May 13, 2025 • 5 mins
Celebrity correspondent Cooper Lawrence joins Jonesy & Amanda live from New York with the latest on the trial of Sean 'Diddy' Combs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh yes, the trial of Sean Diddy Combs is in
full swing in New York. These the prosecution style witness
his ex girlfriend Cassandra ventru is taking the stand. Cooper
Lawrence is a New York based broadcaster and entertainment correspondent,
and she joins us now Cooper.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hi, Hey, guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is a crazy day in New York. It's literally
all anybody is talking about. We've been waiting for this
trial for so long and it's really hard to get in.
People are waiting forever just to just get just to
get a sight of somebody walking in and out, you know,
to get to see like who's there?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Is Jlo coming? But no, she isn't.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Today Cassie was on the stand and it was really heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The story is a traumatic, aren't they. But just to
clear this up, it's not he's not on trial because
of his sex life. It's because of illegalities around that.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I yes, sort of.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I mean, listen, they're not judging him for his proclivity.
It's more the fact that the idea of sex trafficking
is that you do something on a regular basis to
you know, you offend lots of people, lots of people sexually,
and that's exactly what's happened that you know, her testimony
is pretty damning.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean the things that she was saying.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
She was describing meeting him at nineteen and by the
time she's twenty two, she's involved with these freak offs
where he is forcing her to be involved with all
these crazy sex parties that go on for days that
she really didn't want to be part of. But if
she said no, he would get angry and he would
beat her.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And it was this she does.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
She very calmly, and she's so it's so heartbreaking to
listen to her because she's very believable and you just
see the trauma that she's been through as she's telling
you the story. But for so many years he forced her.
If she said no, he beat her. So she had
the cycle of abuse where she had sexual abuse and
she had physical abuse, and she was to start trying
(01:59):
to have a music career, and she was really tied
to him for eleven years. He basically ran her life
and she was under a just constant trauma.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And what about the baby oil has been much made
about the baby Ole.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No person needs that much baby.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oil, but laced with drugs. So is that is that real?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Is this a thing?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Is it seriously happening? Yeah, she talked about that as well.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
She said that he wanted her to douse herself with
baby oil and to continue to put it on her.
So his baby oil the reason why he had a
thousand bottles. It wasn't some fetish she had just for
baby oil, although maybe that was part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It was lace.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Someone were lace with GHB, some relays with the hypnol,
which are date rape drugs basically, so it forced people
that came into his world to comply. You know, you
can't force someone to take a drug. I guess you
can put something in somebody's drink, but if you just say,
put baby oil on.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
They wouldn't suspect that there's drugs and baby oil.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I mean, it's maniacal, but that's exactly what he did.
And she said, you know, after a while, she was
just it was so hard for her that she was
ready for the drugs and she wanted them just so
she can zone out and not be there for these
horrible experiences that he put her through.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You said that people are watching to see which celebrities
will turn up. A number of celebrity names have been mentioned,
Mike Myers, Jamie Foxx. They're not implicated necessarily in any
wrongdoing at this stage, are they. They may just have
been present at the parties.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Some might have been president at the parties.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But I think the reason why, certainly the defense is
throwing some names around because some of these people have,
like I think Michael B. Jordan dated Cassie for a while,
so some of these people have relationships with her, and
they're hoping that they can have them on the stand
to impeach her testimony. Remember, their defense is that she
was violent too, which.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is such a preposit.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
When you see little tiny Cassie and you know that
Sean did he Combs at the time, was in his thirties,
and he was powerful and he was tough and he
was strong, it's hard to believe that she was the
one that was the perpetrator. But that is how they're
going to portray her. They're going to try to portray
her that way.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's been much made about his gray hair, right, it's
this bizarre strategy, Jonesy. It's such a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So he let his hair go gray, and he let
his beard go gray, and he's dressing like a sitcom dad.
He's not wearing Gucci, he's not wearing Forsachi. He's wearing
a sweater, like a very nice clean sweater pulled over
a button down, and his pants are too big, and
he's trying to play to the jury like I'm like
your dad, I'm an old guy over here. I couldn't
(04:32):
have done these horrible things I'm being accused of. It's
a strategy that Weinstein did and now it's something that
Comb's is also doing. And it's just it's such an
obvious strategy because we all know what Sean Diddy Combs
looks like, but he's using this.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Gray hair have worked for Cosby for me? Well, Cooper,
that's great, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean this is a very difficult trial to watch.
Of all the all the celebrity trials that have gone down,
this one is just absolutely heartbreaking because everyone's story is traumatic.
It's not like it's just violence and you just could
sort of put that in like another category. This is
real trauma that's being described on and it's not just Cassie,
it's other witnesses that are coming.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Forward, the start of a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
All right, Well, thank you. We'll probably cross back with
you further down the trial. Thank you so much, Cassie,
thank you for having me. Thanks cass Thanks Cooper, Cooper.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Lawrence said, thank you Cooper. Yes, and thanks Cassie.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Thanks Cooper.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Take it easy.
Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh yes, the trial of Sean Diddy Combs is in
full swing in New York. These the prosecution style witness
his ex girlfriend Cassandra ventru is taking the stand. Cooper
Lawrence is a New York based broadcaster and entertainment correspondent,
and she joins us now Cooper.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hi, Hey, guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is a crazy day in New York. It's literally
all anybody is talking about. We've been waiting for this
trial for so long and it's really hard to get in.
People are waiting forever just to just get just to
get a sight of somebody walking in and out, you know,
to get to see like who's there?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Is Jlo coming? But no, she isn't.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Today Cassie was on the stand and it was really heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The story is a traumatic, aren't they. But just to
clear this up, it's not he's not on trial because
of his sex life. It's because of illegalities around that.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I yes, sort of.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I mean, listen, they're not judging him for his proclivity.
It's more the fact that the idea of sex trafficking
is that you do something on a regular basis to
you know, you offend lots of people, lots of people sexually,
and that's exactly what's happened that you know, her testimony
is pretty damning.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean the things that she was saying.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
She was describing meeting him at nineteen and by the
time she's twenty two, she's involved with these freak offs
where he is forcing her to be involved with all
these crazy sex parties that go on for days that
she really didn't want to be part of. But if
she said no, he would get angry and he would
beat her.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And it was this she does.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
She very calmly, and she's so it's so heartbreaking to
listen to her because she's very believable and you just
see the trauma that she's been through as she's telling
you the story. But for so many years he forced her.
If she said no, he beat her. So she had
the cycle of abuse where she had sexual abuse and
she had physical abuse, and she was to start trying
(01:59):
to have a music career, and she was really tied
to him for eleven years. He basically ran her life
and she was under a just constant trauma.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And what about the baby oil has been much made
about the baby Ole.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No person needs that much baby.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oil, but laced with drugs. So is that is that real?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Is this a thing?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Is it seriously happening? Yeah, she talked about that as well.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
She said that he wanted her to douse herself with
baby oil and to continue to put it on her.
So his baby oil the reason why he had a
thousand bottles. It wasn't some fetish she had just for
baby oil, although maybe that was part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It was lace.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Someone were lace with GHB, some relays with the hypnol,
which are date rape drugs basically, so it forced people
that came into his world to comply. You know, you
can't force someone to take a drug. I guess you
can put something in somebody's drink, but if you just say,
put baby oil on.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
They wouldn't suspect that there's drugs and baby oil.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I mean, it's maniacal, but that's exactly what he did.
And she said, you know, after a while, she was
just it was so hard for her that she was
ready for the drugs and she wanted them just so
she can zone out and not be there for these
horrible experiences that he put her through.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You said that people are watching to see which celebrities
will turn up. A number of celebrity names have been mentioned,
Mike Myers, Jamie Foxx. They're not implicated necessarily in any
wrongdoing at this stage, are they. They may just have
been present at the parties.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Some might have been president at the parties.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But I think the reason why, certainly the defense is
throwing some names around because some of these people have,
like I think Michael B. Jordan dated Cassie for a while,
so some of these people have relationships with her, and
they're hoping that they can have them on the stand
to impeach her testimony. Remember, their defense is that she
was violent too, which.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is such a preposit.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
When you see little tiny Cassie and you know that
Sean did he Combs at the time, was in his thirties,
and he was powerful and he was tough and he
was strong, it's hard to believe that she was the
one that was the perpetrator. But that is how they're
going to portray her. They're going to try to portray
her that way.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's been much made about his gray hair, right, it's
this bizarre strategy, Jonesy. It's such a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So he let his hair go gray, and he let
his beard go gray, and he's dressing like a sitcom dad.
He's not wearing Gucci, he's not wearing Forsachi. He's wearing
a sweater, like a very nice clean sweater pulled over
a button down, and his pants are too big, and
he's trying to play to the jury like I'm like
your dad, I'm an old guy over here. I couldn't
(04:32):
have done these horrible things I'm being accused of. It's
a strategy that Weinstein did and now it's something that
Comb's is also doing. And it's just it's such an
obvious strategy because we all know what Sean Diddy Combs
looks like, but he's using this.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Gray hair have worked for Cosby for me? Well, Cooper,
that's great, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean this is a very difficult trial to watch.
Of all the all the celebrity trials that have gone down,
this one is just absolutely heartbreaking because everyone's story is traumatic.
It's not like it's just violence and you just could
sort of put that in like another category. This is
real trauma that's being described on and it's not just Cassie,
it's other witnesses that are coming.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Forward, the start of a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
All right, Well, thank you. We'll probably cross back with
you further down the trial. Thank you so much, Cassie,
thank you for having me. Thanks cass Thanks Cooper, Cooper.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Lawrence said, thank you Cooper. Yes, and thanks Cassie.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Thanks Cooper.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Take it easy.
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