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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, what a day today. Here is our podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Is our podcast. We're going to put Anthony Alberaneze's proposal
to ban social media until the age of sixteen. We're
going to put that to the pub test. As an
adjunct to that, I brought up the story of Kirsty also.
She is an English television presenter. Her son, who was
one month shive of sixteen, when traveling around Europe on
the train system on the rails, didn't go off the
rails with a friend of his who was sixteen. She

(00:23):
copped a barrage of criticism for being a neglectful parent.
She even got visited by Social services and she's saying,
what are we doing to our young kids? On one
hand was saying, don't be on your phone, but the
minute they try and have a sense of adventure or
resilience or any of that, suddenly that's terrifying too. Anyway,
all those things that discussed on today's show.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So I know it's a bit about social media is
Grace Tame. She'll be joining us as well.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And Emma Gillespie deep dives on what's happening with the
Murdoch family succession.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's all coming up in this podcast. Everybody that a
miracle of recording. We have so many requests for them
to do it again.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Mistress Amanda and miss Killer Amanda doesn't work alone.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Friend room making the tools of the train.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot, the
legendary poet Jonesy, Amanda the actress.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Congratulations, man, we're there any right now.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Josey and Amanda, you're doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
But your silky giant.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Good radio.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Sorry, but it's a tongue tongue twist set and Amanda's
shoot timing. We're on the are top of the money
to you, Amanda. How are you today?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm well, but I'm a bit disappointed in a hero
of mine.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Is this about the monocular thing? No, no, no, because
it's not about we sanctioned.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
It's okay for me to have the binnacles in the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well, it's interesting though, yesterday proven we did a whippole
and guys, mostly.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Guys everyone, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
But online, Actually, now that you brought this up, I
wasn't going to online. The majority of people, a very
small winning by a very small majority, think that you
shouldn't think that.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Europe I think I'm or what I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know, I didn't say it. That was the wording
of this.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Is you controlling the narrative.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
This is the wording of it. I didn't set up
the wording. People said, mostly women have said, don't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's a problem with the woke world that we're living
in now.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Bred man can't have a pair of binoculars to surveil
his city to see what's going on, so I can
report to the good.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
You can do it, good citizens of our town. You
can do what every what's the metropolis.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Brendon as a strong white man, funny enough, you can
do whatever you like. People are just saying you do it.
But here's what I think of you, and you deal
with it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
The reason I'm disappointed?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
What do you disappear?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
He's a press release just that's half an hour old
from Dave Gross Breaking news from Dave Groll from the
Food Fighters. I've recently become the father of a new
baby daughter, congratulations, born outside my marriage. I plan to
be a loving and supportive parent to her. I love
my wife and my children, and I'm doing everything I

(03:10):
can to regain their trust and earn their forgiveness. We're
grateful for your consideration toward all the children involved, my
many many children as we move forward together.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
So awkward, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So he's been married since two thousand and three to
a women called Jordan. They have three d the eldest
together is eighteen. They've got three kids. I'm just the
behold at women like me. I think this morning, Dave,
not you, Dave, not you too, Dave.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
Dave, Dave, but Dave, what's the butt if for another time?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
A man like Dave needs to spready seed abroud a bit.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
But the reason we love Dave is we didn't think
he was a man like Dave. When you see him
doing things like he's touring and his drums with his daughter,
any barbecuing thing, people, that's the thing. He is an
amazing guy.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't have I don't have any. I just that's
a hell of an awkward situation.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I get away when I said, I come home after
a bit of a bender.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And you know, I have to apologize.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yours if you've been using binoculars again, where's your press release, Brendence?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
But yeah, that's her.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh there's a lot of pain and work behind this.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know what it's you. Women are just so sensitive
these days. You have a child out of your marriage,
woke the right.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, because there's pink doing this, putting on a press.
I just had a baby. That's not much working towards it.
Don't worry. I'll still barbecue for you next time.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
I'm into I love Corey, I love my towards it Anywayikes, well,
maybe we should play it my hero. Maybe we should
play a food fighter song to start the shot.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
Let's do that?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Was that the nose?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, let's play this time? Am I right? What were
we starting the show with Whitney Houston? I want to
dance with somebody.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
He's done that as well.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's the world going to spin off.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
He's done a vertical dance with somebody.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Why don't we put Learn to Fly on and we
all just pretend this didn't happen, okay, and we just
think of Dave feeding the homeless.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
No, Dave's only up to his responsibilities. He's saying, here's
who I am, Here's what's happened. I think we can
face it.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Action Pack showed today. We've got Grace Tame Jordieus on
the show. I'm looking forward to talking to Grace. I've
been a long time admirer of her. Also, Instagram makes
us return and we can't do anything until we do
the magnificent sevention.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
One Lord Howe, Hamilton Kangaroo types of what.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Lord Howe, that's what Dave Grohl's wife said gm WSFM.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Hello there, it's Jonesy demanded thanks to Chemist Warehouse.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Congratulations to Dave Grohl.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
He's just announced the birth of another little baby, another
little child.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So he's got three kids. Now there's four.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
But he goes on to say, this child was born
outside my marriage, and I plan to be a loving,
supportive parent to her. I love my wife and children.
I'm doing everything I can to regain their trust and
their forgiveness as we all move forward. That's a hell
of a that's a hell I want a hell of
a backstory to say, Okay, we're going to have to
go public with this somehow. What am I going to say?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I imagine Dave comes home from a hard day's work
behind the kit and Jordan goes, how was your day, honey?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And he said, well, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Here's the thing. How do you like the wording of
this press release? Have I got my apostrophes in the
right place. Can you fact check this for me?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Just when you think your day is bad, I always
just think of something like that and I go, you know,
my life's not so bad, but.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Nice Dave?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Where into the magnificent seven? There are seven questions? Can
you go all the way and answer all seven questions correctly?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
If you do that?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And man will say, not all men, but day?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What's about getting questions? Seven? Right? Mike is in Campbelltown.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Hello, Mark, very well? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Lord?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
How did it happen?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Lord?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Howe, Hamilton and Kangaroo are all Australian? What island islands?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Apple has announced the newest version of their iPhone.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Which number are we up to? Now sixt and we're
up to number twenty five? Charges? Let's play lyrical assess?

