August 20, 2023 • 23 mins
Weddings are expensive and can pull apart the very people they’re meant to bring together. Nicole has brought her long-term partner and new fiancé Matt to Judge Gina. She’s demanding they hire a wedding planner for their upcoming ceremony. Nicole wants a perfect day, but Matt wants to save money.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Weddings can create drama between the very people they're supposed
to be uniting for life. If you have an argument
with your fiance that you once settled, once and for all,
you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and
my decision is final. You better be ready to hear
my ruling. A marriage is the union of two equals
(00:38):
in love. But what happens when the planning of the
wedding is unbalanced? Partners in love are not always partners
in planning. Nicole has brought her fiance matt to Judge Gina,
demanding that they hire a wedding planner for their upcoming nuptials.
Nicole is seeking three thousand dollars to hire a wedding
planner for their big day.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
My name is Nicole Shooter and I have come to
Judge Gina today because I want a wedding planner. My fiance, Matthew,
does not want a wedding planner. He is DIY saves
money wherever he can.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I want to spend the money elsewhere, like a honeymoon.
We currently don't have a budget for a honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I like to get professional to do it and get
it done and get it done properly.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
My relationship with Ni Carl has been a long one.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
We were dating for thirteen fourteen years before we got engaged.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I met Matthew when I was in year ten, Matthew
was in year eleven. He walked into the room and
it was kind of love at first sight, and we.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Are having a relatively short engagement, which is what we
both want.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want a wedding planner because I want to take
the stress off myself, a mental load. I want to
have someone there to support us on this journey. I've
never planned a wedding before, so I just need that
extra support.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I'm hoping the outcome today is that Gina realizes we
don't need a wedding planner.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
You know, were mostly of the process.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We've done most of the organizing ourselves.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So hopefully the outcomes in my favorite that we don't
need a wedding plan.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Court is now in session. Please rise for Judge Gina.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So, Nicole and Matt you're here today, and Nicole, you
have a claim against matt who is your fiance. Is
that correct?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Okay? And you're wanting to be compensated one three hundred
and thirty three dollars for three and a half weeks
off work prior to your wedding? Is that right?
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay? So I'm going to start with you, Nicole, just
because you are the applicant. How did you meet and
how did your relationship with Matt begin?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
So? We met back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I was in year ten and I at that time
decided that I wanted to be a sport teacher.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I thought I wanted to be a sports teacher.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Stick with the facts, please, okay?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Im him in year ten? Matthew was in year eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, in two thousand and eight. Correct, you met then?
And when did you start dating?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Four weeks later?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Okay? And when did you get engaged?
Speaker 6 (03:19):
October?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
October twenty two. And are you living together?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yes, we are?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And when did you move in together?
Speaker 8 (03:27):
What?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Three years ago? Can we build a house? Dreams ago?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Yeah? Three? Three? Four years ago?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay? So you dated for twelve years before you moved
in together.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Correct. We did long distance for four and a half
of those years.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So, Matt you proposed Nicole in October last year. Tell
me about the proposal. How did you do that? Did
you buy a ring? First of all?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, So I bought him in Tasmania about a month
before I met Nicolo over in La over there doing
a bit of study for a little while, and I
come over for a month.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
We went to Vegas for five days.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That could have saved you a lot of money. You know,
you could have just got married there.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I know we're stupid.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
We should off.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, could have saved you a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But go on.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
We went to what do we do?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
We went to a circus, the Michael Jackson Show that
finished at around eleven thirty or something at night, and
I knew at midnight the Bellagio Hotel fountain fire works
go off at midnight. So then I knew that if
I could get there before midnight when the water fountains
all went off, that would be a pretty good moment.
So it started going off, and then I got down
(04:39):
on one knee. I think Nicole turned around and noticed
that I wasn't standing up and looked down. She looked shocked. Yeah,
so she didn't. I don't think she was taking it
seriously for a second. She thought it was all a
joke because I joke around.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Fair bit and then what did you say.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Will you marry me? I didn't say a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And she obviously said yes because now you're planning your wedding.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Yeah, I said are you serious about twenty five? Fifty
times before I actually said right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So he wasn't convincing his response to the first twenty
five questions.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I sometimes he would come home and like pretend he
was going to do it and just like joke. So
I was like, oh my god, it's actually like.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You're amazing, Matt. That's a very mean thing.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I saw the ring and I was just like, oh
my god, is this a joke?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I just want to know what do you love
about each other? Nicole? Three words to describe Matt? What
do you love about Matt?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
His humor, he's kind and yeah, he's just he's just
cuddly and he's like a big teddy there cudly, he's
like a teddy bears.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And what about you? Matt? Three words to describe Nicole?
Why you love her?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
She follows a dreams. Yeah, I've never had the answer.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's there, you go. You never be married first time?
