September 13, 2023 • 13 mins
Full Disclosure, No Exposure: Dating Someone Who's Been To Prison
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Robin Terry and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Robin Terry and Gibbs full disclosure, no.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Exposure, forgive me father for ab sin.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We haven't done one of these for a while.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I know in the Old Man we're starting with an
absolute doozy and if you want to get involved thirteen
one O six five the I have a listened to this.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Yes, this is a story that somebody caught. They registered online,
so we've been able to scramble their voice. You won't
ever be identified if you do want to tell us
your story at kiss ninety seven to three dot com
dot au.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay, so I've been online daily for twelve months and
I've met some really lovely guys that I've had coffies
with and chatted to, but there's just no chemistry. I've
also met a couple of crazies, and finally I met this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Guy that I really really like.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We came off line.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We met in person, first.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Date, second date, everything was great, and then he said
to me, had to tell me something that might change everything.
So we went out for dinner and he told me
that he's been in jail and that he's been done
for fraud and that he pays time and he's now
a change man, and so if I wanted to contact
his ex partner, that he'd be open to that and
to show that he's a legitimate guy. Great, But the
(01:10):
problem is, I just don't know that I could date
someone who's been in jail.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Thirteen one sixty five is our number.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The similar thing happened to me, obviously not that far advanced,
because when I was on the apps and I was
chatting to this guy and I thought, you know, he's
really lovely. He was from overseas, yes, and then it
took him a while, and we must have been going
backwards and forwards for probably a week a week and
a half, which turn online dating is quite a fair
(01:38):
time when you're communicating. Yes, And he said that he
had been in jail. And I'm a true believer that
people change. I genuinely believe that you know, if you
particularly if you do really awful bad things, and certainly
in my life I've experienced this before for myself, is
that you then evolve and you realize you'll never do
that stuff again. And so I kind of went The
(02:02):
problem was that when I then wanted to talk to
him about it, he became really blase that it wasn't
such a big deal. And you know, even though he
was put away for about five years, you know it
was because of other people. And then I went nut.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Five years sounds like a big deal in Australia.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And yeah, and being from overseas is like, yeah, but
if I was terrible then they would have deported me.
And I'm like, yeah, but you're not owning it. And
that's I think the mistake you actually seriously for me anyway,
if you make mistakes, you have to own them and say,
you know, this is what I did, and I'm really sorry, bobblah.
So I believe that I would date someone. Yeah he'd
been inside.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But given the opportunity, you didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No because of that reason. But if someone was truly honest,
I mean I don't know if. But also hang on,
if their crime was.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, the crime matters, I.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Know, because I'm just I'm talking about a white collar crime, right,
but what if it was murder.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Or And the problem with fraud WI wash our persons
talking about here. The problem with fraud is it's kind
of lying, it's professional lying, dishonest. So then do you
trust that person if they're really good made, so maybe
they're not great at.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't trust anyone and online dating, so yeah, I
don't know, man. Thirteen one o six five would you
you wouldn't?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I was just trying to think if Naomi, if i'd
found out after a few dates that she'd been it's
been actual to prison, right, Yeah, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'd be Okay, I think i'd be all right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Because you're putting the person you really love.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yes, yeah, so yeah, I'm down the track now, so yeah,
so yeah, I think it's all right.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Thirteen one oh sixty five Would you date someone who's
been to jail? Emily of the Sunny Coast?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You have?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Hi, guys, good morning.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
I did it for three years.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Okay, how long did you know right from the start?
How long did it take for you to find out
that he'd.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Been in jail?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
About a week okay?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, Well he owned it, totally told me everything that
had happened, why he had gone, and basically says, well,
it's up to you.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
I understand if you don't want to go out, And
you know, I thought about it for a couple of
days and I thought, well, he's owned it. He told
me right up running exactly what he went in for.
So he's done his time.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay. So was it Did the crime make a difference
like if Yeah, in terms of what he did and
whether you would have stayed around? He no, okay, So
it didn't matter to you if it had been a
violent crime or a white collar crime. It didn't matter.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
No, because he owned it, and because he told me
right at the very beginning in detail.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I thought, well, you know, are you still with him?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No?
