October 3, 2024 • 34 mins
Barra was in with a preview of the NRL Grand Final plus it’s trade time in the AFL with names being thrown all over the place for team trades and there’s going to be double the amount of those great Shane Warne Heart Check Machines at the MCG this year for the Boxing Day Test.
Clairsy & Lisa hit the boards today for How To Make It In W.A and spoke to the Artistic Director of the Barking Gecko Theatre Company, Sam Longley who told the guys why we should be supporting and getting involved with local theatre productions.
Today in the The Shaw Report, The new Kim Kardashian legal drama All’s Fair adds some big names to it’s cast plus two of the kids from Jack Black’s School Of Rock Movie who met on set when they were very young have announced their engagement, Lisa will tell you all the juicy details.
The Royal Life Saving WA Bravery Awards are on today so Clairsy & Lisa had a chat about those brave people that put themselves on the line for others.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is Clearzy and Lisa's podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Coming up on the podcast Barra TALKDFL, Trade and NURL
Ground Final.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
How to make an m WA, Sam Longley from The
Barking getck O Theater Company.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And in the Shore Report, Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yes, Kim Kardashian's new legal show All's Fair has added
more big names to its cast.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
It's time to talk sport with Adrian Barrage. Good morning Baron,
Good morning Lace, Good morning Clarzy.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Yes, the silly season starts today in the AFL it's
called it's called Trade Week.
Speaker 7 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
People people just lie in bed dreaming up crazy ideas.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Basically like having those cards when we were kids and saying,
I'll give you a you know, for one of those
but for grown.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Ups, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's exactly right?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
And it can try anything on because at the moment,
with Tasmania around the corner, everyone's doing crazy deals. So
in my view, I Reckon Frio should be ringing up
Sydney and saying, listen, Chad Warner, get him out. We'll
give you three first round picks and if they start
talking about they go it didn't really mean three, but
how about two?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Just exactly, I've got some picks and.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
This one to suck him in to start, because once
they make that transition of thinking about it, like Jack Darling,
he'll be the first one done, the first trade done,
probably today this morning probably And.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Is that up to North Melbourne?
Speaker 8 (01:27):
I know?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But does that surprise you? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Well, it surprises me.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
He's got one year to run on his contract and
they've given him two plus. If he hits some sort
of targets, like games targets, he'll get a third. So
it could play with this thirty five. So easy decision
for me, isn't it three versus one?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, there are a lot of looking at his stats,
it was several games we didn't get many possessions this year,
and then were a couple of games he got twenty on.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So North are going, oh, they see some upside obviously.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Yeah, and I'm excited about seeing Waterman and Oscar Allen
working together, you know. So there's no out of the
way Jack Jack out of the way. But the funny
bit is least that they get picked sixty four for
him exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You justn't like have to wear that jumper North does it.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
It's not even the steak knives. Yeah, that's right, that
one number sixty. You'll look funny and blow and white,
tom brass tough. Obviously. Tommy said that he wants to
go to Hawthorne. It looks like being for their pick
thirteen will go to West Coast. That might take a
bit longer because he's got a three year contract. So
(02:31):
Hawthorne really have to deliver on that pick thirteen, and
if they don't, then the Eagles can go. You know
what you're not going. Can't guess what that's sucked in, Tommy,
you're staying. I know that you gave a beautiful speech
to the best and fairest said you wanted to go,
but you've got three years to run.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So just sounds like all the contract does these days
is give you a little bit of bargaining power exactly
for your agent leverage, a little bit of leverage.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
So if that happens, pick thirteen goes to the Eagles
and then they send that to Richmond for Liam Baker.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Baker wants to come over, which.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
You could say is over the odds. I mean he's
Baker as.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Good a player as Tom Brass. Probably not great.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Let's make Hawthorne even stronger. We're sending Tommy over.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah exactly, and Leam Baker coming to West Coast. A
big price to play for Bakes. He's a boy from
a wheat and sheep farm in Pingering. Pingering fifty k's
north of Lake Grace.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Sounds like a made up wheat belt name isn't he.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Grew up idolizing that five But he's a big eagles man.
Four hour drive from Perth, then Vice c Bak to Richmond.
He looked a bit disheveled at the Best and Fairest.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It was an awkward speech.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
It was a really awkward speech at the Pickering look
he had.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
A couple too many frothies.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Perhaps wow on hang On, new magazine sold.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
At the end of the season. He's you know, he
wasn't playing anymore.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I'm not sure, but he didn't have his tie done
up and out.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
They have people on staff to make sure that they
you know.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
When you're leaving now the garment, when you look as
bad as possible.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fair enough when you're leaving. So I'm not leaving the night.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Leaving the clo, but he didn't really know what to say.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Getty Bart and Tom Brass gave one of the all
time great farewell addresses, and Bakes probably somewhere down to
the undercooker. And on the back of this audio you
also here Shaye Bolton. He's trying to leave as well,
but he clearly did not want to say anything. He
was not giving anything away, whereas Bakes was trying to
say goodbye without getting in trouble.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
From far this is I just want to thank thank
my teammates, thank my coaches, Thanks my partner I seen
back at home, just couldn't be at the moment because
I got another one on the way.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So that's it. And yeah, that's it for me, So
thank you. I'll speak for me and Shay.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
No. Actually, it's been a great year and I appreciate
everything that there the club's done for for myself and
my family over over the years and this year, and
I'm looking forward to what the club does in the future.
And yeah, I can't wait to support it and yeah
(05:18):
it's going to be it's going to be great looking
from afar.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So thank you for having and take it.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Easy, Take it easy, mate, what are they gen z
calls that lit lip that he was a bit lit.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't think he was very lit at all, not literally.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
It was awkward and he said I'm going to support
it from afar, so he's on the way out.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
But with that shame Shaye Bolton, Shay, it's Shay shape Bolton.
If he goes to Freemant or Clerguy, I think you
agree with this. It's like that scene out of Jerry maguire.
Remember when he said to Rene's elwigga, what were the famous.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Words at the end of the movie. Do you remember that?
And Jerry McGuire.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Shove me the money.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
That's what he said to Fremantle, show me to my
dad did and what he said now, but what he said,
what had Freemantle said to him was you complete me?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
At least you're right.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Mate. Good lines, because that will complete Freemantle. They get him.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
They're getting down there with Freddie and Twitter and that
in the forward line.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, they might.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And Richmond last to pick nine and ten, you know
what I mean, So and the Freemantle should say nay, he's.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Not having picked nine and ten getting it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Get one of those.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
We might we might get because he picket Clayton Oliver
wants to go to Geelong. That's a nozzle there at Melbourne.
You know, we love you man, We look after Clayton,
no worries. And on the side they're going, hey, cats,
you want to take him. He's got six more years
in his contract worth ten million and they have gone
how much. No, he can stay. So he's been urged
to attend the Melbourne Best and Fairest tonight. If he's
(06:58):
not there, that means he's walked out.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
How's this week?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Josh Josh Battle from Saint Kilda. He's he told the club, look,
I'm leaving and they said, well, don't come to the
Best and Fairest then stay home, don't.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
We don't want to see you. And he came to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think that sucks a bit. Really, that's pretty ordinary.
