March 16, 2023 • 13 mins
Topics discussed in today's episode:
- Justin is taking Kylie away for their 25th anniversary
- Kylie is trying new creative outlets
- Play is critical
- Doing hard things
- Justin is riding again
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
time poor parent who just wants answers.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now as they've seen me be open to trying new
experiences and to do something that kind of challenges me,
they're actually wanting to be a part of the process.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And now here's the stars of our show, my mom
and dad.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Right now, I can't get a song out of my
head Lenny Kravitz fly Away, Oh, get up.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I don't think I know that one. Oh, come on, No,
I'm thinking of John Denver's.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Leaving on a jet plane, leaven on a jet plane,
on a jet plane, Steve Miller band jet airliner.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And then I've got this crazy song. I don't even
know where it came from. It might not even be
a song. It just says, well, it's fine away.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I have no idea what that is, but I love
the way you've scrunched up your nose when you're saying it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, it's an invitation.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Just let's find why do you have.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Because yesterday you told me where you're taking me.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, so it's happening. This is our twenty fifth winning
anniversary weekend. We're heading away, We're leaving the kids literally well,
depending on when you listening to this, the podcast dropping
and in a few hours time we're out of here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're on a jet plane to Queenstown, like you sellen.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And where the temperature instead of the balmy, humid, muggy,
what like thirty plus degrees that it's been on the
Sunshine Coast, is going to be.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
About four degree.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I can't wait. It's going to be really exciting. Our
old thibeddit tomorrow. Today is not about our trip though,
our old thibed it tomorrow, as always, is about how
we can be better parents based on the experiences that
we've had with our parenting this past week. I wonder
if you want to go first today?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sure. So. One of the things that I have recognized
about myself for a very long time is I have
actually allowed fear to govern a lot of the choices
I makes. Yeah, a fear of failure, fear of just
making a mistake, fear of not getting it right, fear
of not understanding what it is I need to do
and therefore I'll just look silly, like, just so much
(02:24):
fear around that, and so over the years there's been
so many things that I want to try, but it's
literally stopped me from even contemplating whether or not it's possible,
because I just don't want to look silly.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So last week I was able to spend some time
at the health resort and just start to do some
deep diving into some of my own thought processes and
why I think the way I think and why I
do things the way I do. And as part of
that experience, I was actually able to try a couple
of craft experiences that I've wanted to do but have
been too scared to try before. One of them is
(02:59):
Potter I've actually done. I've played with clay a handful
of times, but again, just the experience hasn't been great.
There was just something different about this experience. The teacher
had everything prepped, so it was just it was a
really smooth process, and the group of girls that I
was with we just sat there and talked, so I
was kind of not really in my head. I was
(03:21):
just in the moment, you know, in the middle of
this conversation before I realized I'd completed this thing. And
then the other one was the same teacher, but he
got us weaving a basket out of palm fronds and
when I looked at it, I was like, this looks
really silly. But I woke up the next morning and
I was like, you know what, this is actually pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I made a basket. I made a basket which our
dogs subsequently tore apart.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Don't remind me plain Sorry, But that led to thinking
about all of these other creative outlets that I've wanted
to do but I haven't, and so ev Our wonderful.
What do you even call it these days? Do you
have a title?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, Evelyn is our. I don't know what the title is.
She titled herself, but she's important part of our team essential.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
She's a graphic designer. She's just jack of all trades.
