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October 10, 2024 13 mins

In Clairsy & Lisa’s final installment of How To Make It In WA, they spoke to Perth actor  Joel Jackson who has found fame both here and overseas. He told the guys how important having a film studio here in Perth is to the industry and had some tips for budding actors.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Clearsy and Lisa's How It's a majest in Wa.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
So been this sun, I'll make.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
You a start.

Speaker 4 (00:06):
This has been fascinating mid our burgeoning film and movie
industry that's happening in w Way.

Speaker 5 (00:14):
We've spoken to the.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Minister about the Malaga Film Studios. We've spoken to a
casting director, We've spoken to the costume person who's spoken to.

Speaker 5 (00:24):
The guy that holds the big ferry microphone just out of.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Shot today, wrapping it up with the pinnacle of getting
into the industry. Known for starring as Peter Allen in
Not the Boy next Door, Deadline, Gallipoli, and most recently Runt,
to name just a few things, Way born and bred
logi and actor winner Joel Jackson, Good morning, Mike, Welcome,
Good morning gang.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
How are you? Thank you for the very beautiful introduction.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
For taking time out of your very busy schedule to
have a chat to us, because I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'd kick starting to day with a bunch of marts.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Why not, Joel? Would you would agree?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I'm sure that this is a very exciting time in
the WA industry.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's one I mean. On Wednesday night, we hosted the
very first ever Australian World Travel Tourism Council dinner and
the first summit that's ever happened here in Australia, let
alone in Western Australia. But to see the scale of
the entertainment industry and then to see the interest in
people from overseas asking me about the studios and asking

(01:35):
about what they expected and what can we look forward to,
it was really special because you start to go everybody
else outside of Australia is also taking notice.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, and that's the key, isn't it to get that
international interest. So it's locals and from across the country
and around the world in visiting us working.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's the same things what happens at BILLI d Roadshow
or around those other busier kind of significant studios is
that people come to visit, they come to sit locations
and it's a whole other part of the tourism industry
which is incredibly exciting. But that's yeah, that's outside of our.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
And then and then it just snowballs because they see
our locations and they see, you know what Nick Cage
is doing down South, Wow, what an amazing location. And
they see York and think all that's York that is,
you know, as as Craig Sylvie said, effortlessly cinematic. I
just love his description of York. God where you just made.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You give Craig Sylvie. Yeah, you give Craig Sylvie a
chance to use the English language. You're going to get
a master class.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's like wordsmith or something.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
You should write right, thanky paper one of these days. Yeah. Excitingly,
he should ever cracked, he should ever crack at it.
This morning, really excitingly. I just opened my social media
to see that he'd actually announced that they've been approved
to do this sequel for twenty twenty five the book. Fantastic,

(02:55):
very good.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Oh that is beautiful, awesome news. He's just a He's
a gem. So you I said, born and bred and
that is It couldn't be any truer really, because.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Am I right? You were born in Albany, but then.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Dad was a primary school principle and that took you
to Karatha at about ten, which is very different, you
know extreme.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, you get like solid granite rock in the Great
Southern Ocean to like the tip of the Indian Ocean
with this pointy, wonderful kind of coral coast and the
red Pin Dan Dust it was. It was amazing. But
like in saying that randomly too. Yesterday I bumped into
ten Winter in and Aphoia and just kidding, no, just

(03:43):
I was walking in and kind of get up ready
to go for this event, and saw him and dropped everything.
And when I have been meaning to find an opportunity
to meet you and talk to you for my entire
lifetime because we're so lucky in that Western Australia, the
creators here, I've been able to capture that land dscape.
And I think having moved up, the first audition I

(04:04):
ever did was for Lucky Leonard really in Albany, Yeah,
which is the wonderful Sean Keenan got.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Incredible and then y I should say yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And then when I headed to Kratha, the first opportunity
I had to kind of walk onto a film set.
I was working at the Rio Tinto salt mines the
time as a trade assistant as a ta, earning a
bit of money in school holidays, and I was filming.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Red Dog shidding, this is six degrees of separation in wa.
We spoke to Tim.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
That really launching Juice right, yes, exactly, a big fat
book of his beauty. Yeahs, I know. But the great
thing about it was that that opportunity to at least
get on to set. See back in the day, it
wasn't a thing where we're taken photo with an iPad

(05:00):
and putting it into an application that then orders it.
It was someone sitting there with a polaroid camera and
aglou stick and they take the polaroid camera of the
person's hands and what the makeup was doing, and what
they had on their hands, the ring to watch where
their collar was doing with the buttons, how many buttons,
if they had the belt on three or four notches,
like all these continuity things. And I'm just asking the

(05:22):
questions of the costume, make up, the dop team, going
what is going on here? And for someone like me
who loved sport and detail and the team aspect of
everyone playing their part, I just fell in love with
the mechanism more than I did the doing. And that
was my first kind of inkling of oh, I might

(05:43):
really like to investigate this.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
But when did you realize and I mean when did
you realize that you kind of have leading man qualities
not just to be you.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Know, doing that.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Dad will always say there's this old video of us
kids down at useless Loop with all the cousins and stuff,
and everyone else went away and did their thing, and
they got into groups and made their little on a show,
putting on a show, and I refused to work with anybody,
and I, yeah, I went into my winter bag. I