I think that's pretty ordinary.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I think he's given one hundred and seventy on games service.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, that's you know that. That that's really ordinary.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I just put the boots into him, didn't men. She
was like he didn't exist the back.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It kind of seems very childish to me.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Actually, it might be a ross Lyne decision there, so
no more. Tim Kelly's manager has been trying to see
what's happening because he's only got one year to run
his contract. Yeah, and apparently he's run. They rang up
free and free. I went, yeah, nah.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
At twenty three year olds at free.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Thirty he's yeah, but he's because he when when they
tried to recruit him back here, he said, yeah, no free,
come here.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Long TK.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Sorry mate, and then Jesse Hogan, I wanted to mention
this guy quickly. Joe Danaher too. He retired after the
grand final. So they won the premiership and retired. And
Chris Fagan last night of the Best and Fairest, the
coach revealed that Danaher had told him if they'd won
the premiership last year, he would have retired. Oh ok,
but I'll bat on for one year more. And now
he's retired, which is very strange.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sellwood, if he retired after a flag yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Just going in on top. But I wanted to play
this Jesse Hogan audio, that's all right. I know a
bit late, but you know he lost his dad, he
had testicular cancer, mental health issues here at Freeman or
behavioral issues. Then he sort of decided he needed to
grow up. The Giants embraced him. It was one of
footy's greatest comebacks. He was nearly finished, no one wanted him.
(08:46):
His manager, Jason Doave, a friend of mine, had to
tell the giants, no, we've got other officers. No you haven't, No,
no we have, and so they got him through him
a lifeline and now he's won the goal kicking, the
common Medal in the AFL and the Best and Fairest.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
And this is what he said last night.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
We were bluffing to the giants that we had other
teams interested.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not everyone had pulled out.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
So if you guys didn't, if you guys didn't take
a chance to me, I don't know if I'd actually
even been in the league today.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So I'll be for everyone grateful for that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, thank you ever so beautiful story, one of the
great comeback an agent bluffing, that's unusual, but.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
That is one of the great comeback stories of the AFL.
There's one more Grand Final to go on Sunday. Actually
it's the NRL Grand Final, so the Rugby League, and
remarkably it hasn't sold out, so I'm not sure what's
going on, Whether people don't like that a core stadium
or whatever, or it's too expensive.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
They're more sit down to earth in the NRL.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
I was about to say South Sydney Rabbits because the
major entertainment is the kid LAROI. Now it's the kid LaRoy,
not just kid LAROI. Did you play any of the
kid LaRoy?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We don't, We don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
He's twenty one.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I like him.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
The great documentary about him on Prime Video called The
Kids Growing Up.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You can't have a doc twenty one, but.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You can just about Cam when you've been going as
long as he has.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Really love him in the States too, Yeah he's had.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
He's proud indigenous boy.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah mum, I think is yeah, and yeah, it's a
great it's a really interesting story.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
South Sydney rabbit oz fan. So that goes well there.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Good to see Australian music being supported by the NRL.
Follows up from last year though, when they had the
cast of Tina for the Tina Turner musical.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I remember that TENA wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Though, wonderful before the game.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
So that's that's that's the big thing happening in the
NRL as well.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
You should take some back don't call him the the.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, you know you're the m if you.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Want to get some calls. The best five bands beginning
with ye Rolling Stones, that'd be right up.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
One better.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
The Beatles, they're one of my favorite.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They're great, great. Maddie Johnson. Yeah, he's too good.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
He's already got one and two, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones,
the who Who they would challenge. There you go for
ours Killers, he's too good. Now let's talk about cricket.
There's been an announcement now that the number of Shame
Worn Legacy hard check machines will double at the MCG this.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Year for the initiative. It I really fantastic.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, And Warner's families come out and said, it's been
so great to get so many letters from people who
have had their lives, lives changed and their lives saved possibly. Yeah,
And the quote was from his son. Every such letter
we receive eases our pain of losing warning a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's a great thing to say. Well, I heard that
in the news last night.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Was beautiful, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The brook was there and so that's happening.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I just wanted to mention that the best young kids
left yesterday for what they call the combine, the National Combine,
So they go over there. So there's fourteen of our
best young people, boys and girls, you know, young people,
Yeah not they young seventeen year olds, teenagers going over
there to be tested ahead of the draft, all right,
(12:21):
and two of them are I'm friends with their family,
Hamish Davis and Will Hayes. They've been together from kindergarten
at Rosalie Primary School and they've made it all the
way through to now perhaps joining the AFL set for
two k time trial. Hamish is aiming at six minutes
fifteen for two kilometers, so runners will be listening going
what six minutes fifteen for two kilometers? That is full
(12:45):
blow and sprinting for two kilometers leaked thing. Yeah, they
do the vertical, they do the twenty meters sprint agility
as well. Bo Allen is the best west Ossie male
pel Premiership players. So good luck to the young people
there as well, and just so great to see them
doing so well. And we were knocked about we haven't
got many great kids this year, but I think we have.
(13:06):
The Wildcats are on tonight. Melbourne United has jetted across
the country to clash with them. How's this the record
in the West for Melbourne United. They've beaten the Cats
in eight of their last nine meetings, so the Cats
really need to win. They need to buck the odds there.
That's their third consecutive game at rac Arena. So I
wish the Cats all the best. And as I go out,
(13:27):
I just wanted to mention the Telethon derby at lead
of all Oval.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
So this is the afl.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
W derby move from op It's.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Going to be a cracker because both the teams are
in the eight in the finals. It's October nineteenth, the
Saturday ahead of Telethon, should be sold out early. Get
involved in the game because there are donations being made
to telephone as well.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And the Eagles have never beaten.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
The Dockers six tries seventh, so it's going to be
a crack of daisy Is versus the Dockers. Webby, Lisa
and Webbe and that probably the biggest afl W game
we've had in the state, full stop. So I get
along if you can. October nineteenth. That's all from me,
my friends, all right, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, that was sport with enjoyed the kid LaRoy, Yeah,
sport with the Adrian Barrish.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's more more Lisa, more podcasts soon, Cleary and Lisa's.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
How to Make It in wap in This Sun and
I'll make you a star.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
As we continue to you know, it's a case of
stick with me, I'll make you a star. Looking at
you know, the development of West Australia, Sam is a
you can forget New York, New York.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's just York York. It's a new hub, isn't it.
It is the new hub.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
And You've been at the center of the hub of
acting in WA for quite some time.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Yeah, thirty odd years, very very odd years actually, when
I say it out loud, Yeah, And I've done everything
from you know, from stage plays in undercover areas in
primary schools to His Majesty's theater, the Heath Ledger film,
TV radio.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I've done the full gamut, full gamut.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Now I've actually my first ever professional gigs with Barking
Gecko Theater Company back in the early nineties and a
few months ago.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You've come from full.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Circle now the artistic director of Barking Geckoy's.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wonderful Barking Gecko has been a stayer. Yeah, five years, Yeah,
thirty five years.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
And as I'm sure you guys know, we just recently
announced that we have merged with Awesome Festival.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So are now Barking Gecko Arts were presents.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
The Awesome International Children's Festival, so we're even bigger, even stronger.
