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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I heard podcasts, year more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Freeheart appe.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Robin Kidd now with Correos.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The podcast On Friday with our Confessions for Cash, we
had Sammy from Roachdale who was so brave. Her confession
was that she'd never told anyone apart from her best friend,
the real reason for her divorce. And it turns out
that her husband of fifteen years had a completely separate
family children of the same age with the same names
(00:48):
because in a fight, he'd yelled at her that they
had to name their youngest to name he wanted because
otherwise he wouldn't remember it.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
That was just next level gross that that element, like
just to be that I don't understand that man at all,
how that works that you can rationalize.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
That in the same age, same name, and then to
walk back in and just think it was all good.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So she busted him on Facebook, went and kind of
confronted him, and then he came back into her place
and was like.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What's wrong, where's my stuff? She's like, it's burnt, it's outside.
I'm not normally a fan of people burning other people's things,
but it's complete respect. Like he's just that is fine.
That's an absolutely fine reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The one thing that we're disagreeing on is that she
has then said she hasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She just told us.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We were the first people other than her best friend
that she'd ever told, so she broadcast it and has
still not told the children. And she said because she
didn't want to ruin his reputation or blow up his
reputation in their eyes, which I understand because I just said, well,
I don't see how, yeah, how does it benefit the
kids to destroy their father because.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He is not a person he has done behavior that
will impact their life moving forward. The thing I think
I struggle with this the most, and I am so
respectful of Sammy, and I will tell you that after
on Friday, I got her phone number and I rang
her because I was so concerned about her, and we
talked about her getting counseling sessions and that sort of stuff,
(02:23):
and I wasn't trying to convince her of my opinion.
But in my world and with my experience, what I
will say is be age appropriate, but be honest, because
if your kids can't trust you to tell them the truth,
and you've already got one parent who is obviously an
habitual liar. Who do they trust when they find out
(02:44):
because the other thing with Sammy is that they lived
a couple of suburbs away and her eldest children were
playing sport against each other. Yeah, this is Brisbane, man,
It's not six degrees of separation, it's two.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's going to come out. I agree, but I just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I feel like if she's trying to protect the kids
by keeping by, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How are they going to feel better knowing that their
dad's a pick?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You tell them.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's not saying you can't sugarcarat, that's not you can't.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But also then and bage appropriate, Like she was saying
that she was pregnant when she found out, So she's
got a little one, right, so you know that's saying
to a little one and I don't know how old,
but you're not going to tell them. But if there
are older kids, then how is it protecting someone who
clearly has a different moral compass to you? And what
(03:34):
are you protecting them from life? Their life is going
to be Potentially this guy has not behaved well.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I think, Yeah, I believe we were sort of similar
last week, but just really thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, you jumped out of your Corey.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's just more like the age, like I was just thirteen, Like,
she's going to find out and she's going to have emotions,
and we don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How old at the elder, We don't know how old
the kids are.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean, yeah, it's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But yeah, I think you want to tell them and
the best way to do that is if they do
it together, because you can't do it separately, because how
are you going to trust him? Yes, if they ever
see him again, like to actually be honest about what happened,
and then they get in two sides of it, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Jen, out of bourb Gary thirty one six five the
number if you want to get involved are your thoughts, Jen.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think it depends on the circumstances. However, in this one,
I think she's doing the right thing. At the end
of the day, he doesn't see them. If like if
I was in this situation and my kids came to
me and said, like, what's happened with dad? Then yeah,
definitely I would open up. But yeah, again, age matters,
(04:46):
the situation matters. But I think she's doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
She did tell us that in the extended chat Sammy,
she did say that surely that's not a part of
their lives.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
If you want to hear the whole thing, then I
highly recommend you go to our podcast because everything is
there if you've missed it. If he just tell me
this jen in your mind, if they then want to
have contact with him, do you tell them?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Then?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I think you sit down, like I would approach him
and be like, we need to be honest with them.
