May 23, 2024 • 12 mins
This week on iHeart Tassie, a critical lack of feed for livestock on Tasmania's farms due to ongoing dry conditions.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I Heart Duzzy.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to our latest episode. I'm John Fabris. Well, it
might have turned a bit chilly in the mornings, but
Tasmania feels like it's had one of the sunniest stretches
of autumn weather I can remember for a long while.
Even Agfest had three days of clear skies, almost unheard of. Well,
those in our towns and cities might have been enjoying it.
Many primary producers without access to irrigation are going through
(00:27):
hell struggling to feed. Livestock Prices for hayes soaring, that's
if you can get it. Reports of mental health plummeting
for Tasmanian farmers, bringing some to the brink of even
dare we say it's suicide. Add to that a plague
of livestock theft. All of this coming up. I heart Duzzy.
Our guest Brad Graditch, who has farms in Forcet Brim Creek,
(00:51):
Paulina and the Central Highlands. Is this the worst dry
spell and livestock feed shortage you've seen, certainly for many years.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Certainly is because we, like the time, have sort of
three years worth of fodder in front of us. That's
hail and silage. We obviously didn't cut any hay last
year because of the season. We just didn't get a
spring and we've sort of been feeding out since early January.
We haven't got a lot of fighter left. There's an
eleven hundred head of cattle and fifteen hundred sheep, so
the cattle are the ones that you really need that
(01:21):
bulk feed. Certainly been a tough.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Time and the dry. I mean, the last time we
had something like this in my recollection was when Tassi's
power went down the bats Link cable back in twenty sixteen.
That was particularly dry. Do you think it's as bad
as that.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It was a very tough time in twenty sixteen. However,
at the moment we've got Flinders, King Island, the Northwest Coast,
the whole Tasmania. We need a good autumn break, which
is nearly too late anyway, but it's certainly worse than
it was in twenty sixteen because at the moment, if
we want to sell stock to other farmers, they've got
to go over to the mainland where there is a
(01:57):
little bit of feed. But then you've got shipping issues.
You know, you're sort of four weeks to get them
on a boat. You've got to sort of be able
to hold them for another extra four weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And what a prices then of feed obviously astronomical at
the moment, and that's if you can get it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I don't even know. I have two or three people
a day texting me or wringing me. Do I know
where there's any hay? I would not know. There's just
I don't know what's going to happen when it gets cold,
because there's a lot of people just sort of relying
on this warmer weather at the moment, but it's not
going to stay like that. It's when it gets cold, Hey,
it's going to get in silent joys, there's anything about
that people might let go. It's going to be very expensive.
(02:31):
I've already heard of quotes of you know, one hundred
and eighty dollars for round bails or hey, lousen is
about two hundred and fifty a bail and silence. You know,
it's going to be around that two hundred dollars mark.
But it'll only be exceptional circumstances which people will sell
their hay. If father decided to sell some stock for
a lower price.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
This is where our conversation can become very sensitive.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
My understanding is you know of people on the land
who are really in a bad way mentally, some even suicidal.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah. Look, unfortunately I do know some people that have
taken their own lives in recent times because of everything
that the farmer has to deal with. It's the so
many aspects of it that you've got to deal with
which are out of your control. Selling livestock at a
lesser price is one thing. Not even been able to
sell them because if they get too lighting condition. No
of a neighbor that actually sold twenty cows for dolt
(03:27):
food because they're too poor to go anywhere else pretty
much twenty or fifty dollars each. He didn't want to
see them starve through the winter, so that was the
choice he made, which has huge mental financial impact.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
My understanding is that our slaughter house capacity here is
pretty bad at the minute. They've got a long waiting
list as it is for livestock.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is that correct, Yeah, that is correct. Well, there's a
lot of cattle coming off Flinders in King Island, so
they've sort of been taking up kill space mainly cattle
to get can'tle into an advatise at the moment, you're
looking at about four months, so you've got to keep
them in the good body condition so that they're killable,
otherwise they won't accept them.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What sort of prices are you getting and how did
they compare to where we might have been a year
to three years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Good stock in good condition always sell well through winter time.