This should allow us to reach more kids and do
more shows and have more art in.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It's not an accident marking Gecko has survived because of
some hard graft.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Hard work, yep, a lot of talent.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
What does it answer the question what does it take
to make it in this industry?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Wow? Okay, that's a great question.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I think.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
No, I think you've hit it on the grit and
determination is a part of it. Yeah, there are, as
you guys know, there are so many facets to the industry.
If we're talking about what it takes to be to
make it as an actor, I mean, it's so ethereal
we don't we don't know, We really don't know. If
anyone could say, well, this is the magic thing that
makes it happen everyone to be going great, I'll just
(16:32):
do that.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
People talk about the it factor. No one knows what
it is, but you've got it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, not many. You know that Heath Ledger magic.
That's you know, we'll just go bag And you.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Can see it sometimes with people, that little twinkle in
their eye, the way they inhabit a role, just go oh,
look she was perfect in that. But she may have
done a really bad audition for the previous show and
they went, yeah, no, not her. It's very very it's
really we and the industry, the performing arts, is one
(17:03):
of the few industries where they can totally not give
you the role because of how you look. Go to
another job interview, the color of your hair doesn't matter.
In fact, your gender shouldn't matter. Your skills on the
paper that's what counts. But even you go on audition
for a role and they just go, boom, she's got it.
We need her what It doesn't matter if you've got
(17:24):
a degree or not. It doesn't matter whether you've been
to whop her or not. It's whether or not you've
got what they need just for that particular role. Essence
the essence, and it depends on the director. If I'm directing,
I'm looking for something might be different from when Andrew
Gibbs is directing, and she's looking for something as well.
And then every role and then what that. So there's
a big chunk of luck in there. Of good friend
(17:45):
Sam Murray, she was auditioning for a film and she
just wasn't feeling it. She was at work, she was
like so many other actors. She was making coffee and
clearing dishes and her friend turner and said, are you
supposed to be somewhere? And she's like what, oh the
audition and had totally spaced it, so was not prepared.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Didn't gust yourself up.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
She basically before she even got to the audition, She's like,
I'm not getting this.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
There's no way I'm getting this. I'm not spared. I've
still got you know, mocker on my t shirt.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Went in there, didn't give a crap, did the audition,
walked out, went back to her shift, never thought anything
of it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
A week later, her.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Agent calls and goes, so, Harvey, ca, I tell love
what you did and you're in the film.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
She was like, what So I just don't have to
care and assume I don't have it. And on that date,
on that particular day, it might have been the magic
to it, and that might have been where we don't
trying too hard or.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Who knows how to impress? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Wow, it's not for the fainthearted, is it. I mean,
let's be real. You got to have a fairly thick skin,
you really do.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
I mean, any performative industry where you can be judged
by the populace, guaranteed thirty percent of people are going
to hate you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of course, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
They're going to and you have to go, yeah, that's fine,
You're allowed to hate me. That's okay. You do have
to have a thick skin. In with auditioning. When I
was an actor and I still am, my rule was
rule of ten. You do ten auditions and you might
get a callback on one, So you have to be
to fail nine times if you're not prepared to fail,
and if you take it personally, after nine times of
(19:17):
personal you didn't get it, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Going to hurt.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
You know, you're going to feel crashed. So if you go, no, no,
I didn't get that one's fine, I'm close to my tent.
And then when you get one gig.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
You've rolled up to the audition, so you've got to
see that as a successful step already.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Absolutely top If you get the wrong exactly and I
had one active friend of mine said, oh, the work
is auditioning when you get the role, that's what you
do for love and they pay you. But work is
learning stuff for a show that you never end up
getting on and all of that. But look in Perth
we are we are doing far more stuff here now
(19:55):
and so we are starting to Yeah, and Awesome is
putting on a lot of shows and they always back
w a first bucking Gecko. Our new thing is West
Australian First, where possible gender equality on our shows. West
Australian Artists first. And that's how we're rolling out and
that means we will have some people from the East,
(20:15):
but we're going to We've got enough talent here.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We've got so much talent.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We've got the best training school in the Southern Hemisphere.
I mean, Whopper is just I've always wanted to bring
out a bumper sticker that says, Whopper, they go in, good,
they come out.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The world.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The number of people that go to Nider while they're
you know, trying to or any of the other ones
over East while they're trying to get to the Great Whopper.
But it's you know, I mean, if you're really really keen.
You probably want to start even earlier. What local theater.
Local theater groups are they a thing that you can
get involved in.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean, I didn't go to Whopper. I taught it.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
To get in and looking back at my young self,
I wouldn't have let me in either. I didn't prepare
well enough.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I was long and lanky. I didn't quite fit in
the neighbours model, which they at the time. I believe
Whopper had it very much. You've got to be this height,
you've got to be blonde, and you've got to beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And they've thrown that out the classes.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Now at Whopper, they've realized that diversity is very much
something we have to right and they're they're really great.
I cannot speak highly enough of Whopper. But I went
and I trod the boards in the local community theater
to begin with, and then I did.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The independent theater. I did the blue room route and
I just worked.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Yeah, I just did show after show after show, and
I was a bartender the whole time, trying to get
paid along the way. And yeah, and I made a
full time professional career for twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
It's amazing because I went with my son to a
JOm show on the weekend. Yeah, Jones Boy Theater, and
it was so much fun. Now, these people aren't getting paid,
but they're loving their craft and the people in the crowd,
I said, the lest is only thirty odd seats in
that theater. The people in the next two productions, and
then mates of the people on stage cheering and joining in,
and it was just a joy to be there.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Yeah. And Jamie is a really good example of people
doing art for the sake of doing art and to
make themselves happy.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yes, and to be creative.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
And I think everybody needs a creative outlet in some way,
whether it's you know, you glue pop sticks together and
make wind Chinese. I think that's legitimate mental health, having
some spot of creativity, to be able to look at
a piece of art, whether it's a poem or a
sculpture or a piece of theater.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And go my brain, my heart went into that. Yeah.
And I built that. Yeah, And I think, and I
don't know if you did same. When you listen back
to your radio show, you can go a little bit
of pride in that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But it's a solid I mean, it's a solid base
for anything else in life too, especially when you're considering
theater and you are very big with improv. And I've
always said improv sorts separates the men from the boys.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And there's a thing to go It's one thing to
go into something with a script.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's another thing to go in with a word or
an idea or something and then a way you go.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
See, I've done it to line away from dying up.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
There exactly, and that's going to set you up for
your job, interviews, life, just life in general.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Any kind of creativity helps, I think, expand the mind
and teaches people to attack a problem from a different
point of view.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And AI isn't doing that. No humans are doing that.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
And human creativity is one of those things that AI
is trying to do or we're trying to do with
a I'm not quite sure where those lines are, but
it's one thing that will always be something that humans
will will be better at, in my opinion, that creativity,
that problem solving.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And any kind of art form you can do, you're
going to No. I was just going to say.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
The great thing about this industry becoming such a big
thing in w ways, it's not just treading the boards
or in front of the camera.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Either.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
There's so many great ways to you know, have a
career around around it, behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
On stage, stage, everybody on stage, you see there's three
or four people backstage. When you go into film and TV,
you multiply that by ten.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Yeah, So that actor she's up there doing a fantastic job.