For everything?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
We get along, We actually do get along with.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, what other word would you use? To describe her word. Yeah, passionate, passionate. Okay,
there you go. So you love each other and this
is going to be a beautiful thing, and you put
money aside between the two of you for this wedding.
Who's paying? You're saving for the wedding? Now? Trying to
both and are you both working?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yes, we're both working?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, Nicole? What do you do?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
So I'm a hairdresser and a dance teacher.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And what about you, Matt?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I manage an aquatic center.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And do you sort of earn the same income?
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Oh, you earn a bit more than me, Yeah, a
little bit, a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Where are you getting married in Pasmania? All right? And
how many guests? Eighty two, one hundred eighty two, one
hundred guests? And how far off is your wedding?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
January twenty twenty?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What's next year?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
What's your budget for the wedding?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
There was never really a budget. There's just a figure
that it's come to and then that's how budget.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
What's it per head?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Are we charging people per head?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Are you charging possibly? Yeah, you're going to charge your
guests to come to your wedding, But.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
We don't want gifts or nothing, because we don't need anything.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You want to charge them? How much are you going
to charge them per head?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
About fifty dollars ahead?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, it's a new thing.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
It's in thing that is the normal thing in tasma.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah, absolutely, in gifts and stuff. Now you just charge
it per head at the wedding because everything's so goddamn.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Expensive, So you're thinking about fifty works ahead, okay, just.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
To cover a little portion. I mean we're putting on everything, food, wine.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Drink, fifty dollars ahead. It's only going to be five grand.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah yeah, but that covers the food, so it's just.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like a token contribution.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Yeah, okay, this is a gift in that, like, we
don't need gifts that we'd rather have a little bit
of money come off the wedding because we're obviously trying
to save it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Have you had a quote from a wedding planner or coordinate?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And what do they want to charge you?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Three thousand dollars okay?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, So tell me what you've organized so far. Have
you got your photographer yes? And you've got your.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Music yes, music's the most important.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And you've got your flowers no? So you need flowers.
Have you got your celebrant?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What is there left to do now that a wedding
planner would do.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
The color, the style?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, no, you're going to pick the color. You're going
to pick the style. Have you got bridesmaids?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yes, I've got to do brides I've got seven, stupid
I do.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But that's just one dress and you buy seven of them.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
I don't think I really want to do that. I
think we want to do different styles because we've got
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, but your wedding plan is not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
No, she's not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Have you got cars?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
No, we don't have cars.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So you need flowers, a celebrant and cars.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
We don't need cars.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
We need signs, signings like welcome to the wedding, welcome
to the bar.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And Matt, what do you say about a wedding planner.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I say it's getting to the point where it's
getting a little bit expensive and we need to probably
have the hard conversation and where to cut things.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And for me, this is the first to go.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
All right. What about the question of who should organize
the wedding? Matt, you say that Nicole should do it
not a wedding planner.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
No, no, no, no, we should both do it. But if
we're both equally doing it, you don't need a.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wedding planner, Okay, But are you equally doing it? Is
the question.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'd say, I work more, she's got more time.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, that's not what I'm asked on the laptop. No,
I'm asking you, are you equally doing it? Your answer
is no, In.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Terms of what free time we have, i'd say, ye.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No, that's not what I asked you, because then you're
just pardoning off some of them, some of the responsibility
to someone else because you think that she's got the
time to do it. So my question to you is,
are you sharing the risk on's ability of the wedding
planning equally.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
The stuff I'm allowed to do?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yes, what does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I don't think there'd be there'd be no trust there
to let me pick flowers or decorations, colors, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right like that, But it's not something you would discuss together. Go, oh,
the bridesmaids, maybe they can wear green? What color all
that sort of thing? What colors are you referring to?
Like the decor in the venue.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, whatever decorations.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Did you choose the venue together?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Ye? Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And what about all the other plans that you have
in your life, buying a car, buying a house, did
you do all those things together together?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah? We just we designed and built our house together.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, Okay? So what do you want Matt to do?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Support me?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Have done?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And I wanted to organize it, organize what?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
There's nothing to organize as you lock.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Them in, like you know when I like doing the research,
but then as for actually like making a decision, a
final decision and then have like having the back and
forth email. Can you get me a quote? Can you
get this? How much do you call?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you sharing this information with Matt?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay? And Matt, do you feel like you've been left
out of the loop at all in relation to these decisions?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
No, I feel like we've been doing it pretty well
and then and then all of a sudden, Oh, there's
a third party we have to pay to do the
two percenters?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, thanks Matt. So I'm not convinced that you equally
sharing the responsibility of this wedding planning. So, Nicole, what
sort of thing have you done so far? And what
sort of thing has Matt contributed so far. I want
to know a breakdown, all.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Right, So I've done the budget plan. So I've done
a detailed budget.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I contacted vendor caterers. Yeah, okay, not a vendor like
zin you're going to have a caravan out the front
and everyone can queue up and get a sevlaki. Not
that sort of vendor. We're kind of going to do
wood five semi okay. So this is a casual kickup
with heels affair.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's a casual cocktails.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's a casual, well planned out wedding. It's very detailed,
but casual.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, what's the dress code. Let's get the vibe here.
