March 17, 2025 • 10 mins
Ever wished you could bring in a team of experts to weigh in on your ideas instantly—without scheduling meetings or waiting for replies? If you're using ChatGPT+, you can!
In this episode, Inventium’s resident AI expert, Neo Aplin, joins Dr. Amantha Imber to reveal a simple but game-changing trick: creating a custom AI advisory board using ChatGPT’s custom GPTs and the "@" trick.
You'll learn:
- How to set up custom GPT personas for different expertise areas (e.g., analytics, legal, problem-solving)
- The "@" trick that allows you to summon these experts in real-time within a single chat thread
- How this method eliminates the need for constant copying and pasting between threads
- Why this is a game changer for problem-solving, decision-making, and brainstorming
- A workaround for those who don’t have paid access to ChatGPT+
Plus, Neo shares real-world examples of using AI experts to refine strategies, analyse data, and get industry-specific insights—without the hassle of external research or consulting fees.
Want to level up your AI skills? Check out Inventium’s Gen AI Productivity System, a self-paced course designed to help you work smarter with AI and reclaim hours every week. Get started at inventium.com.au/GenAI
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you ever wished you could instantly bring in a
team of experts to weigh in on your ideas without
scheduling endless meetings or waiting for replies. Well, if you're
using chat GPT plus, that's the paid version you can.
There's a simple but powerful trick that allows you to
create your own executive advisory board using custom AI personas.
(00:25):
Imagine being able to tap into an analytics whiz, a
legal expert, or a creative director instantly within the same
conversation thread. In today's episode, I am joined by Inventium's
resident AI guru, Neo Applin to break down exactly how
you can set this up, why it's a game changer,
(00:46):
and how to make Jenai collaboration as seamless as a
real time brainstorming session. So if you're ready to level
up how you use Jenai for decision making, this is
an episode you won't want to miss. Just quickly before
we get into today's episode, if you want to go
defilt and learn how to work with AI instead of
(01:07):
worrying about being replaced by it, I have something that
I think you will love. But my consultancy you invent him.
We've created the JNAI productivity system. It's a self paced
online course designed to help you boost productivity and say
literally hours every week by using Jenai a whole lot smarter.
It just a few hours. You'll go from Jenai dabbler
(01:30):
to Jeni expert with practical tools you can start using immediately.
Head to inventim dot com, dot au forward slash Jenai
to check it out and get started today. Welcome to
How I Work, a show about habits, rituals, and strategies
(01:51):
for optimizing your day. I'm your host, doctor Amantha imber So.
People often think of Jenai as a single assistant, but
you're suggesting that we do something a little bit more dynamic.
Can you explain the concept of a Genai advisory board.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
A lot of people may not know that. You can say, hey,
chat GPT or Claude, I want you to be or
pretend you are this person and it's an awesome empathy engine.
So you could say, pretend you're Einstein, let's have a conversation.
You could say, pretend you're the Prime Minister, pretend you're
Donald Trump maybe, and it can then pretend that it
(02:30):
is that person and give ideas, concepts and knowledge like
it was that person. So you can take that to
the next step, particularly with chat GPT, because you've got
the GPTs that you can build. So as a reminder,
the GPTs are where you can have your own prompts
within a particular GPT that every time you come back
to that GPT, it'll then remember those prompts. So to
(02:54):
put it in a bit of context, you can have
different GPTs for different needs. So I've got for an
analytical GPT, I've got one for a humanistic empathy kind
of GPT. I've also got another one for a problem
solving GPT, and the last one I've got is a
it's like a Devil's advocate GPT who kind of coaches
(03:16):
me with things. I can then use each of these
in different scenarios.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, so we're not going to get into how to
build a GPT in this episode, but I think we
might have some resources, so we'll link to that in
the show notes. But I want to know specifically, how
does and I've heard you call this the AT tricks
in the little symbol AT that you'd find in an
email address, for example, So how does the AT trick
(03:42):
in GPT and chat GPT plus because I think, correct
me if I'm wrong. This only works in the paid version.
How does this change the way that we can interact
with AI?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The old fashioned way of doing this is you'd have
a conversation and then you would then paste all of
that into another thread with another with with a particular prompt.
And so you're cutting and pasting for different threads, and
each thread has a different personality or perspective in it.