We need to tell the kids what happened and then
sit down with them. But until that happens, and my
opinion is he's never ever going to come back and
want to see them. If the kids want to see him,
then you know, reach out and whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But I like the idea of him having to tell them.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely would put it on him. He's
the one that messed up. He's the one that has
been a douchebag and an absolute pee, So I think
it needs to be on him to tell them and
not mum.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But you kind of want to be there. How do
you trust a lie to tell the.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Trust that's the way he reacted.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
When he came back.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Trust Yeah, yeah, thank you thirty one O sixty five's
out number. If you want to get involved, What do
you think did she? Is she doing the right thing
by protecting the kids? Inverted comments like quotations? Is she
protecting the kids or is this the wrong kind of protection?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm trying. No, no, no, I look absolutely, everyone's opinion
is totally valid. I just guess what are you protecting
them from? This is life. Life can suck, and if
you don't give them the tools to deal with their
situation as young adults, how's that going to change when
they become real adults.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But we protect our kids all the time from the news.
For example, I don't show Raffi the news because I
don't want him to know how much life sucks.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know, but he's five. Yeah, but I'm not saying
you'd tell a five year old this. I'm saying be
age appropriate, but be honest, what would it? Five year
olds like no, yeah, raph.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Could never no, but they'd be asking anyway, would.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's what we think? Thirteen six fives Julia Woodbridge, what
do you reckon? Well?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I got a little bit of a different perspective. So
I found out when I was forty five that I
had two siblings older than me. So I definitely think
Sammy's done the right thing about not dragging the dad
through the mud. But as a person that found out
they had two siblings, like I said, of the age
of forty five, I definitely think she should talk about
(07:12):
that with the kid.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Did you blame the person who kept the secret?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Both mum and dad kept the secret from us, and
absolutely we did. So there's three of us and we
have two older siblings, so it was in a marriage
before before my mum and dad. But absolutely blame them
both and kind of feel like we completely missed out
on those two people, and at the age of forty five,
we don't kind of want to have anything to do
(07:38):
with them now. But I think if we knew when
we were younger, it could have been a lot different.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's a really unique perspective. Julie, thank you. What do
you think that in one O six five is our number?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Kip, your brain's like exploding.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
There's so many secrets floating around that far out.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's full on.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I just want to Okay, let's just picture Corey dancing
for a minute and that'll come down.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
All of our experiences are different, and we you know,
we can't stop talking about this, daring songs during ad breaks,
everything I will say. In my world, when I was
under immense pressure when my kid's father suicided from his
family to tell them that he died of a heart attack,
and I rang his counselor and I said, tell me
what to do, and he said, beage appropriate, but be honest.
(08:23):
And certainly, in the ten years since that happened, and
as my children got older and more yucky things went down,
my kids knew that even in the worst moments of
their lives, I would tell them the truth.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I mean, it's yes, that's a great fair argument. It's
a fair argument.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I only know from my perspective, having broken up and
having wrapped, you know, being three and four, going why
aren't why aren't you together with mum? And there's times
there's weak moments that I have that I'm like angry,
and I can want to go, well, it's because this
and this and this, but I go, oh, you know,
it just didn't work out. You try, and it's you know,
you don't want to in any way diminish her in
(09:03):
his eyes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
No, but that's a different scenario because no one behaved
as appallingly as what Sammy's ex has done like that
is a betrayal on every level. You guys, it didn't
work out. It was a marriage breakdown. You're being honest
and you're being age appropriate.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, he was next level pig.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This bloke hard around Emily out of Thornlands. What are
your thoughts on this telling keeping the secret from the kids?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Yeah, I don't agree on keeping the fact that they've
got three other siblings from the kid. I don't see
how that is in the child's best interest. I think
the focus of your conversation is what he's done. We
all get it as adults that he's a pig. Yep,
let's move past that. That doesn't help children. The fact
(09:53):
that she can understand that he's a pig because he
behaves like this. She's an adult, so she can understand that.
Children don't understand that at their age. What they do
understand is when they have another sibling come into the world,
they are not living in a different state. They're not
(10:14):
thousands or hundreds of kilometers away from each other.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
They are living.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
In such close proximity that they are playing school sport together.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Come on, could.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
You imagine being that child versing your siblings years later,
like the bullying.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Do you know what I mean? I can't.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
That's in the kid's best interest not to know when
we all know it's likely to come out.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Thank you, Emily. Let's talk to Steve Labrador.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
What do you.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
Think definitely child's age appropriate when they should know whatnot.
I'm listening that they're playing sport, so I assume they're
a little bit older to me. If I would be
saying to sam there, he's like, give him the ultimatum.