Speaker 9 (07:20):
Let's do it?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
What song has these lyrics?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
We're going to quote the lyrics and see if you
can get them. I'll do the quoting, shall I?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Are you okay with this?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah? Well, I don't sing it? Do I just say it?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
No? Let's sing it back to me.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, here we go. I feel so untouched and I
want you so much.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You got to do it more conversational.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't want Marke to get the wrong idea. Don't
even think that, all.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Right, having a conversation with Mark, say with Dave Roll,
Mark's Dave Roll.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Jordan Blow.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Okays, I feel so untouched and I want you so
much that I can't resist you. It's not enough to
say that I missed you. I feel so untouched right now,
need you so much. Somehow I can't forget you. Okay, Mark,
do you know what the lyrics are? I mean, I

(08:08):
was trying to get some phrasing to help him. I
feel so untouched and I want you so much.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, let's go to Martin Forestville.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Has my phrasing helped you, Martin?

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'll do it again. I feel so untouched and I
want you.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So much, sending a bit robotic.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well, I'm trying to put the some pacing in without
giving away because you get cranky.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
No, what it is is I feel so untouched, I
want you so much.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
But that's not helping, just saying the words.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It is lyrical, Assassin.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, let's go to nine o'clock and no one might
guess it.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
If that happens, so be it, so be it.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Save rolls off the hook.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
It all happens if my day is bad.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Dave rollers having your worst day, so it doesn't bother me.
Shit podcast for into the Magnificent Seven, we find ourselves
a question.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Three lyrical Sassin, speaking of songs. Your turn, Brendan, to
see if you can convince Martin of Forrestville that he
knows this song.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Martin, I feel so untouched and I want you so
much that I just can't resist you.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
It's not enough to say that I miss you. I
feel so untouched right now. I need you so much.
Somehow I can't forget you.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
Martin.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Do you know the song?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Thanks, Brendan.

Speaker 10 (09:21):
I think it's I'm pretty sure it's untouched by the Veronicas.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Then for a while, I should do a coe lab
with the veronicas.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I've heard you sing? I'm not sure. Question four for you, Martin,
this is multiple choice. What's the What is a group
of ladybugs called a or lady birds? As we call
theministrator Ryan has written a question a loveliness of ladybirds?
Be an attractiveness of ladybirds, or see a comeliness of ladybirds.

(09:56):
I'm going to a loveliness it is? Is that nice?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
A loveliness of telling us is a bit sexy?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is a little bit of a ladybird, ladybird, flyway home.
That's charming. Your house is on fire and your children.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Actually, I was reading I was watching Channel seven news
last time and they got the Stars on there. I
was reading, pissy Stars, You're going to have a cracking
day today and it's going to be a sexy day.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's what it said, A sexy day, A sexy it was.
I'm paraphrasing, but it was something about sexy day.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm having my hair done really on my head.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Which member of the boy band One Direction was the
first to leave the group?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
They branched down. They said, I'm leaving you losers. I'm
taking on.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
And he's gone off to not Much.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, he's gone off to the not Much.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Is that the question? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Which member of One Question left first?

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Malik?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I listen to you go? Martin World Done stuff, Mark
Question six. Yanick Singer Janick Sinner Sorry, Yanick Sinner is
a world number one in which sport Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Cowboy Carter is an album made by which American artist Martin.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Miley Cyrus's dad I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's come to that that what is his name?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
It received zero nominations at the Country Music Awards despite
topping the Country Chug.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yes, so it's a woman. That album has been mega
mega famous. It's her first kind of dabbling in the
country field, but she's been slighted. Linda's in Pimble. Do
you know who Cowboy Carter is?

Speaker 4 (11:31):
I sure do.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It's beyond zero nominations at the Country Music Awards.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, they don't like her doing those parts of music where.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
She said she started. That's what she started in area
where she started in a country as a country performer.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Congratulations to you, Linda, you won the jam pack.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's all coming away, A double pass to John Stevens,
A night at the Barracks, Live Constant in Manning the Spring, an.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Aqua splash party for ten at Cable's.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Wake Park and Aqua Park Penrith. The most fun you're
going to have in and on the water, and the
manic character to choose for the coloring and the pencils, Linda,
anything you'd like to add to this.

Speaker 11 (12:04):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Thank you so much, Linda.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I'm really looking forward to all of that.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's so welcome.

Speaker 12 (12:11):
Oh nice Jonesy and Amanda podcast.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Weak Up Focus.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
We have places to be.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Thumbing through in the chileman at Cat Big Book of
Musical Facts.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
On this day.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
In nineteen seventy six, Ksey and the Sunshine Band released
their hit Shake, Shake, Shake, Shake Shake Shake, Shake your booty,
Shake your Booty.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I was once working on the Andrew Denton Show on
Channel seven, a tonight show, and Casey came in to perform,
and it looked like it had a lobotomy in that
there seemed to be a big incision around the top
of his head.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think that was he had a strange hairline, I'll
give you no.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I think there were stitches.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
He had a bit of a scarlet. Who's that anurl
player that's got the scullet going at that?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
What's a scullet?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
So they shave all the head tea and there's his
hair at the back.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Sort of right opposite of what you've got, you know. Anyway,
I'm just saying it because it's you've got a very.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
Luxury I know, I've got a bit of a DP happening.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You have to explain what DP.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Devon Pats Slight Devon patch. But you're fifty. I'm not
going to get I'm gonna get.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, you have a very sick thattch you do. You
should be grateful.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So you say these hurtful things to me, And.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Then I said it as a joke because actually you're
lucky with your hairline. My mother once said to me,
a man, I can see your hairline standing at the beach.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Anyway, back to Casey, any strange hairline. Shake your Booty
was parod parody three years after it came to the
fore was one of uh, Frank Zappa's.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Not weird ol, not weird ol.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
This is before, this is before weird ow did any
of that? Was Frank Zappa And from the nineteen seventy
nine album it was called Shake your Booty. It spelled
shake as an sh e I k y e rbou
t r thank you, shake you boudy. It didn't stop there.
The album is known as his most controversial to date.