What's the dress code?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
The dress code is like a little bit beach here,
a little bit cocktailly, but like have a good.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Time, like bikinis with a high heel. No, is that
the sort of thing?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Absolutely not cover up?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
What's a beach in a cocktail? I have been to
the beach in High Hills, by the way, just for
the record.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
It's cut. It's like in this estate where there's the
beach down the road and it's a little bit rustick
and a bit edgy, and it's got like a Byrony
Bay kind of vibe.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And will the ceremony happen at the venue or do
guests have to move?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah, there's an open air chapel at the venue where
we will be getting having a ceremony.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So you'll have this ceremony there and then everybody kicks
on and has pizzas on the beach with high heels
and a cocktail dress.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
On at the venue and not in a bikini. Absolutely
not right?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, So you've got musicians, photographers of your organized music music.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I've been doing mood board after mood board, getting colors, designs,
making sure everything matches in what's and.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're enjoying that? Is that something that you in your element?
Do you feel that you're in your element doing this?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I enjoy the creative side and I love doing colors
and pitying and this and that.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So, you know, I think in most situations there's got
to be a driver. Would you agree with that? Someone's
got to sort of, you know, manage it. So even
if you did get a wedding plan, someone would have
to instruct her or him. Yes, would you agree with that? Yes?
Who would do that? Would you do that? Naturally?
Speaker 8 (13:51):
Nicole I'm happy to instruct, but as for like actually
like making the decision, having that support someone that is necessary.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, So if you were to instruct a wedding planner,
you would tell them who the vendors were, the florist,
the flowers, you like, what music, the type of photographer.
So you would be actually giving them the information.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Giving them the vibe and the tone.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Sounds a little bit like the horse might have bolted.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Here, no, no, because she feels in the gaps.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
And then she's going to say no, that's a stupid idea,
or that's a good idea, or you're missing this, or
that's not going to work, or that's not going to gel.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And so you want some professional feedback.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
I want the professional. I can't hear I'm a professional
at that, and someone comes to me because I'm the professional.
That's what I'm there for. I'm planning an event, or
we're planning an event for eighty two hundred people. I
need the professional to lead the way because I've never
done it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So you're about a third of the way, though it
sounds like to me when you're planning already.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Two thirds No. On the day stuff is probably what
you're concerned about.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Yeah, it's also too on the day, Like she comes
and runs the day and sets up and does everything.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
So I can just relax and I don't have to
chase up the people.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But don't you have isn't there someone at the venue
who does that?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah? No, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, you're not going to do that, Matt. So you're
the groom. You've got to be part of the wedding.
Is there not someone? Is there not a matre d
or a manager at the venue. I don't know if
you know this, but I am actually a marriage celebrant
and I do many weddings. I've done about eighty weddings
since twenty eighteen, and so I know how these things work.
(15:38):
So usually we would have someone at a venue who
coordinates things so that they don't need to worry about it.
You're not getting that support from the venue.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I don't think we are, because I emailed and there's
she was very blasse, and I was like, she's not,
Like she's not the profession here, Like at least if
I get the wedding planner, I know that she's going
to set it up. She's going to be down at
the Sarah money and she's going to know what I
actually want or we want, or I shouldn't say I
what we want, and she's going to make sure it
goes to a planned The wedding people there just for themselves.
(16:10):
They're getting their money for their venue, and they're like.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
WHOA, all right? So currently your claim is that you've
spent on one hundred and thirty three hours ye preparing
this absolutely? Yeah today over what period of time? Is
it like eight hour days or.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
A bit excess in October?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hang on, Matt, I'll get to you, Nicole. I just
want to hear, and then I'm going to get Matt's feedback.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Been October since we got engaged. The next day, I
was on the laptop looking at a venue.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so have you been sort of keeping a running
tally here of how many hours? How did you work
that out?
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
I'm averaging at least an hour a day on wedding stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
One hour a day, yep, whether it's a.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, actually pretty much is my lunch Breakay.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Wouldn't you spend an hour a day talking to a
wedding plan or I mean, she's not just going to
miraculously come up with these or the flowers or you're
gonna have to talk to it.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, I have to chat to it obviously. Yeah, we'd
have to have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm going to come over to you, Matt now, So
what do you say about the cost? Why have you
said no? Why are you leaving all this work up
to Nicole?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, half the value in a wedding planner has we've
done ourselves. That's why I think we've done three quarters
of the work.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But that's because you said no in the first place.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
No, it this was an afterthought, right, this was down the.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Journey, right that you've talked about getting a wedding planner.
