August 4, 2024 • 4 mins
Em Gillespie joins Jonesy with the latest in entertainment.Â
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I don't entertainment, put on your dance and shit, don't
give me your best shut from the David oz M Billespie.
I know your devo that you miss Larry M because
you're a huge fan. Unfortunately, Larry, who's filling in for
Amanda who's on assignment in Africa, had to leave. He's
got to do his TV he's got to do a
(00:21):
TV show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And here I am, Emma Gillespie filling in for Larry
M to filling in for Amanda Keller, and I couldn't
be more honored. It's a true joy. And I wanted
to talk to you today about another icon, Vince Vaughan.
Love Vince Vaughan. He's got a new show coming out
actually to Apple TV Plus called Bad Monkey. But he's
done a few interviews where he's spoken about the fact
that he reckons Hollywood executives are overthinking it and not
(00:44):
wanting to take risks anymore on our rated comedies because
they're scared of losing their job. He did an interview
on the YouTube channel Hot Ones. It's like they eat
hot chicken wings with lots of hot sauce and against
spicy or and spicier. He absolutely nailed at the Man
loves Hot Sauce. But this is what you had to
say about comedies.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
People in charge don't want to get fired more so
than they're looking to do something great. So they want
to kind of, you know, follow a set of rules
that somehow like gets set in stone that don't really translate.
But as long as they follow them, they're not going
to lose their job. People want to laugh, people want
to look at stuff that feels a little bit like
(01:23):
it's you know, dangerous or pushing the envelope.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So he's basically suggesting that the executives are overthinking it
because they've subscribed to this fundamentally flawed formula that movies
have to be made off the back of a pre
existing character or pre existing ip. So we see this
with Marvel superhero movies, you know, your lego movies, Barbie movie.
He gave an example of the Battleship movie in twenty twelve,
(01:46):
like a movie made off a board game, and that
essentially like, you know, we're all so stuck in that
formula that no one wants to take risks on great
comedy anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And you look at the wedding crashes. Yes, that movie
I watched that time and time again and it makes
me laugh. But Vince always has the same sort of trope,
doesn't he. It starts off as the dry, sarcastic sort
of hero, then he lets the team down, and then.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
He gets and then he emerges with heart and he gets.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
His retribution was the same thing. It was all that.
But having said that, I'm a huge fan of him.
I'd rather him in a comedic role, and I've seen
him in serious stuff because there's a real malevolence to
him as well. And it brings that because he's in
Psycho a.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
True detective second season and he is actually a good
serious actor, better than I think a lot of people
were expected.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You ever see him in the Breakup?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That one with Breakup is one of my favorite movies.
My mum loves that movie.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And I don't want to go too much on the
spoiler alert, but the end of it, yeah, it's like
you know somebody that I used to know. That that
just the end of that movie, just when they see
each other after all they've been through and they go, hey,
how you being and you don't know if they're back together?
You know, yeah, that's your life.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well it's the kind of journey of exploring these characters
and perspectives that he sort of speaks about through in
these inter You did another one with The New York
Times where he said that you know that the comedians
feel things out on the set, they change the lines,
they make each other laugh, that you know it's about
studios taking risks on young creators, and that now we've
got these big committees of people making decisions, micromanaging. And
(03:17):
he said that, you know, people want to take the
book off the shelf and they should be allowed to
choose what they read. And part of the journey is
exploring those things. And now we've gone too far towards
one person deciding they want to be the judge and jury.
He gave the example of the Breakfast Club. You know
that there's all these characters that transform and by the
end you realize everyone is a complete human being. I think, yeah,
(03:37):
it's a really interesting perspective. I sort of thought when
I saw the headlines, oh, you know, he's going to
come out and say, oh, it's wokeness gone mad, there's
no creativity anymore because it's two PC. But really he's
sort of saying that everyone is so money obsessed that
Hollywood is just so about the box office dollar of the.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Marvel mood and the pie. The pie is getting smaller. Yeah,
everyone talking, you know TV. At the moment, one's talking
about TV. But the problem is this TV. He's got
too many, too much competition. It's like cabs when cabs
rule the earth. Yeah, and they were just sitting high
on the hog and the neuber came along and they went,
hang on a minute. Yeah, that's what happens radio. We
went through this a long time ago. TV is going
(04:14):
what radio went through, probably about twenty years ago. And
it's just that and that's the reality. But people are
always going to want to be entertained. But do you
need a committee to tell someone how to be entertained?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, And people are always gonna want different things. You
can't just make a big homogeneous pie of Okay, one
hundred percent of movies that are made are going to
be superhero movies because that's not what one hundred percent
of the audience wants.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Although I'd like to see a movie about homogeneous pie.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Great movie.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'll be there, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
M thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Sorry you've missed down.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
On your Joseph Larry.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'll be okay in time.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I understand. We just had word in. Larry is now
entering into Red Foot Okay. He made it. He's gonna
be okay.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
He's crossover
I don't entertainment, put on your dance and shit, don't
give me your best shut from the David oz M Billespie.