So I'll cut and paste into a thread which is
all about analytical stuff, and then I'll cut and paste
(04:12):
it into a problem solving stuff and that's a bit annoying. Now,
with the GPTs, once you've a created them and b
the important thing is talked to them, Then when you've
got a new thread going, you can hit the AT
symbol at the start of what your prompt would be,
and then it pops up with effectily a pop up
saying which of your GPTs that you recently used do
(04:34):
you want to bring into this chat? So, rather than
you bring in the content to the GPT, in this case,
you're bringing the GPT to your chat, and so you
can then bring each GPT in as you need to.
So it's almost like saying, hey, analytical person, come and
join the chat and what do you think about this?
And then hey, problem solving person, come and join a
(04:55):
chat for this. Or you might have an industry knowledge person,
or you might have a mass expert person. Whatever your
needs are, you bring them to your chat with the
at symbol.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I love this so much because I was one of
those people that was just hopping into new threads essentially
when I needed to do this. But now that I
know when you taught me this shortcut, I just love this.
Now I know you recommend assembling a dream team of
custom GPTs, can you tell me about some of the
key personas that should be included.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
This is entirely up to you and your needs. So
I like problem solving, I like analytical things. I like
having a different customer perspective on things. These are the
kind of things that I work with. But just say
you're in sales, you may want to have certain personas
or GPTs for types of clients or industries that you're
working with. Potentially, if you're in HR, you might have
(05:49):
an industry regulation GPT, you might have illegal GBT. So
who do you wish that you had sitting right beside
you to ask question of any time of the day,
they're u GPTs.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now, when you were describing this, I heard you say
like these need to be recently used GPTs. Can you
tell me about the purpose of what I've heard you
call the first hello rule and why this is a
crucial step in this process.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The interface in chat GPT is less than awesome for this.
And in order to use the AT to then get
a pop up and then say hey John, my Chad,
you must have talked to these GPTs recently. And so
if you've just created a GPT and you hit the
AD button, it will not pop up in the pop up.
So you've got to at least say hello to the
(06:41):
GPT or whatever. It doesn't matter what you say to
the GPT, but you must have used it recently in
order for it to pop up in the AT pop up.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, So can you walk me through a real world
example of using multiple gen AI experts in adverted commas
in a single conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. So, if you're writing a complicated document for a
particular client, say maybe it's analysis piece. Maybe it's a
like a pros and cons kind of piece, bringing in
say an analytical expert is always a handy thing. So
which bits of I missed? How can I improve this?
(07:23):
Also a problem solving maybe you get stuck halfway through
you're building that you can bring a problem solving GPT
in there. But I also like using it for an
audience GPT. So imagine if doing something for a COO
or an operations lead. So then I can say, hey,
I've got a GPT for an operations lead. What would
(07:44):
you think about this? What would you want to see
in this document? So it's almost like you've got an
expert within that role coming in to validate what you're doing,
making sure that it's kind of right.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So what types of decisions or tasks benefit most from
using I think what we jointly refer to as an
AI advisory board.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm a big fan of using it for problem solving,
getting things right. It's less applicable to writing and creative
type endeavors. So if you're doing a LinkedIn post, probably no,
that's not the thing you would want to bring in
lots of GPTs for, unless maybe an audience GPT might
be one you'd want to add into your conversation. But
(08:28):
deep analytical things problem solving. I'm kind of structuring this.
Those kind of problems brilliant to bring in different different GPTs.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Now, I assume that a lot of listeners will not
have access or will not have paid access to chat
GPT pro I think it costs what about twenty five
or thirty dollars AUD a month if they don't have
access to the paid version? Is there a workaround here?
How can they use this strategy?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, you can still do it. What you doing is
instead of bringing the GPT to you, what you may
want to do is start different threads with different personas.
So when each of the chats, you know how you
can rename a chat. So I create a new chat
and say you are a problem solving person and give
all the dimensions you want, or you might say you're
(09:19):
an industry person, maybe you know a lot about mining
or whatever those things are you want for each of
those different experts. Rename the thread for the experts, so
call it the mining expert thread something like that, and
then you'll cut and paste your content into those expert
threads and then say, hey, what are your thoughts about
this particular thing, And the content might be the previous
(09:42):
chats you've had, or it might be this are the
structure of the things that I'm doing so effectively, you're
bringing your content to each of the experts in this case,
and you're still getting that great expertise. It's just an
extra step.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I love that workaround. I did not know about that
because I have access to the paid version of chat
GPT NEO. Thank you for coming back on and sharing
another very very helpful Jenai tip. If you're keen to
learn even more Genii tricks and hacks, check out Inventium's
Gnai Productivity System. It's a self paced course to transform
(10:18):
you from a Jenai dabbler to Jeni pro in just
a few hours. Head to inventium dot com dot au
forward slash Jenai to check it out and get started today.