(14:24):
You can listen to Jewish Princess in your own time.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Thank you, I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'd like to get some.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
We don't have any Frank Zapper at the moment because
I'm despairing every out of that. But let's put on
the og he with the strange hairline, Casey and the
Sunshine Band dead and.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm if you've.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Got roller skates, feel free to just have a bit
of a groovenation.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
We're going to be talking about this later on in
the pub test about Anthony Alberze's push to ban social
media for children under the ageable. They're working out fourteen
or sixteen. His preference is sixteen, but there would be
some discussion as when this can kick in and how
be implemented, et cetera, et cetera. He did say parents
want their kids off their phones and on the footy field,
and so do I. He said, there's been some backlash

(15:08):
to that, people going well, sport isn't the only thing.
My child loves making videos. My child's real world is
a computer world, but it's not a social media world
or etc. Sport isn't the answer to everything. But I
do feel that we're saying to our kids, get off
your phone. We've made them too scared to go outside
because we are too scared to let them go outside.

(15:29):
I've been following the story of Kirsty Alsop. She hosts
a TV show in England called a Location location and
selling houses, etc. Where she and her cohort, another guy
called Phil, go around and find houses for people. She's
a big personality. And she took to social media to
say that her son, who was a month short of sixteen,

(15:49):
had gone traveling with a friend of his who was sixteen,
interrailing on trains around Europe, had the time of his life.
Blah blah blah. This opened a can of worms. She
was called a netgent mother. Someone contacted Social Services. She's
been listed with Social Service, she has been called a
negligent mother. All of this kind of stuff to train
because people said he's too young to be doing that,

(16:11):
and well he was one month short of sixteen, And
she said, what's going on? We're telling our kids get
off your phone, but we've everyone so scared to step outside.
Is the world more scary now than it used to be?
I don't think it is, but we're more aware of
the fears. And this is what doctor Carl spoke about
the other day. He said, our brains are tuned to

(16:31):
from our most primitive selves, to difference and fear, so
we lean in when we see it, so we're hopeless
at risk assessment. We climb a ladder, knowing we shouldn't
because that's familiar to us. But we're fearful that our
kids will be kidnapped. Here are the three big things.
Kids are scared that the parents are scared of. One
cars that they'll be hit by can't Two that they'll

(16:52):
be kidnapped. How often does that happen? Three what other
parents think. So, if you give your kids some freedom
like Kirsty has, look at what everyone else has done,
you will be seen as an outlier parent. Helicopter parenting
used to be the extreme. Now that's the norm. And
so we've created this terrible fear in our kids. So

(17:15):
what are they supposed to do with giving them no
alternative to the life they have on their phones, we've
stripped it all from them. They are too fearful. They
can't ride a bike to school, they can't go anywhere
on their own because we have this unnatural fear of
what will happen to them. They are getting no life
experience whatsoever. So we really have to look at what
alternative we give them when we take their phones away.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, this will be a good fighter for the pub test. Yeah,
we'll do that a little bit later on.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Grace Tame. What a woman an advocate, an artist, a comedian,
an ultra marathon runner, an author and hovery casual the
twenty twenty one Australian of the Year. She's about to
hit the road with a new tour, Lightening the Load
with Grace Tame. But before she does all of that,
she's joining us right here, right now. Hello, Grace, Lightning
the Load, Tell me what it means? What are people

(18:04):
going to have and feel and see?

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Well, it was a pretty hefty load that was me
in twenty twenty one out of absolutely nowhere. Well, the
idea behind the tour is to really look back on
the last three and a half years and what that
really bizarre, jarring experience.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
Was to be thrust out of.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
Obscurity and onto a massive platform to talk about a
really fraught subject matter without any kind of run up
and with very little guidebook.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Because you're right, we expected you to be able to
speak at the drop of a hat about the most
traumatic thing that's ever happened to you in your life
and just go, yeah, So tell us about that, Grace,
and this next interview ten minutes later, tell us about that.
Have you come out of this still as yourself or
if you had to put some sort of hard carapace
in place.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
I think that we're always evolving as individuals, and that
certainly had a huge impact on me, and I think
I'm still unpacking that in many ways. You know, it's
interesting considering that the human brain doesn't really stop developing
until about age twenty five. And I stepped onto that
stage to accept that award one month after my twenty

(19:22):
sixth birthday. And I was there to accept the award
for my advocacy around child sexual abuse and my own
lived experience of that. And I had done a lot
of work unpacking it and understanding it and obviously speaking

(19:42):
publicly about it.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
But you can only do so much of.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
That with the neural architecture, with the toolkit that you have,
and you sort of have to wait until you have
a certain amount of time.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
And distance to reflect on some of those things. It
wasn't until I.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Was under this massive spotlight, with all of these eyes
looking at me and all this media scrutiny that I
was actually able to that I had the brain, the
adult brain, to do a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, as wisdom, you know, with age comes wisdom is
there anything that you look back on in the last
three few years do you say, do you think, oh, well,
I could have done that better, Because there was a
moment there where you were just in the news for everything,
you know, from the Side Eye to Scoma to Brittney Higgins.
It was just like you were everywhere.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Oh, look that there were certainly mistakes that I made
along the way, and there will be many more mistakes
that I make. That's inherent in the experience of being
a human being, I think. But yeah, certainly as a
twenty six year old kid, definitely there were mistakes that
I made. I mean, at times, you know, I think
that I was well and probably understandably quite reactive to

(20:55):
that political machine because you know, I was in some mode.
That's that's how you you you have to get through
something like that. You know, the volume and the speed
of the requests and all of the commitments that we
were having to contend with was just it was unnatural

(21:19):
at times, and it's it's thankfully quietened down a bit, but.