But the problem we've got is keeping the stock in
good condition. It's getting extremely expensive. We're getting about half
to a third depending on what doc we're talking about
of what they were sort of two and a half
years ago.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What about your overtures to government MPs the primary industries Minister,
Are you getting a hearing from anybody at the minute.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah. I've had a couple of meetings to sort of
try and get on top of a few issues. The
avatars is a major one. Credic Avatars has recently shut
down Gretna. I send some stock there under my brim
Creek meats their full capacity. I think they're booked out
until after Christmas. Yeah, we just need more avatars and
animal activists and not helping the situation because all the
(04:56):
meat works have got to do upgrades to satisfy their issue.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So the government stepped in very recently with hay for
Flinders and King Islands. That's just a very specific area
of Tasmania when many other farmers across the state are
in the same boat. I'm just wondering does there need
to be some sort of state government package or federal
government package for us here in Tasmania.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The way I said, we're in no different position to
the guys on King Island and Flinders Islands. The only
difference is that they're not used to these environmental changes.
I guess they haven't had to deal with the issues
that we have to deal with every ten or fifteen years.
So it would be great if we could get some
fighter into the state. But there's biosecurity issues with that.
There's a lot that needs to be done. I have
(05:42):
had meetings with Jane Howlett. She's been quite good with
the store animals, sheep and cattle that are of store condition.
They are very hard to sell because no farmer's got
any feed. In some cases they're giving away cattle and
giving away sheep.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
At the Brad Graditch, our guest on Heart he's running
five farms and coming up with Brad will discuss live
stock theft, which is rife and you won't believe the
links thieves go to before a quick break cat. You're
a known or of four horses in the south of
the state. How desperate is it right now to try
and feed them?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Currently the soccer a Cambridge limiting one bail per customer
per day and it's currently at the place for one
hundred and ninety dollars. I had pony club yesterday and
a friend of mine said she contacted her hay supplier
and he has now just doubled his price.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
My understanding is that's if you can find hay, so
you've got a supplier that at least has some stock.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Some do.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
The hay is mostly coming from down the Huean Way,
but it is most commonly two years old. It's not
a fresh hay, is cut and.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Feeds not necessarily the best that you'd prefer for your horses.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yes, well, hey, her horses a obviously very sensitive to
what they eat, so it is currently a danger for them.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What do you have to do? You have to look
for adjustment options and that's successfully happened for you. But
for a lot of people, are they very very worried
at the minute? Who own horses?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Well, the adiffment that I was at prior to moving
to my current one. They have just closed their reducements
and asked the other horse owners to leave the satprou.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I heart Tassi. More of the tough times for some
on the land in this state coming up. I heard
Dazzi I heart Azi. On this episode, we've been covering
some of the massive challenges posed by dry times for
a lot of the state's primary producers. Those escaping the
pain have the blessing of irrigation. Before we get back
(07:42):
to farmer Brad Gratitch, who's feeling the pinch, this is
a brief word from Lyons MP and former Miandervali Mayor
Mark Shelton on the power of irrigation which is expanding
in the southeast.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Irrigation in Tasmania spans more than this government had goes
back over previous governments. The dry spill that we had
around Tasmania this year has created difficulty for some. But
when we were have been able in the past, enabled
in pass to provide irrigation water that saved a lot
(08:15):
of farmers and regional communities. They were able to maintain
their activity assisted Tasmania's economy because they've grown their potatoes,
have grown their pleas and that's produced income. Without that
investment throng the federal government, from the state government and
from the farmers themselves, of course, we would had a
(08:36):
very difficult time in the regional Tasmania, a more difficult
time than that has been experienced.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Mark Shelton there right, Well, those farmers who are in
strife with livestock, feed shortages and astronomical prices, imagine finding
time and again, on top of all this, your animals
are being stolen. Brad Gratu is a farmer of five
farms in You've taken this problem to various people in
positions of authority Brat.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I spoke to Mark Shelton, Joe Palmer, and no one
really seemed it'll be that interested in doing anything. They said, Well,
the local police can do the job, but they can't.
They're not trained in livestock left and every year for
the last five years I've lost about twenty thousand dollars
per year in livestock in Stolin.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They'd have to be fairly well equipped and know what
they're doing to go and steal livestock in that fashion,
wouldn't they.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, they're very well organized. They go around of a
night time with night vision gear and they shoot the animal,
winch them into a trailer, and off they go. I
had thirty cattle knocked off in a time period of
about two months. I had a nine hundred and fifty
cattle in that group. I didn't realize. I thought of
what was going on. It's too late. Then I lost
thirteen twelve cars in one hit. Then I lost ten
(09:51):
big steers when they was three hundred and two kilos.
