December 14, 2023 • 14 mins
There are almost 1500 children registered for home education in Tasmania.
But why are parents choosing to homeschool, and how do you go about it?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I Heart Dazzy.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know there's a lot involved in time you're hating.
I think people also need to understand that what happened
during COVID when people said they were homeschooling, that wasn't homeschooling.
That was only high silicated by the schools.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
There are almost fifteen hundred children registered for home education
in Tasmania. But why are parents choosing to homeschool and
how do you go about it? I'm britt Aalen and
this is iHeart.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Tazzy, My Heart Dazzy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Andrea has ten children and has been homeschooling for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Our first three are quite close together, and they're all boys.
There's only three years between them, and they're best friends.
And our eldest birthdays in December, and so he was
quite young for his age and quite small, and my
husband was like, I think we should keep him home
per year, you know, if you can hang out with
his brothers.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
She says she never set out to do it full time.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And the idea was just to do it per year.
See how we went, and then put him in school
when he was a little bit bigger, but by then
the next one was supposed to go to school and
it was working really well. So every year basically we're
posessing on visits, still footing, are we happy with it?
And yeah, it was kept going through.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Denise Cox's chair of the Tasmanian Home Education Advisory Council,
says home educators often fall into one of two categories.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
There's appears that might have been homage TeVeS themselves or
have always had been home educated children, and so they've
they've kind of researched or they've lived the experience, or
they've been around people who have home educated and they
kind of have a good knowledge place. And then there's
people like me that are completely climbing the deepen and
you kind of stumble your way through.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Denise has multiple children, some homeschooled and others educated through
mainstream schooling. She says some kids have diverse learning needs
and a better suited to learning in a home environment,
and we're.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Seeing a quite a steady increase of his coming into
home education that may be gifted and not catered for
within mainstream school and challenged enough. We see a lot
of kids on the spectrum so who have autism adhd
PDA with is pathological demand avoidance bustic hill, defiance, disorder,
(02:13):
disparat here this calculter, it's quite a wide veried and
trauma as well, so that there's quite a white a
number of reasons why children with the person needs a
home educated because their parents feel that their needs are
not being met within the mainstream stoling system and can
(02:33):
be quite desperate to get them out of that and
try something different.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
For Andrea, and she tried sending her eldest to high
school when he reached grade seven.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And he lasted six weeks there. He hated it, absolutely
hated it, and came home and he was like, you
know already he was so good at music. He's like,
I'm my Hondymoe music stuff. I had a sporty person,
so I'm sitting on the bench. I already know how
to cook because we just do that naturally at home.
He was very interesting in MAX. He was getting prostrated
(03:03):
because they wanted to just hit things to keep up
to where they had to be, and he wanted to
actually in the concepts. So yeah, so he lasted six
weeks and we realized no, we actually came with it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
The same thing happened when he got to grade eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So he actually went to college for six months and
then pulled himself back out because he's like he went
out weighs. He actually wanted to run a small business.
He'd already started, He's already set it up, and so
he pulled out and continued to use that as part
of his program. So we haven't seen any of the
others so as Soosia can't compare it to they've been
(03:39):
at school now they've been at home. But what we
have found is that all of our children, by the
time they hit about grade ten, had very clear directions
on what they put at, what they want to do,
and basically already moving into that.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
For Andrea, the biggest benefit of home education is allowing
her kids to pursue their own interests.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
For instance, my age who's in grade nine, she's an
incredible artist. She's quite this flexy, really struggles academically, but
because she's so good art, I actually found somebody who's
got a doctorate in art who was on the turn.
If you leave, and so she goes. We get a
deal where she goes and cleans her house once a
(04:23):
fortnite and the other fortnight she goes and has it
to our art lessons, so she's one on one with
you know, someone who's lecturing at the university learning how
to do art. So if she was at school, you
couldn't do that because, yeah, the time factor wouldn't fit.
All my children have done things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
One of the biggest concerns people have about homeschooling is
how children cope without the social aspect of school, but
Denise says, there are many ways that kids can socialize.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I just I think, like a whole another conversation,
being a class of twenty five or thirty SIPs as
the same as doesn't make it social for some stills
because with autism, you know, that actually can inhibit their
social skills with the anxiety level so high. Within a
high educated community, there are many many different social groups
(05:16):
or many different sporting activities.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
When Christine took her kids out of mainstream schooling, it
was important to her that they maintained interaction with their peers.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I had seen children that were like, really well behaved
and polite and friendly and respectful to adults, so I
hadn't seen any of the negatives. But I didn't want
my kids, when I home educated, not to feel disconnected
(05:46):
from the mainstream, so we kept all their friendships going.
