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November 20, 2023 • 15 mins

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A supermarket worker told Joe Jonas that he "looks crazy in real life". 

Flexi & Froomindi discuss things people assumed about them through seeing their work online. 

Plus, Flex deep dives on Khy and asks the question: Who is paying for tinder? 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Flex and Frooms. Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
and Frooms catch up podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy Monday guys. Today we chat about why you can't
dive to the bottom of the ocean. Very very enthralling conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Let's go. You're listening to Flex and Frooms.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We well, when I say we, I like Joe Jonas.
I have been a big fan of Jojonas, probably for
the last year. I think I got involved with Jojonas
fandom probably when his brother came out with Jealous an Energy, Who's.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Up now puffing him Coming? We love that song.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Anyway, we saw that Joe Jonas and Soviet Turner broke
up recently, and so Joe Jonas is on the top
of our feed for Better or Worse Mickey producer Mickey
has found a grab discussing how Joe Jonas looks in person.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I just walked into a CDs and the security guy goes, oh, Joe,
and I said, hey, man, what's going on? And then
like go shake your hand and he goes, man, and
you look crazy in person?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't know. Is that a compliment? Babes?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
If you're asking if something is a compliment, respectfully, you
have been dragged. You have been dragged in CBS of
all places I used to get so I never forget.
I can't remember if I've said this on air, but
I remember a few years ago I went and did
a spin class, and midway through the spin class, the
chick's like, is this packed house?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Are you? Are you frooms? Are you frooms?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And I was like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's like I thought you would be way. You're way
taller in personal say something about like my height, and
I just remember being like, that's like neither here nor
there in terms of savagery. But I just remember be like,
oh my god, it's such a weird feeling to be
perceived as like crazy old, taller or fall or shorter.
You have to experience something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Girls, I feel like I am shorter in person, but
people don't usually mention it. I like to ask sorry,
i'm sound effects. I like to ask you to double check,
but it starts and stops there, because I don't people
talking about my appearance unless it's positive, and I'm talking
like objectively positive, not read between the lines. Was that
a compliment? Clear enough? Leave me out of it, Micky,

(02:18):
what about you? Doll at my old office.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
In lockdown, we used to play a game that was
commissioned by me where we would guess people's heights if
they started during lockdown. So obviously, like when people joined
the team and then they started in lockdown, you wouldn't
know how tall anyone was. And then I made like,
everyone like, guess how tall?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do we think?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And so I was like, do they give tall or
short energy?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Does anyone can.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Tell by people's necks next lengths? Yeah? Like short people
have short necks, they say, And once you start looking it,
it makes sense. See, I think I have a longer
than average neck. I thought you were taller in person,
you so as in you thought I was going to
be shorter. No, I thought you'd be taller. Oh really yeah,
tiny tot Oh No, I don't even know how tall

(03:04):
for me is, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Because I thought, I don't know. I just looked at
all your photos and I just assumed you'd be like
towering over me.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
No, babe, you on the face tune for you. A
couple of weeks ago, we were talking about the term
eco anxiety and how it's gendered. Eco anxiety is this
idea that women are disproportionately feeling responsible for saving the planet,
and that includes making small changes, like I mean, they're
not even small changes. But Frooms, for example, does this

(03:30):
really great thing where she takes a mug to a
cafe to reduce her single use plastic. She always drinks
out of a reus or bottle she shops secondhand. This
is something that I feel like a lot of my
women friends do. They're making a lot of small, small
changes because they feel personally responsible. And I read this
article that says, isn't it interesting how the discussion around

(03:50):
climate anxiety doesn't really feel like it's hitting the men
as deeply. And I don't know, maybe it is. But
we have a listener letter from a person called Charlotte
who says, I was listening to the pod the other
day where you're discussing how women in the home tend
to bear most of the responsibility or the fear to
do with small acts of climate action, and it got
me thinking about how this expands outside of the home.
Stereotypical male hobbies an interest golfing, fishing, car animal racing,

(04:13):
and so on or can have immense and negative environmental impacts,
and yet this doesn't seem to be a conversation with
male friendship circles. Comparatively, more and more women are being
climate conscious with their hobbies, learning how to sew, croche,
to make long lasting clothes, opshop, garden, cook with what's around.
It got me thinking as to where in the world
this difference may have arisen from. Would love to hear
your thoughts, love you all, what do you reckon for me?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Wah wah we were I feel like if we had
to go through like quote unquote again like women's hobbies,
if we're going to go full gender, and you can
find just as many that are like bad for the environment.
I think this is like a selective look at things,
and like how many people are actually crocheting? To be honest,
the only time I've taken up, I've just thrown out

