November 20, 2023 • 15 mins
Full Disclosure, No Exposure: Keeping The Accidental Pregnancy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Probing kids, full disclosure exposure.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Forgive me father, for I have sinned.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Interesting story this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Yeah, you can register anytime. You're completely anonymous, so you
just let us know what the story is. We will
completely cover your voice so no one will ever know
who you are. And then hopefully you can listen and
you can get some advice that may help you sort
out this dilemma.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
So I've been seeing this girl for around three months.
We're exclusive and not sleeping with anyone else. I've been
upfront from our first date. I don't want kids. I
even ended my other relationship over the whole kids thing.
She's had a history of endo and never taken the
contraceptive phil because of this. But after one month of
being together, she felt pregnant. Yep. One month of being together,
(00:46):
and that's the one thing that I didn't want to happen.
It's happened. She's in her early thirties and she wants
to keep it. She thinks this might be her only chance.
I'm so torn. I don't want kids, but I feel
like I'll be called an asshole if I don't stick around.
What if I just give her a some of money.
Maybe I'll transfer like fifty K or something. Does that
make me a better person? What's my responsibility?
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I'm very curious as to what you think about this.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
There are a couple of lines in there that just
give make me have an opinion about that person.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
But before I say what it is, tell me what
you think.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, I can't.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
I mean, it's hard to relate to him because you know,
always wanted to have kids. But if he's come out
and said I don't want kids, and he's made it
really clear at the start of relationship, and now they're
in this situation where she's saying I'm going to have
a kid, I.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Think I don't.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
I don't understand the feeling that he's got. But I
don't think he's responsible. I don't think he needs to.
If he says I don't want part of it, I
don't think he's responsible.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
But you know what causes it, Therefore, don't do it.
I mean, the whole thing about not using contraception because
of her previous medical history also gives me the creeps
just a little bit after such.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
An early time dating.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
But I will say, and I do know't do this
from my own experiences that there are a lot of
people who medical proof that they don't have any diseases. Yes,
and you can actually go and get a health check
and then present that, which is in itself just the
worst transaction when you're trying to date someone.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
But anyway, I did one one time data girl who
was allergic to latex, and so she did the same
thing and said, listen, I've just been you know, I've
been to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I do it all the time.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean, it's very responsible. It just sort of
take sucks the romance out of it for us.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
It does, and then it's also brings a level of
trust as well that you have to believe that they're
not just trying to entrap you or whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I just feel like the.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Guy is just treating this like a business transaction and
it's not like human life is not a business transaction.
You can't just throw money at it to let it
go away, because there is going to be a human
being who will want to know who you are.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
And you might want.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
To sort the problem out right now, but what happens
in twenty his time or you know, like, I just think.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
That's incredibly selfish.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
I do.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
I mean thirteen one oh sixty five.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
If you think I'm wrong, and of course I'm going
to be in support of the woman in this situation.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Is her body, her choice?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Why are you? Why? Is that? Of course?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Because I just think that, because I feel like I
know that, But I feel like he's just like so,
I mean, I'm purely basing on on what we heard,
but just so top line, and I'm caring like it's
not Yeah, it's not like he's going on really agonizing
with It's like, oh, I'll throw fifty k at it,
Maybe that'll make.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
It go away.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Ooh, what's better than saying I'm just going to go away,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, But then it's a business transaction and he's obliged.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Well, but it's a transaction that he doesn't want any
part of and he never wanted a part.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Of, I know, But throwing money about that it's not
going to Yeah, yeah, anyway, okay, thirteen one oh sixty five.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I'm very happy to be proven wrong.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Yeah, surely out of Springfield.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 9 (03:48):
Have you heard an.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I've got endo so I can't get pregnant?
Speaker 9 (03:55):
Are you sure this guy?
Speaker 10 (03:56):
I had no brain?
Speaker 6 (03:59):
No, I don't want You're the best, Geralie. The passion
is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It is a very good argument for me and letting
people think about it, Nat geral.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
He's gone for thirty one six fives.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
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Speaker 7 (04:18):
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Speaker 5 (04:21):
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Speaker 2 (04:26):
Forgive me, father, for I have sin.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
This is the story we're discussing this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
So I've been seeing this girl for around three months.