You need to tell your kids a truth, give him
a time frame, let him explain to what he's done
(11:08):
to his own Let's say you first family.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, because this is the other thing we should say.
And this has come up on our text line for
a nine nine seven three nine seven three, what's happened
to the other family, Like potentially there's a whole other
group of kids and we don't know anything about them.
Neither did Sammy, and perhaps they need they don't know either. Well, yeah,
Candy of Ripley, what do.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
You think I think she should absolutely tell the kids
if they're eight years or above, tell them. She shouldn't
paint him out to be this nice guy when he's
an absolute monster, like the kids will understand, like, why
should he get away with it? I'm ropable Hutlasian.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know from personal experience though, don't you, Candy.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Yeah, well, my kids were nine eleven and fourteen, and
the year that their dad left me, I told them.
I told them everything, and he painted me out to
be the liar. But the kids have chosen to stay
on my side and have barely anything to do with him,
and that's not out of spite. That's just me telling
them the truth.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And what was the truth. Was it based on something
like a big lie like this or was it like cheating?
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Yeah, he cheated on me but denied it and made
me out to be the bad person. But yeah, the
kids should definitely know. They they should start now to
understand and be able to ask the questions and her
best be able to answer them now. And he shouldn't
even be given the opportunity to paint her out to
be the bad guy and all of this. He just
needs to stay away out of it.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more because the ages would be
pretty similar. I reckon like nine eleven.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
And something like that as a young one, but then
if you tell the older one howd he keep the
secret from the younger one until they're ready because the
older ones, older siblings, they love telling a story of
the kids, the other kids.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
But also their siblings, and they have their own relationship
and they will talk a lot amongst themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Exactly. Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Keep is trying to work out if he's changing his mind,
and Corey is just agreeing with everyone because you're so nice.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean, because really valid opinion from that, But
I still understand why Sam's. Sam's mindset is like, does
this help my kids to think that their dad's a monster?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I did, but it's just at the time it's probably right,
but down the track now it's not. And that's that's
why I'm now on that opinion.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Now you switched, it's on my line over here.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You're like that
I heard podcasts, year more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Freeheart appe.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Robin Kidd now with Correos.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The podcast On Friday with our Confessions for Cash, we
had Sammy from Roachdale who was so brave. Her confession
was that she'd never told anyone apart from her best friend,
the real reason for her divorce. And it turns out
that her husband of fifteen years had a completely separate
family children of the same age with the same names
(00:48):
because in a fight, he'd yelled at her that they
had to name their youngest to name he wanted because
otherwise he wouldn't remember it.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
That was just next level gross that that element, like
just to be that I don't understand that man at all,
how that works that you can rationalize.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
That in the same age, same name, and then to
walk back in and just think it was all good.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So she busted him on Facebook, went and kind of
confronted him, and then he came back into her place
and was like.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What's wrong, where's my stuff? She's like, it's burnt, it's outside.
I'm not normally a fan of people burning other people's things,
but it's complete respect. Like he's just that is fine.
That's an absolutely fine reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The one thing that we're disagreeing on is that she
has then said she hasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She just told us.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We were the first people other than her best friend
that she'd ever told, so she broadcast it and has
still not told the children. And she said because she
didn't want to ruin his reputation or blow up his
reputation in their eyes, which I understand because I just said, well,
I don't see how, yeah, how does it benefit the
kids to destroy their father because.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He is not a person he has done behavior that
will impact their life moving forward. The thing I think
I struggle with this the most, and I am so
respectful of Sammy, and I will tell you that after
on Friday, I got her phone number and I rang
her because I was so concerned about her, and we
talked about her getting counseling sessions and that sort of stuff,
(02:23):
and I wasn't trying to convince her of my opinion.
