his films. To be honest,
in recent years those films haven't been very good. Like
I think you probably go back fifteen years to find
the last Tim Burton movie that you would actually say
that's a good movie.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Tim Burton classic, Tim Burton classic.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
He kind of became, you know, a caricature of himself
and just became too tim burton ish, I think in
recent years. And you know, obviously had did a lot
of films with Johnny Depp along the way, which were
you know, probably didn't help him very much. But now
he's reunited with the great Michael Keaton, who's reprising the
character of Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
And for people who don't remember.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
He's the ghost with the most he's a ghost in
the afterlife who's a bio exorcist. You can summon him
by saying his name three times and he'll come and
deal with whatever ghosts you have haunting your house. And
in the original film, you know you had a young
Winona Rider and her parents, Catherine O'Hara, the Great Catherine
O'Hara and Jeffrey Jones, the principle from Ferris Bueller were
(42:01):
her parents, and they were haunted by Gina Davis and
Alec Baldwin, two recently deceased couple who didn't want these
newbies in their house. Beatlejuice comes along, but you summon him,
you get more trouble, and you know what it's worth,
because he was a very politically incorrect ghost who wanted
nothing more but to marry that teenage Winona Rider. Which
(42:24):
I watched it again recently. That aspect has an aged
particularly well, I will say, but it's it's a classic,
like it is a wild, wild film, like you look
back at it, you go, what was Tim Burton smoking
when he made this? But it was it's a cracker.
And in the new film, Winona Rider's character, Lydia Deeks
(42:45):
has because she can see ghosts, she's gone on to
become a celebrity spirit medium and so she's got her
own TV show called ghost House and she has people
on talking about ghosts. But when her dad dies, so
Richard Deeks was played by Jeffrey Jones, who is not
in this film because he got into some unsavory child
exploitation material charges. And so Tim Burton in the first
(43:08):
scene basically depicts him in claymation getting bitten in half
by a shark.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Took care of that. Took care and took care of that.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
And so that death prompts Lydia and her mum, Delia
to go back to the original house from the first
movie where they're going to have the funeral, and of course,
you know, they're going back into their own memories, into
Lydia's childhood, and of course Beetlejuice was a big part
of that. So that's how he kind of ends up
back on the scene. But this time there is a
(43:41):
new teen daughter who's got a bit of an attitude
played by Jenna or Taga from Wednesday, who is a
writer's daughter, Lydia's daughter, and she brings a really great
fresh vibe to the film. I think she's a really
fantastic young actor. And of course, you know, Beetlejuice gets
involved and then it kind of goes off the rails
(44:02):
as you would expect. It does honor the original movie
really really nicely without going too far into only being
about that, so it does offer a new plot. They've
tried hard not to just lean into CG effects and
have done that kind of like you know, sort of
handmade claymation, old school vibe with the special effects, which
(44:24):
is really nice. But this is really about Michael Keaton.
He is just so fantastic. Some great and new additions
to the cast as well. Monica Balucci plays Michael Keaton's
ex wife from the Afterlife, who wants revenge on Beetlejuice,
which is pretty funny as a soul sucking witch. And
you've got Willem Dafoe who's also a ghost in the Afterlife.
(44:47):
He's a sort of a ghost police detective because he
was a B movie actor in real life who died
doing his own stunts. He's playing a character called Jack Hardballer.
There's stuff like that which is really really fun. And
justin throw is Winona Ryder's sort of boyfriend in the film,
(45:08):
who's just this, you know, sort of you know, sort
of new age hippie, dippy producer of her TV show,
but maybe he's got a bit of a nefarious intent
behind the scenes. So there's a bit going on in
this film. I would say overall it probably doesn't have
that same classic feel that the original did. Like you
watch that and you go, do you know what people
are going to be talking about beetle Juice for the
(45:28):
next thirty years. You see someone wearing a black and
white striped jacket, you go, who he's supposed to be?
Beetle Juice. I don't think they're going to be talking
about the sequel in the same way in thirty years time.
In some ways it improves, but overall you'd have to
say it's probably a slight step down from the original,
but that's extremely high bar. I think overall Tim Burton's
(45:49):
done a pretty good job.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
All right, Well, how many beetle Juices are you giving?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I'm going to give it three and a half. Okay, enough,
very solid, go watch it. An easy thing to do
forty years later.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Absolutely your thoughts on please on film festival standing ovations.
This new movie got seventeen minutes. Yesterday's out of control.
You even imagine standing there clapping, yes sevnte.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
It sounds crazy, right, But the way they do it
is they have the stars coming on one at a time,
going on here comes in this case till the swinter
untill the Swinton comes out, and she's walking from one
side of the stage to the other show minute half,
so it would feel like you're clapping different things. You're
not one clapping, but it is getting out of control.
(46:37):
And then people said that particular movie maybe wasn't that
good anyway. So there you go and The Joker. The
Joker got eleven got eleven minutes, and us in the media,
we're judging it. We're going on eleven minutes.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Considerably less than the motible if you want to get
four minutes.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
So the movie companies will be planting really good clappers.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Exactly clappers to stunt clap with your hands and being
nearly falling off. You couldn't just be an amateur going
on to be a professional.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Oh, thank you, thank you guys, good to say, Crazy
and Lisa
Speaker 2 (47:10):
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about CDs and we found out about your first or
favorite CD.
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Their strife in East Trio over a shark logo.