I know your devo that you miss Larry M because
you're a huge fan. Unfortunately, Larry, who's filling in for
Amanda who's on assignment in Africa, had to leave. He's
got to do his TV he's got to do a
(00:21):
TV show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And here I am, Emma Gillespie filling in for Larry
M to filling in for Amanda Keller, and I couldn't
be more honored. It's a true joy. And I wanted
to talk to you today about another icon, Vince Vaughan.
Love Vince Vaughan. He's got a new show coming out
actually to Apple TV Plus called Bad Monkey. But he's
done a few interviews where he's spoken about the fact
that he reckons Hollywood executives are overthinking it and not
(00:44):
wanting to take risks anymore on our rated comedies because
they're scared of losing their job. He did an interview
on the YouTube channel Hot Ones. It's like they eat
hot chicken wings with lots of hot sauce and against
spicy or and spicier. He absolutely nailed at the Man
loves Hot Sauce. But this is what you had to
say about comedies.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
People in charge don't want to get fired more so
than they're looking to do something great. So they want
to kind of, you know, follow a set of rules
that somehow like gets set in stone that don't really translate.
But as long as they follow them, they're not going
to lose their job. People want to laugh, people want
to look at stuff that feels a little bit like
(01:23):
it's you know, dangerous or pushing the envelope.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So he's basically suggesting that the executives are overthinking it
because they've subscribed to this fundamentally flawed formula that movies
have to be made off the back of a pre
existing character or pre existing ip. So we see this
with Marvel superhero movies, you know, your lego movies, Barbie movie.
He gave an example of the Battleship movie in twenty twelve,
(01:46):
like a movie made off a board game, and that
essentially like, you know, we're all so stuck in that
formula that no one wants to take risks on great
comedy anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And you look at the wedding crashes. Yes, that movie
I watched that time and time again and it makes
me laugh. But Vince always has the same sort of trope,
doesn't he. It starts off as the dry, sarcastic sort
of hero, then he lets the team down, and then.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
He gets and then he emerges with heart and he gets.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
His retribution was the same thing. It was all that.
But having said that, I'm a huge fan of him.
I'd rather him in a comedic role, and I've seen
him in serious stuff because there's a real malevolence to
him as well. And it brings that because he's in
Psycho a.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
True detective second season and he is actually a good
serious actor, better than I think a lot of people
were expected.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You ever see him in the Breakup?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That one with Breakup is one of my favorite movies.
My mum loves that movie.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And I don't want to go too much on the
spoiler alert, but the end of it, yeah, it's like
you know somebody that I used to know. That that
just the end of that movie, just when they see
each other after all they've been through and they go, hey,
how you being and you don't know if they're back together?
You know, yeah, that's your life.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well it's the kind of journey of exploring these characters
and perspectives that he sort of speaks about through in
these inter You did another one with The New York
Times where he said that you know that the comedians
feel things out on the set, they change the lines,
they make each other laugh, that you know it's about
studios taking risks on young creators, and that now we've
got these big committees of people making decisions, micromanaging. And
(03:17):
he said that, you know, people want to take the
book off the shelf and they should be allowed to
choose what they read. And part of the journey is
exploring those things. And now we've gone too far towards
one person deciding they want to be the judge and jury.
He gave the example of the Breakfast Club. You know
that there's all these characters that transform and by the
end you realize everyone is a complete human being. I think, yeah,
(03:37):
it's a really interesting perspective. I sort of thought when
I saw the headlines, oh, you know, he's going to
come out and say, oh, it's wokeness gone mad, there's
no creativity anymore because it's two PC. But really he's
sort of saying that everyone is so money obsessed that
Hollywood is just so about the box office dollar of the.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Marvel mood and the pie. The pie is getting smaller. Yeah,
everyone talking, you know TV. At the moment, one's talking
about TV. But the problem is this TV. He's got
too many, too much competition. It's like cabs when cabs
rule the earth. Yeah, and they were just sitting high
on the hog and the neuber came along and they went,
hang on a minute. Yeah, that's what happens radio. We
went through this a long time ago. TV is going
(04:14):
what radio went through, probably about twenty years ago. And
it's just that and that's the reality. But people are
always going to want to be entertained. But do you
need a committee to tell someone how to be entertained?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, And people are always gonna want different things. You
can't just make a big homogeneous pie of Okay, one
hundred percent of movies that are made are going to
be superhero movies because that's not what one hundred percent
of the audience wants.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Although I'd like to see a movie about homogeneous pie.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Great movie.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'll be there, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
M thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Sorry you've missed down.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
On your Joseph Larry.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'll be okay in time.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I understand. We just had word in. Larry is now
entering into Red Foot Okay. He made it. He's gonna
be okay.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
He's crossover
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