So I kept friendships up with some of their kids
from school, and we spent a lot of time making
sure they were taking part in community and not just
(06:08):
being disconnected from community.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
She's part of a home education group.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And when I started in that group nine years ago,
it was just three families and it was a very
small group, and now it's just huge, and you wouldn't
you'd turn up and you wouldn't even know all the
family says. So you're constantly meeting new people. So that's
every Thursday we do that. Then recently we had a
(06:35):
home education market which was huge again, and this was
our second one, and last year it was just wonderful,
and then this year, well more people I'd ever met before.
So I'm constantly meeting new home educated.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Her kids also attend church and other extracurricular activities.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
My girls actually do a ballet and they're out two
or three nights a week and made really close three
their ballet class. And plenty of home educators join youth ensembles,
theater ensembles, and follow musical interests and are part of
(07:14):
those sorts of groups. That's so yeah, it's just it's
about making efforts to be involved. There's no reason to
just isolate yourself from community. And in fact, I feel
in a lot of ways home educated children are more socialized.
They get to speak with a lot of adults rather
(07:37):
than just children their own age.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So you're interested in homeschooling, but how do you get started?
Coming up in this episode of My Heart Tassy, we'll
learn about how the home education system works here in Tasmania.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
My Heart Zazi, my Heart as the Least.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Has homeschooled three children, taking the opportunity to try travel
and teach at the same time.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
We did a lot of traveling and my husband's a nurse.
At one point we did a big road trip for
two years around the mainland. He was working for agency
doing agency work working in remote areas, so he'd get
a contract for three months in one area and then
we travel for another three months and then he'd work again.
So we went around the whole of Australia, and we
(08:23):
also went through the middle and went to areas that
we would never have gone to otherwise.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
She says there are so many things she's learned herself
through home education that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Education isn't something that suddenly starts at the age of
five when they go to school. That's something that's happening
all the time, that parents are their children's first teachers,
because children are just like little sponges, soaking up everything
that goes on around them, and that it's okay to
just relax and you don't have to force or push anything.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And like many others, she's found her own school and community.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
There are plenty of social opportunities your child will not
be related. There are a great potituly in Tasmania. There
are a great supportive homeschool communities, a little lot of
home educated in Tasmania, so you don't have to do
it on your own.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Alice says learning is a lifelong process and it doesn't
have to happen at a desk.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
They don't always have to be doing stuff. And it's
okay for kids to be bored as well, because boredom
is a great spurt of creativity. A lot of homeschoolers
are very creative. It's amazing the stuff you'll see them doing,
and kids will come up with stuff that their parents
would never thought of the million years. So again it's
okay to learn from your kids as well. You don't
(09:36):
have to be. It's not a hierarchical situation. It's not
I'm the teacher my child as a student. It's a
much more holistic relationship for that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If you're interested in pursuing home education for your child,
the first step is to call the Office of Education Registrar.
Denise Cox, the chair of the Tasmanian Home Education Advisory Council, explains,
so what they need to.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Do is completely advocated form and along with that they
need to submit to what's HESS which is their High
Education Summary program. So that's the DOTEN and that has
to be written in their own words by the parents
and outline how they're going to address the TAME standards
for home edication.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Parents can't just make it up to say go along.
It's important to have a plan.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Lifetime standards are the first. Learning needs research, So your
research and term medication. You know who've spoken to, what
websites have you looked at, what programs you're looking into,
your pedagogy, how you to do it or the aims
of homeschooling your child, and then it goes into your literacy, immunity,
your range of learning areas well being interpersonal skills, future
(10:39):
directions for children who are thirteen and age thirteen and
over and your evaluation.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
There are curriculums that you can purchase, but parents need
to design, implement, and evaluate their own program.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But it's quite often what we see is people come
in and they kind of don't have a very clear
idea of how it works or what they're going to do,
and it can be very overwhelming. The you thon wh've
got to be with the first learning needs, You've got
lots of other things going on. You know, you may
try to make a sanity in the household, and quite
often these people need a period of pricy be compressed
(11:09):
before they sort of start more of a formal learning pattern.