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How ridiculous beetlejuice. Beetle juice. No, it's not an echo.
It's the new movie we've ben Ochet.
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Little stuff pop up the val your Clezy leases the
History of Sound.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Continuing our delve into the history of sound. We've moved
from the phonographic cylinder, to vinyl, to cassette tapes to
arriving today at the Compact disc and joining us today.
Assistant Curator at the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia,
Nathan Smith, good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Good morning, Hey, how are you thank.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You so much for joining us?
Speaker 6 (01:04):
No, no, no problem at all.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Who invented the earliest known version of the compact disc, well,
the early known.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Version of Combatist was created by a guy named James T.
Russell back in the sixties, and he actually had a
bit of a patent for it in nineteen seventy. It
wasn't until Sony and Philip actually kind of got a
hold of the pattern and actually really developed it into
kind of what we know it is today. But it
(01:35):
took a little while for James to kind of get
his dues for creating the city, but he actually did,
and he you know, I think they ended up paying
him back in the eighties. Yeah, well, I actually think
he's still alive. I think he's like ninety two or
ninety three.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well, how does the technology work make because these shiny
silver discs and the silver part important.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Oh yeah, absolutely. So obviously the disc was kind of creator,
so it's basically an evolution of like laser disc technology.
And then obviously, you know, the music is kind of
recorded as a digital kind of file and this kind
of gets mastered and then it kind of essentially gets
etched onto the disc into like ones and zeros, and
(02:25):
then the laser is able to kind of pick up
those ones and zeros. And kind of decode it back
into what we kind of know today. But the reason
why CDs kind of became so popular because it was
all about kind of the evolution of technology and you know,
kind of having like the better quality kind of files.
(02:46):
When James actually originally created the technology in the sixties
and seventies, he was actually a classical music buff. Yeah yeah,
and he was just a little bit sick and tired
of the wear and tear his CDs, so he wanted
kind of to kind of create something that would kind
of remove that wear and tear. So we kind of
(03:07):
created this like contactless type listening device. Yeah yeah, so
you so you were in theory you would never have
to touch a CD. CDs were kind of kind of
then presented to the public in you know, the early eighties.
I think they kind of first got released in like
nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty two. There's a few different
kind of theories as to kind of what the actual
(03:29):
first CDs were actually created by some of the really
big popular ones that really popularized the content was obviously
Brothers in Arms like distraits. They kind of got released
in nineteen eighty two and went on to have huge success.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You mentioned Phillips and Sony joining together to get to
get this out. I mean they were certainly were then too,
absolute juggernauts of the audio world. They must have they
must have known they were absolutely one hundred percent onto
a winner.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Oh, totally, absolutely they were onto a winner. I mean,
obviously it was all about quality and just like the
evolution of kind of formatsch I mean, as you're kind
of previously discussed in the previous episodes, obviously starting with
cylinders and then going to vinyl, and then going to cassettes,
and now we kind of found ourselves with this shiny
(04:22):
kind of compact disc which was actually really cheap to
kind of manufacture. It only costs. The wholesale cost of
a CD back in the eighties was about a dollar
dollar fifteen, and they were selling I mean, I don't
know about you guys, but I remember CDs being relatively expensive. Yeah,
(04:44):
they were like to buy a brand Yeah, to buy
a brand new CD back in the nineties was twenty
thirty dollars, but they only cost about a dollar maybe
two dollars to make the wow moment, so that they
were making them.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Absolutely, I still think that a lure of this the
shiny silver.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It was like a shiny thing something from space nature.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, shiny disiness.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
But there was also too like having you know, like
it was like labor technology. It's cool. You know, everybody
wanted a CD player and they want that cheap either.
They were about one thousand dollars back in the eighties
for a really expensive vinyl was about fifteen hundred. Generally speaking,
they kind of decreased about three to five hundred dollars. Yeah, yeah,
(05:34):
and they kind of did get cheaper as kind of
time went on.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean, you think it's not a needle of
stylus going into a groove of record vinyl record. But
they worked without problems if something got start cours skating
they were driving crazy, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Yeah, neither neither know.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
They didn't really like scratches, and they didn't like.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Thinkerprint now that's weird as an I. Yeah, and skate
around when you're in the car, that movement. They didn't
like that either, Yeah, which.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Is a little ironicalus I actually sold as reasonably indestructible,
as in, you would buy a CD and you would
never have to kind of replace it because it was like,
you know, contactless kind of listening kind of technology. But yeah,
you're dead right the scratches and then you know, you could,
(06:26):
like you know, lose them quite easily to because reasonably
small as well.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, Nathan, I really feel like they were marketed to
us as just what you had to have, like next
level sound quality, because I slowly worked through my very
healthy record collection replacing everything.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
With a CD. Because I was one of these idiots, it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Was led to believe, and I wasn't the only one
that you know this, or you can't have better than this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I feel like we were a little bit would we
now when you look back.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Oh, totally absolutely. I mean my format was during the
eighties and nineties was obviously seats, and I'd literally had
thousands yees. Yeah, quite so many, and I spent a
small fortune on them as well over the years. And
now I'm kind of going to the phase of actually
replacing my records with new vinyl copies, repeating my problem.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, as consumers.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Yeah, but that's all right, it's kind of fun and
like you know, CDs are still relevant to this day.