I don't believe that. Somehow, I can't imagine that it
would just be a revelation. Nichole's woken up one morning gone,
oh bloody hell, this is too hard. I should have
had a wedding plan And Matt, what do you think?
And you said no.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
She had a breakdown after a couple of months of
doing this, right after booking a venue.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I can see her laughing. Somehow, I don't think it
was a breakdown, but go on, oh.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
No, it was absolutely breaking. I said, there's no walking
down this eye if I don't get a wedding planner.
I need one.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So you say it was halfway through Nichole's had a
bit of a break down, so she's thought, okay, we
should get a wedding planner, and you said, well, you've
done half or three quarters of the work. There's no
point now we're trying to keep the costs down. Is
that would that be fair to say?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay? So I want to know out of the photographer,
the music, the flowers, the venue, what have you done?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I picked and spoke to the photographer. Yeah, that was
I did.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
That's a videographer.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Videographer? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Will you have a DJ or someone playing music?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, we have a we have a two piece band,
who does a DJ set?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Who organized that?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
We both did?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You both did?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I'll come on, we both picked it.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Okay. When you say pick, I do all the research
and come to you with things and then you just go, yep,
book it after I've done a Will.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
You do all this when I'm at work?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay? Is this usual for you to to not see
eye to eye or is this an unusual thing?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Depends on the topic.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
When it's cost saving stuff, yeah, I push it pretty.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Hard, and I think just pay the professional and get
it done.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
If you don't want a wedding planet to organize at
least the day, who's going to make sure everything runs
smoothly so that you two can focus on your wedding,
on exchanging vals and having fun.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Well, if I thought maybe the job of an MC
could do that as well. All they're going to do
is point the food truck in the right direction and
the band and.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It sounds to me like you've taken control of the
whole thing. Would that be fair to say, Matt, that
Nicole's actually the driver here her ideas? I think it's
not unusual. There's usually one person who's doing it, and
even if it's a shared load, someone will take on
the mental load. Would that be u, Nicole?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yes? I think so the mental loads yet, because I
care about lots of details and things.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, Matt, do you agree with that?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And so the purpose of the wedding planner would be
to share that load, would that be right?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I just have that support person that has that professional
advice so that I know that I'm speaking with someone
that's going to give me real, honest advice and has
been through it before, so I know that the day's
going to be less stressed for both of us, because
I know how stressed I get in sitch like certain situations.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
So on the day, I just want to enjoy it
with Matthe you'll not have to stress about anything and
know that if anything does go wrong or anything, someone's
taking care of it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But you're saying in your claim you want three and
a half weeks off prior to the wedding yep, and
you want a total of three hundred and thirty three dollars.
So how did you come up with that?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I just thought it's hard for both of us at
the moment, like we're both trying and work ours off
to have the best day we can have. So if
I can get a week or two weeks off before
the wedding and that covers my expenses, I'm a happy chat.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, Well, I'm going to make my decision.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Courtroom, Okay. So I've had to think about it and
I've made my decision. So Nicole and Matt, you both
met at high school and you've been together ever since.
You both engage and you're getting married January of next year.
Your budget for your wedding is forty thousand dollars? Is
(21:19):
that right?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Which it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Ye and Nicole, you've brought Matt to me today because
you believe you need a wedding planner, and Matt you
believe that you don't and you can do it yourselves.
I've made a decision, and what I say is that
you're about I would say two thirds already planned into
the wedding. Two thirds, and you've got a quote for
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three thousand dollars. So I would suggest you go back
to the wedding planner, ask her to do the final
third of your wedding planning, and I will award you
one thousand dollars towards the wedding planner for that final
part of your wedding planning. And that's my decision.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I think the outcome today has been awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I'm so excited now that we can actually like get
a wedding planner. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I think it's a fair outcome.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To being that we sort of asked two thirds of
the way and this is really going to us this
stuff in.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Like getting us across the line and knowing that someone's going.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
To be there on the day so we can have
a good time.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I think Gina gave us, or myself in particular, what
I think we needed, and the outcome we got is
probably what we were after.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I feel Gina was very fair, straight to the point,
beck to the fact.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
She was great. I feel like I did get a
fair trial today.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
She was fair, She did hear us out, and it's
good for both of us.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I definitely think the wedding plan will have a really positive.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Impact on our relationship moving forward.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Knowing that Nicole is not going to be stressed anymore
and we can just enjoy the process.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I think it'll be a good positive thing for us.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
It sounds like Nicole needed that mental rest from planning
a wedding, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Glad she got at least a part of that. I
feel as though this is settled and we shouldn't have
to talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
This has been an iHeart production.