This woman, she's amazing. And she was coming up to
spend a few days with you doing strategy and planning
for the next few months, and she said, I'm going
to bring up my art box and we're going to
sit down and we're going to do some art. And
so for a couple of nights while she was here,
I did something that I have never done before. And
(04:23):
not only did I love the process, what I really
loved was the fact that I was able to let
go and just enjoy doing very new experience for me,
especially in that creative space. Well, I came home and
the joy was having our nineteen year old, who is
very artistic, look at me and say, Mum, which one's
(04:45):
the OG? Do you know what OG stands for?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's the original?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, me, I had no idea what she was talking about. Okay,
so she was pretty impressed. And then obviously all of
the other kids came in and they had a look
and they saw what I had done, and they were
very excited to see.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I did another one the next and I decided to
go out and buy myself a whole heap of art supplies,
and Emily was with me and she said, well, I
want a book two. I want to do what you're doing. Well,
Lily came into our room the following day and she
saw the second picture that I had done, and the
next thing she said, Mum, do you think next time
you do that I can join you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Such a simple thing, but because I was willing to
get out of my comfort zone, It's not something Lily's
ever engaged in. And what I loved about it was
this has just open up this avenue for me to
spend time with the kids without taking much effort at all.
As they've seen me be open to trying new experiences
and to do something that kind of challenges me, they're
(05:42):
actually wanting to be a part of the process.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
There's a couple of things that we need to draw
out here from this really important I'll do better tomorrow.
First of all, play A lot of parents will say,
and we did a podcast just recently about it, a
lot of parents will say, I hate playing with the kids,
so boring. So play is supposed to be both enjoyable
and intrinsic. That is, it's something that you do for
the sake of doing it. And if you're involved in
activity that you're not doing for the sake of it,
(06:05):
then it's not intrinsic and it's probably not going to
feel playful. What I love about the activity that you're
describing is you want to draw, you want to do
art and craft simply for the sake of doing it. It
doesn't serve any purpose. It's not like we're going to
I mean, maybe we will, but it's unlikely that we're
going to frame all of your art and put it
all over our walls.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I have a book just so you're I know, but
you're freaking out.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
No, no, no, I have a book.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's all attached pages.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
We can.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, I'm amazed. I always knew that you were artie,
but I had no idea how artie. So I just
wanted to emphasize play is critical. The second thing is involvement.
When kids see us playing, even things that they don't
necessarily feel drawn to, they're drawn to us. They want
to be involved, and it becomes intrinsically orienting for them
as well. But the critical thing that I want to
ask you about after those two observations is what was
(06:51):
it that made you willing to do something that you
were afraid of failing? Like I remember you saying to me,
I don't think that I can do this drawing thing
because I'm no good at it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm terrible at drawing.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
What switched it for you?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It was actually ev She did just the most brilliant
thing to start things off. We sat there, We looked
at her because both Caroline and I were kind of
we're not creative in that space at all, didn't feel
like we knew what we were doing. We kind of
looked at her blankly and like, and she knew that
if she didn't do something. We were going to sit
(07:27):
there for an hour and a half. Starts they're a
piece of paper, and so she said, all right, this
is it. This is what we're going to do. She said,
we're each going to have one piece of paper. We're
going to pick a picture. So we picked a pansy.
Just she had a little how to book with nine
steps how to draw a pansy, and she said, we
are going to draw one step each and then we're
going to pass the page around. Literally by her telling
(07:47):
me that I had no control over how the outcome
was going to turn out because I could only do
I could only have control over the steps that I
was drawing. Something switched. It was literally like a light
bulb and I was like, I don't have any control
over this. Let's just draw, Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So let's bring this back to what is My new book,
Pairing Revolution is all about, comes out like in the
next month or so. It's about autonomy, competence, and relatedness.
So relatedness means we're doing things in an involved way,
connecting with others. That's what you're doing. That's why you
were there in the first place. I want to sit
down with these two great girls great ladies, and do
some art with them. So relatedness need tick involvement. Second
(08:26):
one is competence. You've frozen up over competence because your
competence needs are fragile, and by everyone's saying you cannot
control this outcome. We're not really testing your competence anymore.
We're just getting you to step one, and then someone
else to do step two, and someone else to do
step three. All of a sudden, that frees you up
to not worry about competence, which ironically and paradoxically facilitates
(08:49):
your development of competence because now you're unfrozen and you're
willing to try.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was unbelievable. Honestly, I would never have thought that
that would have worked, but it was instant.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The third psychological need that is satisfied is autonomy. You
were doing it because you wanted to do it. No
one was forcing you. You actually chose to be there
to build the relationship and ultimately have the competence building experience.