People still release them, Like my daughter, for example, him
has been buying you know, Taylor Swift CDs just so
she can kind of, you know, have something in her
hand that she could kind of connect with a little
bit more physically.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
That we enjoyed about that.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, absolutely, mate, And like a lot of people didn't
sell their records like at least it did back.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
In the day.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But I'm finding now even places like Facebook, Marketplace and
that people selling CDs And then sometimes it's heartbreaking sea
people selling two hundred for fifty dollars and you think, yeah,
out and what people invested in those those discs when
they knew, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Yeah, absolutely, they do sell for kind of pretty cheap
this age, which is kind of a good thing and
a bad thing.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
I mean, at the end of the day.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
We kind of pass things on, and you know, things
kind of change and technology changes and things are kind
of happening. But obviously, like the CDs was like the
basis for like other technology as well, Like they use
the CD format for like DVDs and Blu rays and.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
In the computer, and I was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
And it wasn't just audio as well, Like obviously it
was just the idea of kind of storing data as well.
So in nineteen eighty five they created the CD rom
which was actually like which was actually a disc that
would kind of be read by your computer with data
on it. And then in nineteen ninety they actually created
the CD R, which is a rewriteable kind of disc
(08:54):
that you could kind of like make mixtapes and burn
CDs and very kind of things, and that changed everything
yet again.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I feel like the DVD replacing the VHS tape,
it was probably even a bigger.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, huge.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean, it wasn't such a thing about it, but
it was probably an even bigger life changer for the
Absolum media. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, I think we kind of forget how many CDs
were sold. I think there was estimations at the fortieth
anniversary of CDs in you know, I think it was
like two twenty four two hundred billion CDs were sold
during the life of of its run. That's very, very impressive.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That penomal a lot, considering how many weren't necessarily just
new things, but things that people were upgrading, like like
we all did from our value.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yeh, that's right. And some of obviously the big successes
was one of the first big Australian releases to really
benefit from the CD revolution was obviously John Finn and
when we Spring Jack that was the really big one
of the first commercially mass driven, locally produced artists, and
obviously other other artists like Midnight Oil, Savage Garden, Kylie
(10:08):
Minogue in expense, they all benefited greatly from the advent
of CDs, and they did sell. Vinyl records are still around,
but not in the same quantity that CDs were in
the eighties and nineties, and.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Of course some benefiting for all the wrong reasons. They
were like the cassette tape. They were of course hugely pirated.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
That was definite.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, it was too easy to You didn't get that
with vital albums.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You didn't come back from Barley with a bunch of
pirate albums.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
No, And you'd make mixtapes on CDs as well, mixtapes
that you would record off the radio with your foot
and your fingers certainly waiting for the record on until
the right song comes around. You kind of do something
kind of similar to CDs and you exchange them. You know,
I remember kind of doing that. You make tape for
your friends and you'd say, I'm listening to this at
(11:02):
the moment, checked us out and go from there and
it was how we kind of socialized. This is like
what it was before social media.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And whatnot, so exactly, very very generating social Well, Nathan,
do you remember what your first CD was?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Oh, my goodness, I've got memories of buying a CDC's
The Razor Edge when when I was about twelve years old,
the album that has understruck. But it's so like, it's
so hard for me to kind of choose what, like
my favorite CD was. I spent so much effort and
(11:42):
I'm listening to them in the eighties and nineties, but
yet all the like n Cave Records as well, Rim
and very I was very pleased to hear that you
bought Green by Rim.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
First one this morning was what a song is funny?
You raises h B.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You probably looked a bit like Angus at the time.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Thank you for joining us this morning to take our
History of Sound series into its compact disc phase.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
No worries, good luck with tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yes, yes, yeah, we're going to world Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
By the way, before before I just want to say,
for people that kind of want to learn more about it,
go to na dot got a you. There's plenty of
articles and information on there, and curated collection all kinds
of things you can dig yourself into. Please jump into the.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. Brilliant than so
much talk about CDs.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
This morning, we've reached the c D age in our
History of Sound series this morning, Julian Oakford says the
best track for testing a new CD player in her opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Underneath the Radar by Underworld. Absolutely. She said she brought
the D after the demo in the shop.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The production is a good one. The production, it is amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
They had a lot going on cleaning that laugh underneath.
Let's Chris, Chris, they're great. Yeah, what's your early CD?
You're an any memories for us?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yes? My first CD one of my cousin's twenty first birthday.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
It was Adam's family grew.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, it wasn't you can't touch this, was it?
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Chris?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I think you're a stoke though.
Speaker 9 (13:39):
Yeah, we never had to say my parents met a player,
so you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Got it, but you couldn't use it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Until I go to CD player.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Thanks Chris, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You can't underestimate what laser meant to us. Laser technology.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, wow, we loved technolo. I loved technology until I
ceased to understand it. Streaming a bit confusing when it
was just a little bit you know, drip fed at
a time and I could keep up, But.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Now they look so keep tim.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Timmy before I said as a text saying back in
the day, I made my girlfriend a mixed CD after
six month anniversary of all the good songs at the time,
and I think it worked because we're still married today.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
CDs brought diss to my heart.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Naomi and Heathridge said, I got my first CD for
Christmas in nineteen ninety two. It was Informer by Snot
and she said I had to share it with my sister. Really,
I still have no idea of what the words were,
but man, did I think I.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Was cool wrapping around the house? Yes? I love it.
It's too Michelle, Hi, how are you going there? Good?
What was your most one?
