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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Flex and Rooms, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is the Flex and Rooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's Flexing Frooms. Happy Wednesday, guys, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to Flex and Rooms on KIT.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's our last week on air. We have quit consciously
but not quietly. You will be hearing that. It's been
a pleasure to be here with you all to celebrate
our last week. Micky has been putting together a ruff
of surprises for the girlies, and she's got one at
the moment. I mean, yesterday we got Krispy Kremes, which
is a high light two dozen. Yes, Okay, what is
it now, Mickey, You're gonna open the door.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay, Micky says to close her eyes to her eyes
are closed.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I think it's a massuse.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I think it's something stuffed. Maybe it's an award. Okay,
it's a portrait. Can I touch it? And maybe it's
the guys inside of us.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, it's a mirror. It's like a fun house mirror.
Or it's not a pickt Okay, it's on a front.
I knew it. Open your eyes.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh, it's a frame of Mmy's best art works.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Best of best Babe. The way these are not even
the best stop.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
These really aren't the best, but.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I think you just found these in a random folder.
But like.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So for me, has this great habit of illustrating as
she's doing a five star job at radio. Many cannot relate.
I surely cannot. And every show, without fail, she would
do at least three original pieces. And the thing about
Frimy being an illustrator is, I've seen a lot of
you people try and paint and sketch and draw, and
the thing that makes you feel like you're never gonna
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be great at it is tentative strokes. Tentative strokes. Frimy
gets pen to paper, sharpey of paper, and it's like
automatic writing. She's like in a trance state. I think
half the time you don't even know what you're drawing
until it's done, and then.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There's not even a reveal. These days, you just kind
of end.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Up with a thing and then you're like okay, and
then you leave, and then Mickey keeps them because they're amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Licinda Frume's price YAI Exflex Mummy explain like I'm five, please,
they are cool?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, that is your brain. Simple thoughts, one more time,
complex execution that was my.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Favorite flex mummy as illustrated by me.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Fantastic that looks like you it does.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Anyway, Thanks so much, Mickey. This is very, very thoughtful.
I would likely take this home and use the fame
for something else.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What's it called reuse, recycle? What's it called?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Am I? Am I the asshole? Do? We haven't? Am
I the asshole? Because the horrors are endless and we
must interrogate, I'll get strained into it. Boys, Hello, gremlins,
loyal follower and tricks to hear, requesting your feedback, this
is the deal. My housemate, Luisa not her real name,
meal preps her entire week of lunches and dinners. She
always waits till Sunday night to do all the cooking,
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so often she'll leave the containers to cool on the
counter overnight because it's too hot to put in the
fridge right away before she goes to bed. Two months ago,
I moved my two cats into the apartment. Now in
my household, I don't allow them on the counters, but
if there is food left open, they will try and
get into it, as they all want to do. I
explained that she should be aware that the cats might
try to eat her food or might knock it over
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if she leaves it out all night. But she brushed
me off, saying it was fine. I told her that
it was only amount of time before it happened. Well,
it finally happened. I woke Monday morning to the kitchen
in a mess because the cat's knocked over several containers
off the floor. I cleaned up and put the rest
of the food that still looked fine into the fridge. Overall,
out of the seven lunches and seven dinners, about half
was ruined. When Louisa got up, I explained what happened
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and apologized. She flipped out on me because she can't
afford to buy more food for the week it's giving
Cozi living crisis. She then demanded that I buy more
food because it was my animals to cause this, but
I also can't afford to buy more meals out of
my own budget. I told her I wouldn't be replacing
anything because she was being irresponsible with her own food
by leaving it out, and I had already warned her
that this might happen. She still furious. Me and some
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of my friends have said that I'm obligated to replace
her food since my cat's damage.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Oh, this is spicy, juicy and feeling the spasiest one ever.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Is she the asshole for refusing?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
This is tricky because I love a good I told
you so moment.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh, it feels good every time, And in this instance,
she was told.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And I guess part of the ignorance might be from
her not knowing and not knowing how cats are and
not living with them, because that is something I would say, like, oh,