Speaker 7 (05:05):
No, we work together for three years.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Okay, Well, well yeah, go a while ago and you
don't regret it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Great, okay, thank you Emi, very good Matt.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Matt of Redland Bay.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You are the guy.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Very long and a hard story.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So so you've been you been inside, Matt, I have.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Indeed, okay, and it's an experience that I would never
wish upon anyone.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
How long did you go away for?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I served one year, which was a year too long.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Can you tell us how you're comfortable saying what for?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I was a severe drug addict four or five years
and it got to the point I went into a
drug and juice psychosis and I was attacking random people,
random people.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Wow, Matt, so how has that impacted your life?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, when I got out, I was looked down at,
I was judged.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I was.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Always a sort of judge as the worst, as junkie.
And yes, I went into a relationship a little while
after I got out and it turned into a control
in abusive relationship on the other side because they thought
they could dictating control my life because of my path.
(06:41):
And yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Do you feel like you've got to tell people straight away,
particularly when you're dating. Do you feel like you've got
to tell them straight away that you've been inside?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I think, honestly is key, especially if you want something
to go far.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Wow. Okay, So how do you feel about what you
did now?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Like, I'm ashamed of what I did, but I'm not
that person. I'm now proudly for you, Queen.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Nice Right there you go. What difference? And I mean,
even that question is so judgmental of me. I mean
it really is, but that I guess because that comes
with all these big connotations. Are you in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I am Yes at the moment. I've been with an
amazing man for the last two.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Months and your life's turned around.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Massively, like it was at a point when all this happened.
I couldn't hold the a job, I couldn't hold down
accommodation or anything. And now I'm in a full time,
stable job. I have a solid, full long term relationship
and solid in living arrangements. Everything's just changed for the best.
Unfortunately this had to happen to progress change my eye.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Matt. We can hear it in your voice. Very brave
of you, actually, so thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Thanks for sharing mate. A good reminder that today is
are you okay days. If you've got someone that you know,
that someone that's in your mind and do you think
you need to ask the question, then today's the day
to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And of course Lifelines phone number. I know this off
by heart. Thirteen eleven fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, Jessica has called the show.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
With Jessica of Logan. You are engaged to someone who
is currently in prison. Is that right?
Speaker 8 (08:19):
That's correct?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, what's the timeline, Jessica? Where you did you meet
him before jail?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 8 (08:25):
I met him. He'd been in about twelve years already
before I met him, and we met through a mutual friend.
So yeah, we've been here about three years.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Okay, So he's done a pretty serious crime if he
how long is he away for life? Life?
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Now that what does that actually mean?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
In that kind of means, they usually have a bottom sentence,
which is twenty years for him, and then the top
is life. So even if you got out on parole,
he's on parole for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Right, what did he do with Jessica? Well, he did
them he murdered someone.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yes, okay, so you've met him while he's in jail
for murder.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It sounds it sounds mad, it sounds bad. What what
were you?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Why? What what am I thinking?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
I think it probably is an indicator of how bad
online dating is. Robin you can probably addest to it.
But just a lull in quality men. I was introduced
to him, we started chatting three letters and he's just
an amazing man. And I guess I just wanted to
put it out there that, like Matt was just saying,
the people aren't their crime a stupid decision. It could
(09:37):
be a stupid decision that was made. It was a circumstance,
whatever it was, it's not ideal. And my partner has
owned it. He's I've read through all the transcripts of everything.
Nothing is off limits. I was questions and that sort
of thing. And he's a model prisoner, as bad as
that is to say, but that's the key I think
is that there's accountability and he accepts that he has
(09:59):
to okay penalty.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I've got to ask, will you feel safe with him?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How do you know?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Mate?
Speaker 8 (10:08):
You just know?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You just know, like what potentially when will you ever
be together? Living together?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Hopefully about six.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Years time, six years from now? And you said at
the start, you're engaged, when are you going to get married?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
Well, we're trying to whilst he's in That's a long
and arduous administrative process and we're not particularly hopeful that
will go through, so we just have to wait. I
guess the old hurry up and wait.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
There's so many things that you would not have been
able to experience as a couple because he's on the raid,
and you want to marry him before you actually test those.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Waders, no doubt, no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
How come you're so definite?