I guess within HIME education.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Once you've worked through the hs document, it's submitted to
the Office of Education Registrant where it's reviewed by a
registration officer.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
If they require more information, they're alltfure information out. They're
there to work with the family. They're lovely, lovely groups
of people and they're there's help you make it work,
and if they need more information they request that. Then
from there the process goes to SAC and it's reviewed
by SIAC in. Any comments on the program go back
to the registrants and then the registered that gives provisional.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Approval, an assessment is then undertaken.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
What happens from there is that a registration office will
visit the family and have a look at how their
programs going and just stussing on any problems the family
might be experiencing or any resource sort of options or
social outlets. Have a look at the evidence of the
work that's being done, and from there they write a
report which comes back through to be viewed by FIAT
(12:09):
as well, and then it goes to the Education Register
who will either approve or maybe the horse motulation for
the family to have twelve months registrations and then what
happens is after the twelve months you go through that
whole process again. You need to write an individual HEP
every year for your speech trial that you have registered
(12:31):
in home education.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's much more detailed and involved process than many would expect,
but there is a.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Lot that goes into home education. I think people don't
realize that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Denise says many parents make huge sacrifices to put their
children through home education.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
There's no funding for those those parents who pull their
kids out because they're not fitting main strength. For whatever reason,
this might be mass of fundings we are just to
their needs, or they're just not sitting or the anxieties
too much is the shige stress of it all is
too much people have. Remember those parents are losing an
income to home educate their child, and they don't have
(13:07):
support and links that some schools can provide with the
first learning needs. They're kind of left on their own.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And she says her biggest piece of advice to new
home educators is not to try and replicate the school system.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You don't have to do the ninety three learning happens
all the times, you know, you don't have to be
sitting at a death to learn. Sure, some kids like
that structure and it works too well for them. And
that's the beautiful thing about home education New Taylor. Actually
with the needs of each child. And you could have
several children yourself and they all earned differently because that
have four very completely different programs that kind of overlows
(13:41):
for some areas. But yeah, the biggest thing is don't
replicate the school system.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And that's it for a heart Tazzi for twenty twenty three.
We'll be back next year with all new episodes, but
until then you can revisit our past stories on our
podcast feed. I'm britt Alan. Thanks for your company.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
My heart as a
I Heart Dazzy.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know there's a lot involved in time you're hating.
I think people also need to understand that what happened
during COVID when people said they were homeschooling, that wasn't homeschooling.
That was only high silicated by the schools.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
There are almost fifteen hundred children registered for home education
in Tasmania. But why are parents choosing to homeschool and
how do you go about it? I'm britt Aalen and
this is iHeart.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Tazzy, My Heart Dazzy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Andrea has ten children and has been homeschooling for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Our first three are quite close together, and they're all boys.
There's only three years between them, and they're best friends.
And our eldest birthdays in December, and so he was
quite young for his age and quite small, and my
husband was like, I think we should keep him home
per year, you know, if you can hang out with
his brothers.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
She says she never set out to do it full time.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And the idea was just to do it per year.
See how we went, and then put him in school
when he was a little bit bigger, but by then
the next one was supposed to go to school and
it was working really well. So every year basically we're
posessing on visits, still footing, are we happy with it?
And yeah, it was kept going through.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Denise Cox's chair of the Tasmanian Home Education Advisory Council,
says home educators often fall into one of two categories.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
There's appears that might have been homage TeVeS themselves or
have always had been home educated children, and so they've
they've kind of researched or they've lived the experience, or
they've been around people who have home educated and they
kind of have a good knowledge place. And then there's
people like me that are completely climbing the deepen and
you kind of stumble your way through.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Denise has multiple children, some homeschooled and others educated through
mainstream schooling. She says some kids have diverse learning needs
and a better suited to learning in a home environment,
and we're.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Seeing a quite a steady increase of his coming into
home education that may be gifted and not catered for
within mainstream school and challenged enough. We see a lot
of kids on the spectrum so who have autism adhd
PDA with is pathological demand avoidance bustic hill, defiance, disorder,
(02:13):
disparat here this calculter, it's quite a wide veried and
trauma as well, so that there's quite a white a
number of reasons why children with the person needs a
home educated because their parents feel that their needs are
not being met within the mainstream stoling system and can
(02:33):
be quite desperate to get them out of that and
try something different.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
For Andrea, and she tried sending her eldest to high
school when he reached grade seven.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And he lasted six weeks there. He hated it, absolutely
hated it, and came home and he was like, you
know already he was so good at music. He's like,
I'm my Hondymoe music stuff. I had a sporty person,
so I'm sitting on the bench. I already know how
to cook because we just do that naturally at home.