don't put that there. Like I can imagine being on
the receiving end of someone saying, oh, don't do that,
like the cat will get me be like no, that's fine,
like I'm sure it'll be fine, and it's not fine,
and me being upset. But in this instance, I can't
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imagine what you think would happen putting fourteen meals out
on the countertop, like who, that's not safe anyway, and
just leaving it overnight.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You don't know about bacteria?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Is there rice involved, babe? Because that's where you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Get one hundred percent not to victim shame in this instance,
but I think it is a matter of principle. Yes,
your housemates should have known better, but realistically there's nothing
to do about it now the food is gone, you
don't have money to replace it, shouldn't have money to
replace it. So we need to do some non monetary
favors for each other.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Absolutely, I think if you can afford it. I know
you said that it's not in your budget, but if
you can budget from somewhere else, Yeah, a little such
a light fang of something light or replace them, but
say hey, in future, I'll do it this time because
you lost something, but like, the cats are catting, so
be prepared, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's also worth noting that the our listener who dmd
us said that the cats are a late addition to
the household. True, so this might be a bit of
a teething period where it's a yes, great fair. You've
given your housemates some notice that cats are going to
be there. They don't haven't never lived with your cats before,
so they're dealing with, you know, the repercussions of your actions,
So it is worthwhile being a bit more accommodating so
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it doesn't end up being your problem later on when
you don't have a houseman and your cats are ruining
all your relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You're listening to flex and rooms on Kaita.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't know if you remember, and it was that
twenty sixteen, right, it's peak internet, I would say so.
And if you were really about that life, You're on Tumblr,
you were, you were on lookbook dot you you were,
you were on Reddit, Uh huh, you were on beat No, MySpace,
you're no, You're on Facebook at this time.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Deep Facebook, But you were deep in it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You were making statuses, you were you were uploading, you
were taking digital cameras to parties, and you were uploading
photo albums of the parties afterwards.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Not twenty sixteen, that's twenty that's twenty ten. Look, that
was a bit earlier to twenty fourteen. It was you're right,
you're twenty ten to twenty thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What were doing twenty sixteen on the internet? Okay? We
I had just.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Started working pedestrians, so I'm all across this. Companies had
started making digital media teams.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But they were like BuzzFeed, BuzzFeed exactly, exactles, listicles, five
minute like snacks.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Okay, cool a perfect time.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We didn't make we didn't make statuses that we knew
that was like not cool.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yes, we had graduated from that. It was a really,
really great time. And now you might remember I think
that was the first kind of big shift towards like
is print gonna last forever? Do we just do digital media?
And you know, what do women want? And feminism is real?
And what does that look like? It was riveting at
the time teen Vogue, which would be the equivalent of
like Dolly girlfriend maybe Cosmo.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Cosmo might be a bit too old, but.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It got distinctively political, and I say political in the
sense that it started referencing what was happening in general politics,
started talking about race, gender, sexuality in ways that people
deemed to be too advanced or too explicit for the publication,
because the bulk of what they had posted up until
that time was justin bieber dyed his hair? What do
we think?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Bikini workout?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Bikini workout? What to wear to formal?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Is black?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Too serious?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But the editor at the time, Elaine Welteroth, recently did
an interview talking about what her approach was when she
decided that it was important for teen Vogue to start
advocating for young people and to get them across just
the world and world events, so they had a balanced
view and outlook on what was happening around them, and
also recognizing that they had all this power to influence
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and wanted to do the right thing with it. So
Elaine Welteroth became the youngest person to helm teen Vogue
at the time and took a really prominent role in
advocating for youth involvement in political and social issues. And
she said that the reason why she did it was
because she recognized that the social media landscape was changing
and didn't know how, and recognized that the voices that
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needed to be amplified get left behind because they were
already being ostracized and isolated from information that was meant
for them. So think a lot of elections happening at
the time, people being like I don't want to vote,
doesn't really matter, or not really understanding the kind of
overlap between news and personal life and things like that,
where she was like, wait, I feel like we should know.