This is not a parenting story. I'll do better tomorrow
is about how to become a better parent. The wonderful
thing about it, though, is the principles applied to parenting
and because you've had this experience, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Opened me up to parenting experiences. Yeah, and that I
wouldn't have had without this.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So after dinner, once things are tidy now in the evening,
you consider at the dining table with the kids with
those art supplies that you went bored and you can
all draw and you can do the same thing with them,
which means they're not freaking out about the outcome and
how it looks. They're just building relationships, developing competence, and
choosing to be there because it feels good.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm actually really excited.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So my I'll do better tomorrow is also not parenting related,
and we don't talk about this ahead of time. I
know nothing about what you're going to talk about. You
know nothing about what I'm going to talk about. But
my I'd do better tomorrow is actually kind of a
really simple and fairly short one. I haven't shouted it
from the rooftops, but I also haven't made a secret
of it. The last couple of months have not been
great for me mentally and psychologically. I did mention it
(10:10):
on the older but it tomorrow podcast a couple of
weeks ago, where I said I feel like I want
to quit parenting. We talked last week about how I
went rock climbing and how scary that was for me,
But I pushed myself beyond my boundaries and we've got
the raising resilient kids somemit coming up. And I did
something hard, and doing hard things ironically makes you more resilient,
whereas if you don't get to do hard things, you
don't get to be more resilient because you're not doing
(10:32):
hard things and pushing through challenges. So that was really
great for me. But then you went away, and I
don't remember if I mentioned this last week or not,
but I started riding my bike again. This is the
second week in a row where I've pumped out about
two hundred k's, which is not a huge week, but
it's properly exercising again. It means that I'm getting up
at four am. It means that I'm riding really hard
(10:52):
several days a week for an hour and a half
to two hours, and the only time that I can
do it is from four am till six am. But
can I ask you a question about my well being,
about my mental health? Have you noticed a difference in
the last week. Have you noticed that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm just I don't think it's a bike ride. I
think that I came home.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You came home, and we're about to go away. I
know that there's probably a confluence of factors, but I
am loving, as insane as it sounds. I'm loving getting
up at four o'clock in the morning. I'm loving being
on the bike by four h five or four ten.
And I'm loving riding through the foothills of the Sunshine
Coast and busting myself, like absolutely riding my backside off
(11:34):
and coming home completely flogged at six am, ready to
get on with my day. And I feel like it's
making me happier, and it's making me engage better with
the kids. It's making me a better parent, better husband.
I feel like I feel like I'm a better person
when I'm smashing my body. Does it make sense?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It doesn't to me at all. But I have recognized
and seen it, especially over the last few months, as
I've seen you kind of peter and struggle that physical
activity is imperative to your sense of wellbeing. Yeah, and
it's exciting that you've got something that you love doing.
And we both now have complete acknowledgment we're both on
(12:13):
the same page that this is actually really important for
you to maintain.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, I think the take our message of our podcast
for both of us, unintentionally and unplanned, is parents need outlets.
We become better when we have outlets, especially when those
outlets challenge us and drive us to be more competent,
driver us to push beyond boundaries, drivers to do hard things,
makes us more resilient, makes us feel more self efficacious.
(12:38):
But it's good for our relationships and it's good for
our wellbeing. At least that's how it feels for me
thinking about your last week and that story, and think
about what has been like for me as I've started
to push my physical boundaries again.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm going to
catch a plane. Can we can we make this sure?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Let's go. We really appreciate you listen to the Happy
Families podcast. We hope that it's great. Let's get out
of here, Jr. Thanks for doing all this stuff, Craig.