But first she was in the in the hair and
makeup trailer. Before that she was in costuming, and before
that she was with a Third a d And before
that she was with craft services. And so just there's
this multitude of people who are all creating something beautiful,
something worthwhile watching. In most cases that enhances the whole
(24:33):
of our community, our cultural conversation, our society, and is
making w a bigger and stronger I think culturally.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And sheistically you mentioned catering because that's where I'd be.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Hard to get you. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Look, if you don't get catering right on a film shoot,
the whole thing can fall apart because for the next
two hours post lunch, all the crews and the cast
are talking about but when the cameras aren't rolling, is
how good lunch was?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
All they're all they're bitching about it.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
And if they're if they're doing ten hour days and
they haven't been fed, oh they are angry and they're.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Not looking forward to the next one.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
And if somebody, God forbid doesn't like it and has
to leave the set to go and get lunch, Oh yes,
then all kinds of problems can happen.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
And where is it?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeahway is it? Sway?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
You can't correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure
I sat at Kingspark and watched you in a Shakespeare
in the Park one night. Does that sound right? Would
you have done that in your career? I did about
ten seasons. Yeah, so surprised you didn't.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Only one the.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Reason so that night you're talking about getting the role,
but it was it was like the It was like
a standing ovation on the lawn.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
People appreciated the humor and the production so much, so
you must have loved doing that.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
I absolutely love doing that, And that was one of
those training grounds that we've lost it a little bit
for the Shakespeare in the Park because what Wa has
realized is that that Kings Park is such a beautiful place,
and we wear an outdoor people, so we want to
go and see stuff outdoors. So you know, you know,
if Jack Johnson's coming to play, he's going to play
(26:19):
in the park, because why not?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
This is magnificent.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, and he can play two nights and the King's
Park will make more money than they will than three
months of Shakespeare in the Park.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But that's okay, We'll find other ways. We've got lots
of beautiful theaters.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
It was great doing Shakespeare in the Park when you're
projecting at the bottom of a hill up to the
top of a hill of five six hundred people with
the wind blowing directly across you.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
So your voice.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yeah, Well, the party boat goes by, and the kooka
burrough just stole someone's piece of chicken.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Like to hold an audience with all of that going on,
it was very very regular.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well for anyone, doesn't matter how old they are, thinking,
I would like to take advantage of what's happening in
this industry and get involved. What would you suggest is
the one place they start? I mean, you know, we
talk about getting involved with community theater.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Groups, but where do they start? What do they google?
What are they looking up to? It's a really rate question.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Where do you look? You just google local theater?
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Yeah, I mean there are a few out there. Yeah,
and they need people, they want people. They are building
a community like joam Is. They have their group of
people and they are always welcoming and it's about putting
it on. And you might go, I just want to
be involved, but I don't like being on stage, and
most people don't like being on stage. So what I
(27:45):
want to do is sell tickets. No, great, your front
of house or get somebody smiles and takes your ticket. Yeah,
and it is part of that way. Or maybe you
do want to be on stage. Great, you get up there,
you audition, You start with a small part, they go, oh, yeah,
he's not bad. Yeah, the next part you get a
little bit bigger and before you know it, it goes
on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yes, start there.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Classes I think are really good thing for people to
do because you can try something out. If you ever
want to do stand up comedy, try stand up comedy class.
You may hate it, but you tried it, you were
brave enough.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's great.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
You know. If you want to go painting, try watercolors
for a little while. Any bit of creativity keeps the
heart and the soul and the mind active in a
very different way. Yeah, I don't know who you're, where
you are, and where your community is. But just have
a look for their theater and go along and see
a show. Yes, go along and see a show because
start networking. Yeah, if you love it. A class with
(28:45):
any murder monks. She told me you'd be good for
sci fi, Dani.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Sci fi.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
With your height and your voice, you'd be good for
sci fi. I mean, I'm not going to disagree with
any murder monks. She knows starting to make a sci
fi movie.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You're in it. Absolutely. The gig is the freak.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
All right, Well, this is all good information and what's
coming up at the Barking Gecko Theater.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But we look forward to Gecko Theater. We've got House,
which is a remount you may have seen House before.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
It's an incredibly beautiful show where rang out at the
Octagon Theater at UWA that starts November sometime.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Checking.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I love anything that you talking about outdoor stuff that's.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Octagon.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Yeah, it's beautiful. And then we've got shows on next
year which I'll let you know next year. Keep in
touch too long. Yes, it's fantastic, Thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
No worry more cle.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
More Lisa More podcast soon there's sure report on ninety
six airm.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Alec Baldwin's movie Rust is going to make its debut
at the Polish film festival Cameramage next month to honor
Helena Hutchins, the Ukrainian cinematographer who died on the set.
You know, it's been three years since the shooting on
the Rust set. The director who took over after she died.
Helena says this is the perfect way to warner Hutchins
(30:11):
because Camrimage is the most widely known film festival that
is solely focused on cinematography. John Boyega from The Woman
King and the more recent Star Wars movies I Mean
Like You Know from twenty fifteen, sixteen nineteen seven has
been lined up to play the late soul legend Otis
(30:31):
Redding in a movie about his life. Redding's burgeoning superstar
career was tragically cut short when he died in a
nineteen sixty seven plane crash, aged just twenty six. The
upcoming new legal drama All's Fair, with Kim Kardashian playing
a lawyer inspired by her very own divorce lawyer, is
well and truly going ahead. Modern Family star ed Neil
(30:52):
has joined the cast, and a pretty impressive cast. It
already is as well as Ed Kim Kay, it's got
Glenn Close, Hell Naomi Watts.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Sarah Paulson, La he going to town here.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well, it's being made by Ryan Murphy, you know, the
great TV maker, and most recently he's just made that
Menendez Monsters.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So he did the Duma one and now he's done
the Menandez Ones. And here is a cute story.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Back in two thousand and three, Caitlin Hale and Angelo
Massagli played students Marta and Frankie in that fantastic Jack
Black movie School of Rock. They were ten and eleven
years old at the time. And today they've announced they're engaged.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
No, I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Apparently apparently they got together a few years ago through
a group chat the School of Rock kids still have going.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh that is so cool.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
They're engaged. Congratulations. Angus turns up and plays for their
first walls. How durable is that? It's great? I love that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Today the word bravery is getting bandied around Perth Lease.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh yes, yes, tell me why.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Royal Life Saving West Australians have shown incredible bravery in
saving people and the number. The number today is fifty seven,
the operative number fifty seven individuals who've acted selflessly in
critical moments to save others, and the twenty twenty four
Royal Life Saving Awards are going to be held today.
They're in Kings Park at the State Reception Center.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh, congratulations to everyone involved. People are incredible, aren't they
under pressure? They don't even give us a thought to
the pressures.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You know, people racingto houses and rescue people in the
up cars.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Superhuman, But those cases of where you develop superhuman strength,
it is incredible.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
In the moment of you know, the adrenaline.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I guess, yeah, maybe the adrenaline factors into any you know,
bravery moment sometimes throughout.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Thinking yeah, and you see them on the news and
they're going, no, not a hero. Anyone would have done it. No, not,
anyone would have done it. Some people are different kinds
of space.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Some people are running the other way, Some people are
walking past with their head down, tending they didn't even
see what's going.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Nothing going on here, keep moving. And some people just
do there. They're so selfless in the way that they
do it. It is incredible and I'm really we stuck
that people are getting awards today.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
It's quite a number.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Give us a call today with acts of bravery.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Might have done one, You might have seen one. Yeah,
you might have been the receiver of one. You might
have been the one carried out on the shoulder of
some hulking, beautiful firefighter.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Sorry, you're right. I would probably do it for one
of my animals.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh yes, but it would be you would go into
a different zone, wouldn't You wouldn't be thinking logically and
you work. You would just be thinking, yeah, of course cy,
but you.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Would just be checking. You would just be thinking, got
to get a dog?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah, because you're not thinking about yourself if now you
might get burnt or spokenlation and all that kind of stuff.