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Britney Spears? I did it again and then probably followed
by Spice Girls.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Fair enough they have the full set. Yeah, it's still
got that all in the pop chats.
Speaker 9 (14:58):
Yeah, I still have them.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
They're a bit scratch, that's all right. They probably got
well played. Yeah, I would imagine you've only for money. Michelle.
Thanks Michelle Bye, A little bit different to your Hendrix.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yes it was, I said, compilation, I met greatest hits
and thank you Jake and Inger would have make me
feel better that You're right. At least it was Hendrix.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It was had cred.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It may not have been that semi cred. I mean
it should have been an album. It may not have
been your experience the greatest hits, exactly fair.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It was Hendrix.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, we got there in the end. I played Woodstock,
don't judge me. I also bought all the Tour of Duty.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Nothing wrong with that. That were great, Nothing wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I got my education into that era of music from
the Tour of Duty soundtracks.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No fortunate.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So that's how I love CC now, I don't mind
admitting it. Dave in Mosman park on a text line
he was an early bloomer. He says, I remember my
first CD was Dire Straits Love over Gold. Mates were
working at Albert's High Fi. You as the demo to
sell CD players and this would have been around nineteen
(16:05):
eighty two, so that would have been the very first
CD players being sold in Australia.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Very much for the early adopters. Funny to say that
because Joseph got on and said love over Gold as well,
because yeah, Mirknofer's songs were just so magnificent.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well yeah, I mean the clarity on the productions amazing, incredible.
Michael in Palmelia, Hello.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Welcome Michael here. You guys going were the CD party?
What's your story?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
The first CD I ever got was Michael Jackson's Bad album, Yeah,
specifically because it had an extra track on it that
you couldn't get on cassette. Yeah, leave Me Alone was
on then I wanted I really wanted that. Yeah. I
thought it was brilliant because you got you know, the CD.
He had no hissing there was, you know, it sounded
so clear and everything. I was really thrilled to get that.
(16:49):
I've been a huge GM Joints fan for ages, so
I got all. I got all the CD singles, everything collective. Yeah,
to the point I was hastling Sony. I used to
call them up, you know, when's the next Seity single
coming out? When you're coming out? And then you know,
they actually sent me one of those you know, like
life size stands. Yeah, you know they sent it to
(17:11):
me from the Eastern States History album. You know that
statue yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They send me a
handtaanged thing because I used to ask them so much.
Then you was a huge fan.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
That's awesome kidding, So they recognize you're a super fan,
so they look after you.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah. On top of that, I used to win I
can't say the radio station, but I used to win
a lot of CDs off a radio station. I knew
a shop that that had friends in the shop that
worked in a record shop. I take the CDs that
I didn't want, and they give me credit for whatever
I wanted. Anything I want, I just take there and
they say, well, what you can exchange it for whatever
(17:49):
you need?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
A copy of Bad Thank you? Michael Sayer, Michael too many.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Michael Michael and Michael Fan What if you're changing by
Deepole because he loved Michael Jackson so much.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Do you remember how we used to get said c
d's a bit you know in this job, and they
would say these are for promotional use only.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, you about to tell me something naughty. They had
a sticker on them as well, stick on them. Yeah,
I said, promotional or DJ copies some.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Of the second air places of pay. Well, are you
going to tell me you sold some.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, I might have known someone who might have.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
That's all names, one names, nothing to see. I think
I played a house off doing that. It's a very
small house. Maybe a couple may have found their way
to us.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Had a couple of copies that one down at Clemont
and that's the one near the Hungry Jackson's.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Funny when you do that. Until he caught on that
they were coming from well water under the bridge.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Blair In Willison says his first CD was Boom Boom,
Shake the Room by will Smith and j DJ Jeff
and David, and Waki says our first family CD was
Elton John and I can remember Dad almost throwing it
out of the window of the car because he was
trying to put it in upside down.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Dad, that's a dead thing. That is such a dad thing.
That's a classic, such a dad.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
About David who said that War of the World's just
the fact that was his first CD. Jeffes War of
the Worlds makes him feel old, but he didn't buy
it until eighty three.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I think it came back a fair time before that.
But it's a classic. The old titles came out on
it old it's still so good.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Ken In Banksy Grove, Hello, Ken, there you go? Good?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Good?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
What's is CD story?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Bud Well.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
The first one I could actually remember buying was in
eighty nine was skid Row's self titled first album, Oh Yeah, yeah,
and which I just like every.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Track on it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It just blew me away when I heard Sebastians by.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yeah, but he's a really weird thing.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I hadn't actually heard them whatsoever before I bought it.
There was a rock magazine called Hot Metal Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
which you may remember.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Yeah, I used to.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I used to get that avidly every time it came out,
and there was a review in there for that, and
then just solely off that review, I bought it.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Ah yeah, that's pretty good going. That was at that time.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
There are a lot of bands coming out of the
States with the the you know, they were rocking the
long Hair and Big Hair yea, and.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah there were.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah also it was around that same time in eighty
nine I was I discovered a plan that can be
used for others. I got into the Doors and led
Zeppelin and Jimmie Hendricks.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, Pink Floyd A little visit to Woodstock.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Isn't it amazing? What hope we can do.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I got all them on CD, and then I used
to go to a record store all the time Middland music.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
A couple of years. A couple of years later, and
when Ratcat came out with Blind Glove.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah there, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And yeah. Well, the lady who worked there actually burned
me a copy of this Nightmare their first, their first or.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Be oh wow, that's good going.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
She wasn't mental, of course, but she did no no now, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Think she might, but it wasn't big enough on the signals.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Read the signals pape. She's burning your stuff exactly, I mean, hullover,
don't go now exactly, go now. Oh yeah, they were huge.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
The rat Cat was also.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, that song was Simon Day.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
He was a very beautiful boy. Ross says, I have
a CD of Devot Freedom of Choice dated nineteen eighty
Oh really nineteen eighty Wow. I wonder how soon it
was before he was able to play it, because I
did player might not have had the player.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
It came welltily before, unless that was just the date
that the album was actually recorded. That seems very very early.