I've been upfront from our first date. I don't want kids.
I even ended my other relationship over the whole kids thing.
She's had a history of endo and never taken the
contraceptive phil because of this. But after one month of
being together, she felt pregnant and she wants to keep it.
She thinks this might be her only chance. I'm so torn.
I don't want kids, but I feel like I'll be
(04:52):
called an asshole if I don't stick around. What if
I just give her a lump sum of money? Does
that make me a better person?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
So offensive?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I thought, I know nine seven three ninety seven three
If you want on the text line and someone anonymous
come through as a person with severe ENDO who cannot
get pregnant and facing thousands upon thousands for IVF. If
he doesn't want children but expects her to take the pill,
then maybe he should get a vasectomy, which we were
talking about.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But then bless her. She's saying to this girl, whoever
she is, there's lots of red flags.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Get out.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Well, I mean he's made it helpous like that he
doesn't want to have kids. I don't understand. Like if
he's gone in and said, hey, it broke up with
my last girlfriend because she wanted kids, and I don't
want to be that person that's actually respectful.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't want that.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Except now it's not saying here, here's fifty K and
I'll get on with my life. Naomi of Parkridge, you
understand this guy.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I cannot wait to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 10 (05:41):
Oh hi, guys, you know, I actually completely agree with
him because he was completely upfront. Like if he wasn't
upfront and obviously she felt pregnant, then you know they'll
be a different kind of outcome. Yeah, but like instead
of maybe you know you're fifty K and buggering off
like yeah, maybe not, you know, if he doesn't want
to be in the child's life but still at least
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be a contact, or he's not a complete and to
the end, if that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, doesn't sound like he wants that though.
Speaker 10 (06:11):
Yeah, like I do understand that, but that's what he's
going to have to make the decision on. But also too,
she also knew that from the very guest she did
with Endo, And there's also a lot of other conditions
as well, But maybe he could have both of them,
could have taken extra caution to make it it's not
feel pregnant.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
But okay, thank you very much. Now, a lot of
people are coming through.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You really can be anonymous if you have your own
stories to tell, and you certainly do a hello.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
Hello, how are you guys?
Speaker 6 (06:41):
What happened with your daughter?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
My daughter was in a similar situation. She fell pregnant
when she was in her early mid thirties to a
casual relationship. They'd been dating for a couple of months,
but knew it wasn't anything sort of serious, or she
knew it wasn't going to end up being anything serious,
and she fell pregnant and he didn't want anything to
(07:05):
do with it. And she said, well, at my age,
I may never fell pregnant again. I may never be
in this situation again. So I'm keeping the pregnancy. And
if you don't want to be involved, that's your choice.
If you do want to be involved, that's also your choice.
But I'm keeping this pregnancy and not at all. He
(07:26):
wanted nothing to do with the pregnancy or the baby,
and she said, well, I'll keep the same email address
if he was in the focements. He said, if you
ever want to get in touch with me, that's my
email address. I've got no problems with that.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
But how old is the baby now?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Over ten?
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I wonder what she's going to tell him?
Speaker 8 (07:50):
What she said, she knows what she knows, she knows
and done. And my daughter's got lots of family support,
and yeah, my grandchild's got no problems. He doesn't seem
to be missing out on anything. There's lots of uncles
in the family.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So she kind of absolved him of any responsibility.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
And you said, okay, if you don't want it.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
It was her choice to keep the pregnancy because she
knew it wasn't a serious relationship, but she wanted to
have a child. And may I never fall pregnant again.
This was her one chance at motherhood.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And so, okay, I'm still a judging mcjudge face. Sorry,
I really am.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I just don't understand. I just feel like a child
is the ultimate responsibility.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I just do.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I mean, I get that, so do I.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
But if you don't want that responsibility, you make it
clear that you're you know, you're not interested in that responsibility,
then why why does he have to be involved with it?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Because he's he did take responsibility in creating the child
like he did. There was an act of which he
was actively involved and that has resulted in a baby.