People do it just without without that second thought. It's
it's very coold what the people have made.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
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Speaker 5 (00:26):
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Good morning Lace, Good morning Clarzy.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Yes, the silly season starts today in the AFL it's
called it's called Trade Week.
Speaker 7 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
People people just lie in bed dreaming up crazy ideas.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Basically like having those cards when we were kids and saying,
I'll give you a you know, for one of those
but for grown.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Ups, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's exactly right?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
And it can try anything on because at the moment,
with Tasmania around the corner, everyone's doing crazy deals. So
in my view, I Reckon Frio should be ringing up
Sydney and saying, listen, Chad Warner, get him out. We'll
give you three first round picks and if they start
talking about they go it didn't really mean three, but
how about two?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Just exactly, I've got some picks and.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
This one to suck him in to start, because once
they make that transition of thinking about it, like Jack Darling,
he'll be the first one done, the first trade done,
probably today this morning probably And.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Is that up to North Melbourne?
Speaker 8 (01:27):
I know?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But does that surprise you? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Well, it surprises me.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
He's got one year to run on his contract and
they've given him two plus. If he hits some sort
of targets, like games targets, he'll get a third. So
it could play with this thirty five. So easy decision
for me, isn't it three versus one?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, there are a lot of looking at his stats,
it was several games we didn't get many possessions this year,
and then were a couple of games he got twenty on.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So North are going, oh, they see some upside obviously.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Yeah, and I'm excited about seeing Waterman and Oscar Allen
working together, you know. So there's no out of the
way Jack Jack out of the way. But the funny
bit is least that they get picked sixty four for
him exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You justn't like have to wear that jumper North does it.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
It's not even the steak knives. Yeah, that's right, that
one number sixty. You'll look funny and blow and white,
tom brass tough. Obviously. Tommy said that he wants to
go to Hawthorne. It looks like being for their pick
thirteen will go to West Coast. That might take a
bit longer because he's got a three year contract. So
(02:31):
Hawthorne really have to deliver on that pick thirteen, and
if they don't, then the Eagles can go. You know
what you're not going. Can't guess what that's sucked in, Tommy,
you're staying. I know that you gave a beautiful speech
to the best and fairest said you wanted to go,
but you've got three years to run.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So just sounds like all the contract does these days
is give you a little bit of bargaining power exactly
for your agent leverage, a little bit of leverage.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
So if that happens, pick thirteen goes to the Eagles
and then they send that to Richmond for Liam Baker.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Baker wants to come over, which.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
You could say is over the odds. I mean he's
Baker as.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Good a player as Tom Brass. Probably not great.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Let's make Hawthorne even stronger. We're sending Tommy over.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah exactly, and Leam Baker coming to West Coast. A
big price to play for Bakes. He's a boy from
a wheat and sheep farm in Pingering. Pingering fifty k's
north of Lake Grace.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Sounds like a made up wheat belt name isn't he.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Grew up idolizing that five But he's a big eagles man.
Four hour drive from Perth, then Vice c Bak to Richmond.
He looked a bit disheveled at the Best and Fairest.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It was an awkward speech.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
It was a really awkward speech at the Pickering look
he had.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
A couple too many frothies.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Perhaps wow on hang On, new magazine sold.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
At the end of the season. He's you know, he
wasn't playing anymore.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I'm not sure, but he didn't have his tie done
up and out.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
They have people on staff to make sure that they
you know.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
When you're leaving now the garment, when you look as
bad as possible.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fair enough when you're leaving. So I'm not leaving the night.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Leaving the clo, but he didn't really know what to say.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Getty Bart and Tom Brass gave one of the all
time great farewell addresses, and Bakes probably somewhere down to
the undercooker. And on the back of this audio you
also here Shaye Bolton. He's trying to leave as well,
but he clearly did not want to say anything. He
was not giving anything away, whereas Bakes was trying to
say goodbye without getting in trouble.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
From far this is I just want to thank thank
my teammates, thank my coaches, Thanks my partner I seen
back at home, just couldn't be at the moment because
I got another one on the way.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So that's it. And yeah, that's it for me, So
thank you. I'll speak for me and Shay.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
No. Actually, it's been a great year and I appreciate
everything that there the club's done for for myself and
my family over over the years and this year, and
I'm looking forward to what the club does in the future.
And yeah, I can't wait to support it and yeah
(05:18):
it's going to be it's going to be great looking
from afar.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So thank you for having and take it.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Easy, Take it easy, mate, what are they gen z
calls that lit lip that he was a bit lit.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't think he was very lit at all, not literally.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
It was awkward and he said I'm going to support
it from afar, so he's on the way out.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
But with that shame Shaye Bolton, Shay, it's Shay shape Bolton.
If he goes to Freemant or Clerguy, I think you
agree with this. It's like that scene out of Jerry maguire.
Remember when he said to Rene's elwigga, what were the famous.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Words at the end of the movie. Do you remember that?
And Jerry McGuire.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Shove me the money.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
That's what he said to Fremantle, show me to my
dad did and what he said now, but what he said,
what had Freemantle said to him was you complete me?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
At least you're right.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Mate. Good lines, because that will complete Freemantle. They get him.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
They're getting down there with Freddie and Twitter and that
in the forward line.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, they might.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And Richmond last to pick nine and ten, you know
what I mean, So and the Freemantle should say nay, he's.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Not having picked nine and ten getting it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Get one of those.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
We might we might get because he picket Clayton Oliver
wants to go to Geelong. That's a nozzle there at Melbourne.
You know, we love you man, We look after Clayton,
no worries. And on the side they're going, hey, cats,
you want to take him. He's got six more years
in his contract worth ten million and they have gone
how much. No, he can stay. So he's been urged
to attend the Melbourne Best and Fairest tonight. If he's
(06:58):
not there, that means he's walked out.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
How's this week?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Josh Josh Battle from Saint Kilda. He's he told the club, look,
I'm leaving and they said, well, don't come to the
Best and Fairest then stay home, don't.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
We don't want to see you. And he came to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think that sucks a bit. Really, that's pretty ordinary.