But in my world and with my experience, what I
will say is be age appropriate, but be honest, because
if your kids can't trust you to tell them the truth,
and you've already got one parent who is obviously an
habitual liar. Who do they trust when they find out
(02:44):
because the other thing with Sammy is that they lived
a couple of suburbs away and her eldest children were
playing sport against each other. Yeah, this is Brisbane, man,
It's not six degrees of separation, it's two.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's going to come out. I agree, but I just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I feel like if she's trying to protect the kids
by keeping by, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How are they going to feel better knowing that their
dad's a pick?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You tell them.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's not saying you can't sugarcarat, that's not you can't.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But also then and bage appropriate, Like she was saying
that she was pregnant when she found out, So she's
got a little one, right, so you know that's saying
to a little one and I don't know how old,
but you're not going to tell them. But if there
are older kids, then how is it protecting someone who
clearly has a different moral compass to you? And what
(03:34):
are you protecting them from life? Their life is going
to be Potentially this guy has not behaved well.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I think, Yeah, I believe we were sort of similar
last week, but just really thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, you jumped out of your Corey.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's just more like the age, like I was just thirteen, Like,
she's going to find out and she's going to have emotions,
and we don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How old at the elder, We don't know how old
the kids are.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I mean, yeah, it's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But yeah, I think you want to tell them and
the best way to do that is if they do
it together, because you can't do it separately, because how
are you going to trust him? Yes, if they ever
see him again, like to actually be honest about what happened,
and then they get in two sides of it, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Jen, out of bourb Gary thirty one six five the
number if you want to get involved are your thoughts, Jen.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think it depends on the circumstances. However, in this one,
I think she's doing the right thing. At the end
of the day, he doesn't see them. If like if
I was in this situation and my kids came to
me and said, like, what's happened with dad? Then yeah,
definitely I would open up. But yeah, again, age matters,
(04:46):
the situation matters. But I think she's doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
She did tell us that in the extended chat Sammy,
she did say that surely that's not a part of
their lives.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
If you want to hear the whole thing, then I
highly recommend you go to our podcast because everything is
there if you've missed it. If he just tell me
this jen in your mind, if they then want to
have contact with him, do you tell them?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Then?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I think you sit down, like I would approach him
and be like, we need to be honest with them.
We need to tell the kids what happened and then
sit down with them. But until that happens, and my
opinion is he's never ever going to come back and
want to see them. If the kids want to see him,
then you know, reach out and whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But I like the idea of him having to tell them.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely would put it on him. He's
the one that messed up. He's the one that has
been a douchebag and an absolute pee, So I think
it needs to be on him to tell them and
not mum.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But you kind of want to be there. How do
you trust a lie to tell the.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Trust that's the way he reacted.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
When he came back.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Trust Yeah, yeah, thank you thirty one O sixty five's
out number. If you want to get involved, What do
you think did she? Is she doing the right thing
by protecting the kids? Inverted comments like quotations? Is she
protecting the kids or is this the wrong kind of protection?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm trying. No, no, no, I look absolutely, everyone's opinion
is totally valid. I just guess what are you protecting
them from? This is life. Life can suck, and if
you don't give them the tools to deal with their
situation as young adults, how's that going to change when
they become real adults.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But we protect our kids all the time from the news.
For example, I don't show Raffi the news because I
don't want him to know how much life sucks.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know, but he's five. Yeah, but I'm not saying
you'd tell a five year old this. I'm saying be
age appropriate, but be honest, what would it? Five year
olds like no, yeah, raph.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Could never no, but they'd be asking anyway, would.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's what we think? Thirteen six fives Julia Woodbridge, what
do you reckon? Well?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I got a little bit of a different perspective. So
I found out when I was forty five that I
had two siblings older than me. So I definitely think
Sammy's done the right thing about not dragging the dad
through the mud. But as a person that found out
they had two siblings, like I said, of the age
of forty five, I definitely think she should talk about
(07:12):
that with the kid.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Did you blame the person who kept the secret?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Both mum and dad kept the secret from us, and
absolutely we did. So there's three of us and we
have two older siblings, so it was in a marriage
before before my mum and dad. But absolutely blame them
both and kind of feel like we completely missed out
on those two people, and at the age of forty five,
we don't kind of want to have anything to do
(07:38):
with them now. But I think if we knew when
we were younger, it could have been a lot different.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's a really unique perspective. Julie, thank you. What do
you think that in one O six five is our number?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Kip, your brain's like exploding.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
There's so many secrets floating around that far out.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's full on.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I just want to Okay, let's just picture Corey dancing
for a minute and that'll come down.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
All of our experiences are different, and we you know,
we can't stop talking about this, daring songs during ad breaks,
everything I will say. In my world, when I was
under immense pressure when my kid's father suicided from his
family to tell them that he died of a heart attack,
and I rang his counselor and I said, tell me
what to do, and he said, beage appropriate, but be honest.