And you may not want that in your theory, but
when that happens, you've got to step up.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Okay, we've got we've got I've got another anonymous, another anonymous, Hello,
and this is I believe we've got a man who's
got a story about this.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hello, Hello, Hey, Hey, So I've got I've got plenty
of views about this. My first view is, you know,
he he can't just throw fifty thousand dollars at somebody
and say I want nothing to do.
Speaker 11 (09:20):
With this baby. In a couple of years, he might
be like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Hang on a minute, I do want something to do
with this baby. I'm never going to be able to
have another baby. And then she might be like, sorry, mate, nope,
you're not allowed anything.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
To do with this baby. You have given me fifty
thousand dollars. You've wiped your hand to the tire, the cut.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You made a transaction. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, you know, it's not a thing you buy from
the shop, you know what I mean, Like, it's it's.
Speaker 11 (09:45):
A human being. I was told my whole entire life
that I would never have kids by.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Doctors and you know, medical staff and all that sort
of thing.
Speaker 11 (09:54):
But I still went about the right way to make
sure that the person I.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Will with that you know at each time that you know,
if there was a chance that you know that was
going to happen, there was no chance because you know,
I would always make sure I use protection, they would
have protection. If you were one hundred percent not wanting
to have kids from the moment you not wanted to
have kids, then there are ways around that.
Speaker 11 (10:19):
You know, you get your snip year.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know, if you want to cut tires with never
having kids, and you cut your tires.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, you actually literally cut cut the time.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I mean, that does Yeah, that's a pretty strong argument,
and there's there's a lot of people are beating that,
and it's true, I've got no interest.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Why have the risk?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No, but I'm not sure we actually helped anonymous. And
I hope that you are listening, and if you want
to engage in more with us, then please just email
us again and we will.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
We will keep this conversation going because I'd love to
know what happened.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
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Speaker 7 (10:52):
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Speaker 1 (11:00):
Robin and Kids, full disclosure, exposure.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Forgive me, father, for I have sinned.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Here's this morning story.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So I've been seeing this girl for around three months.
I've been upfront from our first date. I don't want kids.
I even ended my other relationship over the whole kids thing.
She's had a history of endo and never taken the
contraceptive phil because of this, But after one month of
being together, she felt pregnant and she wants to keep it.
She thinks this might be her only chance. I'm so torn.
I don't want kids, but I feel like I'll be
(11:31):
called an asshole if I don't stick around. What if
I just give her a lump sum of money? Does
that make me a better person?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Josh at an eagle bee, what's your thoughts on this? Mate?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
So I've got some interesting thoughts to this one. I'm
sort of on the fence, but also a bit more
on the guy's side. I mean straight, I don't understand
why people, you know, don't want.
Speaker 11 (11:49):
To have kids.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
But at the same time, I'm a single, full time
dad myself, and the mother is very sporadic with how
often she's in. But it would be much better for
her to just be out of the picture. You know,
it does more damage to the kid where it's sporadic. Well,
if you can have the choice of just being out altogether,
then that would be a much better option. Associate with
someone who doesn't want to be involved in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So just tell me your situation. What happened that you
ended up in this place.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
Well, it was sort of a one night stand gone
wrong at home.
Speaker 11 (12:19):
Kid.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
No, I stuck around completely, And to begin with, you know,
the mother stays stay fined and in it. But you know,
things that were quickly changed to she decide that you
wanted to go out and party and live her own life.
And you know, it's the sort of lesson less became
involved with a kid and it's obvious that she doesn't want.
Speaker 11 (12:38):
To be a part of it, but she just acts.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Like she does.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
And how old is the child now?
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Four?
Speaker 6 (12:44):
And do you have full custody?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (12:46):
I have for like three years now.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
So your experience, Josh is having someone in it because
they're supposed to be in it and don't but not
wanting to be in it is worse than someone just
actually accepting that that they're not going to be a
good parent, just stay in the hell out of it.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Yeah, it's I find it's a lot more harmful on
their children as well, because you know, I see her
once every three to six months.
Speaker 11 (13:07):
I'm lucky and the whole time.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
You know, my child does understand and she gets very
upsets when she conte her when she's not calling. She
asked about her quite often, and it's a really hard
question to answer when you can't really give them information
of why you know, Mummy's not around and what's not
and it makes it quite tough.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, Josh, well done you a. I mean that's the
point though, really, because if you weren't willing to take
that button, then that poor child could be anywhere.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
You know.