Speaker 8 (10:49):
I guess it's I've been married before, so I kind
of get that vibe. It's a gut feeling. It's the
love that you feel and the commitment, and I know,
trust me, I've heard the horror stories. I've been warned
a million times, but it's just not there. He never
asked for money, So there's always signs, you know, have
they're always hitting you up for money? Or are they
talking to you a bad or Friday comes around when
(11:10):
when buyout to do and they hitting out for cash.
Like those sorts of things are red flags and you
abuse all that sort of stuff, But none of that exists.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Have you ever touched him?
Speaker 8 (11:18):
We've kissed, but that's it, And we might have slipped
in a bit of the old snog once or twice.
But yeah, last two years, we haven't been able to
kiss from COVID. We've went last weekend. It was the
first weekend we've been able to kiss.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Wow, I never knew that was it. I never knew
that was COVID effective. So you weren't allowed to touch.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I can really understand why he wants to be engaged
and married, you know what, mate, I'm all for gut instincts,
good luck, good luck love, and I do believe people
have got it. But murder is a big thing to
get up.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
It is. Yeah, one hundred percent, I agree. Do you
need to kiss at the beginning. I've got one yet,
and he's got kids as well.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And your family are okay.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Well no, not all of them, but many have been
accepting that it's my decision and there's no concerns about
my safety in that respect due to the circumstances surrounding
what he did. So okay, yeah, I in mind. People,
Well you know you are.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Helping do that, and you know we are all going
to be judging what you're saying and thinking about our
own circumstances. But I'm really really grateful you called through.
Thank you so much, no worries, hope for help. Yeah, absolutely,
And as I said, good luck mates, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I think you've helped a lot of men listening too.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Who now next time they have an argument with their wife,
So listen, Jessica gave murder.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You can leave me alone for leaving my shoes by
the door.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
All power to you boys, he's trying.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And no, I would not date someone who'd been inside
for murder.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
No, you're out, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Wake up with Robert Terry and Kip
You're listening to the Robin Terry and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Robin Terry and Gibbs full disclosure, no.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Exposure, forgive me father for ab sin.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We haven't done one of these for a while.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I know in the Old Man we're starting with an
absolute doozy and if you want to get involved thirteen
one O six five the I have a listened to this.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Yes, this is a story that somebody caught. They registered online,
so we've been able to scramble their voice. You won't
ever be identified if you do want to tell us
your story at kiss ninety seven to three dot com
dot au.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay, so I've been online daily for twelve months and
I've met some really lovely guys that I've had coffies
with and chatted to, but there's just no chemistry. I've
also met a couple of crazies, and finally I met this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Guy that I really really like.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We came off line.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We met in person, first.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Date, second date, everything was great, and then he said
to me, had to tell me something that might change everything.
So we went out for dinner and he told me
that he's been in jail and that he's been done
for fraud and that he pays time and he's now
a change man, and so if I wanted to contact
his ex partner, that he'd be open to that and
to show that he's a legitimate guy. Great, But the
(01:10):
problem is, I just don't know that I could date
someone who's been in jail.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Thirteen one sixty five is our number.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
The similar thing happened to me, obviously not that far advanced,
because when I was on the apps and I was
chatting to this guy and I thought, you know, he's
really lovely. He was from overseas, yes, and then it
took him a while, and we must have been going
backwards and forwards for probably a week a week and
a half, which turn online dating is quite a fair
(01:38):
time when you're communicating. Yes, And he said that he
had been in jail. And I'm a true believer that
people change. I genuinely believe that you know, if you
particularly if you do really awful bad things, and certainly
in my life I've experienced this before for myself, is
that you then evolve and you realize you'll never do
that stuff again. And so I kind of went The
(02:02):
problem was that when I then wanted to talk to
him about it, he became really blase that it wasn't
such a big deal. And you know, even though he
was put away for about five years, you know it
was because of other people. And then I went nut.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Five years sounds like a big deal in Australia.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And yeah, and being from overseas is like, yeah, but
if I was terrible then they would have deported me.