Speaker 9 (21:25):
You know, it was it was a steep learning curve.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Oh I bet, what's the strangest thing you've seen, like
in your life?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
In the media.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
What's the strangest thing that you've seen, like fans of yours,
because you've got a lot of fans.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
There is there is a person out in the wilderness.
I don't know if they were in the wilderness, actually,
but there is a person out there who has my
face tattooed on their ass.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
They don't have your ass tattooed on their face. You're
sure you got around the right way. I have got that.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
I've seen photographic evidence on it.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
And is it a good likeness?

Speaker 6 (22:01):
It's the it's the it's the image of my face
giving the side eye.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh sure? And and was this person saying, look, how
much of a supporter of yours? I am?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
I think?

Speaker 9 (22:17):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
To put someone's face on your ass is a.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Real And which way is the side? Which way is
the side I directed?

Speaker 9 (22:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Is I looking at the bump?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Is it looking to the middle or is it looking
off to the actual side.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
I'd have to burrow into my I was just taken
aback by.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
The Did you see it in the flesh or was
it a photograph you saw?

Speaker 9 (22:46):
I have not seen it in the flesh.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
I've not seen my own face on someone's ask cheek
in the flesh.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yet Grace year is still young.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I think you've done extraordinary things in your short twenty
six years and twenty six was Australia. Yeah, I know,
this was that three years ago. Oh my god, it
was three years ago and that must make me fifty.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You'll have to updo your tat time.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Grace.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's so nice to meet you over zoom. Thank you
for joining us. You can get tickets to Lightening the
Load with Grace Tame at Faye dot com dot au
backslash Grace Tame, Grace, thank you, thanks.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
For having me on.

Speaker 13 (23:30):
It's great to chat Nation who were just chatting with
Grace Tame and she was telling us a very surprising
story about someone must be an admirer because what else
would they do it someone who has done this.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
There is there is a person out there who has
my face tattooed on their ass.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
And is it? Is it a good likeness?

Speaker 6 (23:55):
It's the it's the it's the image of my face
giving the.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Side eye, remember the side eye.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Ascomo, we try to ascertain where the sade ay i
is directed.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Is it to the middle of the backside.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Or to the other part of the backside And she
said she had no further details. You'd have to go
back and look at the photographic.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
So we're waiting for Grace to come back to us
on that.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, portrait tattoos are an interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, portrait tattoos are interesting at the best of times.
But a portrait tattoo of somebody famous, Yeah, that's that's
a big call, isn't it. I've often said that that's
what your pencil case is for. You know, if I've
got a tattoo of you know, Marty Rohan.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
When you have a tattoo, but if you have gentlemen
lace Mary.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Person who you're enamored with, isn't always a person you
will be enamored with forever?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, yeah, I do. I do wonder about that. There
was you know, you see people that would get a
tattoo of a you know, like a wife loses a
husband and so I think it's an elaborate portrait tattoo
of that husband.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
On the arm and you think, well, you're going to
get married again.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
One day or maybe not.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Or one time I was with Jimmy Barnes were at
an event and this lady came up and she undid
her top, pulled it down at the back and there
was this incredible portrait tattoo of Barnzy from the barn
Storming album.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It was the.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Album cover and what was the imagery on that?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Just Barnesy's head right, you know, with the mallet, and
it was it was breathtakingly amazing and it was all
over her back proportionately fantastic.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And so this woman.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
The actual size of his head pretty much.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
And Barnzey and I stand in there.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
So the woman has taken a top off, but her
back to us and she's just holding her bosoms as
it were. We did see any of that, and barns
and I said, wow, that's that's extraordinary. And I said,
imagine if you were in like a situation, a boudoir situation,
that would would that be something that would well for Barnsy.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's a question to ask you, Well, I'm looking at myself,
for me, for you for another while.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
If I was in that situation and I'm looking at
is that a giant cold spoon?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
What does it keep me going? I don't know, Or
maybe you just have to not do that particular repertoire anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I don't know that from there, or if you get
a tattoo of someone and then they, you know, disgrace
themselves or do something that you disappressed of and you've
got that tattoo forever.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Conditions applied.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, if I had Line's armstrong on the back of
my neck, call the police.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
You'd have to drop that one from your REPUTA.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Tribal drum is beating four fan for life, getting it tat,
getting a tat at a famous person. Have you seen one?
Have you got one?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Have you got one?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Thirteen WSFM.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
If we got the portrait tattoo of Grace Tame, the
person that's got the side eye, that would be.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'd like to see it. We like to see it.
Sha Notion podcast.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Grace Tame was just on and she told us that
a fan has a portrait tat of her doing side
eye on his slash her bum where he didn't determine
the sex and we didn't determine which way.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
The side eye is directed.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
No, but that was made famous when Scoma was talking
and she gave him the sight.

Speaker 14 (27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, someone said, you know what, I want that image
on my bottom.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
That's been immortalized. The tribal dramas beating fan for life.
What famous person do you have on your person?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Hello, Brad, who have you got?

Speaker 14 (27:27):
It's not it's a friend. Look, i'd call him the Osbourne.
They've both got tattoos of strange things all over them.
But his wife has Angry Anderson on her butt on
a bum. Yeah, from the seventies too, So I reckon
it'd be pretty saggy.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Now and like just a big picture of his bald head.

Speaker 14 (27:44):
What is it? Yeah, yeah, his face and she reckons
that she's flashed out. He made a roase tattoo concerts.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
They're an interesting couple.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Have you seen the tat brat?

Speaker 5 (27:52):
I've seen the top of.

Speaker 14 (27:53):
The head because it's in a pretty it's down low.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
And I had my mate's wife.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I don't want to look at her, so say she's
wearing a bikini. Where is it? Position on the bar?

Speaker 14 (28:02):
Look, not a bikini, tyler person, I wouldn't imagine.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
But it's down low.

Speaker 14 (28:06):
It's me, you know, it's pretty. It's right on the cheek,
down the bottom, but it's not somewhere.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I don't want to look at.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Her heart the size of a hand to say.