I think that's pretty ordinary.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I think he's given one hundred and seventy on games service.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, that's you know that. That that's really ordinary.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I just put the boots into him, didn't men. She
was like he didn't exist the back.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It kind of seems very childish to me.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Actually, it might be a ross Lyne decision there, so
no more. Tim Kelly's manager has been trying to see
what's happening because he's only got one year to run
his contract. Yeah, and apparently he's run. They rang up
free and free. I went, yeah, nah.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
At twenty three year olds at free.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Thirty he's yeah, but he's because he when when they
tried to recruit him back here, he said, yeah, no free,
come here.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Long TK.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Sorry mate, and then Jesse Hogan, I wanted to mention
this guy quickly. Joe Danaher too. He retired after the
grand final. So they won the premiership and retired. And
Chris Fagan last night of the Best and Fairest, the
coach revealed that Danaher had told him if they'd won
the premiership last year, he would have retired. Oh ok,
but I'll bat on for one year more. And now
he's retired, which is very strange.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sellwood, if he retired after a flag yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Just going in on top. But I wanted to play
this Jesse Hogan audio, that's all right. I know a
bit late, but you know he lost his dad, he
had testicular cancer, mental health issues here at Freeman or
behavioral issues. Then he sort of decided he needed to
grow up. The Giants embraced him. It was one of
footy's greatest comebacks. He was nearly finished, no one wanted him.
(08:46):
His manager, Jason Doave, a friend of mine, had to
tell the giants, no, we've got other officers. No you haven't, No,
no we have, and so they got him through him
a lifeline and now he's won the goal kicking, the
common Medal in the AFL and the Best and Fairest.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
And this is what he said last night.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
We were bluffing to the giants that we had other
teams interested.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not everyone had pulled out.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
So if you guys didn't, if you guys didn't take
a chance to me, I don't know if I'd actually
even been in the league today.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So I'll be for everyone grateful for that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, thank you ever so beautiful story, one of the
great comeback an agent bluffing, that's unusual, but.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
That is one of the great comeback stories of the AFL.
There's one more Grand Final to go on Sunday. Actually
it's the NRL Grand Final, so the Rugby League, and
remarkably it hasn't sold out, so I'm not sure what's
going on, Whether people don't like that a core stadium
or whatever, or it's too expensive.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
They're more sit down to earth in the NRL.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
I was about to say South Sydney Rabbits because the
major entertainment is the kid LAROI. Now it's the kid LaRoy,
not just kid LAROI. Did you play any of the
kid LaRoy?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We don't, We don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
He's twenty one.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I like him.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
The great documentary about him on Prime Video called The
Kids Growing Up.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You can't have a doc twenty one, but.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You can just about Cam when you've been going as
long as he has.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Really love him in the States too, Yeah he's had.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
He's proud indigenous boy.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah mum, I think is yeah, and yeah, it's a
great it's a really interesting story.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
South Sydney rabbit oz fan. So that goes well there.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Good to see Australian music being supported by the NRL.
Follows up from last year though, when they had the
cast of Tina for the Tina Turner musical.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I remember that TENA wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Though, wonderful before the game.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
So that's that's that's the big thing happening in the
NRL as well.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
You should take some back don't call him the the.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, you know you're the m if you.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Want to get some calls. The best five bands beginning
with ye Rolling Stones, that'd be right up.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
One better.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
The Beatles, they're one of my favorite.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They're great, great. Maddie Johnson. Yeah, he's too good.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
He's already got one and two, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones,
the who Who they would challenge. There you go for
ours Killers, he's too good. Now let's talk about cricket.
There's been an announcement now that the number of Shame
Worn Legacy hard check machines will double at the MCG this.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Year for the initiative. It I really fantastic.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, And Warner's families come out and said, it's been
so great to get so many letters from people who
have had their lives, lives changed and their lives saved possibly. Yeah,
And the quote was from his son. Every such letter
we receive eases our pain of losing warning a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's a great thing to say. Well, I heard that
in the news last night.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Was beautiful, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The brook was there and so that's happening.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I just wanted to mention that the best young kids
left yesterday for what they call the combine, the National Combine,
So they go over there. So there's fourteen of our
best young people, boys and girls, you know, young people,
Yeah not they young seventeen year olds, teenagers going over
there to be tested ahead of the draft, all right,
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and two of them are I'm friends with their family,
Hamish Davis and Will Hayes. They've been together from kindergarten
at Rosalie Primary School and they've made it all the
way through to now perhaps joining the AFL set for
two k time trial. Hamish is aiming at six minutes
fifteen for two kilometers, so runners will be listening going
what six minutes fifteen for two kilometers? That is full
(12:45):
blow and sprinting for two kilometers leaked thing. Yeah, they
do the vertical, they do the twenty meters sprint agility
as well. Bo Allen is the best west Ossie male
pel Premiership players. So good luck to the young people
there as well, and just so great to see them
doing so well. And we were knocked about we haven't
got many great kids this year, but I think we have.
(13:06):
The Wildcats are on tonight. Melbourne United has jetted across
the country to clash with them. How's this the record
in the West for Melbourne United. They've beaten the Cats
in eight of their last nine meetings, so the Cats
really need to win. They need to buck the odds there.
That's their third consecutive game at rac Arena. So I
wish the Cats all the best. And as I go out,
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I just wanted to mention the Telethon derby at lead
of all Oval.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
So this is the afl.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
W derby move from op It's.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Going to be a cracker because both the teams are
in the eight in the finals. It's October nineteenth, the
Saturday ahead of Telethon, should be sold out early. Get
involved in the game because there are donations being made
to telephone as well.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And the Eagles have never beaten.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
The Dockers six tries seventh, so it's going to be
a crack of daisy Is versus the Dockers. Webby, Lisa
and Webbe and that probably the biggest afl W game
we've had in the state, full stop. So I get
along if you can. October nineteenth. That's all from me,
my friends, all right, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, that was sport with enjoyed the kid LaRoy, Yeah,
sport with the Adrian Barrish.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's more more Lisa, more podcasts soon, Cleary and Lisa's.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
How to Make It in wap in This Sun and
I'll make you a star.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
As we continue to you know, it's a case of
stick with me, I'll make you a star. Looking at
you know, the development of West Australia, Sam is a
you can forget New York, New York.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's just York York. It's a new hub, isn't it.
It is the new hub.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
And You've been at the center of the hub of
acting in WA for quite some time.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Yeah, thirty odd years, very very odd years actually, when
I say it out loud, Yeah, And I've done everything
from you know, from stage plays in undercover areas in
primary schools to His Majesty's theater, the Heath Ledger film,
TV radio.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I've done the full gamut, full gamut.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Now I've actually my first ever professional gigs with Barking
Gecko Theater Company back in the early nineties and a
few months ago.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You've come from full.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Circle now the artistic director of Barking Geckoy's.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wonderful Barking Gecko has been a stayer. Yeah, five years, Yeah,
thirty five years.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
And as I'm sure you guys know, we just recently
announced that we have merged with Awesome Festival.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So are now Barking Gecko Arts were presents.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
The Awesome International Children's Festival, so we're even bigger, even stronger.
This should allow us to reach more kids and do
more shows and have more art in.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It's not an accident marking Gecko has survived because of
some hard graft.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Hard work, yep, a lot of talent.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
What does it answer the question what does it take
to make it in this industry?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Wow? Okay, that's a great question.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I think.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
No, I think you've hit it on the grit and
determination is a part of it. Yeah, there are, as
you guys know, there are so many facets to the industry.
If we're talking about what it takes to be to
make it as an actor, I mean, it's so ethereal
we don't we don't know, We really don't know. If
anyone could say, well, this is the magic thing that
makes it happen everyone to be going great, I'll just
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do that.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
People talk about the it factor. No one knows what
it is, but you've got it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, not many. You know that Heath Ledger magic.