Speaker 12 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
Unfortunately, you know, she ended up having more kids and
they end up getting taken away, and yeah, you know
she's trying hard to get them back, and all of
a sudden now she is starting to show improvement. But
it's it's very hard to say where things are going
to go.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Well.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
I have high hopes for her, and I hope things
get well, but you know, the past speaks for itself
in some cases.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
You're amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You're good on you for stepping up, Josh.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Thanks Josh.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Debbie Ship switch, your daughter's in a similar situation.
Speaker 12 (14:02):
What happened, Well, she felt pregnant with the friends with
benefit situation, and she felt pregnant and she told him,
and he straight up he said no, I don't want kids.
They talked about it, said well, I do want to
keep it, and he offered her quite a few thousand
dollars to terminate, and she said no, And then I
(14:23):
guess he accepted the fact he did. He went along
to ultrasounds, and he was there when she was born,
and they co parent together and he is the best dad.
And I can guarantee you for a million dollars he
would not change things.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So he bit the bullet, did the right thing, and
then it's turned out in his favor.
Speaker 12 (14:42):
Yeah, that will be his only child. He's now with
another lady who's ten years older than him. She's adamant
she's never going to have children, so you know, they
co parent this child together just beautifully. He adores her.
His whole family adores her, and I did if we
asked him today, I mean I wouldn't, but he was
just he was adamant, a lot wrong. He was very angry.
(15:03):
He did not want her to have this child. But
she's three years old this week actually, and yeah, I
just think the child is a gift from God. And
I told him that at the time, and I think
he probably agrees with me right now.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, it's good when we hear positive sterioes dad, because
there's a lot of shockers.
Speaker 12 (15:21):
Oh, he's turned out to be the best adam and
he couldn't fold him for anything.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
That's awesome.
Speaker 12 (15:26):
Thanks Debbie, thank you, Bye bye.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
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Speaker 7 (15:30):
Now we've got to move on from this, even though
people are still going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
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Speaker 4 (15:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Forgive me father, for I have sinned.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Interesting story this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Yeah, you can register anytime. You're completely anonymous, so you
just let us know what the story is. We will
completely cover your voice so no one will ever know
who you are. And then hopefully you can listen and
you can get some advice that may help you sort
out this dilemma.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
So I've been seeing this girl for around three months.
We're exclusive and not sleeping with anyone else. I've been
upfront from our first date. I don't want kids. I
even ended my other relationship over the whole kids thing.
She's had a history of endo and never taken the
contraceptive phil because of this. But after one month of
being together, she felt pregnant. Yep. One month of being together,
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and that's the one thing that I didn't want to happen.
It's happened. She's in her early thirties and she wants
to keep it. She thinks this might be her only chance.
I'm so torn. I don't want kids, but I feel
like I'll be called an asshole if I don't stick around.
What if I just give her a some of money.
Maybe I'll transfer like fifty K or something. Does that
make me a better person? What's my responsibility?
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I'm very curious as to what you think about this.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
There are a couple of lines in there that just
give make me have an opinion about that person.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
But before I say what it is, tell me what
you think.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, I can't.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
I mean, it's hard to relate to him because you know,
always wanted to have kids. But if he's come out
and said I don't want kids, and he's made it
really clear at the start of relationship, and now they're
in this situation where she's saying I'm going to have
a kid, I.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Think I don't.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
I don't understand the feeling that he's got. But I
don't think he's responsible. I don't think he needs to.
If he says I don't want part of it, I
don't think he's responsible.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
But you know what causes it, Therefore, don't do it.
I mean, the whole thing about not using contraception because
of her previous medical history also gives me the creeps
just a little bit after such.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
An early time dating.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
But I will say, and I do know't do this
from my own experiences that there are a lot of
people who medical proof that they don't have any diseases. Yes,
and you can actually go and get a health check
and then present that, which is in itself just the
worst transaction when you're trying to date someone.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
But anyway, I did one one time data girl who
was allergic to latex, and so she did the same
thing and said, listen, I've just been you know, I've
been to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I do it all the time.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean, it's very responsible. It just sort of
take sucks the romance out of it for us.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
It does, and then it's also brings a level of
trust as well that you have to believe that they're
not just trying to entrap you or whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I just feel like the.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Guy is just treating this like a business transaction and
it's not like human life is not a business transaction.