Speaker 14 (28:16):
Yeah, it'd be the palm of your hands, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So it's that's a fairly yeah, isn't it. And the
angry is not that big, so it might be to scale.
Thank you, bras how Ango feels he's up there on
the stage performing away.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Someone bends over in front.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Of here and he goes, well, hang on, is that me?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
But not just that. You'd think someone was chucking a
brown I you would think that, you go, well, hang on,
it's me.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
There's so many questions and so little time. Leanne has
joined us.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, Leanne, have you got a tat of someone famous?

Speaker 11 (28:49):
Okay, so it's not me? And I know that this
is one for you, Amanda, because we both love Neil
Finn and Tim Finn. So I went to a Tim
Finn at the Bearafed and you know, I was pretty
close because I'm a bit of a fan. And then
front row is a lady with a back tattoo of

(29:11):
Timfin her dress, the back is cut out of her
dress and she's just front row, front and center timsin
concert with a timsin tattoo and so distracting.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, And I've got questions like what form of Tim Finn?
Is it sort of like an escapade album?

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (29:29):
Maybe a little bit split en dish right, and how
big was yeah, like it would have been from her
lower back up to like the rib cage, like it
was like popping out, Like it was not just his face,
it was like a little bit of his body as well.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Tim Sin.

Speaker 11 (29:49):
I think that she might be known to Tim. I
think she's a bit of a dye had family. I
thought I was a big fan, but then I'm like, okay, you.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Win, Yeah that's right. Yeah, she had an ankle and
on that was set off when she got within fifty meters.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
If we had someone that liked this show that much
that they got a tattoo of us, would we be
flattered or scared?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Speaker 12 (30:12):
Jonesy and Amanda podcast.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, we came into work this morning, early this morning
and a press release was freshly released that we saw.
You may have heard it now in Natasha's News from
Dave Grohl. I've recently become the father of a new
baby daughter born outside of my marriage.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
When when you say it like that, if you say
I recently became a father of a new born baby daughter,
our congratulations.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
And then you go conditions apply? Is the thing is
the thing born outside of my marriage. I planned to
be a loving and supportive parent to her. I love
my wife and my children. Sounds like a politician retiring
to spend more time with my family, and I'm doing
everything I can to regain their trust and their forgiveness.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Can I just say this, though he is a rock star,
I think there should be some sort of caveat for
those do you yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
He said, We're grateful for all the consideration toward all
the children involved as we were fall together.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's very modern.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, but you don't know how his wife and children feel.
It's very modern that they're supposed to just assume this
is okay. I would wonder if I mean, I think
a whole lot of women today going, oh, Dave, not Dave.
Was it a long term affair? Was it a fling?
Was it was the baby a surprise to the woman

(31:36):
as well? Meaning did she want to have a baby?
So many questions and David isn't answering any of them.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
But I've been I noticed that the comments for his Instagram.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'd have too many questions. I've been listening to a
podcasts recently about Boris Becker. Remember Boris Becker Well, famous
tennis planner, the height of his powers and no wrong.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Someone in the war drove he Well, he.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Was married at the time, and he was at a
a club and he went into the broom cupboard, the
janitor cupboard with this woman and somehow he's claiming it
wasn't even full on normal relations.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
What was it.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's sort of saying, somehow the stuff was transferred from
there to there, and she got pregnant. Anyway, how some
conditions apply anyway in the broom cupboard. And then he finds.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Out of ammonia in those things.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Finds out eight months later, Hey I'm about to have
a baby. And he had to do the similar thing.
Tell his wife is what's going on? You know, stay
out of broom cupboards, staut of other people's private parts.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
And I feel bad when I buy another motorbike and
I say that to my wife.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
You know, we've got a new addition to the family.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Honey press release. Think of us at this time.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
If you're having a bad day, just think of Dave
Groll podcast. Let's get on down to the Jonesy the
Man of Arms for the pub test.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Anthony alban Easy's new social media rules do they passed
the well.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
They're proposed rules. He's leading the charge to ban access
for anyone under the age of sixteen from using social media.
He is saying it's a parent's nightmare. There's so many
stories about kids being bullied, kids being abused, terrible self
image issues, all that kind of stuff that we know terrible.
And so it's interesting because you think, well, of course

(33:20):
the age of above sixteen. Studies have shown the difference
of your mental health outcomes if you wait till you're
sixteen to have access to all this. And yet I
was reading yesterday that a number of people are saying
this isn't right. LGBTQI people, people with disabilities, lots of
tech savvy kids are finding their communities online. This is

(33:44):
where their lives are if they're not accepted in the
bigger community or that is trying to find people like them.
This people these they say that this community has saved
their life. So it's throwing the is it throwing the
baby out with the bathwater? That there are huge positives
to social media as well.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I have we've got to do something.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
We do have to do something. This is what the
thing is. But what is that something is? This the something.
How do you feel these new social media rules proposed?
Do they pass the pub test?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Jamdasis, I don't entertainment advertised.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Put on your dance and shoes.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Don't give me your best shot.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
She is the editor of the Daily Oz. M Gillespie
is here with that's entertainment.

Speaker 15 (34:27):
Hello, Well, it's real life succession. This week, the Murdoch
family are in court fighting against each other in honestly
a case that could be another season.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
Of the HBO show that We Love and Miss Succession.

Speaker 15 (34:42):
Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan are going against three
of Rupert Murdoch's other kids, James, Elizabeth, and Prudence, because
Rupert wants to break up this family trust to give
all the power of Fox News and News Corp. After
he dies to his son Lachlan.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
But people for many years have been wondering what the
succession plan would be, and for while it looked like James,
someone said the Elizabeth that Elizabeth is actually the media
genius in the family, but she sepped aside some time ago.
Why is he changing it?

Speaker 5 (35:12):
So?

Speaker 15 (35:12):
Lachlan Murdock has been the boss of Fox News for
five years now. He became CEO in twenty nineteen, and
then last year, Rupert announced he was stepping back from
News Corps as well, and Lachlan was appointed chair.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Of that organization.