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Weddings can create drama between the very people they're supposed
to be uniting for life. If you have an argument
with your fiance that you once settled, once and for all,
you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and
my decision is final. You better be ready to hear
my ruling. A marriage is the union of two equals
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in love. But what happens when the planning of the
wedding is unbalanced? Partners in love are not always partners
in planning. Nicole has brought her fiance matt to Judge Gina,
demanding that they hire a wedding planner for their upcoming nuptials.
Nicole is seeking three thousand dollars to hire a wedding
planner for their big day.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
My name is Nicole Shooter and I have come to
Judge Gina today because I want a wedding planner. My fiance, Matthew,
does not want a wedding planner. He is DIY saves
money wherever he can.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I want to spend the money elsewhere, like a honeymoon.
We currently don't have a budget for a honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I like to get professional to do it and get
it done and get it done properly.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
My relationship with Ni Carl has been a long one.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
We were dating for thirteen fourteen years before we got engaged.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I met Matthew when I was in year ten, Matthew
was in year eleven. He walked into the room and
it was kind of love at first sight, and we.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Are having a relatively short engagement, which is what we
both want.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want a wedding planner because I want to take
the stress off myself, a mental load. I want to
have someone there to support us on this journey. I've
never planned a wedding before, so I just need that
extra support.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I'm hoping the outcome today is that Gina realizes we
don't need a wedding planner.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
You know, were mostly of the process.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We've done most of the organizing ourselves.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So hopefully the outcomes in my favorite that we don't
need a wedding plan.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Court is now in session. Please rise for Judge Gina.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So, Nicole and Matt you're here today, and Nicole, you
have a claim against matt who is your fiance. Is
that correct?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Okay? And you're wanting to be compensated one three hundred
and thirty three dollars for three and a half weeks
off work prior to your wedding? Is that right?
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay? So I'm going to start with you, Nicole, just
because you are the applicant. How did you meet and
how did your relationship with Matt begin?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
So? We met back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I was in year ten and I at that time
decided that I wanted to be a sport teacher.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I thought I wanted to be a sports teacher.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Stick with the facts, please, okay?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Im him in year ten? Matthew was in year eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, in two thousand and eight. Correct, you met then?
And when did you start dating?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Four weeks later?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Okay? And when did you get engaged?
Speaker 6 (03:19):
October?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
October twenty two. And are you living together?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yes, we are?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And when did you move in together?
Speaker 8 (03:27):
What?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Three years ago? Can we build a house? Dreams ago?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Yeah? Three? Three? Four years ago?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay? So you dated for twelve years before you moved
in together.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Correct. We did long distance for four and a half
of those years.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So, Matt you proposed Nicole in October last year. Tell
me about the proposal. How did you do that? Did
you buy a ring? First of all?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, So I bought him in Tasmania about a month
before I met Nicolo over in La over there doing
a bit of study for a little while, and I
come over for a month.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
We went to Vegas for five days.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That could have saved you a lot of money. You know,
you could have just got married there.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I know we're stupid.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
We should off.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, could have saved you a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But go on.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
We went to what do we do?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
We went to a circus, the Michael Jackson Show that
finished at around eleven thirty or something at night, and
I knew at midnight the Bellagio Hotel fountain fire works
go off at midnight. So then I knew that if
I could get there before midnight when the water fountains
all went off, that would be a pretty good moment.
So it started going off, and then I got down
(04:39):
on one knee. I think Nicole turned around and noticed
that I wasn't standing up and looked down. She looked shocked. Yeah,
so she didn't. I don't think she was taking it
seriously for a second. She thought it was all a
joke because I joke around.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Fair bit and then what did you say.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Will you marry me? I didn't say a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And she obviously said yes because now you're planning your wedding.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Yeah, I said are you serious about twenty five? Fifty
times before I actually said right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So he wasn't convincing his response to the first twenty
five questions.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I sometimes he would come home and like pretend he
was going to do it and just like joke. So
I was like, oh my god, it's actually like.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You're amazing, Matt. That's a very mean thing.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I saw the ring and I was just like, oh
my god, is this a joke?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I just want to know what do you love
about each other? Nicole? Three words to describe Matt? What
do you love about Matt?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
His humor, he's kind and yeah, he's just he's just
cuddly and he's like a big teddy there cudly, he's
like a teddy bears.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And what about you? Matt? Three words to describe Nicole?
Why you love her?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
She follows a dreams. Yeah, I've never had the answer.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's there, you go. You never be married first time?