And I'm like, yeah, but you're not owning it. And
that's I think the mistake you actually seriously for me anyway,
if you make mistakes, you have to own them and say,
you know, this is what I did, and I'm really sorry, bobblah.
So I believe that I would date someone. Yeah he'd
been inside.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But given the opportunity, you didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No because of that reason. But if someone was truly honest,
I mean I don't know if. But also hang on,
if their crime was.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, the crime matters, I.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Know, because I'm just I'm talking about a white collar crime, right,
but what if it was murder.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Or And the problem with fraud WI wash our persons
talking about here. The problem with fraud is it's kind
of lying, it's professional lying, dishonest. So then do you
trust that person if they're really good made, so maybe
they're not great at.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't trust anyone and online dating, so yeah, I
don't know, man. Thirteen one o six five would you
you wouldn't?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I was just trying to think if Naomi, if i'd
found out after a few dates that she'd been it's
been actual to prison, right, Yeah, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'd be Okay, I think i'd be all right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Because you're putting the person you really love.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yes, yeah, so yeah, I'm down the track now, so yeah,
so yeah, I think it's all right.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Thirteen one oh sixty five Would you date someone who's
been to jail? Emily of the Sunny Coast?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You have?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Hi, guys, good morning.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
I did it for three years.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Okay, how long did you know right from the start?
How long did it take for you to find out
that he'd.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Been in jail?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
About a week okay?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, Well he owned it, totally told me everything that
had happened, why he had gone, and basically says, well,
it's up to you.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
I understand if you don't want to go out, And
you know, I thought about it for a couple of
days and I thought, well, he's owned it. He told
me right up running exactly what he went in for.
So he's done his time.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay. So was it Did the crime make a difference
like if Yeah, in terms of what he did and
whether you would have stayed around? He no, okay, So
it didn't matter to you if it had been a
violent crime or a white collar crime. It didn't matter.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
No, because he owned it, and because he told me
right at the very beginning in detail.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I thought, well, you know, are you still with him?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No?
Speaker 7 (05:05):
No, we work together for three years.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Okay, Well, well yeah, go a while ago and you
don't regret it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Great, okay, thank you Emi, very good Matt.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Matt of Redland Bay.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You are the guy.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Very long and a hard story.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So so you've been you been inside, Matt, I have.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Indeed, okay, and it's an experience that I would never
wish upon anyone.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
How long did you go away for?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I served one year, which was a year too long.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Can you tell us how you're comfortable saying what for?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I was a severe drug addict four or five years
and it got to the point I went into a
drug and juice psychosis and I was attacking random people,
random people.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Wow, Matt, so how has that impacted your life?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, when I got out, I was looked down at,
I was judged.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I was.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Always a sort of judge as the worst, as junkie.
And yes, I went into a relationship a little while
after I got out and it turned into a control
in abusive relationship on the other side because they thought
they could dictating control my life because of my path.
(06:41):
And yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Do you feel like you've got to tell people straight away,
particularly when you're dating. Do you feel like you've got
to tell them straight away that you've been inside?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I think, honestly is key, especially if you want something
to go far.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Wow. Okay, So how do you feel about what you
did now?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Like, I'm ashamed of what I did, but I'm not
that person. I'm now proudly for you, Queen.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Nice Right there you go. What difference? And I mean,
even that question is so judgmental of me. I mean
it really is, but that I guess because that comes
with all these big connotations. Are you in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I am Yes at the moment. I've been with an
amazing man for the last two.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Months and your life's turned around.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Massively, like it was at a point when all this happened.
I couldn't hold the a job, I couldn't hold down
accommodation or anything. And now I'm in a full time,
stable job. I have a solid, full long term relationship
and solid in living arrangements. Everything's just changed for the best.
Unfortunately this had to happen to progress change my eye.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Matt. We can hear it in your voice. Very brave
of you, actually, so thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Thanks for sharing mate. A good reminder that today is
are you okay days. If you've got someone that you know,
that someone that's in your mind and do you think
you need to ask the question, then today's the day
to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And of course Lifelines phone number. I know this off
by heart. Thirteen eleven fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, Jessica has called the show.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
With Jessica of Logan. You are engaged to someone who
is currently in prison. Is that right?