He was very interesting in MAX. He was getting prostrated
(03:03):
because they wanted to just hit things to keep up
to where they had to be, and he wanted to
actually in the concepts. So yeah, so he lasted six
weeks and we realized no, we actually came with it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
The same thing happened when he got to grade eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So he actually went to college for six months and
then pulled himself back out because he's like he went
out weighs. He actually wanted to run a small business.
He'd already started, He's already set it up, and so
he pulled out and continued to use that as part
of his program. So we haven't seen any of the
others so as Soosia can't compare it to they've been
(03:39):
at school now they've been at home. But what we
have found is that all of our children, by the
time they hit about grade ten, had very clear directions
on what they put at, what they want to do,
and basically already moving into that.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
For Andrea, the biggest benefit of home education is allowing
her kids to pursue their own interests.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
For instance, my age who's in grade nine, she's an
incredible artist. She's quite this flexy, really struggles academically, but
because she's so good art, I actually found somebody who's
got a doctorate in art who was on the turn.
If you leave, and so she goes. We get a
deal where she goes and cleans her house once a
(04:23):
fortnite and the other fortnight she goes and has it
to our art lessons, so she's one on one with
you know, someone who's lecturing at the university learning how
to do art. So if she was at school, you
couldn't do that because, yeah, the time factor wouldn't fit.
All my children have done things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
One of the biggest concerns people have about homeschooling is
how children cope without the social aspect of school, but
Denise says, there are many ways that kids can socialize.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I just I think, like a whole another conversation,
being a class of twenty five or thirty SIPs as
the same as doesn't make it social for some stills
because with autism, you know, that actually can inhibit their
social skills with the anxiety level so high. Within a
high educated community, there are many many different social groups
(05:16):
or many different sporting activities.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
When Christine took her kids out of mainstream schooling, it
was important to her that they maintained interaction with their peers.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I had seen children that were like, really well behaved
and polite and friendly and respectful to adults, so I
hadn't seen any of the negatives. But I didn't want
my kids, when I home educated, not to feel disconnected
(05:46):
from the mainstream, so we kept all their friendships going.
So I kept friendships up with some of their kids
from school, and we spent a lot of time making
sure they were taking part in community and not just
(06:08):
being disconnected from community.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
She's part of a home education group.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And when I started in that group nine years ago,
it was just three families and it was a very
small group, and now it's just huge, and you wouldn't
you'd turn up and you wouldn't even know all the
family says. So you're constantly meeting new people. So that's
every Thursday we do that. Then recently we had a
(06:35):
home education market which was huge again, and this was
our second one, and last year it was just wonderful,
and then this year, well more people I'd ever met before.
So I'm constantly meeting new home educated.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Her kids also attend church and other extracurricular activities.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
My girls actually do a ballet and they're out two
or three nights a week and made really close three
their ballet class. And plenty of home educators join youth ensembles,
theater ensembles, and follow musical interests and are part of
(07:14):
those sorts of groups. That's so yeah, it's just it's
about making efforts to be involved. There's no reason to
just isolate yourself from community. And in fact, I feel
in a lot of ways home educated children are more socialized.
They get to speak with a lot of adults rather
(07:37):
than just children their own age.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So you're interested in homeschooling, but how do you get started?
Coming up in this episode of My Heart Tassy, we'll
learn about how the home education system works here in Tasmania.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
My Heart Zazi, my Heart as the Least.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Has homeschooled three children, taking the opportunity to try travel
and teach at the same time.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
We did a lot of traveling and my husband's a nurse.
At one point we did a big road trip for
two years around the mainland. He was working for agency
doing agency work working in remote areas, so he'd get
a contract for three months in one area and then
we travel for another three months and then he'd work again.