But the tech was around there, as we heard in
the sixties. Yeah, Daniel in Wanneroo. What's your CD story?
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Good morning, go on one shill crazy. Yeah, I want
on a radio station when I was working at hoby Jack. Yeah,
get to what it still works, but I had to
go to Ballei when I was seven by CD warpman
to play it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, well I love it. Great story, Daniel, that's great right. Thanks.
It's unreal, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
How many people won things through the radio station as well,
like Mike who sent us the text as well, and
he said that he got the he remembers getting our
brothers in Arms from distrates and he played a competition
here on ninety six FM all years ago and won
a laser and a laser so Afford laser with with
the CD player in it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's pretty cute. More Czy, more Lisa, More podcast soon, Lisa.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
A lot has changed over the last few years in
the Waffle the w A footy, especially when it comes
to home grounds. Yeah, as you know, you and I
grew up going and supporting our beloved teams.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You East Perth at Perth Oval, Yeah, me West Perth
at Leedable. I drive past.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Perth Over every day on my way home.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Whatever it's called these days.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Ahbf something what Yeah, yeah, And the weird thing for
me is obviously being at West Perthy. We're at joodle
Up and you guys have got our home ground. Yeah,
you guys have got our home ground which is now
your home ground at Leadable, which you share with SUBI,
the Suireak guy. It's change, we know that, Yeah, but
imagine being homeless, which is a bit like the East
Round East Foota Club right now. It's a little bit
(23:31):
bizarre because Easter from Mantle Football Club. Now, of course,
the Sharks have yet to return to their newly redeveloped home,
despite more than thirty two million bucks being spent.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
That's a great upgrade for a serving ground, isn't it. Yeah,
the upgrades have been completed and of course there's apparently finished.
Earlier this year, the club in the town of East
from Handle have been unable to reach a lease agreement
enabling the Sharks to return, and there have been a
few sticking points in the deal and some are a
little bit od it so an insider claims that counselors
didn't we go, they didn't want the name of Easter
(24:02):
from Mantle is synonymous with football in Western Australia. But
they used to be Old Easts, but in recent years,
of course, for many years now, they've been.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
The Sharks for many years.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Apparently some counselors didn't want the shark's logo displayed at
the facility because it was seen as being confronting for
those in the nearby playground.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh, I'd give me stry.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So the kids on the swings are going to be
scared of a shark. It's not a real shark. It's
scared of a logo. It's a logo.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So according to the West they confirmed the decision led
to the state government. The state government had to intervene
and help negotiations and shut down that element of it.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Now there is more.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
There are other things that include fencing at the ground
and stuff like that, and these are things that are
you know, the sharks are going this is going to
cost us a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
We're a waffle club. They haven't got millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And some of their hold ups in the delays will
cause a lot of issues with finances, which have happened
already for this se of this delay of return under
absolutely one of those as the town said it didn't
want a permanent fence around the East Romantal Community Park.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
They wanted the club's going to make you feel hemmed
in somehow.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah, they wanted the club to pay for temporary fencing,
which it costs a poultice for the quary fencing. You're
getting fifteen hundred people to game, or even less, you
know that you haven't got the money.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
To do that. It is quite what was the problem
with a fence now?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Maybe because they want the public to walk in, because
a lot of these grounds are happening, so the public
can walk in and use the.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Facilitary out of a gate. Yeah, that's easy to do.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's worked for us growing up for.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Least from Lost to Love and Revenue and then on
Sunday they rubbs salt into the sharks wounds lease. Last
year's Waffle premiers were forced to play their home elimination
final at Clermont, so they played the Tigers at Clermont overall,
and the Sharks lost.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Tigers can be pretty scary.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Can be scary just trying to get kids away from
the logos.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It is quite weird. Now.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Apparently the town, some of the councilors are understood to
wanted to vote against the logo. The town itself said
they backed the signage, but if your counselors weren't happy
with it and said the Sharks might be a bit scary.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Oh, for God's sake, I can't even I can't even
humor this nonsense. I tried.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, so your beloved Royals because my team West Perth
are out?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is that okay? Can we say Royals are a elitist?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Actually for the kiddies, what about those who aren't monarchists?
Are the Royals play Swans at Sullivan Logistics Stadium, which
I believe is leadable Oval, okay on the weekend that
gomes on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is the finals, of course.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And Peels under play Clamont at Lame Group Stadium which
I looked up which is down and androuey Son Peel
look at the home final as well. So that's what's
going in the waffle getting along in supporting them, yell
for your team.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I am proper exhausted from that load of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You feel like you've been attack bo shark? Well, is
it really disaster?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I want to be attack shark, even if it was
one counselor thought about I was that was really strange.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
They're just looking for something to say. There's got to
be more to it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Frustrated hall monitors from school on these councils saying anything.