(08:23):
And certainly, in the ten years since that happened, and
as my children got older and more yucky things went down,
my kids knew that even in the worst moments of
their lives, I would tell them the truth.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I mean, it's yes, that's a great fair argument. It's
a fair argument.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I only know from my perspective, having broken up and
having wrapped, you know, being three and four, going why
aren't why aren't you together with mum? And there's times
there's weak moments that I have that I'm like angry,
and I can want to go, well, it's because this
and this and this, but I go, oh, you know,
it just didn't work out. You try, and it's you know,
you don't want to in any way diminish her in
(09:03):
his eyes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
No, but that's a different scenario because no one behaved
as appallingly as what Sammy's ex has done like that
is a betrayal on every level. You guys, it didn't
work out. It was a marriage breakdown. You're being honest
and you're being age appropriate.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, he was next level pig.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This bloke hard around Emily out of Thornlands. What are
your thoughts on this telling keeping the secret from the kids?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Yeah, I don't agree on keeping the fact that they've
got three other siblings from the kid. I don't see
how that is in the child's best interest. I think
the focus of your conversation is what he's done. We
all get it as adults that he's a pig. Yep,
let's move past that. That doesn't help children. The fact
(09:53):
that she can understand that he's a pig because he
behaves like this. She's an adult, so she can understand that.
Children don't understand that at their age. What they do
understand is when they have another sibling come into the world,
they are not living in a different state. They're not
(10:14):
thousands or hundreds of kilometers away from each other.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
They are living.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
In such close proximity that they are playing school sport together.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Come on, could.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
You imagine being that child versing your siblings years later,
like the bullying.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Do you know what I mean? I can't.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
That's in the kid's best interest not to know when
we all know it's likely to come out.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Thank you, Emily. Let's talk to Steve Labrador.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
What do you.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
Think definitely child's age appropriate when they should know whatnot.
I'm listening that they're playing sport, so I assume they're
a little bit older to me. If I would be
saying to sam there, he's like, give him the ultimatum.
You need to tell your kids a truth, give him
a time frame, let him explain to what he's done
(11:08):
to his own Let's say you first family.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, because this is the other thing we should say.
And this has come up on our text line for
a nine nine seven three nine seven three, what's happened
to the other family, Like potentially there's a whole other
group of kids and we don't know anything about them.
Neither did Sammy, and perhaps they need they don't know either. Well, yeah,
Candy of Ripley, what do.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
You think I think she should absolutely tell the kids
if they're eight years or above, tell them. She shouldn't
paint him out to be this nice guy when he's
an absolute monster, like the kids will understand, like, why
should he get away with it? I'm ropable Hutlasian.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know from personal experience though, don't you, Candy.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Yeah, well, my kids were nine eleven and fourteen, and
the year that their dad left me, I told them.
I told them everything, and he painted me out to
be the liar. But the kids have chosen to stay
on my side and have barely anything to do with him,
and that's not out of spite. That's just me telling
them the truth.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And what was the truth. Was it based on something
like a big lie like this or was it like cheating?
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Yeah, he cheated on me but denied it and made
me out to be the bad person. But yeah, the
kids should definitely know. They they should start now to
understand and be able to ask the questions and her
best be able to answer them now. And he shouldn't
even be given the opportunity to paint her out to
be the bad guy and all of this. He just
needs to stay away out of it.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more because the ages would be
pretty similar. I reckon like nine eleven.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
And something like that as a young one, but then
if you tell the older one howd he keep the
secret from the younger one until they're ready because the
older ones, older siblings, they love telling a story of
the kids, the other kids.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
But also their siblings, and they have their own relationship
and they will talk a lot amongst themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Exactly. Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Keep is trying to work out if he's changing his mind,
and Corey is just agreeing with everyone because you're so nice.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean, because really valid opinion from that, But
I still understand why Sam's. Sam's mindset is like, does
this help my kids to think that their dad's a monster?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I did, but it's just at the time it's probably right,
but down the track now it's not. And that's that's
why I'm now on that opinion.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Now you switched, it's on my line over here.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You're like that
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