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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation All.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Our next guest is a favorite of ours. He's an
Australian icon, so much so that Tim Winton has been
named a National Living Treasure. The acclaimed author has written
over thirty books during his forty plus year career, earning
him the Miles Franklin Award four times. He's back with
a new book called Juice, and we're thrilled to algomim
to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Tim, Hello, good day, How are you right? Thanks? Tim?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We love apocalyptic sort of futuristic books and I'm just
churning through this thing at the moment. I just love it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Tell us about Juice, well, I mean it's a kind
of an adventure story, really, a kind of a survival story. Yeah.
It starts off with a guy who's plugging away on
his sort of homemade vehicle through a pretty bited sort
of landscape. And he's got a kid with him who's,
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as it turns out, not he's kid, but he's responsible
for her, and he's looking for or somewhere safe to stay. Really,
he's just looking for some kind of settlement that he
might be able to rest in. He's a kind of
an internal refugee. If you if you like, he's become
homeless and landless, and he's he's from the north of
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Australia and he ends up in the south as as
the weather changes, and he's just trying to find somewhere
somewhere to sort of somewhere safe to be, you know,
because things aren't things are going very quickly down the duney,
shall we say.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
As the weather changing. It's interesting you say. Juice has
been described as a love letter to Australia and a
hate mount of those who lay waste to the earth.
But I read that you resisted writing it for a
long time. Why was that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's a tough subject. I mean, who really wants to
write about the end of the world, you know, or
the possible end of the world. So it's pretty confronting,
and you know, it's a kind of a it's a
vision of hell, if you if you know what I mean.
I mean, it's basically, you know, the people in my
book are sort of having to deal with a kind
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of world that you know, I don't want to see
come about. And so I guess I'm just you know,
with the help of the you know, the science, just
try to imagine my way into a possible future if
we don't pull our finger out about taking meaningful and
urgent action on climate change.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And the book depicts how far into the future is this.
I'm trying to think, like, is it one hundred years
out of where we are now or fifty or I.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Think it's now. I think it's probably more than one
hundred years. I mean, I think, I mean, you know,
I'm probably dancing around in the book not being too
specific on that front because because you know, a lot
of records have been lost and people and not sure
where they are really by the stage, society is broken down.
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But I think we're you know, we're finding that things
are changing very quickly. So all the worse predictions that
people were making, you know, when I was in high school,
not only have they come true, that things are much
worse than people predicted already. I mean, we're at winter
temperatures in the north of Australia in the forties this winter. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, And if you got to when I worked down
an westn Australia to Karatha. Admitutely, it's been a long
time since I've been there, but there was one day it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Was like thirty eight degrees in winter.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
No, not in winter. When do you in a beautiful
twenty nine thirty eight degrees thirty eight degrees celsius like
every days? That's just today thirty eight And fine.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Well, we're going to make parts of the world I inhabit.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
But in this book it gives you you can't even
live above the ground. All the people live underground because
the heat is such and all the water table, the
salt waters will come up and take it away, all
the fresh water. So these are the things whoa.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, look, I don't think people have in Australia have
really much of an idea of what's going to happen.
The northern and part of Australia will be uninhabitable, and
of course they're all going to end up in in
Melbourne and Sydney. And I don't know if Melbourne and
Sydney is ready for that. I mean everyone went that
runs on about stopping the boats. How are you going
to stop the utes?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, But when I look at futuristic stuff like Mad
Max and stuff, you know how they dress in Mad Max.
At what point do they change into the outfit to
the leather stuff, Because it's sort of like, is it overnight.
Does that happen or does it?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Like you know? And where are they finding the leather? Yeah?
Exactly if if if, if cattle have become completely unable
to be raised, where are you going to find the
leather unless you've got a nice Pleasa factory set up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can I ask you this too? As a national living treasure?
Does that mean that once a year they put scaffolding
around you and get a bit of the bird pooh
or something?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh? Yeah, well, I mean you, I think that i'd
look after myself better than I do. But yeah, yeah,
when the cherry picker comes out and they've got the jet,
they've got the clean. In terms of a dermabrasing, it's
very extreme.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
When they break out the gurney on, Tim Winton.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's right, you know, and it's knock all my freckles off.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, you don't want to gurney ner freckle. Tim. It's
great to talk to you again. The book is fantastic.
I'm just enjoying it's such a page turner. It's at
all good bookstores. It's called Juice. Tim Winton, thank you
for joining.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Us Pleasure guys, have a good morning.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Tim. Carry on,