For everything?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
We get along, We actually do get along with.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, what other word would you use? To describe her word. Yeah, passionate, passionate. Okay,
there you go. So you love each other and this
is going to be a beautiful thing, and you put
money aside between the two of you for this wedding.
Who's paying? You're saving for the wedding? Now? Trying to
both and are you both working?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yes, we're both working?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, Nicole? What do you do?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
So I'm a hairdresser and a dance teacher.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And what about you, Matt?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I manage an aquatic center.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And do you sort of earn the same income?
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Oh, you earn a bit more than me, Yeah, a
little bit, a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Where are you getting married in Pasmania? All right? And
how many guests? Eighty two, one hundred eighty two, one
hundred guests? And how far off is your wedding?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
January twenty twenty?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What's next year?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
What's your budget for the wedding?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
There was never really a budget. There's just a figure
that it's come to and then that's how budget.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
What's it per head?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Are we charging people per head?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Are you charging possibly? Yeah, you're going to charge your
guests to come to your wedding, But.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
We don't want gifts or nothing, because we don't need anything.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You want to charge them? How much are you going
to charge them per head?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
About fifty dollars ahead?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, it's a new thing.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
It's in thing that is the normal thing in tasma.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah, absolutely, in gifts and stuff. Now you just charge
it per head at the wedding because everything's so goddamn.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Expensive, So you're thinking about fifty works ahead, okay, just.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
To cover a little portion. I mean we're putting on everything, food, wine.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Drink, fifty dollars ahead. It's only going to be five grand.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah yeah, but that covers the food, so it's just.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like a token contribution.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Yeah, okay, this is a gift in that, like, we
don't need gifts that we'd rather have a little bit
of money come off the wedding because we're obviously trying
to save it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Have you had a quote from a wedding planner or coordinate?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And what do they want to charge you?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Three thousand dollars okay?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, So tell me what you've organized so far. Have
you got your photographer yes? And you've got your.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Music yes, music's the most important.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And you've got your flowers no? So you need flowers.
Have you got your celebrant?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What is there left to do now that a wedding
planner would do.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
The color, the style?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, no, you're going to pick the color. You're going
to pick the style. Have you got bridesmaids?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yes, I've got to do brides I've got seven, stupid
I do.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But that's just one dress and you buy seven of them.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
I don't think I really want to do that. I
think we want to do different styles because we've got
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, but your wedding plan is not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
No, she's not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Have you got cars?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
No, we don't have cars.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So you need flowers, a celebrant and cars.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
We don't need cars.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
We need signs, signings like welcome to the wedding, welcome
to the bar.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And Matt, what do you say about a wedding planner.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I say it's getting to the point where it's
getting a little bit expensive and we need to probably
have the hard conversation and where to cut things.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And for me, this is the first to go.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
All right. What about the question of who should organize
the wedding? Matt, you say that Nicole should do it
not a wedding planner.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
No, no, no, no, we should both do it. But if
we're both equally doing it, you don't need a.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wedding planner, Okay, But are you equally doing it? Is
the question.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'd say, I work more, she's got more time.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, that's not what I'm asked on the laptop. No,
I'm asking you, are you equally doing it? Your answer
is no, In.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Terms of what free time we have, i'd say, ye.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No, that's not what I asked you, because then you're
just pardoning off some of them, some of the responsibility
to someone else because you think that she's got the
time to do it. So my question to you is,
are you sharing the risk on's ability of the wedding
planning equally.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
The stuff I'm allowed to do?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yes, what does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I don't think there'd be there'd be no trust there
to let me pick flowers or decorations, colors, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right like that, But it's not something you would discuss together. Go, oh,
the bridesmaids, maybe they can wear green? What color all
that sort of thing? What colors are you referring to?
Like the decor in the venue.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, whatever decorations.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Did you choose the venue together?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Ye? Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And what about all the other plans that you have
in your life, buying a car, buying a house, did
you do all those things together together?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah? We just we designed and built our house together.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, Okay? So what do you want Matt to do?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Support me?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Have done?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And I wanted to organize it, organize what?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
There's nothing to organize as you lock.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Them in, like you know when I like doing the research,
but then as for actually like making a decision, a
final decision and then have like having the back and
forth email. Can you get me a quote? Can you
get this? How much do you call?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you sharing this information with Matt?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay? And Matt, do you feel like you've been left
out of the loop at all in relation to these decisions?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
No, I feel like we've been doing it pretty well
and then and then all of a sudden, Oh, there's
a third party we have to pay to do the
two percenters?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, thanks Matt. So I'm not convinced that you equally
sharing the responsibility of this wedding planning. So, Nicole, what
sort of thing have you done so far? And what
sort of thing has Matt contributed so far. I want
to know a breakdown, all.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Right, So I've done the budget plan. So I've done
a detailed budget.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I contacted vendor caterers. Yeah, okay, not a vendor like
zin you're going to have a caravan out the front
and everyone can queue up and get a sevlaki. Not
that sort of vendor. We're kind of going to do
wood five semi okay. So this is a casual kickup
with heels affair.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's a casual cocktails.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's a casual, well planned out wedding. It's very detailed,
but casual.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, what's the dress code. Let's get the vibe here.