You can't just throw money at it to let it
go away, because there is going to be a human
being who will want to know who you are.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
And you might want.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
To sort the problem out right now, but what happens
in twenty his time or you know, like, I just think.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
That's incredibly selfish.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
I do.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
I mean thirteen one oh sixty five.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
If you think I'm wrong, and of course I'm going
to be in support of the woman in this situation.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Is her body, her choice?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Why are you? Why? Is that? Of course?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Because I just think that, because I feel like I
know that, But I feel like he's just like so,
I mean, I'm purely basing on on what we heard,
but just so top line, and I'm caring like it's
not Yeah, it's not like he's going on really agonizing
with It's like, oh, I'll throw fifty k at it,
Maybe that'll make.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
It go away.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Ooh, what's better than saying I'm just going to go away,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, But then it's a business transaction and he's obliged.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Well, but it's a transaction that he doesn't want any
part of and he never wanted a part.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Of, I know, But throwing money about that it's not
going to Yeah, yeah, anyway, okay, thirteen one oh sixty five.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I'm very happy to be proven wrong.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Yeah, surely out of Springfield.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 9 (03:48):
Have you heard an.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I've got endo so I can't get pregnant?
Speaker 9 (03:55):
Are you sure this guy?
Speaker 10 (03:56):
I had no brain?
Speaker 6 (03:59):
No, I don't want You're the best, Geralie. The passion
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It is a very good argument for me and letting
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Speaker 5 (04:21):
Three Robins, full disclosure exposure.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Forgive me, father, for I have sin.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
This is the story we're discussing this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
So I've been seeing this girl for around three months.
I've been upfront from our first date. I don't want kids.
I even ended my other relationship over the whole kids thing.
She's had a history of endo and never taken the
contraceptive phil because of this. But after one month of
being together, she felt pregnant and she wants to keep it.
She thinks this might be her only chance. I'm so torn.
I don't want kids, but I feel like I'll be
(04:52):
called an asshole if I don't stick around. What if
I just give her a lump sum of money? Does
that make me a better person?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
So offensive?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I thought, I know nine seven three ninety seven three
If you want on the text line and someone anonymous
come through as a person with severe ENDO who cannot
get pregnant and facing thousands upon thousands for IVF. If
he doesn't want children but expects her to take the pill,
then maybe he should get a vasectomy, which we were
talking about.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But then bless her. She's saying to this girl, whoever
she is, there's lots of red flags.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Get out.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Well, I mean he's made it helpous like that he
doesn't want to have kids. I don't understand. Like if
he's gone in and said, hey, it broke up with
my last girlfriend because she wanted kids, and I don't
want to be that person that's actually respectful.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't want that.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Except now it's not saying here, here's fifty K and
I'll get on with my life. Naomi of Parkridge, you
understand this guy.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I cannot wait to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 10 (05:41):
Oh hi, guys, you know, I actually completely agree with
him because he was completely upfront. Like if he wasn't
upfront and obviously she felt pregnant, then you know they'll
be a different kind of outcome. Yeah, but like instead
of maybe you know you're fifty K and buggering off
like yeah, maybe not, you know, if he doesn't want
to be in the child's life but still at least
(06:02):
be a contact, or he's not a complete and to
the end, if that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, doesn't sound like he wants that though.
Speaker 10 (06:11):
Yeah, like I do understand that, but that's what he's
going to have to make the decision on. But also too,
she also knew that from the very guest she did
with Endo, And there's also a lot of other conditions
as well, But maybe he could have both of them,
could have taken extra caution to make it it's not
feel pregnant.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
But okay, thank you very much. Now, a lot of
people are coming through.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You really can be anonymous if you have your own
stories to tell, and you certainly do a hello.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
Hello, how are you guys?