We appreciate your executive production. I'm not going to do
the prop of Fairwell Happy Anniversary. I'm just gonna say
that to everyone else. It's ours.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Let's have an anniversary. We'll see you on Monday, with
a whole lot more on the Happy Families podcast. I'm
sorry
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You
It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
time poor parent who just wants answers.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now as they've seen me be open to trying new
experiences and to do something that kind of challenges me,
they're actually wanting to be a part of the process.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And now here's the stars of our show, my mom
and dad.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Right now, I can't get a song out of my
head Lenny Kravitz fly Away, Oh, get up.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I don't think I know that one. Oh, come on, No,
I'm thinking of John Denver's.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Leaving on a jet plane, leaven on a jet plane,
on a jet plane, Steve Miller band jet airliner.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And then I've got this crazy song. I don't even
know where it came from. It might not even be
a song. It just says, well, it's fine away.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I have no idea what that is, but I love
the way you've scrunched up your nose when you're saying it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, it's an invitation.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Just let's find why do you have.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Because yesterday you told me where you're taking me.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, so it's happening. This is our twenty fifth winning
anniversary weekend. We're heading away, We're leaving the kids literally well,
depending on when you listening to this, the podcast dropping
and in a few hours time we're out of here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're on a jet plane to Queenstown, like you sellen.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And where the temperature instead of the balmy, humid, muggy,
what like thirty plus degrees that it's been on the
Sunshine Coast, is going to be.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
About four degree.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I can't wait. It's going to be really exciting. Our
old thibeddit tomorrow. Today is not about our trip though,
our old thibed it tomorrow, as always, is about how
we can be better parents based on the experiences that
we've had with our parenting this past week. I wonder
if you want to go first today?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sure. So. One of the things that I have recognized
about myself for a very long time is I have
actually allowed fear to govern a lot of the choices
I makes. Yeah, a fear of failure, fear of just
making a mistake, fear of not getting it right, fear
of not understanding what it is I need to do
and therefore I'll just look silly, like, just so much
(02:24):
fear around that, and so over the years there's been
so many things that I want to try, but it's
literally stopped me from even contemplating whether or not it's possible,
because I just don't want to look silly.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So last week I was able to spend some time
at the health resort and just start to do some
deep diving into some of my own thought processes and
why I think the way I think and why I
do things the way I do. And as part of
that experience, I was actually able to try a couple
of craft experiences that I've wanted to do but have
been too scared to try before. One of them is
(02:59):
Potter I've actually done. I've played with clay a handful
of times, but again, just the experience hasn't been great.
There was just something different about this experience. The teacher
had everything prepped, so it was just it was a
really smooth process, and the group of girls that I
was with we just sat there and talked, so I
was kind of not really in my head. I was
(03:21):
just in the moment, you know, in the middle of
this conversation before I realized I'd completed this thing. And
then the other one was the same teacher, but he
got us weaving a basket out of palm fronds and
when I looked at it, I was like, this looks
really silly. But I woke up the next morning and
I was like, you know what, this is actually pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I made a basket. I made a basket which our
dogs subsequently tore apart.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Don't remind me plain Sorry, But that led to thinking
about all of these other creative outlets that I've wanted
to do but I haven't, and so ev Our wonderful.
What do you even call it these days? Do you
have a title?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, Evelyn is our. I don't know what the title is.
She titled herself, but she's important part of our team essential.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
She's a graphic designer. She's just jack of all trades.
This woman, she's amazing. And she was coming up to
spend a few days with you doing strategy and planning
for the next few months, and she said, I'm going
to bring up my art box and we're going to
sit down and we're going to do some art. And
so for a couple of nights while she was here,
I did something that I have never done before. And
(04:23):
not only did I love the process, what I really
loved was the fact that I was able to let
go and just enjoy doing very new experience for me,
especially in that creative space. Well, I came home and
the joy was having our nineteen year old, who is
very artistic, look at me and say, Mum, which one's
(04:45):
the OG? Do you know what OG stands for?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's the original?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, me, I had no idea what she was talking about. Okay,
so she was pretty impressed. And then obviously all of
the other kids came in and they had a look
and they saw what I had done, and they were
very excited to see.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I did another one the next and I decided to
go out and buy myself a whole heap of art supplies,
and Emily was with me and she said, well, I
want a book two. I want to do what you're doing. Well,
Lily came into our room the following day and she
saw the second picture that I had done, and the
next thing she said, Mum, do you think next time
you do that I can join you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Such a simple thing, but because I was willing to
get out of my comfort zone, It's not something Lily's
ever engaged in. And what I loved about it was
this has just open up this avenue for me to
spend time with the kids without taking much effort at all.