We had them weighed ready for market in a two
week period. When I came back, they're gone. I put
cameras up. They even steal my bloody ca And I've
changed gates. I've changed locks on gates. They cut the
pad locks, take the gates off. And my problem is
because I've got the separated properties, I can't be there
all the time. And that's just one thing that I've
(10:12):
got a budget for now, which I shouldn't have to.
Is stock theft. I got under the Shoot and Fishes
party this year. They did a little bit about it,
but nothing. No one seems to think it's an issue.
Meat and cost of leaving is just through the roof.
People need to eat. I mean who'd go and shoot
an old bull. I mean that shows you how desperate
they are to eat.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So what they're just slaughtering them themselves, clearly, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So they go around to shoot them at the night,
winch them into a trailer and take them back to
their little butchery sort of setup, process them and non
sell them. And there's so many people selling sides the
lamb and quarters of beef and all this sort of stuff.
I'd say ninety five percent of it is all backyard
and which is certainly illegal because all the meat has
to be inspected by health as inspector. I did raise
(10:55):
this with Jane Howlett and she's sort of not aware.
I don't know if you're doing they about it, but
you imagine that sort of stress that puts the farmer
under going out and finding that that sort of volume
of livestock has been stolen from his property. Drive you're crazy.
I spend eight thousand dollars on night vision gear myself
so that I can go to my property in the
off chance of catching someone and walk around with this
(11:17):
gear myself. And I've come close to catching some people,
but they're so smart. They got the same technology that
I've got and there's usually several of them, two or
three people.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And they go on Farmer Brad Graditch on Ihearttassy the
word is the level of livestock theft is under reporter
because farmers are very concerned about dabbed in thieves coming
back for retribution. Sometime back the Farmers and Graziers Association
understood primary producers know it's not beyond a fire being
started on their land as a payback. Regardless, Tasmania Police
(11:51):
has always encouraged the reporting of these crimes. We touched
on the incidents of farmers mental health earlier in the episode. Now,
I'll just refer you back to a survey from around
a year ago. Of thirteen hundred surveyed farmers, almost a
third had attempted self harm or suicide at the time.
Long System GP doctor Elizabeth Lord noted the risk is
(12:14):
exacerbated because farmers are often socially isolated, they work long
hours and are in an industry impacted by natural disasters.
One of many services offering support Lifeline one three, double
one one four. That's our episode of iHeart Tazzy in
Fuller's a podcast and back on air at the same
time next week.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
My Heart sassy,
I Heart Duzzy.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to our latest episode. I'm John Fabris. Well, it
might have turned a bit chilly in the mornings, but
Tasmania feels like it's had one of the sunniest stretches
of autumn weather I can remember for a long while.
Even Agfest had three days of clear skies, almost unheard of. Well,
those in our towns and cities might have been enjoying it.
Many primary producers without access to irrigation are going through
(00:27):
hell struggling to feed. Livestock Prices for hayes soaring, that's
if you can get it. Reports of mental health plummeting
for Tasmanian farmers, bringing some to the brink of even
dare we say it's suicide. Add to that a plague
of livestock theft. All of this coming up. I heart Duzzy.
Our guest Brad Graditch, who has farms in Forcet Brim Creek,
(00:51):
Paulina and the Central Highlands. Is this the worst dry
spell and livestock feed shortage you've seen, certainly for many years.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Certainly is because we, like the time, have sort of
three years worth of fodder in front of us. That's
hail and silage. We obviously didn't cut any hay last
year because of the season. We just didn't get a
spring and we've sort of been feeding out since early January.
We haven't got a lot of fighter left. There's an
eleven hundred head of cattle and fifteen hundred sheep, so
the cattle are the ones that you really need that
(01:21):
bulk feed. Certainly been a tough.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Time and the dry. I mean, the last time we
had something like this in my recollection was when Tassi's
power went down the bats Link cable back in twenty sixteen.
That was particularly dry. Do you think it's as bad
as that.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It was a very tough time in twenty sixteen. However,
at the moment we've got Flinders, King Island, the Northwest Coast,
the whole Tasmania. We need a good autumn break, which
is nearly too late anyway, but it's certainly worse than
it was in twenty sixteen because at the moment, if
we want to sell stock to other farmers, they've got
to go over to the mainland where there is a
(01:57):
little bit of feed. But then you've got shipping issues.
You know, you're sort of four weeks to get them
on a boat. You've got to sort of be able
to hold them for another extra four weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And what a prices then of feed obviously astronomical at
the moment, and that's if you can get it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I don't even know. I have two or three people
a day texting me or wringing me. Do I know
where there's any hay? I would not know. There's just
I don't know what's going to happen when it gets cold,
because there's a lot of people just sort of relying
on this warmer weather at the moment, but it's not
going to stay like that. It's when it gets cold, Hey,
it's going to get in silent joys, there's anything about
that people might let go. It's going to be very expensive.