That's you know, we'll just go bag And you.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Can see it sometimes with people, that little twinkle in
their eye, the way they inhabit a role, just go oh,
look she was perfect in that. But she may have
done a really bad audition for the previous show and
they went, yeah, no, not her. It's very very it's
really we and the industry, the performing arts, is one
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of the few industries where they can totally not give
you the role because of how you look. Go to
another job interview, the color of your hair doesn't matter.
In fact, your gender shouldn't matter. Your skills on the
paper that's what counts. But even you go on audition
for a role and they just go, boom, she's got it.
We need her what It doesn't matter if you've got
(17:24):
a degree or not. It doesn't matter whether you've been
to whop her or not. It's whether or not you've
got what they need just for that particular role. Essence
the essence, and it depends on the director. If I'm directing,
I'm looking for something might be different from when Andrew
Gibbs is directing, and she's looking for something as well.
And then every role and then what that. So there's
a big chunk of luck in there. Of good friend
(17:45):
Sam Murray, she was auditioning for a film and she
just wasn't feeling it. She was at work, she was
like so many other actors. She was making coffee and
clearing dishes and her friend turner and said, are you
supposed to be somewhere? And she's like what, oh the
audition and had totally spaced it, so was not prepared.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Didn't gust yourself up.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
She basically before she even got to the audition, She's like,
I'm not getting this.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
There's no way I'm getting this. I'm not spared. I've
still got you know, mocker on my t shirt.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Went in there, didn't give a crap, did the audition,
walked out, went back to her shift, never thought anything
of it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
A week later, her.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Agent calls and goes, so, Harvey, ca, I tell love
what you did and you're in the film.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
She was like, what So I just don't have to
care and assume I don't have it. And on that date,
on that particular day, it might have been the magic
to it, and that might have been where we don't
trying too hard or.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Who knows how to impress? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Wow, it's not for the fainthearted, is it. I mean,
let's be real. You got to have a fairly thick skin,
you really do.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
I mean, any performative industry where you can be judged
by the populace, guaranteed thirty percent of people are going
to hate you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of course, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
They're going to and you have to go, yeah, that's fine,
You're allowed to hate me. That's okay. You do have
to have a thick skin. In with auditioning. When I
was an actor and I still am, my rule was
rule of ten. You do ten auditions and you might
get a callback on one, So you have to be
to fail nine times if you're not prepared to fail,
and if you take it personally, after nine times of
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personal you didn't get it, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Going to hurt.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
You know, you're going to feel crashed. So if you go, no, no,
I didn't get that one's fine, I'm close to my tent.
And then when you get one gig.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
You've rolled up to the audition, so you've got to
see that as a successful step already.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Absolutely top If you get the wrong exactly and I
had one active friend of mine said, oh, the work
is auditioning when you get the role, that's what you
do for love and they pay you. But work is
learning stuff for a show that you never end up
getting on and all of that. But look in Perth
we are we are doing far more stuff here now
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and so we are starting to Yeah, and Awesome is
putting on a lot of shows and they always back
w a first bucking Gecko. Our new thing is West
Australian First, where possible gender equality on our shows. West
Australian Artists first. And that's how we're rolling out and
that means we will have some people from the East,
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but we're going to We've got enough talent here.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We've got so much talent.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We've got the best training school in the Southern Hemisphere.
I mean, Whopper is just I've always wanted to bring
out a bumper sticker that says, Whopper, they go in, good,
they come out.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The world.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The number of people that go to Nider while they're
you know, trying to or any of the other ones
over East while they're trying to get to the Great Whopper.
But it's you know, I mean, if you're really really keen.
You probably want to start even earlier. What local theater.
Local theater groups are they a thing that you can
get involved in.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean, I didn't go to Whopper. I taught it.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
To get in and looking back at my young self,
I wouldn't have let me in either. I didn't prepare
well enough.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I was long and lanky. I didn't quite fit in
the neighbours model, which they at the time. I believe
Whopper had it very much. You've got to be this height,
you've got to be blonde, and you've got to beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And they've thrown that out the classes.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Now at Whopper, they've realized that diversity is very much
something we have to right and they're they're really great.
I cannot speak highly enough of Whopper. But I went
and I trod the boards in the local community theater
to begin with, and then I did.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The independent theater. I did the blue room route and
I just worked.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Yeah, I just did show after show after show, and
I was a bartender the whole time, trying to get
paid along the way. And yeah, and I made a
full time professional career for twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
It's amazing because I went with my son to a
JOm show on the weekend. Yeah, Jones Boy Theater, and
it was so much fun. Now, these people aren't getting paid,
but they're loving their craft and the people in the crowd,
I said, the lest is only thirty odd seats in
that theater. The people in the next two productions, and
then mates of the people on stage cheering and joining in,
and it was just a joy to be there.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Yeah. And Jamie is a really good example of people
doing art for the sake of doing art and to
make themselves happy.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yes, and to be creative.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
And I think everybody needs a creative outlet in some way,
whether it's you know, you glue pop sticks together and
make wind Chinese. I think that's legitimate mental health, having
some spot of creativity, to be able to look at
a piece of art, whether it's a poem or a
sculpture or a piece of theater.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And go my brain, my heart went into that. Yeah.
And I built that. Yeah, And I think, and I
don't know if you did same. When you listen back
to your radio show, you can go a little bit
of pride in that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But it's a solid I mean, it's a solid base
for anything else in life too, especially when you're considering
theater and you are very big with improv. And I've
always said improv sorts separates the men from the boys.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And there's a thing to go It's one thing to
go into something with a script.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's another thing to go in with a word or
an idea or something and then a way you go.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
See, I've done it to line away from dying up.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
There exactly, and that's going to set you up for
your job, interviews, life, just life in general.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Any kind of creativity helps, I think, expand the mind
and teaches people to attack a problem from a different
point of view.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And AI isn't doing that. No humans are doing that.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
And human creativity is one of those things that AI
is trying to do or we're trying to do with
a I'm not quite sure where those lines are, but
it's one thing that will always be something that humans
will will be better at, in my opinion, that creativity,
that problem solving.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And any kind of art form you can do, you're
going to No. I was just going to say.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
The great thing about this industry becoming such a big
thing in w ways, it's not just treading the boards
or in front of the camera.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Either.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
There's so many great ways to you know, have a
career around around it, behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
On stage, stage, everybody on stage, you see there's three
or four people backstage. When you go into film and TV,
you multiply that by ten.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Yeah, So that actor she's up there doing a fantastic job.