As they've seen me be open to trying new experiences
and to do something that kind of challenges me, they're
(05:42):
actually wanting to be a part of the process.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
There's a couple of things that we need to draw
out here from this really important I'll do better tomorrow.
First of all, play A lot of parents will say,
and we did a podcast just recently about it, a
lot of parents will say, I hate playing with the kids,
so boring. So play is supposed to be both enjoyable
and intrinsic. That is, it's something that you do for
the sake of doing it. And if you're involved in
activity that you're not doing for the sake of it,
(06:05):
then it's not intrinsic and it's probably not going to
feel playful. What I love about the activity that you're
describing is you want to draw, you want to do
art and craft simply for the sake of doing it. It
doesn't serve any purpose. It's not like we're going to
I mean, maybe we will, but it's unlikely that we're
going to frame all of your art and put it
all over our walls.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I have a book just so you're I know, but
you're freaking out.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
No, no, no, I have a book.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's all attached pages.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
We can.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, I'm amazed. I always knew that you were artie,
but I had no idea how artie. So I just
wanted to emphasize play is critical. The second thing is involvement.
When kids see us playing, even things that they don't
necessarily feel drawn to, they're drawn to us. They want
to be involved, and it becomes intrinsically orienting for them
as well. But the critical thing that I want to
ask you about after those two observations is what was
(06:51):
it that made you willing to do something that you
were afraid of failing? Like I remember you saying to me,
I don't think that I can do this drawing thing
because I'm no good at it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm terrible at drawing.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
What switched it for you?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It was actually ev She did just the most brilliant
thing to start things off. We sat there, We looked
at her because both Caroline and I were kind of
we're not creative in that space at all, didn't feel
like we knew what we were doing. We kind of
looked at her blankly and like, and she knew that
if she didn't do something. We were going to sit
(07:27):
there for an hour and a half. Starts they're a
piece of paper, and so she said, all right, this
is it. This is what we're going to do. She said,
we're each going to have one piece of paper. We're
going to pick a picture. So we picked a pansy.
Just she had a little how to book with nine
steps how to draw a pansy, and she said, we
are going to draw one step each and then we're
going to pass the page around. Literally by her telling
(07:47):
me that I had no control over how the outcome
was going to turn out because I could only do
I could only have control over the steps that I
was drawing. Something switched. It was literally like a light
bulb and I was like, I don't have any control
over this. Let's just draw, Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So let's bring this back to what is My new book,
Pairing Revolution is all about, comes out like in the
next month or so. It's about autonomy, competence, and relatedness.
So relatedness means we're doing things in an involved way,
connecting with others. That's what you're doing. That's why you
were there in the first place. I want to sit
down with these two great girls great ladies, and do
some art with them. So relatedness need tick involvement. Second
(08:26):
one is competence. You've frozen up over competence because your
competence needs are fragile, and by everyone's saying you cannot
control this outcome. We're not really testing your competence anymore.
We're just getting you to step one, and then someone
else to do step two, and someone else to do
step three. All of a sudden, that frees you up
to not worry about competence, which ironically and paradoxically facilitates
(08:49):
your development of competence because now you're unfrozen and you're
willing to try.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was unbelievable. Honestly, I would never have thought that
that would have worked, but it was instant.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The third psychological need that is satisfied is autonomy. You
were doing it because you wanted to do it. No
one was forcing you. You actually chose to be there
to build the relationship and ultimately have the competence building experience.