What's the dress code?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
The dress code is like a little bit beach here,
a little bit cocktailly, but like have a good.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Time, like bikinis with a high heel. No, is that
the sort of thing?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Absolutely not cover up?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
What's a beach in a cocktail? I have been to
the beach in High Hills, by the way, just for
the record.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
It's cut. It's like in this estate where there's the
beach down the road and it's a little bit rustick
and a bit edgy, and it's got like a Byrony
Bay kind of vibe.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And will the ceremony happen at the venue or do
guests have to move?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah, there's an open air chapel at the venue where
we will be getting having a ceremony.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So you'll have this ceremony there and then everybody kicks
on and has pizzas on the beach with high heels
and a cocktail dress.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
On at the venue and not in a bikini. Absolutely
not right?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, So you've got musicians, photographers of your organized music music.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I've been doing mood board after mood board, getting colors, designs,
making sure everything matches in what's and.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're enjoying that? Is that something that you in your element?
Do you feel that you're in your element doing this?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I enjoy the creative side and I love doing colors
and pitying and this and that.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So, you know, I think in most situations there's got
to be a driver. Would you agree with that? Someone's
got to sort of, you know, manage it. So even
if you did get a wedding plan, someone would have
to instruct her or him. Yes, would you agree with that? Yes?
Who would do that? Would you do that? Naturally?
Speaker 8 (13:51):
Nicole I'm happy to instruct, but as for like actually
like making the decision, having that support someone that is necessary.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, So if you were to instruct a wedding planner,
you would tell them who the vendors were, the florist,
the flowers, you like, what music, the type of photographer.
So you would be actually giving them the information.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Giving them the vibe and the tone.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Sounds a little bit like the horse might have bolted.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Here, no, no, because she feels in the gaps.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
And then she's going to say no, that's a stupid idea,
or that's a good idea, or you're missing this, or
that's not going to work, or that's not going to gel.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And so you want some professional feedback.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
I want the professional. I can't hear I'm a professional
at that, and someone comes to me because I'm the professional.
That's what I'm there for. I'm planning an event, or
we're planning an event for eighty two hundred people. I
need the professional to lead the way because I've never
done it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So you're about a third of the way, though it
sounds like to me when you're planning already.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Two thirds No. On the day stuff is probably what
you're concerned about.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Yeah, it's also too on the day, Like she comes
and runs the day and sets up and does everything.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
So I can just relax and I don't have to
chase up the people.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But don't you have isn't there someone at the venue
who does that?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah? No, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, you're not going to do that, Matt. So you're
the groom. You've got to be part of the wedding.
Is there not someone? Is there not a matre d
or a manager at the venue. I don't know if
you know this, but I am actually a marriage celebrant
and I do many weddings. I've done about eighty weddings
since twenty eighteen, and so I know how these things work.
(15:38):
So usually we would have someone at a venue who
coordinates things so that they don't need to worry about it.
You're not getting that support from the venue.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I don't think we are, because I emailed and there's
she was very blasse, and I was like, she's not,
Like she's not the profession here, Like at least if
I get the wedding planner, I know that she's going
to set it up. She's going to be down at
the Sarah money and she's going to know what I
actually want or we want, or I shouldn't say I
what we want, and she's going to make sure it
goes to a planned The wedding people there just for themselves.
(16:10):
They're getting their money for their venue, and they're like.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
WHOA, all right? So currently your claim is that you've
spent on one hundred and thirty three hours ye preparing
this absolutely? Yeah today over what period of time? Is
it like eight hour days or.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
A bit excess in October?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hang on, Matt, I'll get to you, Nicole. I just
want to hear, and then I'm going to get Matt's feedback.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Been October since we got engaged. The next day, I
was on the laptop looking at a venue.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so have you been sort of keeping a running
tally here of how many hours? How did you work
that out?
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
I'm averaging at least an hour a day on wedding stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
One hour a day, yep, whether it's a.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, actually pretty much is my lunch Breakay.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Wouldn't you spend an hour a day talking to a
wedding plan or I mean, she's not just going to
miraculously come up with these or the flowers or you're
gonna have to talk to it.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, I have to chat to it obviously. Yeah, we'd
have to have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm going to come over to you, Matt now, So
what do you say about the cost? Why have you
said no? Why are you leaving all this work up
to Nicole?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, half the value in a wedding planner has we've
done ourselves. That's why I think we've done three quarters
of the work.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But that's because you said no in the first place.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
No, it this was an afterthought, right, this was down the.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Journey, right that you've talked about getting a wedding planner.