But first she was in the in the hair and
makeup trailer. Before that she was in costuming, and before
that she was with a Third a d And before
that she was with craft services. And so just there's
this multitude of people who are all creating something beautiful,
something worthwhile watching. In most cases that enhances the whole
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of our community, our cultural conversation, our society, and is
making w a bigger and stronger I think culturally.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And sheistically you mentioned catering because that's where I'd be.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Hard to get you. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Look, if you don't get catering right on a film shoot,
the whole thing can fall apart because for the next
two hours post lunch, all the crews and the cast
are talking about but when the cameras aren't rolling, is
how good lunch was?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
All they're all they're bitching about it.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
And if they're if they're doing ten hour days and
they haven't been fed, oh they are angry and they're.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Not looking forward to the next one.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
And if somebody, God forbid doesn't like it and has
to leave the set to go and get lunch, Oh yes,
then all kinds of problems can happen.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
And where is it?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeahway is it? Sway?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
You can't correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure
I sat at Kingspark and watched you in a Shakespeare
in the Park one night. Does that sound right? Would
you have done that in your career? I did about
ten seasons. Yeah, so surprised you didn't.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Only one the.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Reason so that night you're talking about getting the role,
but it was it was like the It was like
a standing ovation on the lawn.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
People appreciated the humor and the production so much, so
you must have loved doing that.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
I absolutely love doing that, And that was one of
those training grounds that we've lost it a little bit
for the Shakespeare in the Park because what Wa has
realized is that that Kings Park is such a beautiful place,
and we wear an outdoor people, so we want to
go and see stuff outdoors. So you know, you know,
if Jack Johnson's coming to play, he's going to play
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in the park, because why not?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
This is magnificent.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, and he can play two nights and the King's
Park will make more money than they will than three
months of Shakespeare in the Park.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But that's okay, We'll find other ways. We've got lots
of beautiful theaters.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
It was great doing Shakespeare in the Park when you're
projecting at the bottom of a hill up to the
top of a hill of five six hundred people with
the wind blowing directly across you.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
So your voice.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yeah, Well, the party boat goes by, and the kooka
burrough just stole someone's piece of chicken.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Like to hold an audience with all of that going on,
it was very very regular.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well for anyone, doesn't matter how old they are, thinking,
I would like to take advantage of what's happening in
this industry and get involved. What would you suggest is
the one place they start? I mean, you know, we
talk about getting involved with community theater.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Groups, but where do they start? What do they google?
What are they looking up to? It's a really rate question.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Where do you look? You just google local theater?
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Yeah, I mean there are a few out there. Yeah,
and they need people, they want people. They are building
a community like joam Is. They have their group of
people and they are always welcoming and it's about putting
it on. And you might go, I just want to
be involved, but I don't like being on stage, and
most people don't like being on stage. So what I
(27:45):
want to do is sell tickets. No, great, your front
of house or get somebody smiles and takes your ticket. Yeah,
and it is part of that way. Or maybe you
do want to be on stage. Great, you get up there,
you audition, You start with a small part, they go, oh, yeah,
he's not bad. Yeah, the next part you get a
little bit bigger and before you know it, it goes
on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yes, start there.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Classes I think are really good thing for people to
do because you can try something out. If you ever
want to do stand up comedy, try stand up comedy class.
You may hate it, but you tried it, you were
brave enough.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's great.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
You know. If you want to go painting, try watercolors
for a little while. Any bit of creativity keeps the
heart and the soul and the mind active in a
very different way. Yeah, I don't know who you're, where
you are, and where your community is. But just have
a look for their theater and go along and see
a show. Yes, go along and see a show because
start networking. Yeah, if you love it. A class with
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any murder monks. She told me you'd be good for
sci fi, Dani.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Sci fi.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
With your height and your voice, you'd be good for
sci fi. I mean, I'm not going to disagree with
any murder monks. She knows starting to make a sci
fi movie.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You're in it. Absolutely. The gig is the freak.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
All right, Well, this is all good information and what's
coming up at the Barking Gecko Theater.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But we look forward to Gecko Theater. We've got House,
which is a remount you may have seen House before.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
It's an incredibly beautiful show where rang out at the
Octagon Theater at UWA that starts November sometime.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Checking.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I love anything that you talking about outdoor stuff that's.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Octagon.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Yeah, it's beautiful. And then we've got shows on next
year which I'll let you know next year. Keep in
touch too long. Yes, it's fantastic, Thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
No worry more cle.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
More Lisa More podcast soon there's sure report on ninety
six airm.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Alec Baldwin's movie Rust is going to make its debut
at the Polish film festival Cameramage next month to honor
Helena Hutchins, the Ukrainian cinematographer who died on the set.
You know, it's been three years since the shooting on
the Rust set. The director who took over after she died.
Helena says this is the perfect way to warner Hutchins
(30:11):
because Camrimage is the most widely known film festival that
is solely focused on cinematography. John Boyega from The Woman
King and the more recent Star Wars movies I Mean
Like You Know from twenty fifteen, sixteen nineteen seven has
been lined up to play the late soul legend Otis
(30:31):
Redding in a movie about his life. Redding's burgeoning superstar
career was tragically cut short when he died in a
nineteen sixty seven plane crash, aged just twenty six. The
upcoming new legal drama All's Fair, with Kim Kardashian playing
a lawyer inspired by her very own divorce lawyer, is
well and truly going ahead. Modern Family star ed Neil
(30:52):
has joined the cast, and a pretty impressive cast. It
already is as well as Ed Kim Kay, it's got
Glenn Close, Hell Naomi Watts.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Sarah Paulson, La he going to town here.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well, it's being made by Ryan Murphy, you know, the
great TV maker, and most recently he's just made that
Menendez Monsters.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So he did the Duma one and now he's done
the Menandez Ones. And here is a cute story.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Back in two thousand and three, Caitlin Hale and Angelo
Massagli played students Marta and Frankie in that fantastic Jack
Black movie School of Rock. They were ten and eleven
years old at the time. And today they've announced they're engaged.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
No, I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Apparently apparently they got together a few years ago through
a group chat the School of Rock kids still have going.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh that is so cool.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
They're engaged. Congratulations. Angus turns up and plays for their
first walls. How durable is that? It's great? I love that.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Today the word bravery is getting bandied around Perth Lease.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh yes, yes, tell me why.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Royal Life Saving West Australians have shown incredible bravery in
saving people and the number. The number today is fifty seven,
the operative number fifty seven individuals who've acted selflessly in
critical moments to save others, and the twenty twenty four
Royal Life Saving Awards are going to be held today.
They're in Kings Park at the State Reception Center.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh, congratulations to everyone involved. People are incredible, aren't they
under pressure? They don't even give us a thought to
the pressures.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You know, people racingto houses and rescue people in the
up cars.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Superhuman, But those cases of where you develop superhuman strength,
it is incredible.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
In the moment of you know, the adrenaline.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I guess, yeah, maybe the adrenaline factors into any you know,
bravery moment sometimes throughout.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Thinking yeah, and you see them on the news and
they're going, no, not a hero. Anyone would have done it. No, not,
anyone would have done it. Some people are different kinds
of space.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Some people are running the other way, Some people are
walking past with their head down, tending they didn't even
see what's going.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Nothing going on here, keep moving. And some people just
do there. They're so selfless in the way that they
do it. It is incredible and I'm really we stuck
that people are getting awards today.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
It's quite a number.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Give us a call today with acts of bravery.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Might have done one, You might have seen one. Yeah,
you might have been the receiver of one. You might
have been the one carried out on the shoulder of
some hulking, beautiful firefighter.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Sorry, you're right. I would probably do it for one
of my animals.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh yes, but it would be you would go into
a different zone, wouldn't You wouldn't be thinking logically and
you work. You would just be thinking, yeah, of course cy,
but you.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Would just be checking. You would just be thinking, got
to get a dog?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah, because you're not thinking about yourself if now you
might get burnt or spokenlation and all that kind of stuff.
People do it just without without that second thought. It's
it's very coold what the people have made.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Cley Lisa ninety six aven
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Mm hmm,
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