This is not a parenting story. I'll do better tomorrow
is about how to become a better parent. The wonderful
thing about it, though, is the principles applied to parenting
and because you've had this experience, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Opened me up to parenting experiences. Yeah, and that I
wouldn't have had without this.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So after dinner, once things are tidy now in the evening,
you consider at the dining table with the kids with
those art supplies that you went bored and you can
all draw and you can do the same thing with them,
which means they're not freaking out about the outcome and
how it looks. They're just building relationships, developing competence, and
choosing to be there because it feels good.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm actually really excited.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So my I'll do better tomorrow is also not parenting related,
and we don't talk about this ahead of time. I
know nothing about what you're going to talk about. You
know nothing about what I'm going to talk about. But
my I'd do better tomorrow is actually kind of a
really simple and fairly short one. I haven't shouted it
from the rooftops, but I also haven't made a secret
of it. The last couple of months have not been
great for me mentally and psychologically. I did mention it
(10:10):
on the older but it tomorrow podcast a couple of
weeks ago, where I said I feel like I want
to quit parenting. We talked last week about how I
went rock climbing and how scary that was for me,
But I pushed myself beyond my boundaries and we've got
the raising resilient kids somemit coming up. And I did
something hard, and doing hard things ironically makes you more resilient,
whereas if you don't get to do hard things, you
don't get to be more resilient because you're not doing
(10:32):
hard things and pushing through challenges. So that was really
great for me. But then you went away, and I
don't remember if I mentioned this last week or not,
but I started riding my bike again. This is the
second week in a row where I've pumped out about
two hundred k's, which is not a huge week, but
it's properly exercising again. It means that I'm getting up
at four am. It means that I'm riding really hard
(10:52):
several days a week for an hour and a half
to two hours, and the only time that I can
do it is from four am till six am. But
can I ask you a question about my well being,
about my mental health? Have you noticed a difference in
the last week. Have you noticed that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm just I don't think it's a bike ride. I
think that I came home.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You came home, and we're about to go away. I
know that there's probably a confluence of factors, but I
am loving, as insane as it sounds. I'm loving getting
up at four o'clock in the morning. I'm loving being
on the bike by four h five or four ten.
And I'm loving riding through the foothills of the Sunshine
Coast and busting myself, like absolutely riding my backside off
(11:34):
and coming home completely flogged at six am, ready to
get on with my day. And I feel like it's
making me happier, and it's making me engage better with
the kids. It's making me a better parent, better husband.
I feel like I feel like I'm a better person
when I'm smashing my body. Does it make sense?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It doesn't to me at all. But I have recognized
and seen it, especially over the last few months, as
I've seen you kind of peter and struggle that physical
activity is imperative to your sense of wellbeing. Yeah, and
it's exciting that you've got something that you love doing.
And we both now have complete acknowledgment we're both on
(12:13):
the same page that this is actually really important for
you to maintain.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, I think the take our message of our podcast
for both of us, unintentionally and unplanned, is parents need outlets.
We become better when we have outlets, especially when those
outlets challenge us and drive us to be more competent,
driver us to push beyond boundaries, drivers to do hard things,
makes us more resilient, makes us feel more self efficacious.
(12:38):
But it's good for our relationships and it's good for
our wellbeing. At least that's how it feels for me
thinking about your last week and that story, and think
about what has been like for me as I've started
to push my physical boundaries again.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm going to
catch a plane. Can we can we make this sure?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Let's go. We really appreciate you listen to the Happy
Families podcast. We hope that it's great. Let's get out
of here, Jr. Thanks for doing all this stuff, Craig.
We appreciate your executive production. I'm not going to do
the prop of Fairwell Happy Anniversary. I'm just gonna say
that to everyone else. It's ours.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Let's have an anniversary. We'll see you on Monday, with
a whole lot more on the Happy Families podcast. I'm
sorry
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You
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