Speaker 15 (35:27):
And it's obvious to everyone from the outside looking in
that Lachlan really is Daddy's protege. Lachlan is the Kendall
Roy of this situation, and he's really been groomed over many,
many years to kind of take over the reins. He's
very politically aligned with Rupert. He's super right wing conservative.
His agenda is very much playing out by the minute

(35:50):
on Fox News over in the US, very pro Trump,
very make America great again.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Flipped.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh, Fox News is huge, hugely.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I've had a few dealings with Lachlan.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
He seems like a pretty reasonable guy, rides motorbikes.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He's got to taste.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
He's a great guy. But then he's just guy. But
this is his allegiances.

Speaker 15 (36:09):
I think that's kind of the danger or the prominence
of his power, is that he's a player that kind
of can seem like a reasonable, nice, normal guy, but
at the end of the day, he's willing to make
the tough calls like his dad. But what's interesting about
this legal battle is the four kids that I mentioned
a part of what's called an irrevocable trust. Now, this

(36:29):
was set up in nineteen ninety nine after Rupert Murdock
divorced Anna, who is the mum of.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Lachlan, James and Elizabeth.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (36:37):
It's like a will, but it's a really intensely legally
binding document. It's essentially not meant to be able to
be changed. Once an irrevocable trust is finalized, its.

Speaker 8 (36:47):
Terms cannot be changed.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (36:49):
Now that trust dictates that those four children after Rupert
dies would be given equal voting rights and equal control
of his corporations.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
News And is this because James in recent years James
in recent years has turned more liftish leaning. Yes, that
brought all this on.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
James has come more to the center.

Speaker 15 (37:08):
I think it's just that, you know, Lachlan has become
the most involved in the family business of any of
Rupert Murdock's kids. So it makes sense from you know,
that perspective.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
But to take their voting away, obviously they're not happy.
That's why it's in court exactly so.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
But also with the voting with the media, people lean
into what's negative, so it's all about clickbait so all.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think James stepped away because he was concerned about
how Fox was covering climate change, and that's why he thought,
I kin't align my people.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Don't want to hear about climate change. Don't want to hear.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
That's the thing. That's why we have Fox and that's
why we have other networks.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
If we talked about climate change all the time, all
the time, we would lose listeners because people don't want
to hear.

Speaker 15 (37:48):
About it, well, particularly when it's an election year in
the US. I mean it's hard enough to get Australians
to hear about it, let alone Americans. But when you
factor in the political climate there, I think what seems
like a sort of family fight if you really sort
of look at the nitty gritty of it, If those
voting rights are lost to those other children, and if
Lachlan has full control, if you know, Rupert two point

(38:10):
zero then takes over after his eyes, then you're essentially
looking at a future where Fox News has no hope
of becoming the once more moderate news service.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
From he was. Can I bookend this? If you were inherited,
if you were.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
A Murdoch child, would you want to be the sit
back and cruise kid, or the one that wants to
run the business.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I don't think cruise. They're not like the kids of
property developers. They've been groomed to run back.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I think about James Packer when Kerry died and James
inherited all that and then he said, right, I'm going
to do this, going to make this giant casino empire.
If he just got all the billions of dollars off
his dad put it in the bank, he'd probably be
in the same position.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
Well.

Speaker 15 (38:46):
I think he's a really good example for a local
example of what it would be like to have an
extremely powerful and influential father who is not only rich,
but incredibly ambitious and incredibly passionate about his business projects.
And I think same thing with the Murdoch kids. It's
nice to think that if you were at the kid
of a billionaire yah, you'd fly around on your private

(39:07):
jet and live life large. But the pressure I think
that is put on them and the psychological impacts of that,
I don't think that they can sort of just sit still.
There's that sort of constant fire burning in them to
want to want to please daddy.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And also, as we saw in succession. It was the
idea that they were running a media empire got lost
in the ambition fight. It's a hugely responsible job to
run a network, and that's what we're seeing. As you
said with Lachlan at the Helm, that's Fox's fate ready
to go.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I see me on a sun lounge on a massive
ozone hole making yacht.

Speaker 15 (39:42):
Well, this is going to play out over the next
two weeks. My favorite thing about this is the cases
being heard in Reno, Nevada, which is a famously dead
end party because family trust law in Nevada, in the
state of Nevada is quite loose or favor all towards
what Rupert is trying to achieve. There's also no tax

(40:03):
on any kind of estates, so there it's favorable conditions
and really strict privacy laws that would allow him to
make changes that he wouldn't.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
Necessarily have to disclose to the rest of the trust.

Speaker 15 (40:13):
But I just love imagining this family camped out in Reno,
Nevada for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Can you think it's pretty down? It's pretty down, Runde.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
It is private jets and a tent, well.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Plenty of places park. Thank you.

Speaker 16 (40:26):
M Nation Podcast when God get right now taking.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Windows stick your head on a jel.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
The pub test today, elbows use social media rules?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Do they pass the pub test?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
This is being mooted the Prime Minister or so he
wants to lead the charge to ban access for anyone
under the age of sixteen for social media. The plan
is a bit vague at the moment. How they police it,
what form of social media they mean, do they mean
all of it? Lots of parents are saying, thank you,
somebody help us. Lots of parents are unaware of what
their kids are up to. But we're all seeing the
results of bullying of all kinds of distress that young

(41:13):
children are in competition to how they should look and
how they should be. On the other hand, I saw
a whole lot of comments from people saying people like
kids whore in the LGBTQI community, people who have disabilities,
people who are into who are computer nerds and want
to find their tribe. That's how they're finding their tribe
and that's what's keeping them alive. So what do you
do by banning it? Olbo's new social media rules? Do

(41:36):
they pass the pub test?

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yes, I believe that it should be.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
I'd say make it fourteen, not sixteen.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
But there are a lot.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
Of predators out there who target our young children, and
I want us to allow.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
Our children and grandchildren to mature gradually.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
I think it does pass the pop test.