Whenever Leone Moriarty puts out a new book, I always
promise myself I am going to make it last. I'm
going to savor it a bit. I'm not going to
scoff it down in a day. I started here one
moment on Saturday, and I am proud to say that
(27:17):
I've still got just under one hundred pages to go,
so I'm making progress, pretty good going. Leone Moriarty is
joining us now.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Good morning, I'm welcome.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
Good morning, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's so lovely to have you with us about.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The release of the new book here one moment, and
I say, I might be overthinking it, Leone, but I
always think that when I get, you know, one of
your books, I am home a big fan. Let's just
get that out there. And I read it so quickly
that somehow I'm not doing.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Justice to you.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You've toiled and you've worked, and you've blood, sweat and
tearsed over this book for ages, and I can just
do it in a night, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
I know, I know. I'm a reader like that myself.
I'm a very greedy reader. I would prefer my readers
to their time, because it's strange when they say it's
all done.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well I am a bit this time. I
feel like I have made some progress. So's the new
book here one moment. It raises questions about mortality. Would
you want to know when and how you're going to die?
And if you do know, would you try to change
(28:33):
the outcome?
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Yes, that's right. So it's about a lady on a plane,
a normal domestic flight from Hobart to Sydney, and a
woman stands up and she starts pointing at each of
the passengers and telling each of them exactly how and
when they're going to die, and a lot of passengers
don't take too much notice, and then everybody gets off
(28:58):
the plane. My American publisher wanted to make that clear,
it's not about a plane accident. And and then most
people sort of put it out of their minds. But
then the first prediction comes.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
True, leam, where do you get these ideas from? Where's
the inspiration for that?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
One? Just plucked from somewhere?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
So I was actually on a flight myself, on the
exact same flight out of Hobart, and the youful thought
came into my head. Every persenger on the pave I
would one day die, and so I was it is
true not I think we tried to pretend it's not happening.
(29:39):
And I was looking at all the passengers, and I
was thinking, will you be the person who makes it
to one hundred and dies specifully in the sleep, or
will you be the person whose life is unexpectedly cut short?
And then I thought, imagine if that information was available
right now, right and what.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Would we do?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Because a few people do get you know, they think
they win the Lady the Death Lady Jackpot because they
get told they're going to live to ninety two or something.
But for a few of them, it's not too far
in the immediate future. So a few characters do die
here one moment. Have you ever named a character you've
killed off in a book after someone you didn't like
in real life?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
No, I haven't. I think that would be too obvious.
I might take a little attribute of theirs and then
happily two of them off.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, fair enough, Helen, And I've always been fascinated with
someone like yourself, Like Lisa, you're reader a hell of
a lot, and I don't know where you find the time,
but we talk to a lot of musicians who do
fear that they've been influenced by other people's use of
the chords. Do you sometimes write it about a character
or a paragraph or a chapter and ago, well, that's
a bit too familiar.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'll change that a bit.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Yes, I always worry if it comes too easily.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Right.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
So if I think, especially if I think of a
plot and it all falls into place two perfect, then
I assume that I took it from an episode of
Law and Order, I have to throw it away. And
I've heard, as you said, musicians and also comedians, I
think if they think of a joke too easily, they
think maybe I'm taking that from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Well, Lauren, to get most of their inspiration from, you know,
TV news and so on, it's all got to.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Come from somewhere.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
You're right exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I know you've been on a grueling promotional tour and
so you might not get too much time to read
things yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But have you read anything lately that you would recommend.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
I'm reading the latest Kate Atkinson. I can't. I can't
never remember the title. But it's a funny detective series
and I'm loving that. Okay, right, okact I should be
promoting my sister, My sister Nicola.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh yes, Nicholas, listening to the podcast after I not
happy with this.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Next Sunday lunch, She's gonna have an angry look on
her face and you show.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Up, I know, Nicholas, get.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I'm with your incredible success and of course being picked
up and made into productions. Do you sometimes have that
in mind whilst you're writing or do you just put
that way out and stick with.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
The old formula.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yeah, I honestly don't. I'm really not thinking.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
So.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
The main character in this books called Cherry, and she's
my Cherry at the moment. She's not anybody else.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
This is your baby.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, but if we may, we must talk for a
moment about Big Little Eyes.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It came out ten years ago. Did you when you
put that book.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Out ten years ago, in your wildest dreams, did you
think that we would now be two series in with
a cast that includes Meryl Street, and with the audience
baying for a third season, baying.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
For not in my wildest dreams. No, even when mild
said when I first met her, and I said, I know,
not to get too excited until the day they start shooting.
That's what authors always say. Yeah, And she said, no, no,
if we optionate get excited, But I still didn't until
(33:17):
they started shooting. But I don't think any of them
would have imagined the success either. So it's been fantastic.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It has been fantastic, And do you know it? Can
you confirm that there is a third series?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
All I can confirm is that I am definitely writing
a sequel to my own book, Little Life, because I
would tend to go when the children were little in
the book, and also in real life, my children were little,
and so now my teenagers. So I'm writing a book
with the dealing with all the teen issues.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, you do act as an executive producer on the series,
don't you.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Yeah, but it's an honorary. There's something that they say
to you to be nice. I'm not sure. I'm not
sure what it actually means.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The credit.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I'm certainly not out there throwing my way.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And I know Lisa very well, and I could tell
that she was really looking forward to She was tough
that we were going to be talking to you as
I was as well being a huge fan. She was
excited and a little bit nervous. When was the last
time you felt nervous about meeting someone that was working
on your work at an actress or an actor?