And also she discussed that the way that she was
(09:06):
using social media was like to network and to gain
leadership skills and to understand the world around her, and
that didn't reflect the way that she was encouraging her
audiences to like interact with the world around them, And
so she wanted to bridge that gap in a really
practical way and so do for her audience what other
audiences had been doing for her. And she recognized that
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she even wasn't the target market for what she was consuming,
So how would she rewrite this for herself? Which is
amazing And at the time, like they were talking about
climate change, which hadn't been done before. They were talking
about sex positivity, which was like different from the sex
narrative that had been fed to young people at the time.
She was talking about intersectionality social issues, and by the
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end of it, she just said that you know, you
guys think were just a fashion and beauty magazine, but
fashionist political beauty is political artist political do it?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
She wanted with that anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
The editor right now is someone Sharma, I don't have
their first name, but she's the first South Asian editor
in chief.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So things are really happening in teen Vogue.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Things are truly happening. Look, I wish there was an
Australian equivalent because their content is really American.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I would say Refinery twenty nine session journal.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, they're a bit older, okay, Team Vogue is really
meant four teenagers, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And look, we could read it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I sometimes I get around, but I'm in there.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I mean, this article is from teen vague, but we
don't really have an equivalent.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You know what was the equivalent that was American? But
like old American. Talk to me Frankie.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Frankie is Australian.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
There was one that was like Frankie. What was it called?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Give me more Rookie?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, girl, for sure, Mickey, what time is the babe?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's time to travel in our time machine back to
I think July. Oh, I think this is July seventeenth,
Actually Monday, July seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Okay, I'm amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Could be prophetic for something.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Ah yeah, let's have a little moment back in time
and reflect on the flex and frame show stunning.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
When I go on dates, I asked the Jody question,
is your family racist?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's a bit of fun, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
It's a bit of fun because you gotta know what
I expecting a yes, Like the answer is yes every
time you can't answer no.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But I'm just seeing how you handle it. God forbid.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I go to Christmas dinner, I'm talking to Uncle Ray's like,
talk to me about this hair.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I can't do that. Is that like a cultural thing
where you're from?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
How many a girl want? Just from Nigeria. I'm from Gharda. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I just love the culture. Great bodies. I will say
that was that was compiled from plenty of real events
that have happened in my life. I don't just talk
for no reason, and I do stand by that. But
what I'm now, I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's not subtlety, but I'm trying a new breed of shadiness.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Where I just let people show me who they are
and it's still has ribboning because you end up at
the same spot, but.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You add a bit of flavor in the journey.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
They don't know what's happening, but I'm clocking. I'm clocking.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Look, there are a few other key questions we should
get out quickly, and I think it has to start
with all the things we don't want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, one thing that's come up a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I was talking to a friend about it and she
was describing the type of person she keeps dating, where,
for lack of a better word, she feels like they
want to be looked after by her, like they want
to be mummed mothered by her. She's like it keeps happening,
Like I feel like I'm interacting with these people and
before you know it, I'm their confidante, their nurturer, their cook,
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their chef. And she enjoys it, but she also feels
like it's an expectation. And I was like, you've got
to ask them about gender roles. She's like what, I'm
just like, just ask them, like what do you think
by being a house husband? Just ask it like that
and see what happens. Lo and behold and like you
found yourself. You know, the progressives that were gone too
far in the direction.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Wait as in like because they want to be house
husbands in the.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Same where it's like this idea of like, I'm so
feminist that I don't want to work because you want
to work right, and what you fought for is what
the suffrage just wanted. So I'll go so far as
to opt out of traditional work to raise our imaginary
kids that won't happen and in preparation for them, if
you can just let me know what you'll be doing
to them, to me, all those nurturing, the bedtime stories,
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just do that to me, so I'll know you be
a fit parent by the time the kids come. Ask
the questions. Just find a fun way to ask them, though,
so you get an answers you want.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You better ask the questions from a place, not a
black yes, because that's scary if you decided you've in love.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
With this person, yes to ask it when the steaks
are so low.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And also you've got to be prepared to live or
die by that because let's say you ask someone it
and you don't get the answer you want. Now, when
they behave in the way that's in line with their views,
you can't get mad at them, and you're really told
you be careful.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Guys, that's the moment of the story is when we
are mining people for data and information, let's use that
against them.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Let's not just assume that they're wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
When they tell us who they are, you will be
implicated against your will.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
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