Speaker 10 (41:56):
Social media can just be so dangerous for children.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Or their bad meant to and everything out there. As
Amanda was saying, you know with people finding people with
special needs finding their safe groups.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
If you're under sixteen, your parents should be joining that
for you anyway, because you don't really know who you're talking.

Speaker 10 (42:13):
To over social media social safety. Maybe their parents should
be joining it, and.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Some of whose works in childcare and see the difference
that social media makes on some of these younger kids,
particularly just like primary school age. I think to argument
for online communities, I've seen with those of online communities
who struggle with actual social skill stay to day. So
definitely all for policies or for the restriction for social
media fat ground.

Speaker 10 (42:37):
Rules right now, because farther it's the social media for
young people. It's like that all they need to be
so good, they need to be rules, and that's good
to serve it right now so we don't have trouble
in the future.

Speaker 11 (42:49):
I'm all for our those propositions. Being a mum, I've
had two little ones growing up and all they did
was sitting on their swing on social media where they.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Quit have been outside the pool.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
Riding their bikes in summertime instead of just been inter.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
And it drove me up the wall.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Fully support ALBO people there that go in the morning,
you come back at night.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
People saying that parents should be doing well. We can't
expect parents to We can't rely on parents otherwise kids
will fall through the crack.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Imagine if we didn't have drink laws so you could
have a kid could have a drink whenever they wanted.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
It was up to the parents. It's pretty much the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, we need help from higher up.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Jam.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Have you ever wondered what did it be like to
survive a plane crash?

Speaker 12 (43:34):
Well?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
In May nineteen seventy, George Burker, air Force officer, took
to the skies in a small aircraft along with thirteen others.
Just minutes after take off, the plane suffered explosive decompression,
sending the aircraft hurtling back to the ground. Everyone except
George died. George was the sole survivor And here we
are over fifty years later, he's still here to tell

(43:56):
his story. Hello, George Burke, how are you today?

Speaker 5 (44:00):
May I guess it's too early to put a ship
in the barbie?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yes, it's never too early to do that.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Joy, you've established all that, So I may what's it like?
What's it like to be in a plane crash?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
What happened that day? Take us back to it?

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Well, I'll start, I'll be quick. A lot of things
happened inside the airplane. We were found out. We were
at twenty nine hundred feet on climb out. The first
thing I noticed was a window cracked, and then a
few seconds later the airplane, at what they called rapid decompression,
all the windows were blown out. I glanced quickly to

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my left and then to my right. We were seated.
I was seated in the front apartment with two of
my NCOs. The props were windmilling, flames were lapping over
and under the engine calling. I unbuckled my seat belt.
With the airplane going down, pitching, yawing, and rolling, I

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stood up and did one hundred and eighty degree turn,
grabbed a hold of structural bulkhead doorway, looking down into
the cockpit. The nose was split open. The top part
of the canopy was flapping. The incipitation with paneled was
back of my boss's lap. It was flying his co pilot.
The left side of the cockpit was completely gone, was open,

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and although I do not consciously remember seeing Captain Robinson,
Robbie our Polett, his head, he was. His head was
off at his shoulders. He was decapitated. I sat back,
downder my seat buck on my seat belt and survival
position as best they could. Put something in my lap,
perhaps a cushion had blown free, and the last conscious

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thought I remember having was my insurance pauses are intact.
I remember the impact was the fake breaking and bending
and shearing metal. I was thrust violently back against the bulkhead.
We had airline type seats and aircraft was an air

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Force twenty nine convert And then when the airplane stopped
moving my trunk, my face was slammed forward on the
table in front of us, and it turned out it
broke my nose. And then I paltered one of the
guys next to me, Let's come on, Fred, Let's get
the hell out of here. I unbookomed, my seat belt,

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stood up three quarter standing position, pivot towards the aisle.
The next thing I felt was large like buckets of
scalding hot water being thrown on me. It was what
people told me later what's called a flashover. Then everything

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went black, and then I don't know how long it
It was only just a minute or two. I opened
my eyes outside the airplane, face down. I didn't I
don't recall doing it, but I told those around me
for many weeks when I was in the ICY. I

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was in the icy at Brook Army Medical Center for
three months, not expected to live in eighteen months in
the hospital when I was still somewhat alert for the
first seven to ten days. One of the things I
told the rescuers and my hospital staff at the burning
is that I dug one way out through a crack
in the fuselage of the airplane. I don't remember doing that.

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I don't know how long I lay there. I rolled
over my back. I looked at my hands or hands,
my hands with jarred black. The skin on my left
hand I was left handed, was hanging like a glove
of softball sized glove of skin. I looked at my shoes,
my lace. My shoes were still on fultunately, or my

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feet would have been burned off. The laces in my
left shoe were gone, which I found rather unusual. Yeah,
I thought I heard somebody crying for help. I rolled
back on my stomach, elbows and knees, called maybe ten
yards to the airplanes and heard enough muffled explosion, hissing noise,

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and another explosion. I felt a great deal of eating
my face and after a few curse words, there's nobody
alive in that sob I did one hundred and eightygree
turn and crawled over what turned crawled back to where
I opened my eyes over turned out what turned out
to be parts of airplane and eucalyptus trees.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
And you were the sole survivor of this. That's extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
How long, un two you were riscued?

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Well, no one knew that it was just literally minutes,
But no one knew that I was found. They found
the Actually the first people on the scene were volunteer
of firefighters from Shellville, California, which is nearby near Nevado.
They found me about forty minutes later down the pasture

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underneath some trees, where I managed to walk. But the
story that came about, which was true a rancher named
John Davio and his wife managed the two thousand aco
cattle ranch in Shellville, and every Monday morning for twenty

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five years, he set out in his four over drive
red pickup truck to check the area for dead and
stray cattle. Monday morning, May fourth, nineteen seventy The weather
was a bad rain, clouds, fog. He cuts short his
trip and come down through a ravine. And when I

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saw him for the first time in nineteen seventy four,
we went back up to the crash site. He told me, Captain,
all the years had been on that ranch, I'd never
been through that ravine before. You set it back down
to the ranch, smelled smoke, what are the neighbors doing? Burning?
And the day like today?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And he found you. That's what it was.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
He found you.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So you're like a survivor out of all that. It
was destiny. It was the destiny that you would be found.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
George. One of the things that people ask is if
you have a near death experience like that, does it
change you? Do you live every day differently because of it?