Speaker 6 (06:41):
What happened with your daughter?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
My daughter was in a similar situation. She fell pregnant
when she was in her early mid thirties to a
casual relationship. They'd been dating for a couple of months,
but knew it wasn't anything sort of serious, or she
knew it wasn't going to end up being anything serious,
and she fell pregnant and he didn't want anything to
(07:05):
do with it. And she said, well, at my age,
I may never fell pregnant again. I may never be
in this situation again. So I'm keeping the pregnancy. And
if you don't want to be involved, that's your choice.
If you do want to be involved, that's also your choice.
But I'm keeping this pregnancy and not at all. He
(07:26):
wanted nothing to do with the pregnancy or the baby,
and she said, well, I'll keep the same email address
if he was in the focements. He said, if you
ever want to get in touch with me, that's my
email address. I've got no problems with that.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
But how old is the baby now?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Over ten?
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I wonder what she's going to tell him?
Speaker 8 (07:50):
What she said, she knows what she knows, she knows
and done. And my daughter's got lots of family support,
and yeah, my grandchild's got no problems. He doesn't seem
to be missing out on anything. There's lots of uncles
in the family.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So she kind of absolved him of any responsibility.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
And you said, okay, if you don't want it.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
It was her choice to keep the pregnancy because she
knew it wasn't a serious relationship, but she wanted to
have a child. And may I never fall pregnant again.
This was her one chance at motherhood.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And so, okay, I'm still a judging mcjudge face. Sorry,
I really am.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I just don't understand. I just feel like a child
is the ultimate responsibility.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I just do.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I mean, I get that, so do I.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
But if you don't want that responsibility, you make it
clear that you're you know, you're not interested in that responsibility,
then why why does he have to be involved with it?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Because he's he did take responsibility in creating the child
like he did. There was an act of which he
was actively involved and that has resulted in a baby.
And you may not want that in your theory, but
when that happens, you've got to step up.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Okay, we've got we've got I've got another anonymous, another anonymous, Hello,
and this is I believe we've got a man who's
got a story about this.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hello, Hello, Hey, Hey, So I've got I've got plenty
of views about this. My first view is, you know,
he he can't just throw fifty thousand dollars at somebody
and say I want nothing to do.
Speaker 11 (09:20):
With this baby. In a couple of years, he might
be like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Hang on a minute, I do want something to do
with this baby. I'm never going to be able to
have another baby. And then she might be like, sorry, mate, nope,
you're not allowed anything.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
To do with this baby. You have given me fifty
thousand dollars. You've wiped your hand to the tire, the cut.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You made a transaction. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, you know, it's not a thing you buy from
the shop, you know what I mean, Like, it's it's.
Speaker 11 (09:45):
A human being. I was told my whole entire life
that I would never have kids by.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Doctors and you know, medical staff and all that sort
of thing.
Speaker 11 (09:54):
But I still went about the right way to make
sure that the person I.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Will with that you know at each time that you know,
if there was a chance that you know that was
going to happen, there was no chance because you know,
I would always make sure I use protection, they would
have protection. If you were one hundred percent not wanting
to have kids from the moment you not wanted to
have kids, then there are ways around that.
Speaker 11 (10:19):
You know, you get your snip year.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know, if you want to cut tires with never
having kids, and you cut your tires.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, you actually literally cut cut the time.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I mean, that does Yeah, that's a pretty strong argument,
and there's there's a lot of people are beating that,
and it's true, I've got no interest.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Why have the risk?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No, but I'm not sure we actually helped anonymous. And
I hope that you are listening, and if you want
to engage in more with us, then please just email
us again and we will.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
We will keep this conversation going because I'd love to
know what happened.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
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and kith Kiss is ninety seven to three.
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Our full disclosure, no exposure story.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
This morning has got the phones running hot. Thirteen one
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Speaker 1 (11:00):
Robin and Kids, full disclosure, exposure.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Forgive me, father, for I have sinned.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Here's this morning story.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So I've been seeing this girl for around three months.
I've been upfront from our first date. I don't want kids.
I even ended my other relationship over the whole kids thing.
She's had a history of endo and never taken the
contraceptive phil because of this, But after one month of
being together, she felt pregnant and she wants to keep it.
She thinks this might be her only chance. I'm so torn.