So we went around the whole of Australia, and we
(08:23):
also went through the middle and went to areas that
we would never have gone to otherwise.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
She says there are so many things she's learned herself
through home education that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Education isn't something that suddenly starts at the age of
five when they go to school. That's something that's happening
all the time, that parents are their children's first teachers,
because children are just like little sponges, soaking up everything
that goes on around them, and that it's okay to
just relax and you don't have to force or push anything.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And like many others, she's found her own school and community.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
There are plenty of social opportunities your child will not
be related. There are a great potituly in Tasmania. There
are a great supportive homeschool communities, a little lot of
home educated in Tasmania, so you don't have to do
it on your own.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Alice says learning is a lifelong process and it doesn't
have to happen at a desk.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
They don't always have to be doing stuff. And it's
okay for kids to be bored as well, because boredom
is a great spurt of creativity. A lot of homeschoolers
are very creative. It's amazing the stuff you'll see them doing,
and kids will come up with stuff that their parents
would never thought of the million years. So again it's
okay to learn from your kids as well. You don't
(09:36):
have to be. It's not a hierarchical situation. It's not
I'm the teacher my child as a student. It's a
much more holistic relationship for that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If you're interested in pursuing home education for your child,
the first step is to call the Office of Education Registrar.
Denise Cox, the chair of the Tasmanian Home Education Advisory Council, explains,
so what they need to.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Do is completely advocated form and along with that they
need to submit to what's HESS which is their High
Education Summary program. So that's the DOTEN and that has
to be written in their own words by the parents
and outline how they're going to address the TAME standards
for home edication.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Parents can't just make it up to say go along.
It's important to have a plan.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Lifetime standards are the first. Learning needs research, So your
research and term medication. You know who've spoken to, what
websites have you looked at, what programs you're looking into,
your pedagogy, how you to do it or the aims
of homeschooling your child, and then it goes into your literacy, immunity,
your range of learning areas well being interpersonal skills, future
(10:39):
directions for children who are thirteen and age thirteen and
over and your evaluation.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
There are curriculums that you can purchase, but parents need
to design, implement, and evaluate their own program.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But it's quite often what we see is people come
in and they kind of don't have a very clear
idea of how it works or what they're going to do,
and it can be very overwhelming. The you thon wh've
got to be with the first learning needs, You've got
lots of other things going on. You know, you may
try to make a sanity in the household, and quite
often these people need a period of pricy be compressed
(11:09):
before they sort of start more of a formal learning pattern.
I guess within HIME education.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Once you've worked through the hs document, it's submitted to
the Office of Education Registrant where it's reviewed by a
registration officer.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
If they require more information, they're alltfure information out. They're
there to work with the family. They're lovely, lovely groups
of people and they're there's help you make it work,
and if they need more information they request that. Then
from there the process goes to SAC and it's reviewed
by SIAC in. Any comments on the program go back
to the registrants and then the registered that gives provisional.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Approval, an assessment is then undertaken.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
What happens from there is that a registration office will
visit the family and have a look at how their
programs going and just stussing on any problems the family
might be experiencing or any resource sort of options or
social outlets. Have a look at the evidence of the
work that's being done, and from there they write a
report which comes back through to be viewed by FIAT
(12:09):
as well, and then it goes to the Education Register
who will either approve or maybe the horse motulation for
the family to have twelve months registrations and then what
happens is after the twelve months you go through that
whole process again. You need to write an individual HEP
every year for your speech trial that you have registered
(12:31):
in home education.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's much more detailed and involved process than many would expect,
but there is a.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Lot that goes into home education. I think people don't
realize that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Denise says many parents make huge sacrifices to put their
children through home education.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
There's no funding for those those parents who pull their
kids out because they're not fitting main strength. For whatever reason,
this might be mass of fundings we are just to
their needs, or they're just not sitting or the anxieties
too much is the shige stress of it all is
too much people have. Remember those parents are losing an
income to home educate their child, and they don't have
(13:07):
support and links that some schools can provide with the
first learning needs. They're kind of left on their own.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And she says her biggest piece of advice to new
home educators is not to try and replicate the school system.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You don't have to do the ninety three learning happens
all the times, you know, you don't have to be
sitting at a death to learn. Sure, some kids like
that structure and it works too well for them. And
that's the beautiful thing about home education New Taylor. Actually
with the needs of each child. And you could have
several children yourself and they all earned differently because that
have four very completely different programs that kind of overlows
(13:41):
for some areas. But yeah, the biggest thing is don't
replicate the school system.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And that's it for a heart Tazzi for twenty twenty three.
We'll be back next year with all new episodes, but
until then you can revisit our past stories on our
podcast feed. I'm britt Alan. Thanks for your company.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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