Speaker 5 (50:42):
That's a good every day's an adventure and every meal
is a banquet.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, And that's something to live y, George, that is
something well, that is just an amazing Shilltory.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Thank you for giving us an insight into that, the.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Fact that today's in Australia September eleven, today where and
we look at what went terrible all those years ago
for you to come out of that, George, thank you
for sharing your story.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Well, thank you for inviting me and I if I
could take a moment. When I was in Vietnam at
sixty seven sixty eight, I met a lot of Australian blokes.
There's any Australian veterans that are still pumping having a
few pints yet, I wish him well, tell them I
wish for me is welcome home. And I'm going to

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thank both of you for inviting me and Moan and
Joeyanne and God bless you all.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
George, You're lovely and thank you, Thank you, thank you
for thinking about us.

Speaker 12 (51:34):
Jonesy and Amanda podcast looks.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Good.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Sure who is our mystery charter?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, one thousand dollars if you can tell us who
they are? Thanks to Eastern Creek Carting. Let's get set.
Where are they?

Speaker 7 (51:52):
We've got out on the track already.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Been great, certain, Well I know this person.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well, what can you tell us? Give us some kind
of clue.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
She's a big car. Look at the game.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
She's got big hair.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
It's quick too, you know, are you shooting in the
radio there?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
What she used to to us? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Well, Taran is in South Pujie Taran? Any idea? Who
a mystery, Carter is?

Speaker 16 (52:29):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I couldn't actually even hear what you're saying, Jack, and
you could repeat it, it was too blurred.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Well, she's got big hair, big hair, and she's hanging
on the raidar haven't listened to what she's listening to
on the radio? That means any idea?

Speaker 5 (52:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I will have to dig further Taran while the person's dead.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
You know what. I'm thinking that maybe that was her
singing on the radio. Do you think it might have been?

Speaker 14 (53:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I knew that.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Oh wow, No, this is just.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
One of the chances she tuned in the radio at
the same time that her song was playing.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Look, she's fast. I wouldn't tell you what if she
was racing against Anthony Colea, she'd be getting some gold.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Katrina's in Bella Vista.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
With that clue, do you know who it is, Katrina.

Speaker 11 (53:23):
I did not see the song, but.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Lady, right, we can't hear.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Hena says that you're in a cart as well.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
A Lee's in Penrith I lead you know who it
might be.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
I'm thinking it's Kasey Donovan.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Congratulations to you, Lisa, you have won one thousand dollars
Amaistry carta is Casey Donovan and very good indeed and
Eastern Creek cutting races an inch off the ground in
their super fast carts and feel like a real race
card driver. Okay, Ryan, that's Parket made Parket Just God, Really,

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we're not doing scallectrics right. It's like Liberachi on the
panel pushing every Buttnig and fine.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Podcast.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
We're getting closer to someone winning twenty thousand dollars. If
you're our favorite goolie of the year, what have.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
We got today?

Speaker 17 (54:30):
You know it gets my goolies as when my wife
decides to mow the lawns and she leaves a strip unmowed.
I mean not like one strip, I mean like just
a skinny strip. You know, it's like shaving your hair
and living like three years.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
That gets my coolie?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Is he talking about the lawn, the landing strip. I'm
not sure I could listen to him all day, though
I do like the accent.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You love the keywik I do what else do we got?

Speaker 18 (54:58):
What gets my goolies is that you walk past somebody
and they're not aware of how much they actually stink.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
And that would be from bo.

Speaker 18 (55:05):
So you know what, be mindful, especially if you're running
around with the hectic job. Just say to somebody, your colleague, maybe, hey, listen, mate,
do I actually stink?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
If they get yeah, you know that that's the coe
to get that David, becon deoda and.

Speaker 18 (55:19):
Spray yourself with it, and trust me, everyone's going.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
To appreciate it, whether or not you're a man or
a woman.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Just do it, please.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I was talking with some after shave and you didn't
like it.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Well, and you don't normally wear after shave.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
And was gifted this after shave for something that I
did charitable works or I know, one of the many
great things I do in the fielding that I don't
talk about until now. Give to me some after shave
and I thought I'll give it a bit of a dab,
and you made a face you didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Well, it didn't smell like you. It smelt nice, but
it's not like you'd been rubbing up against a Vanity
Fair magazine. And because you know how, you get those
little lim free free one the free stuff. So you
did frott it against the free stle.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
You didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
You can do whatever you like, Brendan in my sphere have.

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The bad and good. If you did it doesn't mean
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Also that Jones you demanded, Tetawl and Key Ring coming Away.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Grace Tame was on the show today. She's known for
many things, but we hadn't known this.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
There is a person out there who has my face tattooed.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
On their ass.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Wow is that a compliment?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Trout Drummers Beating for Fan for Life. Leanne from Elwood
said that she was at a crowded house concert and
she saw a woman in front of her at a
back tattoo of Tim Finn.

Speaker 11 (56:47):
I went to a Tim Finn concert at the Bearafad
and you know I was pretty close because I'm a
bit of a fan. And then front row is a
lady with a back tattoo of Tim Fin her dress.
The back is cut up of her dress and she's
just front row, front and center Tim Fin concert with

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a Tim Finn tato very distracting.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Would be more distractive us on a stomach. Why oh
you know, as time goes on, Tim wo.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Right at you two.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
That's enough.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
That's the thing is that as you get older, all
the what a long face.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Mouth got?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Well, ugly Phil is next up with your chance to
win the next trip for two toical colons. We're giving
it away on Friday. It's our last one.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Whoa and we'll be back from six to night for
jam nation.

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Good day to you, well, thank god that's over.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Hoodite, good bite wipe.

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