(06:17):
was like, me, give me my fizzy water, Karen, and
they'll be back out looking for your motivation as a youngster. Yeah, yeah,
what's my why? What's my wife? What I was about?
I s think I was about two or three, and
then it's still in ba Death and I just walked out,
and because I was trying to sing Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star, Get.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Star, so Dad will always go Yeah. From then on
we were like, yeah, you were going to be a
bit of a bit of a handful by yourself. But
I think the leading man, or at least the idea
of I can go and do this and pull it off,
was actually when I was at night, when I was
at school studying, I knew that I was incredibly different.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
So for the first year, half of the teachers called
me Karatha. That didn't call me by my name, all right,
And you know those schools in you know there's a
it's changed now, but it was a bit of a
thing of ten years ago. People would do that, you know,
building down to break you back out. But I was like, man,
I've played footy in the North Tilbera.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like you know what you don't Yeah, not necessarily a
standard that you're playing on it.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, No, I've been. I've been in the ruck against
Laurie Blood you late month players. Not a good player. Yeah,
he took me out. Yeah, he gave me my first
ever knockout. Got head to the knee.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. He can jump high that man.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Vertical ry yeah absolutely. But in the in the acting game,
I remember talking to Roger Corser one day, great actor,
and he was saying, I'm working. I'm working right now,
but next month I'm at the Wolf unpacking boxes and
sea containers. And it was like, oh, okay, even a
working actor has to have to have another job. It
can be one of those kind of gigs, kind of
in and out.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
It can be most definitely one of those. I was
just listening to something that Nick Offerman from Parks and
rec And who was one of the stars of alongside
another Aussie, Murray Bartlett, in the last of us in
that beautiful episode. It was just a standalone.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Brilliant, brilliant themselves.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Nick Offerman, who plays opposite Murray Bartlett, he.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Was married to Anna Statia beaver House and by the way,
right exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Right, yeah, gart Yes, But he he didn't really get
much of the like a big, big, solid break until
he was thirty eight on Parks and Red.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
He was working as an actor throughout and doing stand
up and bits and pieces. But he was saying, you know,
he realized that a lot of other people that he
knew and adored were incredible, talented and far more skillful
than he was. But they put all their joy seeking,
put all of their self worth into this career rather
than stepping outside of it and going, you know, like,

(09:11):
if I'm happy and I get to work in this place, incredible,
But if I don't get to work in that place,
can I still be happy? And that, I think is
such a beautiful key to the longevity of what we do.
Can't place and trust me, like I've learned at firsthand
coming from the first two things that I ever did

(09:32):
in this industry. Being recognized and awarded for a nomination
and a win for our the biggest award for a
TV actor in this country. And I was only twenty
two or twenty three years old when I did both
of them, and from then on you're going, well, everything
else has to be on that par right, You go, well, no,

(09:53):
you can't necessarily emulate all those things. And also those
things were incredibly incredible moments flash in the pan of
great people, great stories at a great time. That was
very necessary. But you can't then place all of your
self worth by going, well, that's what my that's what
my plateau is. You go, well, no, that's someone outside

(10:15):
of me going you deserve that. You well, thank you
very much, and then you can go back to yourself
and then on being incredibly happy in there. So regardless
of what hat you wear on what kind of day,
or what shoes you put on to step out into
that next part in your career, as long as you
can be solid in yourself the little tributaries and offshoots
that this career will give you, you'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
They are words to live by whatever you do.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Because I think this is the reason why a lot
of sports people suffer, because they may, you know, for
want of a better way of putting a peak early
and then they suffer because they're not giving themselves a
break for you know, you can do that.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
And then and then go on.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Joel, what are your top tips for an anyone who's
listening and thinking, I want to be Joel one day
or I want to just be in I want to
be in the industry in some capacity because it's such
an exciting industry to be in, and now is the
time to be doing it in way?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, very good call. My first one straight up the
bat is discipline Trump's motivation every single day.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Right, discipline Trump's motivation.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah. So you're only going to be as good as
your best effort. And if you continue to show up
and put in an f every day, the chances are
you're going to produce a lot of good efforts. Stephen
King had this beautiful quoite where he talked about the
fact of you know, the clubs wait for inspiration. The
rest of us just get up and work. And I

(11:45):
think it's wonderful because in this industry, you're never going
to get a pad on the back and you might
put in you know, we put in upwards of one
hundred job applications a year with auditions of course, and
you might hear back from three.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
So Sam Longley said this very.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Incredible man, and you know you you just have to go, Okay,
I'm going to put in my best effort and make
sure that I am doing it at the best of
my ability. Good advice don't don't sleep on technical advances.
So what I mean by that is the idea of
a self tape. At the moment and people are auditioning

(12:26):
around the world, there's this great theory that the world's
gone back to being flat because it's so well connected.
Like you know, it's just so easy to be able
to work with the casting direct in the UK or
the US and for them to make their shows here,
or for you to be all of a sudden be
getting a role in House of Dragons and shooting in
British Columbia or and all because if you shot something

(12:48):
on your iPhone. So if you want to work within
this industry, whether you be on you know, in front
of the camera or behind the camera, look at the
technical advances and listen to podcasts. Be go and take
someone out for coffee and say that's what you're asking
them out for to go. I just want to know

(13:09):
what you know, and I want to see the holes
in my own knowledge to understand this mechanism better so
that I can be as good as I can totally
and you know, and steal from YouTube. YouTube is the best.
Michelangelo would always say, like Michelangelo is not mate.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
It was big on.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
He good artists copy, great artists steal that.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Joel Jackson, listen. Thank you so much for joining us today.
It's always a treat.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Very excited, Bud.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Thanks, it's incredibly exciting.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Thanks great, great words to take away. Thank you, Joel,
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