Speaker 9 (34:30):
It would have to be Meryl Streep? Sure, Yeah, which
I feel like was was a big star struck moment.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I mean, what do you say. That's the thing is
that Meryl Streep?
Speaker 9 (34:46):
Well, I got I got in my head. I'd heard
that she had had her first grandchild. Yeah, said I
was asking about her grandchild, and she actually showed me
some photos. Yeah, But obviously I was so intense in
my interest about it that finally she said to me,
(35:06):
do you have a first grandchild yourself? Obviously acting a
little bizarrely, but she I suspects she's used to it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So what did you do today?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I just hung out with Merrill's grandmother's stories. I mean,
it's a stella cast all around, really, you know, apart
from Nicole and Reese Laura Dern It's just incredible. And
by the way, it has the best two soundtracks that
that I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Well, here one moment might.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Be the next one to get because the big, Big
Little Lives. Also Nine Perfect Strangers and Apples Never Fall
have all been made, so this one might be in
the future.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
And the last anniversary my second novel has been the
finished filming, and that one's an.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
All Australian car Beautiful.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
I am filmed in the Australia.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I heard that you were insisting at be filmed in
Australia because it is, you know, quite off. The setting
is quite often another character in a story.
Speaker 9 (36:10):
Yes, yeah, and I don't think settings normally my strength,
but that one was set on the Hawksbury River and
it just felt too Australia for anywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I had to be there. I'm glad you put
your own.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah here, one moment is out now. Everyone just simply
must do themselves a favor. Even if this is your
first one, you will go back and start at the beginning.
Let me guarantee you. It's been absolutely lovely talking to you, wonderful.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
Thank you so much, really lovely talking to you too,
Thank you bye.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Love them Yeah, okay, you can breeve.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Isn't it awesome when you talk to someone that you've
so you know you so you admire them so much
we've had it over the years.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yes, I'd love to see your reaction.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I mean all everyone knows I love to read, and
she is just.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So goodeous and talk about a hot spell. That in
a career right now and that's awesome. So going for
a while.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
As I just heard for the last six minutes, so
humble as well.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Everyone wants to make her stuff to TV shows.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
How can you not be thinking about that when you're
write more Clesy, more Lisa, more podcasts soon, the Sure
Report on ninety six AIRFM.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
The Joker sequel, Joker Foliadeu has had its premiere at
the Venice Film First of all, the first reviews are
in and critics appear to be divided between those who found
it ingenious or beguiling and others who found it dull
and laborious. One thing they seem to agree on is
that Lady Gaga is, to quote one reviewer, criminally underused.
(37:50):
The story picks up with Arthur Wak in Phoenix's Joker,
waiting for his murder trial at the State Mental hospital,
where he meets Gaga's Harley Quinn.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
This is a very disturbed individual.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's nine seven, He's perfect.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
The reviewers all agree it feels long at two hours
and eighteen minutes. A lot of it'sat maniacal laughing too,
and most would have preferred more action, less singing. We
can see for ourselves when it's released next month on
October third. And for those playing the Film Festival Standing
ovation game, he got eleven minutes, less than seventy seventeen
minutes Julianne Moore's new movie The Room next Door got yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But still a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yes, I think Juliane would prefer eleven eleven minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Brian May has suffered a minor stroke that briefly left
him unable to move his left arm, but the Queen
Legend says, don't panic.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
The good news is I can still play guitar.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
He says he's making a full recovery while observing doctor's
orders to do nothing but rest. Robbie Williams seems to
be going the right way about reigniting him ancient feud
with Noel Gallagher amid the Oasis re union news goss
He is he's just told a podcaster that the shows
are going to be incredible. He said, Liam Gallagher reading
(39:12):
his phone on the toilet would be more charismatic and intriguing.
The ninety nine point nine percent of the world's population
at their most enigmatic. All he has to do is
stand there and sing for the audience to be guaranteed
their money's worth. He then added, Noel will be there too, subtle,
that's funny and Eagles singer Don Henley he's reissuing his
(39:37):
second solo album, Building the Perfect Beast, in celebration of
its fortieth anniversary, coming out October four. The two LP
set features all remastered tracks. Boys of Summer was such
a huge hit, particularly in Perth. Great sound and of
course at one I'm a Grammy for Best Male Rock
(39:57):
Vocal Performance.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Ah awesome. Grett Flick with Ben Oshe, Hello, good morning guys.
Much now.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
It's always a challenging thing to do a sequel many
many years after the original. In this case, we're talking
about Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, the sequel to Beetlejuice. I've said it
three times, which came out back in nineteen eighty eight.
Someone else can do the maths. It was a long
time ago, and we saw this thing happened recently with
(40:25):
Maverick and Top Gun Maverick, which turned out pretty good.
Twisters and Twister long awaited sequel, turned out okay as well.