If you like today's show, make sure you hit follow
on your podcast app to be alerted when new episodes drop.
How I Work was recorded on the traditional land of
(10:39):
the Warrangery People, part of the Cooler Nation. A big
thank you to Martin Nimmer for doing the sound mix.
Have you ever wished you could instantly bring in a
team of experts to weigh in on your ideas without
scheduling endless meetings or waiting for replies. Well, if you're
using chat GPT plus, that's the paid version you can.
There's a simple but powerful trick that allows you to
create your own executive advisory board using custom AI personas.
(00:25):
Imagine being able to tap into an analytics whiz, a
legal expert, or a creative director instantly within the same
conversation thread. In today's episode, I am joined by Inventium's
resident AI guru, Neo Applin to break down exactly how
you can set this up, why it's a game changer,
(00:46):
and how to make Jenai collaboration as seamless as a
real time brainstorming session. So if you're ready to level
up how you use Jenai for decision making, this is
an episode you won't want to miss. Just quickly before
we get into today's episode, if you want to go
defilt and learn how to work with AI instead of
(01:07):
worrying about being replaced by it, I have something that
I think you will love. But my consultancy you invent him.
We've created the JNAI productivity system. It's a self paced
online course designed to help you boost productivity and say
literally hours every week by using Jenai a whole lot smarter.
It just a few hours. You'll go from Jenai dabbler
(01:30):
to Jeni expert with practical tools you can start using immediately.
Head to inventim dot com, dot au forward slash Jenai
to check it out and get started today. Welcome to
How I Work, a show about habits, rituals, and strategies
(01:51):
for optimizing your day. I'm your host, doctor Amantha imber So.
People often think of Jenai as a single assistant, but
you're suggesting that we do something a little bit more dynamic.
Can you explain the concept of a Genai advisory board.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
A lot of people may not know that. You can say, hey,
chat GPT or Claude, I want you to be or
pretend you are this person and it's an awesome empathy engine.
So you could say, pretend you're Einstein, let's have a conversation.
You could say, pretend you're the Prime Minister, pretend you're
Donald Trump maybe, and it can then pretend that it
(02:30):
is that person and give ideas, concepts and knowledge like
it was that person. So you can take that to
the next step, particularly with chat GPT, because you've got
the GPTs that you can build. So as a reminder,
the GPTs are where you can have your own prompts
within a particular GPT that every time you come back
to that GPT, it'll then remember those prompts. So to
(02:54):
put it in a bit of context, you can have
different GPTs for different needs. So I've got for an
analytical GPT, I've got one for a humanistic empathy kind
of GPT. I've also got another one for a problem
solving GPT, and the last one I've got is a
it's like a Devil's advocate GPT who kind of coaches
(03:16):
me with things. I can then use each of these
in different scenarios.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, so we're not going to get into how to
build a GPT in this episode, but I think we
might have some resources, so we'll link to that in
the show notes. But I want to know specifically, how
does and I've heard you call this the AT tricks
in the little symbol AT that you'd find in an
email address, for example, So how does the AT trick
(03:42):
in GPT and chat GPT plus because I think, correct
me if I'm wrong. This only works in the paid version.
How does this change the way that we can interact
with AI?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The old fashioned way of doing this is you'd have
a conversation and then you would then paste all of
that into another thread with another with with a particular prompt.
And so you're cutting and pasting for different threads, and
each thread has a different personality or perspective in it.
So I'll cut and paste into a thread which is
all about analytical stuff, and then I'll cut and paste
(04:12):
it into a problem solving stuff and that's a bit annoying. Now,
with the GPTs, once you've a created them and b
the important thing is talked to them, Then when you've
got a new thread going, you can hit the AT
symbol at the start of what your prompt would be,
and then it pops up with effectily a pop up
saying which of your GPTs that you recently used do
(04:34):
you want to bring into this chat? So, rather than
you bring in the content to the GPT, in this case,
you're bringing the GPT to your chat, and so you
can then bring each GPT in as you need to.
So it's almost like saying, hey, analytical person, come and
join the chat and what do you think about this?
