The Dangers Of AI Deep Fakes..

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
All right, let's put that away.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Let's get serious here, because the New Zealand member of
Parliament has walked in over there and held up a naked,
deep fake photo of herself. She's printed it out on
like a three paper. It is what's the name, Laura McClure.
She would be looking at her I don't know, when
her forties, an attractive blonde woman, and has walked in
and said, this is how easy it is. I've just

(00:40):
jumped online and put this picture of myself into one
of the ais and said turn it into a nude photo.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And she's held it up in parliament here I am.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
But she's doing it for a reason, which is very confronting,
she said. Even though she knows it's not her actual body,
it's a deep fake. It was still embarrassing holding a
nude photo of yourself up in parliament.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Absolutely, and this is becoming more and more prevalent everywhere,
so much so that the South Australian government just in
the last couple of days, I think at the start
of June, some New legislation came in, which is they've
updated some legislation to ensure that humiliating or in decent
content which is completely AI generated, is now covered in
the same way that sharing a normal, which.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I had this conversation with my kids last night, probably
not my ten year old, it was my thirteen year old,
because this is something that's happening in schools kids, because
it's so easy to create a deep fake. You can
just like take a photo of you Max, put it
in a little generator, and all of a sudden, you've
got a deep fake neud of somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah. I don't think PA will understand how easy it
is to do.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, and also how damaging it is for children. So
this is boys and girls. I was trying to explain
to my son how I love that this is going
to be illegal. I love that you're going to be
You're breaking the law if you do something like this,
if you send a deep fake to somebody else of
somebody else, a naked one, you will be in trouble.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
It has become one of the new modern day forms
of bullying. A lot of kids are able to jump
on these AI chat gps do it. I don't know
that chat shep two will go full nude for you.
But there are lots of platforms like it, and you
can just say here's a picture of this person. You
upload a photo and you say show them without any
clothes on, show them, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
And just imagine as a child, like a teenager, especially
in those little formative years, probably between about thirteen and seventeen,
how damaging that would be and the ramifications of that.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
In the article that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I won't go into details here just in case kids
are listening, but like, there is a story of a
thirteen year old girl who tried to hurt herself because
someone shared a deep fake of her in a naked
deep fake, because that's what happens, because it's embarrassing, it's humiliating.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I tried to.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I think, as parents, we need to teach our kids
to question what you see online. And I hate that
we have to do that. Now do you find that
even on Instagram you're like, oh that's cool?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Is that real? You almost have to go the other way.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You as parents are teaching kids, and me as a kid,
I need to teach my parents to question everything on
because they're saying things, and they're going, wait, is this
a real thing? No, that one's not a real thing.
That's not actually a giant shark eating a boat.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's so because they're not used to that, our parents are.
This is so foreign to them.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It affects everyone.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, and then there's the opposite, like when David Spears
said something was a deep fake.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, that one was real. You can't use that.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I want to show you just how easy it is
to make deep fake images. I have uploaded a photo
of you and a photo of me. We're not going
down the nude path. We're going down.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
The god unless you gave me a really good body
realized you were pissed.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, what I have done is you know that I
love my Lord of the Rings, and I know that
you don't. So I have put photos of you and yeah,
I have deep fake Lord of the Rings. No, you're
an elf and you're still wearing the same outfit. You're
wearing tabit. You've got a nice little elven capon, you've
got the pointy ears. What do you reckon about that?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Ah? Why am I like Italian and sixty plus?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That one looks Excuse me? You look great? Oh you're
gonna love mine. That's so weird.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I put in pretty much the same prompt and it
turned me into a female.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Female elf. But have a go at me.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Oh you are reusion.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Doesn't it look exactly like me?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
This is it looks nothing like you.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
That looks nothing like you.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
But this is what's so funny with AI generated images.
So you have the same face as my son, right,
a very pretty face. My little guy, he's ten years old.
Every time he put something in Snapchat, he'll put his
face on. But it turns him into a woman. It
thinks that he is a woman because you have beautiful eyelashes.
So are you saying that it doesn't all like you?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It does. I don't see that. It absolutely does. Instagram
h yeah it does.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Anyway deep fakes can put Why would you just, even
if you didn't think that, you should just say, yes,
that looks exactly like you for the purpose of the radio.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That I'm honest and I'm authentic.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm like an authentic Chinese cuisine derailed this entire chat