Usually they don't work out okay, too much water has
gone under the bridge.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
And usually what.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Happens is the director and the writers go, well, everybody
wants a return to the original. It becomes about, you know,
sort of a fan service and legacy and how can
we just basically recycle all the same jokes and all
the same characters, and it probably doesn't really offer very
much new. But with Tim Burton directing the sequel as
he did the original, you hope for more, right, because
(41:01):
he is a guy with a very clear aesthetic, a
clear vision for how he makes his films. To be honest,
in recent years those films haven't been very good. Like
I think you probably go back fifteen years to find
the last Tim Burton movie that you would actually say
that's a good movie.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Tim Burton classic, Tim Burton classic.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
He kind of became, you know, a caricature of himself
and just became too tim burton ish, I think in
recent years. And you know, obviously had did a lot
of films with Johnny Depp along the way, which were
you know, probably didn't help him very much. But now
he's reunited with the great Michael Keaton, who's reprising the
character of Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
And for people who don't remember.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
He's the ghost with the most he's a ghost in
the afterlife who's a bio exorcist. You can summon him
by saying his name three times and he'll come and
deal with whatever ghosts you have haunting your house. And
in the original film, you know you had a young
Winona Rider and her parents, Catherine O'Hara, the Great Catherine
O'Hara and Jeffrey Jones, the principle from Ferris Bueller were
(42:01):
her parents, and they were haunted by Gina Davis and
Alec Baldwin, two recently deceased couple who didn't want these
newbies in their house. Beatlejuice comes along, but you summon him,
you get more trouble, and you know what it's worth,
because he was a very politically incorrect ghost who wanted
nothing more but to marry that teenage Winona Rider. Which
(42:24):
I watched it again recently. That aspect has an aged
particularly well, I will say, but it's it's a classic,
like it is a wild, wild film, like you look
back at it, you go, what was Tim Burton smoking
when he made this? But it was it's a cracker.
And in the new film, Winona Rider's character, Lydia Deeks
(42:45):
has because she can see ghosts, she's gone on to
become a celebrity spirit medium and so she's got her
own TV show called ghost House and she has people
on talking about ghosts. But when her dad dies, so
Richard Deeks was played by Jeffrey Jones, who is not
in this film because he got into some unsavory child
exploitation material charges. And so Tim Burton in the first
(43:08):
scene basically depicts him in claymation getting bitten in half
by a shark.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Took care of that. Took care and took care of that.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
And so that death prompts Lydia and her mum, Delia
to go back to the original house from the first
movie where they're going to have the funeral, and of course,
you know, they're going back into their own memories, into
Lydia's childhood, and of course Beetlejuice was a big part
of that. So that's how he kind of ends up
back on the scene. But this time there is a
(43:41):
new teen daughter who's got a bit of an attitude
played by Jenna or Taga from Wednesday, who is a
writer's daughter, Lydia's daughter, and she brings a really great
fresh vibe to the film. I think she's a really
fantastic young actor. And of course, you know, Beetlejuice gets
involved and then it kind of goes off the rails
(44:02):
as you would expect. It does honor the original movie
really really nicely without going too far into only being
about that, so it does offer a new plot. They've
tried hard not to just lean into CG effects and
have done that kind of like you know, sort of
handmade claymation, old school vibe with the special effects, which
(44:24):
is really nice. But this is really about Michael Keaton.
He is just so fantastic. Some great and new additions
to the cast as well. Monica Balucci plays Michael Keaton's
ex wife from the Afterlife, who wants revenge on Beetlejuice,
which is pretty funny as a soul sucking witch. And
you've got Willem Dafoe who's also a ghost in the Afterlife.
(44:47):
He's a sort of a ghost police detective because he
was a B movie actor in real life who died
doing his own stunts. He's playing a character called Jack Hardballer.
There's stuff like that which is really really fun. And
justin throw is Winona Ryder's sort of boyfriend in the film,
(45:08):
who's just this, you know, sort of you know, sort
of new age hippie, dippy producer of her TV show,
but maybe he's got a bit of a nefarious intent
behind the scenes. So there's a bit going on in
this film. I would say overall it probably doesn't have
that same classic feel that the original did. Like you
watch that and you go, do you know what people
are going to be talking about beetle Juice for the
(45:28):
next thirty years. You see someone wearing a black and
white striped jacket, you go, who he's supposed to be?
Beetle Juice. I don't think they're going to be talking
about the sequel in the same way in thirty years time.
In some ways it improves, but overall you'd have to
say it's probably a slight step down from the original,
but that's extremely high bar. I think overall Tim Burton's
(45:49):
done a pretty good job.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
All right, Well, how many beetle Juices are you giving?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I'm going to give it three and a half. Okay, enough,
very solid, go watch it. An easy thing to do
forty years later.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Absolutely your thoughts on please on film festival standing ovations.
This new movie got seventeen minutes. Yesterday's out of control.
You even imagine standing there clapping, yes sevnte.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
It sounds crazy, right, But the way they do it
is they have the stars coming on one at a time,
going on here comes in this case till the swinter
untill the Swinton comes out, and she's walking from one
side of the stage to the other show minute half,
so it would feel like you're clapping different things. You're
not one clapping, but it is getting out of control.
(46:37):
And then people said that particular movie maybe wasn't that
good anyway. So there you go and The Joker. The
Joker got eleven got eleven minutes, and us in the media,
we're judging it. We're going on eleven minutes.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Considerably less than the motible if you want to get
four minutes.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
So the movie companies will be planting really good clappers.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Exactly clappers to stunt clap with your hands and being
nearly falling off. You couldn't just be an amateur going
on to be a professional.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Oh, thank you, thank you guys, good to say, Crazy
and Lisa
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Ninety six, AVEM
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