(02:31):
I've already heard of quotes of you know, one hundred
and eighty dollars for round bails or hey, lousen is
about two hundred and fifty a bail and silence. You know,
it's going to be around that two hundred dollars mark.
But it'll only be exceptional circumstances which people will sell
their hay. If father decided to sell some stock for
a lower price.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
This is where our conversation can become very sensitive.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
My understanding is you know of people on the land
who are really in a bad way mentally, some even suicidal.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah. Look, unfortunately I do know some people that have
taken their own lives in recent times because of everything
that the farmer has to deal with. It's the so
many aspects of it that you've got to deal with
which are out of your control. Selling livestock at a
lesser price is one thing. Not even been able to
sell them because if they get too lighting condition. No
of a neighbor that actually sold twenty cows for dolt
(03:27):
food because they're too poor to go anywhere else pretty
much twenty or fifty dollars each. He didn't want to
see them starve through the winter, so that was the
choice he made, which has huge mental financial impact.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
My understanding is that our slaughter house capacity here is
pretty bad at the minute. They've got a long waiting
list as it is for livestock.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is that correct, Yeah, that is correct. Well, there's a
lot of cattle coming off Flinders in King Island, so
they've sort of been taking up kill space mainly cattle
to get can'tle into an advatise at the moment, you're
looking at about four months, so you've got to keep
them in the good body condition so that they're killable,
otherwise they won't accept them.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What sort of prices are you getting and how did
they compare to where we might have been a year
to three years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Good stock in good condition always sell well through winter time.
But the problem we've got is keeping the stock in
good condition. It's getting extremely expensive. We're getting about half
to a third depending on what doc we're talking about
of what they were sort of two and a half
years ago.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What about your overtures to government MPs the primary industries Minister,
Are you getting a hearing from anybody at the minute.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah. I've had a couple of meetings to sort of
try and get on top of a few issues. The
avatars is a major one. Credic Avatars has recently shut
down Gretna. I send some stock there under my brim
Creek meats their full capacity. I think they're booked out
until after Christmas. Yeah, we just need more avatars and
animal activists and not helping the situation because all the
(04:56):
meat works have got to do upgrades to satisfy their issue.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So the government stepped in very recently with hay for
Flinders and King Islands. That's just a very specific area
of Tasmania when many other farmers across the state are
in the same boat. I'm just wondering does there need
to be some sort of state government package or federal
government package for us here in Tasmania.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The way I said, we're in no different position to
the guys on King Island and Flinders Islands. The only
difference is that they're not used to these environmental changes.
I guess they haven't had to deal with the issues
that we have to deal with every ten or fifteen years.
So it would be great if we could get some
fighter into the state. But there's biosecurity issues with that.
There's a lot that needs to be done. I have
(05:42):
had meetings with Jane Howlett. She's been quite good with
the store animals, sheep and cattle that are of store condition.
They are very hard to sell because no farmer's got
any feed. In some cases they're giving away cattle and
giving away sheep.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
At the Brad Graditch, our guest on Heart he's running
five farms and coming up with Brad will discuss live
stock theft, which is rife and you won't believe the
links thieves go to before a quick break cat. You're
a known or of four horses in the south of
the state. How desperate is it right now to try
and feed them?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Currently the soccer a Cambridge limiting one bail per customer
per day and it's currently at the place for one
hundred and ninety dollars. I had pony club yesterday and
a friend of mine said she contacted her hay supplier
and he has now just doubled his price.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
My understanding is that's if you can find hay, so
you've got a supplier that at least has some stock.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Some do.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
The hay is mostly coming from down the Huean Way,
but it is most commonly two years old. It's not
a fresh hay, is cut and.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Feeds not necessarily the best that you'd prefer for your horses.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yes, well, hey, her horses a obviously very sensitive to
what they eat, so it is currently a danger for them.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What do you have to do? You have to look
for adjustment options and that's successfully happened for you. But
for a lot of people, are they very very worried
at the minute? Who own horses?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Well, the adiffment that I was at prior to moving
to my current one. They have just closed their reducements