(04:56):
what I've made, damn so but you know some of
us just i't have it like that, as you say, like,
I feel like there's plenty of things that is golfing
bad to the environment. I guess they're pulling down trees
to make it. But Sydney Siders will be excited to
learn that they Brassis.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Takes a lot of water to maintain oh the buggy
are surely that's all the balls going into the water.
I think it just keeps coming back to the fact
that if we want any kind of positive change, we
can't be relying on the many. It really is individual,
like the compounding impact of the individual, the individual, the individual,
because if you look around with anything that matters, there

(05:33):
will always be one person doing more than their neighbor.
And that is just the way. Unfortunately. I think it
just comes to how you can sleep at night. And
I feel as though like climate guilt is a really
interesting one and it's like a lot of guilt. It
lacks a lot of purpose, Like it makes you feel
special because you feel bad, but you don't really do
anything about it anyway. So it's like I feel like

(05:54):
it's all in the title. It needs to be less
climate anxiety and more climate action major.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I have been in a little bit of a Reddit
hole recently. I saw this meme which was like googling
something and then putting Reddit at the end to get
an actual answer, and that's not like fluff elet really.
I just wish everyone on the planet, if you haven't
already gotten around Reddit, which I'm sure you have, if
you're a listener. It's truly my favorite place on the Internet. Also,
I had such like an individuality pick me complex in

(06:21):
high school because I would go on Reddit and I
feel like I knew more.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Than anyone else.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Anyway, it obviously still hasn't Warner.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You probably did at the time. If you were on
Reddit in primary school you said no.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
High school?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
High school still all yeah, I don't know what on earth.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I wish you could go back in the archives and
see what you search for. Too real, I've made a
few Burner accounts I haven't been known, haven't been known anyway.
I came across this question about why I can't dive
to the mottom of the ocean like we always I've wondered,
like how can there be things that live on the
bottom of the ocean, but then humans can only get
to a certain point before like dying.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Do you know why that is? FLEXI the pressure that
you'll just implode?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
And how does that work? Like what about your body
is imploding? Like is it the pressure on all sides?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Is that the vibe well, like the density of the water, right,
Like the further you go because like let's say you
go a meter down let's say that's you're only a
meter down, it's only a meter of water pressure that's
on you. You go two hundred meters down, two hundred
meters of pressure on.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You from the top, from the top. Yeah, hmm, interesting,
Well I think you might be incorrect. But also for ages,
I just thought it was because you can't hold your
breath underwater.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh you thought that was it? Kind of huh?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
How else does the mermaid's happen? Anyway, I found an
answer that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Peauk everyone's interests.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I lay ready, Okay, So for example, let's use the
fish that live down the bottom meter. How there's like
those blob fish that's crazy. If you bring them deep
water fish to the surface, they will expand and die.
And that's the reason why the blobfish looks like a blob.
It's somewhat normal at pressure, but then you bring it
up and that's why it looks like it's melted. I'm

(08:06):
hearing the phrase pressure in there, and I did say pressure,
but this person thinks I think the major factor that
hasn't been discussed is the presence of compressible materials. So
humans have air in their bodies, primarily in their lungs,
but also in the sinus's joints and blood. As you
dive down this air gets compressed. This is actually an
interesting phenomena in free diving. When you start diving, you

(08:28):
actually are pretty buoyant and you have to kick downwards.
But once you get a few meters down, the water
pressure compresses your lungs enough that you begin to sink
on your own.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I hat okay. However, however, I wondered as.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, what happens when you go into space, because we
know as well don't people explode when they go into space?
Like in water you compress and then I think you explode,
like that's.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Explode and inplod. But I guess it's water versus some
kind of not air matter. I don't know. Well to
look at the other way.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
If you were ejected from a spaceship, you have the
chance to get to another ship, you would want to
breathe out otherwise your lungs explode. Why do the lungs
explode instead of the air just being forced out of
them through your nose and mouth. From an in atmosphere perspective,
experiencing a rapid depressurization, you'll only be damaged if you
try to forcefully hold your breath, so you want to

(09:22):
just open your nose and mouth and push it out.
So yeah, that's interesting in case.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Your nose huh, what do you mean open your nose like?
You know how Like?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Okay, if I was to jump out of a space ship,
I'd be like and grab my breath, which I would explode,
Whereas if I jumped out and exhaled as I jump out,
then you won't explode.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Okay, let's give it a go. I must say I'm
not part of Nassau Kale. Everyone. You're listening to Flex
and Rooms on Kita. In case you missed it, Kylie
Jenner has launched a new fashion brand called car. You
might be thinking, why is this interesting, because this is
off the back of a failed brand, Kylie Swim. She

(10:03):
launched a collection that looked great on her, but by
the time it arrived with everybody else, it was poorly made.
People said it was comparable to she and it was
see through. There was no kind of support, and it
was overpriced, and so she just kind of quietly shut
that one down and kept it pushing. Since then, She's
also been really quiet around Kylie Skin and Kylie Baby,
her other brand. Maybe it was just more of a