Speaker 8 (08:19):
That's correct?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, what's the timeline, Jessica? Where you did you meet
him before jail?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 8 (08:25):
I met him. He'd been in about twelve years already
before I met him, and we met through a mutual friend.
So yeah, we've been here about three years.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Okay, So he's done a pretty serious crime if he
how long is he away for life? Life?
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Now that what does that actually mean?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
In that kind of means, they usually have a bottom sentence,
which is twenty years for him, and then the top
is life. So even if you got out on parole,
he's on parole for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Right, what did he do with Jessica? Well, he did
them he murdered someone.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yes, okay, so you've met him while he's in jail
for murder.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It sounds it sounds mad, it sounds bad. What what
were you?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Why? What what am I thinking?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
I think it probably is an indicator of how bad
online dating is. Robin you can probably addest to it.
But just a lull in quality men. I was introduced
to him, we started chatting three letters and he's just
an amazing man. And I guess I just wanted to
put it out there that, like Matt was just saying,
the people aren't their crime a stupid decision. It could
(09:37):
be a stupid decision that was made. It was a circumstance,
whatever it was, it's not ideal. And my partner has
owned it. He's I've read through all the transcripts of everything.
Nothing is off limits. I was questions and that sort
of thing. And he's a model prisoner, as bad as
that is to say, but that's the key I think
is that there's accountability and he accepts that he has
(09:59):
to okay penalty.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I've got to ask, will you feel safe with him?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How do you know?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Mate?
Speaker 8 (10:08):
You just know?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You just know, like what potentially when will you ever
be together? Living together?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Hopefully about six.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Years time, six years from now? And you said at
the start, you're engaged, when are you going to get married?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
Well, we're trying to whilst he's in That's a long
and arduous administrative process and we're not particularly hopeful that
will go through, so we just have to wait. I
guess the old hurry up and wait.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
There's so many things that you would not have been
able to experience as a couple because he's on the raid,
and you want to marry him before you actually test those.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Waders, no doubt, no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
How come you're so definite?
Speaker 8 (10:49):
I guess it's I've been married before, so I kind
of get that vibe. It's a gut feeling. It's the
love that you feel and the commitment, and I know,
trust me, I've heard the horror stories. I've been warned
a million times, but it's just not there. He never
asked for money, So there's always signs, you know, have
they're always hitting you up for money? Or are they
talking to you a bad or Friday comes around when
(11:10):
when buyout to do and they hitting out for cash.
Like those sorts of things are red flags and you
abuse all that sort of stuff, But none of that exists.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Have you ever touched him?
Speaker 8 (11:18):
We've kissed, but that's it, And we might have slipped
in a bit of the old snog once or twice.
But yeah, last two years, we haven't been able to
kiss from COVID. We've went last weekend. It was the
first weekend we've been able to kiss.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Wow, I never knew that was it. I never knew
that was COVID effective. So you weren't allowed to touch.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I can really understand why he wants to be engaged
and married, you know what, mate, I'm all for gut instincts,
good luck, good luck love, and I do believe people
have got it. But murder is a big thing to
get up.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
It is. Yeah, one hundred percent, I agree. Do you
need to kiss at the beginning. I've got one yet,
and he's got kids as well.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And your family are okay.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Well no, not all of them, but many have been
accepting that it's my decision and there's no concerns about
my safety in that respect due to the circumstances surrounding
what he did. So okay, yeah, I in mind. People,
Well you know you are.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Helping do that, and you know we are all going
to be judging what you're saying and thinking about our
own circumstances. But I'm really really grateful you called through.
Thank you so much, no worries, hope for help. Yeah, absolutely,
And as I said, good luck mates, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I think you've helped a lot of men listening too.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Who now next time they have an argument with their wife,
So listen, Jessica gave murder.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You can leave me alone for leaving my shoes by
the door.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
All power to you boys, he's trying.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And no, I would not date someone who'd been inside
for murder.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
No, you're out, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
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