And then hey, problem solving person, come and join a
(04:55):
chat for this. Or you might have an industry knowledge person,
or you might have a mass expert person. Whatever your
needs are, you bring them to your chat with the
at symbol.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I love this so much because I was one of
those people that was just hopping into new threads essentially
when I needed to do this. But now that I
know when you taught me this shortcut, I just love this.
Now I know you recommend assembling a dream team of
custom GPTs, can you tell me about some of the
key personas that should be included.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
This is entirely up to you and your needs. So
I like problem solving, I like analytical things. I like
having a different customer perspective on things. These are the
kind of things that I work with. But just say
you're in sales, you may want to have certain personas
or GPTs for types of clients or industries that you're
working with. Potentially, if you're in HR, you might have
(05:49):
an industry regulation GPT, you might have illegal GBT. So
who do you wish that you had sitting right beside
you to ask question of any time of the day,
they're u GPTs.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now, when you were describing this, I heard you say
like these need to be recently used GPTs. Can you
tell me about the purpose of what I've heard you
call the first hello rule and why this is a
crucial step in this process.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The interface in chat GPT is less than awesome for this.
And in order to use the AT to then get
a pop up and then say hey John, my Chad,
you must have talked to these GPTs recently. And so
if you've just created a GPT and you hit the
AD button, it will not pop up in the pop up.
So you've got to at least say hello to the
(06:41):
GPT or whatever. It doesn't matter what you say to
the GPT, but you must have used it recently in
order for it to pop up in the AT pop up.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, So can you walk me through a real world
example of using multiple gen AI experts in adverted commas
in a single conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah. So, if you're writing a complicated document for a
particular client, say maybe it's analysis piece. Maybe it's a
like a pros and cons kind of piece, bringing in
say an analytical expert is always a handy thing. So
which bits of I missed? How can I improve this?
(07:23):
Also a problem solving maybe you get stuck halfway through
you're building that you can bring a problem solving GPT
in there. But I also like using it for an
audience GPT. So imagine if doing something for a COO
or an operations lead. So then I can say, hey,
I've got a GPT for an operations lead. What would
(07:44):
you think about this? What would you want to see
in this document? So it's almost like you've got an
expert within that role coming in to validate what you're doing,
making sure that it's kind of right.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So what types of decisions or tasks benefit most from
using I think what we jointly refer to as an
AI advisory board.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm a big fan of using it for problem solving,
getting things right. It's less applicable to writing and creative
type endeavors. So if you're doing a LinkedIn post, probably no,
that's not the thing you would want to bring in
lots of GPTs for, unless maybe an audience GPT might
be one you'd want to add into your conversation. But
(08:28):
deep analytical things problem solving. I'm kind of structuring this.
Those kind of problems brilliant to bring in different different GPTs.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Now, I assume that a lot of listeners will not
have access or will not have paid access to chat
GPT pro I think it costs what about twenty five
or thirty dollars AUD a month if they don't have
access to the paid version? Is there a workaround here?
How can they use this strategy?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, you can still do it. What you doing is
instead of bringing the GPT to you, what you may
want to do is start different threads with different personas.
So when each of the chats, you know how you
can rename a chat. So I create a new chat
and say you are a problem solving person and give
all the dimensions you want, or you might say you're
(09:19):
an industry person, maybe you know a lot about mining
or whatever those things are you want for each of
those different experts. Rename the thread for the experts, so
call it the mining expert thread something like that, and
then you'll cut and paste your content into those expert
threads and then say, hey, what are your thoughts about
this particular thing, And the content might be the previous
(09:42):
chats you've had, or it might be this are the
structure of the things that I'm doing so effectively, you're
bringing your content to each of the experts in this case,
and you're still getting that great expertise. It's just an
extra step.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I love that workaround. I did not know about that
because I have access to the paid version of chat
GPT NEO. Thank you for coming back on and sharing
another very very helpful Jenai tip. If you're keen to
learn even more Genii tricks and hacks, check out Inventium's
Gnai Productivity System. It's a self paced course to transform
(10:18):
you from a Jenai dabbler to Jeni pro in just
a few hours. Head to inventium dot com dot au
forward slash Jenai to check it out and get started today.
If you like today's show, make sure you hit follow
on your podcast app to be alerted when new episodes drop.
How I Work was recorded on the traditional land of
(10:39):
the Warrangery People, part of the Cooler Nation. A big
thank you to Martin Nimmer for doing the sound mix.
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