and asked the other horse owners to leave the satprou.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I heart Tassi. More of the tough times for some
on the land in this state coming up. I heard
Dazzi I heart Azi. On this episode, we've been covering
some of the massive challenges posed by dry times for
a lot of the state's primary producers. Those escaping the
pain have the blessing of irrigation. Before we get back
(07:42):
to farmer Brad Gratitch, who's feeling the pinch, this is
a brief word from Lyons MP and former Miandervali Mayor
Mark Shelton on the power of irrigation which is expanding
in the southeast.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Irrigation in Tasmania spans more than this government had goes
back over previous governments. The dry spill that we had
around Tasmania this year has created difficulty for some. But
when we were have been able in the past, enabled
in pass to provide irrigation water that saved a lot
(08:15):
of farmers and regional communities. They were able to maintain
their activity assisted Tasmania's economy because they've grown their potatoes,
have grown their pleas and that's produced income. Without that
investment throng the federal government, from the state government and
from the farmers themselves, of course, we would had a
(08:36):
very difficult time in the regional Tasmania, a more difficult
time than that has been experienced.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Mark Shelton there right, Well, those farmers who are in
strife with livestock, feed shortages and astronomical prices, imagine finding
time and again, on top of all this, your animals
are being stolen. Brad Gratu is a farmer of five
farms in You've taken this problem to various people in
positions of authority Brat.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I spoke to Mark Shelton, Joe Palmer, and no one
really seemed it'll be that interested in doing anything. They said, Well,
the local police can do the job, but they can't.
They're not trained in livestock left and every year for
the last five years I've lost about twenty thousand dollars
per year in livestock in Stolin.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They'd have to be fairly well equipped and know what
they're doing to go and steal livestock in that fashion,
wouldn't they.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, they're very well organized. They go around of a
night time with night vision gear and they shoot the animal,
winch them into a trailer, and off they go. I
had thirty cattle knocked off in a time period of
about two months. I had a nine hundred and fifty
cattle in that group. I didn't realize. I thought of
what was going on. It's too late. Then I lost
thirteen twelve cars in one hit. Then I lost ten
(09:51):
big steers when they was three hundred and two kilos.
We had them weighed ready for market in a two
week period. When I came back, they're gone. I put
cameras up. They even steal my bloody ca And I've
changed gates. I've changed locks on gates. They cut the
pad locks, take the gates off. And my problem is
because I've got the separated properties, I can't be there
all the time. And that's just one thing that I've
(10:12):
got a budget for now, which I shouldn't have to.
Is stock theft. I got under the Shoot and Fishes
party this year. They did a little bit about it,
but nothing. No one seems to think it's an issue.
Meat and cost of leaving is just through the roof.
People need to eat. I mean who'd go and shoot
an old bull. I mean that shows you how desperate
they are to eat.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So what they're just slaughtering them themselves, clearly, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So they go around to shoot them at the night,
winch them into a trailer and take them back to
their little butchery sort of setup, process them and non
sell them. And there's so many people selling sides the
lamb and quarters of beef and all this sort of stuff.
I'd say ninety five percent of it is all backyard
and which is certainly illegal because all the meat has
to be inspected by health as inspector. I did raise
(10:55):
this with Jane Howlett and she's sort of not aware.
I don't know if you're doing they about it, but
you imagine that sort of stress that puts the farmer
under going out and finding that that sort of volume
of livestock has been stolen from his property. Drive you're crazy.
I spend eight thousand dollars on night vision gear myself
so that I can go to my property in the
off chance of catching someone and walk around with this
(11:17):
gear myself. And I've come close to catching some people,
but they're so smart. They got the same technology that
I've got and there's usually several of them, two or
three people.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And they go on Farmer Brad Graditch on Ihearttassy the
word is the level of livestock theft is under reporter
because farmers are very concerned about dabbed in thieves coming
back for retribution. Sometime back the Farmers and Graziers Association
understood primary producers know it's not beyond a fire being
started on their land as a payback. Regardless, Tasmania Police
(11:51):
has always encouraged the reporting of these crimes. We touched
on the incidents of farmers mental health earlier in the episode. Now,
I'll just refer you back to a survey from around
a year ago. Of thirteen hundred surveyed farmers, almost a
third had attempted self harm or suicide at the time.
Long System GP doctor Elizabeth Lord noted the risk is
(12:14):
exacerbated because farmers are often socially isolated, they work long
hours and are in an industry impacted by natural disasters.
One of many services offering support Lifeline one three, double
one one four. That's our episode of iHeart Tazzy in
Fuller's a podcast and back on air at the same
time next week.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
My Heart sassy,
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