I don't want kids, but I feel like I'll be
(11:31):
called an asshole if I don't stick around. What if
I just give her a lump sum of money? Does
that make me a better person?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Josh at an eagle bee, what's your thoughts on this? Mate?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
So I've got some interesting thoughts to this one. I'm
sort of on the fence, but also a bit more
on the guy's side. I mean straight, I don't understand
why people, you know, don't want.
Speaker 11 (11:49):
To have kids.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
But at the same time, I'm a single, full time
dad myself, and the mother is very sporadic with how
often she's in. But it would be much better for
her to just be out of the picture. You know,
it does more damage to the kid where it's sporadic. Well,
if you can have the choice of just being out altogether,
then that would be a much better option. Associate with
someone who doesn't want to be involved in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So just tell me your situation. What happened that you
ended up in this place.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
Well, it was sort of a one night stand gone
wrong at home.
Speaker 11 (12:19):
Kid.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
No, I stuck around completely, And to begin with, you know,
the mother stays stay fined and in it. But you know,
things that were quickly changed to she decide that you
wanted to go out and party and live her own life.
And you know, it's the sort of lesson less became
involved with a kid and it's obvious that she doesn't want.
Speaker 11 (12:38):
To be a part of it, but she just acts.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Like she does.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
And how old is the child now?
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Four?
Speaker 6 (12:44):
And do you have full custody?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (12:46):
I have for like three years now.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
So your experience, Josh is having someone in it because
they're supposed to be in it and don't but not
wanting to be in it is worse than someone just
actually accepting that that they're not going to be a
good parent, just stay in the hell out of it.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Yeah, it's I find it's a lot more harmful on
their children as well, because you know, I see her
once every three to six months.
Speaker 11 (13:07):
I'm lucky and the whole time.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
You know, my child does understand and she gets very
upsets when she conte her when she's not calling. She
asked about her quite often, and it's a really hard
question to answer when you can't really give them information
of why you know, Mummy's not around and what's not
and it makes it quite tough.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, Josh, well done you a. I mean that's the
point though, really, because if you weren't willing to take
that button, then that poor child could be anywhere.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
You know.
Speaker 12 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
Unfortunately, you know, she ended up having more kids and
they end up getting taken away, and yeah, you know
she's trying hard to get them back, and all of
a sudden now she is starting to show improvement. But
it's it's very hard to say where things are going
to go.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Well.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
I have high hopes for her, and I hope things
get well, but you know, the past speaks for itself
in some cases.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
You're amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You're good on you for stepping up, Josh.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Thanks Josh.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Debbie Ship switch, your daughter's in a similar situation.
Speaker 12 (14:02):
What happened, Well, she felt pregnant with the friends with
benefit situation, and she felt pregnant and she told him,
and he straight up he said no, I don't want kids.
They talked about it, said well, I do want to
keep it, and he offered her quite a few thousand
dollars to terminate, and she said no, And then I
(14:23):
guess he accepted the fact he did. He went along
to ultrasounds, and he was there when she was born,
and they co parent together and he is the best dad.
And I can guarantee you for a million dollars he
would not change things.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So he bit the bullet, did the right thing, and
then it's turned out in his favor.
Speaker 12 (14:42):
Yeah, that will be his only child. He's now with
another lady who's ten years older than him. She's adamant
she's never going to have children, so you know, they
co parent this child together just beautifully. He adores her.
His whole family adores her, and I did if we
asked him today, I mean I wouldn't, but he was
just he was adamant, a lot wrong. He was very angry.
(15:03):
He did not want her to have this child. But
she's three years old this week actually, and yeah, I
just think the child is a gift from God. And
I told him that at the time, and I think
he probably agrees with me right now.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, it's good when we hear positive sterioes dad, because
there's a lot of shockers.
Speaker 12 (15:21):
Oh, he's turned out to be the best adam and
he couldn't fold him for anything.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
That's awesome.
Speaker 12 (15:26):
Thanks Debbie, thank you, Bye bye.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Seven forty nine.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Now we've got to move on from this, even though
people are still going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
We want to put some more on the podcast here, guys, you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Can text us any anytime. I Forrow nine ninety seven
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