I don't believe that. Somehow, I can't imagine that it
would just be a revelation. Nichole's woken up one morning gone,
oh bloody hell, this is too hard. I should have
had a wedding plan And Matt, what do you think?
And you said no.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
She had a breakdown after a couple of months of
doing this, right after booking a venue.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I can see her laughing. Somehow, I don't think it
was a breakdown, but go on, oh.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
No, it was absolutely breaking. I said, there's no walking
down this eye if I don't get a wedding planner.
I need one.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So you say it was halfway through Nichole's had a
bit of a break down, so she's thought, okay, we
should get a wedding planner, and you said, well, you've
done half or three quarters of the work. There's no
point now we're trying to keep the costs down. Is
that would that be fair to say?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay? So I want to know out of the photographer,
the music, the flowers, the venue, what have you done?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I picked and spoke to the photographer. Yeah, that was
I did.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
That's a videographer.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Videographer? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Will you have a DJ or someone playing music?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, we have a we have a two piece band,
who does a DJ set?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Who organized that?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
We both did?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You both did?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I'll come on, we both picked it.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Okay. When you say pick, I do all the research
and come to you with things and then you just go, yep,
book it after I've done a Will.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
You do all this when I'm at work?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay? Is this usual for you to to not see
eye to eye or is this an unusual thing?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Depends on the topic.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
When it's cost saving stuff, yeah, I push it pretty.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Hard, and I think just pay the professional and get
it done.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
If you don't want a wedding planet to organize at
least the day, who's going to make sure everything runs
smoothly so that you two can focus on your wedding,
on exchanging vals and having fun.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Well, if I thought maybe the job of an MC
could do that as well. All they're going to do
is point the food truck in the right direction and
the band and.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It sounds to me like you've taken control of the
whole thing. Would that be fair to say, Matt, that
Nicole's actually the driver here her ideas? I think it's
not unusual. There's usually one person who's doing it, and
even if it's a shared load, someone will take on
the mental load. Would that be u, Nicole?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yes? I think so the mental loads yet, because I
care about lots of details and things.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, Matt, do you agree with that?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And so the purpose of the wedding planner would be
to share that load, would that be right?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I just have that support person that has that professional
advice so that I know that I'm speaking with someone
that's going to give me real, honest advice and has
been through it before, so I know that the day's
going to be less stressed for both of us, because
I know how stressed I get in sitch like certain situations.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
So on the day, I just want to enjoy it
with Matthe you'll not have to stress about anything and
know that if anything does go wrong or anything, someone's
taking care of it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But you're saying in your claim you want three and
a half weeks off prior to the wedding yep, and
you want a total of three hundred and thirty three dollars.
So how did you come up with that?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I just thought it's hard for both of us at
the moment, like we're both trying and work ours off
to have the best day we can have. So if
I can get a week or two weeks off before
the wedding and that covers my expenses, I'm a happy chat.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, Well, I'm going to make my decision.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Courtroom, Okay. So I've had to think about it and
I've made my decision. So Nicole and Matt, you both
met at high school and you've been together ever since.
You both engage and you're getting married January of next year.
Your budget for your wedding is forty thousand dollars? Is
(21:19):
that right?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Which it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Ye and Nicole, you've brought Matt to me today because
you believe you need a wedding planner, and Matt you
believe that you don't and you can do it yourselves.
I've made a decision, and what I say is that
you're about I would say two thirds already planned into
the wedding. Two thirds, and you've got a quote for
(21:43):
three thousand dollars. So I would suggest you go back
to the wedding planner, ask her to do the final
third of your wedding planning, and I will award you
one thousand dollars towards the wedding planner for that final
part of your wedding planning. And that's my decision.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I think the outcome today has been awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I'm so excited now that we can actually like get
a wedding planner. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I think it's a fair outcome.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To being that we sort of asked two thirds of
the way and this is really going to us this
stuff in.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Like getting us across the line and knowing that someone's going.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
To be there on the day so we can have
a good time.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I think Gina gave us, or myself in particular, what
I think we needed, and the outcome we got is
probably what we were after.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I feel Gina was very fair, straight to the point,
beck to the fact.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
She was great. I feel like I did get a
fair trial today.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
She was fair, She did hear us out, and it's
good for both of us.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I definitely think the wedding plan will have a really positive.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Impact on our relationship moving forward.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Knowing that Nicole is not going to be stressed anymore
and we can just enjoy the process.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I think it'll be a good positive thing for us.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
It sounds like Nicole needed that mental rest from planning
a wedding, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Glad she got at least a part of that. I
feel as though this is settled and we shouldn't have
to talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
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