(10:25):
skim toy we were having. We just didn't notice. Also,
the Kylie makeup hasn't been popping, and so people are
kind of like, why in yeah, why are you pushing
this clothing thing? Why are you pushing products if it
clearly does not work anyway. So it's a twelve piece collection.
It's predominantly faux leather garments. People are saying it's vegan leather.
People are saying it's father. I was under the impression

(10:46):
that vegan leather was made with plant based materials like
pineapple leather, that type of thing, not just plastic leather.
But maybe it is vegan because it's plastic.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't know, plastic doesn't have feelings. She said that
the collection is inspired from her own wardrobe. The prices
are between eighty eight to three point sixty five. Look,
it's fine. It's a cute little thing, and it's in
collaboration with a really cool Street where brand called Namelia.
Here's the thing, though Kylie launched this. Kylie launched this brand,
and the very next day she was seen at the

(11:20):
Wall Street Journal magazine Innovator Awards winning a Brand Innovator
Award for kai Oho.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I know they say these things are pay to play,
but I didn't realize it'd be that blatant, like you
could just really just get up there and win awards
for stuff. But maybe and then I'm thinking this brand innovation.
If you look at the brand she collabed with Namelia,
it's definitely just their clothing. There's really no Kylie blueprint
on there at all, So really they won the award.
I would say. The real mastermind, though, is Emma Greed.

(11:52):
She is the woman that is. I'm pretty sure she's
either the business development manager or the general manager or
the co founder of so many of the Kardashian brands,
Good American with Chloe Kardashian, Skim's Skin, the Kim Kardashian
skincare brand. She is the real mastermind and totally understands
the way that you can leverage celebrity to sell products.

(12:13):
The celebrities themselves, give or take, they're not really eating.
But her em Agreed genius.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I just I'm so obsessed. So her name, last name
is Greed, but it's not spelt like Grred. Yeah, but
it's pronounced that way. It's like, I can't believe we're
in twenty twenty three. We're living in a universe. I'm
having realizations who.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Is paying for Tinder? First of all, who is using Tinder?
I'm on a good authority of my friends and acquaintances.
Who are I would say prolific datas they're back on Tinder.
We're very surprised by this information because from my understanding,
Tinder is not just the original hookup app, but the
quality and the caliber of people some would say was
not up to scratch. People really do prefer Hinge because

(12:54):
it feels like creatives and quote unquote cool people.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Who knows? Tinder has forever had a really terrible reputation.
So when they announced that they were launching a four
hundred and ninety nine dollars per month program per month USD, Sorry,
I said eighty before it's USD listen to this. According
to the Match Group's latest earning call, Tinder has learned
that younger generations prefer lower priced and shorter duration products,

(13:23):
so they've begun testing a low cost weekly subscription. As
far as Tinder select the apps, four hundred and ninety
nine dollar per month program goes, the membership count remains
at a very low level, though execs are optimistic about
the financial potential of the product, expecting tens of millions

(13:43):
of dollars in revenue next year from this membership. To
reach ten million dollars, one thousand, six hundred and seventy
users would have to subscribe for a year. Okay, yeah, wow,
that doesn't sound like a lot. When Tinder has like
a bajillion users, I guess they're onto something they might be.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I feel like, if you're a professional, you've gone through
every little role like a professional person, you know. Okay,
if you're a professor, a young professional, and you know
you've got a busy work schedule, this could be an appealing.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Thing to try. Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
You what?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Tinder Select four hundred and ninety nine bucks USD a
month gets you nah direct? Okay, it says on the website.
With Tinder Select, you get access to these unique perks
direct message up to two times a week. You can
send someone a message without having to match first. Oh
I hate that. Skip the line. People you like will

(14:38):
see your profile unblurred in the likes you section, even
if they don't have a gold or platinum Tinder subscription.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
No, because then everyone can tell I'm spending five round
of dolls.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, that's true. Okay, there's special status. Show off your
membership with an exclusive select badge. No, okay. VIP Experience
membership spots are limited to less than one percent of
users to ensure you receive the most exclusive experience and
early access. Be among the first to test new features

(15:08):
in advance. This is sickening. It's crazy. This is sickening.
You're paying to be like a test Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And also I don't want Okay, if I was this person,
I don't want to be seen shown first because you
need to let them sift through. When you first start sifting,
like first start swiping the first ten people, you think
it's just the first of many amazing matches. You get
to your fiftiear swipe, and really, I feel like you're
a little less picky. So do you know, I reckon

(15:38):
say that, You'll be say that like you'll be put between.
These are some free ideas you're just given away, babe.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
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